1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Hey, this is any in Samantha. I talking to stuff. 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: I never told your production of I Heart Radio. And 3 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: we're so excited today to be talking about another female first, 4 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: which means we are once again joined by our good 5 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: friend Eves Hive. Eves, did you eat the rest of 6 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: the cheesecake? Yes, very quickly, go by like it was 7 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: gone the next day, and it was very delicious. But 8 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: I think it's we helped because I definitely took some homes. 9 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a little bit home as well, and 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: then a little bit kept getting a bit when you 11 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: didn't have a whole cake. But I didn't think about that, 12 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: and I was like, huh, I wonder how long how 13 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: much it is gone? I'm sure, well it's been a month, 14 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: so surely God all of it's gone. But I'm just saying, 15 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: but yeah, I like, I really want to go back 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: and get some. I'm not on that side of town, 17 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: but I'm like, I need to take a trip over 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: there just to get some cheesecake. Yes, I have a 19 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: random question for your Eaves. What's your favorite season? I 20 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: would say summer because I've been saying summer for a 21 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: long time, but I think that might be like otto 22 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: and gray did me as a person who is conditioned 23 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: to not have school during the summer. But I love 24 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: hot weather. So, like I've thought about it, I'm like, 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: I feel like that late springtime is like the temperature 26 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: is really nice, then everything's in bloom during spring. Spring 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: is also I'm like a spring baby. I was born 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: right on the cusp of winter spring, right at the 29 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: beginning of spring, so it's a really beautiful season. But 30 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: I still think summer is it because the sweltering heat 31 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: is It's just something about it that makes me just 32 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: like really appreciate everything to do with, like the outdoors 33 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: and just like being all of everything, even though it's 34 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: kind of oppressive sometimes the heat. But yeah, I say summer. 35 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: I would say, my officially answer is summer. Okay, so 36 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: this is like your prime time it is, yes, Wow, 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: I think you know, one of the few people that 38 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: I know would actually say summer, especially of those of 39 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: us in Georgia where summer feels like it's half the 40 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: year with all the bugs and humidity. But wow, yeah, okay, right, 41 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: there is also, Yes, there are a lot of elements 42 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: of it being summer that I don't like, being the 43 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: bugs that you just mentioned like the spiders that build 44 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: their webs overnight. I'm always running into spiders in my 45 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: yard and just like cursing all the books that are 46 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: out but right' it's worth it to me, Like the 47 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: pros outweigh the cons. I like it. I say this 48 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: because I'm being bitten right now. I just dont two 49 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: new bug buys on my legs, so that means there's 50 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: a bug inside my house eating me as we speak. 51 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: They're rude like that, They really are so rude. The 52 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 1: bugs are rude. You're right, what about y'all? Oh? I 53 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: I used to love summer, but I think once I 54 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: was not a student, and that didn't mean you have 55 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: like three months off. That changed Now I love fall. 56 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: And that's kind of why I was asking, is because 57 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: we're in like in Georgia, the distinction isn't quite as 58 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: clear or as early as it is for a lot 59 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: of other places. But we're kind of on that place 60 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: where a lot of people are talking about fall. But 61 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: it's still like ninety degrees outside, right, So, and we 62 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: were just talking about how you know, dates and times 63 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: still feel strange. So it's just odd to me that 64 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: people are talking about a lot of fall things now 65 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: and some people are already doing their healthy shopping. Cracks 66 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: me up that I might, yeah, but it's ninety degrees 67 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: at this current moment. Yeah, but the nights, so the 68 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: nights are where you can tell a little bit of 69 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: a difference. Is starting to get a little bit more 70 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: cool cooler. And some people have been asking me about 71 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: horror movies. They're like, when are you gonna start your 72 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: horror movies? And I'm like, well, I don't really stop 73 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: because this timeline here's Samantha. You and I watched hocus Pocus. 74 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: It was my birthday and we were like, let's kick off. 75 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: That made you watch The Heathers too, which is a 76 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: little more dark like Fall slash Halloween Ish did for sure. 77 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: Apparently my niece, who is twenty years younger than me, 78 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: her and her friend group dressed up as the Heathers, 79 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: and I was like, how do you how do you 80 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: even know? How do you know this? What is happening? Yeah? 81 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: I am a Fall person as well. I think that 82 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: has everything to do with there's something about for me. 83 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: School started actually in Fall, like in that time frame, 84 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: so I think of the newness of that my birthday, 85 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: other people's birthday is typically that I know are in 86 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: the fall area. And then, yeah, Halloween was not a 87 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: big part of my life growing up. It's like I 88 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: like the candy bit, but I don't love the dressing 89 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: up bit that that's still not something that I love, 90 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: mainly because I'm not creative and I don't invest a 91 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: lot of money in it because I'm like, I'm not 92 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: paying two d dollars to dress up as character for 93 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: one day. Of course I'm not in that world so 94 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: that that's all new. But like horror movie and all 95 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: of that, definitely, but I'm also like you were out. 96 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: I can watch that oneever and I employ it and 97 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: I just want to have more of it. But I 98 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: love cardigans like nobody's business, and I will wear the 99 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: hell up. I'm still wearing a poncho during summer, so 100 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: I will keep wearing them. But knowing that it's appropriate 101 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: during this time makes me even happier. Yeah, coats are 102 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: my favorite article of clothing and it used to be 103 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: a running joke among my friends is that I have 104 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: more coats than like anything else, Like I don't have 105 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: enough coats for the number of like pants or anything. Like. 106 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: I just love a good coat also use Okay, this 107 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: is a great question. Samantha and I have talked about 108 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: it a lot, so we don't need to answer, but 109 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: out of curiosity before we get into this episode, were 110 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: you ever interested in going into the medical field? No? Never, 111 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: no never, short answer, Um, Samantha, I both were very brief, 112 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: but well, I won't say very good country. Yeah. Um, 113 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: I thought I had a plan, but it died very quickly. 114 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: My I was like, almost throughout all of my primary education, 115 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: I thought I was going to go into medical field, 116 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: but then high school senior year, I was like, never mind. Yeah, 117 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: I was pretty I was staunched writing from the beginning, 118 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: and it's pretty much never never swayed from that. I mean, 119 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's not completely true, because I was 120 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: into fashion for a minute. I had other tangential things, 121 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: but like writing was always the central focus, right, Yeah, 122 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: but probably all for being interested in medicine or medical field, 123 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: because it is like it's fascinating to me, but it 124 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: is above me, for sure. It's a lot. It's a lot. 125 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: Samantha and I hung out with somebody this weekend who 126 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: was in the nursing field and just hearing her talk 127 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: about it and like she was like taking tests over it. 128 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, that is difficult. But the reason 129 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask is because the first she bought 130 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: for us today was involved in the medical field. So 131 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: who did you bring for as eaves? Yes, So today 132 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about Charlotte Edith Anderson Montour, who 133 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: usually is just referred to as Edith's Montour. She was 134 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: the first Indigenous Canadian woman to become a registered nurse, 135 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: and she was reported to be the first first Nations 136 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: woman to gain the right to vote in a Canadian 137 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: federal election. For some reason, my mind is totally blanked. 138 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: And was like, you know, you know when you hear 139 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: a word and you think that's correct, isn't it? And 140 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: then your brain is like is it It's like Canadian, 141 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: it's not Canadian. And then I was like, no, but 142 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: it is Canadian. I is thrown in there. You have 143 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: to go before the A, right. I can see how. 144 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: It's not like I don't use that word or see 145 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: that word regularly. I don't know why my brain just 146 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: flipped out about that very interesting story reading into this one, 147 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: Um and Samantha, you were talking about you were reading 148 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: some of the journal entries that you found. So this 149 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: one is just another fascinating story that I'm kind of 150 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: angry I hadn't heard about earlier. Yeah, and it's really 151 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: not a ton that's very easily accessible out there about her. 152 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: I think that's because there's not much documentation of it. 153 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: But it's definitely worth talking about. You know, we haven't 154 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: really gotten into that many indigenous Native American first on 155 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: the show, so I think it's great that we're going 156 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: to be able to get into one today. And I 157 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: think we also we haven't We've like Maryann shaq Carry, 158 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: I feel like we've gotten into some Canadian history. But 159 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: it I'm happy to bring that to the table today 160 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: because I like to, you know, try to keep a 161 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: variety of people from different cultural backgrounds and ethnic backgrounds 162 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: and nationality. So yeah, I'm really excited about that. And two, 163 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about her either, So yeah, I'm 164 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: really excited to get into her story today. So I 165 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: think that the history of women nursing in North America, 166 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: and specifically the history of Indigenous women in nursing in 167 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: North America and Canada is like a very rich history. 168 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: It's something that I didn't know much about, but it 169 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: seems like like a place that you can really delve 170 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: deep into because there are so many ten drils that 171 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: it connects to, you know, the history of war, which 172 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: we'll get into this episode, the history of medical practices 173 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: and healing practices and Indigenous communities and also medicinal practices themselves. 174 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: It's just it touches so many different things. So I 175 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: think it's really fascinating to talk about, you know, think 176 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: about those different histories all melded into one, and Edith 177 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: Montour is definitely a part of that. She was born 178 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: on April tenth, ninety and Oschweigen and Six Nations of 179 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: the Grand River, which is the largest First Nations reserve 180 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: in Canada, which is located in southwestern Ontario. So it's 181 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: the only First Nations reserve in North America that includes 182 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: all six holding O Shawny Nations, which is it's an 183 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: alliance among the six Native American nations that sometimes called 184 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: the Iroquois Confederacy. Edith Montur was a member of the 185 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: Mohawk Nation and the Mohawker the easternmost nation in Honor 186 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: O'shawny territory. So Edith was the youngest of eight children. 187 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: She went to day school in the reserve and she 188 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: got her high school diploma at Brantford Collegiate Institute. And 189 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: once she graduated, she tried to apply to nursing schools 190 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: in Ontario, but she wasn't accepted to any of those schools. 191 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: So this is where we get into the Indian Act 192 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: in Canada, which was passed in eighteen seventy six, and 193 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: it's still in effect today, though it's been through many iterations, 194 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: many amendments, so it doesn't look like it looked in 195 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: eighteen seventy six. Obviously a lot about it has changed 196 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: in that in that time period. But it defines who 197 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: is a so called Indian, which was who had Indian 198 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: status under the Act. It gave the federal government authority 199 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: over registered Indians and over reserve communities. And it's part 200 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: of just a longstanding effort to assimilate First Nations people 201 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: into Canadian society by devaluing their distinct political, economic, and 202 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: cultural practices. So I think we talked about this before, 203 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: but a lot of more things happening in the United 204 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,599 Speaker 1: States as well. Um when it comes to efforts to 205 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: assimilating I think we may have mentioned before, boarding schools 206 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: and things that were specifically built and enacted in policy 207 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: to remove and strip Native Americans, in Indigenous peoples of 208 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: their of their own practices, their language, their ways of dressing, 209 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: all of the things um and to make them quote 210 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: unquote less savage, not my words, but less savage and 211 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: more civilized. And this was the case with the Indian 212 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: Act in Canada as well. So as part of it, 213 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: women were barred from voting and running in chief and 214 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: council elections under the Act. And they also had to 215 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: deal with the issue of enfranchisement, which in this case 216 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: is the process by which Indigenous peoples would lose their 217 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,599 Speaker 1: Indian status under the Act and become full Canadian citizens. 218 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: And that's related to this conversation in many ways, but 219 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: it's related to education specifically, where any Indians who got 220 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: a university degree or became a professional like a doctor 221 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: or lawyer would lose their status as an Indian. Enfranchisement 222 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: meant that Indigenous peoples would have to throw away their 223 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: cultural and legal identities and couldn't pass along their Indian 224 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: status to their children. So First Nations people were enfranchised 225 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: for getting a university education. They also work for things 226 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: like serving in the Canadian Armed Forces, for marrying non 227 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: Indian men, and for leaving reserves for long periods, so 228 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: on and so forth. And I'd also like to just 229 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: call out that Indigenous people have also had always had 230 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: their own caregiving practices in their own communities. So I 231 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: don't want to make it seem like the history of 232 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: Indigenous healers in Canada starts with Edith montor like she's 233 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: one part of the long history of healing practices within 234 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: Indigenous communities, and also of like in a line of 235 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: Indigenous nurses and people who acted as midwives and all 236 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: these sorts of different caretaking. There's also accounts of Indigenous 237 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: women who served as nurses and midwives to colonizers. So 238 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: it's not like she is the beginning of all of 239 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: this conversation, but she is a pioneer in the history 240 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: of Indigenous women who nursed in this way in Canada 241 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: in the United States, because she's as well get into 242 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: she was in the United States for a bit or 243 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: came to the United States, but on top of the 244 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: assimilating policy suppressing Indigenous healing practices, Indigenous women were also 245 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: largely barred from nursing programs in Canada until the early 246 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: to mid nineteen hundreds, so Montor herself was barred from 247 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: pursuing professional training in Canada. She was rejected from schools 248 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: without even getting interviews, and so many Indigenous women would 249 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: go to the US to get professional training, so that's 250 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: exactly what she did. She turned to the United States, 251 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: where she was accepted too and began attending New Rochelle 252 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: Nursing School in New York. She graduated and became a 253 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: registered nurse in nineteen fourteen, which is the first, so 254 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: she became the first Indigenous woman who's a registered nurse 255 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: in Canada. So when she was asked why she became 256 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: a nurse, she just said it was something to do. 257 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: The way that it seems like it's been explained by 258 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: family members is that like she kind of downplayed her 259 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: achievements and like the things her status as a pioneer, 260 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, she was then hired as a 261 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: nurse at a private school in New Rochelle, and she 262 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: joined the war effort for World War One in nineteen seventeen, 263 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: and in that she joined the Westchester County Unit B 264 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: of the American Expeditionary Forces Army Medical cores. So, after 265 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: more training in New York, she left for France in 266 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: February of nineteen eighteen. She stopped in Halifax, Nova Scotia, 267 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: and she arrived in France on March six. So just 268 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: for some numbers. During World War One, there were more 269 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: than twenty hundred nurses who served in the Canadian Army 270 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: Medical Core or the CIMC. SO service in the CIMC 271 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: required women to be white, to have British citizenship and 272 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: quote unquote high moral character, physical fitness, and to be 273 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: between the ages of one and thirty eight. So a 274 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: number of Indigenous women did serve as nurses in the 275 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:46,119 Speaker 1: Army Nurse Corps and the American Red Cross stateside and overseas. 276 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: In France during the war. There are twelve Indigenous women 277 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: who have been identify as doing so, but more its 278 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: thoughts that more of them did actually serve. It's just 279 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: that the record keeping is there for who those people were. 280 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: But as we can't imagine like they were definitely more, 281 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: they were definitely more. Yeah. So Edith volunteered and worked 282 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: as a nurse at based Hospital twenty three m v Tail, 283 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: France for more than a year. She was responsible for 284 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: treating soldiers who were shot or a guest, and she 285 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: sometimes worked at other medical centers in France as well, 286 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: which you mentioned earlier that Samantha. You read some of 287 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: her diary entries. Yes, yeah, she kept a journal. What 288 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: did you read? So essentially I've only got through a 289 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: little bit, but it kind of reads as if it's 290 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: like a nineteen twenties, nineteen tens kind of movie when 291 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: you were in New York and living that life. She 292 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: talks about getting legend gimbals. She talks about going to Hoboken, 293 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: going out with friends, writing letters to people saying farewell. 294 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: So she was prepping while working there, prepping to leave 295 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: apparently from what I could gather, because they started in 296 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: nineteen eighteen, So the diary was actual really handed down 297 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: their family and her daughter Helen, who she also has 298 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: a friend named Helen. In the diary, we read her 299 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: daughter Helen kept it and preserved it, and it was 300 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: so fragile that they had actually sent it off to 301 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: have it typed up, and they gave it to all 302 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: of the descendants, all of her descendants so they could 303 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: have a copee to say what it was like. I 304 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: saw that they sent it off to the Modern Literature 305 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: and Culture Research Center in Toronto as well. Yea, yes. 306 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: The thing that I really liked about this, of course, 307 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: as y'all already not really love, like the just reading 308 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: these people's stories and the fact that some people had 309 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: the like, the thought or just were interested in recording 310 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: their own stories, which we have from her, which I'm 311 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: just grateful for, because she had a diary that we 312 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: even haccess too, because she didn't have to do that, right, 313 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: but it was her. It was just before she died, 314 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: is when her granddaughter transcribed the diary, and thankfully they 315 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: didn't make it available to us, the portions that they 316 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: didn't make available, but it was she died not that 317 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: long after lived a long time by the way. Yeah, 318 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: but the diary is, yeah, it's it's really cool to see. 319 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: Like I I liked how much she talked about the weather, 320 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: which I feel like she's talking about it so much. 321 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: She's just like a sunny day, beautiful day in cloudy day, 322 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: and I love her. I also liked how she's just 323 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: like nothing happened today, uneventful. I wrote letters like that's 324 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: how like, yeah, I get that I stayed in. I'm 325 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: glad to know that I'm not the only one someone 326 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 1: who made so much history just had a day when 327 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: they just stayed in. Yeah. So it made me feel 328 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 1: a little bright. And more times she was like uneventful, 329 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: didn't do much. It was cloudy today. Yeah, I do like. 330 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: I like how mundane it is. And and just to 331 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, go through that kind of day by day 332 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: with her, even though every day isn't in there, he said. 333 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: It started. Her entries began in January of nineteen eighteen, 334 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: and they ended after the armistice in nineteen nineteen. And 335 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: I will read a couple of entries from the journal 336 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: to just so y'all get to hear a little bit 337 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: of what she wrote. So, while she was serving there, 338 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: she befriended a patient, one of the I guess more 339 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: notable or one that's been talked about a lot in 340 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: the articles that are written about her, Earl King, who 341 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 1: was a soldier from Iowa. And she said in her 342 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: diary entry on June sixteenth, nineteen eighteen, quote my pet patient, 343 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: Earl King, who adopted me for his big sister, died 344 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: at this a m at seven fifteen had hemorrhage at 345 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: three fifteen am. The poor boy lost consciousness immediately. My 346 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: heart was broken, cried most of the day and could 347 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: not sleep. That's the end of the quote. She was 348 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: pretty upset when he died, and she wrote to his parents, 349 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: and his parents visited her. She visited them, and they 350 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: struck up kind of a friendship. So that's one of 351 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: the more I guess things that she didn't really write 352 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: a ton about specific soldiers in her diary Injuries, and 353 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: she in a later interview she did say about her 354 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: experience in the war. We would walk right over where 355 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: there had been fighting. It was an awful site. Buildings 356 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: and rubble, trees, burnt, spent shells all over the place. 357 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: Whole town's blown up. She didn't really talk a ton 358 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: about discrimination that she faced or the difficulties of war, 359 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: but she does say in her last journal injury quote, 360 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: when we looked over the shell torn fields and think 361 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: of the millions of dollars in property destroyed, to say 362 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: nothing of the tremendous loss of life. We cannot wonder 363 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: that in France they bury the dit facing the north, 364 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: even in death, they dare not turn their backs on Germany. 365 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: A bit of sentiment, of course, but who can blame them? 366 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: So Edith returned to North America and soon went back 367 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: to the Six Nations Reserved in Canada, where she married 368 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: Clay brand Montour in nineteen twenty. They had five children, 369 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: which were budd, Helen, Ron, Don, and Gilbert. Although Gilbert 370 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: died as an infant in nineteen twenty nine, she continued 371 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: her nursing career and she worked as a nurse and 372 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: a midwife at the Lady Willington Hospital on the Reserve 373 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: until nineteen fifty five, and in nineteen thirty nine she 374 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: was elected honorary President of the Oswegan Red Cross, so 375 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: Yeah her nurse, saying she continued to do what she did, 376 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: which was nurse on the reservation, and as the nineteen 377 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: seventeen Military Service Act had given wartime nurses the right 378 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: to vote, that's where the other first came in, where 379 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: she was the first female status Indian and registered band 380 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: member to gain the right to vote in a Canadian 381 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: federal election, although Indigenous women in general weren't able to 382 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: legally vote federally without losing their Indian status until nineteen 383 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: sixty and her son mentioned that he remembers other veterans 384 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: encouraging her to vote in federal elections with them. Her daughter, 385 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: who Samantha brought up earlier, Helen, was a founding member 386 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: of the National Aboriginal Nurses Association, which is now known 387 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: as the Canadian Indigenous Nurses Association. But yeah, Edith continued 388 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: to serve until she retired, and in nine, like Samantha said, 389 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: they transcribed the diary and Edith herself died on April third, nineteen, 390 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: which is just before or her hundred and sixth birthday, 391 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: And she was buried on the Six Nations Reserve and 392 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: there is a memory of her and there, Edith Monter 393 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: Avenue in Brantford, Ontario is named after her, and there's 394 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: a park there that's named after her as well. So 395 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: she is What I'm trying to say is she is 396 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: recognized for her work in her pioneering status as an 397 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: Indigenous woman in nursing in Canada. Yeah, and I think 398 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: so much of this story is emblematic for what we 399 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: were talking about in our cheesecake champagne celebration of these 400 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: first of somebody like you said, she's like, well something 401 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: to do, Like she wasn't in it necessarily, like was 402 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: kind of shy about talking about her first or you know, 403 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: was just wasn't talking about it that much, but was 404 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: just doing it and then having I love that she 405 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: kept this journal that we can read. That's something I 406 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: personally really enjoy is when people are yeah, even if 407 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: there's nothing really to report, you report it and just 408 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: like yep, you know, because I think it gives you 409 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: a full picture of their experience as we do like 410 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: build up, Oh, here's there first, but there's a whole 411 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: life and a person behind that that didn't have plenty 412 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: of mundane days or did go to you know, gimbals 413 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: for lunch and like it was exciting. So I really 414 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: enjoy that aspect. Looking to her story, Yeah, me too. 415 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm really appreciative of it, I mean, and happy that, 416 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: like you know, the family made it available for us 417 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: to be able to read. And also just it wasn't 418 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: that long ago when she passed away, So just to 419 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: think about this first happening in such recent history, and 420 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: to know that she also has a living legacy is 421 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: it's nice to know and that you know, her work 422 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: people like me and you know, the three of Us 423 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: is still being uncovered and you know, we can talk 424 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 1: about it within the framework of the rest of Indigenous 425 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: American and North American history, just like it's involved in 426 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: so much. So yeah, I think it's super cool. Yeah 427 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: for sure, and that that was interesting too, where sometimes 428 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: i'll hear first tonight, I'm trying to like have a 429 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: context before I look it up, like when was that, 430 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, wow, I'm pretty recent. But yeah, 431 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: once again, Eves, we bought a great story. Thank you 432 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: so much for bringing it to your attention. Is there 433 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: anything else before we wrap up? That's all? Thank you 434 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: again for having me. Always loved being here. So oh yes, 435 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,959 Speaker 1: could y'all imagine? Though? I have to ask, like, do 436 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: you think she imagined that we would be reading and 437 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: it would be published her journal? Because for me, my 438 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: thought is, oh my god, I die, don't read my journal. Yes, 439 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: I've had this converse before. Yeah, I don't want people 440 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: to read my diary. I was I was thinking about 441 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 1: that when I was reading hers, and yeah, you know, 442 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: I know there's some stuff that was out right, I 443 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: hope so you need. I wondered to what degree there 444 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: was self censorship as well when she was actually writing 445 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,959 Speaker 1: right her diary. Of course she knew she was going 446 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: to war. I know that that. Yeah, I think you'd 447 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: already covered the fact that you know people who went 448 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: off the assumptions you're not you're probably not going to 449 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 1: come back if you're going to be there. And so 450 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: perhaps she was doing this in order to have a 451 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: lasting memory, for someone to keep that record so she 452 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: could exist. But yeah, in my head, I'm like, please, 453 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: don't read my diaries, don't don't read my journal I 454 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: kinda keep that locked. Don't do that. But they're so embarrassing, exactly. 455 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: We've talked about that. When I was growing up, I 456 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: had a diary and it had like a little key 457 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: and I, you know, lock it that you could have 458 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: just like kicked that lock, just like ripped it a little, 459 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: strapped that one across the journey, but it was all 460 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: like this past again today, like I lost, But I 461 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: wasn't ready for you to mention that one. It's true. Yeah, 462 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: So for those who are interested in finding the actual 463 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 1: diaries as they put it up, I found it on 464 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: War Diaries dot c A if anybody wants to go 465 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: and read, because it is it feels very I feel 466 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: like I'm I'm understand like, without knowing any context of 467 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: where she's at, it feels like I'm there a little 468 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: bit with her crew of nurses, I start going about 469 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: their day because she makes sure to talk about all 470 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: of the nurses around her, people around her and sharing 471 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: her experiences, so she should definitely go read it. But 472 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: it's very interesting. Mm hmm. Yeah, yeah, I unfortunately burned 473 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: my diary, but I wish I really didn't want anybody 474 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: to read yours then I really and you know, looking back, 475 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: and it was fine, it's okay, but they can laugh 476 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: at my boy ast any day. And yeah, that's the thing. 477 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: They're my diaries. Aren't this well partitioned? You know, like 478 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: everything is in there, so while you might be able 479 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: to read one page, the next one is something I 480 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't want to share with anybody. That's why you 481 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: need a good You need a good friend to go 482 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: through it first, and you're like, okay, she'd be fine 483 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: with this, can burn this forever, but like this section 484 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: is okay, yeah, min not illustrations in it and everything. Yes, well, 485 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: thanks so much as always eased for being here. Where 486 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: can the good listeners find you? You can find me 487 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: on Instagram at not Apologizing, also on Twitter at Eaves 488 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: Jeff cote Um. You can go back and listen to 489 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: episodes of This Day and History Class, which talks about 490 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: people in history and different events on days in History 491 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: by the Day, and on the podcast Unpopular, which is 492 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: about people in history who were persecuted for the actions 493 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: that they were taking. Yes, and also on this very show, 494 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: so many, many many episodes of Female First on this 495 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: here very show called stuff Mom Never Told You. We're 496 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: estimating that it's twenty six. Yeah, well we'll get ready 497 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: for our fiftieth More cheesecake, more champagne. Absolutely, okta upgrade 498 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: and maybe just do a whole like tear of cheesecakes 499 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: or something. Yes, gets bigger fireworks coming out at the top. 500 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,239 Speaker 1: Our boss Wiel lovers, Well, we did have kind of 501 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: a big send off with the champagne bottle. The last 502 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: one true went off while recording. So yeah, and listeners. 503 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: If you would like to find us, you can. You 504 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: can email us at stuffing to your mom stuff at 505 00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: i heeart media dot com. You can find its on 506 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: what are at mom Stuff podcast or on Instagram at 507 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,479 Speaker 1: stuff I Ever Told You. 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