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Speaker 1: It is Thursday August. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. And

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Speaker 1: now a guy who hasn't been in diapers in months,

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Speaker 1: Jay Peace shadd it has been a little while. We

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Speaker 1: will hear from Jay Gruden coming up as well. Welcome

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Speaker 1: in Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday afternoon from the

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Speaker 1: home studio. Just in a different room of the home

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Speaker 1: studio this week if you're watching on at Jaguars and

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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com. J P. Shatrick with you. Glad to

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Speaker 1: be along with you as always, and Jeff Lagaman is

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Speaker 1: set up in his new look home studio as well, lives.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Bud. It's all good. J It's all good.

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Speaker 1: I like your background there. You got the musical thing

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Speaker 1: kind of going on there. Yeah, a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 1: rolling Stones, sky Trumps, mixing in some local flavor what not. Right,

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Speaker 1: it's a good thing. It's a good thing. It sits

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Speaker 1: you well. The let's get to what's coming up on

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Speaker 1: the show today. Camp continues. Of course we were out

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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars offensive installation that continues. That's the diaper

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Speaker 1: reference that Bruden talked about earlier. And we'll go around

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Speaker 1: the National Football League as we always do, so logs,

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Speaker 1: works out, workouts continue. This is really a phase two

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Speaker 1: type of situation. They're in helmets, um, there's no shoulder pads,

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Speaker 1: be done. That's really about it right now. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: are you are you really calling it camp? I mean really,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not really a training camp so

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Speaker 1: I believe it is, or is it the seventeen. It's

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Speaker 1: let's start working on other things and not just working

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Speaker 1: other to where we can work on techniques and work

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Speaker 1: So but it's just as dun Morone said many times,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing normal about this year, and everything is new

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Speaker 1: and everybody's just gonna have to adapt to the jobs.

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Speaker 1: And part of that adjustment is a new offense too.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's they're in the midst of being on

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Speaker 1: hard to do everything in a new offense right now. Long.

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Speaker 1: So we heard from Jay Gruden, the offensive coordinator, earlier

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Speaker 1: in just a minute. That, of course, was Dave called

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Speaker 1: We're still in diapers right now. You know, we got

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Speaker 1: And and these guys have come in and uh, they

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Speaker 1: J Gruden the new offensive coordinator. And you know how

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Speaker 1: under his belt. And and and I'm gonna be honest

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Speaker 1: with you, JP, I thought his film from last year

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Speaker 1: was gonna be a big boost to this Jaguars run

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Speaker 1: defense having him. And then when he decided to opt out,

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Speaker 1: which totally understand and totally respect his decision, but that's

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Speaker 1: a big blow to this Jaguars football team. And and

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Speaker 1: now you've you've got the defensive tackle that they signed

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Speaker 1: which uh Ronnie Gunner. I mean, that's that's tough. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's he was the other expected upgrade along your defensive front.

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Speaker 1: And that's the type of and that's the guy that

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Speaker 1: you're expecting to be a run stuffing type of guy.

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Speaker 1: And then Dante Vius Russell, who they kept last year,

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Speaker 1: uh nose tackle, undrafted guy or seventh round pick, he

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Speaker 1: was anyways a late type of prospect. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: another guy that was expected to pa posibly help. Now

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Speaker 1: I Mean, here's the reality they were. They were on

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Speaker 1: the Street for a reason, and if they were considered

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Speaker 1: to be A plus players, they would have had a contract.

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Speaker 1: There's only a few of those guys that are out

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Speaker 1: there that you can say they're unsigned and they're still

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Speaker 1: an A plus type of player, and one of those

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Speaker 1: being Clowney. And I think Clowney is a wonderful talent.

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Speaker 1: I think any football team can be better against Runner,

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Speaker 1: better defensively overall, but Jadavian Clowney on their football team. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: take a flyer on him, maybe have a conversation about him.

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Speaker 1: How expensive will never huh? How expensive would that be? Lugs?

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Speaker 1: That's the question. That's it's it's gonna be pretty expensive,

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Speaker 1: you know. And and here's the other thing. Doesn't even

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Speaker 1: want to come to play for your football team? You know? Uh,

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Speaker 1: Clowney is you know, that's that's the beauty of being

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Speaker 1: a free agent. And you know you can you can

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Speaker 1: make that decision based on money. You can make that

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Speaker 1: decision based on personal preference. And look, you may not

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Speaker 1: like the team's colors and say, you know what, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to play for that team because I don't

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Speaker 1: like teal or he may say, you know what, I

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Speaker 1: loved till I look good in till I want to

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Speaker 1: play for the Jaguars. You don't know, but but my

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Speaker 1: point is that it's there's very few people that you

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Speaker 1: can sign at this stage of the game that you

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Speaker 1: upgrade your roster. There's just they're just not many. I

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Speaker 1: thought the Dallas Cowboys did a pretty good job. They

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Speaker 1: signed Griffin Everything. Griffin, the defensive end who played for

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. Still a productive player, still was close

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Speaker 1: to double digit sacks last year, has been a Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl type player and has passed, and they got him

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Speaker 1: for a reasonable deal. Now, Clowney is you know it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit, a little bit more than

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Speaker 1: than that reasonable type of deal that Griffin got. You know,

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Speaker 1: most players, I would think their favorite color is money green,

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Speaker 1: first of all, um, and then second, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: on the practice field yesterday, first day out, first day

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Speaker 1: in helmets. Uh, you know, the pr staff, everybody's doing

487
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Speaker 1: a great job keeping everybody distance, getting us in there

488
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Speaker 1: to begin with. But I'm looking at the roster right

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the defensive line, and there are teen

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Speaker 1: defensive linemen listed on the roster, and look up, fourteen

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Speaker 1: listed as defensive lineman right. So I look up at

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Speaker 1: defensive line drills and I see seven bodies. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: where the heck of the other guys? Well, one of them,

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Speaker 1: I think Cassius Marsh was running around with the linebackers.

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Speaker 1: That happens occasionally, you know, Um, let me to stop

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Speaker 1: you right there. Cassius Marsh is not a defensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: You know. He may put his hand in the ground

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Speaker 1: as a substitutional pass rusher, but he is not a

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Speaker 1: defensive man. I mean, he could in a in a pinch,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, if we only had

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Speaker 1: seven guys active on game day and we need Cassius

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Speaker 1: Marsh to end up being maybe an extra defensive end

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Speaker 1: if need being an emergency situation, he could be that guy.

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Speaker 1: But he's not a defensive end. He's a he's a backer.

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Speaker 1: He's a stand up guy. It's interesting, though, that kind

506
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Speaker 1: of tells you that the lay of the land yesterday

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Speaker 1: when you had three guys who had just signed but

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Speaker 1: they couldn't go to the practice field yet because they're

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Speaker 1: still doing COVID testing. You had other guys injured, I mean,

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Speaker 1: was that's the way it was at least the first

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Speaker 1: day out. But it's kind of evened up a little

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Speaker 1: bit now, and I think that that brings up, you know,

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Speaker 1: another point that I think that the league, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: needs to take a pretty serious look at. And Okay,

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Speaker 1: so let's say the Jaguars have a rash of injuries

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the season, or you have a

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Speaker 1: room that becomes infected. Right, so, uh, let's say five

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Speaker 1: guys are unavailable or an offensive line group is unavailable. Well,

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Speaker 1: you've upgraded the practice squad to sixteen, And in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: why not bigger than that? I mean, I mean, here

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Speaker 1: we are. We've we've been talking about how it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be tough for a lot of younger players to be

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Speaker 1: able to make an NFL roster this year, and you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna be able to see them for a lot

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Speaker 1: of time in training camp. Well, okay, if we're trying

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Speaker 1: to develop guys to be able to be future players

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League, let's continue to develop them.

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Speaker 1: And let's also give ourselves a little extra insurance policy

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Speaker 1: because you know what, if all of sudden, you can't

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Speaker 1: fulfill a deficiency in the middle of the season by

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Speaker 1: just with guys off of your practice squad. What are

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Speaker 1: you gonna do. Well, you can't go and bring a

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Speaker 1: guy out the street and have him playing in two days,

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Speaker 1: because he's gonna have to go through the COVID testing

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Speaker 1: to be able to be ready to go for a game.

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Speaker 1: So in my and look and practice squad guys. And look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying in at the NFL, uh can just

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Speaker 1: spend oodles of money, but I think they can afford

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Speaker 1: And now, I guarantee if you went to the coaching

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Speaker 1: be against would be against having twenty let's say, on

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Speaker 1: the practice squad. Why not? Yeah, I bet not. It's

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Speaker 1: up to sixteen now, and let's come back in a

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Speaker 1: moment um. We'll continue this conversation. Logs Tony BASSELLI. You

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Speaker 1: only thing I did put in my office that's different

638
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Speaker 1: than what I would normally have the helmets right in

639
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Speaker 1: the middle of the day. Everything everything else is what

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Speaker 1: it is. Well, like I believe that because Jeff's pretty

641
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Speaker 1: organized in pretty detail anyways, But like JP, I guarantee

642
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Speaker 1: you he went out and bought a bunch of books

643
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Speaker 1: off Amazon to put in his bookshelf, so he looks

644
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Speaker 1: like he's smart. I've had them, I haven't opened them

645
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Speaker 1: in years, but they've been around in boxes, they're around

646
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Speaker 1: and now I can put them to use. So let's

647
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Speaker 1: move forward here. Let's move forward. Here we heard from

648
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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson there at the top, Tony, Let's get right

649
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Speaker 1: to it, man. It's uh, Cam Robinson coming off the

650
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: knee last year's you heard him say it was it's

651
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: night and day this year to last year, he wasn't

652
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: even cleared yet at this time a season ago, and

653
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: he said he really didn't feel normal until like the

654
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: last five games of the season. Um, but that's kind

655
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Speaker 1: of what I think we were talking about all year

656
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Speaker 1: with Cam Robinson. What can you expect now from Cam?

657
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: And then we'll get to Will Richardson in just a moment.

658
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Speaker 1: What did you make of Ham's comments there? Yeah, let

659
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Speaker 1: me let me just start pretty preface, like there's like

660
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: a doubt there's very many people in this organization or

661
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: this team or the city that are rooting harder than

662
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: I am for Cam Robinson because I really like Cam.

663
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: I think he's a big, physical guy, that man. He

664
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: brings its nasty of meanness to that group that they

665
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: need um and I love that he feels better for

666
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: me though, it's gonna be like the proof is gonna

667
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: be in the pudding when we're gonna watch tape and

668
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: we'll watch practice and everything else. Then we get into

669
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: the games. Does he revert to his bad habits, Does

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00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: he revert to his poor footwork? Because this was not

671
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: a knee issue, this was pre knee. He had some

672
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: footwork issues. Now he's such a big, powerful athletic man

673
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: he can get away with it. And now it was

674
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: exasperated last year because of the no doubt about it,

675
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: and I get know what he was experiencing. I've been

676
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: through it and it takes time to jeffs as well.

677
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: It takes you time to get back to feeling like

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00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: two year old self. But I still go back to

679
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 1: For me, I'm watching his feet. I'm watching this technique because,

680
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: in my opinion, Jeff, this was a pre knee issue.

681
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: Um that I hope he cleans it up for a

682
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: lot of reasons. One, I love to have a left tackle,

683
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: franchise left tackle, and I think Camber obviously gonna be that.

684
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: And then for him individually, big year because he's gonna

685
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: be a free and if he does figure it out,

686
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: go look at Laramie Tunsel's contract of twenty two million

687
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: bucks a year. He's gonna get paid and I'm always

688
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: for guys getting paid. Well, he's not gonna approach that

689
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: category just because Larrymie Tunsil has been able to do it,

690
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: you know, year after year after year. But I mean

691
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: Cam has an opportunity to be able to to take

692
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: care of himself significantly. And Tony right, and that the

693
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 1: feet issue or if defeat issues that he's had didn't

694
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: just show up because of the knee injury he had

695
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: him before. They were probably exacerbated a little bit last

696
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: year because of the knee injury. And it's kind of

697
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: sometimes hard. I've been there, Tony, You've been there. It's

698
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: hard to work on technique when you're just trying to

699
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: find a way to get through the practice, you know. So,

700
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: and he's got a good offensive line coach and coach Warhop.

701
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: If there's anybody that's gonna be able to coach the

702
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: technique in the in the Cam, it's gonna be coach Warhop.

703
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: So and I'm with Tony. I hope that he is

704
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: able to find the groove. I'm hope he's able to

705
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: improve because I love him, and what I love about

706
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: him is he is a dominant run blocker at times.

707
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: And there's not many left tackles that are playing at

708
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: the NFL level right now that you sit there and

709
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: you go, dang, that guy can run block and look

710
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: at him finish five, you know, five yards down the

711
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: field on a guy. But Cam is one of those guys. Now, look,

712
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: Will had did an impressive job when he was in there,

713
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: and I think this is a great situation that Look,

714
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: competition is a beautiful thing, and it will make both

715
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: guys better by having them compete against each other for

716
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: that playing time. So let's see it. Let's see the

717
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: comp Titian, let it begin. Yeah, let me and I'll

718
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: say this. Let's pick up on that thread. Jeff Um.

719
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: I never understood last year why they didn't give Will

720
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: rich is In the chance to compete for the job

721
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: throughout the year when when Cam was obviously not obviously

722
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: was struggling at times Um with technique and his knee

723
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: and his strength and everything else. And I I was

724
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: thoroughly impressed for a guy who was asked about two

725
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: days before opening day to go kick out the left

726
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: tackle position you've never played before. And I thought he

727
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: played in the two games, the two games that he played,

728
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: I thought he was good. I thought he saw it.

729
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: Now everyone go back to it. He got beat for

730
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: a sack, and you have in two games he gave

731
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: up like three pressures in a sack. Okay, great, that

732
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: happens you're playing from behind. I mean, all kinds of

733
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: things happened, and you know that as well as I do, Jeff.

734
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: But if you watch him on tape and you watch

735
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: his technique like he's not a guard, Let's be clear.

736
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a guard. He is a He

737
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: can play you the tackle position, and I'm I for

738
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: one thought he'd get a shot last year to kick

739
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: out the left tackle and compete with Cam. And I'm

740
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: glad they're giving him the chance now, and I do

741
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: think it'll make Cam better. Tony. What did he play

742
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: in college? Though? Right tackle? You're around him a bit.

743
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 1: He was a right tackle in college pretty much dominant right. Yeah,

744
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: that's all you ever? So did he so I'm not mistaken.

745
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: I know at NC State he never took a snap

746
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: at left tackle. I think it was all the way

747
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: back to high school. He'd never been a left hander.

748
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: Stands um, I mean he was a he was a

749
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: right tackle. Only they drafted him they thought he could

750
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 1: play some guard. Um. I don't think he's a natural guard.

751
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: He's pretty long, and I think the suddenness sometimes gets

752
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: on top of him a little bit quick in the

753
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: past game. I think he can run block as a guard. Um.

754
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: I think he's better at space, which would lean him

755
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: towards the tackle position. And um, I was shocked, for

756
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: one that he was as effective as he was uh

757
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: in that opening game last year and even the first

758
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: two games at left tackle, for having never done it

759
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: and uh and with as he didn't get more rips

760
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: at it when Cam was obviously struggling because coming back

761
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: from the knee. Yeah, let me just add this too, though,

762
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: I think from a from a coaching standpoint there, there's

763
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: probably got to be a lot of comfort knowing that

764
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: you know when you go into a game. Okay, Cam

765
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: Robinson has been a left tackle his entire life and

766
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: that's all he's ever played. Well, now that we've got

767
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: Will Richardson, who he can play right tackle. He didn't college.

768
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: He's proven to us that he's played left tackle. He

769
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: competed for time at the right guard spot and can

770
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: play guard. So I think from a comfort standpoint in

771
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: the reality is, if you're in coaching, you want to

772
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 1: be comfortable going into a game day and you feel

773
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: really comfortable having Will Richardson as being your six guy

774
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: or seventh guys. You got somebody else who was a

775
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 1: backup center, but you feel really good about him having

776
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: that flexibility to play multiple positions. Whereas, Okay, if all

777
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Will is your left tackle, he's got

778
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: to be significantly better than Cam Robinson because you need

779
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: to have a reason to take Cam Robinson. Okay, Now

780
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: we need to train him to be able to be

781
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: maybe that swing guy, and that's a lot to ask.

782
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 1: So I think if this is a competition, then Will

783
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: has to be significantly better, not just that much better,

784
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: but that much better than Cam to be able to

785
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: take him out of that swing role and insert him

786
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Speaker 1: and as a starter. Let's come back. One final segment

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848
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Speaker 1: I'm curious to see Leonard play this year. Obviously, you

849
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 1: had a good year last year statistically, Um, you gotta

850
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: get in the end zone a little bit more. But

851
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: it's a contract year, and Tony, you know what that means, Um,

852
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 1: if there isn't motivation before, which there always has been,

853
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: there certainly is now for Leonard. You know, what was

854
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: the context of him not being the jerk? I didn't

855
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: What was the question, did you do something something? I

856
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: think that in the off season off season there were

857
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: in comments that maybe he was unhappy around here, and

858
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: there was they were talking about trading him away. That

859
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: was the storyline a little bit in the offseason, and

860
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: that he was a little disruntled at times and he

861
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: wanted to explain himself a little bit there. Yeah. I

862
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: didn't understand that part, but okay, um, yeah, I mean, uh,

863
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: it's a big air for him. I don't see him.

864
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: I mean outside of something crazy happening like where he

865
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: just goes crazy numbers, I don't see him. I think

866
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: this is his last year as a Jacksonville Jaguar. Um.

867
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: They didn't they didn't take the extra year and they

868
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: didn't extended the fifth year. Uh. And it'll be interesting

869
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: to see Jagrud's offense, you know, will he be the

870
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: center point where last year I mean they gave him

871
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: the ball and with the ricky quarterback, I mean, he

872
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: was right everything, run, game, pass, game, you know, never

873
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: came off the field unless he was hurt, like the

874
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: last game when he couldn't play. So, um, it'll be interesting.

875
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's gonna be an important piece. This is

876
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: a team that is pretty young. They're best players are

877
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: you know, I mean as far as the guys who

878
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: are explosive are outside. Um d J. Chark had a

879
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: great year. Uh so no the rookie I mean, big, powerful,

880
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: fast guy that they're going to count on. Um. So

881
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: you have some really young guys, you know, big questions

882
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: at the tight end with Tyler Eiffert, Um can he

883
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: have you know, he's been injury riddled throughout the last

884
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: several years of his career. And I say all that

885
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: because so it circles me back to Leonard four Nette.

886
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: I mean he has to have a big year for

887
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: this team to be successful and to score points. I

888
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: mean him obviously not most important. It's Carter Minshew, but

889
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: he's pretty close up there because they're gonna need to

890
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,959
Speaker 1: find production, uh to score points in offense. Well, he's

891
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: been one of the most consistent producers for this offense

892
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. Is from from a

893
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: production and touches standpoint, and he needs to be exactly that,

894
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: especially this year for a couple of different reasons, some

895
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: of them resid on his side of the ball. I

896
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: mean partner Minshew being the first time starting quarterback. You've

897
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: got a wide receiver group besides d J. Chart. I mean,

898
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: and he did it for one year, one year only

899
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: it's very unproven. You have a tight end group that.

900
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 1: I will say this. I don't care if Tyler Eiffert

901
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: was a veteran guy or not. He's unproven too because

902
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: it hadn't proven injurious yeah that he hasn't can't stay

903
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: on the field. He did it for one year last year.

904
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: And I think the one thing of note watching his film,

905
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: Tyler Eiffert's film is that once he got the ball,

906
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: he didn't do a whole lot of exciting things with

907
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands. It was like he was

908
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: in self preservation mode a little bit, looking to make

909
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 1: sure that he didn't take any tough hits. So okay,

910
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: so where are you going to get that electrics, you know,

911
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: consistent performance from While I think Leonard Fordette has to

912
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: be one of those guys, the offensive line has to

913
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: be one of the guys because it also reaches to

914
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: the other side of the ball, and that the Jaguars

915
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: defense is under construction in time of possession and controlling

916
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: the clock and keeping the defense off the field is

917
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: going to be I think very important for this Jaguars

918
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: defense until it confined a little bit of rhythm. I mean,

919
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: here here's the crazy thing. A couple of years ago,

920
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: we were talking about one of the best defenses in

921
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 1: the league. Is this the best defense in the league?

922
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: And now we're talking about the importance of an offensive

923
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: line and a running game to help maybe lessen the

924
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: burden on this defense. But I mean, how things have

925
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: changed for this Jaguars football team and a couple of

926
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: years to go from that, you know, the elite of

927
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: elite defenses in the National Football League to now having

928
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: a lot of question marks across the board on the

929
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. Jeff, what's your biggest question?

930
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: Let me just and I know where you want to

931
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 1: go with this, JP, but I'm gonna just steer it myself.

932
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: What is your biggest question? Because I think you bring

933
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: up a great point. I mean, you look at both

934
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: sides of the ball, um a lot of questions and

935
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: offense and we always kind of just said, yeah, but

936
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: the defense is good out there might be more questions

937
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: on defense than they are on offensive. Oh, there absolutely,

938
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: As I think, and as you look at that, what's

939
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 1: your biggest what is your biggest question or concern on defense?

940
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 1: I'll start with what what is the most important aspect

941
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: of being a good defense the National Football League? And

942
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: it's got to start and stopping to run. And we

943
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: saw Tony you saw it last year. They had trouble

944
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: stopping to run and stopping the run. You gotta be

945
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 1: good in the middle. And when I say the middle,

946
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: nose tackle, three technique inside linebackers because there's two and

947
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: then safety. Um, are they strong at at that middle

948
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: area on the defense? Well, you had one of your

949
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 1: guys Outwood's opt out gunners on non football illness. He's out.

950
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: Joe Schobert I think has a lot to prove. Yet,

951
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: even though he was an expensive free agent, mile Jack

952
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: hasn't played will before consistently. So how will he look

953
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: because last year when he played, Mike didn't have a

954
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: great year. Were the performance of the safety he's consistent

955
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: at all? Last year? No? You know, so you have

956
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: some mistacker Ron Harrison exactly didn't have you know, the

957
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: best performance of his career last year. So uh, that's

958
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: a major concern of mine is that this Jaguars defense

959
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: went from Ben. I mean, holy cow, you had Darius

960
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: and the league and Calais and in pause going back

961
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: a couple of years with Miles Jack and Telvin and uh,

962
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 1: you had consistency at safety with two veteran guys, and

963
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, in a couple of years,

964
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: it's all changed. Which you know, the league is about changing.

965
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: It always happens. But that's a lot of change in

966
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: the short amount of time. Interesting all the things you

967
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: just said, Jeff, I agree, and you know one of

968
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: the big stories this offseason, even the campusn Gockway and

969
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: Gockway doesn't fix any of those problems you just talk about. No, No,

970
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: he does not none of them. That's still a good

971
00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: pass rushers. You want him on your team, but you

972
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: want to be in camp, but you want him out there.

973
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, what's so interesting one of the guys

974
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: that so much discussion has been around and Ben, get

975
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: him and can we get him back? And what are

976
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: we gonna do with them? And he's like all the

977
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: things you just said has almost zero impact on UM

978
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: because I mean, at his best he said above average

979
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: running bought a player, but he plays outside and he's

980
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: you know outside in when you say, when you say

981
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: at his best, he has moments where he's an above

982
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: that's what I said. Yeah, I mean he's a pure

983
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: pass rusher. He's a disruptor from the edge. UM. But

984
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: if you look at you, he really because of what

985
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: you said, his impact even goes down when you think

986
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: about it, because you can run, you know what else

987
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: you can't do. You can't get teams in the third

988
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 1: and long and passing only situations, and so that is

989
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: it's such a I mean, I couldn't agree more. I

990
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: think you know one of the things and done talking

991
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: about it at the beginning. It can't be brought up

992
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: to Pavin Bryant and you and I have talked about

993
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: taming a lot. He's gonna be the three technique. He's

994
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 1: gonna have to become a productive player on this team

995
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: if they want to be able to stop the run

996
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: UM or have a chance to stop to run. And

997
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: I mean that's just one Showbert agreed he's gonna have.

998
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: If you look at Cleveland what was he known for.

999
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: He was more known for his pass coverage and a

1000
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 1: good pass defender. Um, he's got to become a middle

1001
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: linebacker run stuff and guy Miles Jack and all the

1002
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: way down to the safeties. UM. And I bring that

1003
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: up because everyone talks about Josh Allen and if you

1004
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: get your unique back and uh chase on who you

1005
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: drafted in the first round out of LSU. All these

1006
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,479
Speaker 1: guys are explosive splash players that can really get after

1007
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 1: the quarterback and physical and run around and make plays

1008
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: you can't stop to run. Well, you really knowify the

1009
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: impact those type of players can have on your football team.

1010
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: Al Right, guys, let's go around the National Football League

1011
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: at some headlines before we get out of here. And

1012
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: we start with the league and the NFL p A

1013
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: agreeing to extend daily co of A nineteen testing through

1014
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 1: September five tier one and two positive tests below one

1015
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: percent so far since arrival, and no individual club rate

1016
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 1: is greater than two percent. So Tony, so far, so good.

1017
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: J Let me let me jump in right there real quick,

1018
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: because I held my nose, Tony, because you probably went

1019
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: through this process. You're talking about daily COVID testing For

1020
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 1: the people that aren't familiar with this, the nasal swab technique, Jeff,

1021
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: I have not, but I've got some friends that have

1022
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: had to go through it, and they said it's it's

1023
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: absolutely horrendous. Yeah, I call it the brain tickler because

1024
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: they don't just do your nose and all the way

1025
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: to the brain, you know, picking your brain. But I'm

1026
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: pretty sure that, if I'm not mistaken, the test that

1027
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: the players are doing the NFL is not the nasal

1028
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: swap that goes all the way back. It's more of

1029
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 1: a just internal It's maybe advanced technology. That's what someone

1030
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: told me. I don't know if it's accurate. If God

1031
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: bless them, if they have to do the brain tickler

1032
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: every day, I did do seven times. It's like it's brutal,

1033
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: um and so uh yeah, it's uh, you know, it's goods.

1034
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: I was one. I've had it. My family's had it.

1035
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: I said this the other day about for state football,

1036
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: my kids playing there. I think they should play football.

1037
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: I think I think I was disappointed the Big ten

1038
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: in the Pact twelve what they did. Um. If you

1039
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: look at the numbers, the risk factors of the age

1040
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: group of these men who are playing football, whether it's

1041
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: in college or professional football, for the most part, very

1042
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: very low risk. I'm not saying it's zero risk, but

1043
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: it's low risk. And I know this. If I was

1044
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: a player on the things, I'd be worried about. As

1045
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: far as happening to be on the football field, COVID

1046
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: would not be at the top of it. Now. The

1047
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: key is, with all of this being uh, all that

1048
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: being said, it's not around the facility I worry about.

1049
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: It's not on the field I worry about it, says

1050
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: these guys get out of camp and get into the

1051
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: daily life of being just a person. Um you So

1052
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: are they gonna have to discipline not to go out

1053
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: and do things they shouldn't be and be around people

1054
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: they shouldn't be around as far as go home, you know,

1055
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: be smart, beat with your family, like, try to isolate

1056
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: yourself as much as possible. We just saw a rookie

1057
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: I don't know the kid's name up in Seattle got

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Speaker 1: cut today because in camp he tried to sneak a

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Speaker 1: uh female friend into the facility um when he wasn't

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Speaker 1: supposed to, broking, breaking all testing protocols and everything else.

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Speaker 1: And so that's what you worry about like, these are

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Speaker 1: young guys and we forget that sometimes, like you have

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Speaker 1: some older veterans. Actually, I should say that the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: don't put other teams of older veterans, um, but these

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Speaker 1: are young guys. And the key is for this thing

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Speaker 1: to work and for us to get through this without

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Speaker 1: UM significant positive tests is what they do outside of

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Speaker 1: the facility. I think that's really important, um, for these

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Speaker 1: guys to be thinking about. All right, good stuff. Some

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Speaker 1: other notes to say. George Kittle agrees to a five year,

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Speaker 1: seventy five million dollar extension with San Francisco. Everson Griffin

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Speaker 1: gets a one year deal worth up to six million

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Speaker 1: dollars with the Cowboys, and the ratings down for Hard

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Speaker 1: Knocks on the first episode this week drew only two

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Speaker 1: seventy thousand viewers, as opposed to over seven hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: a year ago. Tony, good stuff. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: again next week. Next talk to you Monday. The show

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Speaker 1: kicks off Monday, JP. Let's go, Yeah, It's it's coming

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Speaker 1: in quick. Pete Prisco will join us on Monday as well.

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Speaker 1: Uh Tony Boselli for Jeff Logerman and our entire crew

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Speaker 1: I'm JP Shadrick. Coming up next the Doug Morone Show,

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Speaker 1: and that's along the Jaguars Radio Network. This is Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.