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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome in. I'm Doug Goliban. This is all ball,

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Speaker 1: all basketball, all the time, and we really appreciate you downloading.

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Speaker 1: The numbers have just exploded recently. Will continue to bring

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Speaker 1: and and this week is no different. Obviously, we had

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Speaker 1: Rick Byrd earlier in the week, and Rick is an

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Speaker 1: outstanding coach. He's gonna be in the College Basketball Hall

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Speaker 1: how he built Belmont from a little known na A

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Speaker 1: I've been watching a lot of these college basketball teams.

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Speaker 1: I do need to give you some like a breakdown

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Speaker 1: pod and things that are interesting. Jason Preston is our

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Speaker 1: guest this week or in this episode. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the business world. I don't really know. But and then

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Speaker 1: tell if if you have friends a basketball hoops fan

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Speaker 1: that guy, especially this holiday season. A long drive, a

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Speaker 1: We have great stories and I try to get great

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Speaker 1: storytellers for those stories. Jason Preston is an unbelievable story

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Speaker 1: kid average too, I said to two points per two

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Speaker 1: points per game. His senior year in high school, he

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Speaker 1: started one game one. He's in his third year at Ohio.

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Speaker 1: You he's averaging twenty one game. He got to start

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Speaker 1: his entire you know, sophomore seasons, some his freshman season

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Speaker 1: as well. How do you go from not starting in

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Speaker 1: high school except for senior night to averaging twenty one game? Crazy,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna join us. I want to quickly go give

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Speaker 1: you some some thoughts here on this athletic um the

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Speaker 1: story that's coming out of l A with the kind

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Speaker 1: of the dissection of what went wrong with the Clippers,

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Speaker 1: the entitlement that was granted to Paul George and Kwiler,

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Speaker 1: Paul George saying, you know that I was used the

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Speaker 1: and then other teammates complaining that Paul George and Kauai

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Speaker 1: It sounds like a lot of jealousy, right. And what's

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Speaker 1: what's fascinating about this thing is that if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: special treatment like that's called in the basketball being a bitch, right.

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Speaker 1: And the thing about the Clippers is they talked about

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Speaker 1: everybody else like everybody else was a world of bitches,

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Speaker 1: and they were apparrelying themselves alves in fighting and jealousy.

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Speaker 1: So look, I I want to make sure this is clear.

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Speaker 1: I I don't understand how the Clippers could have okayed, Hey, yeah,

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Speaker 1: some boundaries. And the San Diego thing, that's just that's

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Speaker 1: Now I'm guessing he probably has an apartment close or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But it clearly ticked off enough people. And Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: college basketball. As we've had so much incredible competition, and

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Speaker 1: discover new players, we discover new town. Jason Preston is

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Speaker 1: one of those guys that America is just now discovering.

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Speaker 1: Jason Preston is a talented junior at Ohio University. He's

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Speaker 1: point guard. His story, though, was told in Big ten Networks.

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Speaker 1: So all I did was retweet this story and Twitter

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Speaker 1: Here's my talk with him. What's it been like for you?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's one thing to play really

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Speaker 1: so you grew up in Jamaica, That's where you spent

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Speaker 1: most of your childhood. No, I grew up in uh, Florida,

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Speaker 1: one game for senior Night. But senior so you're you're

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Speaker 1: felt like I belong And then we started playing. I

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00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: was like, damn, these are men. This is a lot

428
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: harder than I thought. What was it like for you

429
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: when you first showed up. Um, you know I was

430
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: a little nervous about that at first, but um, things

431
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: things are pretty good for me to start. Uh. I

432
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: remember coming into my visit the coach telling me, you know,

433
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: you'd get like backup point guard role about fifteen minutes,

434
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: possibly growing over the years. Um, but I ended up

435
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: starting my first year. You know, things went pretty good

436
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 1: that summer and that fall before the season. Now, at

437
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 1: what point in time did your teammates know you didn't

438
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: you only started one game in high school your college teams.

439
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 1: When I first got here in my summer, I didn't

440
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: really talk to anybody, to be honest, I was kind

441
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: of very focused, ah, kind of isolated. I guess towards

442
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 1: the end of summer, you know, team bonding kind of

443
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 1: went went on, and that's when I started to tell

444
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: people and they were like what yeah, yeah, yeah that

445
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: was that was the common reception. Yeah, what was your

446
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: first winner? Like winter? Oh that was that was? That

447
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: was something else. I mean I got a little bit

448
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: of a of a taste of it because I lived

449
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: in Tennessee and it would snow there sometimes. Um, the

450
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: lowest suite to get it was probably like ten degrees,

451
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: which is which is similar to here. So I I

452
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: had kind of experienced it before. Um, but it wasn't cold.

453
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: Every cold and gray every day in the Midwest is

454
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: very very different than what you're what you're accustomed to. No, yeah, yeah,

455
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: it definitely takes took some adjusting to. But you know

456
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:50,239
Speaker 1: now now it's fine. It's fine. Your your game. And

457
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm friends with Rashot Phillips. We were we played

458
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: against each other, we played at the same time in college.

459
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: Obviously he's kind of a legend or Lando. He works

460
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: with guys and he was one first pointed you out

461
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: to me going back a couple months ago. Yeah, but

462
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: it's not just that you've grown and you've added muscle,

463
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: Like your game has evolved. As you said, when your

464
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: high school, are just a shooter, now you're a point guard.

465
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: Kind of does everything scoring point kind of does everything

466
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: take me through? Like in terms of work, are you

467
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: always an individual workout guy? Do you get in the

468
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: gym you just shoot, work on your game or you

469
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: just I want to go play and I just play

470
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: all day? Um? Kind of both of the last ones.

471
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 1: Me and my my, my best friend Kobe, we'd always

472
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 1: go down to the gym. This is in high school,

473
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: you know, just play a lot of one on one,

474
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: watch a lot of film, and a lot of guys

475
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: like I watched a lot of watch a lot of

476
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: Lebron James, watch a lot of Chris Paul, those two guys.

477
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: I really studied both of their games heavily. And and

478
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: then obviously they have two of the weirdest step backs,

479
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: right Like Lebron's got that weird kind of step to

480
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: the side step at You gotta break that out. If

481
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: you really study Lebron, you gotta have the can you

482
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: make the Lebron sidestep weird step back thing? You know

483
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about? Right that that shotting shoots from three. Yeah,

484
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: I probably did it once last year. You gotta you

485
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: gotta break that. You gotta break that out and then

486
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: get the clip and then screenshot it on the bus

487
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: the same way you you you blew up and then

488
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: send it to lebron Be like, look, I have been

489
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: studying your game. And then Chris Paul like he he

490
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 1: only shoots going right, literally only, but you can't stop it.

491
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: There's it's just crazy how you can't stop the fact

492
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: that you know he's going right. So one of the

493
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: things that fascinates me about you is that you do

494
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: have good feel for game situations, end of games. So

495
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: it's not that you didn't play growing up. Obviously played

496
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: that Tennessee, he played that elite team, he played tournaments,

497
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: but not having played in big moments in high school,

498
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: the prep school games don't always mean nearly as much.

499
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: How have you been able to kind of assimilate to

500
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: real games, to situations, time score, possession, shot clock and

501
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: things like that while while playing in college. Um, I

502
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: might not have played in a bunch of games like that,

503
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: But like I said, I've watched for years and years

504
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: and years a lot of a lot of close games.

505
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: Time and clock management, a lot of high key players

506
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: from you know, Chris and Lebron, And it's just something

507
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: that I that I look at and see that I

508
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: can then relate. You mentioned your friend Kobe. Where is

509
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: he now? Um, he's down in Florida right now. He's

510
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: looking to find a school for himself right now too.

511
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: So what what what is your relationship it like with him?

512
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: Since kind of you blown up and you become this

513
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: kind of mega star. He's like, that's my boy, that's

514
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: the gym in high school. I do it all along. Oh,

515
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: nothing's really changed, you know. I still talk to him

516
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: like every day. Um yeah, he he actually went viral

517
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: one time in high school himself. Is uh not? Nothing

518
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: has changed? Nothing nothing, Okay, So then this is what's

519
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: This is what's crazy though, right Like you've gone viral,

520
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: you've blown up. Everybody knows you are, but there's there's

521
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: nobody on campus. There's nobody to come up and be

522
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: like you know, I had I saw that sell you

523
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: on social media. Alright. So the the good is everybody

524
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: knows you are. The bad is and it's not helping

525
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: you as much with the ladies as it should be.

526
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: Oh no, I no, I actually I have a girlfriend,

527
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: and I have a girlfriend, so she's probably happy for

528
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: the social distancing of everybody else, right, because everybody it

529
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: would have been a bunch. But but um, this team is,

530
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: this team is very talented. Um. What you learned from

531
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: the Illinois game, Um that uh, you stay consistent. You no,

532
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: we could play with anyone in the country. You know,

533
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: I was very proud of our guy. You know, we

534
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: watched a lot of film prior to the game. You know,

535
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: it was it was the third game in three days,

536
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: but we have been watching before and especially after our

537
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: first two games. We really made a game plan on

538
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: attacking what they would do on ball, screens and whatnot.

539
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: And our guys executed great. DJ Wilson said, great screens,

540
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: Ben Van Uposter screen on both ends, Lendon mcdal on defense,

541
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: Myles Brown defense. You know it was. It was a

542
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: great effort and we just got a stake consistent. Now

543
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: I got a chance to coach Kofy in one of

544
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: these Peano steals, which is like they just go up

545
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: and down dunk on each other. And one, I really

546
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: like him as a as a kid. But two, that

547
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: is a grown ass man, right, That is a that

548
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: is a big They don't have dudes like that in

549
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: the MAC. They may have used to have guys like

550
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: that in the MAC, but they don't kofe Kobe Kober

551
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: and what what What was he like to play against? Yeah, yeah,

552
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: you're right everything he said, It's true. He's huge. He's huge.

553
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because I would say DJ he held

554
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: his own you know that at the time, he'd be

555
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: backing him down in DJ with was chesting him up,

556
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: walling him up strong, and it was it was impressing. Yeah,

557
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's that's a big that's a big

558
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: human being. And I was like, man, I first saw him,

559
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: he was like sixteen. I was like, no way, chow

560
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: me his driver's license, Like okay, okay, I'll buy it.

561
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: I guess you are. I guess you are sixteen. That

562
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: is a big dude. For for you personally, what do

563
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: you want to improve it? What do you want to

564
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: get better at UM? For this this year? I definitely

565
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: wanna cut down on my turnovers UM and also shoot

566
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: more off the dribble, maybe get more threes up this year.

567
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: Those two areas of something I really worked on. What

568
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: has the season been like with so much should be unknown,

569
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, and it's it's weird because again this kind

570
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: of comes back to I'm guessing prep school probably prepared

571
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: you for it better than some other guys. More the

572
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: traditional route in that the three and three days, that's

573
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: like an AU tournament rate. That's you know, everybody makes

574
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: it out to be so hard. That's better. I'd prefer

575
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: to play as as a practice and have to play

576
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: defense the whole time. Um. But with all the unknown,

577
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: with having a social distance from other students, with having

578
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: to you know, kind of just be you know, be

579
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: safe and be smart. What's this been like for you

580
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: for you? Oh, I mean it's been an adjustment, but

581
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: I I don't mind it. Uh, classes are going pretty

582
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: well for me. You know, I got a nice little

583
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: schedule going on. Um, you don't see too many people,

584
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: but that's fine, you know, you learned to adjust. Iive

585
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: of my roommates that are on the team. Um, Like

586
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: I said, I have my girlfriend and it's fine. When

587
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: when when people see your story, when they hear about uh,

588
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: when they hear about your mom and how you kept going,

589
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: when you hear about high school and you kept going,

590
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: what does that come from? How do you how do

591
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: you relate to somebody else's going through a tough time

592
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: that there can be something better on the horizon. Um,

593
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: I would say really just having faith, trusting in God's

594
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: playing and knowing that everything happens for a reason. If

595
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: you can truly believe and everything happens for a reason,

596
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: you know you'll you'll get through a lot. But but

597
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: but how like like the world was kicking your ass

598
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: for a while, right it was? It was handing you

599
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: asked opens And but I mean in those in those

600
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: moments where you're like, my mom, is is everything I have? Like?

601
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: How do you? It's great to say you have faith?

602
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: But is it simply praying to God? Is it finding

603
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: it within your soul? What? How does how does that work? No? Yeah,

604
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: it is? You know, and it goes a long way.

605
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: And my mom would always would always tell me that

606
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: to just stay strong, Um, keep praying to God and

607
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: everything will work itself out. And I'm telling you, if you,

608
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: if you, if you truly believe in you and your

609
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: faith is is is strong, it can take you a

610
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: long way. Is it harder to make it what you've

611
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: done or to sustain it? Right? Because last year you

612
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: got to start as a freshman out of nowhere. Now

613
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: everybody knows who you are. Is it more difficult now

614
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: when you're you're on top of people's scattering reports? You know?

615
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: I would always say it's harder to sustain. You know,

616
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: it's kind of easy to be the underdog, you know,

617
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: when when it's more expected of you, I would say

618
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: it's probably harder in this scenario. I don't know. I

619
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: don't really like look at it as pressure to to

620
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: keep performing, you know, I'm just trying to do whatever

621
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: it takes to win each night. Well, I'm I can

622
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: tell you from the people I know in Orlando and

623
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: from kind of everybody who has followed the store, eight

624
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: people are just amazed by your perseverance and by what

625
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: you've done. And it does feel like it's only you

626
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: kind of only cracking the surface, right, like you just

627
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: it's one of those the more you watch, the more

628
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna getting better. And now you're getting that kind

629
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: of scores confidence and almost little arrogance where you just

630
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: know it's going in, right, does it? Is it? It

631
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: feel different before you believe it, but now everybody in

632
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: that bench believes it. That's that's gotta be a little different,

633
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: different deal. Yeah. My teammates they always tell me to

634
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: keep shooting. They they know I like to pass, but

635
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, they've instill a lot of confidence in me.

636
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: And it's it's Uh, it's awesome. Definitely looking to keep

637
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: growing at this season. How many shots today? Um, I

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