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Speaker 2: Anthony Gargano and he is Kevin Figures, my buddy the

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Speaker 4: Good morning, my brother.

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Speaker 5: Cause I'm back of the building. Brother, what's going on?

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Speaker 5: It's good to be back.

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Speaker 2: Still works, Oh my god, that's so great to hear you.

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Speaker 2: So when our boss Scott set me, you know, and said, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're going to this weekend, switch things around a little bit,

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Speaker 2: and I want to get figy h and I want

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Speaker 2: to get k fake because he calls you.

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Speaker 3: I'm the only person who calls your figure.

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Speaker 4: Right you are you are? That's a yeah, it's all right.

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Speaker 4: It works for me. I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 3: You did it from day one.

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Speaker 2: So when we started working back with your producing for

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Speaker 2: me and Lincoln and pure It, you know, obviously huge

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Speaker 2: part of the show. So there was the three of us.

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Speaker 2: And I grew up. I grew up down the street

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Speaker 2: from a guy kidnamed Figgy figure Elli. His nickname was Figgy,

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Speaker 2: and you just always reminded me of Figgy, like great kid,

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Speaker 2: sports guy, you know this good dude. So that's where

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Speaker 2: Figgy came from. So it's great to have you back.

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Speaker 2: How's the baby, buddy, how's the family?

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Speaker 5: The baby is amazing, Anthony. He just started crawling about

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Speaker 5: a week and a half ago, So that was a

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Speaker 5: fun thing to witness. When you know, man, you know,

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Speaker 5: you get up, we roll over one day and all

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Speaker 5: of a sudden, he's, you know, four feet away from

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Speaker 5: the spot he was in previously. Then all of a

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Speaker 5: sudden he's moving around. You can't you can't keep up

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Speaker 5: with him. It's incredible how fast he's he's progressing here.

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Speaker 5: But he's amazing. He's nice, he's healthy, he's happy. It's

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Speaker 5: a great time.

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Speaker 4: It really is. I got no complaints, brother, I really don't.

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Speaker 2: God bless you, God bless your family. Than I think

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Speaker 2: that's awesome. Hey, do me a favor. Savor every moment.

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Speaker 2: I know you are, but just another reminder, because you've

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Speaker 2: been with me for a long time. Today is my

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Speaker 2: son Masimo's birthday. He's twelve. Wow, my oldest Anthony is

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Speaker 2: fifteen and he's bigger than me. And and Mosimo's on

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Speaker 2: his way.

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Speaker 5: You got a couple of Titans over there, man and

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Speaker 5: another they're player playing football, they're playing baseball for a

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Speaker 5: bit hooping.

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Speaker 4: So how are the kids doing right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we have so Anthony's uh, you know, he's

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Speaker 2: all football linebacker kind of rush ends. That's where he's at.

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Speaker 2: He's and he's rowing. So he's freshman year in high school.

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Speaker 2: He's he's what's he What do you tell me? He's uh,

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Speaker 2: he'sching like two and a quarter five hundred Like he's wow, yeah,

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Speaker 2: like he's a he's a beast.

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Speaker 5: I love that. But you know what I appreciate. We've

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Speaker 5: talked about this on the show before in the past.

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Speaker 5: You know how these kids get so specialized nowadays, and

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Speaker 5: kids are getting Tommy John at age eleven even if

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Speaker 5: they don't need it. And I really think it's important

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Speaker 5: that kids are exposed to playing a lot of different

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Speaker 5: so used to overworking their their muscles in one particular fascinating.

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Speaker 5: So the fact that he's rowing and football, the basketball

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Speaker 5: and multiple sports and multiple exposures, it's really the best

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Speaker 5: thing you could possibly do for a kid.

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Speaker 4: So I think it's great that he's doing all that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, the rowing is is great for

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Speaker 2: his lung capacity. So for football, because I'm like, dude,

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Speaker 2: you've got to be a beast out there. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: always be ready to go. Look at Cooper de Jean

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Speaker 2: right from the Eagles. Yeah, so you know, I give him,

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Speaker 2: give him that. And then the little one who's now

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Speaker 2: twelve is my you know, free sport dude. He's in

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Speaker 2: fact today we have a playoff basketball game this morning,

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Speaker 2: right after we get off the air, and uh and

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Speaker 2: I coached that team. That's our sixth grade team that

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Speaker 2: I coach. And then uh, well, I'll bring his baseball

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Speaker 2: we got to drive like an hour and a half

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Speaker 2: and he's pitching, uh to a cloud.

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Speaker 5: It's a hell of a day for him, playoff playoff basketball,

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's his birthday. And you know what I

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Speaker 2: love about him. He you know, he's like, dude, it's

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Speaker 2: you know, it's too much. You know, He's like, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I can't wait. I can't.

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Speaker 3: Like, he was so excited.

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Speaker 2: We had practice last night because we had the game today,

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Speaker 2: and so I called for practice last night and then

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Speaker 2: he was all fired up. And you know, I said, dude,

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Speaker 2: got big day tomorrow. So he was like all fired

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Speaker 2: up for today and then he and he's my quarterback too.

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Speaker 2: So you'll you'll you'll love this. You'll you'll, you'll love

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Speaker 2: this story. So the other day, you know, we throw

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Speaker 2: in the off season. We throw because it's hard with

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Speaker 2: baseball and it's different motions. So I don't want to

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Speaker 2: make him. I don't want to hurt his pitching, right,

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Speaker 2: but I still want him working on his his quarterback skills.

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Speaker 2: So we go throw and he's like, dude, Dad, I

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Speaker 2: want to throw all right, Come let's go to the field.

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Speaker 2: So we go to field and it's still a raw day.

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Speaker 2: It's like the weather is starting to break on the

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Speaker 2: east coast but still kind of raw. So he's gone,

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Speaker 2: he's getting night's arm. So he's spinning it. He's gunning it.

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Speaker 2: And you know, a couple of times I drop one

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Speaker 2: and then you know when you shake your hand because

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Speaker 3: And then I hear, I hear, uh, what are you

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Speaker 3: a sissy?

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Speaker 2: Ship?

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Speaker 4: You know that's why I haven't heard in a while.

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Speaker 4: Actually that's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: I said, would you say.

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Speaker 4: Now you heard me? Pop? I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't stutter it. He said, don't be U don't

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna give it to his old man. I

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Speaker 2: I should get over here. I gave him a hug.

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Speaker 2: I said, dude, I love it. Said that's exactly how

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Speaker 3: He's like MENI me, which is great, sounds like it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't fall fall from the tree at all.

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Speaker 2: I was like, you gotta work, man, you gotta work.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love the fact you called out,

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Speaker 2: call man, call me out. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate his competitive of nature too, And I know

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Speaker 5: this is something you and fits got into last weekend too,

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Speaker 5: talking about you know, low management and whether guys care

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Speaker 5: All Star Game and guys are their own individual corporations

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Speaker 5: and all that, and just guys who played for the

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Speaker 5: love of competition, you know, And that's a perfect example

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Speaker 5: of that right there with your kids, you know, with

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Speaker 4: I want to go because this is what I love

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Speaker 5: And that's why we got into the sports to begin with.

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Speaker 4: It's this camaraderie. It's it's the competition, it's all that.

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Speaker 5: But just because you love to do it is really amazing,

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Speaker 5: and that's that's part.

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Speaker 3: To do it, you know, Yeah, it really is.

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Speaker 2: Listen, anything becomes a job, right, so I understand that

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Speaker 2: aspect of it that you know, once you professionalize it,

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Speaker 2: and you know, even the greatest thing you eat chocolate

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Speaker 2: every day, you're going to get it right, So pizza

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Speaker 2: every day, you're gonna get sick of it. So well,

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Speaker 2: I understand that piece of it. Uh, but first of all,

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Speaker 2: what are you doing listening to the show.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, there are times I remember driving around

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Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago, right before the super Bowl,

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Speaker 4: I was going to the gym.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I get up, ear, I'm like, what are

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Speaker 5: I'm an early riser just in general, so now I'll

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Speaker 5: be I'll be honest with you. Rarely this early, as

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, so I still check in.

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Speaker 2: Still a fella, you're in the best, ude, You're at

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Speaker 2: a best So yeah, I mean we did.

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Speaker 3: We got into it and uh it was funny.

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Speaker 2: We uh we were like we kind of were at

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Speaker 2: because he got a little upset. He was talking about

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Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards missing the game and he's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: why should you want to play every night when people

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Speaker 3: And you know, it's a shame. You know.

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Speaker 2: Part of me feels bad that he has that that

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Speaker 2: feeling about it, like that, that he reacted that way,

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Speaker 2: like that that's how he feels. But part of me

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Speaker 2: also goes, dude, man, I wish you would just understand it.

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Speaker 3: A little bit more.

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Speaker 2: I know you're in the middle of it and not

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Speaker 2: everybody's you like you're you know, you're special.

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Speaker 4: You got to.

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Speaker 2: Recognize what else is around the league and they need

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Speaker 2: to take a cue from what you have that drive.

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Speaker 4: Right, you know.

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Speaker 5: And I actually went back and did a little personal

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Speaker 5: project earlier this week and looked at some of the

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Speaker 5: star players and how many games they've actually missed this

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Speaker 5: year due to low management versus injury and this year

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Speaker 5: and I don't know if because it's so competitive across

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Speaker 5: a whole lot of guys missing games for quote unquote

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Speaker 5: low management purposes. You guys have guys like Luca who's

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Speaker 5: had legitimate injuries with the calf, Jokis missed some time

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Speaker 5: with legitimate injury Giannis. But for the most part, these

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Speaker 4: Oh sports Mecca out here. Man, it's Luca Mania.

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Speaker 4: That's the most remarkable part about it. It's really fun.

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Speaker 3: I'll say that, Yeah, you wonder. You know.

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Speaker 2: My biggest peak with the trade is I don't understand it.

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Speaker 2: Like if you're going to move on because you don't

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Speaker 2: want to pay the money, all right, you know that's fair. Sure,

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Speaker 2: you don't want to invet like you know the Sixers

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Speaker 2: understand that, But you can't trade him for Anthony Davis, right,

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Speaker 2: Like that's the whole point, like you gotta trade him

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes no sense. Like so I know.

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Speaker 5: Sam Amy had a report yesterday that there was a

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Speaker 4: I understand that. I get it.

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Speaker 5: He's younger, he's an up and coming star. If you

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Speaker 5: want to make that swap, great. Minnesota said hell no,

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Speaker 5: I don't know if i'd make that trade if I

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Speaker 2: Either, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but it makes sense. That's like, all right, we

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Speaker 5: you know, we want to play defense. Sure, Anthony Davis

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Speaker 4: He's not on the floor. He's been healthy the last

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Speaker 5: I'll give him that for the most part, but throughout

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Speaker 4: It just doesn't make sense on its surface.

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Speaker 5: If look, if you're saying, I don't want to give

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Speaker 5: get a better deal. That part of it didn't make

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Speaker 2: No, and I mean just the idea, like if you're

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Speaker 2: rebuild right? Like I know you've got Kyrie, but that's

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Speaker 2: Like they were interesting, the Mavericks. They were an interesting team.

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Speaker 2: We knew that you and I have talked about having

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you were going to be.

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Speaker 2: Good fun, but you weren't going to win, And so

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Speaker 2: what are you trying to do? I just didn't understand.

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Speaker 2: You have some good young bigs. Just go sell out

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Speaker 2: and go young. Yeah, Kyrine in the offseason and go young. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Lean more into what you did last year at the deadline,

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Speaker 5: get perimeter guys, three and d guys to put around him. Look,

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Speaker 5: you made a run to the NBA finals last season.

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Speaker 5: Why did you feel they need to have to blow

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Speaker 4: Yes? So what I I Look, I don't think.

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Speaker 5: I think Look, if all things were equal, and let's

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Speaker 5: think there's still a good enough team to make a

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Speaker 5: a great front line. Defensively, Kyrie can still light it

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Speaker 4: You know, So I think that right.

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Speaker 2: You miss wing. I think you missed a wing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're you're short on the wing, for sure.

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Speaker 5: You're short another shot creator, which by the way, obviously

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Speaker 5: Kyrie and Luca are two of the best to do it,

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Speaker 2: I know, like, like if you had Kyrie, Luca and

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Speaker 2: that run last year. I just never really, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I like their young like their young bigs are good,

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Speaker 3: I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I just didn't understand why you need to why you

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: But meanwhile, that's your gain because now you've got a

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Speaker 3: You see, his greatness, his greatness is undeniable.

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Speaker 2: Yo.

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Speaker 4: He opens up the floor for everybody else.

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Speaker 5: You know, that's the thing he's getting, even if he's

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Speaker 5: Rory hatchamro who's also hurt right now. But you're just

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Speaker 5: James of all people, who was already playing at an

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Speaker 5: amazing level this last month. Now things have become more easy,

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Speaker 4: He really does, you know.

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Speaker 5: He and Steph Curry are two guys that look reinvigorated

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Speaker 4: It looks incredible.

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Speaker 3: By the way the warrior Steph is in Philly tonight.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, m hm, oh, oh, oh, is that gonna go?

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Speaker 2: If fire you right now, jump on, jump on the

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Speaker 3: All right? Just take Golden State?

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Speaker 4: What is the line on that? Do you know what

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Speaker 2: I don't know?

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Speaker 3: I walk in hold up.

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Speaker 5: We could talk to the big brain about that later too,

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Speaker 5: but yeah, na am I go am, I go am,

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439
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440
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Speaker 3: Uh.

441
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Speaker 2: Fig a couple of things. One the Big Story. Oh,

442
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Speaker 2: by the way, Golden State seven and a half.

443
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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm all over that seven and a half. I show.

444
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,160
Speaker 4: There's not a one missing in front of that seven.

445
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Speaker 2: You know why the six is played the Nicks tough.

446
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 2: The other night they got it. They were down big

447
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,920
Speaker 2: early and we were making a joke. Now, like you

448
00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 2: like betting against them? Yeah, and it feels it's awful, right,

449
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 2: Like it's gross, Like she never bet against your team. Uh.

450
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 2: But when your team is as ugly as like the

451
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 2: Sixers are and have forsaken you, I say it's it's

452
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,919
Speaker 2: free game because you know them better than anybody, So

453
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Speaker 2: have at it and go make a profit.

454
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

455
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 5: By all means, it's like, look, what are they What

456
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 5: are they doing for you other than you know, causing

457
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,679
Speaker 5: you pain and hurt every single night. So if you

458
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 5: can make a couple of shekels off of their quote

459
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 5: unquote pain, why not. You know what, You get to

460
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,719
Speaker 5: make some money and they get a chance to get

461
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 5: a higher draft pick. So unless you get to win

462
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 5: that way.

463
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 2: Well, and it's the Paul George rule right, like, so

464
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 2: if you miss three games due to a picky, the

465
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:43,880
Speaker 2: fan has.

466
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Speaker 3: The right to bet against. It makes sense to me,

467
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 3: be serious.

468
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 2: Now because you gave up this podcast.

469
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Speaker 4: Oh thankfully.

470
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 5: Now I want to get serious. You know, hey, y'all,

471
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 5: I want to make sure we compete for itampionship. I'must

472
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,479
Speaker 5: stop doing this podcast a couple of times a week

473
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 5: because now I'm serious and I want to make sure

474
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 5: I dedicate. Oh, now, you want to dedicate your craft,

475
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 5: not before when you signed a fifty plus million dollars

476
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 5: per year contract in the off season.

477
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 4: It's unbelievable.

478
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 5: The tone deafness from some of these guys is ridiculous

479
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 5: to me.

480
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Speaker 2: You're uh, you're hey, It's all right, man, I get it.

481
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 2: You know you're only eighteen games on the Fible.

482
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Speaker 6: Now.

483
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Speaker 5: Can you explain the finger thing to me too? Because

484
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 5: I know, like he tried playing through it with the

485
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 5: splint and it's like it's like a finger fracture or something.

486
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 5: But it's his non shooting hand, right, So it shouldn't

487
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 5: that far be it from me to talk about when

488
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 5: a guy isn't legitimately hurt.

489
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 4: Shouldn't play in all that stuff. But I mean, you think.

490
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Speaker 5: When you're if you're really serious and dedicated about trying

491
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 5: to help this team win a championship and you're in

492
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 5: a rut and Embead's been injured all year long, don't

493
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 5: you kind of have to power through that?

494
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know how I feel.

495
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just saying, yeah, you're closer to it, and

496
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Speaker 4: I am.

497
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Speaker 5: So I don't want I don't want to, you know,

498
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Speaker 5: I want to go to someone who actually knows the

499
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 5: day to day but.

500
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Speaker 3: From a farm, like he didn't.

501
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: Like, all right, what do you do when you hurt

502
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 2: your pinky in any sport and split in basketball?

503
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 3: Correct? Right? You tape it together?

504
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 4: Right?

505
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 3: Right? Like in basketball? You know what you're non shooting?

506
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 2: Hey, you just tape it together like what everybody does it? Right? Yeah,

507
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 2: you've been doing through time. Nobody's asking you to be

508
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 2: Ronnie Lot and hack it off right right, Yeah, like

509
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 2: nobody's asking you to do that. Just take your hit

510
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 2: your fingers together. He tried it. It's uncomfortable.

511
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Speaker 4: Well, it's also uncomfortable watching the Sixers play basketball.

512
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 5: This year, Paul, So, I mean, you know, yeah, I

513
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 5: think it's real comfortable when you're going to the going

514
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Speaker 5: to the bank to cash that fifty half fifty five

515
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Speaker 5: a million dollar check.

516
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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

517
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Speaker 2: Oh my god. And the kicker as even for him

518
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: to be they owe him five hundred million over the

519
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 2: next yeah, oh a billion dollars to six or so

520
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 2: of those two.

521
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 4: I know, you're running through screens and you're banging around.

522
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 5: There's a pain threshold situation that goes there to a

523
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 5: certain degree.

524
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 4: But at a certain point, you can't miss three consecutive

525
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 4: games over a finger, man, You can't. No, not only

526
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 4: you're down.

527
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 5: If it's your shooting hand, I get it. I actually

528
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 5: understand you're ball handling. All that stuff is affected by it,

529
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 5: but you just you just can't.

530
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 2: And and it's your pinky too, right, you know what

531
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Speaker 2: I mean? You know what I'm saying, you picky cool,

532
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 2: cool bro. You know, I don't know what to say.

533
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: This is just it's it's indicative of why I went

534
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: off last week on on the product. It's you know, guys,

535
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 2: you just bring they're just so removed from reality. And

536
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 2: and you know it's not even your fault, it's it's

537
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: everything from it starts at AU and and the lack

538
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 2: of competition is kind of the problem.

539
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, well will you that's the truth.

540
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 2: It's not about load management, even though that's you know,

541
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: we get it. It's really just the lack of competition.

542
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 2: Like the competitive what's missing is you know this this

543
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: I want to I want to eat you eat your

544
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: heart right, and like that's what's missing. The Celtics have it.

545
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 5: Right, they do. Oklahoma City has it. You know, they

546
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 5: have some fire that as some grit to them. You know,

547
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 5: say what you want about Jimmy Butler and you know

548
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 5: he bounces around from team to team and wears out

549
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 5: as welcome, but he has that uh his and his

550
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 5: situation is unique. Second round pick has to grind for

551
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 5: everything that he had. And you talked about this last

552
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 5: segment about the AAU culture. These guys growing up being

553
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 5: told that they're the greatest things in sliced bread at

554
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 5: the age of eight or nine years old and going

555
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 5: on these circuits and being friends with these guys. You know,

556
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,719
Speaker 5: back in the day, these guys didn't play against each

557
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 5: other until they got to the NBA.

558
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 4: You know, now these guys have great.

559
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 5: Relationships from the age of six, seven, eight years old

560
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,719
Speaker 5: when they're on all these travel teams.

561
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 4: So that competitive nature just isn't there.

562
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 2: Yea, And and you know what's funny, fake the idea

563
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: of it's even less than being fraternal, right, I don't mind.

564
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 2: You got buddies and the whole thing. I mean Michael

565
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: Jordan and Darles Barkley were really good friends all right now,

566
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 2: not on the floor like they wanted to beat each other.

567
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: There was a spirit when I think the competitive the

568
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: issue with AAU is it's so individual that it's not

569
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 2: about the team, right, So the games are just showcases.

570
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: They're not about winning that like your high school is about.

571
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 3: Like we had.

572
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 2: The the Public League championship game last night, we had

573
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: the Cathol League championship game in Philly and we saw

574
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 2: that the Palestra. It's it's awesome event, man, really great stuff.

575
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 7: So, uh, what.

576
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 2: Like there is this I want to win mentality that

577
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 2: you can't replicate at AAU. You know, the raiders of

578
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: the AAU. You're there to showcase, show with down. You

579
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 2: don't care if you lost, if you scored thirty, look good,

580
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: that's what you cared about.

581
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, Because you're trying to get you know, the

582
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,239
Speaker 5: shoe deal or trying to get now it's nil or

583
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 5: you know, recruiting and all that stuff that all of

584
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 5: that superseds to your point winning and these guys are

585
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 5: all individual corporations at this point in time. It's really

586
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 5: kind of a microcosmo society in general. Just yeah, we're

587
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 5: more individualistic as a society than we ever have been. Yes,

588
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 5: you know, my my wife.

589
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 4: Is a middle school teacher and they have career.

590
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 5: Days and all that, and she says, like, you know,

591
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 5: half of her students, if not three quarters, they say,

592
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 5: what do you want to be when you grow up?

593
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 5: They want to be a social media influencer? Like that's

594
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 5: this is what kids are aspiring to be now. They

595
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 5: it's the money, but it's also just the vanity of it,

596
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 5: like look at me, Look what I can do. I'm

597
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 5: all for entrepreneurship to a certain degree. Yeah, but it's

598
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 5: it's a different level nowadays, and it permeates all through society.

599
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 5: It goes from sports all the way down to just

600
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 5: your regular everyday business situation.

601
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 4: It's less about a collective and more about the individual.

602
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 4: It's kind of sad point.

603
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 2: It is sad. It's a great point because there's a

604
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 2: beauty and we yes, right, like there's you know, that

605
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 2: whole thing of team. It's way more fun, you know what.

606
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: You know what when I hope that they at some

607
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: point learn the lesson the young people, which is and

608
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: I talk to my kids all the time about it.

609
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 2: It's so much more fun to achieve something, whether that's

610
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: in sports, business, right, you work together, creative, you're doing

611
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: a movie together. That when you do it with other

612
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: people and succeed, it's so much more fun. Like, hey, look,

613
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: I'm all about you know, individual achievement, and I'm believe

614
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: in and wanting to achieve it's great. But when you

615
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: have this great success sharing it with other people, otherwise

616
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean as much.

617
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 3: It's a little lonely.

618
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: It's great that you've achieved the mountaintop, but if you

619
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: have no one to share it with, you know, yeah,

620
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: way better together.

621
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, what are you ultimately doing it for?

622
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: You know?

623
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 5: If is it just so like hey, I can you know,

624
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 5: make a lot of money and go on these trips?

625
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 5: It's like, all right, that's and I forget exactly who

626
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 5: said this. I was listening to a podcast a few

627
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 5: weeks ago. He's like, what difference does it make if

628
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 5: you have all the money in the world and you

629
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 5: have literally nobody to share any of it with, or

630
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 5: no one to share these experiences with. If you're written

631
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 5: a super yacht and you're on it by yourself, how

632
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 5: enjoyable can that actually be?

633
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: Exactly?

634
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 4: And so I think that's kind of what gets lost.

635
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 5: And you know, and talking about this from a macro

636
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 5: sense when it comes bringing it back to sports. You know,

637
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 5: basketball is the one sport where you have the ability

638
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 5: to actually hot dog it and play individually within the

639
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 5: team game and not really have the rest of the

640
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 5: team in consideration. You know, I can give the ball

641
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 5: to a guy every every time down the floor and

642
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 5: have him do his thing.

643
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 4: Football is not even built for you to be able

644
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 4: to do that. You have to run as a collective.

645
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 5: If all eleven guys are not playing, you know, in sync,

646
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 5: somebody's gonna get hurt, a play is gonna blow up.

647
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,239
Speaker 5: You're not gonna have success. Even in hockey, you can

648
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 5: have great individual players, but it's still centered around the team.

649
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 5: You know, you got to have a guy give you

650
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 5: an assist for the most part to be able to succeed.

651
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 5: And I think that's what makes the basketball so much

652
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 5: more unique. Than any other sport. Yes, it's five men,

653
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 5: Especially defensively it makes a difference. But on offense, you

654
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 5: can grab a rebound, run down to the court, never

655
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Speaker 5: pass the ball once, and if you're talented enough, do

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Speaker 5: your thing on a night and night out basis.

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Speaker 4: Other sports just don't lend it to that.

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Speaker 5: You can't be successful in the NFL, even as a

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Speaker 5: great individual player, unless you have helped from somebody else.

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Speaker 2: And it's interesting because if football is number one sport, right,

661
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Speaker 2: we love we love it now. We love it because

662
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Speaker 2: it's weekly all but right, it's such a production. Football's beautiful,

663
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Speaker 2: like the the old line working in tandem is a

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Speaker 2: shootiful thing. Man, Like when you're when you're working together

665
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Speaker 2: like that that Eagles team, that Eagles old line is

666
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Speaker 2: tighty tight. I mean, it's part one of the things

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Speaker 2: I love. It's a great lesson for life.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like we all win when we all do

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Speaker 5: our jobs and we everybody does their job to the

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Speaker 5: greatest ability that they possibly can, and look what can happen.

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Speaker 5: You know, you can have a phenomenal player like Saquon Barkley,

672
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Speaker 5: who we all know is is uber talented, but his

673
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Speaker 5: talent is wasted in a place like New York who

674
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Speaker 5: doesn't have their stuff together, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: he goes from that to what I think should have

676
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Speaker 5: been an MVP season with Philadelphia because he's with an

677
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Speaker 5: organization that knows what they're doing with a team and

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Speaker 5: a scheme that uses his abilities h to the highest level.

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Speaker 5: That's a great example right there. A great, a great

680
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Speaker 5: individual talent with very little around him, very little help,

681
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Speaker 5: does next to nothing or as much as he possibly

682
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Speaker 5: could in New York, and he absolutely flourishes when he

683
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Speaker 5: goes to a team with the cohesive unit with good coaching,

684
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Speaker 5: and it's beautiful to watch when it all comes together.

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Speaker 2: Really, Amen, brother, Amen, all right, speaking of football, you

686
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Speaker 2: know we're gonna dive into it.

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Speaker 4: Man. Oh yeah, Oh it's combined time. He's all over it.

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Speaker 4: I know it was coming like.

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Speaker 3: The you're here, Like here's the two things that I

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Speaker 2: First and I love fits you right, like we all

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Speaker 2: we're all buddies, me you him, big wink, I mean, brother,

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Speaker 2: the whole thing like when you when I found out

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Speaker 2: was you Like, oh man, I got giddy because I

695
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Speaker 2: was like, all right, we're going to keeek out football

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Speaker 2: Draft combine, and then we're gonna geek out baseball absolutely

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Speaker 2: springs here where the Fellas Kevin figures. I'm Anthony Gargando.

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Speaker 2: Fellas hanging right here at Fox Sports Radio. Fellas Kevin

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Speaker 2: Figures Anthony Gargando from the Tyraq dot Com Studios. Mighty Mark,

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Speaker 2: Priana Brianna was kiddy that you were in today.

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Speaker 4: Oh my sister from another myster, Bree.

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Speaker 5: Good to be back working with with her, with you,

703
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Speaker 5: with Mark, it feels like it's been like nine years

704
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Speaker 5: since how I worked with you guys. So when I

705
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Speaker 5: got the call the bat signal went up from Scott,

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Speaker 5: I answered it immediately.

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Speaker 1: I literally like texted Mark like asap, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: guess what.

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Speaker 2: It was so exciting.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I missed you guys greatly. It's good to be back,

711
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 5: you know, always a fella. We know that obviously, a

712
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Speaker 5: but uh, but it's been a little bit. So I'm

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Speaker 5: I'm happy to hop in and contribute whoever I can,

714
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Speaker 5: whenever I can on this great show of ours.

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Speaker 4: I really love it.

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Speaker 3: You're the best. You're the best.

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Speaker 2: Big story. The big story yesterday was Stafford. Now you

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Speaker 2: know you're there first of all, the Raiders. Interesting because

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Speaker 2: you're a Raider fan. How did you feel about Stafford?

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Speaker 2: And first of all, you knew that they were in

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Speaker 2: Montana for a reason. I know that they go there before,

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Speaker 2: but there's no coincidences that Brady and Stafford are to

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Speaker 2: get it right, so you get it. He could have

724
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Speaker 2: went to the Raiders, he could have went to the

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Speaker 2: Giants ultimately goes back to the Rams. What's your thoughts

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Speaker 2: as a Raider fan and someone covers the Rams?

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Speaker 5: Well, so I'll start with as a Raider fan, I

728
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Speaker 5: would have been all for it because you're a team

729
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Speaker 5: that's trying to fight for legitimacy.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he puts you over the top.

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Speaker 5: It makes you a Super Bowl contender, but he makes

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Speaker 5: you real if that makes any sense.

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Speaker 4: He's all right, you know, we're being serious.

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Speaker 5: You were willing to go out and spend money on

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Speaker 5: a big time quarterback who can put us in the hunt,

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Speaker 5: you know. And Pete Carroll coming in at already the

737
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Speaker 5: oldest coach in the NFL. He's not in for a

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Speaker 5: giant rebuild. This is not a seven year project for him.

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Speaker 5: He thinks he can come in and turn this thing

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Speaker 5: around quickly and the fastest way to do that is

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Speaker 5: to get a legitimate star at quarterback. Now, even if

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Speaker 5: they would have traded for Stafford, I still think they

743
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Speaker 5: would have used that six pick on a quarterback here

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Speaker 5: in the draft to cultivate behind him. So what this

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Speaker 5: does just kind of set them back a little bit

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Speaker 5: more when it comes to the quarterback position. For Stafford individually,

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Speaker 5: the best thing that he could have done was stayed

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Speaker 5: with the Rams the Raiders. In a macro sense, the

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Speaker 5: Raiders and Giants are not going anywhere. Those are rebuilds.

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Speaker 5: You would have been contributing to changing the culture in

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Speaker 5: those two franchises had you gone there. But with the Rams,

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Speaker 5: you were knocking on the door of beating the Philadelphia

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Speaker 5: Eagles in Philly in a snowstorm in a playoff game.

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Speaker 4: Why would you mess with that?

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: And by the way he made the throw he makes

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Speaker 2: to Pooka down the sidelines, incredible.

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Speaker 3: I mean that game was in serious peril. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: That was the only time all year that the truthfully,

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Speaker 2: in the last you know, after the week after the

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Speaker 2: first four games of the season, that was the only.

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Speaker 3: Time they were in really in real trouble.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been steamrolling everybody for from a weekend week

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Speaker 5: out basis, and here comes the upstart Rams with this

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Speaker 5: young defense. Yes you have the veteran Matthew Stafford, but

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Speaker 5: Pooka Nakua Cooper Cup.

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Speaker 4: They were still what they want to trade.

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Speaker 5: I would still try to find a way to restructure

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Speaker 5: his contract and keep him because I still.

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Speaker 4: Think he's good when he's healthy.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 5: This just and also I think the jumping the salary

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Speaker 5: cap probably helped with this a little bit because it

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Speaker 5: went up higher than many people thought it would by

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Speaker 5: about twenty million dollars or something like that, so that

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Speaker 5: probably didn't hurt the situation. But I think the best,

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Speaker 5: the best thing for Matthew Stafford at this point in

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Speaker 5: time was to stay with the Rams. You've made three

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Speaker 5: hundred and seventy five million dollars, I think his career earnings,

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Speaker 5: and far for me to say, you know, mess with

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Speaker 5: somebody's money, But at this point in time, you've made

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Speaker 5: a lot of money. Try to submit your legacy and

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Speaker 5: try to get yourself another Super Bowl championship. And the

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Speaker 5: best path for that for this offseason or for this

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Speaker 5: upcoming season was with the Rams, not with the Raiders

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Speaker 5: and not with the Giants. If the Raiders and Giants

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Speaker 5: were the only two places, legitimate places that you could

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Speaker 5: have gone to, the Rams were a no brainer. I'd

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Speaker 5: rather take ten to twelve million dollars less to stay

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Speaker 5: with the Rams and have a chance to win than

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Speaker 5: to cash out in Las Vegas or New York.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I'm completely with you. It just makes way

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Speaker 2: more sense for you to do that. Yeah, I do

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Speaker 2: a plot now, you know it's gonna be interesting with

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Speaker 2: the Raiders. Do a quarterback because I do like Brady's aggressiveness,

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Speaker 2: and you know he's got Chip Kelly. Now, I don't

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Speaker 2: know how he's gonna be this He, my guess, is

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Speaker 2: will be better in this being away from the pro

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Speaker 2: game and going back and doing it at Ohio State

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Speaker 2: and all through college. My guess he'll be better this time.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't want to be a head coach. He wants

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Speaker 2: to just call plays where I think he's best at.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, i'd agree.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'll say this, he definitely did not want to

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Speaker 5: be a head coach at the college level. I'll say that,

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Speaker 5: And I was fairly evident in his last couple of

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00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 5: years at UCLA to be honest with you, he was.

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Speaker 4: Just over and I get it. By the way guys

810
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 4: are leaving left to right.

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Speaker 5: The Bowling Green head coach just left to become the

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Speaker 5: quarterback coach in Philly.

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Speaker 4: I believe like this is happening.

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Speaker 5: You know that a couple of head coaches have left

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Speaker 5: the last couple of years for assistant jobs at the

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Speaker 5: NFL level because they don't want to deal with the

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Speaker 5: nil and all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: I certainly understand that part of it.

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Speaker 5: I think Chip still has designs of being a head

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Speaker 5: coach at the NFL level, and I haven't heard this anywhere.

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Speaker 5: I'm just putting two and two together. If things go

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Speaker 5: well with the Raiders in Las Vegas with Pete Carroll,

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Speaker 5: it would not surprise me if Chip Kelly as part

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Speaker 5: of that succession plan to be the head coach in waiting.

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Speaker 4: It makes sense to me. I know things didn't.

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Speaker 5: Necessarily go great in Philadelphia, but he did have a

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Speaker 5: winning record out there. I know he turned a lot

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Speaker 5: of people off with the way that he acts in

829
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Speaker 5: his attitude, but he's he knows how to coach football.

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Speaker 4: I'll give him that.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though, I don't think he works as

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Speaker 2: a head guy now and here's why. All right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he had a winning record. His first year was really good.

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Speaker 2: But he he went from a big first year and

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Speaker 2: then he declined every year.

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Speaker 3: And I think it's because of his relationships.

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Speaker 2: He's not a personable guy, right, And I mean you

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Speaker 2: see the difference with Sirianni. He's not some ex ando genius.

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Speaker 2: They love him. They have a great culture there.

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Speaker 4: They do. You're right, maybe he's thrown from it as

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Speaker 4: possibly could have grown.

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Speaker 2: Hey, where the fella is right here at Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Let's put the bed because we're at the end of

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Speaker 2: our segment. We were talking about Chip Kelly, the Raiders

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Speaker 2: and the idea that you got Pete Carroll, and you

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Speaker 2: know what w's Chip's role is it to be a

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Speaker 2: head coach? Is it just to be a play caller.

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Speaker 2: It's my belief that Chip Kelly is better at you

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Speaker 2: just dialing up plays. He's got no relatability to players. Figure.

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Speaker 2: So I look at him and I go, the guy

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Speaker 2: knows the game. You're right, like he knows football. Man,

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Speaker 2: That dude knows football. But he's a bit of an

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Speaker 2: a hole to be hod of you.

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Speaker 4: That's an understatement.

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Speaker 5: The media members feel the exact same way players he's

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Speaker 5: running foul of in the past.

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Speaker 4: And I will say this, Anthony, because you bring up

872
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 4: a good point.

873
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 5: You know, being a head coach is even less about

874
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 5: x's and no's and more about you know, people talk about, oh,

875
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 5: you're more of a CEO, but it's true you have

876
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 5: to deal with the media and pr staffs and players

877
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 5: and not players from even off field things on top

878
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 5: of on field situations as well. So and that's something

879
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 5: that's just not Chip's strong suit. So I do agree,

880
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 5: he's better probably at calling plays than he is as

881
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 5: being a head man. I would just say he did

882
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 5: have at least a measure of success in Philadelphia his

883
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 5: first year and now, granted to your point, didn't end

884
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 5: well there, and then San Francisco was at disaster. So yeah,

885
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 5: you're right, maybe he's better student to just be a

886
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 5: play caller.

887
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: And Ula was a disaster, it was, right, So I

888
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: think he's better off because I think he's an alien,

889
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, He's got that alien kind

890
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 2: of way about him, like just stay you know, stay upstairs.

891
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 3: A cold place, all right, like you know, yeah that's shit.

892
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 4: Yeah I do.

893
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 5: I was just I do think his his as a

894
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 5: higher for the Raiders as oc. I think it is

895
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 5: a boon for them because they needed some more creativity

896
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 5: to needs someone who's dedicated to the run game, which

897
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 5: Chip is. I know, people get caught up on it's

898
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 5: a high flying offense and all this. Everything that he

899
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 5: did was always based off of being able to run.

900
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 2: The football correct.

901
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 5: So I think him as an offensive coordinator was a huge,

902
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 5: you know, home run higher for the Raiders. From a

903
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 5: head coach standpoint, yeah, we can debate whether or not

904
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 5: he's he's fit for that. I think I do want

905
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 5: to give guys room to grow to a certain degree,

906
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 5: and I do think he did a little bit in

907
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 5: minor interactions with certain people at UCLA. Whether or not

908
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 5: he's grown enough to where he can be a legitimate

909
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 5: head coach at the NFL level again remains to be seen.

910
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 5: But we're just an offensive coordinator standpoint. I think he's

911
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 5: one of the best HighRes the Raiders could have made

912
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 5: it that position.

913
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean you look at it, and I

914
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: think it's interesting. Not every O C who has success

915
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: should be a head guy. I'm curious to see what

916
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson is gonna do, right because Ben is now

917
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: he's obviously much different than than Chip Kelly, but similarly,

918
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: he's very good at x'es and o's, Like, really, he's

919
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: a really good play caller. I don't know, he's he's

920
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 2: a little quiet, he's a little unto himself, Like it's

921
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: personality speaking. It's going to be interesting to see, you know,

922
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: if he can be that. You know that head coach.

923
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: Now you don't have to be you know, charismatic and

924
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 2: Tony motto right from any given Sunday, you don't need

925
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: to be that or you know, the cinema coach, but

926
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 2: you do have to have a degree of relatability. One

927
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: of the things that makes Andy Reid a great, great

928
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: coach is he's related. He loves his players. You talk

929
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 2: to any of his players, they love him. They absolutely

930
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: love him that. He has great relatability with his players.

931
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: And it's something that people don't see. I saw it

932
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 2: firsthand all his players. Look, you think he likes saying

933
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: bundle Uski, bundle Uskie, like he really, he has no interest.

934
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 2: He doesn't spend a quarter all right, I know Andy,

935
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: He never walked around cash in his pocket. All he

936
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 2: wants to do is coach football. The money's irrelevant. So

937
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: and he doesn't like a lot of attention. So the idea.

938
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: And I remember talking to him and I said, it's something.

939
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 2: When the campaign first started. I texted him. I was like, dude, yeah, right,

940
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 2: you know whatever it was whatever in the state farm

941
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 2: it was before the Bubblarooski thing. Yeah, And he said,

942
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: this is Patrick gaves me to do it anything. I'll

943
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 2: do anything for Patrick.

944
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 5: That's awesome, anything for one of my players. Now, granted

945
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 5: Patrick's a star player, but to your point, the relationships

946
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 5: that you generate with your players, And wasn't that not

947
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 5: a knock on Sirianni to a certain degree early on

948
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 5: with him too, and he kind of had to grow

949
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 5: into that, you know. So that's the thing that I

950
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 5: would say, at least be encouraged with with Ben Johnson.

951
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 4: Look, this is something that he has to grow into.

952
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 4: You have to give him a little.

953
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 5: Bit of time because it's a new situation for him,

954
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 5: you know, so all he's used to is calling plays

955
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 5: and this is the hard part. I would love to

956
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 5: speak to a GM and maybe you've talked to Howie

957
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 5: Roseman about this. You know, how do you differentiate or

958
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 5: know that a guy can can transition from being a

959
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 5: phenomenal coordinator to being a head coach because it's two

960
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 5: completely different skill sets. Yeah, and it's really hard to

961
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 5: evaluate whether or not somebody like that's you know, it's

962
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 5: few and far between. Sometimes you'll have, you know, position

963
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 5: coaches automatically get thrust into a head coaching position because

964
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 5: people say this guy just kind of has an it

965
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 5: factor to him. But you know, usually how this works

966
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 5: is you have great success as an OC or a

967
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 5: DC for a couple of years, your name gets hot

968
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 5: and someone's hires you because you're able to excel on

969
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 5: one side of the ball. But that doesn't mean you

970
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 5: could be a great CEO, just like we talked about

971
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 5: with Chip Kelly. So it's just, you know, when you're

972
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 5: in the interview process talking to some of these guys

973
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 5: like a Ben Johnson, you know, how do you figure

974
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 5: out whether or not they have the chops to be

975
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 5: a legitimate head coach versus just being a good play caller.

976
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great point.

977
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: And and you know part of it is you you know,

978
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: NFL staffs are so big, Yeah, that you got all

979
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 2: those people that you got to deal with, right you know? Now,

980
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 2: I think Philly Nick Nick's always had really good relationships

981
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 2: with his players, Okay. The only one that is it's

982
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: weird that they're not really that tight. Is Jalen?

983
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 4: Right, the most important one, you would say.

984
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, And I just think I think that's more

985
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: on Jalen than on Nick. Okay, in the sense that

986
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: I just think Jalen is is a little different, is

987
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 2: a different personality. I think a lot of those dudes are,

988
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: you know, you know, Jalen's different than that he was

989
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: coach's son Texas. You are at Alabama, you are at Oklahoma,

990
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 2: You're you're not part of the You're not part of

991
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 2: the group, is if this makes sense, right, Like most

992
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: of the fl locker room is. You know, there's a

993
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 2: degree of grunt, right, Yeah. Even Aj Brown as elite

994
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: a player, he is like he's he's and people think

995
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 2: he's a dva. He's not. He's a great He's actually

996
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: a great dude, a great teammate and and very like

997
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 2: down the earth, and like he and Syrianny are real close,

998
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 2: like they're they're they're very close, and it's weird. Jalen,

999
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: I just think it is a different type of person.

1000
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 5: Guy just kind of marches to the beat of his

1001
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 5: own drummer, and like, you know, you know, there there

1002
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 5: was there's a you know, I mean some guys are

1003
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 5: like that, you know, they're just a little different.

1004
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, So you know it's interesting. The head

1005
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 2: the head coach, you gotta deal with. You have to

1006
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: be a CEO, right, you have to deal with all

1007
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: your staff. The Eagles are lucky because they have great

1008
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: assistant coaches. You know, you know, first of we got

1009
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: Staltlin on who's the best line coach in the history.

1010
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 2: And then you got you don't even have to worry

1011
00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: about Fangio on defense. So you have you know, you

1012
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: need to deal with your all your coaches. You've got

1013
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 2: to relate to the players. And then you also have

1014
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 2: to have big picture stuff, right like what your practices

1015
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 2: look like? Are we tackling enough? Like the one thing

1016
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 2: the Eagles had to learn that Syrian diy learned is

1017
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 2: that he needed to tackle more in practice, and then

1018
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 2: they became the best tackling team in football.

1019
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 5: Weird how that works rock today's day and age of

1020
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 5: no padded practices and no physicalities, like, you gotta get

1021
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 5: it somewhere.

1022
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: You gotta find it when you can exactly exactly. No,

1023
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 2: you're you're you're spinal and so I don't know that.

1024
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 2: You know, we'll see if Ben Johnson's that guy. You know,

1025
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 2: I think I think he's got a chance. I just

1026
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 2: don't think chip I mean, having covered him on a

1027
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 2: daily basis, I didn't say it.

1028
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with that.

1029
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 5: There have been plenty of people who did not thrive

1030
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 5: as head coaches but did great as position coaches.

1031
00:49:58,960 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 4: Or offensive coordinate.

1032
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 5: Mark morning Rig is one who I think came back

1033
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 5: and joined Andy in Philadelphia after things didn't work out

1034
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 5: well for him in Detroit, and for all intentsive purposes,

1035
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,479
Speaker 5: is lauded as an excellent quarterbacks coach and offensive mine.

1036
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 5: It happens nothing. There's no shame in saying, hey, this

1037
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 5: role isn't necessarily cut out for you, but you can

1038
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 5: excel at another spot. It's excellent. I do think it's

1039
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 5: great that guys at least get the opportunity. I'm excited

1040
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 5: to see what Ben Johnson can do in Chicago to

1041
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 5: see if he can turn that thing around. Look, he

1042
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 5: has all of the requisite weapons in place the offense,

1043
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 5: at least his side of the ball should hit the

1044
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 5: ground running, you would think, considering what he was able

1045
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 5: to do in Detroit when they kind of had to

1046
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 5: rebuild that thing from the ground up after trading away

1047
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford, he needed a great job there. So I'm,

1048
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 5: if I'm a Bears fan, I am cautiously optimistic about

1049
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 5: what impact he can have from year one with Chicago.

1050
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I'm with you on that. So a couple

1051
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: of things. One, because let's give you this to make

1052
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 2: this football hour. We you know, we play a lot

1053
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 2: of promos for other shows, and I heard Jason Smith

1054
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 2: talking about this and he wanted to he wants to

1055
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: take Travis Hunter.

1056
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 3: Over Abdul Carter.

1057
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: And I know that the Abdul Carter came out with

1058
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 2: the foot, right. I guess this was even before that,

1059
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 2: because he was talking about, you know, you're getting the

1060
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 2: two way player and a superstar and all this stuff.

1061
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 2: I gotta say this, with all due respect to Jason,

1062
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 2: it's not even close. Like if you came to me

1063
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: and told me you were taking Travis Hunter over Abdul Carter,

1064
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 2: I would fire you, all right. Yeah, Abdul Carter is

1065
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 2: a game wrecker, right, and there's a reason why you went.

1066
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: You win when you have great d linemen and you

1067
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 2: build a great old line. That's it. Like you know,

1068
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 2: yeah you need a quarterback and yeah you need some

1069
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 2: skill guys, but the foundation of any winning team starts

1070
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: on the fronts. And you have a chance to get

1071
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: a guy like that Duel Carter trusts me that I've

1072
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: seen that dude. I know that kid. He's from my area,

1073
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: he went to Penn State. He is a monster, a

1074
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 2: game wrecker.

1075
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 5: I and I don't know if people just get caught

1076
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,959
Speaker 5: up in the flashiness. And by the way, Dravis Hunter

1077
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 5: is a spectacular player, and I don't know if he

1078
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 5: can really keep up his valume of playing both sides

1079
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 5: of the ball at the NFL level like he is.

1080
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 4: I do think he's gonna have to pick a position

1081
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 4: at some point.

1082
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 5: He's not playing, you know, one hundred and sixty snaps,

1083
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 5: you know, combined on offense and defense at the NFL level.

1084
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 4: That's just not realistic. I know a lot of people feel.

1085
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 5: Like he's more impactful as a corner than he would

1086
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 5: be as a receiver. And maybe he's a gadget guy

1087
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 5: on offense, which is fine. A shutdown corner is an

1088
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 5: important position. But to your point, how the Philadelphia Eagles

1089
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 5: win the championship a dominant offensive line and the dominant

1090
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 5: defensive line that basically did not allow the greatest quarterback.

1091
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 4: In the NFL right now to do anything.

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00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 5: And we're in his face from day one, and Jalen Hurts,

1093
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 5: who's a good quarterback and made some big plays when

1094
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 5: he needed to, but for the most part, was a

1095
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 5: game manager. And that's not a derogatory statement to make

1096
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 5: about Jalen or anybody, right he just wasn't asked to

1097
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 5: do much because he didn't need to because the infrastructure

1098
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 5: around him was so great it didn't matter. Infrastructure is

1099
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 5: built from the front back, not from the back front.

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Speaker 5: So to your point, give me abdua Carter, give me

1101
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 5: the dominant defensive lineman over a defensive back any day

1102
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 5: of the week. I don't know how you can justify

1103
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 5: unless you're just trying to sell tickets and say like, hey,

1104
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 5: this guy's an exciting young player and he'll make spectacular

1105
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 5: catches interceptions.

1106
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 4: That doesn't help you win football games. It really doesn't.

1107
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 5: It's the grittiness upfront that helps you win. So I'm

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00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 5: with you one thousand percent. A dual Carter is easily

1109
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 5: the number one pick for me.

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00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's great. And by the way, you get

1111
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: someone that's listen, I get the whole Travis Hunter thing,

1112
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 2: and I agree with that. He's a go a football player

1113
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: and he will have to pick a position. But let's

1114
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 2: make no, let's let's keep it real for a second.

1115
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: Having a dominant defensive lineman is equally impressive. You're talking

1116
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: about selling tickets, all right, Like you know, I get

1117
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter, but it's not like you're giving me a quarterback,

1118
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: running back, skill guy, offensive guy, because as a receiver,

1119
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I mean, he's gonna be all right,

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00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 2: but he's better to me he's a defensive back.

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00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 5: I'll use a perfect example. So we talked about me

1122
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 5: being a Raider fan. So I have two examples on this.

1123
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 5: So if you remember Nan Diassein Wah was a defensive back,

1124
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 5: came out of cow They didn't.

1125
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 2: Know what I remember. Being a great actor, he was exactly.

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00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was a really good actor, but was a

1127
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 5: better football player in his prime. Was one of the

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00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 5: best shutdown man demand corners in the NFL for probably

1129
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 5: a six year round what he was with the Raiders.

1130
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 4: The Raiders might have.

1131
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 5: Won eight games in like his six years or something

1132
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 5: while he played for them, Like as great of a

1133
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 5: player as he was, made very little impact. Fast forward

1134
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,959
Speaker 5: about a decade and they draft Khalil Mack. Khalil Mack

1135
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 5: was a phenomenal pass rusher, still is Defensive Player of

1136
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 5: the Year on a defense that was ranked like twenty

1137
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 5: third in the NFL or something. But he's single handedly

1138
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 5: won games for them. A big game late in the

1139
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 5: season against Cam Newton and the Panthers, who were a

1140
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 5: playoff team, got a couple of big sacks and forced

1141
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 5: to turnover one games almost on his loansome on a

1142
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 5: below average defense, but because of the position that he played,

1143
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 5: the impact that he had, they made a run to

1144
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 5: the postseason. Derek Carr gets hurt late in the year,

1145
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 5: so they didn't get a chance to actually see what

1146
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 5: they could do in the postseason. But that is a

1147
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 5: perfect example right there of the difference between a defensive

1148
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 5: back and a defensive lineman. And this is one defensive

1149
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 5: lineman having an impact on an entire team. You don't

1150
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 5: get that impact from a defensive back. That's how that's

1151
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 5: the hell important it is to draft someone like an

1152
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 5: Abdul Carter over a corner.

1153
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 3: You spot on, man, spot on it really spot on.

1154
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 3: I heard that.

1155
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 2: It was just like no, no, I listen.

1156
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 5: Cornerbacks are cherries on top of a cake. They're not

1157
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 5: the foundation, They're not the flower, you know what I mean?

1158
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 4: If that makes any sense?

1159
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, you know I just go off the

1160
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: Eagles because you know they won it and it's right

1161
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: in front of you, but you know they had already

1162
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 2: had a great offensive line. Yep, they The reason why

1163
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: they won was their D line. Jalie Carter was a

1164
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 2: complete game wrecker and Nolan Smith came on from Georgia

1165
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 2: and the two of them were just anchors to that

1166
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 2: D line.

1167
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 3: Then they added this year Cooper.

1168
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 2: Dejen and Quinnyon Mitchell and it was great because they

1169
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 2: were great ads. They game at the end of the

1170
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 2: first round, right end of its second round, and you

1171
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: got you got two real good corners at the end,

1172
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 2: Like that was your let that there is your cherry

1173
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 2: on top.

1174
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 4: Correct.

1175
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 2: Carter was the top ten pick he got lucky with

1176
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: and he is. He was the complete game wrecker.

1177
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 5: And that's what you need, and that's how you win

1178
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 5: football games. To your point, it's it. And I don't

1179
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 5: understand how there's so many teams that seem to be

1180
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 5: missing this, Like it's really as simple as build an

1181
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 5: offensive line, build a defensive line, and fill in the

1182
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 5: gaps everywhere else.

1183
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really that simple.

1184
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 5: Now, I'm not saying it's not that simple to find

1185
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 5: players who confruct the profile and make the plays.

1186
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 4: I'll give you that, but.

1187
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 5: Philosophically speaking, and look Howie Roseman has mastered this through years.

1188
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 5: Look at how many great teams the Eagles have had

1189
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 5: over the past twenty years, going back to the McNabb days.

1190
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 5: I mean, and you had good defensive linemen, you know,

1191
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 5: your Douglasses and Indie Kulous and all these guys, and

1192
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 5: it was always.

1193
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 4: Just a steady rotation of guys. Keep drafting them the

1194
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 4: first second round. You keep drafting them.

1195
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 5: Some will hit, some will not, and some guys just

1196
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 5: end up becoming good rotation players. That's fine because it's

1197
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 5: a position of attrition. But you have more depth and

1198
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 5: guys that can come in and shake things up up front.

1199
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 4: You're always going to have a chance to compete. It's

1200
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 4: very few and far.

1201
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 5: Between that you find a football team that has a

1202
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 5: quality offensive and and or defensive line that isn't at

1203
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 5: least in the conversation of being a playoff team on

1204
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 5: a year in year our basis.

1205
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 2: That came from Amy Reed, that whole thing came from him.

1206
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: And then you look at it and you know Chris Jones.

1207
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 4: Right, yep, absolutely absolutely, All.

1208
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 2: Right, let's take a quick to oh, we'll come back

1209
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: and let's talk quarterbacks. All right, Let's talk some combine

1210
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 2: and this is a fascinating quarterback draft because it's not

1211
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 2: easy and it's not obvious, right, So we're going to

1212
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: dive into the QBS. Coming up where the fellas Kevin Figures,

1213
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 2: Anthony gar got right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1214
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,640
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1215
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1217
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:26,200
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1218
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,200
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1226
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 2: fig dive into One of the stuff that we love

1227
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 2: about the draft is always the quarterbacks.

1228
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 3: Right.

1229
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 2: We love the combine too because that's the one skill

1230
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 2: you know. The forties Gray and I'm a Goofbay. I

1231
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 2: liked the bench and in the shuttle, but throwing, seeing

1232
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 2: guys throw, seeing guys spin it is awesome. It's like,

1233
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just something that we've always loved.

1234
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 4: It is.

1235
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 5: But so do you have an aversion to guys like

1236
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 5: cam Ward saying like I'm not gonna throw at the combine.

1237
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 2: I'll wait until my pro day? Do you have a problem.

1238
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I mean, truthfully, you know, I

1239
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: talk about the combine, but really I'm just talking about

1240
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 2: in general to con use for the draft.

1241
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 3: The combine itself is really just for interviews.

1242
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 4: Correct me.

1243
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 5: I think a lot of fans don't understand that, like

1244
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 5: it's the underwear Olympics and you forty yard dash times

1245
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 5: and all that stuff.

1246
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that it's not important.

1247
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 5: But I had a conversation with Daniel Jeremiah couple of

1248
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 5: years ago and ask, like, you know, the combine. People

1249
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 5: get so caught up on forty times and all that stuff,

1250
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 5: Like how important is that actually to NFL like teams

1251
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 5: in front offices?

1252
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 4: And he said, honestly, it's it's really like.

1253
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 5: A tie breaker, like if it's if if we're torn

1254
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 5: on a guy and one guy ran a four to

1255
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 5: two and another guy ran a four three five, and

1256
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 5: we think they're even another every other metric, well, we'll

1257
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 5: go with the four to two guy. But to say

1258
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 5: that there's some meteoric rise that a guy makes because

1259
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 5: we thought he was going to run a four to

1260
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 5: four and he ran a four to three to two,

1261
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 5: it's just really not that big of a deal. Fans

1262
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 5: get more excited over that stuff than teams actually do.

1263
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 5: Teams value the medical evaluations and the interview evaluations way

1264
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 5: more than any of the physical measurable stuff.

1265
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 2: And truthfully, that's all that this this is, I mean, honestly,

1266
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 2: that's really all this whole combine's about. Yeah, it's a

1267
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 2: way for everybody. It's every industry needs a convention where

1268
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 2: everybody's together, and truthfully, that's where it's at. Like look

1269
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 2: at the news that's come out already, like the Matt

1270
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 2: Stafford stuff right like that. That's really it's a place

1271
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 2: where you go and there's coaches, i mean really your scouts.

1272
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:20,919
Speaker 2: There's GMS coaches, scouts and agents and everybody's there and

1273
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 2: everybody's talking and there's rumors and it's a big convention

1274
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 2: and yeah, they do all their drills and they do

1275
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 2: that stuff, but really it's not about that. It's about interviews.

1276
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 2: Like I'll give you a perfect example. So I love

1277
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 2: I'm close with the McCords, right, Kyle McCord, and Kyle

1278
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 2: had two interviews with the Saints, Like the Saints Kellen

1279
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 2: Moore interviewed him and then he interviewed him a second

1280
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 2: time yesterday, right like that that's what that's you know,

1281
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 2: how you doing that interview is a big deal, Like

1282
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 2: you're a quarterback and that's a that's a big part

1283
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 2: of this thing, the interview, Like kind of guy am

1284
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 2: I getting?

1285
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 3: Who am I gonna?

1286
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 2: What is it?

1287
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 3: What is he like?

1288
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 2: You know what happens when you know, we all these

1289
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 2: psyched tasks on, but just to kind of get to

1290
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 2: know a guy because you're gonna be a quarterback, You're

1291
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 2: gonna be a face of a franchise.

1292
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 4: Right, which I find interesting.

1293
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 5: So I don't know if you saw Shador Sanders press

1294
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 5: conference yesterday morning, and he was very for me personally,

1295
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 5: there was a there was way too much I I

1296
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 5: I and me, me, me for him, and I realized

1297
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 5: he's a confident guy. He's a really good player, obviously,

1298
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 5: and I'm sure a lot of that comes from the

1299
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 5: influence of his father, who was the same way.

1300
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 4: But he went off.

1301
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 5: About like, how you know I've won everywhere I've gone.

1302
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 5: I helped turn around Jackson State and I turned around Colorado.

1303
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 4: And he didn't really give a lot of mention.

1304
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 5: To Travis Hunter, didn't mention his dad, didn't mention the

1305
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 5: other players and his teammates. He was like, you want

1306
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 5: a guy that wins and that turns things around, and

1307
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 5: that's what I do. And I've told the teams that

1308
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 5: I've spoken with this is how I am, and this

1309
01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 5: is how I'm wiring. You see what you get, which

1310
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 5: I respect. He's confident, he's fully being himself. I respect

1311
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 5: that part of it. And I don't know if it

1312
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 5: would necessarily give me pause to not draft him or anything.

1313
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 5: You have to obviously see a little bit more and

1314
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 5: get more depth just this. It didn't sit well with

1315
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 5: me that he stood up there at the podium and

1316
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 5: say it like I turned around Jackson State, I turned

1317
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 5: around Colorado.

1318
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 4: I'm a winner, I'm a program changer.

1319
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 5: There's a goes going back to what we started the

1320
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 5: show talking about the III, me me, me individual, individual,

1321
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 5: visualistic culture. And that was just an example of that

1322
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 5: that I'm just not the biggest fan enough that I

1323
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 5: saw from Shador.

1324
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:36,959
Speaker 2: Yesterday, Yeah, I saw it, and I agree with you, dude,

1325
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 2: I do. I kind of I lament that, to be

1326
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 2: honest with the eye. It bothers me.

1327
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 5: But would that give you pause to take him, to

1328
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 5: draft him? Or say, if he and cam Ward were

1329
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 5: one and one A on your board, would you say, like, hey,

1330
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 5: you know what, even if cam is more is deficient

1331
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 5: in some area that Shador is stronger at the personality

1332
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 5: aspect of it, respect more or I I appreciate more

1333
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 5: from cam or somebody else whoever, more than Shade or Sanders.

1334
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 5: What his act with the way that he carries himself,

1335
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 5: the way that he speaks, give you pause to draft

1336
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 5: him as your franchise quarterback.

1337
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 2: No, because here's the thing. One I know will handle

1338
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 2: the spotlight. So No, it's gonna come down to whether

1339
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 2: or I think he's good enough? Right yep, like honestly,

1340
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 2: like like what I prefer him to be different at

1341
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 2: a little a little more humility, Right, Yeah, I would,

1342
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 2: I would prefer it. But listen, here's the one thing

1343
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 2: I do need. I do need stones, right, like I

1344
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 2: I know that you're not gonna melt.

1345
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 3: It's funny.

1346
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 2: I just I have this talk with Masomo right where

1347
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 2: my son and so I I it's it's teaching. It's

1348
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 2: always teaching stuff, like when you're dealing with kids and sports,

1349
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 2: and like if he misses a couple of bunnies or

1350
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,919
Speaker 2: like he's a really good offensive like he's he could

1351
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 2: shoot the ball from from he can shoot the ball

1352
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 2: from the perimeter, all right, but if he misses a couple,

1353
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 2: he gets gun shy, right yeah, And he's like, well,

1354
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,439
Speaker 2: and a couple of times, like he had a couple

1355
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 2: of putbacks and now he's passing out of it. I'm like, no, dude,

1356
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 2: you get, you get. If you got an offensive rebound,

1357
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 2: you gotta go right up with it. You're gonna go

1358
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 2: be strong and go attack the rim. He'll go right

1359
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 2: up with it. And you know, I know it's because

1360
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 2: he missed a couple of open shots. And he's like,

1361
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 2: you know, and I'm like, dude, and I give him

1362
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 2: the AI story. I'm not saying you'd be selfish take

1363
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 2: bad shots, but if you're open, you got to shoot

1364
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 2: and you're down low, you got to shoot like That's

1365
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 2: what it is. Like.

1366
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 3: It's the same way in baseball.

1367
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 2: You know, if you're not, if you're if you're Ozero

1368
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 2: for four you struck out. You know four times, you

1369
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 2: gotta believe at the fifth time at the play you're

1370
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 2: gonna hit a home you know, you're gonna get on,

1371
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 2: You're gonna get You're gonna have a good at bat,

1372
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 2: you're gonna hit a home run. Whatever. I look at

1373
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: Sanders where I go, I don't have to worry about

1374
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 2: with that. With him, like he believes in himself, even

1375
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 2: if it's a facade, he believes himself, and I need that,

1376
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 2: like I need that piece of him now again. I

1377
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 2: wish he was more humble, but that I like the

1378
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 2: fact that he believes himself.

1379
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 4: I agree.

1380
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 5: So for that reason is why, even though he's saying

1381
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 5: a lot of things that I'm not the biggest fan of,

1382
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 5: if I believe in the player, I would still take him.

1383
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 5: And because I do think culture matters. Where you go

1384
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 5: to matters. I use Baking Mayfield as a perfect example,

1385
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 5: you know, because he had a lot of swagger and

1386
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 5: was very confident when he came out, and you know,

1387
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,919
Speaker 5: Cleveland probably was not the best situation for him where

1388
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 5: he had to go and basically help try to help

1389
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 5: set the culture. Didn't work out for him. It took

1390
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 5: him a few years to try to mature. I do

1391
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 5: think where these guys land, the coaches, the front office

1392
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 5: doesn't matter, you know, And so I like having the confidence.

1393
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 5: It just needs to be rained in a little bit

1394
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 5: by a little bit of humility, and oftentimes that's just

1395
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 5: learned with experience, but I think also more often than not,

1396
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 5: it's learned from the culture that you're brought into. So

1397
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 5: I think I appreciate his confidence. He stood back there

1398
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 5: and has taken a beating the last couple of years

1399
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 5: behind really average a below average offensive line. So you know,

1400
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 5: he has an element of toughness about him. He can

1401
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 5: play the game, he's smart, he's talented. I just think

1402
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 5: that the other stuff, I think can be worked on

1403
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 5: to a certain degree if he's in the right spot.

1404
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 5: So even though I'm not a fan of mm being

1405
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 5: an eye guy, I still think that he can be

1406
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 5: an asset to the team and with the right culture,

1407
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 5: can turn into a really, really good quarterback.

1408
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree. I like cam Board. I

1409
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 2: think he's getting kind of shrapnel in the fact that

1410
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 2: this is not a deep quarterback draft, right, and it's

1411
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 2: not a lock quarterback draft, right, Like, you know, you

1412
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 2: look at last year and you went, all right, you

1413
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,799
Speaker 2: know Caleb who I still think is gonna be a player.

1414
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 2: You knew Jaye Danigels you when I loved him, if

1415
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 2: you remember absolutely, uh, like you knew that they were

1416
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 2: player Like Bob Nicks would probably be the number one

1417
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 2: quarterback selected in this draft. He's nothing I like cam

1418
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 2: Ward though I I do. I flicked. I think he

1419
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 2: could sling it.

1420
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,759
Speaker 5: Well, he can throw. He's played in multiple different offenses.

1421
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 5: The guys played in nine different schools. I'm exaggerating, but

1422
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 5: started adding carnate word, you know, and worked his way

1423
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 5: to Miami and has had a great career. So I

1424
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 5: think there's something to be said for having, you know,

1425
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 5: that sort of run of success in so many different

1426
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,799
Speaker 5: places and having to adapt to so many different coaches

1427
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 5: and so many different offensive systems, along with the natural

1428
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 5: arm talent that he has. Yeah, look, if all things

1429
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 5: are equal, and this was a you know, if you

1430
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 5: took you an amalgamation of all the quarterbacks from the

1431
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 5: last let's say three years and put him in like

1432
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 5: just a quarterback draft. Cam Wore is probably knocking on

1433
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 5: the door of the bottom eight or something like that,

1434
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 5: between eight to ten. But I still think that he's

1435
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 5: talented enough to be a franchise quarterback. His height is

1436
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 5: a bit of a concern to a certain degree, is

1437
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 5: a little small, but I think he has all the

1438
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 5: arm talent and all the experience. Seems to be a

1439
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 5: good kid and a great teammate. I would, honestly if

1440
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:20,759
Speaker 5: I if I had a top pick, I would probably

1441
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 5: take him over Shad Or.

1442
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 4: To be honest with you, as much as I like

1443
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 4: Shdor Sanders, I can more.

1444
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 3: I would too, and that's why I brought that up.

1445
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 3: I would too.

1446
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 5: So somebody who gets slept on and he's not going

1447
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 5: to be a first round pick, but who has that

1448
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 5: confidence and has some moxie to him too, and doesn't

1449
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 5: have the arm talent, which is probably why he's probably

1450
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:41,759
Speaker 5: somewhere in the second or third round.

1451
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 4: I really like Jackson Dart.

1452
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 2: He's so I talked to a scout and then the

1453
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:52,839
Speaker 2: GM and we were talking about this stuff. Apparently Jackson

1454
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 2: Dart is one of these risers.

1455
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 3: Okay, that. It's funny you brought him up that he's rising.

1456
01:10:59,560 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 7: Now.

1457
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 2: Only thing with him is you know, first of all,

1458
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 2: you had Lan Kiffin's offense. You had it was it

1459
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 2: was an offense the best that money could buy, right,

1460
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 2: you had basketball receivers like I was comparing to him.

1461
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 2: And admittedly I'm biased, right because I love the kid

1462
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 2: is Kyle McCord. Right, So Jackson Dart and Kyle McCord.

1463
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 2: McCord I thought was scapegoaded by Ryan Daiane, Ohio State

1464
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 2: goes to Syracuse and just throws it all over the field, right.

1465
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 4: An amazing season.

1466
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And how many of his receivers are in uh Indianapolis.

1467
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 2: Probably not, I'm not really sure, but probably exactly. That

1468
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 2: was the point, Like he didn't have what Dart had

1469
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 2: around him. It's only my point. Like when you look

1470
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 2: at when you look at and you look at him,

1471
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 2: and he's sixty three and he could spin it, man,

1472
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 2: he could really spin it. He's got a really good arm.

1473
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 2: I don't know that people understand how good his arm is.

1474
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, you're right, and I look I like him too.

1475
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 5: I think Jackson Dart probably gets a little bit of

1476
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 5: a bump because he played in the SEC and had really,

1477
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 5: you know, good numbers, and you know, Kyle McCord.

1478
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 4: Did have a great season.

1479
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 5: But it's not like syrah Ques is necessarily playing against Alabama,

1480
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,600
Speaker 5: you know, every every other weekend either And that's not

1481
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:24,640
Speaker 5: his faults. He'll only play who's in front of you,

1482
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 5: and he dominated the competition when he did play. Dark

1483
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 5: for me is just a guy who's like, he's a

1484
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 5: good athlete, has a really has a solid arm. I

1485
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 5: don't think he has the best arm. I do think

1486
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 5: in the right system, he's the kind of guy that

1487
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 5: can really thrive. And he's someone who hasn't really been

1488
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 5: talked about a whole lot. And honestly, again, we talked

1489
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 5: about quarterback classes and this isn't a strong class. Jackson

1490
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 5: Dart's probably like a fourth round pick or something. If

1491
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 5: it's like a regular year, right, he gets bumped up,

1492
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 5: like all these guys get bumped up because quarterback is

1493
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 5: a premium position and there's so few of them. But

1494
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 5: Dart is just a guy that I think if you're

1495
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 5: looking for sleepers to come out, someone who could make

1496
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 5: an impact a lot of people that's not on a

1497
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 5: lot of people's radar.

1498
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 4: That's not a first round pick. I think Dart is

1499
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:05,600
Speaker 4: a guy to pay attention to.

1500
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, a shuck is one that a lot of people love.

1501
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 4: He's the one I don't understand, to be honest.

1502
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 2: With you, the people I just take a lot of them.

1503
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 2: I mean they see six y four, right, yea? They Yeah,

1504
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 2: he's also thirty years old.

1505
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, look he has them.

1506
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 5: And I guess a lot of teams nowadays are not

1507
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,719
Speaker 5: turned off so much by the age of quarterbacks because

1508
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 5: these guys are playing into their early forties or you know.

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01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 4: Thirty thirty nine.

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01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, but guy, I look at a guy that can't

1511
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 5: stay healthy. He has the physical measurables which people are

1512
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 5: always gonna fall in love with.

1513
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 2: Huh.

1514
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 5: But I mean, if you can't stay on the field,

1515
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 5: isn't that not the most important? If I'm right, use

1516
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 5: a draft picked on a guy who I can't even

1517
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 5: rely on to be on the field. You know seven

1518
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 5: times out of ten? Why would I do that? It

1519
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 5: doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

1520
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 3: Take quick too.

1521
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 2: Will continue to go over the quarterbacks draft, baby, that's right.

1522
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:57,679
Speaker 2: Geeking it out with Figgy where the fell is Fox

1523
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 2: Sports Radio? Fellas figure Cuz hanging with you guys, Ah,

1524
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 2: what a treat fits you on. We'll be on a

1525
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 2: little bit later on today, and don't forget we come

1526
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 2: your life from thetiraq dot com studios. All right, we're

1527
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 2: talking about the quarterbacks of this class of twenty five

1528
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:27,839
Speaker 2: and you're brought up, Schuck, I feel you. Yeh, Scott's

1529
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 2: love him. They drool over him. It's it's so interesting.

1530
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,560
Speaker 2: But I think it's all because of them measurables. I

1531
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 2: think you're spot on. They see six y four, they

1532
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 2: see stature, they see an arm, and they go, all right,

1533
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 2: we love them.

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01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 5: I mean, do we not learn like history is littered

1535
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 5: with guys who have all the physical measurables in the world.

1536
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying this.

1537
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 5: I don't know anything individually about you know him, his

1538
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 5: mental aspect, makeup and all that stuff. But just because

1539
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,600
Speaker 5: you have the physical ability doesn't mean that you have

1540
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 5: the the mental acuity, the way to feel a pocket,

1541
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 5: to not get sacked, to make the plays downfield, all

1542
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 5: of that. And I think we just fall in love

1543
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 5: with physical measurables so much. Watch the guy play and

1544
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 5: he had good production. He might end up being a

1545
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 5: great player. I have no idea, but just based on

1546
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 5: his lack of availability and his inconsistent production, which is

1547
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 5: what I go off of just watching the guy actually

1548
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 5: play the game. You can run fast and jump high

1549
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 5: and bench press five million pounds five thousand times, that

1550
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 5: does nothing when it comes to actually strapping on the

1551
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 5: pads and a helmet and playing on the field.

1552
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 4: How do you play when the lights are on on

1553
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 4: the field is what matters to me.

1554
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 5: And I don't know if I saw enough for him

1555
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,560
Speaker 5: to say like, well, this is my guy, this is

1556
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 5: my franchise quarterback right there.

1557
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 4: He just doesn't scream that to me.

1558
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I feel the same way I do. I

1559
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 2: feel the same exact way. All right, let's keep going.

1560
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 2: A guy that I really don't like is Huers.

1561
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you on that. I've never been a

1562
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 5: big bat fan of Quinn. Yours one thing I will

1563
01:15:58,080 --> 01:15:59,560
Speaker 5: say about him, and I'll give him credit for this.

1564
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 5: He played well enough dealing with all of the Arch

1565
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 5: Manning controversy this entire season.

1566
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 3: So and the injury.

1567
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 5: The injury injury was legit, right, and when Arch comes

1568
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 5: in and plays as well as he played when Quinn

1569
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 5: missed that game, You're like, oh, my god. So there's

1570
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 5: a certain mental makeup of Quinn Ewers that I love

1571
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 5: and respect for him.

1572
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 4: To thrive and play as well as he played and

1573
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 4: just have to deal.

1574
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 5: With that all season long. I will give him that.

1575
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 5: Other than that, there's very little that impresses me about Quinn.

1576
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 5: You were to be honest with you, Yeah, I I

1577
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 5: mean he throws in lights ball. I mean, you know,

1578
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 5: I mean, I just don't hate the way she's the field.

1579
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 5: I'm just not a fan. I mean, you know, nothing

1580
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 5: against He's a great kid. I'm just I'm just not

1581
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 5: a fan of No.

1582
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 4: There's just there's some inconsistencies there.

1583
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 5: He has, you know, a couple of throws a game

1584
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 5: where you're like, huh, that was your decision, huh, you know,

1585
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 5: stuff like that, you know, and when you don't have

1586
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 5: great arm talent, which he has a good arm. He

1587
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 5: doesn't have a great arm. Not a great athlete. He's

1588
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 5: a guy who I think you have to have a

1589
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 5: lot around for him to be successful.

1590
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 4: You know, he's not gonna do a whole lot on him.

1591
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,480
Speaker 5: And look, there's very few players that can win regardless

1592
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,600
Speaker 5: of their situation. But when you're talking about top quarterbacks,

1593
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 5: and whether a guy could be a franchise player or not.

1594
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 5: You know, you want to be able to work around

1595
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 5: a player's deficiencies, and for Quinn, I think there's more

1596
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 5: deficiencies than there are things that are actually upsides for

1597
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 5: him that work against him. So he needs to be

1598
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,640
Speaker 5: in a very specific system, quite honestly. And I think

1599
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 5: Dylan Gabriel is kind of in this situation too. I

1600
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 5: just think those guys are probably better as backups somewhere.

1601
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 5: Even as productive as Gabriel was throughout his.

1602
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 3: Career, he's just small too.

1603
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 4: He's just very.

1604
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 5: Small, doesn't have a strong arm. But if he's in

1605
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 5: the right system as a backup, I think he can

1606
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 5: be really good. He can be a stopgap for three

1607
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:43,640
Speaker 5: or four games if you need him. But he's not

1608
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 5: a franchise guy.

1609
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 7: No.

1610
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 3: Now, Now, the guy that is interesting to me, but

1611
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 3: he needed to go? What's that?

1612
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 4: There were coming down to it the last couple of minutes.

1613
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 4: Here is all Mark was saying.

1614
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry, Mark, Yeah, I thought it was you.

1615
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 2: Uh. The guy that interests me is mil Row right, Yes,

1616
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 2: but he has to he should have stayed. I know

1617
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 2: that from me, You know, I hear that Alabama. They

1618
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 2: were both ready to move on, but you got to

1619
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 2: go somewhere else. You're not ready yet. He's not ready

1620
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 2: to be in the in this league. He's got, you know,

1621
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 2: ridiculous athleticism. He's strong is all get out. He's really

1622
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 2: a specimen. But he's still got to learn about windows.

1623
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: And he's got it because he's got a big arm.

1624
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 2: I mean, he's got all the athleticians in the world,

1625
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 2: but man, he's just so raw.

1626
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 5: I think he's looking at the success of Jalen Hurts

1627
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 5: and says, if Jalen can do that, why can't I.

1628
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 5: Now to your point, Jalen Jalen with Alabama and went

1629
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 5: to Oklahoma a pass had the offense, and was able

1630
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 5: to refine his passing ability. There are people, there are

1631
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 5: some scouts who say that Jalen is ahead of where

1632
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 5: or he Yeah, Jayalen Milro was ahead of where Jalen.

1633
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 4: Hurts was at this point in time in his career.

1634
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 5: I don't necessarily see that, but I'm not a scout

1635
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 5: that watch his film like that, so I'm not sure.

1636
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 5: I do think Jayalen can thrive again, depending on the

1637
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 5: system he's in. If he goes to a place like

1638
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 5: the Raiders. Let's say at chip Kelly Shotgun Base, run Base,

1639
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 5: where he throws most of his throws are outside the

1640
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 5: numbers as opposed to end between the numbers, he can

1641
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 5: potentially have success.

1642
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 4: But I do agree with you. I think he would.

1643
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 5: He would benefit for coming back from another year. It

1644
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 5: can help his draft stock even more.

1645
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't think he's ready for NFL coming.

1646
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 4: I don't think so either.

1647
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I just don't think he's rout. Think he

1648
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 2: can play next year. He's got to go somewhere where

1649
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 2: they really work with him. It's shamed because he should

1650
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 2: have stayed. And I don't know why when you're getting

1651
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 2: paid and you're not gonna be a first round pick.

1652
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 3: Where the fell is right here? Fox Sports Radio.

1653
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,960
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1654
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1655
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1656
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1657
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Speaker 2: geeking it out this morning, Figgi and I going through

1666
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 2: all figures a great sports me. So it's fun to

1667
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 2: actually go into every little nuance, like we gotta hit

1668
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 2: college basketball before we get out of here.

1669
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 3: We gotta go.

1670
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 2: I was gonna start with draft, so I was gonna

1671
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 2: go do our NFL kind of breakdown of kind of

1672
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 2: what teams you're looking for the off season.

1673
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 3: Give us a chance to talk about each of the teams.

1674
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 3: All right, we'll get back to some NBA and we.

1675
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 2: Gotta do some baseball, absolutely, all right, real quick on

1676
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 2: the baseball, yep Otani.

1677
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:20,679
Speaker 3: First, that home run articularly, are you kidding me, dude?

1678
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:21,600
Speaker 7: He is?

1679
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 2: I mean, we are witnessing Babe Ruth, all those guys,

1680
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 2: those mythical people, the players that we had heard about.

1681
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:31,600
Speaker 3: He's it.

1682
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 5: You know, sometimes eras get lost, you know, through through

1683
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 5: time and you hear about these great players in the

1684
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 5: legacies and all that.

1685
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 4: Can you hard it's hard to conceptualize that just in

1686
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 4: the last I'd say ten twelve years.

1687
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:46,759
Speaker 5: What we're witnessing from a guy like Lebron James, who's

1688
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 5: doing what he's doing at the age of forty and

1689
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 5: has dominated the NBA for twenty years, show Hey Otani,

1690
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 5: who hasn't even reached his prime yet, is so dominant

1691
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 5: as a hitter and when healthy, also as a pitcher.

1692
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 5: To your point, stuff that we haven't seen since Babe

1693
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:05,799
Speaker 5: Ruth did it. That we're living in such a golden

1694
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 5: era of individual spectacular play at the highest level is

1695
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 5: really something to see.

1696
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 4: Not to mention, this is Showy.

1697
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 5: Tony's first that back coming off of shoulder surgery in

1698
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 5: the offseason, and the guy could barely even swing at

1699
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 5: in the World Series. You know, he was basically out

1700
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 5: there as a decoy in the last couple of games

1701
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 5: of the World Series because the shoulder was so messed up.

1702
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 5: Still rehabbing from it, by the way, Anthony says, not

1703
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 5: one hundred percent, probably won't be for a few months,

1704
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 5: just kind of work trying to work through it and

1705
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 5: deal with it while also, by the way, still recovering

1706
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 5: from Tommy John and won't be back on the mounth

1707
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:37,719
Speaker 5: until the summer.

1708
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 4: It's unreal. So this guy isn't even human.

1709
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 3: What he's doing, Well, what's the timetable him pitch it?

1710
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 5: So I think as of right now, they're probably looking

1711
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 5: at June, probably at the earliest.

1712
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 4: They're going to handle him with kid gloves.

1713
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,600
Speaker 5: Obviously, this is his second Tommy John, even though they

1714
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:57,719
Speaker 5: said his procedure was categorized differently and it's not quite

1715
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,560
Speaker 5: Tommy John, but for all intents and purposes, it was

1716
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 5: his second time of John surgery and that's just something

1717
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 5: that you don't want to mess with. So he's going

1718
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 5: to rejoin the rotation probably sometime in June. They're gonna

1719
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 5: give him an innings limit. We don't know exactly what

1720
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 5: that's gonna look like right now, but he's gonna be

1721
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 5: able to hit the ground running when it comes to

1722
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 5: to swing in the bat as a dh which obviously

1723
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 5: he made waves last year just you know, putting up

1724
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 5: spectacular numbers.

1725
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,640
Speaker 4: But this Dodger rotation is just so deep. I mean,

1726
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 4: they went out on this giant space.

1727
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:30,679
Speaker 5: I've never seen a defending champion and you've been around

1728
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 5: for a long time, Anthony, so maybe you have a

1729
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,680
Speaker 5: defending champion in any sport, be that aggressive in the

1730
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 5: offseason to try to improve themselves even more. It's pretty

1731
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 5: unprecedented in my lifetime in watching and covering sports.

1732
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I don't recall that. I don't maybe

1733
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 2: the Yankees back in the day, I don't know. I mean,

1734
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 2: but no, I'm with you. I mean, the way that

1735
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 2: they have kind of been that aggressive, it's it's scary.

1736
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 2: They're scary. They're just so the only thing that could

1737
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 2: derail them is a it's baseball, you never know what's

1738
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 2: hot and that sort of thing. And an injuries obviously,

1739
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 2: because the collection of arms is really impressive. But there's

1740
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 2: some injury concerns.

1741
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 5: There, oh there are, and they have a lot of

1742
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 5: guys who they're going to be relying on this year

1743
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 5: that are coming off of injury.

1744
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 4: But consider the fact that they won the World Series.

1745
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 5: Basically every other day was a bullpen game for them,

1746
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 5: like so to try to avoid that from happening, they

1747
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 5: tried to bring in some reinforcements in the starting staff.

1748
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 5: The crazy thing is, even if some of those guys

1749
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 5: end up getting hurt and they find themselves in October again,

1750
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 5: they have the confidence of knowing, you know, way we

1751
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 5: bullpened gamed our way to a.

1752
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 4: World Series Championship last year.

1753
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 5: It's not something that you can rely on, but it's

1754
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 5: something that they know that they can do, and they

1755
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 5: brought it, even bullpen reinforcements to Gates O the world

1756
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 5: and I mean it just never stopped.

1757
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 3: Look at their uh your rotation is sick, like it's

1758
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 3: just sick.

1759
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 7: Right.

1760
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 3: So Glass now I love is amazing.

1761
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 2: I love his arm. Snell Sazaki, Yeah, I'm a mooto.

1762
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 2: I mean you kid, Oh Connie when he's back, I

1763
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 2: mean that's crazy.

1764
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:20,560
Speaker 4: And you have guys coming off of it.

1765
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 5: Tony Gonsolin was an All Star before he got hurt

1766
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 5: a couple of years ago and went down with Tommy

1767
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 5: John So he's going to be back.

1768
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 4: Dustin Maze the guy who's really good, he's going to

1769
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 4: be back.

1770
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 5: And then to throw it in there when it comes

1771
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 5: to the bullpen, let's bring in a former an All

1772
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 5: Star from Tanner Scott and Kirby Yates.

1773
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 2: And Trin Right Scott Yates, Oh my god, I mean

1774
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,759
Speaker 2: you're just talking about big arms.

1775
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:47,640
Speaker 3: It's that's insane.

1776
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 5: But to your point, and with all these people talking about,

1777
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 5: you know, the luxury tags and deferred payments, and the

1778
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:57,600
Speaker 5: Dodgers have found loopholes and have broken the system. To

1779
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 5: your point, it's baseball. Like the team with the highest

1780
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 5: payroll before the Dodgers won it last year. I think

1781
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 5: it's happened like every maybe two or three times over

1782
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 5: the past like twenty years, as the team with the

1783
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 5: highest payroll actually won the World Series.

1784
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 4: So the idea that you can.

1785
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 5: Buy a championship just doesn't play itself out because, to

1786
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 5: your point, baseball just doesn't lend itself to that. Teams

1787
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 5: that are hot, you know, a pitcher, a couple of

1788
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 5: hitters for an opposing team get hot, and all of

1789
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 5: a sudden, you know, you have the Arizona Diamondbacks making

1790
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 5: it to the World Series, which nobody saw coming.

1791
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,679
Speaker 4: These things happen all the time in a sport like baseball.

1792
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 5: So what the Dodgers are trying to do is to

1793
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 5: try to make sure that they put themselves in the

1794
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 5: best position to be able to compete for a championship

1795
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 5: with the postseason rolls around, because they know, like we

1796
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 5: all know, it's a giant crapshoot. The Dodgers have had

1797
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 5: the highest payroll or one of the highest payrolls in

1798
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 5: all of baseball. For the past eleven years, they've won

1799
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 5: two championships, won in the Bubble, and won last year.

1800
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 4: So ultimately they're not buying anything.

1801
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:55,959
Speaker 5: They're just buying themselves an opportunity to try to guarantee

1802
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 5: themselves a spot in the tournament and then we.

1803
01:26:58,520 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 4: See what happens.

1804
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 2: There's a great point that in baseball you can only

1805
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 2: buy relevancy. That's it. You can't buy a title. And

1806
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 2: you know it's every team has the same philosophy, which is, hey,

1807
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 2: let me build something so I can sustain it, and

1808
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:23,719
Speaker 2: then I have a run. I have five to seven

1809
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 2: years where I'm relevant and I'm in the playoffs and

1810
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 2: I'm chasing the title, and I hope I get lucky

1811
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 2: and get breakthrough. I mean that's basically it.

1812
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, especially for smaller market teams that don't there aren't

1813
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 5: as highly capitalized as teams like the Dodgers or the

1814
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 5: Mets or even the Phillies. You know, smaller market teams

1815
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 5: that have to build through the draft and through cultivating talent.

1816
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 5: And Cleveland I think kind of has this figured out.

1817
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 5: Where they don't have a lot of money, they're not

1818
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:52,600
Speaker 5: highly capitalized, they find ways to cultivate pitching in the

1819
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 5: minor leagues, and then once those guys are getting ready

1820
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 5: to hit free agency, you trade them away. You got

1821
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 5: another kid, you know, those three years away behind them,

1822
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 5: and you just build it up that way. So there's

1823
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 5: different ways to be able to win. Everybody's not built

1824
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 5: the same.

1825
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 2: I hate I'd be honest with you. I hate that

1826
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 2: because it's not fair to the fan base. One of

1827
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 2: the things that I railed on earlier this year, I'm

1828
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:20,640
Speaker 2: curiously what you think is like it God blessed the

1829
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 2: Dodgers and the way they've manipulated the system, and you know,

1830
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:27,640
Speaker 2: and I'm not giving sour grapes because i love the

1831
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 2: collection of players, but it's not right to have an

1832
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 2: existence where it's the Dodgers and the Guardians or the

1833
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 2: Dodgers and the Pirates. Where you go the marlins like

1834
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 2: where they can't they can't even get to the threshold

1835
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 2: of the floor of a salary cap. That's there has

1836
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 2: to be a harder cap in there. You gotta be

1837
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 2: able to do that otherwise, Like the NFL has its model. Now,

1838
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:03,719
Speaker 2: I get labor, and labor is everything, but the NFL

1839
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 2: has the model for success and baseball, you got too

1840
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 2: many teams that have no chance, and what do you

1841
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 2: tell that fan base, They're never going to be all

1842
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:17,600
Speaker 2: in if you have no chance to win it.

1843
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that to a certain degree.

1844
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 5: That the issue with that goes back to my point

1845
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 5: when I made a second ago about a team like

1846
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 5: Arizona making it to the World Series. Baseball has its

1847
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 5: system set up where because of the way the playoffs

1848
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 5: are set, because of the way the game is played,

1849
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 5: you don't necessarily have to have a lot of talent

1850
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 5: or spend a lot of money. It's really just based

1851
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 5: on how your front office operates, how they draft, how

1852
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 5: they cultivate talent, whether or not you can compete. If

1853
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 5: this was the Premier League soccer and the same team

1854
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 5: won the Premier League eight times in like twelve years,

1855
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:53,719
Speaker 5: I think it'd be a little bit different. But because

1856
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 5: baseball has the evidence to say, look, we haven't had

1857
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,640
Speaker 5: a repeat champion since the Yankees did it in ninety eight,

1858
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 5: ninety nine, two thousand, it's it doesn't seem like on

1859
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 5: the surface that it's set up for parody because of

1860
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 5: the salary structure. But I just think based on the

1861
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 5: way that the game is played, it's set up for parody.

1862
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 5: And that's why baseball, even though there are a lot

1863
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:14,599
Speaker 5: of owners who are crying that they need a salary cap,

1864
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 5: just the way that it's played out, I think the

1865
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 5: results on the field you kind of beg to differ

1866
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 5: because it's not necessarily a necessity for every team to compete.

1867
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 4: Just teams have to find a way to compete differently.

1868
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think it's I hear you on that.

1869
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 2: It's way easier if you have this modicum of a payroll, Like,

1870
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,560
Speaker 2: it's just way easier to be in the next like

1871
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:43,680
Speaker 2: the Pirates. For every Arizona you got, you know, a

1872
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 2: dozen and a half of the teams that have no chance.

1873
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, and part of that is self inflicted

1874
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 5: because look, all right, what do the Pirates have or

1875
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 5: what I'll put it this way, what do the Tampa

1876
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 5: Bay Rays have that the Pirates don't. Neither team is

1877
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 5: highly capitalized. Pittsburgh's in a bigger market. By the way,

1878
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,639
Speaker 5: both teams are making money from a revenue share. They're

1879
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 5: not losing money. Tampa Bay has an infrastructure, something that

1880
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:08,800
Speaker 5: Andrew Freeman, who's now the president of the Dodgers, helped

1881
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 5: build in Tampa Bay.

1882
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:12,639
Speaker 4: Here's how we draft. Here's our analytic department.

1883
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 5: Instead of spending on the major league roster, We're gonna

1884
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 5: spend a ton of money in our analytics department to

1885
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 5: find the right guys, cultivate the right guys, put them

1886
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 5: in our system, and now we have sustain success even

1887
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 5: though we're not capitalized.

1888
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 4: Why can't well, why can't Cincinnati.

1889
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 2: I'll give you some pushback on the analytics versus the scouting,

1890
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 2: because what they've done is they do how to find

1891
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 2: players like they're scouting is incredible. They're like, that's one

1892
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 2: of the things that could because the draft is such

1893
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 2: an inexact science. It's way harder to draft baseball than

1894
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 2: it is to draft any other you know, football or

1895
01:31:56,240 --> 01:32:00,479
Speaker 2: or even hockey. Absolutely, it's just hard because the amount

1896
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 2: of high school kids, the projections that you're having, you know, arms,

1897
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 2: how do you project pictures these days when you know

1898
01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 2: that arm troubles right right around the corner for almost

1899
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 2: all of them, especially those kids that are jacking it up,

1900
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 2: you know at one hundred. So I think, listen, they've

1901
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 2: scatted well, and I think that's that's the reason for it.

1902
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 2: Although you know, like you look at it now, they

1903
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 2: don't look as dangerous as potent. No.

1904
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:31,759
Speaker 5: I mean it goes through cycles for for a franchise,

1905
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 5: and it seemed like that you'll have, you know, four

1906
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 5: really good years and then you might have a down

1907
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 5: year or two before you can kind of build it

1908
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:39,720
Speaker 5: back up again if you draft well, right, if you

1909
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:42,759
Speaker 5: draft well enough, you hit on you know, on those guys,

1910
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:45,639
Speaker 5: which you know, to Tampa Bay's credit, they've been able

1911
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 5: to do that for the most part for the last

1912
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 5: you know, decade or so, So it can be done.

1913
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 5: It's just not it's not easy. I'm not saying it's easy,

1914
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:53,719
Speaker 5: but it's possible.

1915
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't think it's good for the game. Like,

1916
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 2: like we talk about glass now, right, who is a

1917
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay product? You go, if you're a fan of

1918
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 2: the Rays, like we take it away from the fan level, right,

1919
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:12,719
Speaker 2: if you're a fan of the Rays, like you mentioned

1920
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,719
Speaker 2: the Cleveland way, right, you got all these great arms

1921
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 2: and then they go, I mean if you're a kid

1922
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,960
Speaker 2: in Cleveland, what like you can't even buy.

1923
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 4: Jersey, yeah, because the guy's gone in five years if

1924
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:27,879
Speaker 4: you're lucky, right.

1925
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 3: But you can't even get next to it. And that's

1926
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 3: a great baseball town.

1927
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 2: Many Cleveland, Na, God, it's a great it's great sports town.

1928
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:39,719
Speaker 2: It's a great baseball town. Man, they not the baseball

1929
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:43,640
Speaker 2: they love it. I remember covering, you know, playoffs in

1930
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 2: the late nineties. You know, I mean, look at the

1931
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:53,600
Speaker 2: roster they had back then, the lineup blue, who was it,

1932
01:33:53,720 --> 01:34:01,719
Speaker 2: Tony Manny Ramirez, Kenny Lofton, Albert Bell, you had.

1933
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:06,799
Speaker 3: Who is the uh who is the Catcher's great catcher?

1934
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 4: Forgetting off the top of my head so we can hear.

1935
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:13,519
Speaker 2: To brothers, Yeah, oh my god, I have to go

1936
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 2: look it up. It's I mean, they had at an

1937
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 2: All Star team.

1938
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, really did. Yeah, and that I mean, and that

1939
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 5: wasn't that long ago. We're talking twenty five years ago,

1940
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:27,720
Speaker 5: thirty years ago with al Omar, Albert, Burt Olimar that's right,

1941
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 5: that's right, and hes Sandy Alamar.

1942
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean look at that team. You know,

1943
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 2: they were able to put that team on the field.

1944
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:37,959
Speaker 2: He couldn't do it today because its salaries.

1945
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, those guys are are making too much money going

1946
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 5: off to greener pastors now.

1947
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:43,559
Speaker 3: Anyway.

1948
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if there's a perfect fix.

1949
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 5: There are some proponents of a salary cap, others not

1950
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:50,720
Speaker 5: because then you're talking about free markets and you know,

1951
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:53,680
Speaker 5: someone like Otani can't make seven hundred million dollars if

1952
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 5: there's a salary cap, and you're gonna cry, well, boohoo

1953
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:57,880
Speaker 5: for you not be able to make as much money

1954
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,560
Speaker 5: as you want. But I think that's one feather in

1955
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:02,640
Speaker 5: the capital the players Association is we're not going to

1956
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 5: do something to try to benefit the owners who, as

1957
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 5: Tony Clark has said, these guys are making handle, we're

1958
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 5: fist and are crying poor when we know that's not

1959
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 5: necessarily the case. Now, I know the Dodgers and the

1960
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 5: Yankees make more money than say, you know, the Cardinals

1961
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 5: or the you know, the Guardians, but it's not these

1962
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 5: teams are poor. You know, you invest in what you

1963
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:26,440
Speaker 5: choose to invest in. And if you're not highly capitalized

1964
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:28,799
Speaker 5: at this point in time and can't afford to reinvest

1965
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 5: into the team, I'm sorry, maybe you shouldn't be a

1966
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:34,720
Speaker 5: major league owner. This is in nineteen sixty anymore. These

1967
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 5: are not family run operations. These are giant corporations.

1968
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, I agree, I agree with that.

1969
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's do it take quick too, and we'll

1970
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:47,599
Speaker 2: come back and I want to go through the draft

1971
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:50,599
Speaker 2: to order of teams and kind of look at needs

1972
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 2: less players, but more needs and the state of that team.

1973
01:35:56,120 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 2: All right, all right, right, I love it as Thanks

1974
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:02,559
Speaker 2: for dealing with me. We're the fellas. Hang it out

1975
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:04,719
Speaker 2: right here Fox Sports Radio.

1976
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1977
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 6: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

1978
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 6: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

1979
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:17,240
Speaker 6: listen live.

1980
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 2: Fellas, figure cuz, hang it out, all right, let's go

1981
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 2: a little football bat eat my football fix.

1982
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 4: All right, absolutely.

1983
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 7: Well.

1984
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:36,720
Speaker 2: There's also college football winning totals that came out to.

1985
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 5: Oh excellent, I didn't see those. All right, that'd be

1986
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 5: fun too, Why not, dude, By the way, just all

1987
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 5: of it. I love the way college football is.

1988
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it. Yeah, I agree. It added a

1989
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 4: level of excitement, you know.

1990
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 5: And we talked about this over the last few years,

1991
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:56,879
Speaker 5: even back when Lincoln was here, about you know, expanding

1992
01:36:56,920 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 5: from the BCS, expanding from the fourteen playoff off and

1993
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 5: having more teams be in it. And I was one

1994
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:05,240
Speaker 5: of those skeptics who said, you know, you're gonna diminish

1995
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 5: the regular season, and what it actually ended up doing

1996
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 5: was enhancing the regular season because there are games that

1997
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 5: you wouldn't have cared about back in the day in

1998
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 5: the final week end of the year that actually mattered.

1999
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 4: And so it actually what it did was maybe it

2000
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 4: made some.

2001
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 5: Rivalry games at the end of the year, maybe a

2002
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 5: little bit less important, but it made other games more important.

2003
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:25,559
Speaker 5: And I think that was the beauty of the playoff,

2004
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 5: and the playoff itself was excellent.

2005
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 4: So I'm all for it. You have a fan now,

2006
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 4: whether or not we need to expand for four more

2007
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 4: teams or something, it's a little rich for me.

2008
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 5: We we had just for the first year of the

2009
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 5: twelve team playoff was good. Why do we need to

2010
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 5: go even further into it. They're gonna do it, I

2011
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:40,840
Speaker 5: know they will.

2012
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:42,679
Speaker 4: It's all about money. Money drives everything.

2013
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, and listen, I'm not against it.

2014
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 6: You know.

2015
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 3: I'm a more guy. I'm an excess guy.

2016
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:51,720
Speaker 2: Yes, but uh, obviously you just need to fix the

2017
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 2: seeding so you get better matchups, right, So you'll fix that.

2018
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 2: That's an easy fix and you'll probably you know, I mean,

2019
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 2: I do believe in a cat like the cap number

2020
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:04,559
Speaker 2: of teams, you know, it's like like.

2021
01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 4: Twenty four teams like the FCS does.

2022
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know you don't need all that, you know,

2023
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:11,880
Speaker 2: but sink like if you want to do you know,

2024
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 2: you want to do sixteen, Like go ahead, you know

2025
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 2: it's good.

2026
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would have kept it that maybe eight ten,

2027
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:20,639
Speaker 5: we're at twelve, we're probably going to go to fourteen.

2028
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 4: I think fourteen is probably a healthy stop. You know,

2029
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 4: that's probably a good car. I don't like buys, you're

2030
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 4: not a fan of buys.

2031
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 5: I like the fact that buy because it gives you

2032
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:32,799
Speaker 5: something to play for towards the end of the season,

2033
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:34,400
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, if you're a team that

2034
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 5: has one or two losses. I would just use Michigan

2035
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:39,600
Speaker 5: Ohio State as an example. It's the last game of

2036
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 5: the season, and one of those teams is, you know,

2037
01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:43,320
Speaker 5: eleven and one in the other let's say, is like

2038
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 5: six and five or whatever you're playing.

2039
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:47,800
Speaker 4: It gives you something outside.

2040
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:50,800
Speaker 3: Of the Vikings that was the Vikings Lions.

2041
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:52,000
Speaker 4: Correct thousand percent.

2042
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:54,559
Speaker 5: So it's a it's still a game still has meaning,

2043
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 5: even though in the grand scheme, you know, you're a

2044
01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 5: playoff team doesn't have meetings, Like well, if I can

2045
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 5: have it, I can have a week off to get healthy.

2046
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 5: So that's why I think the buye Actually it gives

2047
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:05,600
Speaker 5: great teams something to strive for.

2048
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 2: You know what the problem is in college football, it's

2049
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 2: there is it natural break anyway? Yeah, Like you're already

2050
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 2: getting a buy so there's already a break coming. Yeah,

2051
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 2: So that's kind of what I almost think it does

2052
01:39:19,160 --> 01:39:19,960
Speaker 2: a disservice to you.

2053
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 5: It can be, but it can also look I mean

2054
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 5: that that extra week can mean a lot. The extra

2055
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 5: week of not having to, you know, bang heads with

2056
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:31,680
Speaker 5: another opponent, to being able to scout ahead, prepare for

2057
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 5: two separate opponents and see what happens. Because what it

2058
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:37,240
Speaker 5: does it lessens the chance of you getting injured in

2059
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 5: another game. You know, if you're Ohio State and you

2060
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:41,640
Speaker 5: have a week off and you know, I don't know,

2061
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna make up. TCU and Oregon have to

2062
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 5: play each other the week before, there's a chance that

2063
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:48,639
Speaker 5: one of their important players gets hurt, and if they advance,

2064
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 5: that puts you at an advantage. You know, So that

2065
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:53,920
Speaker 5: extra week, even though everybody had two weeks off beforehand,

2066
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 5: will end up helping you in the long run.

2067
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:58,599
Speaker 2: I mean that you're right. I mean every less, every game,

2068
01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:03,639
Speaker 2: every less game that you play matters, you know, from

2069
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 2: a chance.

2070
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:07,720
Speaker 3: To lose two injury, right, But I don't know.

2071
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:14,559
Speaker 2: I mean buys are hard in college also because there's

2072
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 2: not as much equity like the NFL. It's it's there

2073
01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 2: for you, right, Like you play your division, you play

2074
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 2: your conference. Because there's so many teams of college football.

2075
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:34,000
Speaker 2: It's hard even though you're playing conference. Like the scheduled

2076
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:35,719
Speaker 2: disparity is so different.

2077
01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, because you'll have teams that will play, you know,

2078
01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:42,000
Speaker 5: six games, have a buy play out the rest of

2079
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 5: the way, or they'll play two games, have one by

2080
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:45,639
Speaker 5: and then they don't have a break.

2081
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 3: For two months, right, and even the level of competition

2082
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:48,639
Speaker 3: right sure.

2083
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you get lucky and you're not playing,

2084
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 2: you know, you got you're in a big ten and

2085
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 2: all you got to do is play Michigan and Penn State,

2086
01:40:56,520 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 2: you miss Ohio State, you know, you rack up and

2087
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:01,559
Speaker 2: you get lucky.

2088
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 3: Like, it's too much of that just because of the

2089
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 3: sure number of teams.

2090
01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:09,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, which is the one of the drawbacks of expansion.

2091
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:11,479
Speaker 5: One thing I always liked about the old like PAC

2092
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 5: ten back in the day, even when we had all

2093
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:15,559
Speaker 5: these conference championship games, is that they just played around Robin.

2094
01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 5: I liked one thing I did like to harken back

2095
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:20,719
Speaker 5: to the old days is when everybody just played everybody.

2096
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 5: And honestly, now that we're in the playoff, it makes

2097
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:27,320
Speaker 5: you wonder how important conference championship games are anyway.

2098
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:28,760
Speaker 3: They really don't matter.

2099
01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, at some point don't at some

2100
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 2: point doesn't the Big ten and SEC swallow everybody in

2101
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:38,920
Speaker 2: these two conferences?

2102
01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 5: Probably, and maybe they get rebranded or something. But yeah,

2103
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 5: that's that's what it's gonna end up.

2104
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:46,680
Speaker 2: That's what's got remember to Gargatto plan for back in

2105
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:50,360
Speaker 2: the day, all I do for two conferences and then

2106
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:51,520
Speaker 2: you have relegization.

2107
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 4: Thousand percent, it's picked up steam. There's there's a lot

2108
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 4: of fans of that. I believe.

2109
01:41:57,120 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 5: Ross Dellinger at Yahoo did a giant ride up about

2110
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 5: this last I don't know if he gave you credit

2111
01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:03,960
Speaker 5: for it, which you should have, but he did do

2112
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 5: a giant write up about the idea of relegation and

2113
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 5: whether or not, you know, going up and down and

2114
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 5: basically just having two NFC and an AFC in the

2115
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 5: college football realm.

2116
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it makes too much sense.

2117
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:20,639
Speaker 2: A bastard was listening to us man years ago.

2118
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:22,519
Speaker 3: Son of a gun.

2119
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:25,360
Speaker 4: My god, sorry, I like ros Ross is a good job.

2120
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I love the personal Yeah, but it was.

2121
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 4: But it's a phenomenal idea.

2122
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:31,680
Speaker 2: On him.

2123
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:35,040
Speaker 5: All right, I'm glad you brought that up because you

2124
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 5: covered you know, you were a columnist, You were a

2125
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:39,720
Speaker 5: writer for a long period of time. Have you ever

2126
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 5: had a beef with another writer or there was an

2127
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:46,840
Speaker 5: issue with one person reported something, one person reported something else,

2128
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 5: and it got to a point where you almost came

2129
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 5: to blows over it.

2130
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:51,720
Speaker 4: That whole story still is mind boggling to me.

2131
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:56,519
Speaker 2: So I'll be honest with you at not so much me.

2132
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 2: But it was prevalent really in my day, especially in

2133
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 2: New York.

2134
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 3: Ah.

2135
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 2: Oh the feuds, blood feuds. Wow, oh yeah, oh yeah,

2136
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 2: blood feuds. Listen when you throw like, let's take the

2137
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 2: Yankees beat, right, the Yankees beat, you had god fifteen

2138
01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:28,360
Speaker 2: newspapers back in the day covering them. I mean traveling

2139
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:31,640
Speaker 2: from city to city, right, right, So you had you know,

2140
01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 2: anywhere from a dozen to fifteen beat writers, you know,

2141
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:40,320
Speaker 2: all looking for scoops. We're all trying to differentiate themselves

2142
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:45,840
Speaker 2: and it's competitive. Sure, I get that, right, it's highly competitive,

2143
01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:49,560
Speaker 2: and so there were a lot of beasts, you know,

2144
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:54,639
Speaker 2: you know that just so happens that they're not exactly

2145
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 2: a lot of tough guys in that realm not in

2146
01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:02,640
Speaker 2: the no. But know, like here my beef with with

2147
01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:07,800
Speaker 2: rap Sheet is you can't be a rat, like, you

2148
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 2: can't go rat sheet all me. Like, come on, dude,

2149
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:16,600
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, man, you can't call NFL security.

2150
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:20,760
Speaker 4: Yeah that's a little much. Now, granted rap is not

2151
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:22,360
Speaker 4: is not the biggest guy in the world.

2152
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:27,639
Speaker 2: I don't matter. I mean, I'm sorry you. First of all,

2153
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:30,760
Speaker 2: is Shortan Schultz really going to what's he going to

2154
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 2: do to you?

2155
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 4: He had home field advantage in Starbucks.

2156
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:38,719
Speaker 2: So you know, right, and even more reason I would

2157
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:41,360
Speaker 2: be like, yo, George, do me as solid? All right,

2158
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:45,320
Speaker 2: I'm not even putting my hands up hit me please?

2159
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 3: Yes, all right? I got Americano's for life.

2160
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 2: Baby.

2161
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 3: You know, I'm freaking Cramer. I'm getting Jackie Chiles to

2162
01:44:55,960 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 3: represent me, are you nuts? Yeah? And it's undignified.

2163
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:05,320
Speaker 2: To rat.

2164
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:11,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's not the best look security.

2165
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's also not the best look for

2166
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 5: Jordan Schultz to come up to him, and I don't know.

2167
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:19,439
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say threaten him. I don't know exactly what

2168
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:21,479
Speaker 5: the interaction was. You know, it's from a quote unp

2169
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:24,479
Speaker 5: for the exact quotes that were thrown out there. But

2170
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:26,160
Speaker 5: we're gonna have a problem.

2171
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:27,559
Speaker 4: We're gonna fight that whole thing.

2172
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:29,600
Speaker 5: There's probably a better way to handle it from his

2173
01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:31,200
Speaker 5: standpoint too, based on the reporting.

2174
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:33,559
Speaker 4: Again, I wasn't there, so I don't know exactly what happened.

2175
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:34,920
Speaker 4: I'm just going off of what was reported.

2176
01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:37,800
Speaker 2: I forty just said, you know, we got to talk

2177
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:40,920
Speaker 2: like whatever it was like, I mean, could he have

2178
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:41,839
Speaker 2: been threatening?

2179
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:43,240
Speaker 4: Yeah? All right?

2180
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 2: Is it?

2181
01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 5: Hey man, hey, can we sit down? We need to

2182
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 5: talk or it's like, hey man, hey, we need to talk.

2183
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:49,920
Speaker 5: Like there's a difference there, you know.

2184
01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, you're right. But I'll be honest

2185
01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:57,680
Speaker 2: with you. I'm team Schultz all the way. Yeah, I'm

2186
01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:02,800
Speaker 2: team Jordan all the way. You know, like if you're

2187
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,800
Speaker 2: if you're if you're a rap sheet man, yo, dude,

2188
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:06,840
Speaker 2: you gotta have some pride.

2189
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 4: You can't call security no to me, it's prideless.

2190
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:14,240
Speaker 2: Take a beaten the words that taking beaten and you

2191
01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:18,599
Speaker 2: collect the chet exactly. I mean, what's radio to say.

2192
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:21,559
Speaker 2: Everybody's got to take a beating every once in a while,

2193
01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:23,600
Speaker 2: that's right, Like, go for it.

2194
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:25,639
Speaker 4: You just can't rat.

2195
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 3: I'm sorry if the guys has a gun, all right,

2196
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 3: But you.

2197
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:36,719
Speaker 5: Know, especially since I mean he didn't actually lay hands

2198
01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 5: on you or anything, it doesn't seem like he threatened you, like, hey,

2199
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:40,559
Speaker 5: you better watch yourself.

2200
01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:41,960
Speaker 7: You know.

2201
01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:44,240
Speaker 4: It wasn't like one of those from what I understand, No,

2202
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:45,600
Speaker 4: none of that.

2203
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:49,000
Speaker 5: Really necessitated that you need to call NFL security because

2204
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:51,720
Speaker 5: a reporter came up and talked to you in a

2205
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:52,719
Speaker 5: hostile nature.

2206
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:54,479
Speaker 4: Does seem a little over the time.

2207
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:56,919
Speaker 3: I only figure about with the culture.

2208
01:46:57,160 --> 01:47:02,360
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm not I'm not for you know, anarchy or bullying,

2209
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:03,479
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it.

2210
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:05,200
Speaker 7: You know, but.

2211
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:08,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, maybe I'm too old school,

2212
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 2: but to me, you know, it's so unbecoming to to

2213
01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 2: to rat to call for security, like handle it, you're

2214
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 2: a man, handle it.

2215
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:23,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seemed over the top and unnecessary, I'll say that.

2216
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:29,360
Speaker 3: And back in the day, you know you're gonna if

2217
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:30,920
Speaker 3: you're gonna throw hands, you throw heads.

2218
01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:33,479
Speaker 4: You know, it would not surprise me, Anthony.

2219
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:36,719
Speaker 5: And again you talk about there being some beef sometimes

2220
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 5: between riders back in the day.

2221
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:40,600
Speaker 4: If guys probably did get into fights, even if it

2222
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:43,560
Speaker 4: wasn't work related, if it was something else, guy, I

2223
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 4: can tell you chapter.

2224
01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 2: I can tell you stories of fights, like real fist fights,

2225
01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 2: and players too.

2226
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 4: I can imagine probably players with riders or whatever.

2227
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:55,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and then no one ever heard of Yes,

2228
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:59,680
Speaker 2: I mean I can tell you first hand, you know.

2229
01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:03,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you know we all had this and it

2230
01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:09,400
Speaker 2: becomes contentious sometimes and it's and it's okay, all.

2231
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:11,880
Speaker 3: Right, as almost the a's almost a fair fight.

2232
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 5: I had no problem, yeah, and it doesn't escalate beyond

2233
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:17,040
Speaker 5: that and get outside and other stuff.

2234
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 4: If it's two guys had.

2235
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:22,680
Speaker 3: I know, I can't get that out. I have the

2236
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:25,560
Speaker 3: full disclosure. I can't get that out of me.

2237
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:28,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't bread into you.

2238
01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:28,840
Speaker 7: You know.

2239
01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was like, you know, I'll never forget the

2240
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:35,080
Speaker 2: first time I got punched the face.

2241
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:35,680
Speaker 3: I had to be.

2242
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:41,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, six seven years old, and I tell

2243
01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 2: my mother and I go, you had a kid hit

2244
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:46,200
Speaker 2: me and to punch me in the face. She goes,

2245
01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:50,120
Speaker 2: would you do? And I literally did nothing. Right, like

2246
01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:54,240
Speaker 2: like it was the first time I got whacked and

2247
01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:59,120
Speaker 2: she goes nice, Mark, she goes, well, you gotta hit

2248
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:02,599
Speaker 2: him back, like you gotta go hit you gotta swing,

2249
01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:04,720
Speaker 2: and that was it.

2250
01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 3: And then you know the next time then.

2251
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 2: There was a you know what I mean, like that's

2252
01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 2: kind of and there were society's changed. Yeah, there were

2253
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:22,720
Speaker 2: there were like uh, cope, cop guy fights in high

2254
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 2: school like they were home, they were big there you

2255
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:27,280
Speaker 2: knuckled well.

2256
01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:29,680
Speaker 5: The whole like meet me after school at three. That

2257
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:32,000
Speaker 5: was like that what actually happened. It was not stuff

2258
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:32,439
Speaker 5: from movies.

2259
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:34,320
Speaker 4: That was dude, the three o'clock.

2260
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 2: It was, man, hey, I'll see it three. And he

2261
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:43,040
Speaker 2: used to drive you nuts because you know, you have

2262
01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:44,400
Speaker 2: to think about it till three.

2263
01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 5: O'clock exactly, especially if you're the little guy in the

2264
01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 5: situation and you passed them in the hallway, it's like, hey, right,

2265
01:49:50,439 --> 01:49:50,920
Speaker 5: like two.

2266
01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:51,960
Speaker 4: More hours, brothers.

2267
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:54,800
Speaker 2: You get a big dude, right, a monster I remember

2268
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 2: having to fight this monster kid going oh my god,

2269
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 2: all right, like you're waiting, but you're waiting till three

2270
01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 2: o'clock and you know it's going to happen, so you

2271
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:06,080
Speaker 2: got to prepare for it.

2272
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:08,120
Speaker 4: But whatever.

2273
01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:10,200
Speaker 3: You know, Now, here's the thing.

2274
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:14,639
Speaker 2: You know, we're joking around at all, and obviously violence

2275
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:19,600
Speaker 2: and weapons and all this horrible things, you know, And

2276
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:21,880
Speaker 2: I we have a tendency and I know I do

2277
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:24,439
Speaker 2: when I talk about stuff like that to.

2278
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 3: Sanitize it, right.

2279
01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:30,800
Speaker 4: Right, being lighthearted about this whole thing, right.

2280
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:33,560
Speaker 2: And you know it's just not the way you know

2281
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 2: you should. You know, things change and things get out

2282
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:38,519
Speaker 2: of hand, and you know that's the problem. If listen,

2283
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 2: if it was all just about fits fighting and no

2284
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:44,439
Speaker 2: guns or knives, it would be a world be better place.

2285
01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:47,640
Speaker 2: Because how many times did you fight a kid and

2286
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:49,040
Speaker 2: you were best friends with him later?

2287
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:51,400
Speaker 4: A trillion times more than you can count back in

2288
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:51,640
Speaker 4: the day.

2289
01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:56,040
Speaker 2: Right, This is what it is. It's human nature, right,

2290
01:50:56,640 --> 01:50:59,760
Speaker 2: the problem at a certain age and whatever your butt

2291
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:02,360
Speaker 2: and then you're hug and then your friends.

2292
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:03,479
Speaker 4: Yea happens.

2293
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 5: But the issue now is two guys have a beef,

2294
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:08,000
Speaker 5: They get into a fight, the guy loses a fight.

2295
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:10,360
Speaker 5: The guy calls his older brother, he gets into a fight.

2296
01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:12,439
Speaker 5: He calls his cousin, who gets a gun involved, and

2297
01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 5: then it's a whole thing.

2298
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:17,360
Speaker 2: It just wasn't like that back in the day exactly exactly,

2299
01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:19,200
Speaker 2: and that's the shame of it. Man. We were talking

2300
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:22,760
Speaker 2: about this this thing with you know too, who had

2301
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:26,160
Speaker 2: a beat writers, and it's funny, like guys are like

2302
01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:27,639
Speaker 2: Barclay and Shack.

2303
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:30,640
Speaker 5: We're dying exactly because honestly, we can laugh about it

2304
01:51:30,760 --> 01:51:33,439
Speaker 5: because we know nonither of those guys are gonna do anything,

2305
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:36,519
Speaker 5: especially in a setting like that in today's day and

2306
01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:41,679
Speaker 5: age where everybody has phones, security cameras, social media. None

2307
01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:44,920
Speaker 5: of those guys, Schultz or Ian were ever gonna do anything.

2308
01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:48,200
Speaker 4: They're not going to jeopardize their careers over something that stupid.

2309
01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:53,040
Speaker 2: Right, right, you know anyway, it's funny.

2310
01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:53,880
Speaker 4: It's funny though.

2311
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:55,960
Speaker 2: The only lesson again, the only thing I'm going to

2312
01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 2: dial the hill is don't call security.

2313
01:51:59,240 --> 01:52:01,479
Speaker 3: Don't rat so you can't be rat sheet.

2314
01:52:02,439 --> 01:52:04,960
Speaker 4: Rat He's rat sheet now for you, not rap sheet anymore.

2315
01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:11,520
Speaker 2: Can't do it, man, No good, no good, Team Shultzky

2316
01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 2: Jordan give you that goo goll be it Starbucks Later on.

2317
01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:20,160
Speaker 3: That dude, God bless you.

2318
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 2: Your father started Starbucks and you go, I want to

2319
01:52:24,439 --> 01:52:25,640
Speaker 2: beat the NFL insider.

2320
01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:27,920
Speaker 4: I respect the hell out of him for that too, right,

2321
01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:29,200
Speaker 4: and started from the bottom.

2322
01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:33,599
Speaker 2: With it too, like take his money, you know exactly.

2323
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:37,519
Speaker 2: He didn't get any kind of you know, Daddy opened

2324
01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:40,120
Speaker 2: up doors. Bless him work from the ground up. I

2325
01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:42,360
Speaker 2: respect the hell out of him for that. Yeah, me too.

2326
01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 2: That's good. All right, we'll come back. We gotta go

2327
01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:48,639
Speaker 2: through the teams. All right, we got we Now we're

2328
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:52,040
Speaker 2: starting to dwindle. Man, we got freint coming up right

2329
01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:54,360
Speaker 2: out of time, I mean we got we didn't do

2330
01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:56,000
Speaker 2: any Colleins basketball.

2331
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:59,240
Speaker 3: Oh man, fake, we may have to stay on another

2332
01:52:59,320 --> 01:52:59,840
Speaker 3: four hours.

2333
01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:01,240
Speaker 4: Why not, let's do it? Why not?

2334
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:05,440
Speaker 3: Where the fellas right here? Fox Sports Radio.

2335
01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:17,680
Speaker 2: Fellas from the tire rack dot Com studios. Figure it

2336
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:23,560
Speaker 2: Cuz that's funny. I knew we would go on a

2337
01:53:24,160 --> 01:53:28,280
Speaker 2: on a whole big on that subject. We would go

2338
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:29,360
Speaker 2: you and I would go off of that.

2339
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:31,960
Speaker 4: It's like old times, right, I know.

2340
01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:33,519
Speaker 3: Hey.

2341
01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:36,000
Speaker 2: By the way, you can stream the show and all

2342
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:38,280
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2345
01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:46,400
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2346
01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:49,320
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2347
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2348
01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:56,400
Speaker 2: Radio as one of your presets just like the presets

2349
01:53:56,520 --> 01:54:00,360
Speaker 2: on a radio dial. So be sure to pre sat

2350
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:04,639
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app and then.

2351
01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:07,920
Speaker 3: Boom pops up at the top of your screen.

2352
01:54:08,680 --> 01:54:13,639
Speaker 2: All right, very cool. All right, let's do this because

2353
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:17,960
Speaker 2: we're we got time issues. Let's go a little pre

2354
01:54:18,240 --> 01:54:25,120
Speaker 2: March madness. And here's my question to you. Can anybody

2355
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:28,760
Speaker 2: win it? Is there anybody else who can win this

2356
01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:31,519
Speaker 2: thing other than Duke and Auburn?

2357
01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 7: Oh?

2358
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:36,160
Speaker 4: Absolutely? Yeah.

2359
01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 5: Well the problem is that so Duke and Auburn both

2360
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 5: have such versatility and how they can play, which I

2361
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:44,160
Speaker 5: really think is key to winning in March.

2362
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:46,520
Speaker 4: So if you're you just need things to break her

2363
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:47,040
Speaker 4: the right way.

2364
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:49,320
Speaker 5: If you're a team, let's say, like in Alabama, can

2365
01:54:49,400 --> 01:54:51,600
Speaker 5: you play defense well enough when you need to to

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01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:53,480
Speaker 5: be able to win? Because they can score with anybody,

2367
01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:55,880
Speaker 5: The issue with them is can they get stops when

2368
01:54:55,880 --> 01:54:56,240
Speaker 5: they need to?

2369
01:54:56,880 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 3: Now?

2370
01:54:57,160 --> 01:54:59,520
Speaker 5: Can they ratchet it up enough to win a handful

2371
01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:01,560
Speaker 5: of games over a couple of weeks. I think they're

2372
01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 5: good enough to Saint John's good enough offensively when they

2373
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 5: need to be to score points down the stretch of

2374
01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:09,480
Speaker 5: the game, because we know they're going to play lockdown

2375
01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:11,640
Speaker 5: defense on a night in that out basis, can they

2376
01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:14,000
Speaker 5: just get enough? And I look at a team like

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01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:16,600
Speaker 5: n C State last year, who nobody saw coming. You know,

2378
01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:19,280
Speaker 5: they were able to ratchet up their defense, which was

2379
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:21,440
Speaker 5: a struggle for them the majority of the season last

2380
01:55:21,480 --> 01:55:24,400
Speaker 5: year when it mattered most in the ACC tournament and

2381
01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:26,880
Speaker 5: into the NCAA tournament and wrote that to a final

2382
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:27,440
Speaker 5: four berth.

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01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:29,600
Speaker 4: So I think they can do it. I even look

2384
01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 4: at a team like Kentucky.

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01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:33,200
Speaker 5: If everybody's healthy, which they haven't been for the better

2386
01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 5: part of a month and a half, Kentucky can beat

2387
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:37,360
Speaker 5: all Burned today, even not at full health.

2388
01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:40,800
Speaker 4: I really think that. So I think it's pretty wide open.

2389
01:55:41,080 --> 01:55:44,200
Speaker 5: I do think Auburn and Duke are the front runners easily,

2390
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:47,240
Speaker 5: but I do think from a macro standpoint, that's a

2391
01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:49,600
Speaker 5: pretty wide open tournament. I don't think that it's exclusive

2392
01:55:49,640 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 5: to those two teams. I think there's a handful of

2393
01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:53,120
Speaker 5: other teams that can stay claimed to be able to

2394
01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:54,320
Speaker 5: win the national championship.

2395
01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting, I'm starting to believe I originally thought

2396
01:56:00,240 --> 01:56:05,240
Speaker 2: it was wide open, and now I question it. Dude,

2397
01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:10,160
Speaker 2: the freaking Duke looks so overwhelming at times, they do.

2398
01:56:10,360 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 3: I get it. They're playing it in the conference. Isn't

2399
01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:12,560
Speaker 3: that good?

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01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2401
01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 4: They A SEC is not having a great year this year.

2402
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:18,800
Speaker 2: No, but you know what they do. They're like a

2403
01:56:19,040 --> 01:56:25,880
Speaker 2: tidal wave. They swallow you up and they just go

2404
01:56:26,080 --> 01:56:29,840
Speaker 2: for like eight, nine, ten straight points and it just

2405
01:56:30,040 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 2: changes games.

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01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:32,840
Speaker 7: It does.

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01:56:33,040 --> 01:56:35,720
Speaker 5: And Cooper flag is and I feel like he's not

2408
01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:39,280
Speaker 5: gotten as weird as it sounds, as much hype as

2409
01:56:39,320 --> 01:56:40,240
Speaker 5: he probably.

2410
01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:42,000
Speaker 4: Should, as good as town as he is.

2411
01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 3: You're right, And I don't know.

2412
01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:45,720
Speaker 5: Why that is, because he certainly had a lot of hype,

2413
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:48,720
Speaker 5: and he turned heads at the Team USA training camp

2414
01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:50,560
Speaker 5: before the Olympics, and people say that this kid is

2415
01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 5: really good lookout for him, had a great has had

2416
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:54,240
Speaker 5: a great freshman year at Duke.

2417
01:56:54,840 --> 01:56:56,560
Speaker 4: But he's just not He's not getting to kind of

2418
01:56:56,600 --> 01:56:58,560
Speaker 4: hype that Zion was getting. Let's put it that way.

2419
01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 5: Now, Granted, he's not that level of athlete where he's

2420
01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:05,360
Speaker 5: jumping over guys, but he's pretty freaking spectacular and probably

2421
01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:07,160
Speaker 5: the front running for Player of the Year, even over

2422
01:57:07,240 --> 01:57:11,120
Speaker 5: jan I Brum at this point. So it makes sense

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01:57:11,200 --> 01:57:13,680
Speaker 5: that Duke would be the head for me. I think

2424
01:57:13,720 --> 01:57:16,560
Speaker 5: they're the favorite. I think even more so than all Burn,

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01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:19,640
Speaker 5: even though All Bird's been battle tested in the SEC.

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01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 5: I think I will give the edge to Duke at

2427
01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:23,960
Speaker 5: this point, at this point in time, but I still

2428
01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:24,880
Speaker 5: think there's other teams.

2429
01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:27,200
Speaker 4: Again, if things break right for them and they're on

2430
01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:29,240
Speaker 4: their game, they can easily stick with them.

2431
01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:31,440
Speaker 5: I think Florida, and I think people are kind of

2432
01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:33,760
Speaker 5: jumping off of Florida because they at that loss to Georgia.

2433
01:57:34,040 --> 01:57:36,040
Speaker 5: But they're just as good and just as talented. I

2434
01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:37,720
Speaker 5: think they they can stay claimed to be able to

2435
01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:41,120
Speaker 5: beat Duke or Auburn in a one game situation in

2436
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:46,320
Speaker 5: the NCAA tournament. I can absolutely see that. That's interesting, man,

2437
01:57:47,160 --> 01:57:50,840
Speaker 5: it really is. It's it's funny, man, It's gonna be

2438
01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:57,120
Speaker 5: a really it's gonna be fun. I like Auburn a

2439
01:57:57,160 --> 01:57:58,920
Speaker 5: lot is full, like what you were talking about being

2440
01:57:59,120 --> 01:58:04,040
Speaker 5: battle tested. Those other teams, I mean, Florida I like,

2441
01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:08,400
Speaker 5: but I'm not in love with them. I think they're beatable.

2442
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:13,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're definitely beatable, but look, they have depth.

2443
01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:16,640
Speaker 5: When they are engaged defensively, they can absolutely lock you down.

2444
01:58:16,640 --> 01:58:18,440
Speaker 4: They know Tennessee to like forty four points. Not that

2445
01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:19,280
Speaker 4: Tennessee is a great.

2446
01:58:19,560 --> 01:58:22,880
Speaker 5: You know, offensive juggern Art, that's their issue. Yeah, but

2447
01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:26,760
Speaker 5: when Florida wants to lock in on defense, they absolutely can.

2448
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:29,040
Speaker 5: And we know they have no issues scoring the basketball.

2449
01:58:29,600 --> 01:58:31,680
Speaker 5: So and look, they're not coming out of nowhere. They're

2450
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:33,080
Speaker 5: the third team in the country, so it's not like

2451
01:58:33,160 --> 01:58:35,320
Speaker 5: this is it's a giant reach to say they can

2452
01:58:35,360 --> 01:58:38,600
Speaker 5: compete for a national championship. But for whatever reason, they

2453
01:58:38,640 --> 01:58:40,200
Speaker 5: seem they don't seem to be a team that's even

2454
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:42,200
Speaker 5: though they're highly ranked that gets talked about.

2455
01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:43,440
Speaker 3: A lot for that they don't.

2456
01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:47,680
Speaker 2: The other interesting like the Philly is an interesting game

2457
01:58:47,720 --> 01:58:49,080
Speaker 2: because Bama and Tennessee.

2458
01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:51,360
Speaker 3: I kind of like Tennessee today.

2459
01:58:52,600 --> 01:58:56,520
Speaker 5: Well it's contrasting styles. Tennessee, you know, they really can't

2460
01:58:56,520 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 5: score points, but they can stop anyone. In Alabama can't

2461
01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:01,720
Speaker 5: stop anybody, and they score over ninety points a game.

2462
01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:05,080
Speaker 5: But again, Alabama is one of those teams I think

2463
01:59:05,120 --> 01:59:07,600
Speaker 5: when they need to, they can play defense well enough,

2464
01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:09,680
Speaker 5: so I would give the edge to them over Tennessee.

2465
01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:11,520
Speaker 5: Even though I like Tennessee as a whole, I think

2466
01:59:11,560 --> 01:59:13,800
Speaker 5: Tennessee's downfall is gonna be they just can't score enough.

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01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:16,080
Speaker 3: Points when it met that's that's why they're gonna be

2468
01:59:16,120 --> 01:59:17,000
Speaker 3: an exit. Yeah.

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01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:21,600
Speaker 2: But today against that team, against that Baba team at home,

2470
01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:25,680
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's just one of those emotional, big,

2471
01:59:26,200 --> 01:59:29,040
Speaker 2: big wins I could see, wouldn't surprise me? All right,

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Speaker 2: I want to go through some of the NFL news

2493
02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:55,280
Speaker 2: because of these combines to big combine weekend, there'll be

2494
02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:58,840
Speaker 2: hours of some combine coverage, which I love.

2495
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:01,720
Speaker 5: Figgi No, It's one of the smartest things the NFL

2496
02:01:01,760 --> 02:01:03,920
Speaker 5: could have ever done because look, as much as we

2497
02:01:04,000 --> 02:01:05,800
Speaker 5: can say, like hey, it's more about interviews and not

2498
02:01:05,880 --> 02:01:09,000
Speaker 5: about forty our dashes, and people watch it. They eat

2499
02:01:09,040 --> 02:01:11,800
Speaker 5: this stuff alive. And for the NFL to move this

2500
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:14,240
Speaker 5: to primetime weekend programming is.

2501
02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:16,120
Speaker 4: One of the smartest things they could have ever done.

2502
02:01:16,160 --> 02:01:18,280
Speaker 4: That's why the NFL thrives. They get it.

2503
02:01:19,360 --> 02:01:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they understand their product better than anybody, absolutely right. Like,

2504
02:01:26,080 --> 02:01:29,320
Speaker 2: I still can't get over the main maneuver of how

2505
02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:34,000
Speaker 2: the NFL took over Christmas. You like the grits that

2506
02:01:34,120 --> 02:01:38,280
Speaker 2: stole Christmas? Man, Oh, it's a great it's the heist.

2507
02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:41,520
Speaker 4: It is Christmas heist, totally unapologetic about it.

2508
02:01:41,600 --> 02:01:43,280
Speaker 5: Remember, there used to be like a level of respect

2509
02:01:43,360 --> 02:01:47,360
Speaker 5: between the major franchises, Like I remember years ago, like

2510
02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:50,560
Speaker 5: the NFL would like not schedule a Monday night football

2511
02:01:50,640 --> 02:01:52,320
Speaker 5: game because the World Series was going on.

2512
02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:56,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, now they're like, screw you Baseball. This is the NFL.

2513
02:01:57,280 --> 02:01:59,960
Speaker 4: You know, this is now our turf. You find your space.

2514
02:02:00,200 --> 02:02:04,120
Speaker 4: We got ours. Christmas Day, that's ours. Find something else.

2515
02:02:05,680 --> 02:02:08,400
Speaker 2: Don't give it red THEVA go get you shy box.

2516
02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:13,320
Speaker 4: Exactly, not my problem. I love it.

2517
02:02:13,800 --> 02:02:17,360
Speaker 3: Oh that's cute. You think you got it at Christmas Day?

2518
02:02:17,920 --> 02:02:18,120
Speaker 4: Home?

2519
02:02:18,320 --> 02:02:18,680
Speaker 2: Please?

2520
02:02:19,160 --> 02:02:21,560
Speaker 4: I got Lebron James crying after a post game. Hey,

2521
02:02:21,960 --> 02:02:24,920
Speaker 4: the NBA show. Christmas Day belongs to the NBA. This

2522
02:02:25,000 --> 02:02:27,960
Speaker 4: is our day. Come on, NFL. It's like, nah, nah, Bron,

2523
02:02:28,120 --> 02:02:28,520
Speaker 4: We're good.

2524
02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:34,160
Speaker 5: You know, it's have fun with your you know your

2525
02:02:34,280 --> 02:02:37,240
Speaker 5: for rating, you know for ABC on Christmas Day, and

2526
02:02:37,320 --> 02:02:41,120
Speaker 5: we'll get our seventeen share on Netflix, you know which

2527
02:02:41,160 --> 02:02:42,760
Speaker 5: people are going out of their way to sign up

2528
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:43,960
Speaker 5: for just to watch the games.

2529
02:02:44,320 --> 02:02:47,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Hey, do we have our Christmas tam

2530
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:51,200
Speaker 2: Do we have our Christmas turkey? Do we have the

2531
02:02:51,320 --> 02:02:53,880
Speaker 2: gifts under the tree? And do we have Netflix so

2532
02:02:53,960 --> 02:02:54,960
Speaker 2: we can watch football?

2533
02:02:55,840 --> 02:02:58,640
Speaker 4: The most important gotta get that Netflix in the mix.

2534
02:02:58,880 --> 02:03:02,800
Speaker 4: It is is great, It is so great, and people

2535
02:03:02,880 --> 02:03:05,000
Speaker 4: like me, Yeah, I respect it.

2536
02:03:05,280 --> 02:03:07,040
Speaker 5: Look I complain about it, and I was like, why

2537
02:03:07,120 --> 02:03:09,320
Speaker 5: do I have to get literally every streaming service under

2538
02:03:09,360 --> 02:03:11,520
Speaker 5: the sun just to watch one game every couple of weeks.

2539
02:03:12,080 --> 02:03:14,880
Speaker 5: But we do it because the NFL knows we're gonna

2540
02:03:14,920 --> 02:03:18,360
Speaker 5: do it. We'll complain about it, but ultimately we're gonna

2541
02:03:18,400 --> 02:03:21,520
Speaker 5: get it. So it's the smartest business move that they

2542
02:03:21,560 --> 02:03:23,720
Speaker 5: could possibly make. I love it and hate it the

2543
02:03:23,800 --> 02:03:25,680
Speaker 5: same at the same time, if I'm to be honest.

2544
02:03:25,800 --> 02:03:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. I think I love and love it. Yeah,

2545
02:03:28,720 --> 02:03:31,640
Speaker 2: you know I do. I love all this and I

2546
02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:32,800
Speaker 2: love the fact that they just.

2547
02:03:32,960 --> 02:03:36,440
Speaker 4: Own like whatever they want, they own whatever the hell

2548
02:03:36,520 --> 02:03:36,800
Speaker 4: they want.

2549
02:03:36,920 --> 02:03:39,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I would do the same thing like

2550
02:03:39,800 --> 02:03:42,400
Speaker 3: I have for these ideas. You know that you and I.

2551
02:03:43,240 --> 02:03:46,200
Speaker 3: You're by witness I threw out there years ago.

2552
02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:50,000
Speaker 2: Oh, I have to double by the eighteen game schedule,

2553
02:03:51,080 --> 02:03:55,480
Speaker 2: making it the combine the draft, doing it multiple days.

2554
02:03:56,280 --> 02:03:58,880
Speaker 5: The only thing they haven't done, and they might it's

2555
02:03:58,920 --> 02:04:01,600
Speaker 5: playing every single night of the week, Yes, which I'm

2556
02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:02,680
Speaker 5: still not a big fan of.

2557
02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:05,240
Speaker 4: But look, they already played.

2558
02:04:05,280 --> 02:04:08,560
Speaker 5: They played Christmas Day, which was a Wednesday this past year. Yeah,

2559
02:04:08,960 --> 02:04:10,680
Speaker 5: when they had only played like two games in the

2560
02:04:10,760 --> 02:04:12,280
Speaker 5: history of the sport on a Wednesday in the past

2561
02:04:12,400 --> 02:04:14,640
Speaker 5: or something like that for like logistical purposes or whatever.

2562
02:04:15,720 --> 02:04:16,560
Speaker 4: When I put it past the.

2563
02:04:16,600 --> 02:04:18,040
Speaker 5: NFL at some point to say, you know what, We're

2564
02:04:18,080 --> 02:04:19,840
Speaker 5: just gonna roll out three games a day, every single

2565
02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:21,840
Speaker 5: day of the week at some point and see how

2566
02:04:21,880 --> 02:04:22,240
Speaker 5: it works.

2567
02:04:23,120 --> 02:04:26,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, yeah, let's go.

2568
02:04:28,360 --> 02:04:28,680
Speaker 7: I don't know.

2569
02:04:28,680 --> 02:04:30,400
Speaker 4: There's something special. I grew with FITZI on this.

2570
02:04:30,520 --> 02:04:33,880
Speaker 5: There's something special about a Sunday afternoon having multiple games

2571
02:04:33,880 --> 02:04:34,840
Speaker 5: that you can keep an eye on.

2572
02:04:34,880 --> 02:04:35,560
Speaker 4: And bounce around.

2573
02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:37,760
Speaker 5: And maybe it's just an old school novelty thing for me.

2574
02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:40,040
Speaker 5: I'm not sure, because there is something to be said

2575
02:04:40,040 --> 02:04:42,560
Speaker 5: from your case, Anthony, that you know, you can actually

2576
02:04:42,680 --> 02:04:45,160
Speaker 5: dial in more if there's only a couple of games

2577
02:04:45,200 --> 02:04:46,560
Speaker 5: going on at a time during the week.

2578
02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:51,440
Speaker 2: Well, you remember the NCAA tournament. They would all tip

2579
02:04:51,560 --> 02:04:53,440
Speaker 2: off like you'd had four games tip off at the

2580
02:04:53,440 --> 02:04:54,120
Speaker 2: same time.

2581
02:04:54,280 --> 02:04:56,280
Speaker 4: Right, or like within like two minutes of each other

2582
02:04:56,400 --> 02:04:56,720
Speaker 4: or something.

2583
02:04:56,800 --> 02:04:58,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I.

2584
02:04:58,480 --> 02:05:04,440
Speaker 2: Remember thinking, well, why, like why I I want to

2585
02:05:04,520 --> 02:05:07,960
Speaker 2: watch the games, so can't you stagger them for the

2586
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:11,520
Speaker 2: whole day so I could see the majority of the games?

2587
02:05:12,680 --> 02:05:14,600
Speaker 2: And it's the same thing with the NFL. You have

2588
02:05:14,680 --> 02:05:17,960
Speaker 2: a finite amount of games every week right with byes?

2589
02:05:19,600 --> 02:05:25,200
Speaker 2: Why stack them together when I want to watch them?

2590
02:05:25,480 --> 02:05:27,240
Speaker 2: I watch any NFL game.

2591
02:05:27,520 --> 02:05:29,560
Speaker 4: Do you believe that there's any and I know you don't,

2592
02:05:29,680 --> 02:05:31,360
Speaker 4: and to a certain degree I don't either.

2593
02:05:31,440 --> 02:05:34,480
Speaker 5: There's certain sports junkies who will eat this alive and

2594
02:05:34,560 --> 02:05:36,680
Speaker 5: watch every second of every game that they possibly can,

2595
02:05:37,160 --> 02:05:40,000
Speaker 5: but that there could be too much football, that having

2596
02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:43,240
Speaker 5: a doublehead or every single solitary night of the week

2597
02:05:43,400 --> 02:05:45,200
Speaker 5: is just too much, and something's gonna get lost in

2598
02:05:45,240 --> 02:05:47,320
Speaker 5: the muck eventually, because one thing you don't want to

2599
02:05:47,400 --> 02:05:49,680
Speaker 5: turn into was the NBA where there's a little bit

2600
02:05:49,680 --> 02:05:51,680
Speaker 5: of indifference, or even Major League Baseball to a degree,

2601
02:05:51,680 --> 02:05:53,200
Speaker 5: because there's games every single night.

2602
02:05:53,840 --> 02:05:54,600
Speaker 4: The novelty of.

2603
02:05:54,680 --> 02:05:56,800
Speaker 5: You guys talked about this last week too, the NBA

2604
02:05:56,920 --> 02:05:59,240
Speaker 5: on NBC and the big weekly game and all that stuff.

2605
02:05:59,560 --> 02:06:00,320
Speaker 3: I love that weekly.

2606
02:06:00,680 --> 02:06:02,840
Speaker 5: It loses its luster at that point in time if

2607
02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:04,920
Speaker 5: there's literally something that's served up on a night at

2608
02:06:05,000 --> 02:06:07,120
Speaker 5: night out basis, what is the Marquete night in the

2609
02:06:07,240 --> 02:06:07,920
Speaker 5: NBA anymore?

2610
02:06:08,200 --> 02:06:10,760
Speaker 4: Is it even the NBA on TNT? And if it is,

2611
02:06:11,080 --> 02:06:14,400
Speaker 4: it's because of Chuck and Shaq and the crew more

2612
02:06:14,480 --> 02:06:16,000
Speaker 4: so than the actual product itself.

2613
02:06:17,040 --> 02:06:21,320
Speaker 2: It's a great point. It truly is a great point. Ken,

2614
02:06:22,160 --> 02:06:23,880
Speaker 2: you know, would there be a saturation?

2615
02:06:24,800 --> 02:06:27,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. You you got Sunday, you

2616
02:06:27,520 --> 02:06:28,320
Speaker 3: got Monday.

2617
02:06:29,760 --> 02:06:34,520
Speaker 2: When we throw out mach Tuesday, there's people watch it

2618
02:06:34,600 --> 02:06:39,120
Speaker 2: like I watch our Yeah right, yeah, Tuesday, Wednesday match Thursday,

2619
02:06:39,320 --> 02:06:43,080
Speaker 2: NFL back Friday College like the thing. I love what

2620
02:06:43,280 --> 02:06:46,760
Speaker 2: Fox is doing. It's putting maybe ful games on Fridays.

2621
02:06:46,920 --> 02:06:49,600
Speaker 4: I love it. Yeah, I'm so happy that they've done that.

2622
02:06:51,320 --> 02:06:55,640
Speaker 3: That's a waste. That's a great night Friday night.

2623
02:06:55,880 --> 02:06:58,120
Speaker 5: Well, there was an anti trust issue before with the

2624
02:06:58,240 --> 02:07:00,880
Speaker 5: NFL not playing games on Fridays because of not only

2625
02:07:00,960 --> 02:07:02,920
Speaker 5: college but the effect on high school football that I

2626
02:07:03,000 --> 02:07:06,520
Speaker 5: still think is technically in effect. So the NFL even now,

2627
02:07:06,560 --> 02:07:08,360
Speaker 5: even when you get late into the season when college

2628
02:07:08,440 --> 02:07:11,240
Speaker 5: is wrapping up and the NFL adds Saturdays to their slate,

2629
02:07:11,720 --> 02:07:13,840
Speaker 5: they still don't have Friday games. So I don't know

2630
02:07:13,880 --> 02:07:15,840
Speaker 5: if that's something they'll ever jump over because they want

2631
02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:17,960
Speaker 5: to pay respect to the high school schedule.

2632
02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:19,080
Speaker 2: Are they really doing that?

2633
02:07:19,480 --> 02:07:21,600
Speaker 4: I don't know that that's what the law was back

2634
02:07:21,640 --> 02:07:22,880
Speaker 4: in nineteen seventy something like.

2635
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:25,600
Speaker 2: I okay, so let me shine a little light on

2636
02:07:25,720 --> 02:07:32,120
Speaker 2: that the NFL, the high school football season is over Thanksgiving. Correct,

2637
02:07:32,840 --> 02:07:39,160
Speaker 2: So you have from Thanksgiving on where there's no Friday

2638
02:07:39,200 --> 02:07:40,120
Speaker 2: football for.

2639
02:07:40,200 --> 02:07:41,720
Speaker 4: The NFL or for high school sports.

2640
02:07:41,760 --> 02:07:46,720
Speaker 2: Correct. So like they only go to Saturdays when college

2641
02:07:46,760 --> 02:07:47,680
Speaker 2: football goes dark.

2642
02:07:47,880 --> 02:07:50,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, when college football goes to basically bowl season, yeah,

2643
02:07:50,720 --> 02:07:51,800
Speaker 5: meetingless bowl season.

2644
02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:56,120
Speaker 3: So I don't know, I mean, why not go Friday.

2645
02:07:58,000 --> 02:07:58,320
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2646
02:07:58,440 --> 02:08:01,440
Speaker 2: Something tells me that they don't look at high school

2647
02:08:01,480 --> 02:08:02,200
Speaker 2: football or something.

2648
02:08:02,440 --> 02:08:04,520
Speaker 4: You know, No, you're right, oh, trust me.

2649
02:08:04,680 --> 02:08:08,000
Speaker 5: Especially now it's talk about being the ultimate capitalist, the NFL,

2650
02:08:08,120 --> 02:08:10,240
Speaker 5: you know, cannibalizing Christmas in every holiday.

2651
02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:12,920
Speaker 4: But the NFL will play three is sixty five days

2652
02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:13,600
Speaker 4: a year if they could.

2653
02:08:14,040 --> 02:08:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so and still.

2654
02:08:15,840 --> 02:08:16,680
Speaker 4: Getting monster ratings.

2655
02:08:16,760 --> 02:08:18,520
Speaker 3: And you know, the Friday night Lights thing is great.

2656
02:08:18,680 --> 02:08:20,240
Speaker 3: But and I love it.

2657
02:08:20,520 --> 02:08:23,800
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of places around the country, like

2658
02:08:23,920 --> 02:08:28,160
Speaker 2: in my area, where you're playing Friday Day. True, yeah,

2659
02:08:28,280 --> 02:08:31,280
Speaker 2: you know, like you're playing you know, but.

2660
02:08:31,320 --> 02:08:33,280
Speaker 5: There's a lot of football mecas where that's still not

2661
02:08:33,360 --> 02:08:35,560
Speaker 5: the case. I mean, I would say, you're Los Angeles

2662
02:08:35,680 --> 02:08:38,800
Speaker 5: in Texas. Many places you know Florida a lot of places.

2663
02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:41,480
Speaker 5: Playing under the lights on Friday is still special.

2664
02:08:41,920 --> 02:08:44,800
Speaker 3: True, Like you know, listen, we even have Saturday games too.

2665
02:08:45,040 --> 02:08:45,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2666
02:08:45,840 --> 02:08:51,280
Speaker 2: Like I I completely get it, Molly point Is. I'm

2667
02:08:51,440 --> 02:08:55,480
Speaker 2: curious you pluck this up. It's fascinating. I think that

2668
02:08:55,720 --> 02:08:59,760
Speaker 2: we would consume it. Here's the thing. Your only consume

2669
02:08:59,840 --> 02:09:06,200
Speaker 2: me the daily football from Saturday from September, you know

2670
02:09:07,800 --> 02:09:13,480
Speaker 2: through you know at the DAILI football would end in January, January,

2671
02:09:13,560 --> 02:09:14,680
Speaker 2: four months yeah.

2672
02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:15,600
Speaker 4: Before playoffs January.

2673
02:09:15,720 --> 02:09:19,640
Speaker 3: Yep. I mean I think people, I don't think it

2674
02:09:19,640 --> 02:09:20,120
Speaker 3: would hurt it.

2675
02:09:20,600 --> 02:09:22,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean for me, there's I think what makes

2676
02:09:22,600 --> 02:09:26,400
Speaker 5: the NFL so successful is there's levels of scarcity to it.

2677
02:09:27,000 --> 02:09:29,640
Speaker 5: So one, you play once a week, you have a

2678
02:09:29,840 --> 02:09:33,040
Speaker 5: very short regular season and a very long off season,

2679
02:09:34,080 --> 02:09:36,680
Speaker 5: and you know, the games are kind of jammed up

2680
02:09:36,680 --> 02:09:39,840
Speaker 5: together to your point, you have Sunday, Monday, and then

2681
02:09:39,880 --> 02:09:42,200
Speaker 5: every now and then Thursday or I guess now Thursday

2682
02:09:42,240 --> 02:09:45,480
Speaker 5: has started from week one, Thursday and Saturday. The more

2683
02:09:45,560 --> 02:09:48,000
Speaker 5: scarcity that you lose, the less of a novelty that

2684
02:09:48,080 --> 02:09:50,200
Speaker 5: you are, the less interest that I think you're gonna get.

2685
02:09:50,600 --> 02:09:52,040
Speaker 5: So I'm not saying the NFL is the NFL is

2686
02:09:52,080 --> 02:09:54,600
Speaker 5: not gonna die. If they expanded and played more days

2687
02:09:54,680 --> 02:09:57,120
Speaker 5: during the week, they'll be fine. I do think that

2688
02:09:57,320 --> 02:10:00,840
Speaker 5: interest ratings might wane a little bit because for a

2689
02:10:00,920 --> 02:10:03,120
Speaker 5: lot of people during the week, life gets in the way.

2690
02:10:03,800 --> 02:10:06,240
Speaker 5: It's easy to schedule around don't mess with me from

2691
02:10:06,600 --> 02:10:11,000
Speaker 5: ten am till seven at night on Sunday from September

2692
02:10:11,080 --> 02:10:11,680
Speaker 5: to January.

2693
02:10:11,760 --> 02:10:12,880
Speaker 4: Because you know where I'm gonna be.

2694
02:10:13,880 --> 02:10:15,720
Speaker 5: It becomes a lot more difficult to say, don't mess

2695
02:10:15,800 --> 02:10:21,000
Speaker 5: with me Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday and Wednesday between four

2696
02:10:21,120 --> 02:10:23,920
Speaker 5: pm and eight pm. So I gotta watch all these games.

2697
02:10:24,680 --> 02:10:26,200
Speaker 5: Life doesn't work that way, you know.

2698
02:10:26,400 --> 02:10:31,880
Speaker 2: So here's the thing, right, I think what you do

2699
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:37,520
Speaker 2: is you do one game during the week, so you

2700
02:10:37,680 --> 02:10:43,720
Speaker 2: definitely have to have Sunday. I would do how many

2701
02:10:43,760 --> 02:10:47,480
Speaker 2: games on the average are there, because you're gonna have

2702
02:10:47,480 --> 02:10:49,040
Speaker 2: to have a lot more about total.

2703
02:10:48,920 --> 02:10:51,160
Speaker 4: It's like two something. I forget exactly what is two

2704
02:10:51,200 --> 02:10:51,720
Speaker 4: hundred and something?

2705
02:10:51,800 --> 02:10:51,840
Speaker 2: Like?

2706
02:10:51,920 --> 02:10:52,280
Speaker 4: The games?

2707
02:10:52,560 --> 02:10:53,800
Speaker 2: All right, so.

2708
02:10:56,080 --> 02:10:59,840
Speaker 3: Each week, let's say the average is watch twelve games.

2709
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:02,160
Speaker 4: Something like that. Yeah, you start once you incorporate buys

2710
02:11:02,200 --> 02:11:02,480
Speaker 4: and all that.

2711
02:11:02,640 --> 02:11:05,080
Speaker 2: Yep, right, so just flip let's go off the twelve

2712
02:11:05,160 --> 02:11:08,880
Speaker 2: game model. So right off the bat, what I would

2713
02:11:08,920 --> 02:11:11,000
Speaker 2: do is I would have a European game at ten

2714
02:11:12,880 --> 02:11:14,440
Speaker 2: or in the morning nine.

2715
02:11:14,800 --> 02:11:16,720
Speaker 4: By the way, I think it's gonna happen sooner than later.

2716
02:11:16,760 --> 02:11:19,680
Speaker 5: What we're gonna go it's for a weekly international game

2717
02:11:19,920 --> 02:11:20,560
Speaker 5: is gonna happen.

2718
02:11:20,840 --> 02:11:22,560
Speaker 2: It has to happen. It's just gonna happen.

2719
02:11:22,720 --> 02:11:25,320
Speaker 4: That's probably gonna coincide with the eighteen game schedule.

2720
02:11:25,360 --> 02:11:29,080
Speaker 2: Right, So throw that in the mix like a first

2721
02:11:29,240 --> 02:11:33,440
Speaker 2: so you would have the early early and I'm doing

2722
02:11:33,480 --> 02:11:34,520
Speaker 2: on the East Coast time, so.

2723
02:11:34,640 --> 02:11:36,880
Speaker 5: Like a nine am kick East Coast time or whatever

2724
02:11:36,960 --> 02:11:39,480
Speaker 5: it is, right, I guess it's ten on the East

2725
02:11:39,520 --> 02:11:41,760
Speaker 5: coast ten, okay, you know, or not?

2726
02:11:41,880 --> 02:11:42,400
Speaker 3: Maybe, I don't know.

2727
02:11:42,400 --> 02:11:43,160
Speaker 4: If it's six sixth time.

2728
02:11:43,160 --> 02:11:44,720
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think from a West coast standpoint, these

2729
02:11:44,720 --> 02:11:46,080
Speaker 5: games will start forget.

2730
02:11:46,320 --> 02:11:48,160
Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think it was like like

2731
02:11:49,200 --> 02:11:49,800
Speaker 3: six thirty.

2732
02:11:50,040 --> 02:11:56,080
Speaker 2: So say nine thirty one o'clock, which is your ten, four,

2733
02:11:56,880 --> 02:12:00,360
Speaker 2: eight twenty five? All right, right, so right off the bat,

2734
02:12:00,480 --> 02:12:04,280
Speaker 2: you have to just put those four aside, okay, all right?

2735
02:12:05,000 --> 02:12:08,480
Speaker 3: Then you would have two on Monday, So.

2736
02:12:08,560 --> 02:12:10,200
Speaker 4: A consistent Monday night doubleheader.

2737
02:12:10,440 --> 02:12:11,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that works.

2738
02:12:11,560 --> 02:12:14,280
Speaker 5: Okay, Now, are we talking to a legit doubleheader or

2739
02:12:14,320 --> 02:12:15,800
Speaker 5: a staggered start like they've done.

2740
02:12:16,080 --> 02:12:17,600
Speaker 3: I think you do a legit double header.

2741
02:12:17,640 --> 02:12:19,240
Speaker 4: I would too. I'm not a fan of the stagger star.

2742
02:12:19,600 --> 02:12:22,720
Speaker 2: Stagger like that. I think I think you'd do it.

2743
02:12:23,040 --> 02:12:27,800
Speaker 2: You know, maybe six and nine or do whatever five

2744
02:12:27,920 --> 02:12:30,960
Speaker 2: in East five and eight or something like that. Right, right,

2745
02:12:32,720 --> 02:12:35,040
Speaker 2: then you go, because I don't know what West coast

2746
02:12:35,120 --> 02:12:40,640
Speaker 2: do you want a game at two and five? Would

2747
02:12:40,680 --> 02:12:41,400
Speaker 2: that mess you up?

2748
02:12:41,800 --> 02:12:42,440
Speaker 4: Probably not?

2749
02:12:42,640 --> 02:12:44,280
Speaker 5: If you're the NFL, You're not gonna get a lot

2750
02:12:44,280 --> 02:12:46,360
Speaker 5: of eyeballs at two in the afternoon on a Monday

2751
02:12:46,640 --> 02:12:47,320
Speaker 5: on the West Coast.

2752
02:12:47,360 --> 02:12:47,920
Speaker 4: You just aren't.

2753
02:12:48,720 --> 02:12:51,680
Speaker 5: And you've said before, the East Coast generally speaking, has

2754
02:12:51,720 --> 02:12:52,720
Speaker 5: no issue staying up late.

2755
02:12:53,600 --> 02:12:56,400
Speaker 4: Right, You're gonna lose some, but you're not. You're gonna lose.

2756
02:12:56,320 --> 02:12:58,880
Speaker 5: More by starting a game at two o'clock in the

2757
02:12:58,960 --> 02:13:00,640
Speaker 5: afternoon on the West coast, and you're going are going

2758
02:13:00,680 --> 02:13:02,480
Speaker 5: to start by starting a game at nine o'clock at

2759
02:13:02,600 --> 02:13:03,320
Speaker 5: night on the East coast.

2760
02:13:03,440 --> 02:13:04,920
Speaker 2: Right, That's why I think you need to do the

2761
02:13:05,040 --> 02:13:08,320
Speaker 2: doubleheader with the West Coast in mind. Yeah, So it's

2762
02:13:08,360 --> 02:13:10,960
Speaker 2: not too early today that you can still get like

2763
02:13:11,680 --> 02:13:14,400
Speaker 2: you could make happy hour a thing. Right, So on

2764
02:13:15,520 --> 02:13:18,480
Speaker 2: the West Coast and you start at four o'clock like

2765
02:13:18,960 --> 02:13:21,120
Speaker 2: a four pm kick, I think you get eyes.

2766
02:13:21,400 --> 02:13:23,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you'll get some at the very you'll get second

2767
02:13:23,360 --> 02:13:24,440
Speaker 4: half eyes of nothing else.

2768
02:13:24,520 --> 02:13:26,160
Speaker 5: You'll get a lot of second half eyes or people

2769
02:13:26,240 --> 02:13:29,200
Speaker 5: driving around who are NFL fans will listen for radio

2770
02:13:29,320 --> 02:13:29,920
Speaker 5: ratings and all that.

2771
02:13:30,120 --> 02:13:31,800
Speaker 4: So I mean, yeah, at four.

2772
02:13:31,640 --> 02:13:34,440
Speaker 5: O'clock or a four thirty West Coast start time for

2773
02:13:34,480 --> 02:13:35,480
Speaker 5: the first game will be great.

2774
02:13:36,440 --> 02:13:38,640
Speaker 2: All right. So if you did the hubble that now

2775
02:13:38,640 --> 02:13:42,040
Speaker 2: that's six games. So then you would do a Tuesday,

2776
02:13:42,240 --> 02:13:46,960
Speaker 2: a Wednesday, a Thursday, a Friday. This is one game

2777
02:13:47,000 --> 02:13:51,560
Speaker 2: of day, yes, okay, just one game a day. So

2778
02:13:51,720 --> 02:13:55,800
Speaker 2: now you're up to what ten? Now you have two

2779
02:13:55,920 --> 02:14:00,200
Speaker 2: other games that you would put back on Sunday, just

2780
02:14:01,000 --> 02:14:02,360
Speaker 2: you don't have a European game.

2781
02:14:02,960 --> 02:14:05,240
Speaker 3: Then you would have three extras on Sundays.

2782
02:14:05,400 --> 02:14:06,840
Speaker 4: Got you fine?

2783
02:14:06,920 --> 02:14:08,720
Speaker 5: By the way, when it comes to bye weeks and

2784
02:14:08,760 --> 02:14:11,640
Speaker 5: all that, this creates a logistical nightmare for the schedule maker.

2785
02:14:12,320 --> 02:14:17,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's well, you played Wednesday this week. Then

2786
02:14:17,720 --> 02:14:19,160
Speaker 3: where groc has to come in?

2787
02:14:20,600 --> 02:14:20,880
Speaker 4: Grock.

2788
02:14:21,200 --> 02:14:23,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe, you know, it wouldn't surprise me if these

2789
02:14:23,960 --> 02:14:27,240
Speaker 5: leagues now are using uh my Grede job putting this

2790
02:14:27,240 --> 02:14:29,520
Speaker 5: stuff together for the NFL, and he's the big schedule guru.

2791
02:14:30,080 --> 02:14:32,080
Speaker 4: I'm sure they use some sort of AI model now

2792
02:14:32,200 --> 02:14:33,760
Speaker 4: to put all this stuff together. I'm sure they do.

2793
02:14:34,400 --> 02:14:37,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Rock, make me an NFL schedule, man,

2794
02:14:37,760 --> 02:14:40,480
Speaker 2: you could probably do probably spin it out in three seconds. Yeah,

2795
02:14:41,080 --> 02:14:43,920
Speaker 2: you know, give me the NFL schedule that would have

2796
02:14:44,840 --> 02:14:52,160
Speaker 2: bye weeks and every day covered except Saturday. Yeah, I mean,

2797
02:14:52,320 --> 02:14:57,600
Speaker 2: I mean, to your point, I'm thinking about this someday

2798
02:14:57,640 --> 02:15:03,200
Speaker 2: would lose a little bit, a little bit, but I

2799
02:15:03,480 --> 02:15:03,720
Speaker 2: you know.

2800
02:15:04,360 --> 02:15:07,080
Speaker 5: I mean, but yeah, but to your point, more eyeballs

2801
02:15:07,240 --> 02:15:09,920
Speaker 5: or more games consistently, so you're not it's.

2802
02:15:09,640 --> 02:15:13,800
Speaker 2: Worth more than red zone. Correctly, singular games are worth

2803
02:15:13,880 --> 02:15:14,959
Speaker 2: more than red zone.

2804
02:15:14,800 --> 02:15:16,600
Speaker 4: Though I will say, like, we are not fans of

2805
02:15:16,640 --> 02:15:18,080
Speaker 4: red zone. We want to watch games.

2806
02:15:18,160 --> 02:15:21,560
Speaker 5: But the younger generation who they're appealing to, because these

2807
02:15:21,560 --> 02:15:22,960
Speaker 5: are the people that they have to sell to to

2808
02:15:23,040 --> 02:15:24,600
Speaker 5: keep the sport thriving.

2809
02:15:24,640 --> 02:15:27,720
Speaker 4: Eat it up. They eat up highlights. You know, talk

2810
02:15:27,760 --> 02:15:30,080
Speaker 4: about the NBA culture and how young that skews and

2811
02:15:30,160 --> 02:15:31,280
Speaker 4: these kids want highlights.

2812
02:15:31,600 --> 02:15:34,520
Speaker 5: The kids eat up red zone they love it. Fantasy

2813
02:15:34,600 --> 02:15:37,520
Speaker 5: players eat up red zone coverage. They watch highlights, they

2814
02:15:37,520 --> 02:15:40,120
Speaker 5: don't watch games. There's a business for that too, and

2815
02:15:40,240 --> 02:15:43,720
Speaker 5: that business suffers if you start splitting things up like that.

2816
02:15:44,760 --> 02:15:46,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is why I don't think they'd.

2817
02:15:46,600 --> 02:15:47,000
Speaker 3: Ever do it.

2818
02:15:47,800 --> 02:15:51,520
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. I'm trying to think out

2819
02:15:51,560 --> 02:15:57,720
Speaker 2: it works? Could you stagger it better? So?

2820
02:15:59,320 --> 02:16:03,840
Speaker 3: Is there way this stagger kickoff starts.

2821
02:16:05,240 --> 02:16:07,320
Speaker 2: So you can have a New.

2822
02:16:08,640 --> 02:16:12,240
Speaker 3: Eastern that's kind of early?

2823
02:16:13,520 --> 02:16:15,160
Speaker 5: I mean you have college football games that kick off

2824
02:16:15,200 --> 02:16:18,960
Speaker 5: at New and Eastern. Yeah, you're getting no complaints to

2825
02:16:19,000 --> 02:16:20,880
Speaker 5: make from me. Waking up to football is the greatest

2826
02:16:20,920 --> 02:16:24,360
Speaker 5: thing ever. So I don't know how you guys wait

2827
02:16:24,360 --> 02:16:26,240
Speaker 5: around all day for one o'clock for games to start

2828
02:16:26,320 --> 02:16:26,760
Speaker 5: to be honest.

2829
02:16:26,880 --> 02:16:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to figure out the way is if Yeah,

2830
02:16:29,000 --> 02:16:32,440
Speaker 2: because there are eleven am starts too, do you is

2831
02:16:32,480 --> 02:16:36,600
Speaker 2: there a way to stagger the day so you you

2832
02:16:36,680 --> 02:16:38,600
Speaker 2: would be able to see.

2833
02:16:39,600 --> 02:16:41,920
Speaker 3: More of the games. They'd still have to run in

2834
02:16:42,000 --> 02:16:42,120
Speaker 3: you of.

2835
02:16:42,160 --> 02:16:44,320
Speaker 4: Each other, so you don't have a you know, a

2836
02:16:44,760 --> 02:16:45,400
Speaker 4: for East Coast.

2837
02:16:45,440 --> 02:16:47,440
Speaker 5: You don't have a one o'clock and a four o'clock window,

2838
02:16:48,120 --> 02:16:50,279
Speaker 5: you have, you spread it out a little bit more.

2839
02:16:50,959 --> 02:16:52,720
Speaker 3: Right, So if you just go off the East coast

2840
02:16:52,760 --> 02:16:56,640
Speaker 3: time you would have if you did it new.

2841
02:16:58,360 --> 02:17:03,000
Speaker 2: A three, she'd have to start really probably at eleven

2842
02:17:03,200 --> 02:17:11,240
Speaker 2: and do eleven to five eight or eleven thirty two,

2843
02:17:11,480 --> 02:17:13,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like where you could try

2844
02:17:13,240 --> 02:17:15,320
Speaker 2: to fit in off a game in and.

2845
02:17:15,400 --> 02:17:18,600
Speaker 5: So you're not kicking off, you know, eight games at once,

2846
02:17:19,480 --> 02:17:21,680
Speaker 5: rocking off two at a time or three at a time.

2847
02:17:21,600 --> 02:17:25,080
Speaker 2: And stead of maximize basically you're maximizing your inventory.

2848
02:17:25,360 --> 02:17:25,520
Speaker 4: Right.

2849
02:17:26,280 --> 02:17:29,080
Speaker 2: If you have twelve games of inventory on average a week,

2850
02:17:29,320 --> 02:17:32,640
Speaker 2: including by weeks, that's your inventory.

2851
02:17:33,040 --> 02:17:33,200
Speaker 3: Right.

2852
02:17:33,640 --> 02:17:37,360
Speaker 2: Why do I want to bundle the inventory when I

2853
02:17:37,560 --> 02:17:42,320
Speaker 2: know I got consumers that would want the inventory singularly.

2854
02:17:43,920 --> 02:17:47,440
Speaker 5: Only because you're serving multiple masters. Because there are people

2855
02:17:47,560 --> 02:17:49,880
Speaker 5: that want to buy just their team. There are Eagle

2856
02:17:49,959 --> 02:17:53,040
Speaker 5: fans who live in LA. I get the Sunday ticket

2857
02:17:53,120 --> 02:17:54,480
Speaker 5: just so I can watch the Eagles. I can give

2858
02:17:54,480 --> 02:17:56,680
Speaker 5: a rip about anybody else. There are people who are

2859
02:17:56,720 --> 02:17:58,520
Speaker 5: fans of the league that want to watch every team

2860
02:17:58,560 --> 02:18:00,959
Speaker 5: they possibly can, so they'll put up the game mix

2861
02:18:01,040 --> 02:18:03,640
Speaker 5: on YouTube TV. There are people like we mentioned a

2862
02:18:03,680 --> 02:18:06,280
Speaker 5: second ago, who love their fantasy team or just want

2863
02:18:06,320 --> 02:18:07,520
Speaker 5: to see highlights and watch.

2864
02:18:07,400 --> 02:18:10,000
Speaker 4: The red zone and the red zone. It eats into

2865
02:18:10,040 --> 02:18:10,480
Speaker 4: the red.

2866
02:18:10,400 --> 02:18:13,039
Speaker 5: Zones product if you only have three games to bounce

2867
02:18:13,080 --> 02:18:16,000
Speaker 5: around to as opposed to nine, So they have to

2868
02:18:16,080 --> 02:18:18,520
Speaker 5: serve them too. So the NFL has put themselves in

2869
02:18:18,600 --> 02:18:20,840
Speaker 5: a situation where they have multiple masters.

2870
02:18:20,520 --> 02:18:23,400
Speaker 4: To serve, and right now they're kind of winning at

2871
02:18:23,440 --> 02:18:24,240
Speaker 4: being able to do that.

2872
02:18:24,920 --> 02:18:28,440
Speaker 3: Yes, no, no, I mean we're just so. It's always

2873
02:18:28,520 --> 02:18:29,120
Speaker 3: talk job.

2874
02:18:29,240 --> 02:18:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always fun to kind of rethink. Reimagine is

2875
02:18:33,640 --> 02:18:34,440
Speaker 2: the work.

2876
02:18:35,280 --> 02:18:36,640
Speaker 3: Reimagine it's a good work.

2877
02:18:36,959 --> 02:18:42,280
Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes it becomes better, like college football reimagined is

2878
02:18:42,600 --> 02:18:45,680
Speaker 2: better than college was the thing that I didn't like

2879
02:18:45,720 --> 02:18:47,080
Speaker 2: when people were talking about the ratings.

2880
02:18:48,000 --> 02:18:49,760
Speaker 3: I don't know why the ratings weren't there.

2881
02:18:50,720 --> 02:18:53,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. All I know was I felt a

2882
02:18:53,720 --> 02:18:57,400
Speaker 2: different buzz around college football this year. I thought it

2883
02:18:57,480 --> 02:18:57,879
Speaker 2: was better.

2884
02:18:58,840 --> 02:19:01,240
Speaker 5: I agree, you have more teams that have more relevant

2885
02:19:01,240 --> 02:19:05,400
Speaker 5: games later in the season, more than ever. I thought

2886
02:19:05,760 --> 02:19:07,560
Speaker 5: the expansion of the playoff, which I was a critic

2887
02:19:07,640 --> 02:19:10,320
Speaker 5: of initially, I ended up loving it. I was a turncoat.

2888
02:19:10,400 --> 02:19:12,040
Speaker 5: I thought it was absolutely amazing. It's one of the

2889
02:19:12,040 --> 02:19:13,640
Speaker 5: best things college football could have ever done.

2890
02:19:13,920 --> 02:19:18,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree, reibadgining is always interesting. All right,

2891
02:19:18,360 --> 02:19:20,640
Speaker 2: we got to take a quick break. We're gonna visit

2892
02:19:21,000 --> 02:19:25,160
Speaker 2: with the Brain and we'll take a look at sports

2893
02:19:25,240 --> 02:19:28,000
Speaker 2: from a betting standpoint. He's coming up next, fellas, right

2894
02:19:28,040 --> 02:19:30,160
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio.

2895
02:19:30,640 --> 02:19:33,520
Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

2896
02:19:33,560 --> 02:19:36,920
Speaker 6: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

2897
02:19:37,080 --> 02:19:41,120
Speaker 6: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

2898
02:19:41,280 --> 02:19:41,880
Speaker 6: listen live.

2899
02:19:43,640 --> 02:19:49,960
Speaker 2: Alright, fellas, from the ti Raq dot com studios, Kevin Figures,

2900
02:19:50,000 --> 02:19:53,280
Speaker 2: I'm Anthony Gargana FITZI coming up later on today and

2901
02:19:53,480 --> 02:19:57,240
Speaker 2: joining us as he does each week, to talk about

2902
02:19:57,360 --> 02:20:02,240
Speaker 2: sports from a betting angle. Man our betting analyst, the Brain.

2903
02:20:03,360 --> 02:20:06,680
Speaker 2: Brad Feinberg, Good morning, Brain, Good morning.

2904
02:20:06,760 --> 02:20:07,879
Speaker 7: How are you guys today?

2905
02:20:08,640 --> 02:20:13,920
Speaker 2: So Figuri Brain is in Memphis right now, Oh, doing

2906
02:20:14,000 --> 02:20:17,959
Speaker 2: a du an NBA doubleheader with his son who goes

2907
02:20:18,040 --> 02:20:20,560
Speaker 2: to Vanderbilt with great Dad's amazing.

2908
02:20:21,840 --> 02:20:22,320
Speaker 3: Nice it was.

2909
02:20:22,879 --> 02:20:24,840
Speaker 7: We got a good one last night. We got a

2910
02:20:24,879 --> 02:20:29,600
Speaker 7: good one last night. Uh, Nick, you know we're losing.

2911
02:20:30,680 --> 02:20:32,800
Speaker 7: I don't think they were winning the entire game until

2912
02:20:32,840 --> 02:20:34,720
Speaker 7: the final score. I could be wrong, but I don't.

2913
02:20:35,000 --> 02:20:37,240
Speaker 7: I don't remember them. Maybe they're winning one by one,

2914
02:20:37,560 --> 02:20:41,760
Speaker 7: I mean they never were winning and day to play

2915
02:20:41,920 --> 02:20:45,040
Speaker 7: with four seconds to go and John Marian missed the

2916
02:20:45,760 --> 02:20:47,840
Speaker 7: kind of a running floater at the end, and uh

2917
02:20:48,440 --> 02:20:50,080
Speaker 7: Nick stole one last night. But it was a fun

2918
02:20:50,160 --> 02:20:52,040
Speaker 7: game and had a great time.

2919
02:20:53,000 --> 02:20:53,480
Speaker 4: That's awesome.

2920
02:20:54,040 --> 02:20:55,600
Speaker 5: And how you get a chance to see Vandy get

2921
02:20:55,640 --> 02:20:57,440
Speaker 5: a chance to knock off number fourteen Missouri.

2922
02:20:57,560 --> 02:20:59,880
Speaker 4: Vandy's knocking on the door of a being a bubble team.

2923
02:21:01,840 --> 02:21:05,160
Speaker 7: I think Danny definitely deserves to absolutely be in the tournament,

2924
02:21:05,520 --> 02:21:08,640
Speaker 7: absolutely be in the tournament. I don't think I would

2925
02:21:08,680 --> 02:21:11,240
Speaker 7: be surprised if they're a true bubble I would have

2926
02:21:11,400 --> 02:21:14,560
Speaker 7: them in. I absolutely would have them in. I mean

2927
02:21:14,600 --> 02:21:17,080
Speaker 7: I have them ranked like probably in like the mid thirties,

2928
02:21:17,160 --> 02:21:20,199
Speaker 7: and my ranking somewhere like that. I think they should

2929
02:21:20,280 --> 02:21:23,480
Speaker 7: make it again. I think they're sitting at nineteen wins

2930
02:21:23,560 --> 02:21:26,240
Speaker 7: right now, they're gonna be over twenty. I think Vandy

2931
02:21:26,360 --> 02:21:28,240
Speaker 7: is a very very good chance of Obviously, you did

2932
02:21:28,280 --> 02:21:31,480
Speaker 7: a win of a Missouri that probably should almost quinch it,

2933
02:21:31,560 --> 02:21:32,080
Speaker 7: you would think.

2934
02:21:32,520 --> 02:21:37,400
Speaker 2: But I do like them very much, all right, lots

2935
02:21:37,480 --> 02:21:44,160
Speaker 2: to get you, all right, the first, we figured out

2936
02:21:44,160 --> 02:21:49,240
Speaker 2: we're talking about this because we both love one game

2937
02:21:49,280 --> 02:21:50,320
Speaker 2: in the NBA tonight.

2938
02:21:51,120 --> 02:21:54,040
Speaker 4: Can you guess who we love tonight?

2939
02:21:55,360 --> 02:21:58,480
Speaker 7: Because the game in the NBA. You look here, let

2940
02:21:58,520 --> 02:21:59,840
Speaker 7: me bring up my things. I'm sorry.

2941
02:22:00,080 --> 02:22:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I both love this game and we wanted to.

2942
02:22:03,800 --> 02:22:06,760
Speaker 2: We were curious if the pro like yourself would be

2943
02:22:07,160 --> 02:22:07,560
Speaker 2: this gate.

2944
02:22:07,920 --> 02:22:10,600
Speaker 7: Oh well, okay, well I think I know what game

2945
02:22:10,720 --> 02:22:13,680
Speaker 7: is for you, Anthony. My favorite game in the med

2946
02:22:13,720 --> 02:22:15,080
Speaker 7: May which. Don't think this is gonna be your pick.

2947
02:22:15,080 --> 02:22:16,800
Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you what. I think your pick is

2948
02:22:16,959 --> 02:22:20,000
Speaker 7: my pick. I bet the Rockets minus fourty at home

2949
02:22:20,040 --> 02:22:25,520
Speaker 7: against Sacramento. I think the better team at home, playing

2950
02:22:25,560 --> 02:22:28,320
Speaker 7: a very reasonable price, by the way, the healthiest. I

2951
02:22:28,400 --> 02:22:31,960
Speaker 7: believe we've seen Houston in forever. Yeah, every one of

2952
02:22:32,040 --> 02:22:36,240
Speaker 7: the players. Yeah. I think Dan is finally expected back

2953
02:22:36,280 --> 02:22:39,080
Speaker 7: to May after missing forever for them, which has hurt

2954
02:22:39,160 --> 02:22:41,160
Speaker 7: them quite a bit. I think they get it done.

2955
02:22:41,200 --> 02:22:43,360
Speaker 7: But I think for you guys, it's going to be

2956
02:22:43,480 --> 02:22:45,720
Speaker 7: Golden State to win by aazillion over the Sixers.

2957
02:22:46,200 --> 02:22:50,920
Speaker 5: Correct, Brett, how is that line right now? I'm looking

2958
02:22:50,959 --> 02:22:53,119
Speaker 5: at eight and a half. How is that not eighteen.

2959
02:22:55,320 --> 02:22:56,840
Speaker 4: From the start? Of the show. How is that not

2960
02:22:56,920 --> 02:22:58,400
Speaker 4: eighteen and a half right now, Brett.

2961
02:22:58,879 --> 02:23:01,760
Speaker 7: I mean, listen, Anthony and me probably could be on

2962
02:23:01,920 --> 02:23:04,320
Speaker 7: a I don't even know who could talk longer about

2963
02:23:04,360 --> 02:23:08,560
Speaker 7: the Sixers, uh uh in terms of how brutal if

2964
02:23:08,600 --> 02:23:10,320
Speaker 7: they are, me or Anthony would be probably get the

2965
02:23:10,360 --> 02:23:13,119
Speaker 7: gold and silver medal in the Olympics, because we've been

2966
02:23:13,240 --> 02:23:17,240
Speaker 7: talking about this team and just what a disappointments not

2967
02:23:17,360 --> 02:23:18,960
Speaker 7: even I don't even know if there's a word in

2968
02:23:19,000 --> 02:23:22,720
Speaker 7: the dictionary for what the Sixers are. Listen, I get it.

2969
02:23:23,040 --> 02:23:25,800
Speaker 7: I mean I looked. I this is a game that's interesting.

2970
02:23:25,920 --> 02:23:27,840
Speaker 7: This game has just played a little bit like a

2971
02:23:27,920 --> 02:23:30,360
Speaker 7: little bit earlier. Gosh, I feel like if I don't

2972
02:23:30,400 --> 02:23:33,240
Speaker 7: even get that much lower a Golden State's team right now,

2973
02:23:33,280 --> 02:23:35,560
Speaker 7: I'd like to back. I love what they've done, give

2974
02:23:35,600 --> 02:23:37,600
Speaker 7: me Jimmy Butler. I feel like it's changed the entire

2975
02:23:37,800 --> 02:23:42,000
Speaker 7: energy and direction of the team or Golden State. I mean,

2976
02:23:42,080 --> 02:23:44,080
Speaker 7: I'm not predicting it, but this is a team I

2977
02:23:44,160 --> 02:23:46,160
Speaker 7: actually think he can really make a run on the

2978
02:23:46,200 --> 02:23:48,480
Speaker 7: Western Conference. I love the way they're playing right now.

2979
02:23:49,240 --> 02:23:54,000
Speaker 7: Fixer's dead money. Nothing about the team is appealing again,

2980
02:23:54,120 --> 02:23:56,080
Speaker 7: like the only way why would this game not cover

2981
02:23:56,720 --> 02:23:59,640
Speaker 7: It's it's the game and what early you know, early

2982
02:23:59,680 --> 02:24:02,480
Speaker 7: in March the NBA season out of eighty two, that

2983
02:24:02,560 --> 02:24:05,280
Speaker 7: would be the only reason this game meant anything. In

2984
02:24:05,400 --> 02:24:08,000
Speaker 7: Golden State cared they would name the score. I couldn't

2985
02:24:08,000 --> 02:24:08,480
Speaker 7: agree more.

2986
02:24:08,760 --> 02:24:11,640
Speaker 5: You mentioned the Western Conference there in Golden State making

2987
02:24:11,680 --> 02:24:14,760
Speaker 5: a surge. They're currently sitting at number seven. How open

2988
02:24:14,840 --> 02:24:17,840
Speaker 5: do you think the West actually is? From a betting standpoint?

2989
02:24:17,879 --> 02:24:19,600
Speaker 5: We know Oklahoma City is running away with the top

2990
02:24:19,640 --> 02:24:22,640
Speaker 5: seat there, but Denver, Memphis, Lakers, Houston's knocking on the

2991
02:24:22,680 --> 02:24:25,600
Speaker 5: door there, Like how many teams do you think I

2992
02:24:25,600 --> 02:24:27,400
Speaker 5: have a legitimate shot of making it out of the

2993
02:24:27,440 --> 02:24:29,680
Speaker 5: West to go into the NBA Finals because it seems

2994
02:24:29,720 --> 02:24:31,000
Speaker 5: pretty competitive in the top six.

2995
02:24:32,240 --> 02:24:34,720
Speaker 7: Definitely is competitive. I don't think Houston's going to do it.

2996
02:24:34,800 --> 02:24:37,200
Speaker 7: I don't think Memphis is going to do it. Look

2997
02:24:37,280 --> 02:24:39,920
Speaker 7: ok See deservedly is the favorite, and I don't think

2998
02:24:39,959 --> 02:24:42,640
Speaker 7: anyone can take that away from him. Denver I got

2999
02:24:42,760 --> 02:24:44,720
Speaker 7: to give a lot of credit, I really do, because

3000
02:24:46,400 --> 02:24:48,199
Speaker 7: a couple of things has happened for Denver which weren't

3001
02:24:48,240 --> 02:24:51,480
Speaker 7: there last year. Braun and now many of a shooting

3002
02:24:51,480 --> 02:24:54,520
Speaker 7: guard shooting fifty seven percent from the floor. Great athlete. Yeah,

3003
02:24:54,640 --> 02:24:57,240
Speaker 7: Christian Braun has helped him a tremendous amount. I think

3004
02:24:57,320 --> 02:25:00,640
Speaker 7: Houston be discod they lose KCP were people are like, okay,

3005
02:25:00,720 --> 02:25:02,440
Speaker 7: lost a good role. Players try going to hurt their team.

3006
02:25:03,280 --> 02:25:06,120
Speaker 7: Really hasn't because Braun has stepped up and been incredible

3007
02:25:06,120 --> 02:25:07,880
Speaker 7: for them. They can do it. They have the best

3008
02:25:07,920 --> 02:25:12,119
Speaker 7: player in the world. Mary's still terrific, right, and then

3009
02:25:12,440 --> 02:25:15,080
Speaker 7: you know Porter's a good number three, and then Braun

3010
02:25:15,120 --> 02:25:17,520
Speaker 7: has been great and then listen, as much as he's been.

3011
02:25:18,760 --> 02:25:21,640
Speaker 7: I always like giving credit to people who sometimes don't

3012
02:25:21,680 --> 02:25:24,840
Speaker 7: get it. Russell Westbrook was kind of a guy who's

3013
02:25:24,840 --> 02:25:28,400
Speaker 7: had a Hall of Fame career, undoubtedly halting career. He's

3014
02:25:28,440 --> 02:25:30,800
Speaker 7: also been a guy and with some good reasons been

3015
02:25:31,879 --> 02:25:34,520
Speaker 7: I don't want to think disrespected, but maybe they disrespect

3016
02:25:34,560 --> 02:25:37,120
Speaker 7: when people saying, oh, how you know he goes to

3017
02:25:37,240 --> 02:25:39,360
Speaker 7: Lake the Lakers, they don't feel them to do much.

3018
02:25:39,400 --> 02:25:42,039
Speaker 7: He can't shoot jumpers. But I actually think he's played

3019
02:25:42,160 --> 02:25:44,960
Speaker 7: quite well for them and made a very positive contributing player,

3020
02:25:46,080 --> 02:25:49,360
Speaker 7: which you know, I didn't know if I think he

3021
02:25:49,480 --> 02:25:51,360
Speaker 7: was necessarily going to do that for them. So I

3022
02:25:51,400 --> 02:25:53,800
Speaker 7: think Denver's added two players to their team that I

3023
02:25:53,879 --> 02:25:57,359
Speaker 7: actually think they absolutely could do it. Look the Lakers,

3024
02:25:57,959 --> 02:26:00,320
Speaker 7: they just lost Reeves last night was up. See how

3025
02:26:00,400 --> 02:26:02,520
Speaker 7: serious that is. I don't think they have the depth

3026
02:26:02,560 --> 02:26:05,120
Speaker 7: necessarily to get it done. I probably believe or not.

3027
02:26:05,240 --> 02:26:08,480
Speaker 7: Guys have. Golden State lank third for me personally in

3028
02:26:08,600 --> 02:26:10,560
Speaker 7: my opinion of getting to the NBA Finals, they would

3029
02:26:10,560 --> 02:26:14,280
Speaker 7: be my third choice. I think they can if they

3030
02:26:14,320 --> 02:26:18,480
Speaker 7: get if they get if they get Jonathan Kamingaback, I

3031
02:26:18,520 --> 02:26:19,840
Speaker 7: think that'd be a huge thing. But I think they're

3032
02:26:19,879 --> 02:26:20,320
Speaker 7: really good.

3033
02:26:21,080 --> 02:26:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree. All right, Big Day College Today,

3034
02:26:26,520 --> 02:26:30,280
Speaker 2: Monster Day College Basketball. We are actually the first of

3035
02:26:30,600 --> 02:26:36,000
Speaker 2: thirty one torn At conference tournaments begins. So we're about

3036
02:26:36,080 --> 02:26:39,600
Speaker 2: to hit that piece of March where all the conference

3037
02:26:39,680 --> 02:26:42,800
Speaker 2: tournaments and it leads us into selection Sunday and that

3038
02:26:42,920 --> 02:26:46,840
Speaker 2: all begins. Got some big games. Let's start off. We

3039
02:26:46,920 --> 02:26:49,240
Speaker 2: were talking about Tennessee Alabama.

3040
02:26:50,080 --> 02:26:53,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know it's yeah, you know right. We were

3041
02:26:53,520 --> 02:26:56,000
Speaker 7: to touch on me with you. I spoke to about

3042
02:26:56,000 --> 02:26:57,800
Speaker 7: if I thought the Flying would probably come in get

3043
02:26:57,879 --> 02:27:00,720
Speaker 7: like three and a half, earn off the team in

3044
02:27:00,760 --> 02:27:03,199
Speaker 7: at three and a half, it's exactly what I would

3045
02:27:03,200 --> 02:27:05,560
Speaker 7: have made it now. That being said, for me, Tennessee

3046
02:27:05,680 --> 02:27:09,560
Speaker 7: is definitely an easy lean for me at home. I

3047
02:27:09,800 --> 02:27:12,200
Speaker 7: like when these quote unquote even teams are playing at

3048
02:27:12,240 --> 02:27:15,160
Speaker 7: home and I can lay less than four points. I

3049
02:27:15,280 --> 02:27:18,879
Speaker 7: find my database. I'm usually covering the high fifties taking

3050
02:27:18,959 --> 02:27:21,520
Speaker 7: these home teams in these kind of spots, I like

3051
02:27:21,640 --> 02:27:25,840
Speaker 7: Tennessee to cover against Alabama. Tennessee's team, I'm not going

3052
02:27:25,920 --> 02:27:29,600
Speaker 7: to back on the tournament. They just until Barnes can

3053
02:27:29,680 --> 02:27:32,400
Speaker 7: do something in that way, I guess I always think

3054
02:27:32,400 --> 02:27:34,760
Speaker 7: they'll fall short, but they have been better, but I

3055
02:27:34,959 --> 02:27:37,080
Speaker 7: thought they would be without fault connect and I do

3056
02:27:37,240 --> 02:27:40,039
Speaker 7: think they do beat an Alabama team is a little

3057
02:27:40,040 --> 02:27:42,360
Speaker 7: bit inconsistent, and I do think they will win this

3058
02:27:42,480 --> 02:27:43,160
Speaker 7: team at home.

3059
02:27:44,120 --> 02:27:46,760
Speaker 5: How about Auburn on the road against Kentucky. We know

3060
02:27:46,840 --> 02:27:49,240
Speaker 5: Auburn the best team in the country right number one

3061
02:27:49,360 --> 02:27:50,440
Speaker 5: right now ahead to Duke, but.

3062
02:27:50,600 --> 02:27:51,840
Speaker 4: Kentucky really talented.

3063
02:27:51,959 --> 02:27:53,720
Speaker 5: Is a really great year that a lot of people

3064
02:27:53,800 --> 02:27:56,400
Speaker 5: didn't expect Mark Pope to have this sort of impact

3065
02:27:56,440 --> 02:27:58,560
Speaker 5: in year one. They're getting a couple of guys back

3066
02:27:58,600 --> 02:28:01,080
Speaker 5: from injury. How do you see this one playing out?

3067
02:28:01,879 --> 02:28:03,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I mean I thought this line would come in.

3068
02:28:04,040 --> 02:28:06,160
Speaker 7: It's a round five, and it came in at five.

3069
02:28:06,240 --> 02:28:09,400
Speaker 7: See sometimes it just comes in with the number is.

3070
02:28:09,480 --> 02:28:12,760
Speaker 7: It's like I don't like forcing stuff. Look I do

3071
02:28:12,959 --> 02:28:15,440
Speaker 7: I in my personal rankings, I do think Alburn is

3072
02:28:15,480 --> 02:28:17,720
Speaker 7: the best team. I actually do have them ready to

3073
02:28:17,800 --> 02:28:20,240
Speaker 7: head of the Duke, and I think Auburn is just

3074
02:28:21,000 --> 02:28:22,520
Speaker 7: I think they're the best this team to share in

3075
02:28:22,560 --> 02:28:24,760
Speaker 7: the college basketball. I think they the best player in

3076
02:28:24,879 --> 02:28:27,840
Speaker 7: Broom all respective tup of flags. I mean, Johnny Broom

3077
02:28:28,280 --> 02:28:32,280
Speaker 7: is the best. I do think. I just my lean

3078
02:28:32,879 --> 02:28:35,080
Speaker 7: hate doing on the road would be Alburn to get

3079
02:28:35,080 --> 02:28:37,440
Speaker 7: it done. But this is not a game I'm betting.

3080
02:28:37,520 --> 02:28:40,040
Speaker 7: This is an all hands deck game for Kentucky where

3081
02:28:40,040 --> 02:28:42,879
Speaker 7: the crowd's gonna be great. It's just really a lean

3082
02:28:42,959 --> 02:28:44,360
Speaker 7: for me for Auburn. But I kind of not was

3083
02:28:44,360 --> 02:28:46,359
Speaker 7: the right dumb Yeah, I still.

3084
02:28:47,560 --> 02:28:49,200
Speaker 2: I know you got all Burn ahead of Duke, and

3085
02:28:49,320 --> 02:28:52,520
Speaker 2: I still just I know the ac.

3086
02:28:53,360 --> 02:28:56,040
Speaker 7: Man right, that would just be that would that would

3087
02:28:56,040 --> 02:28:58,320
Speaker 7: be the finals game right there in the top two seeds.

3088
02:28:58,720 --> 02:29:01,080
Speaker 7: So that being happened, and then that you know that

3089
02:29:01,200 --> 02:29:02,920
Speaker 7: game's on a neutral court, I think would be probably

3090
02:29:02,959 --> 02:29:05,480
Speaker 7: Aublin by two. But I think it'd be a great

3091
02:29:05,560 --> 02:29:07,360
Speaker 7: matchup if we get it. You know they played earlier,

3092
02:29:07,560 --> 02:29:09,480
Speaker 7: it was a great game. I would love to see

3093
02:29:09,480 --> 02:29:13,320
Speaker 7: it again on Florida too. A. Well, that's that's that's

3094
02:29:13,360 --> 02:29:16,119
Speaker 7: one of my favorite games today. It's funny Florida coming

3095
02:29:16,160 --> 02:29:19,640
Speaker 7: off the loss and they've been playing amazing. They're playing

3096
02:29:19,640 --> 02:29:21,960
Speaker 7: at home against the TEXA and M team, who's a

3097
02:29:22,040 --> 02:29:24,400
Speaker 7: good team, but they had been leaking oil recently. Tex

3098
02:29:24,520 --> 02:29:28,680
Speaker 7: A and M got blown out against MSTIV State, then

3099
02:29:28,720 --> 02:29:32,080
Speaker 7: they lost like they lost at home in a game

3100
02:29:32,120 --> 02:29:34,519
Speaker 7: you thought would be a get right game to Vanderbilt

3101
02:29:34,560 --> 02:29:36,240
Speaker 7: and they lost a thirty team. I'm missing it off

3102
02:29:36,280 --> 02:29:37,680
Speaker 7: the top of my head right now. They've lost three

3103
02:29:37,720 --> 02:29:41,640
Speaker 7: in a row. Going against the Florida team that got

3104
02:29:41,800 --> 02:29:44,720
Speaker 7: upset against Georgia. I think, now it's not cheap, it's

3105
02:29:44,760 --> 02:29:47,720
Speaker 7: laying nine. It's laying nine, not cheap. But I just

3106
02:29:47,959 --> 02:29:50,400
Speaker 7: I think this is gonna be a game that Florida

3107
02:29:50,440 --> 02:29:52,560
Speaker 7: wins this one. I think they'll be up forty two

3108
02:29:52,640 --> 02:29:54,600
Speaker 7: thirty two a half time. I think they win this

3109
02:29:54,680 --> 02:29:57,560
Speaker 7: one by sixteen seventeen points at home. I'd be like them,

3110
02:29:57,560 --> 02:30:02,440
Speaker 7: and then then another team, Texas. Guys, they lost a

3111
02:30:02,520 --> 02:30:05,640
Speaker 7: game last week where they needed to win. They lost

3112
02:30:05,720 --> 02:30:09,200
Speaker 7: to Arkansas. Okay, they need to win this geame they

3113
02:30:09,200 --> 02:30:11,160
Speaker 7: have any chance to get to the tournament. They're at

3114
02:30:11,200 --> 02:30:14,320
Speaker 7: home against Georgia, they're laying five. I think they get

3115
02:30:14,360 --> 02:30:17,480
Speaker 7: it done. I think Texas at home will when just

3116
02:30:17,560 --> 02:30:21,240
Speaker 7: rung by double jed just against Georgia and literally a

3117
02:30:21,520 --> 02:30:22,920
Speaker 7: must winning game for them.

3118
02:30:23,879 --> 02:30:25,640
Speaker 5: You know, we're talking about a lot of the top teams,

3119
02:30:25,680 --> 02:30:28,440
Speaker 5: you know, Auburn, Duke, Florida teams that we expect to

3120
02:30:28,480 --> 02:30:30,760
Speaker 5: be in the mix for the national championship. Is there

3121
02:30:30,800 --> 02:30:32,520
Speaker 5: a team at this point in time, Brat that you

3122
02:30:32,560 --> 02:30:34,640
Speaker 5: can see that's kind of off of the radar. Yeah,

3123
02:30:34,680 --> 02:30:36,960
Speaker 5: they're a tournament team. Maybe there We're going to be

3124
02:30:37,000 --> 02:30:39,240
Speaker 5: a six or a seven seed that can actually make

3125
02:30:39,320 --> 02:30:41,040
Speaker 5: a deep run at this thing that people are not

3126
02:30:41,120 --> 02:30:42,120
Speaker 5: really talking about right now.

3127
02:30:42,200 --> 02:30:44,840
Speaker 3: George Mason, Yeah.

3128
02:30:46,160 --> 02:30:49,199
Speaker 7: George Bowmer, George Mason from when they did it before.

3129
02:30:49,240 --> 02:30:51,360
Speaker 3: But well no, no, That's what I'm talking about. Is

3130
02:30:51,760 --> 02:30:53,039
Speaker 3: is there a George with.

3131
02:30:55,320 --> 02:30:55,600
Speaker 4: Question?

3132
02:30:55,840 --> 02:31:00,560
Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah, Well for me, a team that probably not

3133
02:31:00,680 --> 02:31:02,080
Speaker 7: going to get it. I don't know if they're going

3134
02:31:02,160 --> 02:31:04,440
Speaker 7: to get a top four seed, but I have them

3135
02:31:04,480 --> 02:31:07,440
Speaker 7: in my top ten. Of my rankings is Clemson. I

3136
02:31:07,640 --> 02:31:10,200
Speaker 7: like Clemson. I think this is the best Clemson team

3137
02:31:10,200 --> 02:31:13,360
Speaker 7: they've had for quite a while. And then again, they

3138
02:31:13,400 --> 02:31:16,080
Speaker 7: actually did beat an amazing dude team. I think they've

3139
02:31:16,080 --> 02:31:19,680
Speaker 7: only lost five games, and I you know, I think

3140
02:31:19,720 --> 02:31:22,280
Speaker 7: that they're very, very good. I do. I like Clemson.

3141
02:31:22,720 --> 02:31:25,840
Speaker 7: I'm interested to see what Seeds think John's are going

3142
02:31:25,879 --> 02:31:27,560
Speaker 7: to get because Saint John's is doing it a very

3143
02:31:27,640 --> 02:31:31,800
Speaker 7: interesting way, winning with defense, doesn't shoot the three at all,

3144
02:31:32,320 --> 02:31:35,039
Speaker 7: but they never lose. They basically won. They've a little

3145
02:31:35,240 --> 02:31:37,320
Speaker 7: I think four games all year, and I believe all

3146
02:31:37,360 --> 02:31:38,600
Speaker 7: four by two points or less.

3147
02:31:43,160 --> 02:31:43,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

3148
02:31:43,440 --> 02:31:47,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's interesting in this landscape the win guys.

3149
02:31:47,360 --> 02:31:50,360
Speaker 7: The way they're winning right without shooting for it is

3150
02:31:51,240 --> 02:31:54,480
Speaker 7: again that's a very challenging way to win. But they

3151
02:31:54,600 --> 02:31:56,600
Speaker 7: have the best coach. I'm rooting for them just as

3152
02:31:56,640 --> 02:32:00,800
Speaker 7: a personal for I love Patino, so which is interesting

3153
02:32:00,879 --> 02:32:03,080
Speaker 7: how they do when they get because the base in

3154
02:32:03,120 --> 02:32:05,360
Speaker 7: the Big East competition thin He's not one of the

3155
02:32:05,400 --> 02:32:08,080
Speaker 7: better conferences this year. I'm curious when they face some

3156
02:32:08,160 --> 02:32:11,400
Speaker 7: other teams, how they're going to play having to win

3157
02:32:11,600 --> 02:32:14,280
Speaker 7: like that to do it?

3158
02:32:14,680 --> 02:32:16,000
Speaker 3: Who you got today?

3159
02:32:16,320 --> 02:32:17,360
Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

3160
02:32:18,400 --> 02:32:20,880
Speaker 7: Well? Again, as I said, like my favorite two games

3161
02:32:21,000 --> 02:32:25,119
Speaker 7: with four today? Probably I said, I do like laying

3162
02:32:25,240 --> 02:32:27,960
Speaker 7: nine points. I do like Florida at Homing and C

3163
02:32:28,120 --> 02:32:31,480
Speaker 7: and M. And I do like Texas I get in

3164
02:32:31,560 --> 02:32:33,520
Speaker 7: an all in games. I said, those are probably my

3165
02:32:33,600 --> 02:32:37,360
Speaker 7: two favorite debts in terms of college, in terms of

3166
02:32:37,400 --> 02:32:42,600
Speaker 7: the NBA, I go, I like Houston laying five points

3167
02:32:43,000 --> 02:32:46,000
Speaker 7: at home. I absolutely four and a half points at home.

3168
02:32:46,200 --> 02:32:48,640
Speaker 7: I absolutely think they get it done in Sacramento. A

3169
02:32:48,720 --> 02:32:51,280
Speaker 7: couple of props, guys. This probably I've done, like probably

3170
02:32:51,400 --> 02:32:55,200
Speaker 7: won't joke twenty times this year, probably about sixteen to four.

3171
02:32:55,680 --> 02:32:58,200
Speaker 7: Damian Little over three and a half three downs, he

3172
02:32:58,280 --> 02:33:01,160
Speaker 7: had just four point six. He goes over this seventy

3173
02:33:01,160 --> 02:33:03,440
Speaker 7: four percent of the time every single time to make

3174
02:33:03,440 --> 02:33:05,160
Speaker 7: it three and a half. I don't argue it, I

3175
02:33:05,320 --> 02:33:09,240
Speaker 7: just do it. He get Murray over five and a

3176
02:33:09,280 --> 02:33:13,400
Speaker 7: half rebounds getting juice. He averaged one more rebound. This

3177
02:33:14,000 --> 02:33:17,680
Speaker 7: he always gets the worst case of seemingly five. I

3178
02:33:17,800 --> 02:33:19,760
Speaker 7: think he gets at least six. And the guy's doning it.

3179
02:33:19,959 --> 02:33:23,320
Speaker 7: He's talking about sixty three percent of time uh, and

3180
02:33:24,400 --> 02:33:26,600
Speaker 7: Zach Lavine, I took under four and a half. A

3181
02:33:26,640 --> 02:33:28,440
Speaker 7: sis to me, this is a s phone cold numbers

3182
02:33:28,440 --> 02:33:30,760
Speaker 7: should have been three and a half. I think there's

3183
02:33:30,840 --> 02:33:33,000
Speaker 7: value taking exactly been under four and a half a sist.

3184
02:33:34,320 --> 02:33:37,960
Speaker 2: All right, Brain, great work is always my man. I

3185
02:33:38,240 --> 02:33:40,360
Speaker 2: have a great rest of your trip with your son.

3186
02:33:40,520 --> 02:33:40,640
Speaker 7: Man.

3187
02:33:40,760 --> 02:33:41,240
Speaker 3: Good stuff.

3188
02:33:41,600 --> 02:33:43,280
Speaker 7: I appreciate both of you guys are the best. Pretty

3189
02:33:43,280 --> 02:33:43,800
Speaker 7: good there is.

3190
02:33:44,200 --> 02:33:44,440
Speaker 4: Brain.

3191
02:33:45,120 --> 02:33:47,360
Speaker 2: All right, we'll come back, figured guy. We're wrapping up

3192
02:33:47,440 --> 02:33:56,320
Speaker 2: right here. Fellas on Fox Fellas, Ah, this means it's

3193
02:33:56,360 --> 02:34:03,240
Speaker 2: the end. Thanks to Bring and Mighty. Mark did a

3194
02:34:03,280 --> 02:34:06,960
Speaker 2: great job producing the show. Facts at Figgy and for

3195
02:34:07,160 --> 02:34:10,880
Speaker 2: Fitzy Figgy it's man, it goes by way too fast.

3196
02:34:11,959 --> 02:34:14,160
Speaker 3: Love hang with you, man, it really does.

3197
02:34:14,680 --> 02:34:16,879
Speaker 5: It's been a pleasure of mine so to come back

3198
02:34:16,920 --> 02:34:18,200
Speaker 5: and be able to work with you guys, it's like

3199
02:34:18,280 --> 02:34:18,840
Speaker 5: old times.

3200
02:34:19,520 --> 02:34:20,800
Speaker 4: It's always.

3201
02:34:20,800 --> 02:34:23,280
Speaker 5: One of the highlights of my week was being able

3202
02:34:23,320 --> 02:34:26,160
Speaker 5: to work on the Fellas As. We just come in

3203
02:34:26,280 --> 02:34:28,480
Speaker 5: and just chop it up and talk sports. It just uh,

3204
02:34:28,879 --> 02:34:30,080
Speaker 5: it's it's always a fun time.

3205
02:34:30,240 --> 02:34:33,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, well one of my highlights is having you

3206
02:34:33,160 --> 02:34:33,640
Speaker 3: on the show.

3207
02:34:34,959 --> 02:34:35,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate it.

3208
02:34:36,040 --> 02:34:36,920
Speaker 3: With my local show.

3209
02:34:37,080 --> 02:34:38,560
Speaker 4: Oh that was great, that was amazing.

3210
02:34:38,760 --> 02:34:41,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, Anthony had you on his local show the week

3211
02:34:41,360 --> 02:34:43,199
Speaker 5: before the Rams played the Eagles.

3212
02:34:44,080 --> 02:34:46,520
Speaker 4: Uh, and that was a lot of fun. That was cool.

3213
02:34:46,840 --> 02:34:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great.

3214
02:34:47,920 --> 02:34:49,840
Speaker 2: It was like, la, I had to get to my

3215
02:34:49,879 --> 02:34:51,960
Speaker 2: boy when a baseball comes, I'll have your own for

3216
02:34:52,000 --> 02:34:52,880
Speaker 2: Philly's Dodgers too.

3217
02:34:53,040 --> 02:34:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, would be fun. That's do it. Hey, we lost

3218
02:34:56,320 --> 02:34:58,520
Speaker 3: a horrible story too surrounding it.

3219
02:34:58,640 --> 02:35:02,440
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Genackman and his wife and apparently he

3220
02:35:02,600 --> 02:35:06,600
Speaker 2: was by his pacemaker. He was gone for nine days,

3221
02:35:06,920 --> 02:35:10,200
Speaker 2: for over a week before they found him. It is

3222
02:35:10,320 --> 02:35:15,480
Speaker 2: an awful story, right, horrible story. But of course we

3223
02:35:15,640 --> 02:35:21,440
Speaker 2: celebrate his career. And it's March and the greatest sports

3224
02:35:21,560 --> 02:35:25,240
Speaker 2: movie ever, you know. And I take a lot of

3225
02:35:25,320 --> 02:35:28,960
Speaker 2: heat because I come from the land of Rocky and

3226
02:35:29,320 --> 02:35:34,279
Speaker 2: and and I love my Rocky, but Rockies too, Hoosi's

3227
02:35:34,400 --> 02:35:34,720
Speaker 2: is won.

3228
02:35:35,160 --> 02:35:35,360
Speaker 1: Wow.

3229
02:35:35,440 --> 02:35:37,280
Speaker 5: I'm surprised that you have that take, to be honest

3230
02:35:37,320 --> 02:35:41,480
Speaker 5: with you, and Hoosis is great, but because of Rocky

3231
02:35:41,640 --> 02:35:43,760
Speaker 5: and the great love you have for the city of Philadelphia.

3232
02:35:44,200 --> 02:35:45,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, surprised by that.

3233
02:35:45,560 --> 02:35:49,640
Speaker 2: Well, if I'm just talking about you know, cinematic you know,

3234
02:35:49,760 --> 02:35:53,440
Speaker 2: the whole realism, and it's just a it's a great story, right,

3235
02:35:53,640 --> 02:35:57,320
Speaker 2: it's just a beautiful city. Here's this coach, Gene Hackman,

3236
02:35:57,400 --> 02:35:59,360
Speaker 2: he's such a great act was such a great actor.

3237
02:35:59,800 --> 02:36:03,720
Speaker 2: And here is this coach who was a big time

3238
02:36:04,440 --> 02:36:10,000
Speaker 2: has troubles right stool, streaks of violence, and he winds

3239
02:36:10,080 --> 02:36:13,720
Speaker 2: up in his farming town and Vickory, Indiana, and it

3240
02:36:13,879 --> 02:36:15,840
Speaker 2: dives into Indiana basketball.

3241
02:36:16,240 --> 02:36:17,640
Speaker 3: I mean, it's great story.

3242
02:36:18,040 --> 02:36:23,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it's awesome, and he's brilliant as coach Norman Dale.

3243
02:36:25,720 --> 02:36:27,480
Speaker 4: It's uh and look, he's a great actor.

3244
02:36:27,560 --> 02:36:29,520
Speaker 5: But I mean it's easily one of the better roles

3245
02:36:29,560 --> 02:36:31,520
Speaker 5: that he played, which is saying a lot because he

3246
02:36:31,640 --> 02:36:34,440
Speaker 5: had a lot of good roles throughout his long career.

3247
02:36:35,280 --> 02:36:35,840
Speaker 4: And I was one.

3248
02:36:35,920 --> 02:36:37,560
Speaker 5: I was late to the game when it came to Hoosiers.

3249
02:36:37,600 --> 02:36:39,720
Speaker 5: You know, you're a much bigger movie guy than I am.

3250
02:36:39,760 --> 02:36:42,360
Speaker 5: We've talked about that at nauseum. So I didn't even

3251
02:36:42,400 --> 02:36:45,240
Speaker 5: see Hoosis for the first time until like fifteen years

3252
02:36:45,280 --> 02:36:48,039
Speaker 5: ago or something like that. And most of the time

3253
02:36:48,120 --> 02:36:51,440
Speaker 5: in situations like that, certain movies don't hold up or he'say, like, ah,

3254
02:36:51,520 --> 02:36:54,200
Speaker 5: this is overrated. It is really not that good. It's

3255
02:36:54,240 --> 02:36:56,959
Speaker 5: just good as advertised. It's as good as everybody explains

3256
02:36:57,000 --> 02:37:00,720
Speaker 5: that it is. It really tells you about the how

3257
02:37:00,920 --> 02:37:03,520
Speaker 5: certain movies hold up and stand the test of time.

3258
02:37:03,920 --> 02:37:06,480
Speaker 4: Great performance is great stories, and that's exactly what that is.

3259
02:37:07,920 --> 02:37:08,640
Speaker 4: It truly is.

3260
02:37:09,280 --> 02:37:12,119
Speaker 2: So as a little fun, I did a I did

3261
02:37:12,200 --> 02:37:15,800
Speaker 2: a the top ten fictional coaches.

3262
02:37:16,120 --> 02:37:19,120
Speaker 3: Oh okay, all right, so let me run this by

3263
02:37:19,240 --> 02:37:21,280
Speaker 3: you and see what you think. All right?

3264
02:37:22,360 --> 02:37:25,360
Speaker 2: So I had number one. These are just my favorite too.

3265
02:37:25,959 --> 02:37:30,680
Speaker 2: Number one is Norman Dale. Number two is Pete Bell.

3266
02:37:31,200 --> 02:37:34,199
Speaker 2: Pete Bell from Blue Chips Nick Nolty.

3267
02:37:34,040 --> 02:37:36,400
Speaker 4: Another great movie. Yes all right, like.

3268
02:37:36,800 --> 02:37:40,480
Speaker 2: The realism of that, the way he kicks the basketball

3269
02:37:40,600 --> 02:37:43,720
Speaker 2: like he felt like he fell like a coach.

3270
02:37:45,000 --> 02:37:47,800
Speaker 3: Number two he did like he fell at coach. He

3271
02:37:47,920 --> 02:37:51,439
Speaker 3: was awesome. Number three is Herman Boone.

3272
02:37:51,800 --> 02:37:53,040
Speaker 4: Who coach Bone.

3273
02:37:53,160 --> 02:37:54,440
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, come on.

3274
02:37:55,600 --> 02:37:56,680
Speaker 4: One was based on a true story.

3275
02:37:56,760 --> 02:38:00,000
Speaker 3: But yeah right, I mean, yes, yes, true.

3276
02:38:00,040 --> 02:38:03,600
Speaker 5: Remember the Titans for those who gus Yes, uh And

3277
02:38:03,720 --> 02:38:06,520
Speaker 5: if you put both of them together, we're going to

3278
02:38:06,600 --> 02:38:07,640
Speaker 5: blitz all night.

3279
02:38:08,440 --> 02:38:12,560
Speaker 2: Then they then they take the top spot. Number four

3280
02:38:12,840 --> 02:38:17,200
Speaker 2: I go Ted Lasso, I mean I love Ted Lasto.

3281
02:38:17,320 --> 02:38:19,920
Speaker 2: I be honest, me it's a great show. He and

3282
02:38:20,040 --> 02:38:25,800
Speaker 2: he changed the sentiment. I think he captured the sentiment

3283
02:38:25,879 --> 02:38:30,640
Speaker 2: of today and the e Q, the emotional intelligence part

3284
02:38:30,720 --> 02:38:35,720
Speaker 2: of it, which was beautiful. Right then I roll with

3285
02:38:35,920 --> 02:38:40,680
Speaker 2: my man Sam Winters, who was James conn in the program.

3286
02:38:45,800 --> 02:38:48,039
Speaker 4: Do you see the program? I know of the program.

3287
02:38:48,840 --> 02:38:51,800
Speaker 2: You gotta see the program, you gotta do it. I

3288
02:38:51,879 --> 02:38:58,400
Speaker 2: got another old one, Ken Reeves. He is the White Shadow.

3289
02:38:59,480 --> 02:38:59,640
Speaker 2: You know.

3290
02:38:59,760 --> 02:39:02,560
Speaker 4: You've talked about the White Shadow, you know. And that's

3291
02:39:02,600 --> 02:39:03,600
Speaker 4: a show that I need to watch.

3292
02:39:05,959 --> 02:39:09,959
Speaker 2: I got Tony Diamonto from Any Given Sunday yep, Classic

3293
02:39:10,520 --> 02:39:16,840
Speaker 2: Lou Brown from Major League Mars, Buttermaker from Bad News Bands,

3294
02:39:17,480 --> 02:39:20,040
Speaker 2: What Coach? What you love to have with a with

3295
02:39:20,160 --> 02:39:25,440
Speaker 2: a cannon, beer and a cigarette? Right? Absolutely at number ten, Mickey,

3296
02:39:25,879 --> 02:39:28,560
Speaker 2: all right, remember with weaken legs.

3297
02:39:28,800 --> 02:39:29,480
Speaker 3: Love you guys,