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Speaker 1: want to take you back to a program interview that
Speaker 1: we had on February ninth. It was with Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: right after the Super Bowl, and we were trying to
Speaker 1: get Russell on prior to the Super Bowl. He couldn't
Speaker 1: do it because of time constraints his schedule, and he
Speaker 1: said after the super Bowl he would join us. He
Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl, he got the Walter Peyton
Speaker 1: Man of the Year award, and I watched him during
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl where he's there with the commissioner and
Speaker 1: his wife Sierra, and he looked miserable, and they showed
Speaker 1: him on the screen. He looked miserable, and I thought,
Speaker 1: I wonder why he's not happy. And then I started
Speaker 1: to think, well, he's probably watching Tom Brady at forty
Speaker 1: three go to a new team and he helped orchestrate
Speaker 1: the offense or had input with the offense. He's playing
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl against the future at that position,
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, and he's involved in another Super Bowl. And
Speaker 1: here's Russ watching in person. It's not like, hey, season's over,
Speaker 1: I'm out of here, or hey, the super Bowl's on.
Speaker 1: I might watch it, but I'm not on camera. He's
Speaker 1: watching these two quarterbacks, and he's got to be thinking,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of caught in the middle. You know, Tom
Speaker 1: is not leaving. He's winning a super Bowl. Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: is only twenty five, So where am I? I'm thirty two.
Speaker 1: I haven't been back to a title game in a
Speaker 1: long time, twenty fourteen, and I started to wonder about that,
Speaker 1: and that led me into some of the questions. I
Speaker 1: thought that I would be able to ask for Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson when he came on the show, because Russ has
Speaker 1: been on many, many times and he's really good at
Speaker 1: not saying anything. We've interviewed him back in Wisconsin when
Speaker 1: he was there his senior year, and I thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe I can kind of nudge him a little bit
Speaker 1: that he's going to end up being sacked more times
Speaker 1: than anybody in the history of the sport. And I thought,
Speaker 1: you know what, with Brady being able to bring in
Speaker 1: who he wants to, I wonder if for Us has
Speaker 1: any input in the front office. I thought, all right, well,
Speaker 1: let's see where he allows me to go, because that
Speaker 1: happens in an interview. Sometimes it's checkers, sometimes it's chess.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they'll allow you to play, sometimes they won't. And Russ,
Speaker 1: it felt like, was allowing me to at least open
Speaker 1: the door. And then what we got after that is
Speaker 1: what made the news. So let me start with what
Speaker 1: I said to Russ about are you involved in personnel
Speaker 1: decisions with the Seahawks? Not? Not as much? I don't
Speaker 1: you know. I think that you know, do you want
Speaker 1: to be involved? Rus? Yeah, I think it helps. I
Speaker 1: think it helps to be involved more. But I think
Speaker 1: that's that dialogue should happen more often. And I think, okay,
Speaker 1: now I'm after hearing that. Go back to the report,
Speaker 1: the article in the Athletic where Russ, before they were
Speaker 1: going to play the Cardinals, talking to the coaching staff,
Speaker 1: wanted to have input on what was going to go
Speaker 1: on the offensive game plan. They didn't want to listen,
Speaker 1: and he got up and walked out of the meeting,
Speaker 1: slamming the door. Then I asked Russ, does he think
Speaker 1: the Seahawks have received received trade calls for him? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely believe they've gotten calls, for sure. I didn't
Speaker 1: think that, you know, anythink anytime you're you know, you
Speaker 1: know a player that you know, tries to produce every
Speaker 1: week and has done it for you know, consistently, I
Speaker 1: think people are going to call, for sure, And I
Speaker 1: think it's part of the process. Yeah, but you're a
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, you're a Hall of Fame quarterback. You're not available,
Speaker 1: are you? Well, I'm not sure if I'm available or not.
Speaker 1: That's at the Seahawks question. But I think also, I
Speaker 1: think more anything else is um. You know. I think
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you want to win, you know,
Speaker 1: I played this game every day to wake up to win.
Speaker 1: He played this game, you know, to be the best
Speaker 1: in the world. You know, I you know what I hate.
Speaker 1: I hate sitting there watching other guys played again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that goes back to him being at the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl looking miserable, because why shouldn't I have input? We
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl, went to another one. I'm a
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Why can't they let Russ cook? And
Speaker 1: I think he was looking at these other quarterbacks who
Speaker 1: have input, and he's looking at Brady and thinking he
Speaker 1: went to Tampa and was able to do what he
Speaker 1: wanted to do, bring in players that he wanted to
Speaker 1: bring in. And I can't even be involved in any
Speaker 1: decision making with the offense here in Seattle. But when
Speaker 1: the Seahawks blew out the Broncos in twenty fourteen in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, they looked like they were poised to
Speaker 1: go back to the Super Bowl a few times all
Speaker 1: time defense, he had a quarterback on a rookie contract.
Speaker 1: But seven years later, they look like they're really far
Speaker 1: from going back to his Super Bowl, even though they
Speaker 1: won the division. I think they won twelve games last year.
Speaker 1: But multiple reports have emerged that Russ is upset with
Speaker 1: the team and a story on the Athletic website added
Speaker 1: fuel to the fire yesterday, and then Russ's agent came
Speaker 1: out and said that, hey, he wants to stay in Seattle,
Speaker 1: but if Seattle wants to trade him, here's four teams
Speaker 1: he would like to go to. Like to me that
Speaker 1: you know that that's not vague, that's not a veil,
Speaker 1: you know, threat he wants out. That doesn't mean he'll
Speaker 1: get out, but he to me when. And the analogy
Speaker 1: all uses if you go home to your wife and
Speaker 1: you say, look, if you decide to leave me, these
Speaker 1: are four women that i'd like to date. But but
Speaker 1: I want you to stay. But these are four women
Speaker 1: i'd i'd like to date just in case you leave.
Speaker 1: This can't This won't last. Now. I didn't think Russ
Speaker 1: would be there after next year. Now I'm starting to
Speaker 1: wonder if he's going to be there after this offseason.
Speaker 1: Gave you four teams, gave you the Cowboys, gave you
Speaker 1: the Bears, gave you the Saints. Seems like he's had
Speaker 1: this thought out, got the Raiders in there. This wasn't
Speaker 1: one of those where the agent goes, hey, oh you know,
Speaker 1: does he have a list. Oh, it's too early in
Speaker 1: the process. I mean, he wants to stay in Seattle.
Speaker 1: It's one of those Well, he wants to stay in Seattle,
Speaker 1: but here's four teams that he'd like to go to.
Speaker 1: That sounds like you've given this some thought internally, but
Speaker 1: the legion of boom that team is long gone. Seahawks
Speaker 1: still trying to redefine themselves. They haven't recovered from the
Speaker 1: inner reception by Malcolm Butler. Can you rebuild a relationship
Speaker 1: with a franchise quarterback? Do you continue to take calls?
Speaker 1: How about this? Do the Seahawks start making calls because
Speaker 1: it feels like we're open for business here. If I'm Seattle,
Speaker 1: I'm open for business. Russ is not going to cost
Speaker 1: you an awful lot as far as his salary goes,
Speaker 1: and he still plays at a very high level. But
Speaker 1: he's got four teams. This has been in the process.
Speaker 1: This has been a process. This has been in the works.
Speaker 1: This didn't go Hey after the Dan Patrick interview, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of said some things, and then we had
Speaker 1: a source say, hey, just so you know, let me
Speaker 1: give you some background information. This relationship is not sustainable,
Speaker 1: Like that was the hammer. Then I went, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is real, has been going on for some time, and
Speaker 1: the fact that there are teams that have called I
Speaker 1: don't know if Seattle is now calling teams back. When
Speaker 1: you name the teams, you're ready to go. That's not
Speaker 1: a hint, that's not sources close to or rumors or
Speaker 1: that's fact. Of course, when I saw the Bears, I go, well,
Speaker 1: this can't be true. The Bears are on that list
Speaker 1: article yeah, and he wants to go to these teams
Speaker 1: and the Bears, and I went, well, if you didn't
Speaker 1: have the Bears on there, then maybe there'd be a
Speaker 1: little more validity to it. Makes me wonder about Russ
Speaker 1: yes time. Now, if you're Dak Prescott or Derek Carr
Speaker 1: one of these teams, what's going through your blind while
Speaker 1: the Seehall campus calling out teams that you're currently the
Speaker 1: starting quintament for you. Well, let's start out with you're
Speaker 1: not as good as him, So you know, if you've
Speaker 1: put yourself in a position where there's doubt about you
Speaker 1: moving on, then that's up up. You know, that's on you.
Speaker 1: And then I wonder about the Saints because the longer
Speaker 1: this goes on, I just wonder if Drew Brees is going,
Speaker 1: we weren't that far away from beating the Buccaneers like
Speaker 1: we could have been in the Super Bowl. Do you
Speaker 1: want to take another another spin at it? And then
Speaker 1: if you're Sean Payton and you hear this news about
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and he says this, you know the Saints,
Speaker 1: and you're probably going, oh, Drew, please retire. Oh yeah, see,
Speaker 1: Sean Payton's like a rebuilding next year. Man, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a tough one to Drew. You're better sitting this
Speaker 1: one out. Yeah, yeah, Drew, You're hey, good luck and
Speaker 1: te Hey, you know why I bought you a tie?
Speaker 1: I bought you a tie for your TV debut on
Speaker 1: a football night in America, The Raiders Cowboys. I mean,
Speaker 1: is this is on? This is real, This is right
Speaker 1: front and center. It feels like it's further along than
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson being traded, which is crazy when you think
Speaker 1: about what's happened so far this offseason. And Adam Schefter
Speaker 1: gave his heads up. He said, you know, get ready,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a whole lot of musical chairs with quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: and not everybody gets a chair to sit down on
Speaker 1: when the music stops. But Matthew Stafford. The Lions did
Speaker 1: the right way, even though I didn't understand it at
Speaker 1: the time. I thought they would lose leverage. They basically said, hey,
Speaker 1: who wants Matthew Stafford? And the Rams ponied up Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: Who wants Carson Wentz? Well, nobody wanted Carson Wentz except
Speaker 1: for the Colts, and they got him. Deshaun Watson. Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson doesn't want to play with the Texans. The Texans
Speaker 1: don't want to trade him. Deshaun Watson has a conversation
Speaker 1: with the new head coach and tells him he doesn't
Speaker 1: want to stay with the Texans. But they're not open
Speaker 1: for business yet. We didn't know Seattle was open for business,
Speaker 1: or Russell Wilson wants them open for business. But it
Speaker 1: certainly feels like that. And if I'm the Seahawks, I
Speaker 1: entertain it. I entertained trade tunks. He opened the door. Now,
Speaker 1: if Seattle did it, then they might look bad. Russ
Speaker 1: and his agent have opened the door. And if I'm
Speaker 1: gonna if I know that there's four teams and Russ
Speaker 1: has a no trade clause, I'm calling those four teams. Hey,
Speaker 1: you guys, tell us what you would pony up if
Speaker 1: you would pony up for Russell Wilson. Like you're the Raiders, Hey,
Speaker 1: we'll give you Derek Carr and Dallas Cowboys. That's interesting.
Speaker 1: If I'm Seattle, do I take Dak Prescott who's a
Speaker 1: whole lot younger than Russ, but he's going to be
Speaker 1: more expensive? So I got a hurt quarterback who's not
Speaker 1: under contract. Chicago Bears is a no brainer. If I'm
Speaker 1: the Bears, I'm like, yeah, we can't get to Shaun
Speaker 1: Watson Russell Wilson. Absolutely, And then the Saints. If I'm
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, yes absolutely, I say, you know, hey, Taysom Hill,
Speaker 1: you're gonna still be our five tool player. Jamis, we'll
Speaker 1: sign you as a backup, and Drew good Luck and
Speaker 1: TV and let's bring in Russell Wilson. I mean, I'd
Speaker 1: be on the phone. Let's say, let's push it. Let's
Speaker 1: see what we have here, because is Seattle going to change?
Speaker 1: Are they gonna let Russell Wilson have input? Now? How
Speaker 1: much input does he have? The day and age of
Speaker 1: quarterback empowerment is upon us, but also the team's having
Speaker 1: paid and the player having patience that's over or at
Speaker 1: least redefined. I mean, Miami might not even be patient
Speaker 1: with Tuah. Right, go back to Josh Rosen with Arizona, Josh,
Speaker 1: you're our quarterback for now. Oh, we got the number
Speaker 1: one pick. Thanks, Josh. We're done with you after a year.
Speaker 1: These teams move on. It's so quick. You've got two years,
Speaker 1: maybe three at the most, and then you go, you
Speaker 1: know or should know what you have in that position.
Speaker 1: And if I'm Seattle, Russ is going to be thirty three.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, I'm in the market for what it kind
Speaker 1: of offered you have. If I'm the Raiders, I'm certainly
Speaker 1: interested in Russ. If I'm the Cowboys, I'm interested. Gives
Speaker 1: you leverage with Dak Prescott, Saints, absolutely, the Bears, no brainer.
Speaker 1: But the fact that Russ's agent had four teams that
Speaker 1: he told Tadam Schefter, there's been there's been some conversations,
Speaker 1: let's put it that way, probably since the season was
Speaker 1: going on about this, and I'm sure Russ says to
Speaker 1: his agent, Ay, I'm trying to have some input here.
Speaker 1: They won't let me have any input. And then you
Speaker 1: start to think, do I want to stay here? I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get sacked an average of what forty eight times
Speaker 1: a season? Dallas's offensive line is nowhere near what it
Speaker 1: was a couple of years ago, but it's better than Seattle's.
Speaker 1: But if you're some of these other teams, like if
Speaker 1: you're the Rams or the Colts, and then you're gonna
Speaker 1: go God, if we just waited, just waited a little
Speaker 1: bit there. All righty mcclub, you got a pull question.
Speaker 1: We'll take a break. We'll talk to you and Rappaport
Speaker 1: about you know just how hot this topic is with
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Yeah, we already put it up on the website. Okay,
Speaker 1: where will Russell Wilson play next year? We list the
Speaker 1: Seahawks and the four teams, the Raiders and Bears, the
Speaker 1: Saints and the Cowboy. But let me ask you the
Speaker 1: flip side, Well, who are the Seahawks going to start
Speaker 1: a quarterback? If they trade Russell Wilson? Well, if I
Speaker 1: trade him to the Raiders, I get Derek Carr. So, okay, Cars,
Speaker 1: that's the one where you could do a trade for her.
Speaker 1: This is a team that I was told two days
Speaker 1: ago they seriously we're considering Josh Allen when he in
Speaker 1: the drafty, they had a private workout with him. They
Speaker 1: were enamored with johns Shallen. You know this, it's not
Speaker 1: far fetched to think that Seattle has been preparing for
Speaker 1: this moment as well, or at least factoring this in.
Speaker 1: And is the Russell Wilson that we're seeing now? How
Speaker 1: much different is he than the Russell Wilson we saw
Speaker 1: three years ago, five years ago, seven years ago. And
Speaker 1: this is when you have his best market value. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: it's almost like the whole let Russ cook things should
Speaker 1: have been a red flag in a weird way because
Speaker 1: if he'd been there for that long and been that
Speaker 1: successful and they still won't let the dude play, it
Speaker 1: kind of says now looking back, it says a lot
Speaker 1: more about how the Seahawks really felt about him first
Speaker 1: half of the season. He was the MVP. Yeah then,
Speaker 1: and this is a team like they won their division,
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Speaker 1: Let me start with our poll question. Russell Wilson will
Speaker 1: be the quarterback of the Seahawks, Raiders, Cowboys, Bears, Saints
Speaker 1: at the start of next season. I would say probably
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. I mean it's not impossible. I think one
Speaker 1: thing we've learned in the NFL this year is that
Speaker 1: quarterback trades, massive quarterback trades, the kind that we used
Speaker 1: to scoff at years ago, they can happen. I mean
Speaker 1: it's slowly becoming a little more like the NBA, where
Speaker 1: people aren't afraid to take on dead money, they're not
Speaker 1: afraid to make a splash, they're not afraid to take
Speaker 1: a risk. I mean, these things have now happened, so
Speaker 1: at least this conversation that we're having now is not fake,
Speaker 1: whereas like four years ago, I would have been like commanding.
Speaker 1: But my guests is the Seahawks for a couple of reasons.
Speaker 1: One forty million dollar cap hit for a team that
Speaker 1: is contending every single year is a lot. And then
Speaker 1: let's just play that. Let's say it's the Raiders and
Speaker 1: Derek Carr's in the trade, So then it's forty million
Speaker 1: dollars for Russell Wilson in a dead cap hit, twenty
Speaker 1: five million dollars for Derek Carr. That's sixty five million
Speaker 1: dollars allocated to the quarterback position. That's a lot. The
Speaker 1: other thing is, Pete Carroll is seventy years old. He
Speaker 1: does not want to rebuild. So if you're trading Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: you told me you wanted to start the dynasty again
Speaker 1: and rebuild, I'd say cool. That actually would make some sense.
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll doesn't want to do that. A trade doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense for any party. How did we get to
Speaker 1: this point with Seattle? Well, I think it was slowly building,
Speaker 1: probably from like week eight or nine, when Seattle's offense
Speaker 1: went from letting Russ cook to whatever it was we
Speaker 1: saw at the end of the year. You know, he
Speaker 1: started turning it over. They kind of started focusing on
Speaker 1: running the ball to stop him from turning it over
Speaker 1: and go back to the brand of football that had
Speaker 1: made Seattle famous. And I don't think Russell Wilson liked that.
Speaker 1: He wanted to cook. He wanted to get the MVP boats.
Speaker 1: He wanted to be the kind of superstar quarterback that
Speaker 1: he is and that we see other quarterback like Aaron
Speaker 1: rodd You know, the Packers run the ball with Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: but Rogers is the start. The running game is not
Speaker 1: the start, right, And that was a philosophical difference, and
Speaker 1: the fact that they had to play the season out
Speaker 1: and it didn't kind of get resolved during the season
Speaker 1: only led to this little, you know, kind of mini
Speaker 1: war of words or whatever you'd call it. Now he
Speaker 1: was involved in the picking of the offensive coordinator. That
Speaker 1: was good but they still got a lot of work
Speaker 1: to do to kind of get everyone on the same
Speaker 1: page here. But when he came on the show a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, You've been around Russ. He doesn't
Speaker 1: open the door and really answer things honestly, and you know,
Speaker 1: everything is gohawks and he wants to tell you all
Speaker 1: the things that you he thinks you want to hear.
Speaker 1: He opened the door for me, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was off of going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: He looked miserable. He's watching Mahomes and Brady and going,
Speaker 1: why am I not playing in another super Bowl? But
Speaker 1: do you think that it was orchestrated on his part
Speaker 1: to allow me to ask those questions? I wondered about that.
Speaker 1: It was an eye opening interview. I will say that,
Speaker 1: like when I think I first saw the clips on
Speaker 1: Twitter and I'm like, what is happening here? I had
Speaker 1: to go and kind of click, which you know obviously
Speaker 1: for you, like you're doing an interview and someone has
Speaker 1: to go from Twitter to be Art, where can I
Speaker 1: find this? That's a great interview. I thought the whole
Speaker 1: thing was eye opening. I started to get a sense
Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl that something was happening, Like I
Speaker 1: got wind of teams calling the Seahawks about Russell, and
Speaker 1: I reported it on our pregame shirt show before the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And usually you report something like that and
Speaker 1: you get a lot of pushback. Don't say anything, don't
Speaker 1: stir it up. We don't need that out there. I
Speaker 1: didn't quite get that. It was more like, well, it's true,
Speaker 1: so you happen to find out about it, like okay,
Speaker 1: and that was interesting to me. And then he kind
Speaker 1: of goes on this media tour for Man of the Year,
Speaker 1: goes on your show and a couple others, and he
Speaker 1: doesn't shy away from the fact that he's frustrated. He
Speaker 1: doesn't like to get hit, which I don't either. I
Speaker 1: get it. I think it's time where he's like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm taking ownership of myself, my career, my team.
Speaker 1: I want this to get better. And in a way,
Speaker 1: I don't blame them, but it just makes it a
Speaker 1: little messy when that happens. But if you're Seattle, do
Speaker 1: you reach out to the Bears, the Cowboys, the Saints,
Speaker 1: the Raiders? The doors open, Yeah, the doors open, But
Speaker 1: I mean the reality is you have Russell Wilson. If
Speaker 1: you want to trade him, you could trade him in
Speaker 1: like two seconds, right, Like everybody would want Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: That's not the problem. Trading him is easy. You could
Speaker 1: get three ones, two ones and a great player and
Speaker 1: another good player like you could get a great package
Speaker 1: for rus Wilson. That's easy. John Schneider is the master.
Speaker 1: You could do it in two phone calls. The problem
Speaker 1: is who do you replace themle And I think that's
Speaker 1: the problem for everyone. Like let's say, like the Houston Texas.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're trading Deshaun Watson, but let's say
Speaker 1: they do. Fine, you get a lot of draft picks.
Speaker 1: Who is actually your quarterback for Seattle? You know, you
Speaker 1: trade Russell Wilson unless you're taking someone of his caliber
Speaker 1: and putting him in there, you are automatically rebuilding. So
Speaker 1: how does that actually benefit the Seahawks. That's the real question.
Speaker 1: And I can't help but think of Jerry Jones today
Speaker 1: or yesterday when he saw this list that came out.
Speaker 1: And you know, Jerry loves shiny new objects, and it
Speaker 1: gives him a little leverage. I guess with Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: whether he uses that or not. Like the feasibility of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys kicking the tires on Russell Wilson is what
Speaker 1: not very feasible to me. The Cowboys situation is very
Speaker 1: very easy. Signed Dak Prescott. He is one of the
Speaker 1: best young quarterbacks in the NFL. He actually got more
Speaker 1: valuable when he hurt his ankle because the team was
Speaker 1: not good. Like I see, it's crazy to me. It's
Speaker 1: always been crazy to me when I saw people argue
Speaker 1: that Carson Wentz was better than Dak Prescott, It's like,
Speaker 1: it's almost like what am I watching right? Like to me,
Speaker 1: it was obvious that Dak was where he was and
Speaker 1: Carson was going the way, which I think has been
Speaker 1: pretty clear now, But it'd always be like what are
Speaker 1: people saying? Like how are they missing this? And I
Speaker 1: kind of feel like that with Dak too, Like he's
Speaker 1: a rising young quarterback who's actually getting better. He's a
Speaker 1: great person, rehabs going. Well, it's going to be expensive
Speaker 1: to sign him, because yeah, it's expensive to sign quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: but the price is only going up. And I'll say this,
Speaker 1: let's just say, God forbid the Cowboys don't sign Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott by March ninth, when they tag him or by
Speaker 1: July fifteen, he'll be a free agent. Next year he
Speaker 1: will make all of the money and by then it's
Speaker 1: possible he leaves the Cowboys, And again, how does that
Speaker 1: benefit Dallas? Talking to Ian Rappaport, the NFL Network insider,
Speaker 1: did did did Shaun Watson have a face to face
Speaker 1: with his coach or a phone call with David Culley?
Speaker 1: It was not face to face. It was either a
Speaker 1: phone call or could have been zoomed. There's like a
Speaker 1: could have been FaceTime, could have been Skype. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different I don't think it was
Speaker 1: rotary phone, but it was either phone call or some
Speaker 1: sort of face to face interaction type deal. It didn't
Speaker 1: sound like it was much. Deshaun Watson, from what I understand,
Speaker 1: always planned to do this out of respect for David Culley, who,
Speaker 1: at sixty five years old, basically got his lifetime dream
Speaker 1: of being a head coach in the NFL. I never
Speaker 1: thought it would change anything and it hasn't changed anything.
Speaker 1: He's where he is, the Texans are where they are,
Speaker 1: and if they trade him, which I got my doubts
Speaker 1: right now, like it's not going to be anytimes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wondered. I thought Carson Wentz would eventually get traded.
Speaker 1: I didn't think Deshaun Watson would get traded. But here's
Speaker 1: Wenz who wanted out of Philadelphia and got traded, and
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson wants out. But I also wonder about the
Speaker 1: timing of this he and because at some point these
Speaker 1: teams will move on and go all right, if he's
Speaker 1: not available, then we'll look at free agents, or we'll
Speaker 1: look at the draft raft. If I'm the Texans, I
Speaker 1: just say we're open for business, like the Lions did
Speaker 1: with Matthew Stafford. Come on down, give us your best offer,
Speaker 1: and we'll move forward. That makes sense, Yeah, it does
Speaker 1: if you're the Texans and you're okay not having Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1: Like he's one of the best young quarterbacks in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And even though there's this sort of business slash personal
Speaker 1: thing going on, he is a great person, high character quarterback, right,
Speaker 1: So why would you ever want to trade him, like
Speaker 1: whatever price they could give, unless it's the Jaguars or
Speaker 1: like maybe the Jets in some sort of package. Maybe
Speaker 1: you know, replacing Deshaun Watson is hard or impossible unless
Speaker 1: you hit the lottery, which they already did with Watson.
Speaker 1: The timing is really interesting because usually you say, all right,
Speaker 1: like the what's the deadline, right, we need to know
Speaker 1: by free agency, all right, we need to know by
Speaker 1: the draft. Deshaun Watson is so good and so valuable
Speaker 1: that he actually doesn't where he is in the mark
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Like they could say in July twenty
Speaker 1: fifth or something, Okay, fine, we'll trade him, and you
Speaker 1: would have teams ready to offer multiple first round picks
Speaker 1: for one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think the market affects his value if the
Speaker 1: Texans ever decided to trade him. I just don't understand
Speaker 1: what happened. You know, he had that emotional press conference.
Speaker 1: He was crying, he thanked everybody, this was great. What
Speaker 1: did he find out? You know, I know that you
Speaker 1: know you trade Hopkins, but they had traded Hopkins, then
Speaker 1: he got his contract extension. I think, so what did
Speaker 1: he all of a sudden realize that made him go,
Speaker 1: this is not the place I want to be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it when you have a problem
Speaker 1: with the owner that is tough to overcome, and it's
Speaker 1: it's all in a weird situation, right, because you have
Speaker 1: Nicosiro a GM in there, you have David Culley, the
Speaker 1: head coach. Watson doesn't have a problem with either of them,
Speaker 1: and so they have been trying to kind of make
Speaker 1: it right. But what's unfortunate is at this point there
Speaker 1: has not been anything they could do to change his
Speaker 1: mind because they're not even involved. It's the owner. It's
Speaker 1: the owner promising, you know, trading his best receiver without
Speaker 1: telling and he found out on Twitter and then saying
Speaker 1: he would be involved in the process of hiring the GM.
Speaker 1: Just be involved, like just let him know, maybe talk
Speaker 1: some people, and then he finds out on Twitter. I
Speaker 1: think that's something that to him has been really hard
Speaker 1: to overcome. And as of I mean, I've talked to
Speaker 1: people on all sides of this, I honestly don't know
Speaker 1: what fixes this. I thought Drew Brees was going to
Speaker 1: take this week to have his going away party, like
Speaker 1: he had the week to himself. Very quiet with Drew Brees,
Speaker 1: what do you think, Well, today's not over yet, now,
Speaker 1: you know, usually you'd say you wouldn't want to do
Speaker 1: it on Friday because the Saturday papers, But I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, papers or so. I don't know if people
Speaker 1: think like that anymore. Could be today he's Drew Brees
Speaker 1: is retiring. He's going to have an awesome job in
Speaker 1: our world next year. He's gonna make a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Are you guaranteeing Drew Brees is retiring. Yes, he's retiring.
Speaker 1: And the reason I know that is because one he's retiring,
Speaker 1: but two, they took his salary. They took it all
Speaker 1: the way down to the minimum. Drew Brees is not
Speaker 1: going to play for one million dollars next year. He's
Speaker 1: not going to play for the veteran minimum. He's also
Speaker 1: just not going to play. So, you know, maybe he's
Speaker 1: waiting for his time. Maybe he wanted to kind of
Speaker 1: let it breathe a little bit. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: he is retiring. Good to talk to, Ian, have a
Speaker 1: good weekend. We appreciate your time as always. Awesome. Thanks
Speaker 1: for having me man, Take care. That's Ian Rappaport, NFL
Speaker 1: Network Insider. Oh. This Russell Wilson situation fascinating, but so
Speaker 1: is Deshaun Watson. Yes, McLeman, he kind of killed our
Speaker 1: Drew Brees drama. Yeah, I know, couldn't he have left
Speaker 1: the door open just a little bit there. Yeah, easy
Speaker 1: with being staying with the facts and stuff like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, buzz kill. All right, we'll take a break.
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Speaker 1: that game with the Knicks and the Sacramento Kings, here
Speaker 1: is the King's head coach, Luke Walton after the game.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, look, I'm frustrated. We all should
Speaker 1: be frustrated. I don't know if I can say it's
Speaker 1: the most frustrated I've been. You know, there's things when
Speaker 1: we make the same as a coach's you know what
Speaker 1: you can do. You put a plan together and you
Speaker 1: work on things and can communicate those things. So you know,
Speaker 1: the frustration comes out of times because you're not out there.
Speaker 1: You can't hit people, you can't run up and down
Speaker 1: and get it out. So you know, look, I was
Speaker 1: frustrated tonight. Yeah, he slammed his clip port. You give
Speaker 1: up one hundred and forty points to the Knicks. It's
Speaker 1: amazing watching the NBA now because it's it's like strikeouts
Speaker 1: in baseball are not an embarrassment for a hitter. Giving
Speaker 1: up one hundred and thirty points doesn't seem like it
Speaker 1: embarrasses any players. It should. But that's why when you know,
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons named to the All Star team and people said, well, yeah, grad,
Speaker 1: he's a lockdown defender who cares. Okay, but I I
Speaker 1: do care. Like the things that he does well, he
Speaker 1: does really well. He doesn't shoot, therefore we go, now
Speaker 1: he's flawed. But last night Ben Simmons shut down Luca
Speaker 1: don Chick. They won the game. Joe LMB didn't play well,
Speaker 1: but his defense he shut down Luca Dunchick. And I
Speaker 1: think sometimes we forget we look at what you don't do,
Speaker 1: not what you do. And Ben Simmons to me, is
Speaker 1: a still a very good player, all around player. And
Speaker 1: because he's a good defense. Rudy Gobert his name to
Speaker 1: the NBA, you know, second team, first team. It feels
Speaker 1: like every year the last couple of years. Why because
Speaker 1: he plays defense. But with you know, Ben Simmons, nobody says,
Speaker 1: you know, Rudy Gobert can't shoot, but Ben Simmons because
Speaker 1: he's got an awkward shot, or he says to shoot,
Speaker 1: oh we're going to use that against that's a flaw
Speaker 1: with him. I was also watching Zion Williamson last night
Speaker 1: against the Bucks. Now he had thirty four. You know
Speaker 1: the determination. A lot of times when you get your
Speaker 1: shot blocked, you're kind of you know, it's embarrassing, or
Speaker 1: you recoil a little bit, or you don't want to
Speaker 1: put it back up again. Zion Williamson, It's almost like
Speaker 1: Moses Malone. Moses Malone did not jump high. Moses Malone
Speaker 1: was relentless on the boards. And Zion is shorter than
Speaker 1: Moses Malone by a couple inches. And Zion can jump.
Speaker 1: But Moses Malone was never deterred if he got a
Speaker 1: shot block, he just got it, put it back again,
Speaker 1: put it back again. Always great offensive rebutter Zion is
Speaker 1: like that. Zion doesn't stop. He knows going in and
Speaker 1: his second jump is quicker than everybody else. You may
Speaker 1: block it, but he's going to be back up again
Speaker 1: before you know it. And you saw that last night.
Speaker 1: It was fun to see the Greek freak and Zion
Speaker 1: down the stretch. Yeah, Paul Zion the past ten games
Speaker 1: as average in twenty nine game, he's average in twenty
Speaker 1: six on the season. He's twenty years old. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know he's he's nowhere near a finished product. But I
Speaker 1: love that he is not afraid to go inside. I
Speaker 1: love he attacks, he puts pressure on you. I always
Speaker 1: think that he should be shooting at least ten free
Speaker 1: throws a game, and I don't know if that's because
Speaker 1: of his age that he's not getting those calls. I
Speaker 1: think that he thought that after the game last night.
Speaker 1: I think his coach stan Van Gundy thought that as well.
Speaker 1: Quietly in a professional way. They let the officials know
Speaker 1: that they weren't thrilled with that. But you have to
Speaker 1: earn your free throws, which I never understood, like I
Speaker 1: can't give it to a rookie or second year a guy.
Speaker 1: You know, once you get status, then I'm going to
Speaker 1: get as if those players need to be gifted free throws.
Speaker 1: But Zion not afraid, he attacks, and I love it. Yeah, McLevin,
Speaker 1: when you're playing pickup, did you guys do that where
Speaker 1: if you miss a shot, I got your rebound watch
Speaker 1: or twice? It was called a Moses malone growing up.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was just a Philly thing,
Speaker 1: like everybody says, you know, like you know some guys
Speaker 1: like you do it three times. That's always called him
Speaker 1: Moses that anyone heard of that. No, I think it's
Speaker 1: a Philly thing. You Is there anybody better at that?
Speaker 1: Because I never went inside? Yeah that's a thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I would never go, hey, I'm gonna have a
Speaker 1: putback here, be like, No, I don't want to gwinside.
Speaker 1: Bad things happen when you gwinside. All right, mclovin, I
Speaker 1: know you didn't mean to ruin my weekend. And you
Speaker 1: know I hate lists. I had forgotten because we haven't
Speaker 1: done one since. What was the one that ruined your
Speaker 1: entire year? College player of all time? And people had
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan as the best college player of all time,
Speaker 1: which is absolutely positively stupid. I don't even know if
Speaker 1: Mike's the best North Carolina player of all time, Hansborough,
Speaker 1: he might he might not have been the best North
Speaker 1: Carolina player on that team. James Worthy was considered the
Speaker 1: better player. But okay, you got another list. Just give me.
Speaker 1: And I only overheard you talking to Pauli and Seaton,
Speaker 1: so I just was walking by you and I heard it.
Speaker 1: So just give people the concept of what this list
Speaker 1: is all about. Okay, it's similar to the Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: list greatest college football Player, but not of all time
Speaker 1: since two thousand, so it sort of narrows the field
Speaker 1: two thousand and on. Okay, quarterback or football quarterbacks? Oh no, yeah, seton, Andrew,
Speaker 1: did you make this list? The list I've the list
Speaker 1: has starts with two quarterbacks in the near and dear
Speaker 1: to my fade, which is hysterical. I've been trying to
Speaker 1: figure out why they did top sixty and not top fifty.
Speaker 1: It's like such a random number. Why did they do that?
Speaker 1: And then when you look at the list, number sixty,
Speaker 1: take a guess a case Keenum? Right college? Yeah, right college,
Speaker 1: and you're on the right. You're on the right the
Speaker 1: wavelength of people Andrew loves. You'll never get the sixtieth
Speaker 1: best college quarterback of all time? Kevin Cobb. Guess who
Speaker 1: number fifty nine is? Case Keenum? No, Andy Dalton. It's
Speaker 1: about biz our lists. It starts out with Kevin Cobb
Speaker 1: and Andy Dalton. That's why I'm so fired up about it.
Speaker 1: Sixty and fifty nine. Somehow they got the list just
Speaker 1: up enough to get those two dudes in. So that's
Speaker 1: why I went to sixty. And it makes Zach Wilson's
Speaker 1: fifty eight. If they had gone to just fifty. Now,
Speaker 1: we never brought this list of my attention, now, we'd
Speaker 1: never be talking. All right, So but i gotta tell
Speaker 1: you one through five it's gonna ruin definitely at least
Speaker 1: the weekend. All right. We'll talk about that coming up
Speaker 1: next hour. And you know what else I'm talking about
Speaker 1: next hour, barbeq. I'll explain one hour in the books.
Speaker 1: Two more to go on this Friday seat and Paul
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