1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: I Am all in. 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 2: You. I Am all in with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am All in Podcast. One 4 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: on one interview with Melaura Harden. This is brought to 5 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: you by One eleven Productions, iHeartRadio, iHeart Media, iHeart Podcasts, 6 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: and Melaura Harden portrayed Carolyn Bates. Carolyn was set up 7 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: with Christopher by Emily and Richard at Friday Night Dinner. 8 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something about Malaura Harden. Who she is. 9 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: She's an actress best known for roles as Jan Levinson 10 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: on NBC's The Office, Trudy Monk on The USA Networks Monk, 11 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: and Tammy Cashman on Amazon Prime Videos Transparent, which she 12 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: received a Primetime Emmy Award nomination. I want to talk 13 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: about that too, How that felt, How you found out. 14 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: Malaura has been in many many feature films, including Hannah Montana, 15 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 1: the movie seventeen Again, Thank You for Smoking, Absolute Power, 16 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: opposite Cleanewood and Gene Hackman, and What a Scene That 17 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: Was with Gene Hackman and twenty seven Dresses. She stars 18 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: in the first one woman movie ever made a Golden Vanity, 19 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: as Mabel Montgomery, an iconic child star Alla Judy Garland. 20 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: The film is currently being submitted to festivals. Malaura Hardened welcome. 21 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: So excited to talk to you and to meet you. You. 22 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: Thank you. 23 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: First of all, how'd you get this role on Gilmore Girls? 24 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: They just make an offer. I can't imagine they made 25 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: you audition, but they just offered it to you, right, 26 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: Please say they offered it. 27 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember, I think so, yeah, I'm pretty sure. 28 00:01:55,480 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: I mean Amy Sherman Palladino and I are You've known 29 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: each other for a really long time because we used 30 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: to take ballet together at the same ballet studio as 31 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: little girls. So I've known her like since we were 32 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: really young, like maybe twelve or thirteen, I mean that 33 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: long ago. Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, they just 34 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: they offered it. 35 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, Okay, here come the questions. What was 36 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: she like as a twelve or thirteen year old? Go on, 37 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: cough character? 38 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 2: Isn't she? I remember really liking her. I mean she's 39 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 2: I still really like her. We get along great. You know, 40 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: she's she's really fun too. She's so smart, and she's quirky, 41 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: and she's so her own person, and you know, yeah, 42 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: she's she was always I think. I mean, I remember 43 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: just as a little girl just liking her. Just I 44 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: don't remember like we weren't like super close friends. I 45 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: just remember liking her and we would always say hello 46 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: at dance class, and she was always friendly to me, 47 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: and we were friendly to each other. And it was 48 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 2: really only later that we, you know, we like kind 49 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 2: of hung out as girlfriends a little bit. I think 50 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: it was after the Gilmore Girls thing. I think it 51 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: was like we went to lunch a few times. She 52 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: came and saw me in Chicago on Broadway. I played 53 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 2: roxy Heart and she came saw me, and we went 54 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: out to dinner and like had a whole like girls 55 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: hang and like we've done a few kind of days 56 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: like that where we've just hung out as girlfriends. 57 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: You know that's nice. That's very nice. Yeah, So you 58 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: saw no indication at that time that she was going 59 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: to go on to become one of the most prolific 60 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: writers and most awarded writers in television history. 61 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: And she's such an incredible I don't think people really 62 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: talk enough about her directing. I think she's absolutely exceptional director. Yeah, 63 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: I saw it in this episode watching this episode again 64 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: that she directed the one that I was in partings, 65 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: but you know, I have particularly noticed it and was 66 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: able to tell her at the Critics' Choice Awards this 67 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: this year that I just think she's just her directing 68 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: on marvelous, Miss Maisl is unbelievable, I mean, really really inspired. 69 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: You know, Oh, you were there, you were I was 70 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: there that night. Yeah, I saw Amy and Dan that night. 71 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,239 Speaker 2: You know, I know, wasn't that great? 72 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: It was great? It was a funny evening. Yeah. So 73 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: you played kron therapist being set up at Christopher emmeilin 74 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: Richard's Friday night dinner. Do you think your character had 75 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: any chance with him? 76 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah, she totally did. I mean, I think what 77 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: was so great about the character and watching this again 78 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 2: was the character was so not in any way desperate 79 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: or needy. She just was just who she was and 80 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: she was just sort of like being herself and this 81 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: guy could either. You know, I think she thought, whatever, 82 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: he's okay, this is I mean, she even says it's 83 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 2: the most blatant, you know, setup I've ever had besides 84 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 2: my mother. And she thought it was touching that that, 85 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 2: like this friend of her mother's really wanted her to, 86 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: you know, meet a guy in the new town that 87 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 2: she's moved into. And I think that's sweet and uh, 88 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: you know, and with such a great device to get 89 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: you know, to get Lauraai and Chris what Chris is 90 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: this character Christopher to get them together again, you know, 91 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: to get them like like talking, and he's saving her 92 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 2: and and it's kind of great. It's it's particularly great 93 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 2: that they call my character Libby that Libby is so 94 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: you know, that she's so centered and so like such 95 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: a potential like cash, you know what I mean. And 96 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: that makes it even more interesting, I think for the 97 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 2: regulars in the show and the and the fans of 98 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 2: the show that Christopher ends up in bed with, you know, Lauraai, 99 00:05:58,880 --> 00:05:59,679 Speaker 2: I think it's great. 100 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: So that's one of the things we just discussed. Do 101 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: you think that as a therapist you overstepped your bounds 102 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: a little bit in that you know, backseat therapy session 103 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: with Laurel I kind of advocating for her to do something. 104 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: Is that Is that something that you read in the 105 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: script and said, Oh, I don't know if a therapist 106 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: would do that, would go that far? 107 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: Do you think that, Well, I don't know, I don't 108 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: know how many therapists would have a therapy session in 109 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: their far with a notepad. 110 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: You gotta suspend, you got to you gotta suspend your disbeliever. 111 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: You're a set up date in this like tiny little 112 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 2: idyllic town that you know, you guys are all in, like. 113 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: The reality is a bit skewed there, So I guess 114 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: that you can accept anything exactly excellent point. You know, 115 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: it never dawned on us that it was just a 116 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: TV show and we're trying to terpet his real life. 117 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: It's like, what's we throw a flag on the play? 118 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: Uh So those are iconic dinner scenes. Those those Friday 119 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: night dinner scenes are some of the best stuff in 120 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: the whole thing. What was it like working with everybody? 121 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: Really great? Really great? I remember. I mean for me, 122 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: what was the most exciting thing was that Ed Herman 123 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: played my father when I was nine years old in 124 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: a Disney movie I did called North Avenue Irregulars. Oh my, 125 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: and I literally hadn't seen him since then. 126 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: That imbered and I of court. 127 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: And I had such fond memories of him. He was 128 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: so sweet to me when I was nine doing that 129 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: show sort of a caper like a caper movie, really 130 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: fun movie. If anyone can ever find that they should. 131 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: It's really fun. It had like Chlorus Leachman and Karen 132 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: Valentine and oh gosh in series, and I mean it 133 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: had some iconic, iconic comedians in any case that was 134 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: super fun. So that was I was mostly focused on 135 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: Ed just you know, just reconnecting with him and yeah. 136 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: But but everybody was perfectly nice to me. I don't 137 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: remember like thinking anything other than that. 138 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: So at nine years old, here you are. 139 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, started acting when I'm six. 140 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: Professionally, You're from Houston. 141 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: I was born in Houston. I was raised here. 142 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: Ah. 143 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, so they didn't your your parents didn't move here 144 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: to pursue the business. You moved here anyway? 145 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: Well, my parents are both actors, so they here for 146 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: the business for themselves. 147 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: Okay. 148 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 2: The reason I was born in Houston, Texas is because 149 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 2: my dad was doing a production at the Alley Theater 150 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: in Houston. So that's why. Yeah, that's why I was there, 151 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: and then traveling around doing regional theater for the first 152 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: five years of my life and then yeah, and then 153 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 2: then coming to LA and then really the only reason 154 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: I got into it was because my comm my parents' 155 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: commercial agents. When you went when during the time when 156 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 2: you had to drop off your headshots because they were 157 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: physical headshots. Uh, just said, you're so cute, don't you 158 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 2: want to do what mom and dad does? And I 159 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: was like, I could do what mom and dad does. 160 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: And I'd seen them age, and I'd seen them acting, 161 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 2: and I'd seen them working onlines, and I think I 162 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: just loved what it looked like to me, and I 163 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: was like, can I please? Can I please? I tugged 164 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 2: on their sleeves and tugged on their sleeves, and finally 165 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 2: they were like, oh, oh my god, this crazy business, 166 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 2: with all this rejection. We'll let her go on ten auditions. 167 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 2: If she doesn't get anything, we'll ease her out of it. 168 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: She'll never know the difference. Of course, I got the 169 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: first thing I went on. 170 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: So did. 171 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: That was that? 172 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: Were you were you a child star? Did you go 173 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: on the talk shows when you were a kid? 174 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: I didn't go on the talk shows. I still haven't 175 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 2: gone on the talk shows too much, really. 176 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: Really, So you were never on like Lenno or Carson 177 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: or anything. 178 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: No, No, yeah, I'm not really much of a talk 179 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: show type. I guess I don't really, I don't guess 180 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: I don't Garner. I mean I've done like. 181 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they don't like beautifulest directally funny people that 182 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: are really good at what they do. They hate that 183 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: right now, I know. 184 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, but no, but it's been, 185 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: it's been. It's been just great. Like like growing up 186 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: in this business was super fun. And yeah, to reconnect 187 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 2: with ed Herman was really really fun because he really 188 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: is a highlight in my memory. That was a super 189 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: fun show to work. That movie was incredible. On the 190 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 2: back lot of Disney and they were making Pete's Dragon 191 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: Around the Corner, which was a huge movie that came 192 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: out that summer, and I remember meeting the animator who 193 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: gave me a picture and I have a picture of 194 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 2: me with Pete the Dragon, who's completely animated of course. 195 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: Right anyway, let me ask you played a really integral 196 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: role here with that scene, okay, and that you realized, 197 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: you know, your character realized that Laurel I need to 198 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: stand up for herself and asked to a lobe. Did 199 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: you think that that was the right advice. 200 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:05,239 Speaker 2: Me personally? 201 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: You personally, Laura Harden, this is your life. 202 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: I think it's always good to push people to if 203 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: they have noise, if they have if they're suffering about something. 204 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: I think it's great to push through that so that 205 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 3: you can get to the other side faster. And sometimes 206 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 3: that requires pushing the boundaries. Sometimes it requires being. 207 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes it requires you know, just shutting up and wearing beige, 208 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: and other times it requires pushing through so that you 209 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: can get to the freedom faster. The freedom mind where 210 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 2: you don't have like a static television in the background in. 211 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: Your actually actually can be very toxic, right, So you've 212 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: got to clear it out. I think. 213 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 2: So, yeah, well, I don't think you can really get 214 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 2: anything done from that place, right, from a place of 215 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: like noise, noise, noise, noise, right, right, you know, you 216 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: have to have clarity, and you and sometimes to get 217 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: clarity you have to like you have to stir it 218 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: up and make it explode, you know. 219 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to get out of that paralysis. 220 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: That's right. 221 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: Interesting, interesting, interesting, So you're the right person to play 222 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: that role. You're very psychologically, aren't you. 223 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 2: And I was this necklace in in the episode. I noticed, 224 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: this is my personal character. Where's that necklace? 225 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: I put that remains? Look at that. I just got 226 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: an email for somebody I don't know. I get all 227 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: these mass emails about you know, they're collecting celebrity memorabilia 228 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: downtown Los Angeles this weekend. You could probably fetch a 229 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: nice sum for that. Anyway, I'll give you. 230 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: Okay, that's funny. You're right. I could go sell my beautiful. 231 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely, because that's that's what we do. 232 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: That my mother gave me. 233 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: So I got so okay, So Laurel I follows through 234 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: on this ultimatum. Right, yeah, you watch the episode, right? 235 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: I did? 236 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: All right? What was your reaction. 237 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 2: I loved it. I thought it was I thought it 238 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: was great. It was such a good cliffhanger, you know, 239 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: everybody was everything's changing. It's the end of the season, right, 240 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: it's the last episode of the season. When we used 241 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: to make twenty two episodes. 242 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: Right, remember that nine months it was like. 243 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: You make a living on a series. Because they were 244 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:29,599 Speaker 2: making twenty two episodes. 245 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: You could make a good living, you know, really. 246 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: Good living, and or a thing called residuals. 247 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: Residuals, remember those Remember those mailbox money. 248 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 2: Amazing when you run the mailbox. 249 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd skip to the mailbox. 250 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 2: You just skipped there. 251 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: It was so good then you'd skip back because you 252 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: had your residual checks. I can eat, I can eat exactly. 253 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, now, I know, right, everything's ten episodes 254 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: now at low ball money. Yeah, you know, it's still 255 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: a job, and it's still you got your insurance, and 256 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: it's still you know, a good decent chunk of money. 257 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: You can't necessarily live on it, you know, but what 258 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: the heck it's it's it's better than a stick in 259 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: the eye, right. 260 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: Can't necessarily live on it, and you don't care. 261 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: You can't even go to McDonald's on it. It's twenty 262 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: so that you could get your health insurance. You're not 263 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: making it sound because let me tell you something. You're 264 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: not gonna eat very much and you're gonna need that 265 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: health insurance, now, are you ever? And if there ever 266 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: were residuals where there wouldn't be, you wouldn't be able 267 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: to skip to the mailbox anymore because you'd be in 268 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: ill health, have no energy. You're starting. Yeah, I don't know. 269 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: It kind of sucks to be an actor these days, 270 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: but at least you. 271 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: Get then take our job any minutes. 272 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: Right, It's like we don't even discovers by the way, 273 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: we're not going to need you to report today or 274 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: like forever, because don't worry about the copyright stuff. 275 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: Just to buy your voice for three d and forty 276 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: five dollars seventeen cents. Oh god, I laugh, and soon 277 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: I will be crying. 278 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's over, man, We're done. Oh my god, yeah, 279 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: the last. 280 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: I'm all right. For those young actors that are out 281 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: there follow yours. 282 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, it's like it's like, if this 283 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: is the Titanic, how much of it is still sticking 284 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: out of the water. Is it just the tip? I 285 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: don't know. 286 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: We are resillions and we are creative being, yes, and 287 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: so we will find a way, you know what. 288 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: I think, you know what I think AI is going 289 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: to do though, as long as we're on that's up. 290 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be so creepily accurate and 291 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: saves the studios so much money. But I think it 292 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: will it will cause a real revival in live theater. 293 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: I do too. 294 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think live theater will be able to, 295 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, expand the seating, yes, because there'll be such 296 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: a demand for Because I think as good as AI 297 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: is and will be, I still think there's that creepy 298 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: element to it, where that's not real, it doesn't look real, 299 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: it's not the same. I mean. But I think that'll 300 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: last what a generation, and then after that generation everybody 301 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: be ai crazy and they'll go, what the hell you 302 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: old people talking about? It looks really real, it's great. 303 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: We don't care about live theater. But I think I 304 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: think for the next I don't know, twenty years. 305 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe, I do think though, that human human beings 306 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: really do crave connection, and we are I don't know, 307 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: we're pack animals, right, we want to be with other humans. 308 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: And here's the other thing, Like, I'm a person who 309 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 2: very much and most actors are. You know, feels like 310 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: when you're at a party and you walk in a 311 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: room and you can there's one hundred people there, but 312 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 2: there's someone way in the corner and you just feel 313 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: them so much that you turn your head and you connect. 314 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: You look at each other, you see each other, or 315 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 2: you see them or they don't see you. Those moments 316 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: that we all replicated movies and television shows all the 317 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: time really do happen. And that's because we're energetic beings. 318 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: We're not just our physical selves. We're not just body 319 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: you know, mind, flesh and bone. We have souls, we 320 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: have spirits, we have actual energy that we're exchanging all 321 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: the time. And I don't think I mean while I know, 322 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: AI isn't going to be able to exchange energy like that. 323 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: Right, No, not even close. 324 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 2: It'll be really interesting to see if it can make 325 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 2: people laugh and cry as deeply and resonant lee as 326 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: we can as actors. 327 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: Wow, it's an interesting dilemma. Yeah, it has potential tragic 328 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: proportions for futures, but very true. Listen, you've you've been 329 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: steadily working. 330 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 2: Yeah. 331 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: I don't need to tell you this. You need to 332 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: tell me this because I didn't know this. Thirty years 333 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: various television roles. 334 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: Films, thirty years more than years. 335 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: No, that's what it says here. It's only thirty years. Sorry, Laura, 336 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: we're right, You're wrong. Sorry, Okay, Yeah, No, I got 337 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: this from the research department. The AI department says it's 338 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 1: thirty years. So that's what it is. Thirty five years, years, 339 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: fifty years. 340 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: Fifty years. I've been a professional actor. What I'm fifty six? 341 00:18:59,359 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: I started. 342 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: I was no, stop it, stop it, No, you're thirty five. 343 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: Get at you? 344 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 2: No, I'm not. And that's another thing I really noticed 345 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: it at the. 346 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: Math said, you know, your first gig gets thirty I 347 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: mean at five, and then been doing thirty five thirty years, 348 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: and now you're thirty five years old. 349 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 2: Stop it, No, I'm not so fifty years. That's kind 350 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: of amazing five decades. But that's something I really noticed 351 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: about the Gilmour Girls episode. Man, I was so young 352 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 2: and I was so beautiful. I was watching the episode. 353 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: I was like, fuck, you're gorgeous and you're so young. 354 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 2: How old were you when you did this? 355 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: What? 356 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: What year was that? Do you remember what year this 357 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: one was? 358 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: This is two thousand and six, this is eighteen years ago. 359 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 2: I was very young. Eighteen years ago. 360 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: You were eight. You were eighteen years younger than fifty six, 361 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: so you was thirty thirty eight. 362 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. I really looked wow, and I was. 363 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: Just like, wow, you're still easy on the eyes, and 364 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: you were easy on the eyes back then. What can 365 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: I say? What can you say? It's a Melaura Harden thing, 366 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's just what happens. What's your favorite role 367 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: that you ever did? 368 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's really hard, I will say. I 369 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: mean golden Bandages on my mind because we've I've been 370 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 2: taking it to festivals and watching it multiple times. We 371 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 2: went to all these festivals last year with it, and 372 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 2: I would say it is one of my favorites because 373 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 2: she's such a rich character. She's so multi layered, she's 374 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: it's just me. So it was like super challenging and 375 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 2: fun and you know, just like more and more and more. 376 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 2: I'm one of those more and more more people. I 377 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 2: like more and more and more, and I like all fire, 378 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: all cylinders firing at all the all times. And that 379 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: required that because it was a small you know, like 380 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 2: micro budget. I made a dollar on that movie, you 381 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 2: know movie. But it was like just super fun to 382 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: to carry that journey of emotional you know, it's a 383 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 2: it's a hugely, it's hilarious, it's it's dramatic, it's tragic, 384 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: it's you know, so just the the universe of emotions 385 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 2: that I had to traverse was really exciting. Of course, 386 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 2: Chicago on Broadway was incredible to do because I'm a 387 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: singer and I'm a dancer, and to be able to 388 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: do the three things that I love eight times a week, 389 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: you know, acting, singing, and dancing all at once was 390 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 2: just like I was basically in heaven again because all 391 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 2: cylinders are firing, right, Should. 392 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: I do that? 393 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 2: The producers do it? 394 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 395 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: The answer is you don't hesitate, just say oh, it's 396 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 2: just it'll be one of the highlights of your life. 397 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 2: When I did the Hand of Montana movie, I got 398 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 2: Billy ray Cyrus excited about it. He went and did it. 399 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: He played Billy Flynn. 400 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: But I mean it's like actual singing. 401 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's a great song, you know, the song 402 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 2: Billy Oh my God. You would have a ball. You 403 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 2: should be like running to your agents and get on 404 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: the phone and. 405 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: Well they you know, they they reached out for my availability. 406 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 2: Okay, good, well you're pretty available right now, right like 407 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 2: we all are. Nothing's happening because of the strike. 408 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: No, no, I'm doing I'm doing a series in Canada. Okay, 409 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: good Yeah? 410 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: Where are you? Where? What part of Canada? 411 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: Halifax? 412 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: Where's that? 413 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: It's very east. It's it's almost a europe I. 414 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 2: Did the type in Montreal. Is it east more than 415 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: that Easter it's. 416 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: The It's the most eastern place in the northern North America. Okay, yeah, 417 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: it's sticking way out in the Atlantic, like if you're 418 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts, you got to make a hard right and 419 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: then go up the coast. You know, what is it? 420 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: What is it? What series are you doing there? 421 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: Sullivan's crossing. It's a Canadian Yeah, yeah, Americans, it's it's 422 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 1: it's on CW here. And you know, we haven't been 423 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: picked up yet for a third season, but probably will be. 424 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: But all right, between this season and third season, you 425 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: should do Chicago. Think so, yes, God, you'll have a 426 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: good time and then you can call me and thank 427 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 2: me for. 428 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 1: We have to Okay, So that's Golden Vanity, which is 429 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: this is the one woman movie. You are playing a 430 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: Judy Garland type character. You're singing, you're dancing, You're. 431 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 2: Dancing, but I'm saying not dancing. I do sing it. 432 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: And and what what what's the top three festivals you 433 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: took it to? 434 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 2: Well, it's it's a lot. Well, we premiered at the 435 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: Burbank International Film Festival where we're an Audience Award and 436 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 2: we won the I won Best Act. And then we 437 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 2: took it to the Fort Lauderdale International Film Festival where 438 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: I won Best Actor and we won the Audience Award. 439 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: And we also were in the Saint Augustine Film Festival, 440 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 2: and we were in the Women's Independent Film and Television 441 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 2: Festival were we won Best Narrative Feature. At Saint Augustine. 442 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 2: We got was that one's not a competition one, that 443 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 2: one's not a competition festival. Anywhere everywhere we went we won, 444 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: We won awards. I didn't even we didn't even apply 445 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: for the big Vibes because I just didn't. I just 446 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: was I was really needed to not wait around anymore 447 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: because this was a movie that was first time filmmakers, 448 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 2: first time writers. It took forever to get the post 449 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 2: done on this movie, to land on a cut that 450 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: was satisfactory, get the color correction, pay for the score, 451 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 2: the sound rights and the music rights and so forth. 452 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 2: And I literally woke up January last year and said, guys, 453 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 2: do we have all the rights in place? Can I 454 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 2: take this the reins on this and just submit to festivals. 455 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 2: I just want eyes on it. Really, that was my was. 456 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: I just wanted people to see it because it's a 457 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: real tour to force performance by me. It's a really wonderful, amazing, 458 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 2: little quirky, fabulous, fresh movie that I just wanted people 459 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 2: to see. So now we're trying to sell it in 460 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 2: twenty two. 461 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: All Right, it's called Golden Vanity starring Melaura Harden. Check 462 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: it out when it's available for downloads, or if it 463 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: hits your little theater or it gets on a streamer, 464 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: check it out. But I want to talk about Gene 465 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: Hackman Clint Eastwood Absolute Power, riveting scene. Tell us about 466 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: this if you don't know the scene and Absolute Power. 467 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: The Melaura plays the mistress of the President, the President 468 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: of the United States, which is portrayed by the Great, 469 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: the Great Gene Hackman, and Clint Eastwood is a cat burglar, 470 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: a high end cat burglar who was in that house 471 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: because it's not the president's house. It's the billionaire super 472 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: pac guy who's funding his campaign. Let it allowing Gene 473 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: Hackman to have his dalliance with Melaura Harden. And Clint 474 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: Eastwood is robbing this man's master bedroom safe which is 475 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: behind mirrors, and he's getting off with cash and jewels 476 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: and all kinds of things. And then Melaura Harden and 477 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: the President of the United States waltz into the room 478 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: and start kind of getting down down, and so Clint 479 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: can't leave, and he stays and he watches he sits 480 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: in that chair and he watches, and he watches you 481 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: get murdered right by the president of the United States 482 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: because he wanted it rough and he likes it rough. 483 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: And he smacked you and you smacked him back, and 484 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: then it got and then it got bad, and then 485 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: the bad thing happened. And what a heart wrenching scene. 486 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: Tell us about that. I mean, God, how did you 487 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: get it? How'd you get it? Did you audition what 488 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: I did? 489 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: I did audition for it, and actually it was It's interesting. 490 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 2: Phillis Huffman was the casting director who was a family 491 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: friend because David Huffman, her her late husband, actually was 492 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: a really close friend with my father. They had done 493 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 2: a movie together and become very close friends. And Phillis 494 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: called me in for it. And actually, when I first 495 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 2: read it, it was written completely naked. The whole time. 496 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 2: She was just nude from like start to finish, and 497 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: I just I just felt like, well, I'll go in, 498 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: but you know whatever, I'm not gonna I'm just not gonna. 499 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: I wasn't going to do like such a sexual scene 500 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: that becomes such a violent scene completely naked. I just 501 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 2: wasn't going to do that. So basically, I went in, 502 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 2: I did my reading and I told Phyllis that I said, 503 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 2: you know, just so you know, like I think this 504 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: is great. I love it. I love it. I would 505 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: love to work with Clinticeod of course and Gene Hackman 506 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 2: and you know, but I'm not I'm not going to 507 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: do this completely naked. So like I'm just letting you know. 508 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 2: She's like she's like okay, yeah, I mean, good to know, 509 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 2: you know. And so apparently, you know whatever, Clint liked 510 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: it and chose me, and she told him and and 511 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: and he was He's like, okay, well just ask her 512 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 2: if she'd be okay if it was like a very 513 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: short skirt, and if she could be wearing like a 514 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: like a bra underwear that we could expose. And I 515 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, absolutely, that's fine. And when I. 516 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: Went Clint's directing this movie as well, directed yeah, right 517 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: there you go. 518 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. So when I went in for my fitting, you know, 519 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 2: you know, I went in and got fitted for this 520 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: beautiful dress that they made for me, and you know, 521 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: beautiful bra and underwear a thing. And he was just great. 522 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: He was just like, you know, I went and met 523 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: them on that day and he was so sweet, and 524 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 2: I met Jean, and Jeane was like, I'm a little 525 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: nervous about our scene. And I I said, don't worry, Jeans, 526 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: I'll take care of you. 527 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 4: And I was like thirty and he was like seventy two, 528 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 4: I'm not kidding, as old as my dad, and you know, 529 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 4: and it was just so cute, like it made. 530 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 2: It was so cute that he was vulnerable enough to 531 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: tell me that he was nervous and that I was 532 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 2: playful with him. He loved and he set a place 533 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 2: for me every single day next to him at lunch, 534 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: and it would always be me and Clint, Me and 535 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: Jean and his bodyguard who was also his stand in 536 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: and friend and like trainer and everything, and we would 537 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: just the three of us would always eat together. He 538 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 2: was such a gentleman to me. Every time my skirt 539 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: flew up and they'd cut, you always put my skirt 540 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: down when they'd cut. He always gave me his hand 541 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 2: to help me up. He was just he couldn't have 542 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: been more of a gentleman. And Clint too, and I 543 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 2: really felt like the two of them were just you know, 544 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 2: it was funny because when I finished, I was like, well, 545 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: if I ever was going to do a completely nude 546 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 2: scene from like for it's like a ten minute long scene. 547 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: To do a ten minute long scene completely nude, I 548 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: think Clint eastwooding Jene happened to prove themselves to be 549 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: the ones to do that with, you know, like because 550 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 2: they just were so there was just never anything lascivious 551 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: or distasteful or it was just like playful and warm 552 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: and respectful. And it just couldn't have been a better 553 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: working environment. 554 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: Man, that's fantastic. What a scene. 555 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great scene. 556 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: What a great director he is. 557 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: He's such a great director, and he's so funny. I 558 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: mean when he you know, in the scene where he 559 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: put in during the scene he punches me and I 560 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: and there's a you know a shot where Clint was 561 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: like they were down on the ground and I fall 562 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: into the shot like you know, just a very close up. 563 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 2: And the first time I did it, I fall into 564 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: the shot and I and we cut and I was like, 565 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 2: oh god, like I really I went down too hard. 566 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 2: I hit my head and Clint was like, Laura, you 567 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: just you can just you can just act it. You 568 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: don't have to do it, really do it. 569 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: It was it was. 570 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 2: I'm buying it. You don't have to. Don't hurt your head. 571 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: Wow, man, what a feather in your cap though. To 572 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: work with those two guys, I'm really just great for you. 573 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: What a scene. That's one of the most memorable movie 574 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: scenes because when they said Melaura Harden, I went, wait 575 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: a minute, I know her, Wait a minute. She was 576 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: in that scene, right, That was one of the great scenes. 577 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: I love that vivid. 578 00:31:54,080 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: Oh fantastic. All right, so we're gonna play a little 579 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: game now called rapid fire. 580 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: Okay, you ready? 581 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: Not really good luck? I hate rapid fire, but I'll 582 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: try good luck. Okay, I'm trying to wish you luck. 583 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: How do you like your coffee? 584 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 2: I don't drink coffee? 585 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: Thank you? Are you Team Logan, Team Jass, Team Dean? 586 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: You don't drink coffee? I get it. Who is your 587 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,719 Speaker 1: favorite Gilmore Girls couple? Luke and LAURELEI, Emily and Richard? 588 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: Uh, Luke and larele I? 589 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: Correct answer? 590 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: Can I not say that when you're sitting here? 591 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: Correct answer? You don't drink coffee? Would you rather work 592 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: with Michelle or Kirk? 593 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 2: I don't know who? Should you tell me who? 594 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: You don't drink coffee, Michelle, that's always a that's a 595 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: safe no. No, no, Michelle, it's a safer choice. 596 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I don't if I like making the safe choice, 597 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 2: so I'll say I'll say. 598 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: You did that scene, so that's not a safe choice. 599 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: What would you order at Luke Steiner? 600 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 2: Not coffee? 601 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: Everything else? But you know, I have a coffee company 602 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: and we'd like you, as our spokesperson would Who would 603 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: you rather hang out with? Paris or Lane? 604 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is hard for me. I'm not 605 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: a Gilmore Girls uber fan. Really, you're gonna have to 606 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 2: feed me some of these answers. 607 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: Because you'd rather hang out with Lan? Yeah? 608 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 2: Why? 609 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: Because you don't drink coffee. You need a lot of 610 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: coffee to deal with Paris, like copious amounts. You need 611 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: an IV. 612 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: I wish my daughters were here so they could, like, 613 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: you know, shout in my ear because they both have 614 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 2: watched the Gilmour Girls from like, you know, they've seen 615 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 2: it all. They've seen the whole thing, and I really haven't, 616 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 2: so they'd. 617 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:14,439 Speaker 1: Be like, mom, that one, that one, Harvard or Yale? 618 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 2: Gosh, let's see, Well probably I would say Yale. Yeah 619 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 2: for me? 620 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: Okay, why well. 621 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: Because the you know, the Yale Drama School. 622 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: Is that's completely logical, Meryl Streep is why, I mean, right, Yeah, 623 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 1: would you rather attend a DAR event with Emily or 624 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: a town meeting with Taylor? 625 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 2: A town meeting? Yeah no, you'd rather, okay, d the. 626 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,240 Speaker 1: D very very hot and sweaty in those tents. 627 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Andy. 628 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: Degree all night. What you call it DAR? Daughters of 629 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: the American Revolution, I'd rather, oh, definitely that. Yeah, you 630 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: get the Yeah, you don't have to sweat my daughter. 631 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: It's over in like. 632 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 2: An hour, The Daughter's American Revolution when they were like 633 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 2: nine and seven. 634 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah, okay, that's like a real thing. 635 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: It's cool. 636 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's a real Gilmore girl's character you would 637 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: want as a roommate. You natch uh something in your life. 638 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 2: You are all in on something in my life. 639 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: That I'm in your life that you are all in 640 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: on being a mom, being a mom. Fantastic, Melaura Harden. 641 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 1: You are fun and you're funny, and what a great career, 642 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: and keep on keeping on And I guess I'll maybe 643 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: hopefully one day work with you as an AI bot somewhere. 644 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 2: Well, no, let's not do it as ais let's do 645 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 2: it as real people. You want to do it as 646 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 2: real people, I think so it'd be more fun. I'm 647 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 2: much more energy that way. 648 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk to the producers of this show. 649 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna I'm gonna get you on my show. 650 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 2: Okay, good, I love that idea. Let's do it. 651 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: I like I like it too, Yeah, let's. 652 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 2: Do it me. I'm not working right now. 653 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: You know what. I'm actually going to talk to them 654 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: after I get off. I'm gonna go. 655 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that idea. 656 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: I don't mess around. 657 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 2: No, let's not mess around. I don't know. There's no 658 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 2: time to mess around. 659 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: An I have no time, no, no time, I have 660 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: no time. So all the best. It was a pleasure. 661 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 2: You're a pleasure to thank you. 662 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: And uh, just good luck with the film, really good 663 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: luck with Golden with a Golden Vanity. Good luck with 664 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: Golden Vanity. And I hope it. I hope it blows 665 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: up for you. 666 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 2: And yeah, well, I don't you know what I at 667 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: this point, I just want people to see it. I 668 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 2: just want it to sell so people can see it. 669 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 2: Because it's a it's a quirky thing. It's not it's 670 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 2: not for everybody. It's it's you know, but I'm telling 671 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 2: you it's really good for people that want to sit 672 00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 2: through it. If you want, I'll send you a link, 673 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 2: a private link. You can watch it. 674 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: And you tell me I think, yeah, I know, I 675 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: I want to see it. I definitely want to see it. 676 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, all the best, Okay, bye, bye 677 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,959 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and don't forget Follow us on Instagram at 678 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: I Am all In podcast and email us at Gilmore 679 00:37:48,440 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: at iHeartRadio dot com