1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome to move the sticks DJ Bucky 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: together here Buck. It's it's the studio, man, I haven't 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: been here in so long. I don't want need directions 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: to figure out how to get around in here. But 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: it's nice to be back in the friendly confines of 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: NFL Media Group. You're gonna join me, We're gonna like 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: bring the forces together. But then l A did an 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: l A thing, and you get traffic, you get an accident, 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: and so so it's not even not only an accident, 11 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 1: it's like a major accident where you had a car 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: overturned in the middle of the four or five, so 13 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: they shed the freeway. So when i'm uh text in 14 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: the bill, this is before I even know that the shutdown, 15 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: I just know it's an accident. Completely shut down. Wasn't opening. 16 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: So uh it worked out they were able to do 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: it off home cam and you being in the studio. 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: But I got a chance to be in the podcast 19 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: studio yesterday, so we kind of get the shared experience. Yeah, 20 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: we're ships passing in the night here. That's all right though, Uh, 21 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a little bit of a shorter show 22 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: today and I'll just a full transparency um and don't 23 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: be jealous, but I'm gonna go watch the pot Rais 24 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: in the NLC, yes today, So I gotta get back 25 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: down to some day, go for that buck. I know, 26 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: if you knew that, if you knew the Dodgers lost 27 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: there and they're out by the way, they're no longer playing. 28 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know that. But I think who. 29 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: I don't even know who they're playing, who playing in 30 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: the Phillies. I don't even know who's left. Who's left 31 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: the fighting fighting Colleen Wolves, that's why she hasn't heard 32 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: from me, but she will if assuming that Potter's actually win, 33 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. If not, I'll be really quiet, 34 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: you know me. I am noticing a trend when it 35 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: comes to the baseball stuff. I'm noticing that all the 36 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: teams that did poorly during the regular season, of the 37 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: ones that still playing, because they played those extra games 38 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: and so maybe they got hot. So maybe it is 39 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: value in finishing down to the bottom so you can 40 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: play a bunch of games and get your rhythm going. Well, 41 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: you know what's funny, but taking time. I was thinking 42 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: about this. I was thinking about the other day, I 43 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: believe was last year the Dodgers were a wild card 44 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: because they lost the division to the to the Giants, 45 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: and I don't remember anybody saying it was some huge 46 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: advantage for the Dodgers having the wild card. But then 47 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: it's funny, you know, the Dodger win the division and 48 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: now it's like, whoa, these are two car teams. It's 49 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: a different way. Now different, it's a different it's a 50 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: different playoff format. Five. It's not like it took two 51 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: weeks off. No no, no, no no no no no no 52 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: no no, no, no no. It's a different format. This 53 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: is a different format. Two best out of three, best 54 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: out of five, best out of seven, different format. I'm 55 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: not look, I'm not I'm not saying that's why they lost. 56 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, there's something to being in the 57 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: toilet bowld and working your way out of it. You 58 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: know what they say about excuses book, it's not for 59 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: this podcast, you know what. You know what that's saying is, 60 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: all right, here's what we're doing today. We're gonna talk 61 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: about that Monday night game, which was uh, not easy 62 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: on the eyes, I guess would be a nice way 63 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: to say it. Between the Broncos and the Chargers. The 64 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: Chargers he got to win and overtime. That will hit 65 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: on that one. We're also going to talk about Dreck Woolan, 66 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: who has been unbelievable this year. Let's go back in 67 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: the time machine talk about what we thought of him 68 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: coming out through the draft process. The same with Justin Jefferson. 69 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: You've got a great article out on some rugg running backs. 70 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna hit on that as well as a quick 71 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: preview of the Saints Cardinals Thursday night matchup that's coming 72 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: up on Amazon Prime Video. So let's start off what 73 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: you saw last night. I don't know how much of 74 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: it you got to see. Buck calling that game was ugly, um, 75 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: but I want to preface that. I want to preface 76 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: that by saying, uh, the Chargers won, and you gotta 77 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: win some of these ugly games. Me and Money we're 78 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: talking about that on the broadcast, But I came away 79 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: from that. My biggest takeaway from that not Russell Wilson 80 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: and how bad that was in the second half. My 81 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: biggest takeawo with it Denver Broncos defense is I think 82 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: it might be the best defense in the NFL. I'm 83 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: not hyperbole from everybody I've seen this year. It's the 84 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: best defense I've seen this year in person, by far. 85 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: And the crazy thing about it is they're they're wasting 86 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: the defense and they're wasting the performance. The defense is 87 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: everyone under twenty points. Uh, they cannot get a dub. 88 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: It is unbelievable when you look at it, and I'll 89 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: say this DJ in a way, they're they're doing it 90 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: without like significant star power, Like when you look at 91 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: their team, like, yeah, Bradley Chubb was a top pick, 92 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: Pastor Tan was the top scally. I mean, but man, 93 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: these dudes are just getting after it and they're able 94 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: to kind of playing and get up to pass and 95 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: give UM the new difference coordinator Alia ever Ro credit 96 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: like he he's found a way to kind of make 97 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: it work. I know he is a UM big fangio 98 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: Brandon Staley kind of disciple where he kind of knows 99 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,559 Speaker 1: how to do the big fangio stuff. But this stuff 100 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: is working, like they're doing a really good job. They 101 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: were able to get after it, and I'll say this, UM. 102 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: Going on the other side with the charges, I always 103 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: admire when coaches can make decisions without having to worry 104 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: about what the bottom line was. Brandon Stately's decision to 105 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: sit down j C. Jackson that that doesn't happen often. 106 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: Some people just kind of live with the big money 107 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: player messing up. Nope, sending him down to me. I 108 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: believe he'll earn some respect from his guys it inside 109 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: the locker room, because if we always stand in front 110 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: of room and talk about best players play, and we're 111 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: about performance in the SA meritocracy and those things, if 112 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: you don't make decisions based on those things, you lose 113 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: your guys. And so I give him credit. I don't 114 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: know why or what j C. Jackson was doing to 115 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: mess it up, but he sat him down and said 116 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: that it wasn't up to the standard. I can appreciate that. 117 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: Now he's been bad all a year, buck Um, and 118 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: in that game last night, it was ten nothing courtesy 119 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: of j C. Jackson. I mean, he has a has 120 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: a big penalty, he has a busted coverage. UM. Really 121 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: the touchdown to the tight ends cover three, he vacates 122 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: the third and Dults just wide open for a touchdown. Um, 123 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: he gives up the huge chunk play I believe was 124 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: third and fifteen, third and sixteen. He's playing, he's playing 125 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: with a shot cock in his head. Um, something we 126 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: always talk about and scouting. You know, you gotta play, 127 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: you gotta stay plastered. Played played through the down. But 128 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: it's almost like the assumption of how the ball should 129 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: be gone, and he just kind of he's dead. Is 130 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: he goes dead? And uh, just disappointing. Um, it's just 131 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: that's the cover three play right there where he just 132 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: completely vacates. But yeah, I gave up ten points on 133 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: his own. And then after they made that switch, Mike 134 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: Davis played great in the second half and the Broncos 135 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: couldn't do anything. I want to read you a text 136 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: I got from a Broncos fan who's a good buddy 137 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: of mine, goes to a bunch of Broncos games up 138 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: there as well as here in l A. Again, I 139 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: thought this was fascinating. This is man on the street stuff. Buck. 140 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: This is a text I get in in Uh in overtime, 141 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: two first round picks, two second round picks, two players 142 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: two and thirty five million, and we run the ball 143 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: twice in overtime. What does that tell you about Russell Wilson. 144 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: I was like, that's a good point. That's a good point. 145 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: What do you say. I'll say this because everyone has 146 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: been taking Nathaniel Hackett's task right, But at some point 147 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: coaches tell you exactly how they feel about a player 148 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 1: based on how they call the game. And they've tried 149 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: this thing, and he got raked over the coals the 150 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: first week when he didn't give Russe an opportunity to 151 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: make the play on fourth down. And then he has 152 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: tried to open up the playbook. He's tried to do 153 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: this thing with Russell. But I think you and I 154 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: talked about it. Russell Wilson has never been a rhythm 155 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: and timing thrower. He's never been one to take the 156 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: snap one to three balls out. His best plays in 157 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: the plays that he made consistently in Seattle were improvised plays, 158 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: plays where he fled the pocket, either forced or intentionally, 159 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: um to extend plays and to take the scramble tosses 160 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: and shots to DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett and before 161 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: they Doug ball Win and others. Well, now you have 162 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett trying to put an offense in that wants 163 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: to run on schedule, but the quarterback doesn't throw on time, 164 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: and so you just have wide receivers and the quarterback 165 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: out of sync, and a lot of it is just 166 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: due to playing style. And so until they're able to 167 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: kind of find that middle ground where Nathaniel Hackett can 168 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: call the game the way that he wants to call 169 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: the game and he can help Russell play to the 170 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: level that we've seen him play at by maybe putting 171 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: them on the move or maybe doing some other things. Look, 172 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: I think this will just be a highpod unit for 173 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: the entire season, and at some point Nathaniel hack is 174 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: gonna have to make a decision. He's gonna have to 175 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: stand in front of the team and say this is 176 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: how we gotta play to win games. And he can't 177 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: worry about who's feeling with the yours because ultimately he 178 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: is on the hot seat. He needs to start winning 179 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: some of these games. Yeah, I mean this is something. 180 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: If the Russell Wilson thing doesn't work out, if he 181 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: if he's just simply not good enough, you're talking about 182 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: setting your franchise back a decade. Maybe oh so much capital. Yeah, 183 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: and not only that the capital you gave up in 184 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: the draft, but now you you tie to him for 185 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: at least financially, you're stuck. And then you've got no picks. Man, 186 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: Just so, such a yeah, such a huge not good. Anyways, 187 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: the Charges win second game in a row, they've won 188 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: without Justin Herbert throwing for two or forty yards. You've 189 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: got you know, no, Corey Lindsay didn't play in this game. 190 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: And if you look at Corey Lindsay in the lineup, 191 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: out of the lineup, they can't run the ball when 192 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: he's not in there. It's uh, it's just it's too 193 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: big of a hole. He's so good working up to 194 00:08:58,240 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: the second level. He's kind of the key to their 195 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: on game, especially with Slater out um so him not playing, 196 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen not playing obviously, Joey Bosa is still gone. 197 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: This team has got the Seattle Seahawks at home next week. 198 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: They win that one, they go into their buy at 199 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: five and two, and you have to believe coming out 200 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: of the buy, if not this next week, you're gonna 201 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: have Keenan Allen back. Bosa should be back soon there after. 202 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: This is the way, This is the way it works. 203 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: Right now, in a seventeen game season, you gotta just 204 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: just get in the dance and be healthy as you're 205 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: as you go into the postseason. So the Chargers, I 206 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: think I have to feel good about where they are 207 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 1: right now and ugly win, but they'll take it nonetheless. 208 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break. We're gonna come back. 209 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Trick Will and Justin Jefferson, two 210 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: guys that are having phenomenal seasons. We'll do that right 211 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: after this. 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S a 221 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: UM going back and looking up his combined numbers and 222 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: it's it's ridiculous. You remember with the show that he 223 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: put on six oh four one five pounds. He ran 224 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: four to six. Um, this is somebody. When I go 225 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: back through my notes, it's a former wide receiver turned dB. 226 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: He's uh. I thought he was fluid. I thought he 227 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: was able to build speed. Hit twenty two point forty 228 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: five miles per hour at the Senior Bowl, which is 229 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: absurd in terms of the speed. I thought he had toughness, um, 230 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: but thought there were some mistackles there. And I wrote 231 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: down their limited opportunities. He didn't get a lot of 232 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: opportunities to make plays on the ball. And I am 233 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: absolutely kicking myself. This dude has four picks, he's got height, weight, speed. 234 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: You see toughness in there. And then the knock on 235 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: him was so I didn't get any opportunities. Well, that's 236 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: not his fault. I mean that that's uh, that's poor. 237 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: That's pour on my Now. It was really hard though, 238 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: because when you looked at Trek, he was a bit 239 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: of a straight line athlete, and so when you're trying 240 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: to project guys that are six for two plus pounds 241 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: against guys that are smaller, uh, that can move around, 242 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: they look different. So when you put Trek Willing beside 243 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: a nickelback, a little guys like five eight. The footwear 244 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: looks different. You don't look as smooth or fluid as athletic. However, 245 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: that side has coveted on the perimeter because so many 246 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: of the white house that are dominating the game are 247 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: just basically big boying guys on on the outside, uh, 248 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: catching the fade ball, moving people off the row. They 249 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: know all the subtle taxes to create space without getting opis, 250 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: and so you need someone that's a bigger supersize corner 251 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,359 Speaker 1: to be able to handle that presence on the outside. 252 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: Tarik Willen has exceeded expectations. He's been able to do that. 253 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: Four interceptions, a tongue tackles, being around the ball. This 254 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: guy is playing really, really good football. He's been an 255 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: excellent fifth round pick. Is gonna be end up being 256 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: the steel This entired draft. Well done by by Schneider 257 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: and Pete Carroll. Excellent job by those guys plucking him out. 258 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to Justin Jefferson again. I like 259 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: looking at some of the rookies, look at some of 260 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: the younger players in the league. Obviously, we know what 261 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson is. Already one of the best receivers. If 262 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: not the best receiver in the NFL. He's got forty 263 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: six for six fifty four and two touches already six 264 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: fifty four yards bucks ridiculous. Um, what do you think, Uh, 265 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: the key was in his success. I know we talked 266 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: about this in the past, but I think it's always 267 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: good to go back and remember what we said about 268 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: him before the draft. Well what you say about him, 269 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: and he was the most politi of them all in 270 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: terms of running rouse, being able to do a variety 271 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: of different things, playing multiple positions, and the football. Like 272 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: you that's all the charts. All this stuff plays in 273 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: his favor, But what really has played in his favor 274 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: has been Kevin O'Connell making a concerted effort to get 275 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: him the ball. Uh. He's clearly the number one, but man, 276 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: they they just I feel like they can just take 277 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: advantage of all of these things that he's able to do, 278 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: and they're crushing people with these pick rouse and crossers 279 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: and deep overs. It has really been fun to watch. 280 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: He's a nightmare. He's a nightmare to defend. I feel like, 281 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, you've talked in the past about kind of 282 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: that Shanahan run scheme and that you get that magic 283 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: when you get that that scheme which has been able 284 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: to make everybody a star. But when you get a 285 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: special talent and put him in that scheme, then you 286 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: end up getting the Drrell Davis, you know type performance. 287 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: You get something that's that's just above and beyond. And 288 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: now you're seeing with this kind of McVeigh off shoot 289 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: offense that Kevin O'Connell is running and how you know, 290 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: receiver and passer friendly that offense is. But you dropping 291 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: the league player in that and now we're seeing it 292 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: go to a whole new level. It goes a whole 293 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: new level. Is completely difference, completely different. How you have 294 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: to defended. You're trying to figure out do I take 295 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: the player away door work about to play? Is like 296 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: what's more important? What's more valuable? Uh, it's tough. You 297 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: have gold coming into kind of just I mean, you 298 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: just have so many different things that are working for them. 299 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: Because I've talked about Kevin kun of the offense and 300 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: all of the stuff and the defense. Playing well for 301 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: Cousins is not turned to pull over. Playing well on 302 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: the big stage, a lot of positive vibes about the team. 303 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it would be excited about what 304 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson doing, what his teammates. The other two guys 305 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: are absolutely having phenomenal years. Treatfulling and Justin Jefferson. All Right, 306 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. We're gonna come back. We're 307 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: gonna look at the five most rugged running backs in 308 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: the NFL. It's an article that Bucky is posted. We're 309 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: gonna hit on that right after this. We're talking rugged 310 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: running backs here, Buck, and this is something that that 311 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: you've put out there. I'd be curious to see how 312 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: you came up with the list and and who are 313 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: these guys. I came into the list because after watching 314 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: Damian Pierce running rough shot over to Jaguars we could 315 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: go and watching cal brand Alfred Calbraian just go absolutely 316 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: crazy mooning football is like, well, I need something. I 317 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: don't have the angry specter, I don't have angry runs, 318 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: but we can do something. So we talked about the 319 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: regged runners, the guys that you don't want facing the whole. Uh, 320 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: the guys that are big, fast and physical. And so 321 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: the list is what you would think. Uh. Derrick Henry 322 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: at number one because of two times Russian champion, the 323 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: way he tells the field in their favor. He certainly 324 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: deserves to be on their um. And then you started 325 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: thinking about some of the other guys. Nick Chubb being 326 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: a physical force, having over four dred yards after contact, 327 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: running through armjacks in the second level, being able to 328 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: take it the distance when he gets there, he's deserving 329 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: of being number two at three. To me, it was 330 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: tough because I had Josh Jacobs and I had see 331 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley. Josh Jacobs is more of the rugged uh 332 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: perimeter running that you would see get out on the 333 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: edges and break away. I never saw that um from 334 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: the Raiders. But then you just kind of look at 335 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: how Josh McDaniels is doing it and it's coming along. 336 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: And then for the Giant Sa, Kwan Barkley has been 337 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: everything they're given them the ball, then get on the edges. 338 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: He's told the rock, he's shown to the competitive stamina 339 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: that you want to see. He's shown the fight in 340 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: the grid determination. He has been terrific. And then five, 341 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: I would say the originator of the idea of the 342 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: gather started me along this path. Texans running back Damian Pears. 343 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: When you watch him play d he has nothing I 344 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: mean nothing around it. But he is slamming it up 345 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: in there downhill twenty years, for ninety six years against us. 346 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: He just great. It's a great player, you know, and 347 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: just really finding a way to kind of find his 348 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: spot in a scheme that really works to his talents. 349 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: That's what we always talk about. Like it's one thing 350 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: to say this play is a fourth run pick. It's 351 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: another thing to said that, No, this is a great 352 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: pig because he really fits. I don't want to play. Yeah, 353 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: no doubt. He popped the long one in the Charger 354 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: game I was at as well. So not only has 355 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: that toughness and that ruggedness, has some speed as well. Uh. 356 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: The only one I would add to this list, which 357 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: is a phenomenal list, and you can find that NFL 358 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: dot com. Um, he's unfortunately got hurt. Javati Williams, your 359 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: North Carolina tar. Heell, he'd be up there in that 360 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: top three injury that he suffered. He's a rugged, rugged dude. 361 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: I want to remind everybody we've got the Saints and 362 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: the Cardinals coming up on Thursday Night Football. That's eight 363 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: fift pm Eastern on Prime Video. You can also follow 364 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: it on NFL Plus. Hopefully we get some touchdowns in 365 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: that one. Um, it's been rough Thursday nights the last 366 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. We're due for a good one. So 367 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: we're gonna get a sneaky good game there. I firmly 368 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 1: believe that Bucky knocked this NFL Plus read out of 369 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: the park right now. NFL Plus is the league's new 370 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: exclusive video streaming subscription service. NFL Plus has your game 371 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: day covered with live local and primetime regular season and 372 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: post season games right on your phone or tablet. NFL 373 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: Plus is available in the NFL app and at NFL 374 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: dot com. Subscription plans start at just four and anty 375 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: nine a month. Fans can visit Plus dot NFL dot 376 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: com and sign up for a free trial of NFL 377 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: Plus today. That's just smooth. That's just smoothest silk right. 378 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: They're nicely done. Buck. You can find more Move the 379 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: six content on NFL's YouTube. You can find an NFL 380 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: dot Com, the NFL Channel, the NFL app. Uh if 381 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: you want to watch the Potter game with Bucky, Freddie Freeman, 382 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: Mookie Betts, He's having a big party, big viewing party 383 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: over there, so you can go hang out with Buck 384 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna head down to the stadium and see if 385 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: we can't take care of the fighting Colling Wolves here tonight. 386 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: Come just yeah, I guess you only have to got 387 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: a rings tonight, so we can't get the TV. We're 388 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: trying and figure out what's going on just by looking. Yeah, 389 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: so those Mickey Mouse rings, can you eat him? As 390 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: it like a lollypop ring, like one of those that 391 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: we had his kids for that sixty game little little 392 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: fun season, you guys said. Anyways, that's gonna do it 393 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: for us. I'm heading out of here. I appreciate you 394 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: guys hanging with us. Thanks for listening to move the 395 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: sticky