1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: The Action Network podcast Action. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: All right, here we go from the test throwing out 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: so spect we're saying it's a cash touchdown. That's all 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 2: we see. Most gamble is when they go to gamble, 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: they go to win. That's incredible. 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 3: Being bank small banks, I like to make money. 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: All right, this is the ultimate combine. 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 3: If you want to fall. 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: And we are underways. 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Auction Network Podcast presented by DraftKings. I 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: am your host, Evan Abrams, and I am joined by 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 3: Brandon Anderson for our NFL recap show. We will discuss 13 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 3: everything we saw today in NFL Week nine and look 14 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: ahead briefly to Monday night's game. Plus we'll get Brandon's 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 3: hot read for next week. Before we get started, I 16 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: will give you my big stat of the day now. 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: I tweeted this out. Usually it's like a gambling staff 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 3: and there is a really good stat we'll talk about later, 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 3: but I think this one kind of trumps everything from 20 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: the day, which is in today's loss against the Bills, 21 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes completed fewer than fifty percent of his passes 22 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 3: forty four percent for the first time in his career 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 3: one hundred and forty two games, Okay. Mahomes's last game 24 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: completing fewer than fifty percent of his passes came as 25 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: a backup quarterback against TCU in twenty fourteen when the 26 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: Texas Tech team gave up eighty two that game, eighty 27 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: two points absolutely ridiculous, but nonetheless, and we'll talk about 28 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: this in a second, but Brandon, I just want to 29 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: bring you in like right now, so when you talk 30 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 3: about this game Bills Chiefs. Now we're going to talk 31 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: about in a second after Sunday night football, But off 32 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: the bat, what do you quickly make of what happened today? 33 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think the Bills did the thing that everyone 34 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: wanted them to. They ran the ball, They beat them 35 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: the way that people have been saying for years, this 36 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: is how you're supposed to beat the Chiefs, and the 37 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: Bills actually stuck to it. And frankly, for all the 38 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: Bills and Chiefs games we've had that have been awesome, 39 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: this was kind of a very ordinary feeling football game. 40 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: Like it's never ordinary, it's Alan Mahomes. But on a 41 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 2: day where we had, like we're going to get to 42 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: all sorts of other games with crazy finishes and huge 43 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 2: upsets and everything else, this was kind of like a 44 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: normal football game, and Alan was awesome. Mahomes was not 45 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: good enough, and yeah, the Bills continue to cook. We'll 46 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 2: get to this stat later on five straight regular season 47 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: wins against the Chiefs. Of course, they have lost all 48 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: four postseason games against the Chiefs in that span, so 49 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 2: let's see if they could carry this over for next time. 50 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: It's kind of like the other stuff with the Bills. 51 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: Great job, but will it matter when it counts? And 52 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: we got another one today, I feel like. 53 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is from Scott Kasmar on Twitter. He's a 54 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: good follow, but most consecutive games in NFL history completing 55 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: fifty percent passes or more. Mahomes had won forty one 56 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 3: before today, second most of the record. The record ben 57 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: Roethlisberger one ninety one, and that was to end his career, 58 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 3: which is an absolutely ridiculous stat. But nonetheless, I think 59 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: we should keep brawling here so we can go to 60 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: Sunday Night Football where Seattle wins the game thirty eight fourteen. Honestly, 61 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 3: don't even the line closed two and a half for 62 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: Seattle and forty seven and a half game ends up 63 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: going over. The story up to the injury was a 64 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 3: bunch of different things, but to me, Jaden Daniels's injury 65 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 3: now at the end of the game becomes probably the 66 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 3: topic of conversation because it's the only thing that really 67 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: changes for me. Seattle absolutely dominant on the road, ten 68 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: straight wins. I believe only two head coaches started eleven 69 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: and one on the road, him and McVeigh. Nice list 70 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: for Mike McDonald's, but either way, Seattle continues to do 71 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: their road thing. Jayden Daniels being done and Washington being 72 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: three and six probably the story because Marcus Mariota ain't 73 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: what he was, and even if he was what he was, 74 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: I don't think he's helping them get back to three 75 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: back from three and six. But other than that first 76 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: half from Donald sixteen to sixteen, absolutely ridiculous. Four passing 77 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 3: touchdowns in the first half. This game completely over before 78 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 3: it started. But we could talk all you want about Seattle. 79 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: I think the story is now Washington. 80 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the first half story was Seattle just 81 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: putting on an absolute show, just like literally, Sam Darnald 82 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: couldn't miss anything. That the biggest shock in the first 83 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: half was that Seattle didn't bother using a time out 84 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: with thirteen seconds left and it's like, but wait, but 85 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: Donald could get one more throw in, They'll probably get 86 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: a touchdown out of it. Like they just were unstoppable. 87 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: Shouts to Tory Horton and now our guys Stuggy and 88 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 2: Raybon and some of the guys that they were hyping 89 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: him big time coming into the year, and so he 90 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: was huge. He had two touchdowns. I don't know if 91 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: Cooper Cup's gonna get his job back as a second receiver. 92 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: It might be Tory Horton's job now. Jason Monster, like 93 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: he has been all season. Seattle's been a team that 94 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 2: we've been on, like show after show backing them. This 95 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 2: was our look ahead, this was our hot read. This 96 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: was over like halfway through second quarter. Sea scored like 97 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 2: one hundred points in a three minute span, and that 98 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: was that. And then we were like, all right, well great, 99 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: let's start the show early. Let's get this moving, and 100 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 2: we're kind of getting the years going behind the scenes. 101 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: Right about then, you said to the slack, looks like 102 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: we just got a new topic. And that was right 103 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 2: after the Jane Daniels injury, which I mean right off 104 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 2: the bat, you know this is going to be beat 105 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: into the ground this week, but it has to be 106 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: why are you playing Jane Daniels. It's a thirty one 107 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: point game with seven and a half minutes left. I'll 108 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: be honest, I didn't tweet it, so it's easy to 109 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: call fifty or at hindsight twenty twenty. But like and halftime, 110 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know, man, why is Jane 111 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: Daniels playing? Like you got no shot in this game? 112 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: And like, remember Washington got that touchdown right before the half, 113 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: and it kind of looked like, all right, well, maybe 114 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: they got something going. I wonder if that might have 115 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: cost him the season, Like if they just go in 116 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: skunked at the half. Maybe they just pulled him out early. 117 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: We didn't know if he'd even be ready for this game. 118 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: You got Detroit next week, which where we talked about 119 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 2: on our new look, We're gonna have some nice CLV 120 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: on that minus three on my guess, but get ready 121 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: for the season ahead. I wonder if getting that score 122 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: early kind of kept them out there too long. But 123 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. You can't make excuses for why is 124 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 2: Daniels out late in the game. Detroit next has to 125 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 2: mean likely three and seven, and this is not the AFC. 126 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: I think it's over for Washington. There are not a 127 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: lot of paths here. We saw how bad their pass 128 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 2: defense was Marshaun Lattimore, their only good corner goes out injured. 129 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 2: I think Tory Amos got injured as well in this game. 130 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: It's just it's very bad. It's not a lot of 131 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 2: good for Washington in this game. The only good perhaps 132 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 2: was it Bet that you were sweating coming in just 133 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: as we hit the show from the discord. You want 134 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: to tell our folks about that. 135 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I honestly don't even remember who it was, and 136 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: I have to, you know, thank them for it. But 137 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: someone found a nice little middle of Bill Merritt to 138 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 3: Courseky Marriott going over eleven and a half rush and 139 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 3: also under twelve and a half rush attempts, both both 140 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: at plus money, and he ended up closing at twelve 141 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: rush attempts exactly. You know, when you do these things, 142 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: especially when you're getting plus money on both sides, you're 143 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: doing it for fun. You can put a lot of 144 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: money on both sides if you can get it down, 145 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: and then if something like tonight happens, it's absolutely magic, 146 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: which was a really fun He had like seven and 147 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: then eight, and then night we came on, he had 148 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: ten and then he ends up twelve with Chris Rodriguez 149 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: getting a ton of carries at the end. But nonetheless, 150 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: I honestly the only the two things I had notes here, 151 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 3: Luke McCaffrey's injury in this game with Jade Daniels just 152 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: Washington over and over and over again. You mentioned some 153 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: of the other ones, but seem to be just depleted 154 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: at this point, And the McCaffrey injury early in the 155 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: game was like, all right, well, we already don't have McLaurin, 156 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: so it got late early for them. The only other 157 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: one and I'm gonna tweet this out in a little bit, 158 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: but the NFC West seems to be absolutely rolling right now. 159 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: They are twenty one and eleven against the spread as 160 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: a division this year, all four teams above five hundred 161 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: against the spread. They are seventeen and seven ats outside 162 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: of the NFC West, obviously, Arizona playing Dallas on Monday 163 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 3: night foot Baltimore night. We will see if that continues. 164 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: But kind of interesting. Nonetheless, but are you ready for 165 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 3: Casey Buffalo? 166 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think Seattle has a real claim as the 167 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: best team in the league right now, and if it's 168 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: not them, it might be a team in their division. 169 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: And that is the. 170 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: Earliest little spoiler alert I've given on a high day 171 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 2: to come like an hour from now. But stay tuned. 172 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: We might be coming back to this division multiple times here. 173 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe Seattle has the Rams and Niners coming up, 174 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: so we should see all of those good things coming up, 175 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: all right. Buffalo wins twenty eight to twenty one, beats 176 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 3: Kansas City, covers two and a half point home underdogs, 177 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: total goes under fifty three. I mean, I feel like 178 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: the best storyline here to try to learn something going 179 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 3: forward with both teams would be the fact that out 180 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 3: of nowhere something we hadn't seen recently. Mahomes and the 181 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 3: Chiefs offense just seemed to get stymied in this one. 182 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: They looked what I called uncomfortable most of the game. 183 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 3: I mean, he goes fifteen of thirty four, which we 184 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: mentioned off the top, pretty unprecedented for his career, but 185 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: no passing touchdowns, an interception, fifty seven passer rating, and honestly, 186 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 3: the other thing I looked at just one carry, which 187 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: is kind of unlike him in these types of games. 188 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 3: Usually trying to get yardage, trying to find first down, 189 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: scrambling a little bit, but there was just so much 190 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 3: pressure in his face the entire game. I felt like 191 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: it really changed everything about what their plan was and 192 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: what they wanted to do, from drive to drive. On 193 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: the other side, Josh Allen goes twenty three of twenty six. 194 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 3: I don't even need to tell you more than that, 195 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 3: threw a touchdown too. Rushing doesn't matter twenty three of 196 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 3: twenty six. He was as efficient as efficient could be. 197 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 3: But what do you take out of this game going 198 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: forward other than kind of Casey's offense just struggled and 199 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 3: that you know, did them in. 200 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had the stat about Mahomes only one rush 201 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 2: as well. Neither of these quarterbacks ran much today, so 202 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: I thought that was by design on Buffalo's part. Both ways, 203 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: I thought that they limited Mahomes kept in the pocket, 204 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: got under huge pressure. He was pressured on fifty three 205 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: percent of his dropbacks today. And here's a crazy stat 206 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: you gave how he was under fifty percent for the game. Well, 207 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: it's because of the pressure on those pressure plays. Mahomes 208 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 2: was three of sixteen completing passes three of sixteen for 209 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: sixty one yards and the interception. I think the offensive 210 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: line has to be a story here, and they're going 211 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 2: to the by, so maybe it's not a huge story. 212 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: Josh Shimmons, the rookie. We talked about him before the season, 213 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: We had their five hundred to one Rookie of the Year. 214 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 2: Bet he's not played for a while now they need 215 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: him back. It's pretty clear there Trey Smith is playing, 216 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: but clearly hurt. Maybe a couple of weeks off here 217 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: help him a little bit. The line was just not 218 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: getting the job done. We saw like Joey Bosa comes 219 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 2: free on one play, so free at the quarterback that 220 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: he just like stopped and turned back like, oh, I 221 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 2: guess maybe this was a run I missed. I was like, 222 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 2: oh no, he just was wide open and eventually Mahomes 223 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: end up completing a big fourth down conversion. But yeah, 224 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: the Chiefs offense not good here. Much maligned Bill's defense 225 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 2: that actually had a good game plan and brought the pressure, 226 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: and I thought Bill's offensively like, of course, Josh Allen's 227 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: gonna be the story. He's the MVP favorite. Three incompletions 228 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: all game, near perfection. Rip to the Josh Allen rushing 229 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: props for me, that's been my favorite. Thankfully, he did 230 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 2: find the end zone twice, so we got those to 231 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: kind of make up for it. But uist rushing attempts 232 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: UIs rushing yards of his career in the against the 233 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 2: Chiefs regular or postseason. But it's because they didn't need to. 234 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: They didn't need him to do that. James Cook twenty 235 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: seven carries one hundred and fourteen yards, not like crazy, 236 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 2: that's barely over four yards of carry. But here's what's happening. 237 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 2: And when we saw besides James Cook who dominated for 238 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 2: the Bills, it's the tight ends. Dolan k was huge. 239 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 2: We saw Dawson Knox get a big pass, saw Jackson 240 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: Jackson Hayes get a big pass. Buffalo tight ends got 241 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,599 Speaker 2: eight passes for one forty nine and a touchdown. I 242 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: thought that was a clear game plan where we kind 243 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: of said the same thing with the Seattle game we 244 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: just watched and they talked about on the broadcast. If 245 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 2: you can't stop the run game, then teams are going 246 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 2: to load up and go heavy in the run game. 247 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: More tight ends on the field. Now you match heavy, 248 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: and now you can't stop the pass game. And teams 249 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: are passing out of a run format. So the Bills 250 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: this game, we ran fifty two percent of the time. 251 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: That's way up from thirty eight percent in their games 252 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 2: against Mahomes the rest of their their games in the series, 253 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: and first down they ran seventy one percent of the time, 254 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: way up from forty two percent against the Chiefs. So 255 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: it's a huge tendency breaker because the Chiefs couldn't stop 256 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: the run. But then they also passed out of those sets, 257 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: and we saw early down passing when they did pass 258 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 2: for Buffalo seventy three percent success rate on twenty two 259 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: early down passes zero point six to two epa per play, 260 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: which is just like MVP obliterating you. Because Kansas City 261 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: couldn't stop the run, and then when they loaded up 262 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: to stop the run trying to make up for it, 263 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: then the Bills just passed right over top of them, 264 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: and I felt like Kansas City just couldn't find answers 265 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 2: from that. 266 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, it was third down and the pressure 267 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: you mentioned, which was the difference Buffalo seven of twelve 268 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: Kansas City three of thirteen, and you look at their 269 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 3: averages for this season, both about forty four percent that 270 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: was to me one of the big differences just overall 271 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 3: from drive to drive. Seven of twelve really efficient. Three 272 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: of thirteen just very unlike Kansas City. And we talked 273 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,599 Speaker 3: about this on the Best Bets podcast on Thursday, But 274 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: that number, when I said, mahomes five touchdowns, five interceptions 275 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,359 Speaker 3: in the previous six games under pressure against Buffalo completely 276 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 3: what came to happen today, I mean, add another one 277 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 3: to it. Last seven games now five touchdowns, six picks. 278 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: It is the way Buffalo has gotten to him. And 279 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: in the playoffs, like we said, turnovers just seemed to 280 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 3: be there and then they found magic in the end. 281 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 3: Today there was just not enough magic. I mean, that 282 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 3: was too much of a deficit. Kansas City made their run, 283 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 3: but Buffalo did the job in the end. But the thing, 284 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 3: I mean, we both I tracked this bet, we both 285 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 3: lost this bet. Buffalo didn't add on in the fourth quarter, 286 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 3: Like there wasn't an extra touchdown, there wasn't more offense. 287 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: They at the end of the game. It just kind 288 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 3: of fell in their lap and Kansas City didn't have enough. 289 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: But to me, it wasn't like I came away with 290 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 3: this game being like, oh my god, Buffalo absolutely dominated. 291 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 3: Like I think Kansas City made some mistakes, and it 292 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 3: still makes me feel like there is the opportunity for 293 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 3: the inevitable if they were to meet in the playoffs again. 294 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: I will say this, I don't know if you looked, 295 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: you see what Kansas City? So right now, Kansasity out 296 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 3: of the playoff picture at the current moment. Do you 297 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 3: see their odds to make the playoffs at the moment, I've. 298 00:14:58,720 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: Not seen it. 299 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: What do you think? Do you want to take a 300 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 3: guest room to tell you? So? 301 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: I have the note also that they're out of the playoffs. 302 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: They start today and Baltimore coming on strong. So there's 303 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: a team charging from behind, although admittedly they're behind. That 304 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: they're out right now for Jacksonville and the Charges which. 305 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 3: They lost to Jacksonville. They did lose to jacks. 306 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: Crille, true, true, and they will play. They lost the Chargers, 307 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: so they lost both of those teams. I mean, I 308 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: don't think books want our money on Chiefs to miss 309 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: the playoffs. I'm gonna still say Chiefs make playoffs minus 310 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: two fifty. 311 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: It's six fifty plus four forty on the no, I'm 312 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: sure you could find a better price. But that is 313 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: about what it is right now. I'm telling you, I 314 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 3: mean they are super uber talented on offense. I think 315 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: today was a blip on the radar based off of 316 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 3: all the weapons they have. But Chargers playing well Denver 317 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: winning games, maybe you and I believe they shouldn't kind 318 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 3: of interesting. 319 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: By the way, Canaday into the bye week then to 320 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: Denver coming out of the by that suddenly is almost 321 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: a must win game for this team given everything that 322 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: we're saying. They got both Denver games left. They are 323 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: now two full games back in the division. They've lost 324 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: division games, they've lost division game. I forget if they've 325 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: lost more than one. I think just the one. But 326 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: they got to go to Denver where it's never easy. 327 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: And Denver, for all the slander that we give them, 328 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: is playing in coin flips sort of games. Well, the 329 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: Chiefs can't afford coin flips right now. They need to 330 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: just go get wins and look for all the things 331 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: that we're saying. The Chiefs got the ball back with 332 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: what like twenty two seconds left in this game against 333 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: the Bills. We all watched thinking like, oh my gosh, 334 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: Mahome's gonna do the thing again, Like we still thought 335 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: it was right there, even though they kind of got 336 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 2: mostly dominated in this game. The Bills had like one 337 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: hundred extra yards and we're in control all the way, 338 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: and still every Buffalo fan is grateful. You mentioned both 339 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: teams did not score in the fourth quarter for only 340 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: the second time out of ten. That's because the Bills 341 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: wound the clock down, ran like scaredy cats into the 342 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 2: line like four times in a row, and then kicked 343 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: a field goal that started off the upright. Otherwise we 344 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 2: would have cashed down. Anyways, they were just like, just 345 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 2: please the least seconds possible against Patrick Mahomes. We've done 346 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: this dance before. And then they still like immediately complete 347 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: a pass down the field and had another couple of shots, 348 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 2: Like if there was one less running play for the Bills, 349 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 2: one more time out for the Chiefs and they get 350 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 2: like thirty seconds more. I think we're watching overtime, like 351 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: this is what we watch in this rivalry despite everything else. 352 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: So I don't know, like we just watched the game, 353 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 2: but if the playoffs started tomorrow and the Chiefs were 354 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: in it and playing the Bills, who's taking the pills? 355 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: Like we've watched this matchup over and over So how 356 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 2: do you do those two parts. We're probably gonna have 357 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 2: to come back and make that decision sometime in January. 358 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: The game most likely won't be in Kansas City, though, 359 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 3: so you'll at least have that in your back pocket 360 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 3: to consider. MVP odds. Last time I looked, Josh Allen 361 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: plus one fifty, Drake May four to one, Patrick Mahomes 362 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 3: plus four fifty, Matthew Stafford five to one. Could have changed, 363 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 3: but that's what I looked at about Sunday Night football. 364 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 3: So Pat moved back a little bit. Josh now getting 365 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 3: closer to even odds after the performance today. But Drake May, 366 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 3: what a story? All right, let's keep rolling here. So 367 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 3: Bears Bengals, Bears win the game forty seven forty two, 368 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 3: Bears end up covering minus three on the road. Total 369 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 3: goes over fifty one and a half for today. I 370 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 3: feel like it's probably worth as we go game to 371 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 3: game to kind of just get some injuries out of 372 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 3: the way. Cole Comet leaves this game with a concussion 373 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 3: to one thing to look forward there. But the story 374 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 3: to me was just Joe Flacco and kind of what 375 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 3: he's bringing to Cincinnati's offense from week to week. We 376 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 3: can talk about their overs, we could talk about all 377 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 3: different types of things, their defense and all this, you 378 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 3: know whatever, But four hundred and seventy yards, four touchdowns, 379 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 3: ten yards per attempt. This game just had a perfect 380 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 3: combination of chaos. Eighty nine points. Each team had seven 381 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 3: plus points in every quarter. And then you look at 382 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 3: Cincinnati kickoff return for a touchdown, block field goal, on 383 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 3: side kick recovery, five hundred yards offense, two wide receivers 384 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 3: with one hundred plus yards, fifteen points scored in less 385 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 3: than a minute forty two in the game, and they lost. 386 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: I mean, that is the epitome of what Cincinnati has 387 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: brought to the table from the defensive side in all 388 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: of these shootouts is they can't find the stop at 389 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 3: the end of any of these games. It is absolutely 390 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: goddamn ridiculous. What can you What did you see today? 391 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 3: And what can you take forward? 392 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, this is a more of a what did 393 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: we see today than what are we taking away? Game? 394 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: But we just saw so much today that how can 395 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 2: this not be up near the top of our rundown. 396 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: So the Bengals returned the opening kickoff for a touchdown. 397 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,479 Speaker 2: So run off the bat. We're already getting crazy out 398 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: of the gates. The Bears have four different players attempt 399 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: to pass. Caleb Williams catches two passes today per Stadhead, 400 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: the first basically non slash weapon whatever sort of quarterback 401 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 2: in history to do that. I did find out, by 402 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: the way, this is a side not looking for this. 403 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: There's a game in December two thousand and six where 404 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: Josh McCown. Yeah that Josh McCown caught three passes in 405 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: a game. He was the backup for the Lions and 406 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: there were shortened receivers, so he apparently volunteered to be 407 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: the third receiver for the game and he caught three 408 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: on the day. Didn't even attempt to pass all year. 409 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 2: Good for you, Josh McCown. Caleb Williams, maybe that's the 410 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: next in line for him. I'm mad over here. We 411 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: give Outdandre Swift props. We're hitting the overs, we're hitting 412 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 2: the escalator. Swift goes out so we can get to 413 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 2: get on it, and Kyle mnung I comes in puts 414 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 2: up one hundred and seventy six yards on the Bengals 415 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 2: because that's what everyone's doing on the Bengals, and then 416 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: the game just got ridiculous late. So fast forward to 417 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: thirty four to twenty seven. The Bengals miss the field goal. 418 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: The Bears are trying to wind the lead. DJ Moore 419 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: on an end a round goes sixteen yards, stretches the 420 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: ball out like we know, don't stretch the ball at 421 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: the goal line you're protecting a lead, and he fumbles 422 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 2: it out the back of the end zone. So the 423 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: Bengals all a challenge to try to get the ball 424 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: off the bumble, and during the Bengals challenge, they rolled 425 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 2: that the Bears scored a touchdown. So the Bengals challenge 426 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: themselves out of a possible turnover into a Bear's touchdown, 427 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 2: and then Flaco throws what we all think is a 428 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 2: pick six. Right, there's under three minutes left. The scoreboard 429 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 2: literally says forty seven to twenty seven. They rule the 430 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 2: guys down by contact. Then we get all the Bengals 431 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: touchdowns late, touchdown, go for two. We're seeing the analytics 432 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: when you see why you go for two because it 433 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 2: looked like the Bengals would then get the next touchdown, 434 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: get the one point and lead by one. That looked 435 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 2: like they would have won that way. They did not, 436 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: but they recovered the on side like you said, it 437 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: did not even go ten yards, but it hits the 438 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: Chicago player. They get the touchdown and all the Bear 439 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 2: like I'm just like as a Vikings fan, Vikings win today, 440 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: Packers lose, lines, lose, and then like the hometown Bears 441 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 2: are gonna collapse and do the Washington Hill Mary scene 442 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: all over again, like I'm ready for just glory out here. 443 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 2: But then the Bears get the ball back and the 444 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 2: Bengals begal again and they throw to Coaston Loveland deep 445 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: you said Cole Kamet's hurt Loveland, the rookie tight end. 446 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: The two safeties for Cincinnati are like both too deep. 447 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 2: They literally crash into each other and fall over, and 448 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: Loveland les right through all the way to the end zone. Honestly, 449 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 2: I kind of thought that the Bengals might scork and 450 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 2: after that too somehow, just a ridiculous game. Flacco, you 451 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 2: gave the numbers. Four hundred and seventy yards is a 452 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: career high for him at age forty, by almost one 453 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 2: hundred yards. His previous career high was three eighty nine. 454 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 2: So at age of forty, he goes out and top 455 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: set by what is that eighty one yards good for 456 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 2: Joe one thousand yards combined of offense five seventy six 457 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: for Ben Johnson's Bears. Both teams averaged seven point six 458 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: yards of play. Just just crazy, crazy numbers and stats 459 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 2: from this game. I had the same Cincinnati stat. You 460 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: had a couple other Bengal stats. They had ten plays 461 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 2: this game of twenty or more yards, ten most team 462 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: all season and they lost the game. Their defense at 463 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 2: the worst EPA per drive allout in any game by 464 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 2: any defense all season. And that's just the continued story 465 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 2: of the Bengals. And by the way, five wins for 466 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: the Bears is tied to the top of the division. 467 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: Bears island back on again. I don't know. 468 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 3: To me, this is the stat and I look at 469 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 3: the standings right now, but the forty nine Ers, the Vikings, 470 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 3: and the Bengals are all undefeated in division. And to me, 471 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 3: they're all like third or fourth in their own divisions 472 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 3: in terms of record, but undefeated in their own division. 473 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 3: Right now, some of this stuff is a little wonky, 474 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 3: and I think it's going to, at least for one 475 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 3: of those teams come back to bite some of those 476 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 3: division leaders because you've got some weird things going on. 477 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 3: That's number one. When you look at some of these 478 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 3: games week to week. This was my note number two, 479 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 3: And I'm just curious, like watching the Bears. We watch 480 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 3: almost all the games here, so when you're watching the 481 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 3: Bears specifically, the thing that drives me absolutely bonkers. And 482 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 3: I'm sure anybody who's from Chicago watch the Bears all 483 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 3: the time, that's exactly what I'm talking about. But Kayleb 484 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 3: Williams is like need to scramble, run around chasing his 485 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 3: tail in the pocket, where like he feels like he 486 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 3: like moves quickly with his feet and scampers and like 487 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 3: feels like he's getting scared and doesn't allow anything to 488 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 3: like start in the offense. It just it's so frustrated 489 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 3: to watch because you see it happening and he's like 490 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 3: running around from his blockers, and I feel like he's 491 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 3: making it so much harder on his team to like 492 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 3: have like a methodical offense. Like I don't I don't 493 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 3: want him to be Jared Goff, but god, he has 494 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 3: to do that better because watching them week to week, 495 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 3: it is so frustrating to have to like every single 496 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 3: play is him rolling left or right and throwing to 497 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 3: one of his wide receivers as he's like diving out 498 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 3: of balance. Uh yeah, I mean, what do you think 499 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 3: about that? 500 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: That happened on literally the three penultimate plays that he 501 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: ran before the touchdown, like first, second, third down. Is 502 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: Caleb Bolliams running around like a chicken with the head 503 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: cut off, like running rice, like spinning around back left 504 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 2: into the pass rush. I'm screaming at the TV. Throw 505 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: the ball, throw it away like yourrect I mean, Parson, 506 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: the lines flashbacks over here, which is just you can't 507 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 2: hold the ball that long. You gotta have some version 508 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 2: of an internal clock. He took off on one of them, 509 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: scrambled that at least picked up like decent yardage. But 510 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: even that not a good play because you're out of time. 511 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 2: You got to get the ball down the field. They 512 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 2: got completely bailed out by awful Bengal safeties running into 513 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: each other. I mean, maybe just being that far deep, 514 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: you're probably at least getting the pass to Loveland, even 515 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: the completion, giving you a shot at a field goal there. 516 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: But look, the Bear's missfield goals. Earlier in the game. 517 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 2: They had a field goal where I was like, oh, 518 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: that must have got blocked. No, no, he just kicked 519 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 2: it sideways in like fifteen yards short of the end zone. 520 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if I've seen the kick that bad 521 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: this season, especially on a day where we broke an 522 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 2: NFL kick record in another game coming up, but the 523 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 2: Kleb Williams thing is insane, and there's a lot of 524 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 2: dialogue about Caleb Williams. Of course, he's the number one 525 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: pick from last year, so we got to talk about it. 526 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 2: If you take out the Cowboys game, and that counts 527 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 2: kind of what's the Cowboys? A lot of quarterbacks that 528 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 2: look good against the Cowboys. You take that game out, 529 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 2: the numbers are not great, and the film and the 530 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 2: eye test has not been great. And it's early, it's 531 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 2: too early to panic, and they are winning Chicago. You 532 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 2: have your coach, you have a system, you're feeling good. 533 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 2: I'm not feeling great about Cis. I'm not panicking. I 534 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: saw folks this week comparing him to well, maybe he'll 535 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 2: be the next Josh Allen. Okay, first of all, nobody 536 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 2: has nobody in history probably has outlier upside that Josh 537 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: Allen hit after it looked like he was just completely dead. 538 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 2: But also Kilbouns is not as bad as Josh Allen 539 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 2: was early in his career either, Like it's not terrible 540 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: right now. Like you said, could you just be Jared Goff, 541 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 2: Like can you just stand and throw the ball? Romo 542 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 2: Dunsay cut no passes today, Romo Dnsay cut nothing against 543 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: the tables in a game with a thousand yards of offense? 544 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: How do you not get your lead receiver the ball 545 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: once all game? That's gotta be somewhat on the quarterback 546 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 2: and Caleb's just running around. 547 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's enough of the Bears at the moment. 548 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 3: I think the other thing for me on this game 549 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 3: would be the Bengals over five and zero Bengals home 550 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 3: games this year, last sixteen Bengals home games, I believe 551 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 3: they're fourteen and two to the over. FLAC goes four 552 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 3: and over the over there, Like, I don't know what 553 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 3: they're going to do week to week in terms of 554 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 3: setting those lines, but everything we saw and at least 555 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 3: the last three weeks, I mean last three weeks, they've 556 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 3: scored one hundred and thirteen points. Their opponents have scored 557 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 3: one hundred and seventeen points. Like that is at absolutely ridiculous, ridiculous. 558 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: Here's the fun stat which I'll give you, and the 559 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 3: stat really to me means nothing, especially after what Cincinnati 560 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 3: went today, But it is a factual statement, which is 561 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 3: teams after playing the Jets are now ohero to eight 562 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 3: against the spread this season eighteen and thirty eight over 563 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 3: the last four years, So not just a this year thing, 564 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 3: eighteen and thirty eight after playing the Jets. Only thing 565 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 3: I'll say is maybe they don't get you prepared for 566 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 3: your next opponent. But absolutely ridiculous and just a fun 567 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 3: stack going forward. 568 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing to add to it, all right. 569 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 3: So before we move on, do not forget to sign 570 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: up for action Pro for real time pick alerds from 571 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 3: experts like Brandon Anderson, Chris Raybond Stucky, our entire Action 572 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 3: Network team. Plus you can access our pro projections powered 573 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 3: by Sean Kerner and our predictive analytics and just go 574 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 3: to actionework dot com slash pro. 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So we're going to start off with three 584 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 3: big upsets that kind of happened today, and I'll put 585 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 3: upset in parentheses, but mostly big upsets here. So we'll 586 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 3: start off with an actual upset, which was Minnesota beat 587 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 3: Detroit twenty seven to twenty four. Upset the Lions as 588 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 3: nine and a half point underdogs. Total goes over forty seven. 589 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: And a half. 590 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 3: I mean it even got up to nine and a 591 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 3: half this morning. This was not nine and a half 592 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: like a day ago. So there was some love for 593 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 3: the Lions heading into today. In terms of injuries from 594 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 3: this one, some big ones were Aaron Jones who left 595 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 3: his shoulder, Taylor Decker and Terry and Arnold leave with 596 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 3: a knee and a back injury, which for the Lions 597 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 3: who lose the game the Vikings, who are now I 598 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 3: believe two and zero in the division. Those are some 599 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 3: bad injuries for Detroit with Washington on deck, which is 600 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 3: now a bit of a luckier situation without Jaden. But 601 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 3: then you got Philly and the Giants. So Giants not 602 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 3: too hard, but that Philly game on deck, so we 603 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 3: will see there. In terms of how both of these 604 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 3: teams look today, I just feel like the spread was 605 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 3: unnecessarily inflated in this one. Like I went back to 606 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 3: September of twenty twenty two, that was the last time 607 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 3: the spread in this matchup was four or more. It 608 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 3: just felt high, unnecessarily. And we talked about it this 609 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 3: morning actually on Playbook Live with Grant, and we talked 610 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 3: about it on air as well. He liked Minnesota. It 611 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 3: just felt like Carson wentz and you know, Carson Wentz 612 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 3: better than anybody, Like, isn't that much of a downgrade? 613 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 3: And and understandably, Goff and Detroit had dominated right eight 614 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 3: to zero against the spread against the Vikings. But this 615 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 3: Vikings team is complete, Like they do a really good job. 616 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 3: They've just been missing the quarterback and granted his third 617 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 3: career start, but JJ looked pretty good. Like what do 618 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 3: you take out of this game? 619 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, McCarthy's stats on this game were literally identical from 620 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 2: as a week one game fourteen of twenty five. Both 621 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 2: games one hundred and forty three yards, both games, two touchdowns, 622 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: interception and then a rushing touchdown both games, and both 623 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: games go twenty seven to twenty four win in the division. 624 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: So your release similar start between these two. I saw 625 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 2: somehow JJ McCarthy is now the third quarterback in NFL 626 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: history that is a first round quarterback and one two 627 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 2: of us first three starts on the road in the division. 628 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: The other two guys Dan Marino and Patrick Mahomes. So 629 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 2: I guess McCarthy is a decent company. Now, I will say, look, 630 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 2: I'm always gonna be a little bit biased here as 631 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 2: a Vikings fan for or against. It's easy to come 632 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 2: out and like bury every like to bury everyone that 633 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 2: buried McCarthy after two games, Like there was talk this 634 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 2: week of a lot of talk about the Vikings messed 635 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 2: up the Sam Darnold decision. The Vikings should be trading 636 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: for quarterback, trade for Anthony Richardson, trade for Kirk Cousins. 637 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: I think the Viking's gonna wait and see what they 638 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: do with McCarthy. But I also don't think that this 639 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: result in particular should be like, oh, okay, so McCarthy's good. 640 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 2: The Vikings are great. This is a real thing again, 641 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: like this was Detroit. Really this was Detroit's offense not 642 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 2: quite being good enough, but a little bit fluky in ways. 643 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: Like they're usually really good on third down. There were 644 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: five of seven teen on third down of this game. 645 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: They're usually really good in the red zone. They're one 646 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 2: of three in the red zone. Almana Rossa Brown left 647 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 2: hurt for a little bit. I think he's fine. Pinesula 648 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 2: left hurt the style like probably the best lineman in football. 649 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: I think he's fine. Mahogany the left guard, he's out. 650 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 2: I don't think he is fine. So that's another injury 651 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 2: to add to the list. But I think the Minnesota 652 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 2: had a good defensive plan. Flores credit to him five sacks. 653 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: Minnesota's pressure finally got home. Getting Van Gigo back out there, 654 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 2: I think has helped them a lot. They also stopped 655 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 2: the run, which I wouldn't have expected in this game. 656 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: Lines ran twenty times sixty five yards only three point 657 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 2: three yards of carry. And you know, if you can 658 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 2: stop the Lions run and kind of get them off 659 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 2: script a little bit, that's the way that you get 660 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: to Detroit, get goth under pressure, get him off script, 661 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 2: and that's what Flores was able to do here. So 662 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 2: I don't know that I'm gonna draw too many huge 663 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 2: conclusions here. This rematch comes on chriss on Netflix, so 664 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 2: something for all of us look forward to next Lions vikings. 665 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 2: I will say, Detroit now five and three, who of 666 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 2: the Lions really beat right? Like we came into the season. 667 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: I was very low on Detroit coming in, all about 668 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 2: the coach brain drain, and then they beat up on 669 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 2: Chicago week two, but the Bears were not very good yet. 670 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 2: They beat up on Baltimore week three, but then we 671 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 2: saw the Ravens look really bad for a stretch with 672 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 2: everyone hurt. They beat the Box a couple weeks ago. 673 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 2: That was pretty good. But the Bucks are missing a 674 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 2: lot of dudes too, Like, you can only play the 675 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 2: teams in front of you. But five and three is 676 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 2: not that great of a record, and the Lions, we 677 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 2: kind of keep crowning them as this favorite, but you 678 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 2: can't really have a game like this if you like. 679 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 2: Look the score says they lose by three, but they 680 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 2: were really not even in the game for the most 681 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 2: But it's a pretty comfortable win for Minnesota. They do 682 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,919 Speaker 2: basically play the entire NFC East in the next month, 683 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 2: So maybe that's a get right spot that you mentioned 684 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 2: the Washington luck that they kind of get now. I'm 685 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 2: not out on Detroit, but I do think in this division, 686 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 2: suddenly everyone is right there. Like two weeks from now, 687 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 2: the whole division order could be upside down from what 688 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 2: it had been from what we thought Detroit and Green 689 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 2: Bay had, Minnesota clearly and last. Suddenly now it's all 690 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 2: right there. They're all at four and five wins, Vikings, 691 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 2: go Ravens, Bears, Packers, Seahawks next. I don't think they're 692 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 2: exactly out of the woods here, like they got work 693 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 2: to do, but this was a good place to start 694 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 2: the work for sure. 695 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the biggest thing from Detroit's point of 696 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 3: view is you can't win the game when both Sonic 697 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 3: and Knuckles are heads are held to a negative EPA 698 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 3: per play, both running and in the receiving game. Like 699 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 3: if they're both not going to do anything and not 700 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 3: add anything, they're just not going to find a way 701 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 3: to win. And I guess the positive and you kind 702 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 3: of just mention this. They lost by three, they were 703 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 3: in the game most of the time, and really nothing 704 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 3: went right. Like you said the five sacks, there was 705 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 3: also ten penalties, and again Montgomery and Gibbs doing virtually 706 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 3: very little and Montgomery fumbling, and like, there was a 707 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 3: lot that went wrong in this game. And when you 708 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 3: look at the biggest play of the game from EPA perspective, 709 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 3: the block field goal on Baits, it's twenty four to 710 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 3: seventeen Minnesota. Minnesota goes up ten after that after the block, 711 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 3: so to me, completely changes everything that's going on. One 712 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 3: note going forward though, again Minnesota plays Baltimore, Chicago and 713 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 3: Green Bay Minnesota seven and one to the over in 714 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 3: their eight games this year, so points whether it's from 715 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 3: flores a side on the defense or again just facing 716 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 3: these offenses, seems to be just showing up in Minnesota. Detroit, 717 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 3: all right, let's keep rolling. Pittsburgh beats the Colts twenty 718 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 3: seven to twenty. The best thing we can say is this, 719 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 3: it took eight games and the best unexpected offensive start 720 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 3: in NFL history before we got what we thought we 721 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,919 Speaker 3: would get out of Daniel Jones in like game one, 722 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 3: So at this point it's probably one of the more 723 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 3: impressive starts and we're all just gonna sit here and say, hey, 724 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 3: look told just so. But come on, I mean, at 725 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 3: this point, his start and that what the Colts have 726 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 3: done have been absolutely ridiculous. Today they just ran into 727 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 3: a busaw and that bussaw just looked like a Pittsburgh 728 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,720 Speaker 3: defense that was angry as hell, and them being angry 729 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 3: as hell led to a pass rush that caused Daniel 730 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 3: Jones to turn over the ball five times. I believe 731 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 3: you had three turnovers entering today all season. So to me, 732 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 3: I still think a bit of a blip on the 733 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 3: raidar for Indy, Like I still believe in what they're doing. 734 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 3: I still like the motion in their offense and the 735 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 3: play action and you know how well Taylor's played and 736 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 3: how well that's helped Daniel Jones. But they've got a 737 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 3: game in Germany coming up now against the Falcons, and 738 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 3: then they're bye week, and then they've got Kansas City 739 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 3: in Kansas City and then the Texans, which at that 740 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 3: point they'll get CJ. Stroud back and probably be healthy. 741 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 3: So that is a three game trip or a three 742 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 3: game trip four weeks that will really tell us what 743 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 3: Indie start was. 744 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna see both of these teams in Island 745 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 2: games next week. We will start our Sunday with the 746 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 2: Colts in Berlin. We will end our Sunday with the 747 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 2: Steelers against the Chargers on Sunday night. So we're gonna 748 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 2: be watching both of these teams. And I don't know, 749 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 2: necessarily do we take away Oh yeah, okay, ro Ros 750 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 2: back again. We talked about it. I wasn't on at 751 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 2: this time. Gott be willing to miss every now and then, 752 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 2: and there it was shut up again. So is this 753 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 2: just the Tomlin voodoo or did Pittsburgh's defense figure some 754 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 2: things out or did the Colts offense get exposed a 755 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 2: little bit? I think we have to kind of take 756 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 2: all those into possibility. Colts offensive line really got dominated, 757 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 2: and they an argument, is maybe the best line in 758 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 2: the league so far. Pittsburgh's defensive front was supposed to 759 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 2: be the best in the league but hasn't been at 760 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 2: all September October and there's suddenly getting home and getting 761 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 2: pressure and taking sacks. Eight sacks the last two games 762 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 2: for Daniel Jones six the first six games combined, so 763 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 2: four per game the last two including that's a Tennessee 764 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 2: game in there. Is pressure to sack rate seven and 765 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 2: a half percent the first six games, thirty percent the 766 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 2: last two. So he's getting pressured because the line is 767 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 2: allowing it, but he's taking the pressure. And that's two 768 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 2: different things that he's getting under pressure now. But he's 769 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 2: also making mistakes. Five sacks, two fumbles, three interceptions. That's 770 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 2: ten n big mistake plays by your quarterback. And by 771 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 2: the way, Daniel Jones through fifty times in this game, 772 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 2: what are you doing? That is not the game plan 773 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 2: to have Daniel Jones during fifty times. It is Halloween weekend. Still, 774 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 2: I felt like Daniel Jones maybe turned back into a 775 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 2: pumpkin in this game. And I don't think it was 776 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 2: just this game. The way that we are seeing the 777 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 2: numbers from the last game as well, there is something 778 00:39:55,160 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 2: there that's trending the wrong directions. Certainly now look finished 779 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 2: with Winter sixty eight yards to two twenty five for Pittsburgh. 780 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 2: So it's the six turnovers that's the entire thing. But 781 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 2: on the one hand, my buddy CJ, who's a Steelers fan, 782 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 2: texting me six turnovers and a seven point win doesn't 783 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 2: necessarily mean you're good. It might actually mean that you're bad, 784 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 2: which I think is possibly true. And on the other hand, though, 785 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's getting these chances and the Colts are giving it 786 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 2: to them. And you know, we talked about this game before. 787 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,919 Speaker 2: I was on Tyler Warren and I made a whole 788 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 2: deal about Tyler Warren touchdown. Make sure you bet Tyler 789 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 2: not Jalen. It was a mortal Locke minus in affinity 790 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 2: that Jalen Warren was gonna score touchdown. You of course 791 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 2: had two touchdowns this game. Tyler didn't do crap. But 792 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 2: I think just you mentioned, like I said something like 793 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 2: I don't even know what the path is for rah Ra, 794 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 2: how would Pittsburgh win this game? And You're like, well, 795 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 2: I mean Daniel Jones And I was like, oh right, 796 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 2: the guy that we've just decided is kind of good now. 797 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 2: And Daniel Jones was old Daniel Jones in this game. 798 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 2: We keep waiting, I keep waiting, I guess I will say, 799 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 2: for the Colts to get exposed. I don't think this 800 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 2: was that. I think this is just a really bad 801 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones game. Well, a couple of the mistakes are 802 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 2: like tip passes and whatnot as well, but we'll see. 803 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 2: You mentioned the schedule coming up for Pittsburgh five and three, 804 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 2: big win that they needed. Here they go Chargers Bengals 805 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 2: Bears next. Those are pretty coin flippy games to me, 806 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 2: the way that the Steelers are playing, and they still 807 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:38,760 Speaker 2: had after that Bill's Ravens Lions Ravens again. So Pittsburgh 808 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 2: is not out of the woods either. I think possibly 809 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 2: this kind of steal of a win, this might be 810 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 2: our shot now to buy Baltimore Division or to sell 811 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh playoffs. I think this kind of free win that 812 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 2: they stumbled into. This maybe with the rough schedule coming 813 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 2: and all those early banked wins, this might have get 814 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 2: us a shot to get those Pittsburgh future as we've 815 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 2: been One thing I will. 816 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 3: Say this Chargers Bengals Bears seems like it's going to 817 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 3: be a bit of an easy sled for Aaron, so 818 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 3: he should be able to put points on the board 819 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,280 Speaker 3: against all three of those teams. I think Pittsburgh's defense 820 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 3: will be the question mark to if they go to 821 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 3: and one or how that three game set kind of goes. 822 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 3: I mean, today Aaron thirty two pass attempts in a 823 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 3: clean pocket came out in two point one to two 824 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 3: seconds on average, lightning quick. I mean, he is, and 825 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 3: that's part of probably the issue that Indy had in 826 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 3: terms of pressure today. I believe Rogers three pass attempts 827 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 3: under pressure in total in this game. It's going to 828 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 3: be impossible for defenses to keep up if he does that, 829 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 3: and against Cincinnati with maybe no Hendrickson against the Bears, 830 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 3: which we saw most of what happened today, and I 831 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 3: think the Chargers can be beat in that type of situation. 832 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 3: So it should be interesting going forward how that works 833 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 3: for the Steelers. 834 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 2: Anything else here, Yeah, just so we'll get to the 835 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 2: Chargers in a bet. But Chargers losing Joe Alt right 836 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,879 Speaker 2: before facing all this Pittsburgh defensive front not a great 837 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 2: timing for that one. So we're gonna see a lot 838 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 2: of that next Sunday night. 839 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the upset of the day, 840 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 3: Carolina the sad Panthers sixteen to thirteen cover as twelve 841 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 3: and a half point dogs on close. Total goes under 842 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 3: forty three and a half. I mean, there is a 843 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 3: number of different levels to this one, but going forward, 844 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 3: the Tucker Craft injury, which to his knee done for 845 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 3: the season, is probably the biggest issue to Green Bay. 846 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 3: Going into the weekend as a twelve and a half 847 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 3: point favorite, basically being able to tell everyone, like, guys, 848 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 3: every game that green Bay has paid up played up 849 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,879 Speaker 3: to this point, forget it. I promise you we're great. Well, 850 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 3: you lose as a twelve and a half point favorite, 851 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 3: and then you lose probably your best offensive target. Man, 852 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 3: this was a bleak week to have any investment in 853 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 3: green Bay going forward, because I think all you have 854 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 3: now are questions now. Matthew Golden also leaves this game 855 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 3: with their shoulder injury. I don't think it's anywhere near 856 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 3: what Craft is. I think he should be all right 857 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 3: week to week. The Craft injury is just ridiculous. I 858 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 3: mean that what he does for the offense and how 859 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 3: he probably makes it easier all around for love, but 860 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 3: all the pass catchers and the run game very difficult. Now. 861 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 3: The note that I had going into today that kind 862 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 3: of continued was the fact that Green Bay has just 863 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 3: been starting super slow six points, seven points, and six 864 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 3: points in the last three weeks. They are two and 865 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 3: six to their first half team total over this year, 866 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 3: so they just haven't been able to find points early 867 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 3: in games, which is put pressure on them later in games, 868 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 3: and I think that's what's happening now. Over the last 869 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 3: few weeks, they've been able to find points in the 870 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 3: second half. Today that wasn't the case. They get into 871 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 3: the red zone five times in this game, they go 872 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 3: one for five. They were seventy percent in the red 873 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 3: zone entering today. So I don't know, what do you 874 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 3: make from this game? And then what do you think 875 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 3: of the Craft injury? 876 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the Craft injury I think is huge. 877 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 2: I thought he was pretty clearly a top three tight 878 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 2: end so far this season, with a case for maybe 879 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 2: the best tight end on the season. I think he 880 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,399 Speaker 2: is other than Jordan Love obviously, he is their most 881 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 2: important offensive player. He is their best pass catcher, He's 882 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 2: the guy schematically that opens things up for them. So 883 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 2: I think that is a huge loss for me. I've 884 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,720 Speaker 2: had Packers in my top tier of contenders all season. 885 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 2: They go at least like a half step out of 886 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 2: that now, so they're not out of it. But this 887 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 2: is a really significant loss for Green Bay, especially for 888 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 2: an offense that has kind of felt stuck in the 889 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 2: mud for much of the season, even though the metrics 890 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,320 Speaker 2: are telling us otherwise. We keep talking about like the 891 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 2: dissonance there that I don't really see it, but I 892 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 2: guess the numbers tell me the offense is pretty good. 893 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 2: We've talked about the Packers a lot. They pay slowly, 894 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,240 Speaker 2: they play so slow, And this was my pick dropset 895 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 2: coming into the weak Panthers plus seven ability that what 896 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 2: if the team's played slow, what if both teams just 897 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 2: ran the ball it was really windy, got a lot 898 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,320 Speaker 2: of running, and that the Packers just keep letting teams 899 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 2: hang around. They have not won a game by more 900 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,320 Speaker 2: than ten yet this season. In this game, they're basically 901 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 2: their thirteen point favorites and then score thirteen, like you 902 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 2: can't do that. They didn't punt this game, and they 903 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 2: scored thirteen points against the Panthers, who were like one 904 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 2: of the worst defense in the league history a year ago. 905 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 2: The Packers had more than one hundred yards more than Carolina, 906 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,399 Speaker 2: but you mentioned one to five in the red zone. 907 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 2: They got two turnovers. They had the late turnover on downs, 908 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 2: which is one of the most depressing plays ever. Jordan 909 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 2: Love scrambles for like a year and then lost it 910 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 2: into the end zone for what should have been a 911 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 2: pick six for Carolina. But he's terrible play for everyone. 912 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 2: Green Bay missed a field goal in there, like you 913 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 2: could really try to put up the numbers they did 914 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 2: and not punt and score thirteen points and this look. 915 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 2: I've been very high on La Flur, but this now 916 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,840 Speaker 2: in their last eight games as more than a touchdown favorite, 917 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 2: Laflur is three and five, straight up, straight up, as 918 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 2: more than a touchdown favorite. If you bet the under 919 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 2: the underdog money lines, like we did with the panthersiness 920 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 2: one in those eight games, you are two hundred and 921 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 2: eight percent ROI getting back your money. That's Cleveland and 922 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,399 Speaker 2: Carolina now this year. Don't forget that's both New York 923 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 2: teams last year. This was the thing the Packers did 924 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 2: last year, and it keeps on happening. I saw a 925 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 2: crazy stat from CBS Sports Research. The Panthers have not 926 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 2: been a favorite yet in any game this season, but 927 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 2: are five and four. They're the second team ever since 928 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy you'd have a winning record through nine games 929 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:57,320 Speaker 2: despite being an underdog every single game, which is crazy 930 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 2: because they're a winning record and we're still not even 931 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 2: to really consider them as a playoff team in the 932 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 2: NFC because there's so many other options green Bay really 933 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 2: should be eight to No. You could argue they've got 934 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 2: the two terrible losses to Carolina into Cleveland they should 935 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 2: have won, and at the tie to Dallas that they 936 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 2: should have won. But they're not eight and oh, they're 937 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 2: five to two and one. They still play the Eagles 938 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,439 Speaker 2: next Monday. We've talked about that big game. They still 939 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 2: play the Ravens. And by the way, they still play 940 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 2: five of their six division games and a division that's 941 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,799 Speaker 2: looking like everyone's race into the finish line right now. 942 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 2: You asked earlier about Chiefs playoff odds. I've got a 943 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 2: note to take a look at Packers' playoff odds. I 944 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 2: do not think that they are a lock in any 945 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 2: stretch right now, and they should be. They should be 946 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 2: in that inner circle of contenders, and they just cannot 947 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 2: close teams out the way that they ought to. 948 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 3: Yes, it's a calendar turn. Of twenty twenty five, Packers 949 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 3: have been favored by seven points or more five times. 950 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 3: There now zero to five against the spread. This was 951 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 3: tie for the second biggest upset from a point spread 952 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 3: span point for the packersince nineteen seventy. They lost as 953 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,720 Speaker 3: a thirteen and a half point favorite in twenty eighteen 954 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 3: to the Cardinals, and also from a money line perspective, 955 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,879 Speaker 3: Packers were minus one thousand, biggest upset on the money 956 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,719 Speaker 3: line since Jaggs Bills in twenty twenty one. That was 957 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 3: a game that finished nine to six. The other one, 958 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,839 Speaker 3: and yeah, the other one that you alluded to, which 959 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 3: I think is I mean, it's it's probably Lafloor stat, 960 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 3: but it's not great for Love either. So Jordan Love 961 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 3: now two and two straight up as a double digit favorite, 962 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers thirty one and four in his career as 963 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 3: a double digit favorite. That Carolina stat that I had 964 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 3: as well, and I know I saw CBS put it out. 965 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 3: It's worth repeating. So five and four straight up been 966 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 3: a dog in all nine games, only the second team 967 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 3: since the merger two thousand and one Browns underdog all 968 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,919 Speaker 3: nine games and be over five hundred at this point. 969 00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 3: What they've done has been absolutely remarkable, especially with on 970 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 3: the road when everyone had seen how good they were 971 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:07,800 Speaker 3: at home. This win is pretty incredible in multitude of 972 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 3: different ways. And when you look at Bryce one hundred 973 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,879 Speaker 3: and two passing yards, eleven completions, a minus eleven point 974 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 3: five completion percentage over expected. Listen, green Bay gave this 975 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 3: game to Carolina. The stats amazing, but Carolina did not 976 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,879 Speaker 3: deserve to win this game at all. The top three 977 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 3: plays in terms of EPA in this game all in 978 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 3: the first half. Green Bay just handed them this game 979 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,400 Speaker 3: in the second half. Ridiculous. 980 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Rico Dadol ran well in this game. 981 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,399 Speaker 2: But like, we didn't really say much about Panthers player 982 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 2: in this game. We said a lot more about just 983 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,400 Speaker 2: the Packers not doing enough. So just a game that 984 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 2: you in a week where the Lions give a game 985 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 2: away and the Packers had a chance to really be 986 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,359 Speaker 2: in great position in the division. Don't forget they beat 987 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,359 Speaker 2: the Lions in week one, so they could have really 988 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,439 Speaker 2: made up ground here. Instead there's suddenly like a half 989 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 2: game out of last place. Basically, all right, let's keep 990 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 2: going here. Next section three wild endings. So we just 991 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 2: did three upsets. 992 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 3: Now let's do the wild endings, and we're gonna start 993 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 3: with a game that we were just gonna give you 994 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 3: the final score. I promise you we were just gonna 995 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 3: give you the final score, but based off out as went, 996 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 3: we had to give you more. So Jacksonville wins the 997 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,239 Speaker 3: game thirty twenty nine in overtime as a two and 998 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 3: a half point favorite on the close, so the Raiders 999 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,879 Speaker 3: get the cover. Total goes over forty three and a half. 1000 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 3: I only have a few things here, so I will 1001 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 3: give it you after But Cam Little on his own 1002 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 3: thirty nine yard line. It's a sixty eight yard field goal, 1003 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 3: obviously him standing on his own thirty nine when he 1004 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 3: kicked it, but a ridiculous picture. Nonetheless, I mean from 1005 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 3: Jacksonville standpoint, Brian Thomas gets hurt during this game. Obviously, 1006 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,880 Speaker 3: Travis Hunter now out four weeks. It just felt like 1007 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 3: they were looking for different options on offense at different 1008 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,800 Speaker 3: times in this game. I think the run game looked alright. 1009 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 3: But on the other side, Holy Brock Bowers. I mean, 1010 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 3: what the Raiders offense looks like week to week with 1011 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 3: him out there versus with him not. I mean, just 1012 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 3: this season, they're averaging twenty one point two points per 1013 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,440 Speaker 3: game with Bowers in the lineup and eight point seven 1014 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 3: in the three games without him. So thirteen targets, twelve receptions, 1015 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty seven yards, and three touchdowns. But 1016 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 3: what do you even make from jackson Golden Raiders. 1017 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't take the Bowers escalator high enough. Apparently 1018 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,879 Speaker 2: we got the yards, we got the ninety for six 1019 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,359 Speaker 2: to one. We got eight receptions at five to one, 1020 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 2: ten receptions thirteen to one. I needed more floors, like 1021 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,400 Speaker 2: I needed to take the escalator even a higher. I 1022 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 2: don't know what happened here. Didn't even get any of 1023 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 2: the touchdown plays. So welcome back to Brock for sure. Yeah, 1024 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,439 Speaker 2: crazy game because look, this is in the afternoon slate. 1025 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 2: We're all watching Chiefs Bills. Let's be honest. Like I 1026 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,280 Speaker 2: even turned off red zone. I put that second screen, 1027 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 2: was like, just give me all Chiefs Bills, give me 1028 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 2: the whole commentary. I want every play in this one. 1029 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 2: And then like Ram Saints, that is one of our 1030 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,200 Speaker 2: skips today. You'll get to that one in a minute. 1031 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 2: But it felt like both these games are just like, 1032 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 2: all right, that's it. There's only two other games. Nothing's 1033 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 2: happening in them. We'll just watch Mahomes and Allen showdown. 1034 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 2: And suddenly, so this game, I had the under on 1035 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 2: it at under forty five and a half. We got 1036 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 2: a little value on it. Into the fourth quarter, it's 1037 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,959 Speaker 2: nine to six Raiders. Nothing is happening in this game, 1038 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 2: including not a lot of brack powers until late. Then 1039 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,719 Speaker 2: into the fourth quarter, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, Fueld goal 1040 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 2: sends us to overtime, where then we make NFL history 1041 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,360 Speaker 2: two touchdowns and overtime for what I think is the 1042 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 2: first time ever because we just got this rule. Normally 1043 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 2: a touchdown ends it. Now for the first time, touchdown 1044 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,799 Speaker 2: an extra point does not end it. The Raiders get 1045 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 2: the ball back with like barely over three minutes, they 1046 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,239 Speaker 2: go down, they get the touchdown, they go for two 1047 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 2: in overtime for the win because there's like twenty seconds left, 1048 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,480 Speaker 2: so you can kick the extra point and tie. But 1049 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 2: you're the Raiders, like, well, what do you want to 1050 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 2: tie for? What is a tie? Approving to anybody? Good 1051 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 2: on them? Going for the win? They didn't get it. 1052 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 2: They get the pass knocked down at the line. But 1053 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,560 Speaker 2: as far as I can tell from Stadhead at Pro 1054 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 2: Football Reference, this is our first ever in history one 1055 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 2: point game and overtime. It literally wasn't possible until recently. 1056 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,919 Speaker 2: We've had three two point games in overtime. I don't 1057 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 2: remember any of those, but imagine your team getting the 1058 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 2: overtime and losing on a safety like that, that's like 1059 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 2: a season. I don't know how you get over that. 1060 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 2: This is our first ever and I fill overtime with 1061 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,800 Speaker 2: two touchdowns. It's our first day with two overtime touchdowns 1062 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,799 Speaker 2: since December twenty twenty two. Obviously those are in two 1063 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 2: different games, but just crazy finish that ended up. I 1064 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 2: think finishing after the Chiefs Bills game, like, I think 1065 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 2: we actually got to finish watching that one and then 1066 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,320 Speaker 2: flip over and I'm like, oh wait, there's still a 1067 00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 2: game on. Cool, what's happening over here? Craziness? So, I 1068 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 2: don't know. I'm not sure. The Raiders clearly don't matter 1069 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 2: right now. Jacksonville's five and three. They're pretty froddy five 1070 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 2: and three team, but in the AFC, I don't know, 1071 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,800 Speaker 2: like they suddenly screamed to me that, like with a 1072 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 2: soft schedule coming up, still they got Houston next, they 1073 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,240 Speaker 2: got the Chargers next. Those are both teams still trying 1074 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,800 Speaker 2: to fight for playoff positioning. I don't know if I 1075 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 2: really want Jacksonville around the playoffs, Like, do I really 1076 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 2: want this team accidentally going ten and seven and then 1077 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 2: like as the Chiefs or Ravens make their huge push 1078 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 2: at the end of the season, Jacksonville knocks them out 1079 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 2: for the seventh seed. I don't know if I need 1080 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 2: that in my life at the moment. 1081 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 3: Jacksonville does not have another primetime game the rest of 1082 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,239 Speaker 3: the year. You will see them at one o'clock, you 1083 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,359 Speaker 3: will see them at four o'clock. And honestly, even if 1084 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,279 Speaker 3: they sneak into the playoffs, which I maybe they'll catch 1085 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 3: the Colts, maybe they won't. But at this point they 1086 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 3: could get in a number of different ways, but you 1087 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,319 Speaker 3: won't see them in primetime and they might just roll 1088 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 3: under the raidar a Travis Hunter coming back at some point. 1089 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 3: There's a lot of season left here, so you know, 1090 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 3: I don't believe that Brian thomas injury is anything long term. 1091 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,160 Speaker 3: So I mean, I think they should have enough weapons 1092 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,399 Speaker 3: to continue doing what they're doing. And again I bet 1093 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 3: them the week against the Chiefs. Like I like what 1094 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 3: they put together. I'm just not the biggest fan of 1095 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 3: them as a favorite, so we will see how that goes. 1096 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 3: The other note I have here the Raiders man Pete 1097 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,440 Speaker 3: carroll streak of winning seven or more games is seventeen 1098 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,400 Speaker 3: consecutive seasons. I don't know if they're going to get 1099 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 3: there this year. The Raiders are just brock Bauers week 1100 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,399 Speaker 3: to week, and in that offense, maybe they score enough 1101 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,239 Speaker 3: points where they squeak it out, but seven to me 1102 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 3: is a little bit much, So I see that streak 1103 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 3: coming to an end. 1104 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 2: But anything else with this one, yeah, Look, if Jacksonville 1105 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 2: does make the playoffs, like minus one thousand, that they're 1106 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,760 Speaker 2: the opening playoff game that you're like, oh, the playoffs 1107 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,440 Speaker 2: are on, it's the fourth quarter. I didn't even know 1108 00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,200 Speaker 2: we started already. That's the game Jacksonville goes to play in. 1109 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,120 Speaker 3: But unfortunately they can't face the Texans because then you've 1110 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,880 Speaker 3: got three AFC South teams and the Texans are always 1111 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,880 Speaker 3: in that slot. Actually it's always Texans Bengals every year. TJ. Yates, 1112 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,320 Speaker 3: I believe starting that game, all right, Falcons Patriots. So 1113 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 3: Patriots win this game twenty four to twenty three. Atlanta 1114 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 3: covers the five and a half total goes over forty 1115 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,960 Speaker 3: five and a half. There was a lot of injuries 1116 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 3: in this game, which I think are worth discussing off 1117 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 3: the top here. But Kishan Boudi the hamstring, Christian Ellis 1118 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 3: with a hip, Christian Gonzalez left left with a head injury, 1119 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 3: and Bergern and Lindstrom on the offensive line for Atlanta 1120 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 3: were hurt as well. So both sides having issues in 1121 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:43,520 Speaker 3: this one. But it's the weird game where I feel 1122 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 3: kind of good about both teams. Like Drake May continued 1123 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 3: to be absolutely ridiculous. His performance was unbelievable again, even 1124 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 3: with an interception, He's got two hundred plus passing yards 1125 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 3: and one hundred plus passer rating now in eight straight 1126 00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 3: games this year, seventeen touchdowns, four picks, a nine yards 1127 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 3: per attempt with a seventy four percent completion percentage week 1128 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,640 Speaker 3: to week. Ridiculous. And here's the stat I was going 1129 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 3: through Drake May's game log and this is to me 1130 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:15,400 Speaker 3: when I say, okay, how has he performed first twenty 1131 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,520 Speaker 3: two starts? While in twenty one of those twenty two 1132 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 3: starts he has had an equal number of touchdown passes 1133 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:25,480 Speaker 3: to interceptions or better. So only in one start in 1134 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 3: his career has he had more interceptions and touchdown passes. 1135 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 3: To me, that's exactly what Drake May is week to week, 1136 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 3: and it's the reason why with a coach like Vrabel 1137 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 3: and the defense like they're going to be in every 1138 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:41,320 Speaker 3: single game, and even when the opposing quarterback has probably 1139 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 3: his best game of his NFL career, the Patriots still 1140 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,760 Speaker 3: find a way to win. And that's the way I 1141 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 3: have to look at this one. 1142 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Drake London was a monster in this game. So 1143 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 2: I don't even know if I'm going to give Pennix 1144 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 2: as much credit as just like I mean credit for 1145 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,360 Speaker 2: throwing the ball toward Drake London letting him do that 1146 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,960 Speaker 2: last yep, good enough times nine catches, one hundred and 1147 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 2: eighteen yards, three touchdowns. Atlanta could not run the ball. 1148 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,480 Speaker 2: Running backs had fourteen carries for fifty three yards. The 1149 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,439 Speaker 2: Patriots run defense has been great week after a week, 1150 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,920 Speaker 2: their pass defense not so much. And Drake London stats 1151 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 2: but they shut down there. I'm going to disagree a 1152 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 2: little bit on Drake. Matt did not think this was 1153 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 2: a very mvpgacor and he took He took six sacks. 1154 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,000 Speaker 2: He also had a really bad strip sack right before 1155 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,240 Speaker 2: the half that they basically gave. It was basically like 1156 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 2: a strip seven for the other team because Atlanta scored 1157 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 2: right after that, and that you know, almost cost them 1158 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 2: the game. Because it came down to it, Atlanta scores 1159 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 2: a touchdown with the final you know, a couple of 1160 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 2: minutes left, and then, of course, because it's the Falcons, 1161 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,600 Speaker 2: they missed the extra point and that's the final margin. Somehow, 1162 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 2: Atlanta I think punted from about the fifty with like 1163 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:52,960 Speaker 2: two minutes left. Look, the afternoon late slate was just 1164 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:57,080 Speaker 2: Chiefs and Bills. The early slate, everything was happening, and 1165 00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 2: so I'm like trying to watch what's happening in this game. 1166 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 2: It couldn't even make it of the quad box and 1167 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,200 Speaker 2: my YouTube TV second screen, and I'm paying attention like 1168 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,480 Speaker 2: red zone, like what happened with this game? And I 1169 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 2: just punted it away. They got fourth down. I like 1170 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,400 Speaker 2: the fifty and its fourth and twenty admittedly, but like, 1171 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,640 Speaker 2: you can't punt with two minutes left you're behind, and 1172 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 2: they just didn't get the ball back again after that. 1173 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,560 Speaker 2: So I don't understand what Rahie Morris is doing with that. 1174 01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 2: I think the Falcons three and five, I think is 1175 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 2: not really totally fair to them. They're a better team 1176 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 2: than that, but this is not the first game they've 1177 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 2: lost by kicking. Week one, they had that like kind 1178 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 2: of gimme field goal at the end of the game 1179 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 2: against the Bucks and they blew it. And this is 1180 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 2: like two games now they've given away on awful special 1181 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:43,000 Speaker 2: teams by DVOA, the Falcons, Bucks, and Saints in the division, 1182 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 2: those are the three worst special teams in the entire country. 1183 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 2: So I don't understand how what's happened in the division. 1184 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,760 Speaker 2: But in this particular game, I thought the real story 1185 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,480 Speaker 2: was late downs. Third down. Patriots convert eight of twelve, 1186 01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:00,520 Speaker 2: the Falcons were one of ten by success rate sixty 1187 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,120 Speaker 2: seven to twenty three percent success. That's your difference in 1188 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:08,760 Speaker 2: a one point game. And I think people are maybe 1189 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 2: gonna be a little too far ahead of the their 1190 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,320 Speaker 2: skis on the Patriots. I don't think this is quite 1191 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 2: an elite elite team yet. I think that the Falcons, 1192 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,320 Speaker 2: to me, are a hard team to bet on because 1193 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,400 Speaker 2: you never know what you're gonna get quarter to quarter, 1194 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 2: game to game. I think the Falcons could beat the 1195 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 2: Colts next Sunday, like if they show up and play 1196 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 2: the way they can. They've got the weapons to be 1197 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,640 Speaker 2: able to do that. We've seen their defense have really 1198 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,600 Speaker 2: good games and then we see them get shut out 1199 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,000 Speaker 2: by the Panthers and like no show in other games 1200 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:42,640 Speaker 2: so to me, the Patriots I think are kind of 1201 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,200 Speaker 2: a similar version of that that has had a little 1202 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,440 Speaker 2: bit stronger closes to games and gotten the results against 1203 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:52,120 Speaker 2: an easier schedule. But I don't think the Falcons are 1204 01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,480 Speaker 2: as bad as three and five. I'm not sure the 1205 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,960 Speaker 2: Patriots are as good as seven and two either at 1206 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,840 Speaker 2: this point. I think they're kind of just both around 1207 01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:03,080 Speaker 2: the middle. And Drake is obviously playing better than panis 1208 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 2: right now, but I probably will be looking for spots 1209 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 2: to fade the Patriots a little bit, just because I 1210 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:10,760 Speaker 2: think the hype is getting a little bit ahead of 1211 01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 2: where they're at right now. 1212 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,920 Speaker 3: When you talk about May's performance today, like overall compared 1213 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,960 Speaker 3: to everything else, you are mostly right in everything he 1214 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 3: did today, Like has it been up to the par 1215 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 3: of what he's done previous to this point. No, But 1216 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,880 Speaker 3: I think the fact that they won the game is 1217 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,960 Speaker 3: kind of masked by everything, like his MVP odds, Like 1218 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 3: everything you're going to see from like a market standpoint 1219 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,840 Speaker 3: looks a lot different if they kick the extra point 1220 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 3: and Atlanta maybe you know, gets a field goal and 1221 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,120 Speaker 3: they win in overtime or something changes in that respect. 1222 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,000 Speaker 3: So I do think the one point win kind of 1223 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:48,080 Speaker 3: puts lipstick on a pig a little bit here. The 1224 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,840 Speaker 3: other thing is this their schedule going forward to New 1225 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,480 Speaker 3: England in terms of strength of schedule and just win percentage, 1226 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 3: easiest in the NFL. Now they face Baltimore, they face 1227 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,400 Speaker 3: a few teams that maybe their record look a little 1228 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 3: bit different in a number of ways. So maybe not 1229 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 3: so much the easiest in the NFL. But the Patriots 1230 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 3: week to week they keep squeaking out. They're gonna end 1231 01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 3: up with a ton of wins and it's gonna be 1232 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,920 Speaker 3: very difficult for Buffalo to find their way over them 1233 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 3: if New England keeps finding wins. Tampa Bay Jets Baltimore 1234 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 3: next three games, but in Tampa in the in Baltimore, 1235 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:25,120 Speaker 3: so a little bit different there. Trying to think if 1236 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 3: I have anything else here, not really, I mean, to me, 1237 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,960 Speaker 3: this game just kind of about what Atlanta was able 1238 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,200 Speaker 3: to do through Drake London, and to me on New 1239 01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:39,080 Speaker 3: England side of the ball again, Traveon Henderson, I have 1240 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 3: no idea what to do there, and without Stevenson, I 1241 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,400 Speaker 3: just felt like they were kind of struggling there. They 1242 01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 3: even gave the other kid more carries, so obviously for 1243 01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:49,200 Speaker 3: Abel's going through something. 1244 01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I gave them the goal line look as well, 1245 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,040 Speaker 2: So tough look for fantasy football there. Travion's just not 1246 01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,840 Speaker 2: been able to show up for them, and the Patriots 1247 01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 2: are kind of like washing through the roster a little bit. 1248 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,600 Speaker 2: Still still train a couple guys away if a trade 1249 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 2: deadline is Tuesday, So we'll see what teams. You know, 1250 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,480 Speaker 2: we got some interesting results today. Who's gonna make a 1251 01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,960 Speaker 2: big move with all the injuries we keep bringing up? 1252 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 2: Who's gonna need to cover for an injury? We'll see, 1253 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,200 Speaker 2: you know, the Patriot's been making some moves to sort 1254 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,120 Speaker 2: of clear out some of the guys that have been 1255 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 2: talented but just not fitting into this new regime. So 1256 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,040 Speaker 2: we'll see if they have more to do there too. 1257 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,440 Speaker 3: All right, let's keep going here, Denver Houston. Denver beats 1258 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,840 Speaker 3: the Texans eighteen fifteen, covers plus one and a half 1259 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,600 Speaker 3: on the road. Total goes under forty and a half. 1260 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,880 Speaker 3: I asked the first question, was this game even on 1261 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,000 Speaker 3: red zone today? I would also say that about Jacksonville 1262 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 3: and the Raiders early on, but that game turned into 1263 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,920 Speaker 3: an absolute overtime shootout. So this game, to me, the 1264 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:50,040 Speaker 3: non show on Red Zone of the day. But aside. Again, 1265 01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 3: like the Washington game, the story should have been something else, 1266 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,280 Speaker 3: but it ends up being CJ. Stroud's concussion at the 1267 01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,960 Speaker 3: beginning of the second quarter. Davis Mills rested the game. 1268 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 3: It's three nothing Texans at the time of the injury, 1269 01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,600 Speaker 3: and Mills the rest of the game. Oh, I mean, 1270 01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,720 Speaker 3: he was just the game manager. Seventeen to thirty one 1271 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:12,080 Speaker 3: to thirty seven, no touchdowns, no picks, just two sacks 1272 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:16,880 Speaker 3: like he kept Houston around. The issue was two point 1273 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,960 Speaker 3: eight yards per rush for the Texans. They had twenty 1274 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,920 Speaker 3: eight rushes in this game. None went for nine plus yards. 1275 01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,920 Speaker 3: That is very difficult to do, but they did it 1276 01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,120 Speaker 3: and it was part of the reason why they couldn't 1277 01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:30,240 Speaker 3: find their way downfield. 1278 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 1: Uh. 1279 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,240 Speaker 3: Denver loses the turnover battle to nothing. Denver goes over 1280 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,040 Speaker 3: one in the red zone, Houston goes oh for three. 1281 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,000 Speaker 3: This game ends up being just an absolute mess that 1282 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,640 Speaker 3: bo Nicks finds his way late in the game. 1283 01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 2: Once again, Yeah, this was ugly. This was a really 1284 01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 2: ugly game. Two missfield goals to start the game and 1285 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,680 Speaker 2: then coming out a halftime we go punt field goal 1286 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,720 Speaker 2: four straight three and outs, then we get the one 1287 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:59,920 Speaker 2: touchdown the second half, and then seven straight punt drives 1288 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,520 Speaker 2: before the Broncos finally get the field goal to win 1289 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:07,080 Speaker 2: at the end. And it just like to me, like 1290 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,080 Speaker 2: the breaking bad They can't get getting away with us. 1291 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,360 Speaker 2: That's how I feel about Denver at this point. But 1292 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,440 Speaker 2: they just keep coming up with late wins. They are 1293 01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:19,800 Speaker 2: now for the season through three quarters minus one in 1294 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,920 Speaker 2: point differential, that is nineteenth in the NFL. In the 1295 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,280 Speaker 2: fourth quarter, they are plus fifty three, first in the league. 1296 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:31,880 Speaker 2: That's from Benjamin Solac So is that this is guts. 1297 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,320 Speaker 2: This is a team that knows how to close this 1298 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,600 Speaker 2: bo Nick's making plays when it matters. I think that's 1299 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,280 Speaker 2: a bunch of malarkey like that that screams to me, 1300 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,000 Speaker 2: a team that is as mediocre as they look for 1301 01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 2: three quarters. That's kind of getting some lucky plays and 1302 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,680 Speaker 2: making just the right plays late. But every year we 1303 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,800 Speaker 2: see a couple teams like that that seem like they 1304 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,520 Speaker 2: just have the magic touch right up until they don't anymore, 1305 01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:56,880 Speaker 2: and then they get exposed for what they've looked like 1306 01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,960 Speaker 2: most of the time. Like to me, I tweet this out, 1307 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 2: but this feels like the Tim Tebow Denver era all 1308 01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,120 Speaker 2: over again with just all these like horseshoe up your 1309 01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 2: butt wins that are coming through late, Bonnicks under fifty 1310 01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:12,880 Speaker 2: percent of his passes, completing this game, and the one 1311 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,840 Speaker 2: killer play, like it is often with Nicks, is with 1312 01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,960 Speaker 2: his legs. We mentioned with Atlanta, they lost the same 1313 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,600 Speaker 2: way they lost earlier this year with the miss kick 1314 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 2: to me. This was the Houston Monday Night game all 1315 01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:28,320 Speaker 2: over again. Remember Houston Box. They lose by one, They've 1316 01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:32,360 Speaker 2: got it late, Baker's under pressure, Baker escapes and has 1317 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,680 Speaker 2: the big run and that sets up the Tampa for 1318 01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,920 Speaker 2: the win. Here we are in this game. Bonis has 1319 01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,480 Speaker 2: the big run late. That's the only thing they really 1320 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:44,080 Speaker 2: did after seven straight punts to finally get a field 1321 01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,200 Speaker 2: goal out of it and go eighteen fifteen. A win 1322 01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,760 Speaker 2: is a win. I think Houston at three and five 1323 01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:51,800 Speaker 2: this kind of this could be the season like that. 1324 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,000 Speaker 2: They can't keep losing games this way. They have five losses, 1325 01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:58,040 Speaker 2: all by one score. But it doesn't really matter how 1326 01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,320 Speaker 2: much points they're by. I They're gonna keep losing game games. 1327 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,720 Speaker 2: This was a shot for them. If the Colts lose, 1328 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,600 Speaker 2: this is a chance to get within shouting distance in 1329 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,919 Speaker 2: the division and they didn't take advantage. So we saw 1330 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,880 Speaker 2: favorites lose today, but we saw some of these teams 1331 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,240 Speaker 2: trying to hang around also lose and not really take 1332 01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:19,280 Speaker 2: an opportunity. Easy under for Texans. Again, that was an 1333 01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,400 Speaker 2: easy hit for us. I'm a little upset. I wanted 1334 01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,840 Speaker 2: the mine shaft, tuck myself out of it, and this 1335 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,880 Speaker 2: would have been a pretty easy mind shaft as well, 1336 01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:31,639 Speaker 2: even indoors. Texans thirty two percent success rate on the game, awful, 1337 01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,759 Speaker 2: but better than the Broncos, which was twenty nine percent. 1338 01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:38,120 Speaker 2: Like to me, we know both these teams are supposed 1339 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:42,080 Speaker 2: to really get defense. Okay, great Texans defense, great, played 1340 01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:46,639 Speaker 2: really well, didn't get the win. Broncos defense played Davis Mills, 1341 01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,920 Speaker 2: so let's not take too much away from that. Davis 1342 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,240 Speaker 2: Mills in for Cgius Stroud is his like Mills started, 1343 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:54,960 Speaker 2: I know for a while, but he's not even like 1344 01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:57,800 Speaker 2: an average backup. He should barely even be in the 1345 01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,960 Speaker 2: league at this point in my opinion, So not great 1346 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:05,879 Speaker 2: for Houston. We'll see you with CJ in concussion protocol 1347 01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,320 Speaker 2: what it looks like going forward. But Texans onders that's 1348 01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 2: what it looks like to me. And there's your other 1349 01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,240 Speaker 2: little hint of where we're heading with our other hot 1350 01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 2: read in a couple of minutes here. 1351 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, the only two marks I have left in this game. 1352 01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,320 Speaker 3: It feels like every week. And they even covered the 1353 01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,600 Speaker 3: first half this week with you know, a quarter of 1354 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:26,240 Speaker 3: Davis Mills. But Houston nineteen and eight first A fats 1355 01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,920 Speaker 3: last two seasons. Listen to this, they're fifty two to 1356 01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,760 Speaker 3: twenty eight first fats since twenty twenty one. I mean, 1357 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,120 Speaker 3: they just continue to do whatever they want in the 1358 01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,360 Speaker 3: first half. I don't know if that's a Demico thing, 1359 01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:38,720 Speaker 3: but I guess at some point it's you know, it's 1360 01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,240 Speaker 3: rolled over over. I think multiple coaches so believe maybe 1361 01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,759 Speaker 3: it's a CJ. Stroud thing. But interesting. Nonetheless, the second 1362 01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:50,360 Speaker 3: point here is the spot for the Broncos next game, 1363 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:54,439 Speaker 3: which they are at home on Thursday Night Football at 1364 01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,920 Speaker 3: home against the Raiders. Now, the Raiders are coming off 1365 01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:01,439 Speaker 3: of overtime against the Jaguars, having to go to Denver 1366 01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,880 Speaker 3: on Thursday Night Football on a short week, which is 1367 01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,759 Speaker 3: an absolute terrible spot. I looked it up, so teams 1368 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,080 Speaker 3: on short rest off overtime when the opponent is not 1369 01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:15,280 Speaker 3: twenty six and forty seven straight up, twenty three forty 1370 01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,559 Speaker 3: seven and three against the spread last twenty years, falling 1371 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:20,880 Speaker 3: to cover by four point one points per game when 1372 01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:24,320 Speaker 3: they're on the road, ten and twenty five against the spread, 1373 01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,360 Speaker 3: So pretty terrible numbers. Now that number is nine and 1374 01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,880 Speaker 3: a half. And I know we talk about this every week. 1375 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,240 Speaker 3: We don't love laying points, especially nine and a half 1376 01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,120 Speaker 3: with the Broncos, who can't seem to find too much 1377 01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,400 Speaker 3: offense frequently. But that is a terrible spot for the 1378 01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,599 Speaker 3: Raiders off of a bad loss, ready to keep rolling. 1379 01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, big favorites on Thursday Night, it's tend to perform 1380 01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,160 Speaker 2: pretty well just because there's just not enough time for 1381 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,920 Speaker 2: the underdog to get into the game. So I'm not 1382 01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:51,760 Speaker 2: sure if I'll be betting that one, but I'm not 1383 01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,479 Speaker 2: sure i'll be watching either. I think I'll make some 1384 01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:54,760 Speaker 2: other plans for Thursday night. 1385 01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it's a bet for me. 1386 01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,639 Speaker 3: That's more just information And it feels like a very 1387 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,280 Speaker 3: very large line that probably has had a bit baked in. 1388 01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:04,840 Speaker 3: But all right, let's get to the last game here. 1389 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:09,200 Speaker 3: Before we get to just some scores. Chargers Titans. Chargers 1390 01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:12,479 Speaker 3: win this game twenty seven to twenty. The Titans cover 1391 01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:17,280 Speaker 3: at home plus ten on the close over forty four 1392 01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,640 Speaker 3: and a half. Tennessee finally covers at home, breaking an 1393 01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:24,880 Speaker 3: eleven game home ats losing street, the longest in NFL 1394 01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,479 Speaker 3: history entering this matchup. But Tennessee finds a way. They 1395 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,560 Speaker 3: were down late. It was gonna be a push or 1396 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,800 Speaker 3: depending on your clothes, but they find some points at 1397 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,800 Speaker 3: the end of the game. Listen, the biggest thing going 1398 01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,920 Speaker 3: forward for the Chargers, which you mentioned earlier and changes 1399 01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,639 Speaker 3: almost everything about what they do on offense, is Joe 1400 01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,920 Speaker 3: Alt taken off on a cart. Do you know did 1401 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:47,439 Speaker 3: you hear much like you can kind of take it 1402 01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,200 Speaker 3: from here? What did you hear about all? I didn't 1403 01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:50,160 Speaker 3: hear any other information? 1404 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I looked like another high end grows brain, which 1405 01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,080 Speaker 2: is the injury had earlier in the season. But it 1406 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,920 Speaker 2: sounds like likely to need surgery, so I don't know 1407 01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:59,960 Speaker 2: if he'll play it for a while or at least 1408 01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:04,080 Speaker 2: even again the season. Potentially Rayshawn Slater, the other tackle 1409 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,600 Speaker 2: already out for the season. Yeah, replacement Bobby Hart he 1410 01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:12,240 Speaker 2: got injured today. McKay Beckton is still injured. This offensive 1411 01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,040 Speaker 2: line is just shambles right now, Like this was already 1412 01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,479 Speaker 2: two star tackles and not a lot else and then 1413 01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,800 Speaker 2: they brought in Becton. Now they're missing all three of 1414 01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,040 Speaker 2: those guys and it's just like all the leftovers they've 1415 01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,160 Speaker 2: been trying desperately to replace over the years. So cluster 1416 01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,519 Speaker 2: injuries at the line or in the secondary really bad. 1417 01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,559 Speaker 2: And the Chargers again are playing the Steelers next week 1418 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,320 Speaker 2: after we just saw you know, Tjwatt and all those 1419 01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,720 Speaker 2: guys up front really get after it today. Chargers six 1420 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,800 Speaker 2: and three, but they go Steelers and then Jaguars, two 1421 01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,799 Speaker 2: teams that are very much in the exact same playoff 1422 01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:47,720 Speaker 2: positioning as the Chargers. So I think definitely if the 1423 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:49,760 Speaker 2: Chargers were not six and three, if they were like 1424 01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,600 Speaker 2: four and five and five and four, Joe Alt is 1425 01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,320 Speaker 2: a big enough injury. If he's out for the year 1426 01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,240 Speaker 2: or most of the year, that's like a season ender 1427 01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,599 Speaker 2: for this sort of team. Like to me, I'm thinking 1428 01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,280 Speaker 2: of that somewhat like I am starting to think about 1429 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:04,240 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers in the NFC, where like it's 1430 01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:06,360 Speaker 2: you are not what your record is. There is a 1431 01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,920 Speaker 2: much worse version of you that's happening here in this 1432 01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,680 Speaker 2: game though that was not the case. So I want 1433 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,000 Speaker 2: to note about Joe Alt. But also I know we 1434 01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,360 Speaker 2: keep looking like how do you catch the falling knife 1435 01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,080 Speaker 2: on the Titans? When do we finally have to bet 1436 01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:22,080 Speaker 2: the Titans. If you bet the Chargers in this game 1437 01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,679 Speaker 2: to cover, or if you bet the under in this game, 1438 01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:30,040 Speaker 2: you got screwed. The Chargers destroyed the Titans fifty eight 1439 01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:33,360 Speaker 2: to thirty four percent success rate is just an absolute beatdown. 1440 01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:37,200 Speaker 2: The Titans got a pick six and a punt return touchdown, 1441 01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,120 Speaker 2: and that's the only reason they scored twenty that's their 1442 01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,679 Speaker 2: touchdowns in the game. And then they got two field 1443 01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,040 Speaker 2: goals because they're just trying to cover late in the game. 1444 01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,479 Speaker 2: I guess you would see the stats on this game 1445 01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,280 Speaker 2: and you'd bet the Chargers one hundred times out of ten. 1446 01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:52,519 Speaker 2: So if you were on Chargers, if you were on 1447 01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,439 Speaker 2: the under, that was the right side such as betting. 1448 01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:57,479 Speaker 2: This is why it is a tough sport to bet on. 1449 01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:01,559 Speaker 2: But to me takeaway from that, I am still looking 1450 01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,000 Speaker 2: at any chance I can to fay the Titans, like 1451 01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,320 Speaker 2: can they fire the new interim coach? Like this is 1452 01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:11,599 Speaker 2: getting worse somehow. I'm only disappointed because the teams are 1453 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,120 Speaker 2: off next week, so we're gonna have to wait a 1454 01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:14,760 Speaker 2: week before we get to bet against him again. 1455 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:17,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, this stat I'll give you right now, or at 1456 01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,320 Speaker 3: least one or two stats on Tennessee. It's just it's ridiculous. 1457 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,320 Speaker 3: So I was looking up some cam Ward stuff. He 1458 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,960 Speaker 3: has four touchdowns and five picks when trailing this year, 1459 01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,720 Speaker 3: So when the defense is allowing him to kind of 1460 01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:32,160 Speaker 3: do more because maybe they're backing up or whatever, he 1461 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,280 Speaker 3: still not doing well. Fifty seven percent completion percentage and 1462 01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,320 Speaker 3: a seventy one passer ety when trailing this year. Only 1463 01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,960 Speaker 3: quarterbacks worse are Tua and Stroud, and I think that 1464 01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,920 Speaker 3: says something about Stroud. Also, today was his first career 1465 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,960 Speaker 3: game without an interception and fewer than five sacks. Today 1466 01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:51,960 Speaker 3: was the first time he's ever done that in his 1467 01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:55,320 Speaker 3: NFL career so far this year, So no interception and 1468 01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,599 Speaker 3: fewer than five sacks, and he had a thirteen point 1469 01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:02,120 Speaker 3: seven QBR in the game, and that's out of one hundred, FYI, 1470 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,840 Speaker 3: So that is what we've got. The other one here, 1471 01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:08,240 Speaker 3: he has five touchdown passes on the season in two 1472 01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,680 Speaker 3: hundred and ninety five pass attempts through nine starts. That 1473 01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,479 Speaker 3: is tied for the fewest passing touchdowns with that many 1474 01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:19,720 Speaker 3: pass attempts and nine starts. Ever, I kept double checking this, 1475 01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:23,040 Speaker 3: but we have not found a quarterback with fewer than 1476 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,240 Speaker 3: five passing touchdowns with that many attempts. So what cam 1477 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:30,320 Speaker 3: Warder's doing out there is ridiculous from week to week, 1478 01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:32,439 Speaker 3: and I think it has way more to do with 1479 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,880 Speaker 3: everything around him in Tennessee. The other one on this 1480 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:40,200 Speaker 3: one I believe comes from CBS, But most consecutive games 1481 01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,640 Speaker 3: with fewer touchdowns than opponent. The Titans have gone fourteen 1482 01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:49,360 Speaker 3: straight games with fewer touchdowns than their opponent. The only 1483 01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:54,160 Speaker 3: longer streaks, at least recently, were the Bucks in the 1484 01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:57,479 Speaker 3: seventies with eighteen straight. Other than that, you got to 1485 01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:01,040 Speaker 3: go back to the forties. So Titans go fourteen straight 1486 01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:04,639 Speaker 3: games not scoring more touchdowns than their opponent feels almost 1487 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,200 Speaker 3: made up. But right now they've got a buy and 1488 01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,800 Speaker 3: then you know, we will see how it goes. I'm 1489 01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:15,640 Speaker 3: looking at the schedule now, versus Houston, versus Seattle, versus Jacksonville, 1490 01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:20,559 Speaker 3: three really difficult defenses coming out of the by even 1491 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:21,599 Speaker 3: though they're all at home. 1492 01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,680 Speaker 2: So we will see that now. I want to be 1493 01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,840 Speaker 2: compared to the seventies Buccaneers, I'll tell you that much. 1494 01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,760 Speaker 2: You need to know a lot about NFL history, But 1495 01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:30,560 Speaker 2: that is not a team you ever want to be 1496 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,960 Speaker 2: in a sentence with. So it has gone as bad 1497 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:37,160 Speaker 2: as it can for the Titans. We got to get 1498 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,200 Speaker 2: to Monday night and how reed Chorly, But get us 1499 01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,240 Speaker 2: through these last couple of games, all right. 1500 01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,800 Speaker 3: San Francisco wins thirty four to twenty four, covers two 1501 01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,160 Speaker 3: and a half on the road, total over forty seven 1502 01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:49,080 Speaker 3: and a half. The mikel Williams injury is really really 1503 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:53,160 Speaker 3: big here. The other one this quote from Kyle Shanahan 1504 01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:56,600 Speaker 3: after the game saying that Brot Perdy was not that 1505 01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:01,000 Speaker 3: close to being active today. Shanahan on his toe injury. 1506 01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,320 Speaker 3: It's something that probably won't fully go away all year, 1507 01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,439 Speaker 3: regardless of when he comes back. That is a really, 1508 01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,960 Speaker 3: really bad quote. The one thing in San Francisco for 1509 01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,880 Speaker 3: next week, remember one in fourteen against the spread after 1510 01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,960 Speaker 3: an outright win. Since Christmas are twenty twenty three, so 1511 01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,240 Speaker 3: have to see if San Francisco is able to put 1512 01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:24,160 Speaker 3: together two in a row and then last game here 1513 01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,240 Speaker 3: the Rams win thirty four to ten over the Saints. 1514 01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,559 Speaker 3: They cover the fourteen points spread on close total goes 1515 01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,719 Speaker 3: under forty four and a half by the hook. Pooka 1516 01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,400 Speaker 3: leaves but could have come back, so we believe he's good. 1517 01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:40,439 Speaker 3: The thing that's interesting, Carti has missed eight kicks so 1518 01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,320 Speaker 3: far for the Rams this year, pat and field goal 1519 01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:45,920 Speaker 3: most in the NFL. Rams are a great team, but 1520 01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,840 Speaker 3: that feels like one flaw that might come back to 1521 01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,479 Speaker 3: bite them. What's next for the Rams is probably the 1522 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:54,920 Speaker 3: most interesting, which is at San Francisco at home against 1523 01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,320 Speaker 3: Seattle the next two weeks, so we will see a 1524 01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:01,200 Speaker 3: lot about the Rams in that span. Also so completely 1525 01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,560 Speaker 3: different than any other year if you've been following some 1526 01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,519 Speaker 3: of the data that I put together. But Ram seven 1527 01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:10,120 Speaker 3: and one second half ats best in the NFL. And 1528 01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,240 Speaker 3: then the stat that's crazy about this game the Saints 1529 01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:17,519 Speaker 3: sixteen minutes time of possession in this game, four point 1530 01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:21,479 Speaker 3: four plays per drive. That's not yards, that is plays 1531 01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,400 Speaker 3: per drive in the game. So not much else to 1532 01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:36,120 Speaker 3: be said there. All right, Monday night Football time, give 1533 01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:37,840 Speaker 3: you a few little nuggets here, and then I'll toss 1534 01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:43,679 Speaker 3: it to Brandon, So, Cardinals and Cowboys. What's the line 1535 01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:44,640 Speaker 3: right now you pull it up. 1536 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,960 Speaker 2: Cowboys minus three, Cowboys three three and a half depending 1537 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:48,679 Speaker 2: on your book. 1538 01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:52,400 Speaker 3: And fifty three and a half. The stat from Dak 1539 01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,880 Speaker 3: is just dominated night games twenty nine to fifteen and 1540 01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,920 Speaker 3: one straight up twenty six and eighteen against the spread 1541 01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:01,240 Speaker 3: two and zero already ats this season, and here's the 1542 01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,640 Speaker 3: best one since it started twenty twenty. Dak and the 1543 01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:07,720 Speaker 3: Cowboys a perfect thirteen and oh straight up as a 1544 01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:11,200 Speaker 3: favorite at night, beating their opponents by eighteen point three 1545 01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:15,280 Speaker 3: points per game, which fits against the Cardinals here. The 1546 01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:18,360 Speaker 3: Cardinals is crazy. They've won five to Dave. I'm sorry, 1547 01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:21,519 Speaker 3: They've lost five straight games by four points or less, 1548 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,160 Speaker 3: which has only been done by two other teams in 1549 01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:28,960 Speaker 3: NFL history. And of course, Cowboys homeovers three and now 1550 01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:32,920 Speaker 3: homeovers fifteen and six last three seasons for Dallas. But 1551 01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:34,599 Speaker 3: what do you do here, Arizona Dallas. 1552 01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. One other crazy stat in this game is that 1553 01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,000 Speaker 2: the Cardinals have this weird juju against the Cowboys. They 1554 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:44,080 Speaker 2: have won seven of eight games against Dallas, all as 1555 01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,760 Speaker 2: an underdog since two thousand and Oh. Wow, it was 1556 01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,640 Speaker 2: just this weird like, I don't even know it's a 1557 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,240 Speaker 2: rivalry because I don't know if Dallas thinks that. It's 1558 01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,120 Speaker 2: like one of those where the little brother thinks they're rivals, 1559 01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,360 Speaker 2: except in this case, the little brother keeps winning for 1560 01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,840 Speaker 2: the last like two decades. Arizona's covering by twelve points 1561 01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,280 Speaker 2: a game in that stretch, so obviously, like that's across 1562 01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,559 Speaker 2: all sorts of years and teams and eros and whatever, 1563 01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,560 Speaker 2: but just a weird one Kyler nine and zero in 1564 01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:13,200 Speaker 2: Jerry World. But that stat doesn't matter anymore because he's 1565 01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:18,599 Speaker 2: not playing here. I don't know if he likes soft bench. Yeah, right, 1566 01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,719 Speaker 2: is what's happening here? Is he benched? Is what's happening. 1567 01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:25,240 Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissette is playing. And I think that that weirdly 1568 01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:28,400 Speaker 2: is buying us a little value here, I think Kyler. Look, 1569 01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,360 Speaker 2: I'm not the biggest Kyler fan, but this line only 1570 01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:34,280 Speaker 2: really moved like half a point moving to Jacoby Brissett. 1571 01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,200 Speaker 2: And I know it's easy as slander Kyler, but this 1572 01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:39,599 Speaker 2: is the spot you want to back Kyler Murray. He's 1573 01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:43,320 Speaker 2: sixty six percent ats as an underdog, he's undefeated Jerry World. 1574 01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:46,200 Speaker 2: This to me, I wanted Dallas in this game. But 1575 01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:47,880 Speaker 2: I was like, man, I don't know, Kyler is so 1576 01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,160 Speaker 2: dangerous in the spot with Jacoby Brissett. I know you're 1577 01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,679 Speaker 2: gonna limit the mistakes, but you kill the ceiling. There's 1578 01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:57,679 Speaker 2: no more ceiling. And against the Cowboys, you want ceiling. 1579 01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,280 Speaker 2: They don't have a defense. All you want is who 1580 01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,000 Speaker 2: can go out and get us some points. Right now, 1581 01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,160 Speaker 2: Dallas is going to score, so you know you need 1582 01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:07,880 Speaker 2: to match them. Jacoby Brissett, last ten starts across the 1583 01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,680 Speaker 2: last three seasons, has the top twenty seven points in 1584 01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,120 Speaker 2: a game. He's averaging seventeen and a half points a 1585 01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,920 Speaker 2: game with his team's six straight losses. He is a 1586 01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:21,400 Speaker 2: competent backup and that's it. Arizona on the season has 1587 01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:23,800 Speaker 2: only scored up to twenty seven points. They have not 1588 01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,760 Speaker 2: topped that this season. Well, twenty eight points for the 1589 01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:29,000 Speaker 2: Cowboys gets the job done, and Dallas is going to 1590 01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,599 Speaker 2: score that. At home most of the time, they're averaging 1591 01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,799 Speaker 2: about thirty one a game, and at home they've scored 1592 01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,679 Speaker 2: forty forty and forty four. That's it. That's the whole 1593 01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:41,360 Speaker 2: season of home games, forty one a game versus twenty 1594 01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:44,120 Speaker 2: four game on the road. There's something working about this 1595 01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:47,559 Speaker 2: offense in Dallas. I think it's a good setup for Dallas. 1596 01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:52,320 Speaker 2: Hunter Rales, defensive coordinator for the Cardinals. Fun name. All 1597 01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,519 Speaker 2: the nerds like to talk about all the gimmicks and 1598 01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:58,120 Speaker 2: the three safeties and everything. It's super fun until you 1599 01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,280 Speaker 2: face like a real quarterback in a real off and 1600 01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,360 Speaker 2: it doesn't always go well against better talent. And Dak 1601 01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:07,240 Speaker 2: and CD and Pickens is better talent. And get ready 1602 01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,000 Speaker 2: to hear the name Clayton Adams. I think a lot 1603 01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:12,520 Speaker 2: on Monday Night. Clayton Adams is the Cowboys offensive coordinator, 1604 01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,680 Speaker 2: but was up until this year, the run coordinator for 1605 01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:20,639 Speaker 2: the Cardinals. Arizona had run so well in recent years. 1606 01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:27,000 Speaker 2: Clayton Adams leaves Arizona bottom five in rushing DVA Dallas 1607 01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:31,479 Speaker 2: with a like a sham offensive line. Everyone's hurt running 1608 01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:35,040 Speaker 2: backs nobody wanted into the season. Top ten run game 1609 01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,320 Speaker 2: over and over, Dallas is pounding the run. I'm gonna 1610 01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,679 Speaker 2: hear a lot about Clayton Adams. I like the stat 1611 01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:42,800 Speaker 2: you gave with the night game for Dak. We know 1612 01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,479 Speaker 2: his as a favorite, we know he's good against sub 1613 01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,799 Speaker 2: five hundred teams. I like Dallas a lot here. Dallas 1614 01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:52,000 Speaker 2: minus three, it's not gonna get below that, so don't 1615 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,599 Speaker 2: wait around. But I'll say this, I don't mind three 1616 01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:56,479 Speaker 2: and a half. If it gets there and you haven't 1617 01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,120 Speaker 2: played yet, I may get closer to Dallas minus five. 1618 01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,160 Speaker 2: So I think they get the win. I need to 1619 01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:05,240 Speaker 2: get the cover. If you want a prop in the game. Look, 1620 01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:08,280 Speaker 2: there's gonna be points. So I think Marvin Harrison Junior 1621 01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:11,280 Speaker 2: to score touchdown plus one sixty m seeing out there. 1622 01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:15,479 Speaker 2: I know with Brissett it's been Trey McBride. Harrison's only 1623 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:19,000 Speaker 2: had two catches each game, but Dallas has allowed fifteen 1624 01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:22,360 Speaker 2: touchdowns to receivers already this season, nine touchdowns to wide 1625 01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:27,840 Speaker 2: receiver one and look Kyler's slander aside. I do trust 1626 01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,519 Speaker 2: Brissett the ball to Harrison on the routes that he 1627 01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,320 Speaker 2: runs a little bit better. And look, if you like 1628 01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,439 Speaker 2: the Harrison angle, you can play it with Dallas minus 1629 01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:40,000 Speaker 2: three together. That's not negative correlation. I mean the Cowboys 1630 01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,840 Speaker 2: gonna score plenty anyways. The Cardinal's gonna score some points 1631 01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,360 Speaker 2: in the game, may as well be Harrison. You can 1632 01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:48,479 Speaker 2: play those two together at plus four fifty and get 1633 01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:52,120 Speaker 2: kind of the negative correlation parlay there, So Cowboys minus 1634 01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,519 Speaker 2: three and I do like Harrison to find the end 1635 01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:55,679 Speaker 2: zone plus one sixty. 1636 01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:59,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't mind Dallas. I the ways, the way 1637 01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,200 Speaker 3: I was going to play this game was the angle 1638 01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:06,720 Speaker 3: of McBride. Again, if you've been watching Arizona games, the 1639 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,760 Speaker 3: chemistry between him and Brissett just seems to be much better. 1640 01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,320 Speaker 3: Six for sixty is basically minus one ten at a 1641 01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,479 Speaker 3: few books, so I think that's completely doable. The other 1642 01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,120 Speaker 3: bet I like is minus one thirty to have a 1643 01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:21,800 Speaker 3: catch on their first drive. I think he's just gonna 1644 01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:22,760 Speaker 3: be someone they're going to look for. 1645 01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:23,080 Speaker 2: Now. 1646 01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,400 Speaker 3: If you look into the numbers and you say, oh, well, 1647 01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:28,240 Speaker 3: what does height Ends do against Dallas, it's mediocre. They're 1648 01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,680 Speaker 3: worse against wide receivers. But I think this is more 1649 01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:35,280 Speaker 3: about Brissett and when Arizona's offense, especially without Connor, without Benson, 1650 01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,280 Speaker 3: like the run game just hasn't been a part of 1651 01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,840 Speaker 3: what they've done and it hasn't been effective. So I 1652 01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,920 Speaker 3: think McBride makes sense. Especially come on, he was gonna 1653 01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,880 Speaker 3: buy over National tight Ends day. They're gonna make a 1654 01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:47,280 Speaker 3: big deal out of it. He's going to be good 1655 01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,080 Speaker 3: in this game, so I like that angle the other 1656 01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:52,640 Speaker 3: two bets, I think this is a good setup in 1657 01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:56,360 Speaker 3: Dallas for a field goal of thirty three plus yards 1658 01:24:56,360 --> 01:25:00,880 Speaker 3: from both teams. I trust Ryland, I like indoors. I 1659 01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,880 Speaker 3: think Brissette's gonna have some trouble getting in the red zone. 1660 01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,240 Speaker 3: I think both with a total of fifty four. I'm 1661 01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:08,040 Speaker 3: not sure how I don't like that bet and the 1662 01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:09,720 Speaker 3: last bet I was looking for, and I guess I 1663 01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:12,720 Speaker 3: would be curious your opinion on this. I wanted a 1664 01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:16,120 Speaker 3: big Dak completion early in this game. He has been 1665 01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:20,240 Speaker 3: I believe it's twenty seven plus yards in eight of 1666 01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,960 Speaker 3: nine of his last first quarters, so he's come out 1667 01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,960 Speaker 3: really hot. And the line the only way I could 1668 01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,600 Speaker 3: see playing this. The line is fifty eight and a 1669 01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:32,880 Speaker 3: half first quarter pass yards. I was looking for like 1670 01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:36,519 Speaker 3: longest pass first half, longest pass early in the game 1671 01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,640 Speaker 3: because I believe the number is like thirty four or 1672 01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,800 Speaker 3: thirty five over full game, which I think is more 1673 01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,639 Speaker 3: of a coin flip. But I think Dallas comes out 1674 01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:48,280 Speaker 3: throwing and I like that number. Fifty eight and a 1675 01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:49,400 Speaker 3: half feels fine for me. 1676 01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:52,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if there is like a longest 1677 01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:57,240 Speaker 2: like a quarter or half longest pass. Yeah, like I 1678 01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,479 Speaker 2: think you maybe played that live. If you're taking it 1679 01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:01,880 Speaker 2: like a or fourth quarter or a second half type thing, 1680 01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,280 Speaker 2: I'm not sure you're gonna be able to pull that off. Otherwise, 1681 01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:07,559 Speaker 2: I do like the McBride engles two games with Brissett, 1682 01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:11,679 Speaker 2: twenty four targets, eighteen catches, one hundred and forty six yards, 1683 01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,840 Speaker 2: and three touchdowns. You only have three touchdowns since the 1684 01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,280 Speaker 2: start of last season until these two games with Prisatt. 1685 01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:20,040 Speaker 2: So maybe I'm overthinking of going with Harrison. I'm playing 1686 01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,920 Speaker 2: the matchup and receivers, but he's kind of their receiver, 1687 01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:24,880 Speaker 2: so maybe he's the receiver one they should just get 1688 01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:25,439 Speaker 2: the touchdown. 1689 01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:28,679 Speaker 3: Agreed. The two other notes I thought were interesting. Dak 1690 01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:30,880 Speaker 3: right now plus one hundred to win comeback player of 1691 01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:33,080 Speaker 3: the year, so he is the favorite win comeback player 1692 01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:36,200 Speaker 3: of the year entering this game. CMC right behind him 1693 01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:40,360 Speaker 3: at plus one fifty five and including this game against Dallas, 1694 01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:44,599 Speaker 3: Arizona does have the toughest remaining strength to schedule. We're 1695 01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,680 Speaker 3: looking at win percentage fifty seven point four percent, so 1696 01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:51,479 Speaker 3: we here would go a long way, but tough sledding 1697 01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:53,599 Speaker 3: going forward. For Arizona anything else. 1698 01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,200 Speaker 2: Now, let's do holl reed all right. 1699 01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:57,920 Speaker 3: If you want to tell some of these Mona night 1700 01:26:57,920 --> 01:26:59,639 Speaker 3: football bets, though, make sure to look for the quick 1701 01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,640 Speaker 3: sup in the podcast in video description or go to 1702 01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,960 Speaker 3: actioneeric dot com slash bet now b E t n OW. 1703 01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:08,560 Speaker 3: You can also find those quick slip links in the 1704 01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:10,880 Speaker 3: live YouTube chat. If you're still hanging out with us, 1705 01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:14,639 Speaker 3: I will say actionework dot com slash bet now, super simple. 1706 01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:16,960 Speaker 3: They've got all the bets we have listed out there, 1707 01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,360 Speaker 3: right to a quick slip link to your sports book. 1708 01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:24,280 Speaker 3: All right, Brandon, hot rate time, I believe now quote 1709 01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:27,519 Speaker 3: me for long since started twenty twenty three, fifty thirty 1710 01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,439 Speaker 3: two sixty one percent, not too shabby. What are you 1711 01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:35,479 Speaker 3: looking at? Hot wrap both on ice rights ice cream 1712 01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,520 Speaker 3: ho say hot. 1713 01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. We finally got another two another week on their 1714 01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:45,320 Speaker 2: second one of the year, and we went with the 1715 01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:48,000 Speaker 2: Seattle easy one to end the night with, and then 1716 01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,600 Speaker 2: we did Texans under. So let's go right back to 1717 01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:54,439 Speaker 2: the well, Texans Jaguars under thirty nine and a half 1718 01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:58,280 Speaker 2: at DraftKings just minus one ten already dropping at some books, 1719 01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,200 Speaker 2: so I want to grab that one right away. It's 1720 01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:02,880 Speaker 2: gonna keep Ryan the Texans under train. Not only is 1721 01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,200 Speaker 2: their defense great, but their offense is bad. And now 1722 01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:09,400 Speaker 2: Stroud is hurt, so maybe Stroud ends up missing the game, 1723 01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,519 Speaker 2: and concussion protocol you never know how quickly guys come 1724 01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:14,920 Speaker 2: out of that. Obviously, if we get Davis Mills here, 1725 01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:18,679 Speaker 2: I'm gonna like that for this play. Already, this total 1726 01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:21,160 Speaker 2: is forty one and a half this morning, it's down 1727 01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:23,519 Speaker 2: two points. I think that's counting in the Stroud injury 1728 01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:25,720 Speaker 2: question mark it's thirty nine, thirty eight and a half. 1729 01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:30,000 Speaker 2: Some books, Look, Jacksonville's offense just came out of the 1730 01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:32,479 Speaker 2: bye week, and I know the fourth quurt in overtime 1731 01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,280 Speaker 2: count but they did not look good through three quarters 1732 01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,800 Speaker 2: against the Raiders. They look bad against the Raiders, so 1733 01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:42,120 Speaker 2: this is not great. Travis Hunter is out, Brian Thomas 1734 01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:44,120 Speaker 2: Junior is injured. We don't know if he's gonna play. 1735 01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:46,360 Speaker 2: They're not gonna be able to pass at all against 1736 01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:50,160 Speaker 2: the Houston defense that's been incredible against the pass, and 1737 01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:53,599 Speaker 2: then Jacksonville's run defense has been really good. So if 1738 01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:56,200 Speaker 2: it is Davis Mills, it's all on Davis Mills to 1739 01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,599 Speaker 2: be the offense in this game. I just don't see 1740 01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:01,600 Speaker 2: that going well for either team. Last seven games in 1741 01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:04,880 Speaker 2: this division rivalry thirty five point three points a game. 1742 01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,320 Speaker 2: So we're getting some ugly ones here. All but one 1743 01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,880 Speaker 2: of those forty five are below. We need thirty nine 1744 01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,920 Speaker 2: er below. But we've had a thirty four, a twenty seven, 1745 01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:16,200 Speaker 2: and we've had a nineteen in this series, and we 1746 01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,280 Speaker 2: know we're going under. With Texans six and two to 1747 01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:21,080 Speaker 2: the under this season. They had the one Baltimore game 1748 01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:25,120 Speaker 2: fifty four points. Otherwise they're averaging on the season thirty 1749 01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,880 Speaker 2: three points six points a game both teams. In Texans games, 1750 01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:33,080 Speaker 2: we've already had five games below this number and a 1751 01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:37,400 Speaker 2: forty one, so nearly six games below this number. Jacksonville's 1752 01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:40,040 Speaker 2: had a forty two, a thirty six, thirty two or 1753 01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:43,599 Speaker 2: twenty seven. And yeah, it was nine to six against 1754 01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:45,479 Speaker 2: the Raiders coming out of the bye week in this 1755 01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,160 Speaker 2: one until it went crazy at late. So if you 1756 01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:50,720 Speaker 2: want to wait here, I will say Jacksonville is six 1757 01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:53,080 Speaker 2: and two to the first half under. So if you're 1758 01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,800 Speaker 2: afraid about that late Jacksonville explosion, maybe you want just 1759 01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:58,120 Speaker 2: the first half under. I don't mind that, but the 1760 01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:00,439 Speaker 2: totals dropping already. I don't think you want to wait around. 1761 01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:04,200 Speaker 2: Once you get below forty, you know every point's gonna matter, 1762 01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:07,599 Speaker 2: especially indoors here. So I'm gonna grab it now under 1763 01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,080 Speaker 2: three and nine and a half Houston and Jacksonill. What 1764 01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:11,840 Speaker 2: do you think I like it? 1765 01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:15,800 Speaker 3: I don't know how you take overs with Jacksonville at 1766 01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:19,640 Speaker 3: this point, and I feel like the spread in the 1767 01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:23,080 Speaker 3: game is a little light as well, like if Thomas's 1768 01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:26,639 Speaker 3: injury does keep him limited one and a half for Houston, 1769 01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:29,800 Speaker 3: who feels like they're getting healthier. I believe I didn't 1770 01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,880 Speaker 3: look at the the injury report today, but I would 1771 01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:34,720 Speaker 3: think that's a little light. I might even look at 1772 01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:37,519 Speaker 3: Houston and the under in that situation. But I agree 1773 01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,120 Speaker 3: with you, Yeah, I mean I actually had circle though. 1774 01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:41,880 Speaker 2: The reason I came to this game is I wanted 1775 01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:45,240 Speaker 2: a Texans play, but I can't bet the Texans without Stroud. 1776 01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,200 Speaker 2: Like Davis Mills have a favorite in any NFL game, 1777 01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:49,880 Speaker 2: I might have to sit that one out, but I 1778 01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:52,679 Speaker 2: agree my number is still like Houston there. I looked 1779 01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:55,040 Speaker 2: at just Houston money line. I'd rather just play the 1780 01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:57,560 Speaker 2: under now, and you know, if it is Stroud, I 1781 01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:00,280 Speaker 2: probably would not mind coming back on the Texans play 1782 01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:04,000 Speaker 2: as well from either Howard today going with two teams 1783 01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:06,120 Speaker 2: from games that only you talked about at the very 1784 01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:09,479 Speaker 2: end of our rundown today, Rams Niners give me the 1785 01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:13,439 Speaker 2: Rams minus three on the road in San fran Look, 1786 01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:15,040 Speaker 2: I would love a minus two and a half, but 1787 01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:16,760 Speaker 2: I don't think it's coming, and I don't think we're 1788 01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:19,479 Speaker 2: gonna wait around for it, as these teams are going 1789 01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:24,240 Speaker 2: opposite directions right now. You mentioned Mikel Williams, the best 1790 01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:28,639 Speaker 2: defensive lineman left on the Niners. He's gone, Nick Bosa's gone, 1791 01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:32,519 Speaker 2: Fred Warner's gone. They're missing like five other starters. This 1792 01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:35,000 Speaker 2: is my number thirty two defense, Like with a bullet. 1793 01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:37,720 Speaker 2: They're getting worse now, and I think the Niners are 1794 01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,600 Speaker 2: kind of like a worst version of Dallas. They're an 1795 01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:44,320 Speaker 2: awful defense with a good offense that's not even a 1796 01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:47,519 Speaker 2: great offense like Dallas's can be at times. They're not 1797 01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:50,360 Speaker 2: good on special teams. Normally that'd be an area that 1798 01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:52,200 Speaker 2: you would have on the Rams. The Rams went better 1799 01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:55,360 Speaker 2: there despite Cardi's kicking, like you mentioned, and I had 1800 01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:58,280 Speaker 2: the same note you did. Suddenly brought Perty is not 1801 01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:00,840 Speaker 2: even close to coming back or whatever that means as well. 1802 01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,960 Speaker 2: So maybe that's coach speak, but I gotta take it 1803 01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:06,840 Speaker 2: as it is. I think the Rams have a case 1804 01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:08,600 Speaker 2: as the best team in football. We started with the 1805 01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:10,880 Speaker 2: Seahawks at the beginning of our show. I think the 1806 01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:14,040 Speaker 2: Rams have the good cases anybody. They entered the weekend 1807 01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:16,720 Speaker 2: top quarter of the league offense and defense, running and 1808 01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:20,040 Speaker 2: passing by dv away, and then they coasted in this game. 1809 01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:22,439 Speaker 2: We bet Rams to lead at the end of every quarter. 1810 01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:24,760 Speaker 2: It's like the easiest bet have had all season long. 1811 01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:27,800 Speaker 2: Granted against the Saints, but the way that the forty 1812 01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:30,200 Speaker 2: nine ers are playing right now. I know they won 1813 01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:33,680 Speaker 2: comfortably today, but I'm not sure they're They're closer to 1814 01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:35,519 Speaker 2: the Saints than the Rams. Let's put it that way. 1815 01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:38,360 Speaker 2: And what are the Niners better at. They're better at 1816 01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:42,040 Speaker 2: having McCaffrey and Kittle, and that's it. Like no other 1817 01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:45,400 Speaker 2: position is better. They're not better on any particular unit. 1818 01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:49,479 Speaker 2: They're not better on special teams. And you used to 1819 01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,000 Speaker 2: be able to argue in this matchup, well, they got Shanahan, 1820 01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:54,519 Speaker 2: though you always take Shanahan against McVay. That was a 1821 01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:58,040 Speaker 2: tried and true thing until ten and three ATS Shanahan 1822 01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:01,120 Speaker 2: starting out in his career against McVay. Then McVay covered 1823 01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:04,000 Speaker 2: four in a row. Tell that weird Thursday night game 1824 01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,240 Speaker 2: that we had like a month ago when the Rams 1825 01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:10,320 Speaker 2: lost in LA to like all the forty nine ers backups. However, 1826 01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:13,479 Speaker 2: that game I think is gonna make sure the Rams 1827 01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:15,360 Speaker 2: have their head on straight in our focus for this 1828 01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:17,840 Speaker 2: one that they got to get back for this embarrassing 1829 01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,759 Speaker 2: loss they just had. The Niners have only top twenty 1830 01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:24,400 Speaker 2: one points all season. That was against the Giants today, 1831 01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:27,880 Speaker 2: the Saints earlier, and then that Rams game. So I 1832 01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:30,040 Speaker 2: don't think the Niners are gonna find many points here 1833 01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:33,200 Speaker 2: against a pretty good defense. You mentioned Matt Stafford down 1834 01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:36,000 Speaker 2: to five to one MVP. He's looking really good with 1835 01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,920 Speaker 2: Puka and Adams. The Rams are rolling And if you're 1836 01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:41,240 Speaker 2: worried about the minus three, I don't think you should be. 1837 01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:44,160 Speaker 2: Since the start of last season, the Rams have seventeen 1838 01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:47,639 Speaker 2: wins against a minus three spread. They would be fifteen 1839 01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,400 Speaker 2: to one and one in those games. They don't win 1840 01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:53,679 Speaker 2: tiny close games. That's not McVeigh. He doesn't pull those out. 1841 01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:57,000 Speaker 2: They lose those games. If they're gonna win, they're probably 1842 01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,880 Speaker 2: gonna win comfortably. Remember we keep playing alts against that 1843 01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:02,600 Speaker 2: because when they lose, they lose by double digits. So 1844 01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:05,120 Speaker 2: don't be surprised if we come back with a few 1845 01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:07,519 Speaker 2: alter later in the week as well. But for right now, 1846 01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:12,439 Speaker 2: closing out today, Rams minus three, Pat San Francisco, take 1847 01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:13,960 Speaker 2: the team head in the right direction. 1848 01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:17,959 Speaker 3: Scare it to death every time with Vey against Shanahan. 1849 01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,880 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, these two rosters have never been 1850 01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:23,599 Speaker 3: more opposite than they are here, and there's no way 1851 01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:25,879 Speaker 3: they don't have their head on straight after just completely 1852 01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:29,000 Speaker 3: blowing that game earlier this season. So that is a 1853 01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:30,040 Speaker 3: decent angle there. 1854 01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:40,400 Speaker 2: All. 1855 01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:43,120 Speaker 3: Right. Before we wrap up, let's hear from Patrick Everson 1856 01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:45,759 Speaker 3: from Vegas Insiders and how things looked in Las Vegas. 1857 01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:50,040 Speaker 1: This can be summed up pretty quickly. When you get 1858 01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:55,120 Speaker 1: super popular favorites that are laying a lot of points 1859 01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:57,160 Speaker 1: and are going to be in everybody's money line, Parley 1860 01:34:57,400 --> 01:35:00,680 Speaker 1: and those teams lose outright, then it's going to be 1861 01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:04,240 Speaker 1: a good day to be a bookmaker. And Sunday was 1862 01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:06,640 Speaker 1: a very good day to be a bookmaker, probably one 1863 01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:09,080 Speaker 1: of the better Sundays of the entire season so far. 1864 01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:12,840 Speaker 1: Everything was running from the Lions to the Chiefs. I 1865 01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:15,240 Speaker 1: talked to one odds maker here in Las Vegas just 1866 01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, before the Vikings Lions game was settled, we 1867 01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:22,439 Speaker 1: were discussing the Bills Chiefs game, which obviously was the 1868 01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:24,880 Speaker 1: marquee matchup of this week and had a ton of action, 1869 01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:27,880 Speaker 1: and what he said was, we've just got so much 1870 01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:31,360 Speaker 1: moneyline parlay action to the Chiefs that if somehow the 1871 01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:34,639 Speaker 1: Vikings were able to win, we could fix that problem. 1872 01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,200 Speaker 1: And again that was obviously before that outcome was decided. 1873 01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:40,920 Speaker 1: So once the outcome was decided, before the Bills and 1874 01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:43,799 Speaker 1: Chiefs kicked off, obviously that was huge for that particular 1875 01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:46,760 Speaker 1: odds maker in that particular book, And really that was 1876 01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:49,200 Speaker 1: the case across the country, at books across Las Vegas 1877 01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:52,000 Speaker 1: and books across the nation, And in fact, one odds 1878 01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:53,720 Speaker 1: maker said, it's our best day in a while. It's 1879 01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:55,760 Speaker 1: crazy what a few episodes will do for the book. 1880 01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:58,400 Speaker 1: And again, not just a few upsets, but upsets in 1881 01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:00,360 Speaker 1: the right places. You get the Lions losing, in the 1882 01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:04,000 Speaker 1: Packers losing, and that's that's definitely going to fall against 1883 01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:07,519 Speaker 1: the public betting masses and in favor of the sports books. 1884 01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,160 Speaker 1: To give it a little more context, we could go 1885 01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:13,280 Speaker 1: favorites one eleven and two straight up and against the 1886 01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:17,040 Speaker 1: spread this week heading into the Monday night game, You've 1887 01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:20,439 Speaker 1: already got five underdogs that have won outright, and granted, 1888 01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:22,679 Speaker 1: the Bills are not going to be an unpopular underdog, 1889 01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:26,200 Speaker 1: but they were an underdog no less, and you had 1890 01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:28,760 Speaker 1: two more underdogs that covered the spread, the Falcons and 1891 01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:32,080 Speaker 1: the Raiders. The Falcons certain potentially could have beaatetn New 1892 01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:34,200 Speaker 1: England for that matter of the Raiders could have beaten Jacksonville, 1893 01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:35,840 Speaker 1: but really I don't think a lot of people cared 1894 01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:37,519 Speaker 1: about that game, but they did care about the Falcons 1895 01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:41,240 Speaker 1: Patriots game. That could have been another outright upset. But 1896 01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:43,360 Speaker 1: just the same, the Falcons lose by a point and 1897 01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:46,599 Speaker 1: cover the numbers. So a much better day for underdogs, 1898 01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:49,040 Speaker 1: which generally means a much better day for the bookmakers, 1899 01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:51,680 Speaker 1: and especially when you can blow up online parlays with 1900 01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:56,320 Speaker 1: underdog outright victories. And to give you just a little 1901 01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:59,000 Speaker 1: bit more context on this, there were multiple sports books, 1902 01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:04,120 Speaker 1: including DraftKings Sportsbook, which noted that the Detroit Lions were 1903 01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:06,880 Speaker 1: the team that took the most point spread tickets and 1904 01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:09,960 Speaker 1: the most points spread money and again they were in 1905 01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:14,800 Speaker 1: countless money line parlays this week, and looking over Draft 1906 01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:19,320 Speaker 1: Kings numbers heading into Sunday NFL Week nine, the most 1907 01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:22,559 Speaker 1: popular teams against the spread The teams taking the most 1908 01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:26,160 Speaker 1: tickets the Lions, the Patriots, the Colts, one two and three. 1909 01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:29,400 Speaker 1: The team's taking the most money against the spread, the Lions, 1910 01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:33,000 Speaker 1: the Patriots, the Colts. The Lions lose outright, the Colts 1911 01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:37,160 Speaker 1: lose outright, the Patriots don't cover the spread. So a 1912 01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:40,360 Speaker 1: good day to be a Draft Kings customer as well 1913 01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:43,479 Speaker 1: as customers of other sportsbooks across the country, because none 1914 01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:46,240 Speaker 1: of those those three teams covered, and two of those 1915 01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:51,439 Speaker 1: three teams lost outright. So Pittsburgh Steelers beating the Indianapolis Colts. 1916 01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:53,840 Speaker 1: The Steelers were at home there so as a short 1917 01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:57,840 Speaker 1: home relatively short home favorite, So again just further demonstrating 1918 01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:01,720 Speaker 1: how the day went for the public betting masses. If 1919 01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:05,360 Speaker 1: they were on them, especially those super popular teams, then 1920 01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:09,519 Speaker 1: the sportsbooks made out pretty well this week. Now we've 1921 01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:11,840 Speaker 1: still got the Monday night game to look forward to. 1922 01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:15,439 Speaker 1: That is the Cardinals against the Cowboys. Not the most 1923 01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:19,000 Speaker 1: exhilarating matchup, but the Cowboys are super popular at Draft 1924 01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:22,559 Speaker 1: Kings on the spread, eighty five percent of spread tickets, 1925 01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:25,559 Speaker 1: eighty percent of spread money coming in on Dallas. Dallas's 1926 01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:28,400 Speaker 1: minus three and a half, and they're even eschewing the 1927 01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:30,679 Speaker 1: points spread to some degree and taking Dallas minus point 1928 01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:35,000 Speaker 1: eighty on the money line. Similar bet percentage and handle percentage. 1929 01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:37,280 Speaker 1: It's all Dallas in this game. They're gonna want the 1930 01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:40,280 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals on Monday night, but honestly, the books did 1931 01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:43,120 Speaker 1: so well on Sunday that it probably doesn't matter much. 1932 01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:45,560 Speaker 1: So they're having a good week for the book, a 1933 01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:47,920 Speaker 1: bad week for the public in NFL Week nine. 1934 01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:48,240 Speaker 2: Odds. 1935 01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:50,439 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you all next Sunday night. 1936 01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:52,559 Speaker 3: All right, that'll do it here on the Actionary Podcast 1937 01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:56,000 Speaker 3: for our NFL Week nine recap episode presented by DraftKings. 1938 01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:58,040 Speaker 3: Give us a like on the YouTube video before you 1939 01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:00,439 Speaker 3: take off. We really appreciate it. 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