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Speaker 1: All right, here we go. It is a Thursday, the

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Speaker 1: day after the NBA Draft. Everybody's trying to size it up.

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Speaker 1: John Middlecof filled in great guy. H Jmack is back

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Speaker 1: after hanging out with the kids and doing something, you know,

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Speaker 1: parent and stuff. That's the way it works. And it

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Speaker 1: was NBA Draft is funny because unlike the NFL Draft,

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Speaker 1: it's just all projection, right, Like you're just kind of

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Speaker 1: your kind of guessing because everybody's so young. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how I you know, it's I don't have a

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Speaker 1: I'm supposed to have really strong takes. The NBA draft

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Speaker 1: is one of the things that everybody has strong takes

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Speaker 1: on in My take is who can tell?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean the Brooklyn Nets had five first round picks.

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Speaker 3: Everybody who's expecting a trade, they take five guys like

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Speaker 3: who knows that they're gonna be next to you?

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Speaker 1: All right? So my take is there's two guys in

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Speaker 1: this draft that you will see immediately, and that's because

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Speaker 1: they're going to good teams. Cooper Flag in Dallas, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna score eighteen to twenty a game, I think, very quickly,

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Speaker 1: and he'll be on a good team. I think Dallas

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Speaker 1: good coach. They're gonna he that kid jumps off the television,

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Speaker 1: NBA skills, athletic trades. Those guys will play that. Dylan

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Speaker 1: Harper goes number two. I think he has a great future,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's gonna take him a while to

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Speaker 1: kind of figure out. He's young, figure out his fit

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Speaker 1: with San Antonio. But in the NFL draft, you are

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Speaker 1: plugging in holes immediately, often with second, third, fourth, fifth rounders.

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Speaker 1: That's why with this draft, I can't get too high.

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Speaker 1: I can't get too low. I mean, for god's sakes,

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Speaker 1: I'm told Portland drafted me, so who knows. Sga went eleventh,

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Speaker 1: he was the finals. MVP. Jokish went second round, so

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Speaker 1: did Draymond Green. Giannis went fifteenth. I think Kawhi went fifteenth.

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Speaker 1: Halliburton went twelveth by Sacramento. So one or two times

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Speaker 1: a year, it's not just projection, or if it is,

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Speaker 1: they go to good teams, you'll see him play. But

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Speaker 1: if you go back twenty years, there's only been two

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Speaker 1: number one picks who have been MVPs. One's obviously Lebron

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Speaker 1: and then Derreck Rose. I do think this. I thought

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Speaker 1: san Antonio kind of crushed it. And my take is

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Speaker 1: it used to be in the seventies and eighties, if

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Speaker 1: in the eighties and nineties it was like even Michael

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Speaker 1: Duncan and Parker, and then you could stack teams for

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Speaker 1: a few years, and the NBA didn't like that, right,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, Stephie people didn't like that. Now I think

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Speaker 1: we've moved into a different area. I would call it

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Speaker 1: the core four. Because of the new CBA and aprons,

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Speaker 1: you can't stack it with all stars. You have to

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Speaker 1: draft and develop. So, for instance, I would say Indiana's

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Speaker 1: underrated in the draft. I don't know if Carter Bryant's

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Speaker 1: Day one like he's disruptive. But you know, I look

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Speaker 1: don't know what to do with the NBA draft. I

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Speaker 1: do think there's two guys that will come in good teams.

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Speaker 1: Cooper Flag VJ. Edgecomb jump off the TV. We all

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Speaker 1: watch them in March. We all know they can play

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Speaker 1: Cooper will make it in Dallas, Vj'll make it in

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Speaker 4: Well, he's physically ready, he's extremely athletic, he shoots the basketball,

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Speaker 1: He's ready for.

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Speaker 4: The NBA and I think he'll be an impact basketball

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Speaker 1: So you faced VJ. Edgecomb from Baylor. Okay, what did

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Speaker 1: you see that you like as a pro and is

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Speaker 1: there anything he needs to work on as a pro?

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Speaker 4: VJ is a tremendous athlete. Fast, he plays way way

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Speaker 4: above the rim. He's lightning quick in the open court.

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Speaker 4: He's got an average to good jump shot. He needs

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Speaker 4: a lot of work on his jump shot. But that

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Speaker 1: So Rick Patino knows hoops. Those are the two guys.

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Speaker 1: I think next year you'll see him on TV. They're

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Speaker 1: on playoff teams and they'll score. I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about Cooper Flag. So actually number one picks in the

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Speaker 1: to me, was never a winning player. I mean he

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Speaker 1: But most of these guys Blake Derreck rose a d

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Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards, k Mancarlo's a stud, Kyrie Irving, most of

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Speaker 1: If a guy's got an attitude. Ben Simmons very early, yikes,

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Speaker 1: I know everybody said he could be the second best

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Speaker 1: I don't care how high you jump. If I don't

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Speaker 1: like your attitude, it doesn't work. So if you start

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Speaker 1: looking at number one picks international or domestic, the guys

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Speaker 1: that don't work usually just aren't ready for the moment.

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Speaker 1: A lot of its maturity, you know, I mean Zion,

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Speaker 1: he just couldn't control his weight, his personal life. The

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Speaker 1: Ace Bailey to me, looks like trouble. My guess is

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Speaker 1: I like Danny Ainge alot and he was probably too

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Speaker 1: good not to draft. But I think that's the one thing,

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Speaker 1: the one warning sign to me, I mean, you got

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Speaker 1: to have more self awareness. You have not played in

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Speaker 1: And Ace Bailey looks like he's not interested. But as

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Speaker 1: far as Cooper Flag goes, this looks like another hit

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Speaker 1: and even more than the NFL the number one pick

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Speaker 1: in the draft. There's been a couple of misses, bad misses.

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Speaker 1: Most of the time it works, and here's Cooper Flag.

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Speaker 5: Excided to be a sponge, to get down there and

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Speaker 5: just learn, be surrounded by you know, Hall of Fame

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Speaker 5: them and send him an incredible experience. I feel so blessed,

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Speaker 5: you know, to be in the position I am, and

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Speaker 5: just to get down there, like I said, be a sponge,

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Speaker 5: learn and shining girl my game as much as I can.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I I don't know if we're getting better at

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Speaker 1: and I've talked about this sort of ad nauseum in

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Speaker 1: think you start looking at the picks. It was a

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Speaker 1: in America that make march Madness. The NIL is allowing

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Speaker 1: last night's draft, if anything, I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: a great draft, but I do think drafts will start

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Speaker 1: we love sports and the NFL because Tim Tebow, whether

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Speaker 1: I think I think a big part of the NFL's

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Speaker 1: have watched almost all these guys, even the international guys

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Speaker 3: And you had the great point a couple weeks ago

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Speaker 3: about the international young teenagers now coming to the US

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Speaker 3: to play college basketball. And I think branding is also

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Speaker 3: know that trend of hey, European players at the top

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Speaker 3: over and now we're transitioning back to American players. And listen,

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Speaker 3: I know there's Cooper Flagg is divisive colony. People are

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Speaker 3: like comparing him to Christian Leytner and stuff. I think

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Speaker 3: He is and this attitude you could hear him in

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Speaker 3: Dallas a lot next year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, listen, Anthony Bennett and Markel Folts didn't work.

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Speaker 1: But by and large, considering how little you've seen the

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Speaker 1: guys play before draft night, I mean, a lot of

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Speaker 1: these guys come out at eighteen nbaight does a pretty

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Speaker 1: Blake Griffin probably he was dynamic. Maybe he's not as

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Speaker 1: He was one of the most talked about and commercialized

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Speaker 3: The tough problem, Colin is, you know these coaches want

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the front court is.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Brown, George Niang, and Luke Cornett. Yeah, that is

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Speaker 3: not sniffing fifty wins, not even this.

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Speaker 1: This is the East forty four. Get you the third seed?

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Speaker 1: Miami didn't get KD.

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Speaker 3: I mean Detroit, Detroit could be coming out to be good.

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Speaker 1: Orlando's gonna be good.

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Speaker 3: Very good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, Peyton Pritchard obviously's good and he's gonna

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Speaker 3: play a lot. But I don't like what the NBA did. Man,

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Speaker 3: the second A print is total garbage. And and then

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Speaker 3: and the Celtics having to guys two years after an

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Speaker 3: unbelievable run, looking like they were set up for the future,

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Speaker 3: and now here it is, Hey, we don't want to

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Speaker 3: write a check for eighty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: No, but you know what stupid. I think the NBA

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Speaker 1: is going to look more like the NFL, where it's

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Speaker 1: virtually impossible. Nobody wins three in a row. It's almost impossible.

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Speaker 1: Not even Brady and Belichick won back to backs. The NFL,

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Speaker 1: you can't win back to back. You have to move

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Speaker 1: off people. So the NBA, which is always felt like

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Speaker 1: big cities coastal areas, stack rosters, win Adam Sober's like, no, No,

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Speaker 1: the NFL's got it right. Eight teams every year with

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Speaker 1: a chance to win. Helped plays a big factor, coaching

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Speaker 1: and bench plays a big factor. That's the NFL.

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Speaker 3: The problem is the NBA has never had that. In

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Speaker 3: the eighties, it was like four teams. Right in the

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Speaker 3: nineties it was like two, and then the last decade

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Speaker 3: it's whatever, whoever's the super team.

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Speaker 1: Remember in the eighties, the NBA was still trying to

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Speaker 1: get great tea deals. Look at Magic in Michael Jordan's contracts.

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Speaker 1: They made nothing in the eighties. So the reality is

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Speaker 1: the league is much healthier. Seventy six I mean, think

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Speaker 1: of this eleven year, seventy six billion dollars. Fine, that's

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Speaker 1: that's an it's an insane number. That doesn't count what

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Speaker 1: teams are gonna make in parking, in Swedes, in advertising,

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Speaker 1: in radio, TV locally. So I it's just it's a

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Speaker 1: different league. And I think Adam Silbers said we're gonna

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Speaker 1: copy the NFL a little bit, very punitive. Anybody can

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Speaker 1: win every year.

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Speaker 3: A final story, Colin is a big moment happened in

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Speaker 3: the draft last night. Obviously Cooper Flag went one, but uh,

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Speaker 3: the Grizzlies made a trade with the Blazers to move

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Speaker 3: up to the eleventh pick and make this dramatic selection.

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Speaker 4: So the Cortland Travelazers select Colin Coward here.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Colin, Hey, congrats, you're going home to Portland. You're

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Speaker 3: loving Northwest.

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Speaker 1: Well, but they traded me to Memphis. Oh that was

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Speaker 1: I was very excited for about five minutes.

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Speaker 3: They got the jersey there you and the Portland gear

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Speaker 3: on where'd you get those pipes? Man sees you back

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Speaker 3: them crazy?

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Speaker 1: I felt bad because Malika does a great job. That

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Speaker 1: was one of those well's one of those moments that

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Speaker 1: you regret. And of all people, she had to you and.

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Speaker 3: I have never we've never messed up a name ever

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Speaker 3: on television.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never done that in my career.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it just doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: I think there's websites dedicated to us that Malika, You're great.

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Speaker 1: That's funny and uh all good. Jmack with the news,

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Speaker 1: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 1: Heard Line News. So I saw this story. Now, I

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Speaker 1: don't know who this is the staff does Reporter Scoop B.

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Speaker 1: Robinson on The Zach Gelb Show Tuesday, So I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: a staff says, uh, legit it. Basically, he was a

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Speaker 1: guest on a show Scoop was that's a very appropriate

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Speaker 1: name for a guy scooping stuff, right right. I mean

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Speaker 1: I got drafted by Portland scoop and scooping people. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: he says, the Jason Kidd wants the next job. First

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Speaker 1: of all, you'd be crazy to take the Knixt job

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Speaker 1: and leave the Dallas Mavericks number one Cooper flag by

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Speaker 1: midway year two. He's better than everybody on the Knicks

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Speaker 1: and you're not paying him for years. Secondly, Dallas has

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Speaker 1: the best front line in the NBA, and their best

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Speaker 1: young guy after Ad is Derek Lively from Duke, and

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Speaker 1: he's done a rookie contract. So you have massive I

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Speaker 1: mean the bigs for New York. One can't score and

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Speaker 1: the other can't defend. Kyrie Irving, the best small finisher

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Speaker 1: in the league, will come off an injury. Clay can

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Speaker 1: catch and shoot. The other thing is no James Dolan.

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Speaker 1: James Dolan's pulsive doesn't mean he's a bad owner, but boy,

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Speaker 1: when he was building the sphere and he wasn't paying

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Speaker 1: attention to the Knicks. They got really good, really fast.

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Speaker 1: So if you look around American sports, I always love

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Speaker 1: it how everybody's always saying, oh, this manager wants the Yankees.

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Speaker 1: There is no American city that in the last decade

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Speaker 1: that has spent more money and got less for it

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Speaker 1: than New York City. It can be the Giants, it

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Speaker 1: can be the Brooklyn Nets, it can be the Jets,

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Speaker 1: it can be the New York Mets, it can be

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Speaker 1: the Yankees. Nobody spends like New York and gets less

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Speaker 1: in return. So this idea that a Jason Kidd oh

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Speaker 1: he is itching for this folks. The Knicks right now

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Speaker 1: have very clear ceilings. Brunson and Cat on the floor

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Speaker 1: is not great. Robinson can't score as a big Cat,

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Speaker 1: can't defend all the Dallas guys can defend a d

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Speaker 1: more than any of them. Then, and then Cooper Flag

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Speaker 1: is probably our best domestic number one pick. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'd argue, honestly, is it since Lebronn seriously last twenty years,

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Speaker 1: he could be as good as anybody. So this idea

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Speaker 1: that New York I was talking about this this morning.

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Speaker 1: I always do an NFL Super Bowl bubble, and I'm very,

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Speaker 1: very high in Orlando. So and I think it's much

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Speaker 1: easier to get to the championship in the East than

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Speaker 1: the West. But right now, if I today my twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six NBA Championship bubble, I would have Houston, OKC, Cleveland, Minnesota, Orlando,

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Speaker 1: and then I would have the t Wolves, the Celtics,

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Speaker 1: and the Nuggets close. No j Mac, there's no Lakers

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Speaker 1: if Austin Reeves is your third best player. And now again,

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Speaker 1: I'm higher on Orlando than everybody else. I think Orlando

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Speaker 1: is going to be I think Ben Carroll's going to

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Speaker 1: be all NBA next year. I think Bain is exactly

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Speaker 1: what they need. I am totally high in Orlando. But

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Speaker 1: there I'm New York. You could say New York. New

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Speaker 1: York's two best offensive players can't are both terrible defensively

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Speaker 1: time out.

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Speaker 3: We need a twenty second time out here. Eliminating the

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Speaker 3: Knicks and Lakers is a travesty. I demand you do

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Speaker 3: this over the first of all, the Lakers were third

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Speaker 3: in the West. Just a reminder with no A d.

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Speaker 3: Luca missed a bunch third in the West, So you

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Speaker 3: can poop poo all you want. Austin Reeves and the

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Speaker 3: Knicks were two games from the NBA Finals. Colin after

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Speaker 3: taking down the Celtics and the Pistons. I don't see

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Speaker 3: how you can eliminate the Knicks from the ball.

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Speaker 1: The Knicks is in Minnesota, really, Oh, I think I

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Speaker 1: think Ant's getting bad. I think Minnesota's best players getting better.

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Speaker 1: We're the war I think the Warriors are tiny and old.

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Speaker 1: In the NBA. Here's two things that no longer work.

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Speaker 1: Old and small. Okay, that doesn't work.

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Speaker 3: You keep betting against Steph Curry and Lebron James. I'll

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Speaker 3: take the other side.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean, honestly, when your best player,

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Speaker 1: and at this point, if Luca can defend, he would

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Speaker 1: be their best player. He can't. So right now he

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Speaker 1: gives up twenty four and scores twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: But I old.

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Speaker 1: Look around the NBA. Old doesn't work anymore. Andy's young,

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, Orlando's young, Houston young, Okay sees young,

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Speaker 1: Boston has young players. Minnesota is hitting a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I mean one of Denver's problems they're too old. Denver's

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Speaker 1: got to get younger. I mean they do after yo

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Speaker 1: Ki just like Porter doesn't work. Jamal Murray feels like

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Speaker 1: he's a tweak away from not being available. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think by the way, Nico Harrison was asked last

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Speaker 1: night about the rumor of Jason Kidd becoming the next.

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Speaker 2: Coach, since it keeps being asked, since the rumors are

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Speaker 2: still out there, just wanted to see if you can

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Speaker 2: conclusively say that.

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Speaker 1: Jak is going to be the head coach next season.

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Speaker 1: Are the rumors still out there about Jakid?

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Speaker 9: Apparently?

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, I thought I sent him down.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he will be the he will be the coast

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Speaker 1: next year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I forget the state tax, it's a winter league, the weather,

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Speaker 1: forget the obvious stuffs, like Dallas is I think Dallas

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Speaker 1: is going to compete. I mean Dallas is going to

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Speaker 1: compete for the Western Conference finals with Houston Denver maybe. Okay, see,

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Speaker 1: I think they're that good. I still think the Spurs

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Speaker 1: are a full year away. Coming up next a comment.

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Speaker 1: I really like Stanyon Cronkey, who owns the Rams. His

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Speaker 1: son now is one of the Denver Nuggets. He made

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Speaker 1: a comment two days ago and it got me thinking

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Speaker 1: about who is truly untradeable in American sports, completely untradable that.

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Speaker 2: Next be sure to catch live editions of The Herd

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Speaker 2: Weekdays and Noone Easter Not a Empacific.

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Speaker 3: To twenty twenty six continue Sunday on Fox with the

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Speaker 3: Gold Cup Quarterfinal as the US ven's national team takes

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Speaker 3: on Costa Rica. No Easy Path, No Second Chances covers

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Speaker 3: week in Sunday at six Eastern on Fox.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now, you were very good. You were a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a soothsayer on the team USA. You said, Colin,

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Speaker 1: slow down, We're gonna fly through the group stage. What

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Speaker 1: are you predicting for Costa Rica? There's a much better team.

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Speaker 1: Give me your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: Can I just say it for tomorrow? We have a

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Speaker 3: good segment here. I want to get to it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay. So yesterday there was you know, sometimes

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Speaker 1: you just shouldn't bring stuff up. You could be on

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Speaker 1: a date, you could be in a business meeting, you

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Speaker 1: could be in the back of an uber like certain

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Speaker 1: things just don't bring up into the conversation. There's trigger words,

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Speaker 1: there's things that frighten people. So Stan Kronky owns The

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Speaker 1: Rams Great owner Josh Kronky also owns The Nuggets. R.

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Speaker 1: Cronky's his son. He's kind of running day to day.

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Speaker 1: The Nuggets president, he's running things. So he was talking

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Speaker 1: about you know, this was pre draft, and he had

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Speaker 1: this to say, frightening for us.

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Speaker 7: As an organization going into that second aprit is not

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Speaker 7: necessarily something that we're scared of. I think that there

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Speaker 7: are rules around it that we needed to be very

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Speaker 7: careful of. With our injury history. The wrong person gets

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Speaker 7: injured and very quickly you're into scenario where that I

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Speaker 7: never want to have to contemplate. And at the trading

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Speaker 7: number fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Don't bring that up in front of a microphone, not

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Speaker 1: for like nine more years. He's the best player in

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Speaker 1: the NBA. That's one of those things. Don't even complict.

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Speaker 1: You just gave sports talk radio and Denver four weeks

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Speaker 1: of off season chatter Broncos and Jokisch is getting traded, Like,

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Speaker 1: don't say that. And I was saying this. So I

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Speaker 1: was talking to the staff yesterday after the show and

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Speaker 1: I said, oh, you'd be amazed how few players are

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Speaker 1: completely untradeable. So I have the significant seven cannot trade them.

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Speaker 1: Number one is Caitlin Clark literally moved merchandise up five

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty percent for the league. She is not

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Speaker 1: only the face of the WNBA, she's the greatest face,

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Speaker 1: the most popular face ever. If Indiana moved off her,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not joking here, I think the fan base

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Speaker 1: would absolutely revolt. She's turned the fever in the league

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Speaker 1: around untradeable Number two Patrick Mahomes. It's not that he's

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Speaker 1: just talented. He's the only guy in the last twenty years.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna surpass Brady here like the worst serious here

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Speaker 1: like Brady picked up the greatest of all time a

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Speaker 1: long time ago, right like is he the guy unbelievably

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Speaker 1: marketed Kansas City was swimming an average even with Alex

646
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Speaker 1: Smith and Andy Reid A one and dinner. Can't trade him.

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Speaker 1: Most talented quarterback probably and come from behind quarterback even

648
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Speaker 1: better than Lway. Second most untradable American athlete and a

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Speaker 1: good guy. Number three show Heyo Tani. I'm sorry. His

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Speaker 1: connection to the Pacific rim. He drives road attendance. He

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Speaker 1: is better than Babe. He is the best, most talented

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Speaker 1: baseball player in the history of the sport in a

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Speaker 1: market that has I think is Dodger Stadium the biggest

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Speaker 1: stadium in baseball, It's certainly close. It's like fifty six,

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Speaker 1: fifty seven thousand. He makes Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. We

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Speaker 1: live in an event era. He makes every Dodger game

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Speaker 1: an event completely untradable show. Heyo Tani. Number four is

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Speaker 1: the world's best basketball player. The joker Listen. Denver's a

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Speaker 1: football town. The fact that they have the best basketball

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Speaker 1: player in the world. Can't trade him. I mean, best

661
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: passing big, best shooting big, one of the best scoring bigs.

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00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: Elevates your roster and when your coach got fired. He

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Speaker 1: became sort of a surrogate coast for the Nuggets. I

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Speaker 1: mean they took Oklahoma City seven, and they had no

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Speaker 1: bench outside of Russell Westbrook, so untradeable. Number five is

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I know he doesn't have a ring outside

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Speaker 1: of Josh Allen, outside of Patrick Mahomes. Privately, if the

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Speaker 1: Bills called every single team in the league and offered him,

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Speaker 1: everybody except Kansas City should take him. I don't care.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if it's Cincinnati. Girl's been hurt multiple times.

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00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: He is the most physically gifted quarterback in the league's history.

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Speaker 1: And I was an l Way Zealot. Nothing like him.

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00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: Six six, two point fifty all about team jumps over linebackers.

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Speaker 1: He's more talent than Mahomes he is. He's bigger, he's stronger,

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Speaker 1: his arms as strong. Number five Josh Allen. Number six

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Speaker 1: Aaron Judge. Aaron Judge is so great that if the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers called and said you want O Tawni for Judge,

678
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Speaker 1: they wouldn't do it. They wouldn't do it, and they shouldn't.

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00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: He is so unique. He's a mountain man. He's six

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Speaker 1: six sixty seven. He's a great guy. He's by far

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Speaker 1: and away. He's the only guy outside of Otawni that

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00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: a casual baseball fan would probably pay to see. He's

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Speaker 1: got a Paul Bunyan esque kind of gravitas. Most home runs,

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Speaker 1: He's already a record center most home runs in American

685
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Speaker 1: League history for a season, sixty two. And I'm serious.

686
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Speaker 1: If the Dodgers said we'll give you O Twni for Judge,

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't move off him. He is a beloved player.

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Speaker 1: And number seven, you're gonna think this is crazy. I

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Speaker 1: think it's Jaden Daniels. I think he is our next

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Speaker 1: superstar in the NFL. I thought last year was the

691
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: greatest rookie season by far. He took all over a

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Speaker 1: laughingstock for fifteen twenty years of franchise, relevance, maturity, arm

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Speaker 1: movement to the nation's capital. There is an argument over

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Speaker 1: the next twenty years they're going to become Kansas City

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Speaker 1: in the NFC. That kid was bizarrely good as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: You cannot trade him. So J Mackham only to his

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Speaker 1: seven you're gonna bring up I do think there's a

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Speaker 1: number eight that you're gonna jump on. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: put it in there. Who's the first one that jumps

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Speaker 1: out to. It's not on it?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I'll throw a bunch of guys at you.

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Speaker 3: We got some time here. Let me just start with

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Speaker 3: the guy who just won the NBA title, right with

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Speaker 3: the MVP of the league scoring leader finals. MVP wanted

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Speaker 3: to he's in Hallo territory SGA. I'm just gonna start.

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Speaker 3: Do you think he's tradable?

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Speaker 1: If the Denver Nuggets called and said, we'll trade you

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Speaker 1: nice title, Jo Kich for SGA, you would be a moron.

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00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: I get six eleven and a half, a better passer,

710
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Speaker 1: a mountain man. The only guy in the league, Draymond

711
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Speaker 1: Green is said in his career wave the White Flag.

712
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Speaker 1: There is no way Anthony Davis can't defend him. Draymond

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Speaker 1: can't do SGA had three bad games in the fire.

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Speaker 3: Fine, I want to lay up. I would largely agree

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Speaker 3: SGA is non in this list. Okay, but if that's

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Speaker 3: your measure, Jokic, would you do the trade Onondan Yama?

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Speaker 3: You do that in Arpe's twenty or so fifteen years

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Speaker 3: of winb Okay?

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Speaker 1: Okay. Wemby has already missed forty games with a blood club,

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Speaker 1: so what forty more interesting? That's what people said about

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Speaker 1: Chris bosh. Oh he went from an All Star to

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Speaker 1: out of the league. Big guys get hurt, blood clots

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Speaker 1: for taller players. Do I think Wemby's going to be great? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's seven to four. Nobody is really supposed to be

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Speaker 1: built to be seven to four and play the style

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Speaker 1: and pace of the NBA. I think he's going to

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Speaker 1: be great. But if I told you he had another

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Speaker 1: injury this year, he is seven to four, so you say, well, well, well, yo, hitch,

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Speaker 1: you seven feet he's two hundred and seventy five pounds. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark's hurt for the second time in two weeks.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe we had her to the list because.

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Speaker 1: There is no history of guards being heard.

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Speaker 3: Let's go Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: You're telling me that theer eat one more injury and

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Speaker 1: you have to draft a quarterback in Cincinnati? Are you serious?

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Speaker 3: Yes, you think the Bengals would actually trade Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: Second game of the year acl Tel for Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: You are drafting another quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I got a big list here. Janis He does that injury,

741
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Speaker 3: So what other quarter are you gonna play?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and can't hit a free throw late? No, I

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00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: mean does not have a jump shot. And what if

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Speaker 1: they can't get out of the first round. Since his

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Speaker 1: best teammates left can get out.

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Speaker 3: Of the first round, they waited forty years after Jabbar

747
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Speaker 3: to win a title. Giannis brought it to him. He

748
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Speaker 3: makes them relevant.

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Speaker 1: And you can't get out of the first round in

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Speaker 1: the East.

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Speaker 3: Let me hit you with Lamar Jackson, who's kind of

752
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Speaker 3: a divisive player.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen has lost playoff games, but has played brilliantly.

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Speaker 1: The criticism of Lamar is totally fair. He has struggled

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Speaker 1: in the postseason. If Buffalo called today and said, hey, Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: you want Josh. You make the deal immediately, and I

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Speaker 1: love Lamar. You make the deal immediately.

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