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Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. Ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Quest Love Supreme. I mean,

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Speaker 1: here's Quest Love. I mean we have Team Supreme. We

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Speaker 1: have the one and only Sugar Steve. You should be

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Speaker 1: Stone Steve. What I think you need a new moniker?

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 2: I thought you said you should be Stone right now, Steve.

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Speaker 2: I was like you my mission accomplished that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, Stone Steve.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm giving you Sugar Steve. It's a brand now, she's.

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Speaker 1: Made a brand out of it. If like a hold

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Speaker 1: the way of life?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ain't work. I'm good.

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Speaker 1: As long as you're still living. That's that's that's all

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Speaker 1: care about.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm living.

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Speaker 1: Uh unpaid bill. It's also in the house. How's it going? Fantastic?

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Speaker 1: Life fantastic? All right ya? How are you yo?

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Speaker 3: For real?

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Speaker 4: I was real calm, but then I saw her face

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Speaker 4: and I got really happy. Okay, I'm like, I'm excited,

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Speaker 4: Like we've missed that face.

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Speaker 1: We missed the ship album? Absolutely Fonticolo, How are you.

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Speaker 5: I can leave leaving come back?

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Speaker 6: No, you guys, get all excited.

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Speaker 1: Again, just for the for the whole hour and a half.

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Speaker 1: Just come back and come back in ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: What can I say our guest today, Well, for starters,

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Speaker 1: she's sold over thirty million units of her albums, and

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Speaker 1: in the last two decades, I believe they're ten in total.

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Speaker 1: But besides all that she personally, I will say that

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Speaker 1: she's one of my favorite voices in music, and thank you.

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Speaker 1: Not in that oh. I like niche unusual sounding singers,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's rare to hear any trace of soul

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Speaker 1: or life in such a technically perfect culture that we

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Speaker 1: live in now, where everything is overdone and overwrought and

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Speaker 1: too perfect. Like she has a pulse in her voice,

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Speaker 1: and that's what I always loved about her. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: request Love Supreme Macy.

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Speaker 5: Gray, Hello, sweetheart?

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Speaker 3: How you doing?

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Speaker 5: Hey? You brush?

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Speaker 1: Right now?

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Speaker 6: I'm in my bed in Los Angeles, California, sitting on

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Speaker 6: my bed. The internet in my house is best in

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Speaker 6: my room. So when I have stuff like this, I

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Speaker 6: get in the bed.

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Speaker 1: I see, well, yeah, we're we thought we were all

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Speaker 1: in our beds. But wait, before I ask anything, this

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Speaker 1: is what I have to know. So I'm I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: getting my first, real, real, real house hooking up right now.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And the one thing that the one idea I'm stealing

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Speaker 1: from you is the idea of the chocolate room. When

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Speaker 1: I first went to your house, you had a room

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Speaker 1: dedicated all brown, all chocolate. Which do you still maintain

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Speaker 1: that in your house? It's been a while since I've

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Speaker 1: ever been back to your crib. I'm just asking, Mike, is.

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Speaker 5: I got a chocolate room? But you have to. It's

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Speaker 5: very important.

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Speaker 6: You have to get the paint suited or else it'll

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Speaker 6: just look like dude to brown. You gotta get like

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Speaker 6: a proper painter and tell them you want it swayed.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 6: That sounds a yeah, okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I was about to say, damn it. It's

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Speaker 1: been so long since since we wrapped to each other,

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Speaker 1: you know. I now I feel like I'm really we're

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Speaker 1: reintroducing ourselves to each other. I mean, of course, in

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Speaker 1: your circle, I always heard people call you Nata Nat,

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Speaker 1: but I know, yeah, that, uh Macy is stage. How

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Speaker 1: did you How did you get that name? I never

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Speaker 1: asked you, like, how did you get the name Macy Gray?

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Speaker 6: I saw it on a mailbox. I guess there's there

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Speaker 6: is a real Macy Gray.

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Speaker 5: So you know in Ohio, you know how, like back

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Speaker 5: in the.

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Speaker 6: Day, so everybody used to make up their name, like

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Speaker 6: now everybody.

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Speaker 5: I know when I.

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Speaker 6: Was when I was coming up, everybody had a fake name, right,

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Speaker 5: And so I thought I had to make up a name.

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Speaker 6: So I just I saw this name on a mailbox

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Speaker 6: and I was like, you know, that sounds good, you know,

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Speaker 6: I mean I saw it on a mailbox when I

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Speaker 6: was much younger. But when I decided to make up

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Speaker 7: Wait, have you ever looked up the actual Macy Gray? Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I mean the one from the mailbox.

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Speaker 5: He lived across the street.

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Speaker 1: So somewhere your neighbor has told that story.

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Speaker 5: Least Oh my god, a mail a hundred.

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Speaker 1: Times that she's named after me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I like, I knew who he was, but it

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Speaker 6: didn't like resonate. So I saw it that spelled out

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Speaker 6: on a mailbox.

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Speaker 5: It was kind of like you remember in a Boogie

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Speaker 5: Nights and he goes Dirk Tiggler. I saw. I didn't

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Speaker 5: like Dirk Tiggler. It was kind of like that kind

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Speaker 5: of moment.

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Speaker 3: Bookie Nights.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you need to go steal that mailbox just chocolate room.

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Speaker 1: Is he still living?

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Speaker 5: No, he passed a few years ago. Lives on the

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Speaker 5: name lives on.

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Speaker 1: Oh Wow okay, and like have you has he seen

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Speaker 1: you since you christiened yourself? Basic?

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Speaker 5: No? I never ran into him after that.

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Speaker 6: But you know, he lived on my mom and dad's

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Speaker 6: street and then and then they moved, but they were

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Speaker 6: they were never like friends or nothing, but you know,

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Speaker 6: he was just a guy across the street's older across

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Speaker 1: So I believe you were born in Ohio, Ohio. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say what city was it and

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Speaker 1: what type of town was it?

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Speaker 6: So Canton c A N t O N okay. It's

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Speaker 6: most known for the Football Hall of Fame is in Canton.

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Speaker 2: That's a sport of mirror.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh okay, I get it.

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay. So I went to school with Marilyn Manson.

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Speaker 5: He's from Canton. Wow O. Jays are from Canton to

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Speaker 5: the Barges.

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Speaker 6: Lebron's from from Akron, Act is like twenty minutes away.

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Speaker 6: It's like, you know, it's like the next little city over.

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Speaker 6: And then a bunch of people Steph Curry's from Akron.

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Speaker 6: Trying to think who else oh Hio.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's quietly, but it's it's

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Speaker 1: definitely the heartbeat of America. Like yeah, for okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: So Steve's blame the sports to me? Why why why

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Speaker 1: are all the Hall of Fames of sports in Ohio?

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Speaker 1: I understand why the rock and Roll Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: is there because allegedly Alan Freed, they claim he coined

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Speaker 1: that he just stole it from whatever black person was

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Speaker 1: saying it. How he coined the term. So that's that's

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Speaker 1: why I know the rock and Roll Hall of Fames

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland. But I mean just in terms of Cooperstown

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Speaker 1: or the football hall, like why.

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Speaker 2: Is well, Cooperstown's in New York.

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Speaker 1: That's how much I don't know about the sports. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know the actually right now, Like Bill, I

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Speaker 1: don't think I've ever embarrassed you more. You're poundering your

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Speaker 1: future on this podcast based on that last question, and

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Speaker 1: I just, yeah, Cooperstown is very much in New York.

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Speaker 1: That's okay, Hollows. That's how much I don't do the sports.

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Speaker 1: We know, we went. I went to a baseball game

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Speaker 1: with you, do you remember we had geese steaks. It

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Speaker 1: was a big night for the team lose when we

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Speaker 1: went probably yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: How can you don't like sports? Why don't you watch sports?

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Speaker 1: No, it's not that I don't like sports. I just

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Speaker 1: joke that, you know, you can't worship two gods. And

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Speaker 1: for me, there's music. People stick to music and sports

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Speaker 1: people stick to sports. And then some people get really

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Speaker 1: really defensive when I say that, well, I like sports

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Speaker 1: and I do music, And then behind their backs, I

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Speaker 4: So you dedicated your life a little harder to music

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Speaker 4: than most a mirror.

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Speaker 7: So that's not healthy to just love one thing only

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Speaker 7: you know, like, come on, experience a little bit more

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Speaker 1: But do you meditate three hours a day? I played

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Speaker 1: play ball when I was a kid. I played kickball,

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Speaker 1: played dodgeball. None of those are real kickballs a.

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Speaker 2: Thing I'm saying. They're not professional.

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Speaker 6: Kickball and roller skate. Yeah good at ping pong, Ping

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Speaker 6: pong dominant.

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Speaker 5: Space tag king ball is a real sport.

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Speaker 6: People get people get serious on site, they get upset.

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Speaker 1: Have you guys? Are you are you guys keeping up

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Speaker 1: with the now that they have the space tournament on

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Speaker 1: the Poker channel.

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Speaker 3: Shut up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just get it real now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, ye, talk about that later.

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Speaker 1: I wonder what, okay, if you know they're now starting

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Speaker 1: spades tournaments.

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Speaker 5: On the my game, can you win money?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're playing professionally.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's about respect play.

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Speaker 1: I played one spade game in my life with with

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Speaker 1: Jill and lizel and I did horrible and that was it.

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Speaker 1: That was my.

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Speaker 6: He plays played like chess, checkers and dominos.

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Speaker 1: See after watching Queen's gambit, I was going to try

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Speaker 1: for three days. I was on fire about chess and

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Speaker 1: then I lost that fire, so I'll stick to Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but staxis, like I played ghetto version, not the There's

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Speaker 1: so many ways to cheat it. There are so many ways.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Okay, we're never going to talk about Macy's career.

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Speaker 1: I get offended when white people won't allow the ghetto

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Speaker 1: rules of of UNO to stand, and even crazier UNO

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Speaker 1: once try to clap back at me on Twitter because

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Speaker 1: I told him like staxis are allowed.

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Speaker 3: That was a triples all day son.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they tried to, like you know, the Twitter account

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Speaker 1: of you know, try to correct me and I had

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Speaker 1: to send them and blacks would have shut that ship down. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can't. We took over that game. I'm sorry. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: what was your first musical memory?

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Speaker 6: My dad whooping my ass because I wouldn't practice my piano,

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Speaker 6: getting my ass beat because I had to practice a

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Speaker 6: half hour every day, and sometimes I would like, wait

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Speaker 6: till he fell asleep, and I'll think you'd sleep and

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Speaker 6: then and then I would say, yeah, I practice it,

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Speaker 6: and he would Then I would get a whooping if

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Speaker 6: I if I didn't.

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Speaker 1: Practice, if you didn't practice your skills, yeah, man. So wait,

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Speaker 1: how old were you when you first started playing piano?

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Speaker 1: Was this like a church requirement thing or like just

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Speaker 1: something to do to pass the time or no, it's

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Speaker 6: My mom had this thing for signing me up for

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Speaker 6: That was like my babysitter. So if I was at

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Speaker 6: the y MCA all day, then you know I was coming.

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Speaker 6: That was just like after school. I went to piano

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Speaker 6: The bot with my own money was Purple Rain Huge

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Speaker 3: Did you bring Purple Rain back to them? Like, did

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's when I got really into like all

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Speaker 5: I got really into Prince.

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Speaker 1: What a time to be alive when you would have

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Speaker 5: I was obsessed with that. Wow. So after so that

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Speaker 1: So I mentioned at the top of the show, mhm

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I always had a unusual voice. And then when

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Speaker 5: Like what it was?

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Speaker 3: It just way different or has it evolved into something?

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Speaker 6: But but yeah, I've always had a you know, funny voice.

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Speaker 5: They call it okay beautiful.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So, my mom took me to see Michael jacks

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Speaker 5: Face, on his face. But let me tell you how

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Speaker 1: Well he did something for that uh all of his

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Invincible, I know it was like talking about the movie.

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Speaker 6: But no, it was a MTV remember that type his

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Speaker 1: Oh oh god, that's my favorite moment. The dude from

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Speaker 1: is he is he from paulp at the World? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, but he.

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Speaker 5: Got beat up really bad, but they him up anyway,

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Speaker 5: after walking through you welcome, he's walking by.

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Speaker 6: He has fifty bodyguards and I took my mom and

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Speaker 6: He goes hey Maids's mom and then he walked away.

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Speaker 5: Nurse.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm just glad the bodyguards didn't didn't beat up

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Speaker 6: You know how moms are, Like bodyguards don't mess with

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Speaker 2: What what Prince tour was? The was your first concert tour?

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Speaker 2: Was that? Okay?

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Speaker 5: I memorized the show. I knew all the moves.

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Speaker 3: What you wear, what you wear?

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Speaker 6: Oh, I know, I did my hair, I had my

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Speaker 5: I don't remember what I wore, but I was trying.

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Speaker 6: To get that hairstyle when they at least Oh yeah,

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Speaker 6: who was the first prince tour that you saw?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, questions, the first, the first, the first two princes.

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Speaker 5: So it's okay, you're fifty.

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Speaker 1: The sow anyway, Yeah, technically technically the Love Sexy Show.

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Speaker 3: How old were you? I'm telling miss Jackie? How old

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Speaker 1: Shut up away? Yeah, okay, so what what would what

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Speaker 1: do you? What would you think you're come to Jesus moment?

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Speaker 6: I met this kid, right, he had a four track.

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Speaker 5: I'm giving away my age again. He had a four

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Speaker 6: He used to write songs and he was super cute

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Speaker 6: because I, you know, just so I could hang out

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Speaker 5: You know, I was trying to get it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So the.

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Speaker 6: Way I got attached to it, I started like writing songs,

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Speaker 5: How it goes.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for him, Yeah, I was writing songs for his tracks. Okay,

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Speaker 5: And then one of his friends had every.

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Speaker 1: I like it so not not one person until that moment.

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Speaker 1: I saw you as a lightning in a bottle moment

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Speaker 1: because like, again, the texture of your voice is like

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Speaker 1: and unique for singing. Like it's just like no one

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Speaker 1: like we got to get you at least in your

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say, you look exactly like you did

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Speaker 5: when I met you.

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Speaker 7: No, he's got a team of people working on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a team work. Wait a minute. Your

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Speaker 1: family's last name is McIntyre.

448
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Speaker 5: My mom and dad. My last name is Haines. I

449
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Speaker 5: was married.

450
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Speaker 6: I mean I'm not married anymore, but I was married.

451
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Speaker 6: I didn't change my name back. But my mom and

452
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Speaker 6: dad are McIntire's.

453
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Speaker 1: Yeah, good Irish people. And what yeah, because my family

454
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Speaker 1: is mcintires. Are they from any of the Carolinas or yeah,

455
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Speaker 1: my dad's.

456
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Speaker 6: From the south uh huh Wish of Georgia, Florida. I

457
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Speaker 6: don't know if they're from the Carolina, but I know

458
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Speaker 6: his family is in Tampa.

459
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Speaker 5: Is what do you know who won the Super Bowl?

460
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Speaker 5: Quest Steve No, She asked.

461
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Speaker 2: You, Yeah, she asked you.

462
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew who won the super Bowl as it

463
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Speaker 1: was Tom Brady wanted the super Bowl, Tom Brady and

464
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Speaker 1: the Weekend one the week den he lost the super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't like the Weekend at the super Bowl.

466
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Speaker 5: I thought it was cool.

467
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Speaker 2: I wasn't thought I was tripping.

468
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Speaker 1: Great means out of it.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's all I think at this rate. If you can

471
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Speaker 1: get a good meaning out of something like that's a win,

472
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Speaker 1: and yeah it's a win, it's like what magical point

473
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Speaker 1: you know, seven seconds can you take from this moment?

474
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Speaker 1: But yeah, that Jack I just found out that jacket

475
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Speaker 1: he wore, that red line stone jacket that costs three

476
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Speaker 1: million dollars. What Yeah, that that that Ryan's red Ryan

477
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Speaker 1: Stone jacket. It's like hand stitched.

478
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Speaker 3: And I know he gave that up to feed somebody.

479
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Speaker 3: I know he did.

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Speaker 5: Would that be three million dollars he gave so he

481
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Speaker 5: did something with.

482
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Speaker 1: That uh uh? Made of I think made of rubies,

483
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Speaker 1: not run.

484
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Speaker 5: Made. And it should have cooked.

485
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Speaker 6: For him and and and exercise every day and had

486
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Speaker 6: a pigs for him.

487
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Speaker 5: Three million dollars.

488
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Speaker 1: Well, he worried every thing that he's promoted so far

489
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Speaker 1: with this record.

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Speaker 3: That jacket.

491
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Speaker 1: Okay, the red jacket, that's you know, it's very expensive jacket.

492
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Speaker 5: What do you think of artists having to pay to

493
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Speaker 5: do the Super Bowl?

494
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Speaker 1: Artists were paying to do the same.

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Speaker 4: Wait a minute now, I'll break the news. Now, what

496
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Speaker 4: are you saying that? What's going on now?

497
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Speaker 5: You have to pay to do halftime?

498
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Speaker 6: Well, you pay for your own show, which is cost

499
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Speaker 6: him about five million dollars.

500
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Speaker 1: I don't think he paid. I don't. I think you're

501
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Speaker 1: responding to did he pay to do it? No? They

502
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: they still have to come to you. They organized that rocket.

503
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: They came to him.

504
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Speaker 3: I get that part.

505
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what what you want to do

506
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: to it depends on how deep your pocket took.

507
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Speaker 4: They don't have a budget for a show, butch your

508
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 4: What Jesus said was there is no budget for the show.

509
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Speaker 3: It's like, you can come. I would invite you to

510
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Speaker 3: come and then you can figure it out.

511
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Speaker 1: Right, Well, there's a limited budget, but if you want

512
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: more than that's coming out of your pocket. So yes,

513
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Speaker 1: in addition to those what two to three million dollars

514
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: just for that jacket, I think he paid an additional

515
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: seven million.

516
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Speaker 3: What's the.

517
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Speaker 5: That? Remember? Okay, so did it used to be like that?

518
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Speaker 6: Though it started with Katy Perry was the first one

519
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 6: to pay to do halftime?

520
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: Wow?

521
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 5: That three years ago? Yeah?

522
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: Wow?

523
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: Well you got to make an impression and if you

524
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it works for you.

525
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: Like what's the return? What's the return? So I was

526
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: about to say, what's the return on?

527
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's.

528
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Speaker 1: You.

529
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Speaker 7: I mean, if you if you know you're going to

530
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 7: make twenty million dollars that night from streaming people streaming

531
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Speaker 7: your music or something like that, and you spend ten million,

532
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Speaker 7: you know, it's.

533
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Speaker 1: Probably a scait of money. Don't make none situation. So

534
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Speaker 1: I think I think at the time, maybe he agreed

535
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Speaker 1: to do it kind of thinking that it was going

536
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: to be a victory lap. But I don't think he

537
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: was expecting to get shut out at the Grammys this year,

538
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: so that kind of made it, uh man, that sort

539
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: of thing.

540
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: But you know, you should have taken the weekend off.

541
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Speaker 1: There you go. See, this is where I would press

542
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:40,719
Speaker 1: words of wisdom. It mays, I know, I know often

543
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: I can tell when critics are lazy when they start

544
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: bringing up Billie Holliday, because I actually think your voice

545
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: is closer to Esther Phillips. Was she at all an

546
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Speaker 1: influence on you? Like the range and the tone of

547
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: your voice and the texture of it is more closer

548
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: in my opinion too, Esther Phillips then Billie Holliday. But

549
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:09,239
Speaker 1: you know, not many people know of know of Esther

550
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: Phillips and her catalog like that. But like, is there

551
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: is there a north star for you? Like someone that

552
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: vocally that you admired, Not in a Prince I'm a

553
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: Prince fan way, but like, yeah, as far as you're singing,

554
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: there was a lot.

555
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Speaker 6: You know, I think when you're into music, you listen

556
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 6: to a lot of different singers, and.

557
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 5: You know you can learn so much.

558
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 6: So Billy Holliday is, uh, what's so magical about her

559
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 6: is you can you can understand every word she says.

560
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 6: You know, She's not like she's not gonna get with

561
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 6: Houston and bulk out some crazy note.

562
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Speaker 5: But so I learned from her to get my words

563
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Speaker 5: in there, you know.

564
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Speaker 6: And then uh so, like from like like I told you,

565
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Speaker 6: I liked uh, what's his name, David Lee from Van Halen,

566
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 6: and like I.

567
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 5: Learned from them. I learned from him. Yeah, but I

568
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 5: can scream because also.

569
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Speaker 6: And then you listen to like hip hop like Biggie,

570
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 6: like you learn to sing on rhythm, like learn to

571
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 6: hit the beat, you know what I mean.

572
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 5: So there's all these lessons and I'm still learning.

573
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Speaker 6: You know, I'm trying to think Chaka Khan, you know,

574
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 6: or somebody like Uh. Fritz is interesting because he did

575
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 6: so many things with his voice, Like he could go wow,

576
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 6: wow yo big well the picture and then he could

577
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Speaker 6: do a falsetto. So I learned from him to try,

578
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 6: you know, experiment with my voice and and and and

579
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Speaker 6: hit high notes and stuff like that.

580
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Speaker 1: You know, do you prefer singing in a lower range

581
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Speaker 1: or falsetto range?

582
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 5: No? I learned what else?

583
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 6: You know, there's a head voice your chest voice, and

584
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 6: I've learned to not have to use my so I

585
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 6: got all kind of voices.

586
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: It's okay. Is as a non singer, I'm gonna ask

587
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: this question, is that really important? Like I know, uh,

588
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: vocal trainers or whatnot are real big on like sing

589
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: from your diaphragm, singing from your diaphragm. But why why

590
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: why are most people that teach people to project, be

591
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: it acting coaches or singers, why are they so insistent

592
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: on singing from your diaphragm and not your.

593
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 5: Throat because it takes the work off of your throat

594
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 5: because your your vocal cords will wear out a lot

595
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 5: faster than your stomach.

596
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 6: You know, a proper singer, I can can sing from

597
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 6: like I can sing from my cheeks.

598
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 5: I can I can do all kinds of stuff.

599
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 6: But yeah, the idea is to use your throat as

600
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 6: as little as possible because your vocal cords can wear

601
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 6: a lot faster. There's a lot of canceled shows stuff

602
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 6: like that.

603
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: I was going to ask if you're when you were

604
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: actively touring, like how how much damage would have to

605
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: occur for you to cancel a show? Because even if

606
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: you have a slightly hoarse or slightly scratched, sort of

607
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: goes into what your tone already is.

608
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 6: But no, I've only I swear, I've only canceled two

609
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 6: shows in my whole career because of my voice. Okay,

610
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 6: one show I missed because of you know, a couple

611
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 6: of shows I missed because of the weather.

612
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 5: But my voice I got, Like I call myself super.

613
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 6: Vocals because I like and and and when I when

614
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 6: I canceled, it was it was all karma against Seal.

615
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 6: It really wasn't my fault, Like he was so off

616
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 6: with me, and I think I messed my That guy

617
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 6: just reached down and it's like you don't have to

618
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Speaker 6: take the ship and it Seal.

619
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Speaker 1: Samuel see Seal.

620
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Speaker 5: Yeah that's a seal, the seal in the ocean. No,

621
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 5: but I opened for Seal for a couple of weeks

622
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 5: and it didn't go well. And that was the only

623
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 5: tour that my voice, my voice ever punked out at me.

624
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: Why didn't go well?

625
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 6: He's just, you know, just we just didn't connect. You know,

626
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 6: it wasn't you know, we want you know, I didn't

627
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 6: go like that. Well you know, when I when I

628
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 6: opened for the Roots, that wasn't great. How was it

629
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 6: that was my first my first tour you guys the roots?

630
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 5: Wow?

631
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to doing back. When's the last time

632
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: you wrapped it? Doing or? Steffie formerly known of Star

633
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: sixty nine one, used to be in the Jazzy Fat

634
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: Nasties before they went down to a duo. But the

635
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: one was the one that put me onto you.

636
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:46,479
Speaker 5: Oh really?

637
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: Oh she she stalked. She stalked me like I gotta

638
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: let you. Because the thing was, I was so over

639
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: the over the top excited for when the Jazzy's were

640
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: on Tommy Boy as a foursome, when Jay Swift was

641
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: producing them. It's like the next to slum Village. That

642
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: was like the demo I was the most excited about

643
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: ever hearing no offense. I love you too. I want

644
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: to hear this demo. Yeah, so uh, I think knowing

645
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: the the excitement I had for the Jazzy's, she like

646
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: hit I remember her hitting me at like it was

647
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: past me. It might have been one am and I

648
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: was in l a I thing. It was like right

649
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: after a House of Blue show and she's like, I'm

650
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: driving over to play this, and I sat in her

651
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: car and listened and like I was like, who the

652
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: hell is this? And yeah, like Dawn was like, you're

653
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: you're your biggest champion. So I Dawn Beckman Center, I love.

654
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: I haven't talked to I don't know if she's on

655
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: social media or anything. I haven't talked to Dawn in

656
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 1: like ten years. Maybe. God, I keep I'm in denial

657
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: about what year we're living in. Yeah, I'll say like

658
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: a few years back, thinking I'm talking about like two

659
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: thousand and four, two thousand and five.

660
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 4: But the year y'all talking about is that when the

661
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 4: tour was two thousand and four tour it.

662
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: Was too ninety nine two thousand. Wow, it came out

663
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 1: in two thousand and one, so I'll say ninety nine.

664
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, because it was before my I told

665
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 5: with you before my record broke. Wow.

666
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, she did you remember the time? You remember the

667
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: time you uh, I don't know. Maybe you were on

668
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: tour with Dave Matthews. It was in Boston, Yeah, and

669
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 1: you were drummerless and yeah.

670
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 5: I was thinking about that yesterday.

671
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: You called me on a whim and I tried to

672
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: get up there, but it was like the weather was

673
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: was just hard. Did you did you do a drum

674
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 1: less show that night.

675
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,479
Speaker 6: No, no, I forget what we did, but I thought

676
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 6: about that yesterday.

677
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 5: I was like, he was so cool, he was gonna

678
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 5: fly out and do my show because you were on tour.

679
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: Too, right, Yeah, I just never casually. I mean, that's

680
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: the first time where it was just like hey, I'll

681
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: be like going out to get cigarettes, like hey, I'll

682
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: be back running the Boston real quick to play for

683
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: Mac at the stadium. Then.

684
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, but see that was like before I knew how,

685
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 6: you know, how everybody was and how the music business was.

686
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 6: So I didn't think it was you know, I'm used

687
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 6: to being on the streets in La playing the rock seat,

688
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 6: and you know, I'm used to saying, hey, will you

689
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 6: play drums for me tonight?

690
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 5: So I didn't know like that.

691
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 6: Was a big request, you know, because you asked Quest

692
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 6: to come fill in for you.

693
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 5: Are you? I was like, I mean, but I didn't know.

694
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: You know, that's the type of person I am. I

695
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: like working.

696
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 4: Can we talk about lessons because because Mazie you said

697
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 4: that your first time going on tour was with the Route,

698
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 4: so like, yeah, of course we know their ultimate showmen

699
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 4: and whatnot, But so what were some of the lessons

700
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 4: or things that you learned since that was your first experience.

701
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 6: Well, it was my first like real you know run

702
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 6: and uh we watched The Roots every night, so my

703
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 6: band was really I remember my band was really fascinated

704
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 6: with the Roots and they wanted to have that kind

705
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 6: of synergy.

706
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 5: And I remember that. And then I remember partying a lot.

707
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 5: You partied a lot because that was my first time

708
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 5: and now just went crazy?

709
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: Why not?

710
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 5: Yeah?

711
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 6: And I remember, you know, I remember drinking a lot

712
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 6: and just having a really good time. I don't know

713
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 6: if I was focused on learning, but my band was

714
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 6: like did you.

715
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 5: Totally like we actually know it was.

716
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 6: It actually taught us how to tour, like because that

717
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 6: was my first tour that I.

718
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 5: Learned how to go from city to city and get

719
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 5: on stage every night, and and uh, you know, you

720
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 5: learn you have to learn how to how to talk

721
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 5: to your crowd.

722
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 6: You know a lot of artists don't get that you

723
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 6: really have to have a conversation with because if you

724
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 6: just sat up there and sing.

725
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 5: And they're not engaged with.

726
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 6: Yes, I remember, uh, really learning about being with different

727
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 6: crowds because you play in New York, it's a different

728
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 6: crowd and when you go play and I don't know

729
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 6: Saint Louis, you know, so I.

730
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 5: Remember learning how to adjust.

731
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 6: I remember that was because that was my first time

732
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 6: I ever had to do that.

733
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: If I recalled correctly, Yeah, I think is did you

734
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: tell me that not that Epic wasn't your first choice?

735
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 1: But you you had a record deal before you signed

736
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: the Epic.

737
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

738
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 6: I was on Atlantic, uh like three years before my Epic.

739
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 5: Deal, but that never came out. Vow what was his name? No?

740
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 6: No, no, Val didn't sign me. He was the president

741
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 6: at the time. But the guy who signed me was

742
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 6: Tom Caroline.

743
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: Okay, I was thinking, and who's our guy social justice?

744
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 1: Craig Well not Craig Helman. Bred about Jason.

745
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 5: I met Jason. I met with Jason.

746
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 6: He turned me down. I met with him when he

747
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 6: had lava. Does he still have lava?

748
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: He still has lava?

749
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, he called me in though. He Jason was my

750
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 5: first record label meeting ever. Okay, okay, he heard he

751
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 5: got my demo tape.

752
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: So what what what happened in the Atlantic situation that

753
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: didn't work out that led you to Epic?

754
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 6: I got pregnant, I had and I and they didn't know,

755
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 6: and and and my A and R came to the

756
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 6: studio and and and then I got dropped like right

757
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 6: after Yo.

758
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: Remember they could not they could do that, but I

759
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: can't believe that for.

760
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 3: Decades, Like remember in the fifties and said, oh god no.

761
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: But even in the music world, like why why is

762
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: life over? Once? You know, I'm saying, like why would

763
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 1: life be over in terms of the record label saying, well, let's.

764
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 3: Drop because men, because men run labels.

765
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: There you go.

766
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 6: I mean, still most most artists have babies way later.

767
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 6: Actresses you know, a lot of girls don't want to

768
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 6: mess their body up, though it's not always true.

769
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 4: And why do they want to mess their body up

770
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 4: when they why is that?

771
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: That's just crazy to me that I mean, was that

772
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: their exact reason or did they make up an excuse?

773
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: I assuming they made up an excuse. Oh okay, that's

774
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: what you mean. That's they just told you like, okay,

775
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 1: well you're pregnant, so this is over, goodbye. That's the label.

776
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 10: They can't work you as much as they could. You

777
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 10: know that that's the thinking, you know what I mean.

778
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 10: They once you have a kid, it's like, oh, well,

779
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 10: whatever we had planned for you to touring and the

780
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 10: studio and the running back and forth just all the time.

781
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: You can't that's no longer a possibility.

782
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, But sir, if you just had a kid, come on,

783
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 4: let's go, because you know, you ain't got.

784
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: To stay home, you got to eat. Yeah, you got

785
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: to make that money. Exactly. So did you get when

786
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: you arrived that epic? How much control were you given

787
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: as far as the direction you wanted your project to go?

788
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 5: Not a lot.

789
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 6: I mean, I had we had written the songs, most

790
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 6: of the songs on that first album.

791
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 5: We were on my little demo tape that they heard

792
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 5: and then but they hired this producer and Andy Slater.

793
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: Oh Slater, okay, Yeah, So his.

794
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 6: Concept he wanted to do because my my, the demos

795
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 6: were strictly like beats and and you know, with you

796
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 6: know bass program, you know, so he wanted to do

797
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 6: His concept was to do an R and B record

798
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 6: with live instruments. And I had no idea what that

799
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 6: was all about. But I was just, you know, I

800
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 6: went with the floor. We had a lot of fights.

801
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 6: There was a lot of fights, me and him because

802
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 6: because I was used to things the way I wanted

803
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 6: it like I wanted a.

804
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 5: Tuba on one song and he had a fit. But really, yeah,

805
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 5: he just.

806
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,959
Speaker 6: You know he I think he had a really clear

807
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 6: vision and and I think he felt like he knew

808
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 6: what he was doing. So it was very you know,

809
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,959
Speaker 6: draining for me making that record. But once it was done,

810
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 6: you know, I liked it.

811
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 5: And then and then it grew on me. I really

812
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 5: I really liked it, you know, much later.

813
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: I'm really dismayed that they didn't put a lot of

814
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: muscle behind uh do something, because I always felt like

815
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: out the gate and again I heard do something that

816
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: her her cover of Outcasts get up, get out and

817
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: get something. I instantly heard that. I was like, oh,

818
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: this is gonna be across the board hit like this

819
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: is I can't I can't miss situation. And was it

820
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: just that, I mean they didn't know how to market

821
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: it or properly work it, or even get Outcasts to

822
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: do the remix or something like that. Like I just

823
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: felt like it was such an easy allue shot that

824
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: really didn't get maximized.

825
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was an interesting time because uh, okay, so

826
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 6: someone got that. Someone I don't know who put it

827
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 6: all together, but they felt like it was really important

828
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 6: for me to go or to go to the urban

829
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 6: audience first. They felt like if I if I skipped

830
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 6: over and went straight to I Try, I would I

831
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 6: wouldn't have that base or whatever. Like I said, this

832
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 6: is the time I knew nothing about the record business.

833
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 6: So they did put out do something first, but it

834
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 6: was kind of put out as a setup track for

835
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 6: them to just get me out there and then and

836
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 6: then and then they couldn't.

837
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 5: Wait to get on I Try.

838
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 6: So I don't know if they didn't give it the

839
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 6: time it needed or it was just you know, just

840
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 6: kind of set me up and get me in all

841
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 6: the papers and stuff, and then and then they went

842
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 6: on the I Try, and then that was that was that,

843
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 6: you know. So I don't I don't know, like I

844
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 6: didn't know, Like I said, I didn't know what was

845
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 6: going on. They were like, you know, show up on

846
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 6: forty second.

847
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 5: Street and I'll be there. I was. I was just

848
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 5: having fun, you know.

849
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'll say I Try. Well, now that it's

850
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: two decades old, what is your relationship with the song

851
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: do you? Is it a thing where it's like, okay,

852
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 1: I dreaded having to still do this this long into

853
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: my career. You are you comfortable with still people coming

854
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: up like, oh, that's my song or you know.

855
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 5: No, I love that song.

856
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 6: I just hate that. That's some people only know me

857
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 6: for that song.

858
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: I hate for that.

859
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hate that. But no, you know what though,

860
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 5: you guys, I still don't get it.

861
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 6: I know it sounds stupid, but like I do my

862
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 6: shows and people like still scream on that song.

863
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 5: They still get up there.

864
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 6: Not every word, every ad lib, every beat, we still

865
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 6: have to do it on the end. So you lost

866
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 6: your song because I still don't get what I buss

867
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 6: is by. I mean, it's a good song, but I

868
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 6: still don't get like classic song from twenty years I

869
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 6: had no.

870
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 5: If I wouldn't have ever put money on that.

871
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: No, my theory on I Try was in this Rich,

872
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: my manager, Rich and I had this conversation and we said,

873
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 1: if I Try as probably the best song that Al

874
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: Green could have maybe recorded or attempted to do in

875
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: the arts in ninety nine two thousand, if you were

876
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: allowed to like it, just it was a very I

877
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: don't know, it's like an authentic kind of you know

878
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 1: it was it was drifting, sort of an authentic soul

879
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: cloak that I think resonated with a lot of people,

880
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: and you know it and it took off, Like was

881
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: it was it exhausting at some point because you know,

882
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: there was some point where like literally every commercial, every

883
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: that record was everywhere it ran new book type of

884
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: romantic comedies like yeah, like in your in your head,

885
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: like what was so? What was that rush?

886
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: Like?

887
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: Once you hit jackpot, It's amazing.

888
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 6: You know, you get to see the world and everybody's

889
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 6: you know, sweating you and giving you free stuff, and

890
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 6: you know, you say boom and they get all excited, and.

891
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 5: You know, and you make a lot of money and

892
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 5: you know, people look up to you. It's cool. I don't.

893
00:46:54,320 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 6: I know, people complain about same, but I refuse.

894
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 5: Because I enjoyed it. I mean, it's there's other stuff,

895
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 5: you know.

896
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 6: That was the first time I like, you know, did

897
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 6: mushrooms and you know, stayed up for three days. I

898
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 6: mean a lot of stuff goes along with that. But

899
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 6: you know, I did a lot of shopping things I

900
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 6: couldn't buy it.

901
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: Before I had bought what's life like?

902
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 10: I was gonna ask you, if you talk about fame,

903
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 10: what's life like for you now? Is it still you know,

904
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 10: like crazy like that? Or are you able to go

905
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 10: to Trader Joe's in peace?

906
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: You know?

907
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 5: Uh?

908
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: Yeah?

909
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 6: You know what I find is when you roll out alone,

910
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 6: nobody really bothers you. But when people take out eight

911
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 6: bodyguards and they.

912
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: Say, oh, you're drawing attention.

913
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, but when you roll out, especially now in a mask,

914
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 6: even though it's crazy, people recognize me with a mask,

915
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 6: I don't get that.

916
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 5: So so but yeah, I'll go to the store all.

917
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 6: The time, and I mean it's cool, it's not. No,

918
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 6: it's not nearly as crazy as it used to be.

919
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 5: But I still tour a lot, and I love touring.

920
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 5: That's like my heaven.

921
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 4: How did you manage to maintain all of that and

922
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 4: then still be mommy to three babes?

923
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 5: Oh? You know, I just lock them in the closet

924
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 5: when I'm gone.

925
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: And I'm afraid to ask this question. How old is

926
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: Happy now?

927
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 5: Twenty three?

928
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 4: Yes?

929
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 3: Is that your oldest? Your youngest?

930
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 5: My youngest is twenty five, remember Ni bel.

931
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: Like in my mind your kids are still three.

932
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, she came home one of the drum set.

933
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 1: Happy is like a past college now.

934
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, she has one more year. She she took some

935
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 5: time off she's a photography major and she got an

936
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 5: internship and then and now she's going back to.

937
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 6: Finish and and it's online. It's such a drag. I

938
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 6: feel so bad for her. For students, so glad I'm

939
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 6: not in school, but they're.

940
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: Old old I'm sorry that threw me for y'all. I

941
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: wasn't ready for it, say, like fifteen fourteen, like, oh yeah, happy,

942
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: he's about to start in high school.

943
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 4: Have they been around during this COVID time? Like, are

944
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 4: you guys in vicinity close vitinities each other?

945
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 5: Yeah? At first when I first started, my my mother

946
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 5: was here.

947
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 6: My mother has cancer, so everybody was extra careful not

948
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 6: to really do too much. But now I don't know,

949
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 6: I don't know. It's hard to, you know, keep that up.

950
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 6: It's been a year, hard to sit around the house again.

951
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 4: And you know, you got generations z babies. I know

952
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 4: they were just like I'm going out.

953
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 5: Yeah I did.

954
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 6: I did tell them no company, you know, But now

955
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 6: you know, I've come home sometime and it's a little

956
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 6: you know, straight straight people.

957
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: Okay, So okay, Now I have a question mine of

958
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: your catalog And I'm not being biased like the I

959
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: was always my favorite, and of course I know about

960
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: the do you do you subscribe to the to the

961
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: the nine to eleven Jinks of of all those records

962
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,959
Speaker 1: in case I don't know, like there were at least

963
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: seventeen albums that were released between uh September eleventh, two

964
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: thousand and one and uh like the subsequent week like

965
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: September seventeenth, of which you know, because of where the

966
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: country was during that time period, you know, a lot

967
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 1: of albums just fell by the wayside, kind of just landed.

968
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: And with the exception of like the Blueprint, but you know,

969
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: everyone like Mariah's Glitter, like everything, movies, everything, did it

970
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: disappoint you that? Or you know, did Epic not at

971
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: least try to like do a re release or just

972
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: you know in time, like why did they just let

973
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: I thought that album was so brilliant and you know

974
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: it's due to unfortunate timing, but what were your feelings

975
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: of it at the time? And also why wasn't I'm

976
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: So Mad You Meet Shed a hidden track and not.

977
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 5: That was the Tuba track?

978
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 6: Dude, I don't want to get back to the Tuba

979
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 6: track I was telling you about.

980
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: That is my all time I still play shed in

981
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: my DJ sets now like shed my ship. But it

982
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: was a hidden track, So like, why why did they

983
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: at least try to revive it or did they just say, like, look,

984
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: just go back in the studio and start the what

985
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: was the next one? The trouble with being myself like

986
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: to start on that. But what was the what was

987
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: the situation at the time.

988
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think the label was disappointed. Like

989
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 6: I said, I was still chilling, you know not, but

990
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 6: people forget I sell most of my records overseas and

991
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 6: I sold four million copies that I Reckon in Europe

992
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 6: and the UK. But I know here there was kind

993
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 6: of a you know, what do you call it? Not

994
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 6: a letdown but anti cloud whatever, you know.

995
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: Because they hyped it up.

996
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 6: There you go, they hyped it up and it didn't

997
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 6: do as well as as they they wanted it to, but.

998
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 5: It did well.

999
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: I think if it weren't for nine to eleven, it

1000
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: would have been a different story. But yeah, I always

1001
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: rec Yeah, wait a minute, it just hit me. This

1002
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: is what I always wanted to know. Okay, So when

1003
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 1: you were promoting when you were promoting the id MHM,

1004
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: there was an interview and Vibe magazine. Do you guys

1005
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: remember this at all?

1006
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 3: Give me more. I'm waiting for it.

1007
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that it was. But I feel because the

1008
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: thing was because there wasn't because it wasn't social media,

1009
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, even though it was two thousand and one

1010
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: and we were like definitely living in uh social media

1011
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: esque times. But I just remember how people responded. I

1012
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: think Marco Marco Watson.

1013
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 5: Who I cannot believe you remember that. That is insane, dude.

1014
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: You know what my obsession is. I remember every attempted

1015
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: takedown article of any black artist that I ever, you know,

1016
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: loved or that sort of thing. So aux right M

1017
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: A R G E A U X. Well she I

1018
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: think she's a music executive now, but back when she

1019
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: was a journalist, I mean she did a Q and

1020
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: A with with Masie and Vibe, and I think that

1021
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: people were just like thrown off by the interview you and.

1022
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 6: But that she screwed me because she wasn't a cut

1023
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 6: and as she came over with my house, we hung

1024
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 6: out for two days. Right, I thought she was like

1025
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 6: my best friend by the time.

1026
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 5: It was.

1027
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I thought I'm telling.

1028
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 6: Her like like I just told y'all, you know, I

1029
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 6: went over. I did mushroom, you know, you know, I'll

1030
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 6: kissed somebody, you know what I mean. I'm talking to

1031
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 6: her like she's my girl, even though she wasn't. I

1032
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 6: was that could have been my mistake, and then she

1033
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 6: put it on in the article and I just I

1034
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 6: didn't know that she would do that. So that's just

1035
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 6: something I learned the hard way. But you know, you

1036
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 6: just can't be telling people stuff like that. But I

1037
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 6: didn't know. I gave her a proper interview, but she

1038
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 6: took all the stuff I told her off the record, Yeah,

1039
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 6: off the regular.

1040
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 5: I see, like she says, so have you ever blah

1041
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 5: blah blah, And I said, girl, you know.

1042
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: Right, it would have been like her talking just to

1043
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: you like you so but I could have been sister

1044
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: girl by thing. But instead, you know.

1045
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 6: But in her defense, she sent me the actual article

1046
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 6: that she wrote because I called her right away, and

1047
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 6: her whoever the editor was at the time, totally just

1048
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 6: picked out those parts because the article she wrote wasn't

1049
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 6: that bad like the things that were, you know, not

1050
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 6: so right, you know, so godly she.

1051
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: I know the editor too, and I got beef with

1052
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 1: her too, But I'll.

1053
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 5: Be nice, Yeah, she totally.

1054
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 6: I don't know why she came after me like that,

1055
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 6: but it it wasn't.

1056
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 5: All Marbo her article. I wish I still had it,

1057
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 5: I think I do.

1058
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 6: But her article wasn't that bad. Like if her article

1059
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 6: has been published, it wouldn't have been that bad, right.

1060
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: I see now. I always wanted to know, like what,

1061
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 1: because I knew like people were thrown off and then

1062
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: like you didn't hear anything about it, But I always

1063
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 1: wanted to know what you felt.

1064
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 6: Yes, So I begged my label to let me speak

1065
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 6: on it, and they thought if I if I said anything,

1066
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 6: I would bring attention to it. But I was like,

1067
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 6: everybody read it already.

1068
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: I don't know more attention.

1069
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 4: Would y'all just random question now that you said that,

1070
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,919
Speaker 4: I'm like, would y'all trade coming out then to now

1071
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 4: in a social media error?

1072
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 5: No?

1073
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 4: Okay, because I mean, if it was social media, you

1074
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,479
Speaker 4: could have just said what you needed to say, right,

1075
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 4: But yeah.

1076
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 5: No not.

1077
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 6: Because back in the back in the day, we made

1078
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 6: we made a lot more money. We had a lot

1079
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 6: more fun sitting here all that word about that posh

1080
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 6: like we was out partying, you know, having fun, selling records,

1081
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 6: you know.

1082
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 1: But I also think I don't think that there was

1083
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: anything that scandalous in the article. So I think in

1084
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: this particular case, if Twitter were a thing in two

1085
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: thousand and one, it probably, you know, probably could have

1086
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: been cleared instantly, whereas like because there was no explanation

1087
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: of it and just it was left out there in

1088
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: the you know, kind of there in the in the

1089
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: atmosphere that it just caused a lot of confusion at

1090
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: the time.

1091
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was that that really hurt me. That was

1092
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 6: I was down about that for a long time. It

1093
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 6: took me a while to get over that. Yeah, because

1094
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 6: you know, it's not always just she was like when

1095
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 6: your mom reads it, you know, right, and your family

1096
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 6: and and they're looking at you sideways, like girl.

1097
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: During this time period, you were you know, getting your

1098
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: your acting chops on. Mm hmm, especially with like I

1099
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: think you did Idle Wild, uh like a Want of Blues,

1100
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: you did Spider, then you did training especially training day.

1101
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: What was what was training day?

1102
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 5: Like?

1103
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 6: It was wild because Uh, okay, so I'm in the

1104
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 6: studio and that's my manager said, Antoine wants to stop

1105
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 6: by and meet you.

1106
00:57:59,240 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1107
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 6: I didn't really know who he was, and uh, I

1108
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 6: was like, okay, whatever, and then he goes, you know,

1109
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 6: I want you to be in my movie. So I thought,

1110
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 6: you know, someone was wrong with him because I don't

1111
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 6: have any acting background.

1112
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 5: I had no interest in acting.

1113
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 6: And then he goes, you know, let's so he hung

1114
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 6: out at the studio and then he said, let's go

1115
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 6: to a dinner tomorrow. So we went to mister Childs

1116
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 6: and he's sitting there. He's telling me all about his

1117
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 6: movie and then he says, you know, yeah, and uh,

1118
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 6: the guy who's playing this characters is Denzel Washington. So

1119
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 6: I was like, what you know? So then so then

1120
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 6: I got all into it. You know, then I was

1121
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 6: called my marriage. I was like, get I want to

1122
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 6: do that movie, and and then you know, I got

1123
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 6: serious about it eventually, but uh, at first, I was

1124
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 6: just you know, just putting my heart out because I

1125
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 6: had no skill or background in acting.

1126
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 5: So that was all heart, you know what I mean?

1127
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: That shining through.

1128
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 10: I really I really enjoyed watching you as as an actress,

1129
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 10: and I always wanted if you had plans to do more,

1130
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 10: because you really you really pop on screen.

1131
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 5: Thank you. But he's cool.

1132
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 6: I went to his trailer and he gave me some

1133
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 6: advice and he was very I forget the name of

1134
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 6: his character.

1135
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: What was his character's name, Scary, No, not Lonzo, it

1136
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: was Fronte is the most memorized, like walking I am

1137
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: d b every actor.

1138
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 5: For every character, but he was very much in character.

1139
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 5: He was like, it was like in his eyes it

1140
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 5: was kind of scary.

1141
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 3: What was his advice?

1142
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 5: He said, just if you don't know what to do,

1143
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 5: just just be you doing your part.

1144
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 3: It's what he does that's hilarious.

1145
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: So he had the same character that whole time to

1146
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:52,959
Speaker 1: not break it.

1147
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 5: Or Yeah, he was in the trailer like he had

1148
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 5: this look in his eyes. I'll never forget.

1149
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 6: I thought like he and he was watching Ken Burns

1150
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 6: documentary on was it on Felonious Monk And I think he.

1151
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: Felt like that.

1152
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 6: I think that's what his character would watch. But he

1153
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 6: had the whole set and he was just watching documentary

1154
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 6: at the documentary and his channel, which.

1155
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: Now which my relationship is based on Felonious Monks. Kim

1156
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: the Kim Burns Stalone's documentary.

1157
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 5: By the way, Yeah, that's wild because that's that's what

1158
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 5: he was watching.

1159
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 3: Training day was project number what for you?

1160
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 5: That was my first movie.

1161
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 4: Can I ask you about filming and Philly and doing

1162
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 4: shadow Boxer and their role and working with Lee Daniels. Yeah,

1163
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 4: that role that you played even in Dying.

1164
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 5: Just no, yeah, yeah, can.

1165
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 4: You talk about that and how that came about and

1166
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 4: what was it like doing Bad Way?

1167
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 5: It was the same Lee. Lee came to see me

1168
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 5: and that you know, that.

1169
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 6: Was Lee's first directing he had he had he had

1170
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 6: produced Monster's Ball, but that was his first directing.

1171
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,479
Speaker 1: And what's that the one he worked on with Damon

1172
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: Dash Yeah.

1173
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 5: Okay, Damon gave him the money. Yeah, and so.

1174
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: I've seen the clip I went.

1175
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 5: I went to a party with Lee and Lee is

1176
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 5: like he'll just walk up to people and say, I'm

1177
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 5: making a movie. This was way back when he was

1178
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 5: starting out. I'm trying to make this movie. You got

1179
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 5: their money, like seriously, like.

1180
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 4: All day.

1181
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: Yes, the original.

1182
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 5: Door he was me.

1183
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 6: He wouldn't care and I've never seen that before, no fear,

1184
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 6: and he raised the money.

1185
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: But that is very much a d Daniel's thing.

1186
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 3: That's my favorite.

1187
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 5: Yeah. Oh really wow, I just yeah, so we hit

1188
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 5: it off and then I did the movie.

1189
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 4: It's cool, but you didn't answer if asked, are you

1190
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 4: are you planning on getting jumping back into a little

1191
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 4: bit of acting. I know you've got an album you're

1192
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 4: working on and whatnot, but what about the acting.

1193
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1194
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 6: No, my record's coming out, and then I'm doing a

1195
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,959
Speaker 6: movie in October, and then I got a horror flick

1196
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 6: coming out in April.

1197
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 5: I did my first horror movie, really really with who

1198
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 5: assist this new girl? Her name is Jess Farley, just Varley.

1199
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 5: She's only twenty six. It's the first movie.

1200
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 3: Okay, I got a sick mind.

1201
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 5: It's actually pretty good a shot, really really good, Mace.

1202
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: I totally forgot one of my all time favorite moments

1203
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: with you in any medium. M you gotta tell me.

1204
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: I don't even know if you remember this or I

1205
01:02:55,800 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: don't even know if you know what how how viral

1206
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: this moment was. But do you have any memories whatsoever

1207
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: of the New Year's Eve night of twenty thirteen, that

1208
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: whole Jamie Kennedy thing with Bone Thugs and Harmony and

1209
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: you and whoever else was on that show. Have you

1210
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: guys ever seen this clip at all? This is a

1211
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: hell of a setup.

1212
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 2: If you don't remember what yeh? God?

1213
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there were midgets and like, no, you guys

1214
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: don't this you know again, was this two thousand? I

1215
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: think it was twenty eleven, twenty twelve, whatever it was.

1216
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: If the only way I can describe it is if

1217
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: if the white version of Funky Finger Productions from a

1218
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 1: living color, if they were allowed to throw Dick Clark's

1219
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: Rock and New Year's Eve Special, but kind of with

1220
01:03:55,560 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: a finesse of like Wayne's World, like public access. So

1221
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: it's one of the things where like, you know, the

1222
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: host doesn't know the cameras on him, and they'll be like,

1223
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: wat told the pitcher, give me some fried chicken. Huh oh, yeah,

1224
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of that. A fistfight breaks out

1225
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: on stage over two drunk girls, a bone you know,

1226
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: busy bone was in rare busy bone moment and if oh.

1227
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 6: You don't even know my band got robbed wait that night, Yeah,

1228
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 6: that's not even yeah, I.

1229
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: Was going to say it. Just just google Jamie Kennedy

1230
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve Special, Los Angeles and I'm good right now.

1231
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: It's one of the greatest. I think the version that's

1232
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: on the internet now is sort of a condensed like

1233
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: maybe six minute version, but the entire production is and

1234
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: like Macy counts down to midnight and it's still like

1235
01:04:54,120 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 1: maybe like eleven o four. She's like, it's like three

1236
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: two one, and the producers are like, no, Macy's not

1237
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: even midnight. He said, well, so just act like it's

1238
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: New Year's half and then you know, like it. It

1239
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: was so horrible that I knew that I knew it

1240
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: was like MacArthur MacArthur genius levels of just excellence. That's

1241
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: how bad it was. It was the best thing I've

1242
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: ever seen in my life.

1243
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 3: It's called a fail on a couple of the videos.

1244
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got it, you gotta watch it. I mean,

1245
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: I think I discovered after seeing if there were any

1246
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: more busy bone moments that need to be witnessed besides

1247
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 1: his uh, I'm saying this lightly his drunken rant, but

1248
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: box it wasn't alcohol.

1249
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 5: And they had us in the same dressing room.

1250
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 6: Well it was like a big room, but the room

1251
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 6: and there was like a little divider between us.

1252
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: So you weren't aware that this was like a highly

1253
01:05:58,440 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: viral movement for the internet.

1254
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 4: No, we are.

1255
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 5: First of all, we were super drunk. Everybody was drunk.

1256
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 5: But I didn't know.

1257
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 6: I've been drunk on New Year's even done shows great.

1258
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 6: I didn't know it was gonna go.

1259
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't the drunk part. Yes, there was a

1260
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 1: lot of drunk parts, but it was just like the

1261
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: the production was horrible. Everything was shanky, the you know,

1262
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: the jokes weren't landing. The host didn't know where he

1263
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: had to be, Like, it was horrible.

1264
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 5: It was horrible. I can't believe you remember that.

1265
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: It's my favorite thing to watch, Like I'll be say,

1266
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: three times a year, three times a year, I'll watched

1267
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: that ship. Do you have do you have memories of

1268
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: of doing the fail Out Project with us?

1269
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 3: I do.

1270
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 5: I tell everybody about that. That was another time and

1271
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 5: you just called me up and you're like, hey, come down,

1272
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 5: and you know, you know nowadays when people say that

1273
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 5: you gotta call your manager and you got to.

1274
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 6: Your assistant hester but it was just like okay, and

1275
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 6: I came down and we did it. And that's the

1276
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 6: night I met the Angelo, and I'm.

1277
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: Now considered that the last night of Voodoo, Like, yeah,

1278
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: that was close chapter of it. But he was really impressed,

1279
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: like he knew he knew of you. But you know,

1280
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: I think after the session, when you and him did

1281
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: the vocal session together. Yeah, he hit me up like, yo, man, yo,

1282
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: I really fucks with her, man, I don't know, I

1283
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 1: know that, Like he was really he I think he

1284
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: was like kicking himself that he didn't at least jump

1285
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 1: on the bandwagon before or what you know, like two

1286
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: years earlier, because I mean this was two thousand now,

1287
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 1: But like he was really kicking himself that he didn't

1288
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 1: pay attention in ninety eight when he should have been

1289
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: paying attention, Like he didn't realize, like yo, like she

1290
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 1: has chops, like I fox with it like that.

1291
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 5: But yeah, but then I never heard from him again.

1292
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 5: He was like, yeah, there's too someone and I never heard.

1293
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, his next album came out fifteen

1294
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: years later, so.

1295
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 3: I'm not.

1296
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 5: I've never talked about that.

1297
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: Can you talk about working with why did why did

1298
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: you choose Dallas Austin when you did the trouble with

1299
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 1: being myself out and like what how was your working

1300
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: relationship with him in the studio?

1301
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 5: So that was that was different. That was the first time,

1302
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 5: like Polly poly Anthony, she was ahead of the label

1303
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 5: and I know probly passed.

1304
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:38,719
Speaker 2: Poly Anthony.

1305
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, wow, I.

1306
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: Didn't know that ship. Oh damn, I didn't know that fun. Yeah, damn,

1307
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you hear that. No, was the chance like

1308
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: the last of the last of I won't say the Mohicans,

1309
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 1: but definitely the lasted damn.

1310
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 6: So she had me like meat producers, like, because my

1311
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 6: first two albums, I just decided who I wanted, and

1312
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 6: well Andy kind of came in. But but it wasn't

1313
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 6: a choice, she said, and he's going to produce your record.

1314
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 6: And then I was like, okay, so, but this is

1315
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 6: the first time I like set with producers and they

1316
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 6: played me.

1317
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 5: Stuff and.

1318
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 6: On this record with Andy, No, No, I mean, he's

1319
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 6: a great but we just fought. It was too much

1320
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 6: like Firelight far all the time. So I met with Dallas,

1321
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 6: and Dallas was like he just kept talking about how

1322
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 6: much he loved, you know, the songs that.

1323
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 5: I had and blah blah blah. He's kind of juiced

1324
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 5: me up and I felt for it. It's like, okay,

1325
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 5: that was it?

1326
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: Was it? Was it not?

1327
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 10: Was it not a pleasant experience or were you not

1328
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 10: pleased with the outcome of those songs that y'all did together?

1329
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 5: No, we we have fun. He's hard to it's hard

1330
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 5: to get him to sit. You know, he's very we

1331
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 5: were much.

1332
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 6: Younger at the time, so we both just had a

1333
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 6: lot going on and so it was cool we got

1334
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,719
Speaker 6: it done, but I think he got.

1335
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 5: Upset with me because some of his ideas I didn't like.

1336
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 6: And you know, there's always a first So that was

1337
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 6: like the first time I had been in with.

1338
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 5: Somebody like him, and and I didn't you know, like

1339
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 5: now I would handle it totally differently.

1340
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: And also thing with single choices, man like for that

1341
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 1: album like Come Together, I felt it would have been

1342
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 1: the song.

1343
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 5: And you know, oh my god, the fact that you

1344
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 5: know that song is so.

1345
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: May see, I'm an actual fan of yours, Like I'm

1346
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 1: not just like, oh yeah, I know her and she's

1347
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,560
Speaker 1: singing as I try, like, I know your entire discography,

1348
01:10:55,600 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 1: trust me about stuff. Well then okay, so what I well,

1349
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: first of all, shortly before she pat well, I mean

1350
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: she passed in twenty sixteen. But what was it like

1351
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: working with Natalie Cole? I know that she was on

1352
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 1: you used her on the big album? Yeah, what was

1353
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 1: it like? But even more than that, I gotta know,

1354
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: what's it like working with Ron Fair? Like in my

1355
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: mind and I hope, I hope. I don't get you know,

1356
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 1: don't you don't ever want to rock the boat of

1357
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: Ron Fair or Jimmy Iving when you talk about them.

1358
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: But you know, Ron always when I think of like

1359
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: when they talk about like a suit, you know, like

1360
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: when there's a suit in the room and people like

1361
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: trying to be creative, like that's Ron and Ron, like

1362
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 1: he infamously told Will I Am. This is when Will

1363
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 1: was pondering whether or not to put Fergie in the

1364
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 1: group or not, and Ron says, well, you know, look,

1365
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: I know you guys have your fantasies of being like

1366
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 1: the Roots, but you know you could either be like

1367
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 1: the roots or you can win and sell some units.

1368
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: What do you want to do? And I know, but

1369
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 1: I'm not offended because that that's how Ron. Ron's just

1370
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 1: cutting dry, like yeah, yeah, he always gives you his

1371
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 1: unsolicited opinion, like if you guys just had a girl

1372
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: in the group, and you know, you guys would win too.

1373
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 1: And I'm trying to tell him, like, you know, just

1374
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 1: winning isn't just like that's not my life goal just

1375
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 1: to win that sort of thing. But what was it

1376
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 1: like working with him on this album?

1377
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 6: He's very you know, precise, and you know everything is

1378
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,640
Speaker 6: really big orchestral.

1379
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 5: And thought out and stuff like that, and you know

1380
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 5: he's run fair.

1381
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 6: He was always really nice to me. I hear a

1382
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 6: lot of horror stories, but he was always really nice

1383
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 6: to me.

1384
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 5: I don't know, but you know I did. I Will

1385
01:12:58,600 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 5: did that.

1386
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: Label. I didn't know how much he produced it. There

1387
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 1: there's one joint on there that I there's one joint

1388
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 1: on there I loved called okay, And I always wanted

1389
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 1: to know if the Neptune had anything to do with

1390
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 1: that or.

1391
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 5: Justin Timberlake wrote that song.

1392
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: There you Go Okay. I felt there was like at

1393
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 1: least a one degree to Pharrell and then by the

1394
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 1: way the bridge sounded and all that, I was like,

1395
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: you know this, but you know, because we were past

1396
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: the CD era, I never once looked up the credits

1397
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 1: and whatnot.

1398
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 10: So Masie, I wanted to always to ask you about

1399
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 10: the song love Won't Wait off the Black Eyed Peas

1400
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 10: first album that was. That was my favorite song on

1401
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 10: that album and I loved your performed song. Do you

1402
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 10: have any memories of doing that song?

1403
01:13:52,960 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: The session for it? It's always honest.

1404
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 3: In your mind.

1405
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 4: Do you have memories like the favorite Cowboy collaboration moments though,

1406
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 4: because you've done so many, I mean even a mere

1407
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 4: asking for about Nighty Cole, I forget, Like I forgot

1408
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 4: all about that. But are there some memorable ones in

1409
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 4: your head to stick out the most?

1410
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 5: Stick out the most?

1411
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 6: Probably I was I did a record with Robin Think

1412
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 6: and then he left to go out to dinner and

1413
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 6: he never came back.

1414
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 1: Speaking of.

1415
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 4: Record, and y'all never spoke after that ever.

1416
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 6: I mean I run into him, but okay, and it

1417
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 6: was it was a Ryan Fair record, which supposed to

1418
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 6: do and it just never came back.

1419
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 1: Oh record you you you gave? I think you you gave.

1420
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:54,759
Speaker 5: Uh.

1421
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: He gave hip Boy one of his first looks, like

1422
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 1: how did you How did you cheer him? Especially before

1423
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, his his blow with niggas in Paris and

1424
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: all the other stuff that he did.

1425
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was.

1426
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 5: At the record plant.

1427
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: I was.

1428
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 6: I was at the record plant and he was with

1429
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 6: I forget, but he came in my room and he

1430
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 6: just said, hey, you know, I'm a producer and you know,

1431
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 6: blah blah blah. And then I'll call him to see

1432
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 6: what he had.

1433
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,879
Speaker 5: And we worked together, you know, Okay, he was just hustling.

1434
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 5: But I always I keep my EyeT for like, I

1435
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 5: listened to everything, like people come up to me and

1436
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 5: because you just never know, you know what I mean,

1437
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 5: So people want to play me stuff. I said, then,

1438
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 5: and listen, you just.

1439
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 3: Said that out loud.

1440
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 4: You really mean it because you know, I mean so

1441
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 4: she just said that out loud. So I mean, if

1442
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 4: it wasn't happening before, now people are listening like, okay, cool,

1443
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 4: I feel comfortable just handed me.

1444
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 5: But that's how I met for Pharrell. Actually, and I

1445
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 5: did a record with Farel.

1446
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,600
Speaker 6: He was nineteen and nobody knew who he was, not

1447
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 6: really he did.

1448
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 5: It was me and Guru, I could call it.

1449
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,560
Speaker 10: It was on the it was all I said. It

1450
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 10: was all I said. All I said, I forgot one

1451
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 10: the streets, so three of the streets Soloe it was

1452
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 10: the one was certified.

1453
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 1: I was about I forgot you were on that record.

1454
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1455
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 6: I was like, they were like, there's this new kid,

1456
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 6: and I mean, you know, and I went to the studio.

1457
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 5: And it came out cool. He was out but not

1458
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 5: like he wasn't frail yet.

1459
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, just he still had the mustache. Yeah, yeah, still

1460
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 1: the mustache. I always wanted to know this, and I've

1461
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 1: never heard this before, But how what was the what

1462
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 1: was the idea of covering the entire Talking Book album

1463
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,520
Speaker 1: by Stevie Wonder? Whose idea was that?

1464
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:03,560
Speaker 5: That was? Okay, you know how how Wilner, he's the

1465
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 5: he's I know, yeah, me too, I love him. So

1466
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 5: he had this idea. He was like, nobody's ever covered

1467
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 5: the whole album, and and then he had some ideas

1468
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 5: and one and then and Talking Book is like the

1469
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 5: one album I know backwards and forwards. I know every word,

1470
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 5: every beat.

1471
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

1472
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 6: So we did that when I was on this little

1473
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 6: label and I could do whatever I want, So we

1474
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 6: just we just won the seal dance. But then you

1475
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 6: follow the house though everybody's plugged in, and.

1476
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 1: But then you followed it up with another cover album, Like,

1477
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 1: what was the the logic behind that just get covered?

1478
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,799
Speaker 1: Was at least half covered? Was covered? All covered songs?

1479
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 5: Or just no, it was all It was all covers, Okay, some.

1480
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 1: That were obvious hit singles and some that were like

1481
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 1: cool album cuts.

1482
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 6: And yeah, I was on this little label and and

1483
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 6: my manager didn't think I should give them any big

1484
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 6: records or something. I mean that I probably shouldn't have

1485
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 6: announced that book.

1486
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 1: The whole goal was to shoot your shot, like no

1487
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 1: matter what.

1488
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, no not in some In some cases you should

1489
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 5: shoot your shot. Not always. But but.

1490
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 6: There was this little label and and my my manager

1491
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 6: didn't think they were capable of, like, you know, properly

1492
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 6: promoting a song, and so he was like, it's just

1493
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 6: too covers and then let's get up out of there,

1494
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 6: and so we'll just covered. But some of my favorite

1495
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 6: songs of mine are on are on that record. I

1496
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 6: know I shouldn't have said that.

1497
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 3: No, it's it's just honesty.

1498
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 5: I take it back, I take it back, give me

1499
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 5: another excuse.

1500
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 4: Still talk some good songs. It don't really matter, it's

1501
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 4: like good. I was like, I'm going down on this covered.

1502
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 4: I didn't even know about that.

1503
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 5: No cover, some good records on it.

1504
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 1: Of your canon, what's your favorite out them?

1505
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 5: Uh, probably definitely my first one to d and then

1506
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 5: my last one I love.

1507
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 6: I did an album called I Think It's Yeah, Ruby's

1508
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 6: good album.

1509
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 1: Someone called that returned to four. Is there anyone that

1510
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 1: you've yet to work with that you would like to I.

1511
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 5: Actually got the song on my new album, I want

1512
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 5: you to play, and I was gonna send it to.

1513
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 1: You, send it to me, give her your emails.

1514
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 4: And is that the one that I think Susie sent

1515
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 4: us to Spotify?

1516
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 6: Is that it's not it's not a it's really actually

1517
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:38,600
Speaker 6: like a like a breakdown in the song and you

1518
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 6: kind of.

1519
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 5: Just do some solo ship.

1520
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 4: Okay, it's out right right, Mae, it's out the song

1521
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 4: you talk.

1522
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 5: About, No, not the song for a quest.

1523
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 6: But there's a song okay, so everybody listens stream a

1524
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 6: song called thinking of You, and then there's a song

1525
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 6: out called Deer America.

1526
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 5: Because we're setting up my album, because is this.

1527
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 4: The first time you're doing it? Correct if I'm wrong

1528
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 4: a jazz record.

1529
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 5: No, I've done a jazz record.

1530
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 6: This is at my first minute. So my I've been

1531
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 6: with my touring band for about five years. So we

1532
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 6: decided to be official so called Macy Gray in the

1533
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 6: California Jet Club.

1534
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 1: Go ahead, ask.

1535
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 3: Where did that name come from?

1536
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 5: It's really boring. So we all live in California. We

1537
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 5: fly a lot's club.

1538
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 6: I don't know, I didn't come up with I would

1539
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 6: have came up with some way better. No, it's cool,

1540
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,480
Speaker 6: but so yeah, thinking of you. If you go on Spotify,

1541
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 6: you look up Macy Gray in the California Jet Club.

1542
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 5: You guys would love Dear America. That's my favorite. But

1543
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 5: it's a good record.

1544
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 1: Okay, damn you know what? I did have one question

1545
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 1: about whose idea was it to do the stripped album

1546
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:57,799
Speaker 1: the way you did it? Steve? What's what's the technical

1547
01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:59,600
Speaker 1: term I'm looking for? Do you remember.

1548
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 2: By normal?

1549
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 1: How did you know before I even ask? Because nevermind,

1550
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 1: forget it, this is why we quest love supre But yeah,

1551
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: what was the what was the decision to make it

1552
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: by a normal? Which I assume that it was basically

1553
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 1: two strategically placed microphones in the room? Oh, just one microphone.

1554
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: The Cowboy Junkies first did this idea? Correct? I believe

1555
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 1: were they infamously went to this church to record this album.

1556
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 1: But yeah, you placed one microphone perfectly in the center

1557
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 1: of the room, and I guess each musician has to

1558
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 1: fall in proximity to that microphone so that the balance

1559
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 1: is perfect and you all play at the same time.

1560
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 5: We did out of church in Brooklyn.

1561
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 1: Okay, it's like an audio version of Dogma ninety five,

1562
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 1: Like it's it's it's a challenging sound to achieve. But

1563
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: was that your idea or just your producer at the time.

1564
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 5: Or No, there's a Cheskey Records. Do you know nor

1565
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,679
Speaker 5: I mean Cheskey, No, I don't.

1566
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 6: He owns a jazz label called Cheskey Records, and he

1567
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 6: does most of the albums on his label like that, okay,

1568
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 6: because there's no there's no mix, of course, and you

1569
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 6: get it all done in two days, like you go

1570
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 6: rehearse and then you go and.

1571
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 5: You cut it.

1572
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 6: But it's back in the day, I mean one of

1573
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 6: the most of the old records cut like that alone. Yeah, no,

1574
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 6: but I love it, love the way it sounds, and

1575
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 6: I love the way that record sounds. But yeah, we

1576
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 6: all got in kind of a what do you call it,

1577
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 6: like a U shape around the mic, and we cut

1578
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 6: half of it one day and the next day we

1579
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 6: cut the other half. I'm sitting there thinking I'm gonna

1580
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 6: go back and do my vocals over so because I

1581
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 6: wasn't like it just didn't hit me like you.

1582
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 5: This is it.

1583
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 1: Oh you didn't know it's final.

1584
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 5: It was. It's really final.

1585
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 6: That's the only thing that would be cool for the roots,

1586
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 6: though you guys would kill that.

1587
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 3: Oh God, something you'll haven't done.

1588
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 1: I would love to, but I don't know sonically we

1589
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 1: can achieve that.

1590
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 5: But you know, I mean no, there's people that the

1591
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 5: people that know how to do that with will hook

1592
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 5: it up for you.

1593
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:22,440
Speaker 7: Steve Let's real engineer would would know how to do that.

1594
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 1: Before before I.

1595
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 5: Wrap up, yes, we got to talk about my goods.

1596
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, the charity.

1597
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 1: Can I get that question out?

1598
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 8: Okay, we beat you to the spot, right, that's a

1599
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 8: sports term, the spot to the spot.

1600
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1601
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 5: I have a question. I have a question. What is

1602
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 5: that on your shoulder that's driving me crazy? What is

1603
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 5: that for me?

1604
01:23:55,720 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 1: Steve shoulder? That is oh wow, Dean Ricky. They make

1605
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 1: those lego hearts for me. Now they're making a Donuts line.

1606
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 5: But did the jacket come like that and you put

1607
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 5: that on there?

1608
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: No, No, I just put it on the jacket because

1609
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 1: this is green and the jacket's green.

1610
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 3: So you know, forgetting to go to the Instagram page. Okay,

1611
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 3: every time.

1612
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 1: I thought it was I thought it was too No,

1613
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 1: it's a Donuts.

1614
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 3: They dope brothers though. Yeah, I'm glad to be a

1615
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 3: rock dad.

1616
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 1: They make awesome brooches.

1617
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:33,719
Speaker 2: You should rock the bagel one bill.

1618
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 4: Saying.

1619
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 1: They just they just hit me three weeks ago. They're

1620
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 1: sending me a locks and bagel. They they actually paired

1621
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 1: up with uh, some high end Brooklyn deli to do

1622
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 1: locks and bagel. So they're going to send me one.

1623
01:24:51,439 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 1: So I'll rocket for you, or or I'll ask you

1624
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: permission rock and rocket. Yeah, but what what I was

1625
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 1: asking you, Mace, was about my Good dot org. Could

1626
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 1: you explain sort of the process of you starting this foundation?

1627
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 6: So My Good is, Uh, what we do is we

1628
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 6: support the families who've lost loved ones due to police violence.

1629
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 6: M that we come in and help with funeral costs,

1630
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:36,679
Speaker 6: a lot of medical bills, mental health services, a lot

1631
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 6: of families, you know, they get sold down and depressed,

1632
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 6: they lose everything. So we've had to get a couple

1633
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 6: of moms, uh housing. It's I think, you know, people

1634
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 6: get all into their opinion of it and you forget

1635
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 6: that someone's actually living the death, someone's death. You know,

1636
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 6: lost a kid, you know what I mean. And so

1637
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 6: so that's that's what we do. It just started in

1638
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 6: July and and I'm really proud of it. You know,

1639
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 6: we want to make a difference. We want to help

1640
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:09,919
Speaker 6: change laws and stuff like that. But it's it's mostly

1641
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 6: financial support because of what the families go through after

1642
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:16,919
Speaker 6: especially you know, you hear about all the court cases.

1643
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 6: I mean that's lawyers, lawyers and all kinds of I mean,

1644
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 6: you have no idea what they go through. A lot

1645
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 6: of a lot of you know, moms and dads break

1646
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 6: up after there's been suicides.

1647
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:31,759
Speaker 5: A lot of.

1648
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 6: Families fall into like addiction and stuff like that. So

1649
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 6: so we're just there to help people get back on

1650
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 6: their feet and help them get through it.

1651
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 1: And people can go to it's my good dot org

1652
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 1: m y g o O D dot org.

1653
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, you go there, you donate, or you can go

1654
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 5: on the email if you want to be a part

1655
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 5: of it and just support and stuff like that. But

1656
01:26:57,720 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 5: we're doing good.

1657
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 6: I mean it's new, so so it's just coming together,

1658
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 6: but we're doing good. We're gonna make a documentary and

1659
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 6: we have our own shoe coming out.

1660
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 3: Your own Shoe.

1661
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:12,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're gonna sell shoes to help raise money for

1662
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 6: the foundation.

1663
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 5: They're pretty deep.

1664
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody sells yo.

1665
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, they like sneakers or they like a little slippings.

1666
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, Yeah.

1667
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 3: The website.

1668
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you. I saw the the interview

1669
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 1: you did on on on Oprah. Oh god, I wanted no, no, no, no,

1670
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 1: it was it was. It was amazing to see that.

1671
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 1: But what I want to know is, in sort of

1672
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 1: in the pandemic, how how have you been handling uh

1673
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 1: staying clear and staying focused and kind of well sober.

1674
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 1: I guess you could say, how how have you been

1675
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 1: handling it?

1676
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 5: I haven't. I'm sucked up right now. I'm just kidding, okay,

1677
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 5: so let me see.

1678
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 1: Let me send the show.

1679
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 5: But my mother was here that kept me in line.

1680
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 5: I mean, not that I don't have h I got.

1681
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 6: I got away from that, so I'm proper healthy and

1682
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 6: a lot more mature now. But my mother made us

1683
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 6: all be good while she was here, that's for sure.

1684
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 6: And then and then I started working on my record,

1685
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 6: so I was always in the studio. And then you know,

1686
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,639
Speaker 6: like that binge watch like everybody else, and I learned

1687
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 6: how to cook and all that bullshit.

1688
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 1: But it wasn't that OR learned other things to cook.

1689
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,759
Speaker 5: I can I could cook better. To put it that way,

1690
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:41,679
Speaker 5: I like, like I got all.

1691
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 6: Into my spices and my season and stuff. Stuff I

1692
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 6: had never really worried about before.

1693
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 3: Seasons and spices.

1694
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 5: You know, before you just make a hamburger. You flipped

1695
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 5: a couple of times and put some barbecue sauce. Now

1696
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 5: I'm all into, you know, leming them and put a

1697
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 5: little of this because it was nothing. Yeah, the rubs.

1698
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 5: I didn't even know what a rub was before, ye know.

1699
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 1: You like, I've been paying a lot of attention to

1700
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 1: the spice cabinet, way like, way more than I normally have,

1701
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, cinnamon and lemon pepper to reach word.

1702
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 3: But I bought some black garlic the other day.

1703
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 1: Let's go damn salt.

1704
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:29,839
Speaker 4: Everything, treffle oil, garlic oil, all the oils, all the everything.

1705
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, because there was nowhere else to go but the

1706
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 5: grocery store. Everybody got into like, you know, let's get

1707
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 5: some black garlic.

1708
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 3: I ain't yet, but you know it's there.

1709
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:44,639
Speaker 5: Let me see what this is. There's some rub over there.

1710
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:48,679
Speaker 6: I started, like, you know how they have the self checkout,

1711
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 6: you know before I was way too boogie for that,

1712
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 6: Like I'm not checking out?

1713
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 5: Are you kidding me?

1714
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 4: Now?

1715
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 5: I just go to self checkout. This is something that

1716
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:05,760
Speaker 5: is an hour just bagging my little grocery just like

1717
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 5: the highlight of my day. It's horrible a.

1718
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 3: Self self checkout question. Ain't nobody ever just you know,

1719
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:12,760
Speaker 3: not put it across the.

1720
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:23,640
Speaker 10: Bar, like yo, okay, Steve looked me right at that

1721
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 10: point in my life, Steve, I'm ready, I'm looking Steve,

1722
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 10: look me in the eye right now, he'll know we're

1723
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 10: now fourth floor?

1724
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 1: How honest are you.

1725
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 5: The way.

1726
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 2: Fourth floor?

1727
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 5: Steve?

1728
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:39,639
Speaker 1: Thirty?

1729
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 2: No, I know, I know what you're talking about. That

1730
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 2: vending machines there were food in them.

1731
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:47,719
Speaker 1: But I've now it's a level of trust on the floor,

1732
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 1: a thirty rock that I've never seen.

1733
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 10: It's so that I purposely like, don't tell me more,

1734
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 10: just to not just to offset the niggas is still.

1735
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, because on the fourth floor there's just a complete,

1736
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 1: like grocery store that's just isolated, Like if I wanted to,

1737
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 1: I could just grab like sixteen yogurts if I wanted

1738
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 1: to or whatever, and.

1739
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:17,160
Speaker 2: A lot to carry.

1740
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 1: And I'm like, wait, they trust us to do this,

1741
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 1: Like I could literally just walk out here with an

1742
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:23,560
Speaker 1: entire refrigerator of how do you pay for it?

1743
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 2: Aren't you supposed to pay for it?

1744
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 1: No? You're paid. They they trust that you will be

1745
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 1: honest and paid for it, which I know they're not watching.

1746
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 2: Oh actually wow, But.

1747
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wanted to know if you ever have

1748
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 1: the temptation to just like it, you know.

1749
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 3: And target every once and again.

1750
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 1: Well, I believe in. So that's why I'm not done.

1751
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 3: Y'all get on my nerves, dude.

1752
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 1: It's real, right, You're right, right, it's real. It comes back.

1753
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:56,719
Speaker 3: I'll take those earrings back.

1754
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 1: Anywhow may see you're man.

1755
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 10: I was gonna say for you wrap a mere Basically,

1756
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 10: there's a connection I have, Well, you have with two

1757
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 10: bandmates of mine. I sing in a band called the

1758
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:15,720
Speaker 10: Foreign Exchange and one of my bandmates that I sing with,

1759
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:16,760
Speaker 10: Carmen Rogers.

1760
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 1: She did a this is back in two thousand and one.

1761
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 10: She was working for a high end like this high

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Speaker 10: end design firm in Dallas or whatever, and they had

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Speaker 10: like a Christmas party or whatever, and they her boss

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Speaker 10: thought it would be a cool idea for her to

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Speaker 10: imitate Macy Grey, because she does she still does, like

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Speaker 10: a really good Macy Gray personation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so her boss was like, Okay, I think

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Speaker 1: this would be cool. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Do it.

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Speaker 10: So at the time, Karma had a big red fro

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Speaker 10: and she went and they go into the party whatever,

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Speaker 10: and they really thought it was her, so people start.

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Speaker 1: Crying and hypervent leadership.

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Speaker 10: They eventually had to rush her out the fucking building

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Speaker 10: because they really thought so. She just wanted me to

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Speaker 10: just tell you that. Hell and also and also a

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Speaker 10: very a very dear friend, Cy Smith.

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Speaker 1: You, she just told me.

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Speaker 10: She was just telling you to tell you, say what's up.

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Speaker 10: She said, it was a blast to one with you

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Speaker 10: and she just wanted me to see you some love.

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Speaker 6: Yes, well, sEH, I thank you for thank ye, thank

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Speaker 6: you for for doing this with us.

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Speaker 3: Your patience is amazing. Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Don't forget to check out. She was here.

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Speaker 1: She was here at like six thirty.

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Speaker 4: She telling people like y'all arete the gold, tell them

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Speaker 4: to wrap this ship.

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Speaker 3: Like you know, she just roll with us.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that's what's up, okay, keeping us hons No, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but thank you, thank you for doing the show. And

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Speaker 1: we we appreciate and we're fans of yours and we

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Speaker 1: love you on behalf of Laya and Sue, Steve and

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Speaker 1: paid Bill Fine, take a little my name is quest

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Speaker 1: Love and another episode of quest Love Supreme. Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much. See I'm the next an yo.

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 1: This is fante.

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