1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome. Hello and welcome. This is the Ron 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: Burgundy Podcast. My name is Ron. My name is Ron. 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: This is an episode. I'm going to sing the entire episode. 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to sing. If you don't like my singing, 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: then I suggest you turn this off. I will be 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: singing for a long long time. I will not stop. 7 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: I will not stop. Here with me is my co 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: host and friend, Carolina. Oh Cara Lina. What a wonderful 9 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: name to sing, Carol Lina, Oh Carolina, Carolina to lord 10 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: rue Carolina, how are you? I'm I'm fine. Oh please 11 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: sing it. It's fun to sing it. You really must, 12 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: I insist. So, Carolina, how are you? I'm not I'm 13 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: not going to sing, Yes you are. No, I'm not 14 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: feeling like singing today. So every day is a sing 15 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: song day? What are you talking about now? Sing? Run? 16 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm serious. I don't. I just don't want to sing. 17 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: Can I just I understand? But what about just one word? Okay? No? 18 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: Didn't that feel just wonderful? So blunderful and wonderful. No, 19 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: I didn't hear you. You didn't sing your answers, so 20 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: I didn't even hear you. I said, no. It's like 21 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: we're in a Broadway musical. It's a musical. We're in 22 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: a musical. Wouldn't you say no? I would not? You 23 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: sing so well, it's like a dream come true. Stop. 24 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to sing, but you're doing it and 25 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: it's fun. You have to admit it. You're singing and 26 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: it's fun. And now you can't stop. I can't stop, 27 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: and I will stop because I don't want to be 28 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: singing at all. This is the last time you will 29 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: hear me singing. What about Now? I'm done singing? And 30 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: that was fun, But I think we need to get 31 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: on with today's show without singing. What's today's show about? 32 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: You said you wanted to talk about joy, how to 33 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: feel joyful? Please just sing what you just said. I 34 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: won't ask again, I promise, Okay, Um, you said you 35 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about joy. That is the true subject 36 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: of the show is joy. It's an emotion that we 37 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: all feel, but we never seem to get enough. Because no, 38 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: we never seem to get enough, maybe because we are 39 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: living in joyless times. Right run, If you could sing 40 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: what you say, you would find a brand new day. 41 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: Singing songs fill the heart. It's the way each day 42 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: should start. When you sing, you clear the air, so 43 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: there's nothing dirty there. Ask any little girl or boy. 44 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: Singing brings the greatest joy. Wow, you actually sang a 45 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: song one that I could sing along. Maybe I'll try 46 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: singing to singing harmony under you. We shall sing a 47 00:03:53,320 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: song together like two birds and sunny weather or shoes 48 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: shall be heard on high perfect harmony. When we try 49 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: too as one and one as two, the sound we 50 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: make is something new. The song is sung without a 51 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: hitch together. We have perfect bitch um. That was awful. 52 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: We we sounded awful, so hideous, a little fun though, right, 53 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: you know what. I never really admit this, but yeah 54 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: I was. I'm in a better mood. And that's what 55 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: singing is for. Okay, Okay, singing is done. And for 56 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: those of you just tuning in, today's show is about joy. Okay, 57 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: Ron And I've told you this for two years. People 58 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: don't tune into podcasts. We're not on the radio, we're 59 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: not live to set. I'll be honest with you. It's 60 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: a tough concept for me to get my head around 61 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: what you just explained, the podcast concept that there's not 62 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 1: and that's that's one of many modern things in media 63 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: that I'm just really having trouble getting a grasp of, 64 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: Like the Peacock Network, I mean, what is that? Or 65 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: HBO Max Strange, You're right, the paramount network. Don't CBS 66 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: all access? I mean, what's going on here? Has everyone 67 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: gone crazy? I mean I had access to CBS for 68 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: fifty years. We had a deal. They gave me football, 69 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: and I bought sampson I luggage. They gave me all 70 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: in the family and I bought wheat things because Sandy 71 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: Duncan told me to. That was our deal. Now CBS 72 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: says no deal, and you have to belong to a 73 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,119 Speaker 1: gated community to even watch our shows. Sometimes the world 74 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: feels like a mayor to go around spinning in a 75 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: tornado that's ripping through a Walmart, cheap shoes and TV 76 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: sets and buckets of paint flying everywhere while I'm holding 77 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: onto my horsey for dear life. I know, Ron, it 78 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: does actually feel like that. But let's try, and we'll 79 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: just slow down a little and um just concentrate on 80 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: today's show. I mean, there just seems like a bunch 81 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: of superfluous stuff. Yeah, there's a lot, a lot of 82 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: what do you say, content? Yeah, it's a content rich 83 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: environment right now we live in there's a lot to 84 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: look at wealth. Carolina, thank you for the steadying kind words. 85 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: You're always the rock in the stormy waters of my brain. 86 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: The concept of joy? What is joy? By the way, 87 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: speaking of joy, are you familiar with that book The 88 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: Joy of Sex? I've heard of it. Those drawings, Oh man, Yeah, 89 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: there's there's back in my day that was naked people 90 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: doing things to each other. Oh boy. Anyway, concept of joy? So, 91 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: the big question that academicians have been pondering for millenniums 92 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: is what is joy? Is joy a person? I mean, 93 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: I've known some joys that have given me great joy. 94 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: Joy Carrol comes to mind. She was a lounge singer 95 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: that I had a fling with. Fifteen years later, I 96 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: hooked up with a professional woman named Carol Joy. How 97 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: about that joy? Carrol and Carol Joy bookends. No, the 98 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: kind of joy I'm talking about is not a person, 99 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: even though both those joys gave me great joy below 100 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: my belt. Yeah, and Nick, that'd be great if you 101 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: could put a rim shot in there. Maybe we'll talk 102 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: about it, right, I mean, in fact, let me redo 103 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: the line. And Nick, you just lay in a rim shot. 104 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: That's how good? Sure? Okay, h even though both joys 105 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: gave me great joy below the belt. Yes, all right, 106 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: people tuning in now are really going to love the show. 107 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: What I'm talking about is that happy, spiritual feeling of 108 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: being alive on earth. Everyone deserves it, but not everyone 109 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: knows how to find it. Joy I'm talking about, I 110 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: hear you, I do. I mean to be honest listening 111 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: to you. And besides like the sound effects and any 112 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: of that, I think this could be a really helpful 113 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: episode of the podcast. I think everyone right now needs 114 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: more joy in lives, and I think that maybe we could, 115 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, give some people some active tools to help them. 116 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell them how to get joy if 117 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: you would just shut up, Okay, but first we need 118 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: to understand what isn't bringing us joy? Right? So, yeah, 119 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: the Flip Side exactly like to play a game with 120 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: my dog Baxter from time to time where we throw 121 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: the most plainly joyless sentences we can think of back 122 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: and forth, regular sentences you might say that have no 123 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: joy in them. It's it's a lot of fun and 124 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: you can play at home to would you like to 125 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: play Carolina? Yeah, I'll try it. Okay, give me a 126 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: joyless sentence, you might say, or here in real life, 127 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: let me think. Um, here's one. They're having a sale 128 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: on tube socks at Nordstrum's rack. Oh that's good, that's 129 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: awful and joyless. That's really good. Okay, how about this one. 130 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: I'm on my way to the d MB. Terrible, Yes, 131 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: the worst? Um, okay, what about this? My name is Carolina. 132 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: That's c A R O L I N A. Oh. Yes. 133 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: Spelling your name out for any reason is the opposite 134 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: of joy. Here, here's one. Baxter always says they need 135 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: to fix that hole in the road. How about I 136 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: should try and learn Spanish. This bread got wet. The 137 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: dripping noise is coming from under there. Have you seen 138 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: the vacuum cleaner. Let's get on a zoom call at 139 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: eight am. I need to remember to call the insurance company. 140 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: This bottle is empty. I'm proud of my tofu salad. 141 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: How much gas should I get? I need a new belt? Um, 142 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: my cat just died. Hold the boat there, Carolina, you 143 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: crossed the line. The game's no fun if you bring 144 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: in sickness or death. Of course, that's going to be joyless. 145 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: That that that kind of joylessness is just going to 146 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: happen in life, and we call them tragedies. There's no 147 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: joy in the tragic. What I'm talking about is the 148 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: joylessness of everyday life. There's no joy in an eight 149 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: am zoom call. There's no joy in buying tube socks 150 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: at Nordstrom's rack, even if they are on sale and 151 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: it's a great deal. Fortunately for science, I have composed 152 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: a list of ten human behaviors that demonstrate you are 153 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: not experiencing enough joy. If you are doing three or 154 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: more of these things, then you need to stop and 155 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: find some joy in life. So this is your list 156 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: of behaviors that indicate you are living a joyless life. Yes, yes, 157 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: And I call it the Ron Burgundy Joy Indicator Meter List. Okay, 158 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: so is it a meter or a list both? It's 159 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: really just observations on behaviors I associate with joylessness. But 160 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: I may need to publish it one day in the 161 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: New England magazine of Science, so I need to call 162 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: it a meter or a scale. And you is the 163 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: word standard and study and laboratory. So you really think 164 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: people are going to be interested in publishing this? Well, 165 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: I just need to have the option and by using 166 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: those words it allows me to be published in the 167 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: New England magazine of Science. So these are ten behaviors 168 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: that could mean you're experiencing no joy in life. Correct, 169 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: and you can have one of them, are possibly two, 170 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: but if you're guilty of three or more, you are 171 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: probably a joyless person. Um, all right, well let's hear them. 172 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: Please locate them for the audience. Start with behavior number one. 173 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: You are a man over the age of thirty and 174 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: you wear blue jean cutoffs more than four days a week. 175 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: That's kind of strange because you would think someone relaxed 176 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: enough to wear cut offs all week long would be 177 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: a fairly joyful person. But there's a big difference between 178 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: relaxed and lazy. You know, so sweatpants and blue jeans 179 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: cutoffs are fine, and you're when you're lounging, although I 180 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: don't think I've ever been in a pair of blue jeans, 181 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: much less a blue jeans short However, if you find 182 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: yourself in church, or at a store that's not Walmart, 183 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: or at work in blue jeans cutoffs, then you're a 184 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: joyless person. Okay, Um, I don't think everyone will agree, 185 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: but let's just move on. It's science, okay, so you 186 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: can't agree or disagree with facts. Okay, it's an opinion. 187 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: But yeah. Behavior number two, you're someone who still thinks 188 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: you are getting amazing deals at Costco. I actually agree 189 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: with this one. It's just huge crowds. It's like a 190 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: joy less giant box of five dollar chickens and sea 191 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: containers full of awful clothes. Just yeah, I agree. Let's 192 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: go on. That haven't been said. Those five dollar cutlets 193 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: you eat those a's A they make a mean cutlet. 194 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: You're pan fried, a little olive oil, little salt. I 195 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: know how to cook chicken. It's okay, anyway, yes, us 196 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: go okay. Behavior number three. You watch more than two 197 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: hours of news a day. I mean, it depends what's 198 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: on the news, but sometimes I find myself watching the 199 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: news all day. Then you should be careful to two 200 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: more things, and you'll be scientifically proven to be a 201 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: joyless person. Wait, but you're a news anchor, so how 202 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: can you say this. It is precisely because I am 203 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: a news anchor that I can tell you that too 204 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: much news will make you joyless. That there was a 205 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: world many years ago, maybe in a different galaxy, that 206 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: presented people with the option to read the news from 207 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: what was called a newspaper in the morning, didn't watch 208 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: a half hour recap of the big stories at night. 209 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: They called that recap the evening news, and it was 210 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: a nice way to keep up with the events. But 211 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: now joyless people are glued to their phones looking at 212 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: news for four to five to ten hours a day. 213 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: Scientists don't know why these people do this. We we 214 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: are working on it. What we do know is it 215 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: makes you joyless behavior for taking pictures of your food. 216 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: What kind of joyless idiot takes pictures of their food. Now, 217 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about pink drinks you might get on vacation, 218 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: or birthday cakes or cupcakes that look like boobs. That 219 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: that is joyfull, that's in the joyful category. What I'm 220 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: talking about is a picture of a salad with an 221 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: avocado on it, or a plate of spaghetti. I'm talking 222 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: about a sandwich. Why why people do this is a 223 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: complete mystery to me. Okay, well, now I have to 224 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: fuss up. I take pictures of salads I make sometimes, 225 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: or a nice pasta dinner. I mean, I just think 226 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: it's nice to share with people something you like. Or 227 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: something you think is well done. And I do think 228 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: good food can be remembered. I call both. I mean 229 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: good food should be eaten. I think people take pictures 230 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: of food to show off. I'm eating a fancy sandwich 231 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: and you're not. You know, I'm eating a bowl of soup, 232 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: which makes me very interesting. People who take pictures of 233 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: food are joyless people. And that's two on you, Carolina. 234 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: You cannot afford to get another or you will be 235 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: a joyless person. I understand. Um, okay, what's next on 236 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: the list? Behavior number five people who try and walk cats. 237 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: I don't get. I don't get this one. You've seen them. 238 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: There's always some weirdo in the neighborhood it tries to 239 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: walk a cat like a dog. Not only is it ridiculous, 240 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: it also means you are a joyless person. Cat people 241 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: are not joyless. I'll start by because there's a lot 242 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: of people who love their cats. They do, however, experience 243 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: joy in a more cerebral, less fun way than dog people. 244 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: That signs. But cat owners who try and walk their 245 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: cats like dogs are joyless, plain and simple. No cat 246 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: in the history of cats wants to walk on a 247 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: leash around the block you and show me videos and 248 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 1: tell me stories. But I know cats. Cats have spoken 249 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: to me. They have confided that walking outside a leash 250 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: is the stupidest activity any human has ever tried. And 251 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: that's including ultimate frisbee and hot dog eating contests. You 252 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: can step on supermanscape, you can spit into the wind, 253 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: but you don't walk your cat on a leash outside. 254 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: You simply don't do it. I just want to double 255 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: back and ask about the cats um talking to you. 256 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: Oh boy, Carolina, huh, I knew you'd raise a red 257 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: flag on that one. Look, the mysteries of the world 258 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: and the great unknoble universe dance around in your head 259 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: like gravel in a tin pot, clanking and clanking without 260 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 1: making music. Yes, cats talk to me. I am unusual 261 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: that way. It's not something I can explain. But the 262 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: universe is filled with the unexplained. Take jazz as rock fusion, 263 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: for instance. There's no explanation for jazz rock fusion. Take 264 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: the banana, no explanation. Take Rudolph Giuliani. How do you 265 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: explain Rudolph Giuliani? You can't. I can talk to cats, 266 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: and they can talk to me, and they all tell 267 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: me that walking on a leash around a neighborhood is dumb. 268 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: D U m B dumb. It's for joyless people. Is 269 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: it something you do, Carolina? No, as you know, I 270 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: have dogs. Okay, you're on the edge. I was holding 271 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: my breath. Okay. The next habit of the joyless behavior 272 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: Number six, men who wear sandals. Now this one is complicated. 273 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: Of course, men who live around the Mediterranean Sea, Greeks 274 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: and Italians North Africans can wear sandals. They've been wearing 275 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: sandals for at least four thousand years. I'm not talking 276 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: about them. But if you are an American and you 277 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: are sandals, than you are joyless. Okay, So besides people 278 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: who have lived around the Mediterranean Sea for thousands of years, 279 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: for many millennia. I don't know if this one's fair. 280 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I wear sandals pretty much all summer long. Okay, 281 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: but you're you're a woman. Women can wear sandals. Men cannot. 282 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: What about when you go to the beach. Those are 283 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: flip flops. Flip flops are not sandals. There's a there's 284 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: a real distinction. Prison shoes and crocs are permissible, but 285 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: I frown upon them. I'm talking about leather sandals, handcrafted 286 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: hippie shoes for grown men. People who wear them are 287 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: scientifically proven to be joyless people. Behavior number seven people 288 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: who say they like the Denver Broncos. It's bad enough 289 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: that you live in America's most boring city. It doesn't 290 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: make you joyless, though, but saying you like the Denver 291 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: Broncos definitely classifies you as a joyless person. I'm sorry, 292 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: Bronco fans. You're You're not a terrible person. You're like 293 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: what we call a good person. You are a nice person, probably, 294 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: But because you say I like the Denver Broncos, we 295 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: now know through science that you are joyless. And on 296 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: the scale of joylessness, you are also at the level 297 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: of no fun So you are especially joyless. Maybe pick 298 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: another team, like the Arizona Cardinals. That one feels personal, 299 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: but can continue. Sorry for interrupting, okay. Behavior number eight 300 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: owning a duva cover. I'm what's wrong with owning a 301 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: dube cover? Be careful there, Carolina. Alright, you're you're treading 302 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: on thin ice over there. If you say you have 303 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: a duvet cover, then that's three on my list and 304 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: you are done. You're joyless. I actually just use blankets, 305 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: but I'm just curious. What could be wrong with owning 306 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: a dube cover? Well, are you kidding me? It's a 307 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: giant bag there. There there's no man made reason on 308 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: the planet for the invention of the dubaka. If you 309 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: have one, or more than one, and many people who 310 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: own duvets have multiple duvet covers, then you are especially joyless. 311 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: Not as joyless as a person who likes the Denver Broncos, 312 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: but you're still pretty dawn joyless. This seems harsh. I 313 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: mean it, just a duvet cover just technically protects your 314 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: duvet and keeps it clean, so then you only have 315 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: to wash the duvet cover. I'm not being harsh at 316 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: all here, Carolina. Walking a cat outside on a leash 317 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: is very dumb. Believe in costco has great deals is 318 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: also dumb. But owning a duvet cover means you're insufferably joyless. 319 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: If you want to experience immediate gratification and joy, not 320 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: unlike an orgasm, throw away your duvet cover right now. 321 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: It's not too late. Behavior Number eight people who like 322 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: hard Seltzer, Well, I'm good with this one because I 323 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: don't drink Lucky again, Carolina dodging a bullet because drinking 324 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: hard seltzer is one of the more joyless activities to 325 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: come from our modern times. I'll confess I I like 326 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: a good Scotch and soda from time to time, although 327 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: I prefer my Scotch neat or with a couple of 328 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: rocks on a hot day. But a tasty Scotch and 329 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: soda is a far cry from an alcoholic appleberry flavored 330 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: fizzy drink for grown adults who haven't even been weaned 331 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: off of juice boxes and animal crackers. Jesus and its 332 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: flavors are created in a laboratory by robots. These robots 333 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: then throw an alcohol and seltzer water and put it 334 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: in a can for dumbbells to drink. Here's the rub. 335 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: They look like they're having a good time drinking hard seltzer. 336 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: They might, They might even look like they are experiencing joy, 337 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: But the science is pretty clear here. These are joyless 338 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: people who should not be allowed in bars for the 339 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: damage they could be doing to the atmosphere. People who 340 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: drink hard seltzer are joyless. If they look like they're 341 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: having fun, then how can you tell they're joyless. I've 342 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: been to parties where it looks like people drinking hard 343 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: Seltzer or having a good time. They don't seem oh, 344 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: I I don't doubt they look that way. That they 345 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: were probably taking their shirts off and shouting things like 346 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: go bracos. And these heart Seltzers were on sale at Costco. 347 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: I mean, heart Seltzer plays tricks on social scientists because 348 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: those that drink it do in fact give off the 349 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: impression that they are having fun, but multiple lab tests 350 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: show they are not having fun and they are joyless. 351 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: The ninth behavior on this list that is a dead 352 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: giveaway that you are a joyless person is owning a fish, 353 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: um a singular fish, like what do you mean? Or 354 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: having an aquarium. Yes, if you have an aquarium with 355 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: some fish, a fish, or multiple fish, you are a 356 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: joyless person. I don't know, I can kind of see that. 357 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: I mean, if you have an aquarium that takes up 358 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: a whole wall in your house and you have something 359 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: like a shark or an eel or a man to ray, 360 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: you're not joyless. You experience great joy. I've had such 361 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: an aquarium. I had had one behind my bed that 362 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: took forty thousand gallons of water inside it was a 363 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: short fin mako shark, a hammerhead shark, and a killer whale. 364 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: It was. It was amazing, and if you threw a 365 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: live pig in the aquarium, the most beautiful colors of 366 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: red and pink would swirl around, giving the bedroom all 367 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: a whorehouse glow. That was very sensual. And I found 368 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: out the hard way a killer whale should not be 369 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: kept in such a small aquarium. Through ingenious sonar conversations. 370 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: While I slept, the killer whale, who was named Bloppy, 371 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: convinced the hammerhead shark named Jason Bourne to bang his 372 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: head against the glass until it broke. I was gonna 373 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: say it doesn't sound safe. It sounded insecure well, and 374 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: it caused a lot of water damage anyway. But apparently 375 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: Bloppy's dream was to escape and eat me. It told 376 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: you that in the sonar in the sonar conversation. Yes, 377 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: fish are dumb, though, and when they escaped, they all 378 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: died on the floor, you know, flopping around without water. 379 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: But but the story has a happy ending, it does. 380 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: They tasted great on the barbecue. Where was I You 381 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: were saying that people who had aquariums were joyless? Yes, 382 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm having trouble of following a little bit. Well, I 383 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: think I think I clearly made the distinction that what 384 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: I had was a cool aquarium. Yeah, what you had 385 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: was massively illegal, but um it sure was. That one 386 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: fish is lame, but killer whale. You have to remember 387 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: it was a different time. I didn't realize you needed 388 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: to have the paperwork and the health board and the 389 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: where is this paperwork? I never had it, That's what 390 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But what I had was joy But the 391 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: average human who just has a couple of guppies in 392 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: an aquarium, that's that's joyless. You ate your sharks because 393 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: they died on your bedroom war and I had to 394 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: cover up the evidence. I was about to do three 395 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: years in medium security prison for harboring wild animals in 396 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: an unsuitable environment. But an aquarium with fishes a joyless endeavor. 397 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: Listen to me, Carolina, medium security prison. Okay, an aquarium 398 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: with a few fish is a joyless endeavor. And although 399 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: I sympathize with these people, they are still joyless. If 400 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: it's the only thing on this list they are guilty of, 401 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: then they may very well experienced joy in their lives. 402 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: But my advice would be to eat those fish as 403 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: quickly as they can and get the aquarium out of 404 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: their house. There's plenty of fish in the sea, as 405 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: the saying goes, which in this case applies to actual 406 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: fish and the actual sea. You don't need a boring 407 00:26:50,840 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: box of water in your house. Ye. So that was 408 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: number nine. Um, what is the last indicator of a 409 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: joyless life? I think our listeners are very excited. Well, 410 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: I've written about it before, and I know at this 411 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: point it's almost heartless to bring it up because to 412 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: this day there is no cure. But the number ten 413 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: positive indicator of joylessness is being Canadian. I'm a little confused. 414 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: You just overaw being from Canada. I've met some joyful 415 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: Canadians that you met here in the United States. Right. Yeah, 416 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: Once out of their country, a Canadian can in fact 417 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: become a joyful person. But if they're still in Canada, 418 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: then they they make Denver Broncos fans look like SpongeBob 419 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: square Pants. Canadians are so joyless they can actually infect 420 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 1: others around them and cause debilitating depression. That seems like 421 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you wake up in Canada, there 422 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: is no tomorrow. Oh my god, Yeah, there is no 423 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: hope of a future, only the drudgery of your endless 424 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: days and the horrifying bleakness of a night without in 425 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: We'll be cutting this out. Sleep is an escape, and 426 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 1: escape is all you dream about if if you are Canadian, 427 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: you don't need to other indicators on this list. You 428 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: are joyless. Science is working on a cure, and the 429 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: most promising is to make your country part of the 430 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: United States. There's there's a lot of fear though that 431 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: your joylessness could infect u S citizens. So for now 432 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: we are working on other cures. Drugs and talk therapy 433 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: have been tested, but the results have been disappointing. In 434 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: the meantime, your best bet is to leave Canada. Any 435 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: place on Earth will do. Wait. So you participated in 436 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: a study about drugs and talk therapy with Canadians, Yes, 437 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: Canadian subjects who are suffering joylessness from living in Canada. 438 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: I was there in the room two way mirror watching 439 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: the studies. It sounds very controversial. Well, it's way ahead 440 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: of its time and a lot of times, Uh, you 441 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: can't let the general public know what you're doing because 442 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: it's so high level. Yeah, I wonder if anyone knew 443 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: what you were doing. Well, the thing is it wasn't working. 444 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: We had Pamela Anderson, Oh my gosh, Ryan Gosling and 445 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: the bear naked ladies. Those were our main subject, that's 446 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: what we're conducting the talk therapy with. And it was 447 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: I was so hopeful these clinical trials or they went nowhere. Wow, 448 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to be honest. This sounds actually just plainly rude. 449 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: And I know for a fact that we have some 450 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: Canadian fans of this podcast, so I just want to 451 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: be respectful, and what I would say to them is 452 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: that joylessness is a problem that afflicts many people, not 453 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: just Canadians. As you can see by my scientific list, 454 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: there are a lot of joyless people in the world. 455 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: I didn't talk about racist or sexist or biggots of 456 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: any kind. I didn't didn't talk about proud boys or 457 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: people on Twitter. But as we know, these people experience 458 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: very low levels of joy and high levels of sociopathy. 459 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: Anger is a great indicator of low joy levels. So 460 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: my list isn't definitive, but it is scientific. It's it's 461 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: no coincidence that if you own a duvet cover, you 462 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: probably have a fish or shop at Costco or our 463 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: Canadian they usually link up. Most most joyless people have 464 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: at least three of these traits from my list. Okay, 465 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: you've classified all kinds of joyless traits, and you and 466 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: I had some fun thinking of joyless sentences to say. 467 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: But I just feel like in a podcast about joy, 468 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: you haven't really defined joy or explained how to get 469 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: joy out of life. For some of our listeners who 470 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: tuned in for that reason, Well, I was getting to it. 471 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I I I don't like feeling rushed, Carolina. 472 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm not rushing you. I know you can eat an 473 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: Italian meatball sub and under five seconds, but some of 474 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: us like to take our time with things. So I'm sorry, 475 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: And I'm not accusing you of being a glut. You're 476 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,959 Speaker 1: young and impatient, and yes, you can be quite pushy, 477 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: even bordering on mean, but I'm not blaming you. Okay, 478 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: don't push me, though I'm not I'll push back. I 479 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: don't know much about the so called me too movement, 480 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: but I'm assuming there's still room for a fistfight or 481 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: two between us. I'm sorry, I'm not sure I'm understanding. 482 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: Are you threatening to beat me up because I asked 483 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: you to explain joy. Oh goodness, No, of course not you. 484 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: You're misinterpreting me again as always. But what would happen 485 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: if we just finally got to the bottom of this 486 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: anger we have towards each other and we we both 487 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: just got planks of wood and kicked the out of 488 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: each other. Well that's not really fair, because you've been 489 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: in so many weird battles and gladiator fights, and I've 490 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: never even been in a fist fight. What about slapping? 491 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: Have you ever been in a slapping fight or a 492 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: cat fight? Women often get in cat fights with hair 493 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: pulling and scratching. I see it a lot in footage 494 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: from Miami Beach. You've been in some of these over 495 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: the years, I assume. No, No, not really. I mean 496 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: there was this one time in college I gone to 497 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: a shoving fight in a bar and I did end 498 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: up slapping that person. Exhilarating, right, I mean yeah, I 499 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: hate to admit that, but it was. It was kind 500 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: of refreshing. A good open hand slap for someone who 501 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: truly deserves it can be very refreshing. I once slapped 502 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: an old man who kicked my dog Baxter for no 503 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: reason at all. Baxter was minding his own business in 504 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: the park one day, chasing butterflies. He really can be 505 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: a stupid dog sometimes. When this elderly and threatened to 506 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: lock him up, I exchanged some heated words with the gentleman, 507 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: and although I'm not proud, I insulted his shoes. They 508 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: were these tacky auburn loafers. The apparently it didn't like 509 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: what I had to say about his shoes, and he 510 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: kicked back ster. Oh my god, yes, So I slapped 511 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: him and it was a wonderful slap, and he knew it, 512 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: and I think looking back on it, he even would 513 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,959 Speaker 1: say it was a well placed and well timed slap. 514 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: You shouldn't slap old men. Well, you shouldn't kick dogs either. 515 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: I don't think it's the same. So now, so now 516 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: you hate dogs? Fascinating. I don't I have dogs. Just 517 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear stories about you hitting the elderly. 518 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: It's not allowable. I didn't make a habit of it. 519 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: I probably only hit a handful of old people in 520 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: my life. One came at me with a knife. She 521 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: was KGB in a hired assassin. Was it was? I 522 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: not allowed to defend myself. Don't twist what I'm saying. 523 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you're just you're a tall, large man. 524 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: Unless you're protecting yourself, I see no reason for you 525 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: to ever hit an older man or god forbid, an 526 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: older woman. There was a hit on me in the 527 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: late seventies. It was an open hit, which meant any 528 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: qualified professional could take their shot at me. I had 529 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: massad guys, Chinese guys KGB, and independent contractors coming at 530 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: me all hours of the day. One day in June, 531 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: I fought off four different hitmen, the last attempt ending 532 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 1: in a high speed car chase through the San Diego Zoo. 533 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: There was a lot of blood that day, most of 534 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: it hippopotamus, but also the French hitman who came at me. 535 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry why I missed why there was a hit 536 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: on you. Well, it was all a big mix up. 537 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: I looked like some Polish criminal named Ivan Blatsky and 538 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 1: they came at me. Yeah. Blatsky sent me flowers every 539 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: year for twenty years, thanking me for taking the heat. 540 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: We became good friends, even though he was a notorious murderer, 541 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: a drug dealer, and a human trafficker. Wait to what 542 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: happened to Ivan blacks. Well, he's living the good life. 543 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: He got a plastic surgery, moved to Florida and changed 544 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: his name to al Gore. Okay, al Gore, not that 545 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: al Gore geez, but yes, al Gore. He liked the name. 546 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: I guess I probably shouldn't have said anything. There's still 547 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: a hit out in Blaskey, and and now they'll know 548 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: he's living in Florida as al Gore, not former Vice 549 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: President Al Gore, who by all accounts as a humanitarian 550 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 1: and pretty good guy, but just plain old golf playing 551 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: pool side, sitting al Gore. I feel like we maybe 552 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: got off on a tangent. Definitely did I know you hate, 553 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: but you made me do it. The woman who came 554 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: at me with a knife and throwing stars and spikes 555 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: in her shoes was a professional killer, trained in martial 556 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: arts and was as cold blooded as they. So you 557 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 1: just slapped her in response back to tripped her as 558 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: she was lunging towards me, and yes, I got a 559 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: quick chop in as she was going down. Unfortunately for her, 560 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: she fell on one of her own knives and bled 561 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: out on my entrance. Baxter and I wrapped the body 562 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: in a sheet, with some rocks, and we rode it 563 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: into the Pacific and dumped her in the water. I 564 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: don't know how to talk about you disposing of a body, 565 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: but let's just we've wandered so far off from today's topic. 566 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: Let's just try to get back to it. Did you 567 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: think the story ended there, because that's not the end 568 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 1: of the story. No. Several years later, a poor Russian 569 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: man claiming to be her husband appeared at my doorstep. 570 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: I invited him in naturally. Yes, he had learned from 571 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: Russian authorities that a well respected news man and his 572 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: dog had killed his wife. He wasn't looking for revenge. 573 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,919 Speaker 1: She was only looking for a momento, something he could 574 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: remember her by, because they were very much in love. 575 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: I have a soft spot for lovers and and love, 576 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: as you know, But I'll confess I had no such 577 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: memento to give the porcel. However, thinking fast, I handed 578 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: him an unopened can of Baxter's dog food and said 579 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: with all conviction that his wife had asked me to 580 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: give this can of dog food to her beloved husband 581 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: if he ever came looking for her. That was the 582 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: best you could think of. Well, I was thinking on 583 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,280 Speaker 1: my feet, but here's the thing. He broke down, sobbing 584 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: in my arms, clutching the can of dog food like 585 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: it was a human heart. And in some ways it 586 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: was a human heart. It was all I had left 587 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: of his great love. In another way it was it 588 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: was just a can of dog food, Carolina, I leave 589 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: you with this. Love is strange. It's an all encompassing 590 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: feeling of human purpose. It centers us, and it's perhaps 591 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: the only reason we're here on earth. It is also 592 00:37:46,719 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: a can of dog food. Okay, So what about Oh 593 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: what about joy? This the topic today's podcast was supposed 594 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: to be about joy, and you haven't really explained what 595 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: it is or how to get it. How the hell 596 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: should I know? I play the flute, I swim in 597 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: the nude. I take surfing lessons from an old woman. 598 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: I drink scotch and sit for hours in my car, 599 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: trying to look like an undercover cop. I go to 600 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: the zoo and watch Cheetah's pace up and down. I 601 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 1: climb water towers and yell out my name. I build 602 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: dreamcatchers and collect old lanterns. I read about vikings, I 603 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: run backwards through malls. I eat anything that looks like chilli. 604 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: I write poetry. I danced like Pola Abdul, I enter 605 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: illegal street racing competitions. I'm recognized as one of the 606 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: world's best bird watchers. I pleasure myself. Yes, I pleasure 607 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 1: my wife. I love dogs. I love flowers and songs 608 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: about flowers, and I love love. And that's me in 609 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: a nutshell. I have no idea what brings other people joy. 610 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: I only hope everyone finds as much of it as 611 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: I have. So there's no way for someone to find joy. 612 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:18,720 Speaker 1: There's no universal rule. No, there is not. I'm sorry 613 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: if I mislead everyone. You definitely did. However, there is 614 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: a trick I learned many years ago that will make 615 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: it easier for you to experience joy. Okay, what's that? 616 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: Stay classy. I'm Ron Burgundy. Thank you for listening to 617 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: today's podcast as