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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: A heart breaking final photo shows a new bride and

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Speaker 2: groom beaming just moments after their wedding as they take

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Speaker 2: off in a golf cart, just before a drunk driver

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Speaker 2: plows into the neelyweds, killing the bride. I'm Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us

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Speaker 2: here at Fox Nation in series XM one eleven. First

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Speaker 2: of all, I'll take a listen to our friends at

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Speaker 2: wc IV.

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Speaker 3: Sam Miller and her fiance Eric Hutchinson had been together

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Speaker 3: for three years.

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Speaker 4: I've never seen the light in her eyes shine as

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Speaker 4: bright as that.

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Speaker 3: April twenty eighth, Samantha Miller and Eric Hutchinson vowed to

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Speaker 3: spend the rest of their lives together.

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Speaker 5: It was the best day of her life.

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Speaker 3: A beach ceremony, dancing and drinks to follow.

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Speaker 6: And now it's a surprise dance for the most important

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Speaker 6: person in Sam's life, which was me, and we danced

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Speaker 6: to Bruno Mars Just the Way you Are, That's our song.

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Speaker 3: The happy couple left the reception under a canopy of sparklers.

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Speaker 6: On the beginning of the golf cart ride, she said,

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Speaker 6: I wish this s Nike could go on forever.

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Speaker 7: It's the best matter for life.

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Speaker 2: You were hearing the voice when you heard someone say

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Speaker 2: it was the best day of her life. They announced

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Speaker 2: a surprise dance for the most important person in Sam's life.

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Speaker 2: You're hearing the voice of Sam Samantha mother Lisa Miller,

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Speaker 2: and joining us right now is Lisa Miller, mother of

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Speaker 2: the bride, Samantha Miller. Miss Miller. First of all, we

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Speaker 2: are so sorry, deeply, profoundly sorry for what you and

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Speaker 2: your family in the groom are living through right now.

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Speaker 2: It's really hard to put words to it. It's not

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Speaker 2: just a passing, it's the end of a whole future.

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Speaker 8: Together.

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Speaker 2: Describe Miss Miller that night, the reception, the dance. You

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Speaker 2: are describing Bruno Mars.

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Speaker 7: So the night was incredible. She typical Sam. I don't

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Speaker 7: know if you guys have seen the picture, but she

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Speaker 7: got to the wedding and of course it's a beach venue,

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Speaker 7: so there's nowhere for her to hide, you know, in

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Speaker 7: her dress. So she literally when I knew they were here,

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Speaker 7: her dad brought her in his Forerunner and she was

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Speaker 7: laying in the back of the Forerunner on her stomach

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Speaker 7: with her legs up in the air, smiling so big,

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Speaker 7: so happy, rewriting her vowels because they were messy. She

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Speaker 7: didn't want him to be messy.

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Speaker 2: So let me understand. Sam was lying on her tummy

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Speaker 2: in her wedding dress in the back of da Forerunner

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Speaker 2: with her feet up in the air to fit on

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Speaker 2: the seat, rewrite her vows.

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Speaker 7: It was the funniest sight ever. But that's Sam like

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Speaker 7: she she doesn't care about you know, she just quirky

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Speaker 7: maybe is the word. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: A free spirit, yes, a free spirit for sure.

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Speaker 7: And away moving forward, the wedding started. Their vows ended

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Speaker 7: up being almost exactly alike, which is pretty cool. And

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Speaker 7: they did not write them together. And then the energy,

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Speaker 7: I mean there was food and drinks and all that,

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Speaker 8: She did her.

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Speaker 7: Father daughter dance. They did their first dance to John Legend.

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Speaker 7: I think it's called you Move, I Move. Sammy's never

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Speaker 7: been a dancer, her sister's dancer, like she used to

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Speaker 7: dance like a lane on Seinfield. And all of a

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Speaker 7: sudden she was up there dancing with her husband to

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Speaker 7: that John Legend song and she's swaying like to the

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Speaker 7: music and just beautiful. It's a beautiful video. Sorry, but anyway,

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Speaker 7: so she danced with her her both her dads after that,

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Speaker 7: surprised dance for the most important person in Sam's life.

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Speaker 7: And that moment right there tell us a lot about Sam.

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Speaker 7: She loved like no other person. She that I might

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Speaker 7: just feel a little bit weird not having a dance

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Speaker 7: with my daughter, you know, even though it's not traditional,

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Speaker 7: but we're not traditional people for sure. And her and

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Speaker 7: I just from the moment she was born, her whole life.

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Speaker 7: I mean, she's just my best friend. And then I

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Speaker 7: keep thinking of these interjections like.

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Speaker 2: So that dance was for you.

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Speaker 7: That dance was for me.

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Speaker 8: The yeah, and at the end when he's saying you're

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Speaker 8: amazing just the way you are, and that we're just

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Speaker 7: Know, and because we both felt the same about each other,

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Speaker 7: that was our our song and it was a moment

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Speaker 7: who Sam is, I mean. And then after that, oh,

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Speaker 7: it was time for the DJ and dancing and the

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Speaker 7: energy in that pavilion and all these different groups of

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Speaker 7: people because there was people from Charlotte, and there's people

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Speaker 7: from Utah where Eric came from, and people from Folly Beach,

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Speaker 7: and you know, so a lot of people didn't know.

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Speaker 7: It wasn't like everybody knew everybody, but it was like

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Speaker 7: everybody was one and everybody was celebrating Sam. Sam.

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Speaker 2: Then what happened? Did they do the traditional They cut

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Speaker 2: the cake, They ate the cake, They danced the night away.

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Speaker 7: Her sister made her cake for her, and she didn't

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Speaker 7: want like a wedding cake, wedding cake. She just wanted

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Speaker 7: so Eric loved pineapple. So that's another moment. They were

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Speaker 7: doing the cake on their own. It was just for them.

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Speaker 7: It wasn't for anybody else, So they just did that

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Speaker 2: You are hearing the voice of Sam's mom, Lisa Miller.

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Speaker 2: How could something so wonderful go so wrong? Take a

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Speaker 2: listen to our friends a crime online.

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Speaker 9: The Pelican Watch Pavilion is a public beach from in

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Speaker 9: Folly Beach. The twelve hundred square foot facility is a

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Speaker 9: popular wedding spot. After their five PM wedding, Eric Hitchinson

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Speaker 9: and Samantha Miller enjoy their reception and about nine to

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Speaker 9: forty five pm. The couple is ready to leave. The

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Speaker 9: couple gets into the backseat of a fully equipped golf

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Speaker 9: cart being driven by the bride's brother in law and nephew.

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Speaker 9: The vehicle has lights and is legal to drive on

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Speaker 9: the road. The golf cart pulls out along East Ashley Avenue,

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Speaker 9: a two lane road that runs parallel to the ocean.

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Speaker 9: The speed limit is just twenty five miles an hour.

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Speaker 9: It should have taken them just minutes to travel the

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Speaker 2: Miss Miller, when your daughter left, they had a very

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Speaker 2: short distance to go from the ceremony from the reception. Yes,

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Speaker 2: what happened, So they did.

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Speaker 7: Their Sparkler exit.

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Speaker 2: Was the Sparkler exit.

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Speaker 7: Where everybody lines up in lights sparklers and they go underneath.

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Speaker 7: It was beautiful, the happiest I've ever seen her in

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Speaker 7: her life. They got on the golf cart. They left

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Speaker 7: ten minutes later. We went to our airbnb, which was

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Speaker 7: before there, so they were still traveling. I started hearing sirens.

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Speaker 7: We were on the porch at the airbnb. I started

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Speaker 7: hearing sirens, and literally I looked at my daughter and

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Speaker 7: I said, something happened to Sam. I knew something that

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Speaker 2: What do you mean you looked at your daughter? What

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Speaker 7: I just knew that that's what happened, like my intuition

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Speaker 7: with her, like we feel each other.

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Speaker 2: Your other You looked at your other daughter and you said,

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Speaker 7: You knew something happened to Sam. I knew that the

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Speaker 7: sirens meant that Sam. It was Sam. I knew it

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Speaker 7: was something happened to Sam while they were on the

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Speaker 7: I knew it. It's the weirdest thing. Ever, what did

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Speaker 7: you do? Right after that happened? Eric's sister in law

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Speaker 7: team drove by and she said, have you heard? And

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Speaker 7: I'm like, no, I haven't heard, But I just said,

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Speaker 7: let me know she was okay. And then the family

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Speaker 7: was like had a really bad movie. Anyway, my ex husband,

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Speaker 7: And we were told by somebody I don't know who

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Speaker 7: then finally Sam's dad called and told me that Samantha

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Speaker 7: and that she had been killed. And like the daughter

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Speaker 7: gets plowed down by a drunk driver on her wedding

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know that anything can be any worse.

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Speaker 2: Wristmas Miller. So you get to the scene. You're told

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Speaker 2: Sam is still at the scene.

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Speaker 7: she's been killed. One of those phone calls. I won't

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Speaker 2: Did you leave the hospital and go to the scene.

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Speaker 2: Guys, you're hearing the voice of Samantha's mom. Samantha's mother

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Speaker 2: Lisa Miller, the mother of the bride, telling one of

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Speaker 2: the most heartbreaking stories I've ever heard in my life.

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for being with us who plowed

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Speaker 2: Steven Eisenberg is with us. Expert in golf and golf

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Speaker 10: No, this type of You're right, Nancy, This type of

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Speaker 2: So what I'm saying, Sidney Heiberger, and I'm going to

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Speaker 11: Yeah, NNTY, You're absolutely right, and for that very reason,

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Speaker 12: The couple lived on James Island. On Friday night, friends

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Speaker 12: The bride's brother in law and nephew were in the front,

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Speaker 2: So let me circle back to you, Sidney Heiberger joining

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Speaker 11: That's my understanding, Yes, and I understand that the groom

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Speaker 2: Yeah, miss Miller, is that you? Yes, that's tell me

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Speaker 7: The eric's brother in law offered to drive them back

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Speaker 7: And my understanding of what happens this person was intoxicated,

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Speaker 13: That, and.

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Speaker 7: Left intoxicated or on drugs or something, and just was

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Speaker 7: If that's where she was going, there's nothing really down

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Speaker 2: Take a listen to our cut ten from Wcivy.

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Speaker 3: According to Fowley Beach Public Safety, twenty five year old

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Speaker 6: She literally ran into my daughter going sixty five miles

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Speaker 3: The groom's mom. Gofund Me says the hit forced the

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Speaker 4: Daughter, at all the one hundred and fifty people that

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Speaker 3: Sam and Eric were two blocks away from their home

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Speaker 6: And we just got out of the truck and just

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Speaker 3: Sam, a real life nightmare caution tape.

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Speaker 12: So many lights, Yeah it was dark, but there's so

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Speaker 2: Sam, I want to go straight back to Sydney. Heiburger

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Speaker 2: with Queen City News. I'm just trying to figure out, Sydney.

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Speaker 11: Well, Anthey, she's a twenty five year old who has

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Speaker 2: Ate joining me right now is Stacey D. Stewart, CEO

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Speaker 2: of Mothers Against Drunk Driving, known as MAD. Stacy, thank

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Speaker 14: And thank you, Nancy.

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Speaker 15: And first let me just say this, Milla.

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Speaker 14: We are so deeply sorry for your loss. This is

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Speaker 14: This never should have happened. And you know, MAD is

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Speaker 7: Death and injury.

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Speaker 14: Unfortunately the way we've lost sam and it's so sad

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Speaker 2: Doctor Gallagher, thank you for being with us. It's my

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Speaker 16: So my understanding is this was a rollover accident. But

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Speaker 16: This is just an.

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Speaker 10: Awful, terrible story.

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Speaker 16: I don't know how it could be worse. Nancy. What

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Speaker 16: Absolutely, so there is no suffering in this type of

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Speaker 2: Sidney Heiberger, did you tell me that this woman, this

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Speaker 11: Yes, Nancy, that is my understanding she had a prior.

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Speaker 2: Joining me right now. In addition to miss Miller, Sam's

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Speaker 2: It's not like you hit a car where you've got

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Speaker 2: I've never for today, I've never seen them on a

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Speaker 2: golf car.

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Speaker 10: Ever, Well, this type of vehicle is not really for

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Speaker 10: a golf course. It's not technically a golf car. By

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Speaker 10: definitional low speed vehicle is for use on roads or

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Speaker 10: for use in gated communities, but it isn't typically used

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Speaker 10: on a golf for self, especially being a four seater,

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Speaker 10: so it really wouldn't be a golf car.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying it may have had a seat belt correct.

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Speaker 2: Made Jason Jensen, private investigator Jason If she reeked of

447
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Speaker 2: alcohol the suspect Jamie Lee Komarowski, there is no way

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Speaker 2: she had one beer and one drink with tequila in it.

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Speaker 2: If you are king, you've had a lot more than that.

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Speaker 13: I would agree with the nancy. I mean typically, what

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Speaker 13: we see here is the pattern of evolution of where

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Speaker 13: the this type of offender you referred to her earlier

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Speaker 13: as potentially a habitual offender. What we see here is

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Speaker 13: the progression of a worsening violator. Where typically, if it's

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Speaker 13: your first DUI, you're pulled over, you're apologetic. You know

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Speaker 13: everyone would expect you to learn your lesson and not.

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Speaker 10: Do it again.

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Speaker 13: But here she's progressed to where now she's refusing breathalyzer,

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Speaker 13: she's not cooperating, she's clearly left in an agitated state,

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Speaker 13: well beyond her alcohol levels that are permissible by most dates.

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Speaker 13: So you know, she didn't learn anything from.

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Speaker 7: Her prior offense.

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Speaker 13: Here she is. Now she's gone to the extreme of

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Speaker 13: killing people in the process. So it is a motor

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Speaker 13: vehicle accident in the context that vehicles were involved, but

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Speaker 13: there's criminal elements because she was reckless.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's an accident. I may be parsing

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Speaker 2: words with you, Jason Jenson, all this a crash because

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Speaker 2: and I guarantee you Stacy D. Stewart is going to

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Speaker 2: agree with me. CEO of Mad Mother's against drunk driving

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Speaker 2: because it's a decision to go to a bar and drink.

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Speaker 2: Officers noted, and I quote, Komorowski was quote a very

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Speaker 2: unsteading on her feet and almost fell down. They asked

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Speaker 2: her to rate her level of impairment one to ten.

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Speaker 2: She said in eight. The officer states, and I quote,

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Speaker 2: I smelled an odor of alcohol coming from her breath

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Speaker 2: and person. So this woman was literally stinking drunk. Stacy Stewart.

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Speaker 2: For her to admit to drinks means she's had a

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Speaker 2: whole lot more. But she knows enough, Stacy not to

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Speaker 2: take the breathalyzer. I mean, one night, I was coming

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Speaker 2: home from an investigation on an arson murder, and I

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Speaker 2: stayed with the victim's friend, a piano teacher, till eleven

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Speaker 2: thirty at night, and was just talking, looking at pictures,

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Speaker 2: talking about their friendship and about the victim. I was

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Speaker 2: driving home now is about a quarter of twelve. I

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Speaker 2: got pulled over. The officer actually asked me to do

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Speaker 2: a breathalyzer. And I know better than to argue. I'm like, sure,

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Speaker 2: I'll do a breath lizer. You have to know better,

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Speaker 2: or know why you should tell a cop who's giving

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Speaker 2: you a directive to say no, I'm telling you this

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Speaker 2: ain't her first time at the rodeo.

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Speaker 14: Stacy Stewart, Well, this is a crash that, again could

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Speaker 14: have been preventable. One of the things that we're working

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Speaker 14: on at MAD in South Carolina in particular, because the

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Speaker 14: past two years, Nancy, we have seen an extraordinary increase

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Speaker 14: in drunk driving fatalities in the country and especially in

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Speaker 14: South Carolina. You know, the past two years, we've seen

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Speaker 14: double digit increases in drunk driving fatalities in by fourteen

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Speaker 14: percent each year in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, and

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Speaker 14: then even more in South Carolina. The laws in South

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Speaker 14: Carolina has.

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Speaker 17: To be changed.

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Speaker 7: Right now, if you're if you.

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Speaker 14: Are found that your BAC level is above one point

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Speaker 14: eight or even above one point one five, which is

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Speaker 14: even higher than legally allowed, that's that is the trigger

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Speaker 14: for what we call ignition interlock, the kind of technology

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Speaker 14: that would disable your car if you are if you

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Speaker 14: are intoxicated. Right now, you can be below one point five,

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Speaker 14: still get in the car, drawing, and your car will

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Speaker 14: still go. And that is part of the laws that

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Speaker 14: we need to change we're working on in South Carolina.

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Speaker 14: It possibly could have prevented this from happening.

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Speaker 2: This occurred in Folly Bait, South Carolina, where I believe

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Speaker 2: the legal leminus point zero eight. If that's wrong, somebody

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Speaker 2: correct me.

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Speaker 17: It is.

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Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grease.

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Speaker 2: Joining us now is Sarah Ford, Legal director of South

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Speaker 2: Carolina Victims Assistance Network. Sarah, this is your neck of

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Speaker 2: the woods. This is Foley Beach, South Carolina. Isn't the

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Speaker 2: legal limit point zero eight?

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Speaker 13: Yes?

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Speaker 2: No, that's correct, Sarah Ford. We heard someone earlier state

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Speaker 2: that this was an accident. That's total bs. This is

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Speaker 2: no accident. This is a crash. And I frankly believe

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Speaker 2: and have advocated cases just like this. One should not

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Speaker 2: be a vehicular homicide. This should be a murder, and

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you why, because it takes intent, Sarah. It

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Speaker 2: takes intent for you to belly up to a bar

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Speaker 2: and not have one, but two, and we believe many

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Speaker 2: more drinks. Then you get the key to your car,

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Speaker 2: You walk to your car, get into your car, crank

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Speaker 2: it up, knowing you've been dreaming, put it in reverse,

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Speaker 2: and start driving. She knew perfectly well that she was

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Speaker 2: driving drunk. And as you know, under the law, we

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Speaker 2: are to infer that the defendant intends the natural consequence

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Speaker 2: of their act. Those are not my words. That's the

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Speaker 2: black and white letter of the law. The law presumes

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Speaker 2: you intend the natural consequence of your act. When you

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Speaker 2: are driving drunk to the point that you literally stink

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Speaker 2: a booze, the natural consequence is a wreck. That means intent.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to get in the car and say, oh,

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Speaker 2: I intend to mow down Sam on the night of

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Speaker 2: her wedding. No, that's not what intent is under the law.

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Speaker 2: I believe this should be a flat out murder thoughts.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right if you were choices

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Speaker 15: that were made by this defendant, in these choices that

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Speaker 15: tried to consequences, you know, for for these people, for

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Speaker 15: these families. It's absolutely horrific. And being a you know,

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Speaker 15: a South Carolina residents going to Colley Beach is incomprehensible

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Speaker 15: traveling sixty five miles per hour on that road. You know,

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Speaker 15: it's it's absolutely horrific. Absolutely try to and I agree,

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Speaker 15: I do believe they should should increase the charges against

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Speaker 15: this suspect and charge her with felony d UI with death.

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Speaker 15: That's a mandatory minimum of one year to twenty five years.

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Speaker 2: That's a good way to approach it, Sarah, that's a

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Speaker 2: very good that's a brilliant legal thought. Actually, felony murder,

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Speaker 2: which means a death occurred during the commission of a felony.

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Speaker 2: Miss Miller joining us and Miss Miller. If if I

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Speaker 2: hear the facts again, I think I will break down

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Speaker 2: and cry right along with you. Tell me how is Eric.

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Speaker 7: He physically is improving every day. I had a reconstruction

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Speaker 7: on his face surgery yesterday. He's had a couple surgeries

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Speaker 7: on his feet and legs. But he will be okay

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Speaker 7: physically eventually. He's got a long, long, long word. Emotionally,

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Speaker 7: I'm very close with Eric, and he's like Sam's twin

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Speaker 7: basically where it comes to their heart and how they feel.

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Speaker 7: We always kind of used to laugh and call him

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Speaker 7: and cry baby, but just choke log. He just he

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Speaker 7: feels so deep. So that's a good thing when things

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Speaker 7: are good, and it's a really bad thing, especially now

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Speaker 7: because he's gonna have a really hard road emotionally moving forward.

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Speaker 7: And our plan is my plan is to try to

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Speaker 7: get here on James Island or in South Carolina permanently

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Speaker 7: so that I can be there for him because he

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Speaker 7: doesn't want to leave.

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Speaker 2: I got to tell you, just from my own experience,

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Speaker 2: it it changes the rest of your life.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, you're.

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Speaker 2: Never the same. How did Eric learn that Sam had

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Speaker 2: actually passed away?

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Speaker 7: When he first was in the hospital, he was kind

584
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Speaker 7: of in and out of consciousness for a while, and honestly,

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Speaker 7: that day, the timeline is kind of blurry to me,

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Speaker 7: but his brother was with him, and eventually when he

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Speaker 7: kind of came back to conscious he told him. So

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Speaker 7: he was. Yeah, he was made aware as soon as

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Speaker 7: he came to So it wasn't was it right that?

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Speaker 7: I don't know if it was that night or the

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Speaker 7: next morning.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, Eric has been tiedled as being in serious condition.

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Speaker 2: He has had so far one of two reconstruction surgeries,

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Speaker 2: numerous broken bones, and a brain injury. To doctor Tim Gallagher.

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Speaker 2: When this woman, Jamie Lee Komarowski, plowed into Sam and Eric,

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Speaker 2: it pushed the golf cart one hundred yards rollover, rollover, rollover.

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Speaker 2: What would have caused the brain injury on the young groom?

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Speaker 7: Well, it's a good question.

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Speaker 16: Typically what we see and I'm looking at the picture

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Speaker 16: of him laying in the hospital bed and if you

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Speaker 16: look at his eyes, you can see that his eyes

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Speaker 16: underneath his eyes are black and blue with something we

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Speaker 16: would call raccoon eyes. Typically, what thames is that the skull,

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Speaker 16: the skull and the bones of the face have been fractured.

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Speaker 16: And when the face and the are fractured, the shards

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Speaker 16: of the bone of the fractured bone actually penetrate into

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Speaker 16: the brain itself, and that's what causes a lot of

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Speaker 16: the injury.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm looking at a lot of the posts

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Speaker 2: to doctor Sherry Schwartz, forensic psychologist of Kamarowski, and in

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Speaker 2: almost every post I see she's holding alcohol. This is

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Speaker 2: the woman who refused to take a field sobriety test

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Speaker 2: after the fatal crash not accident crash.

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Here she is standing on a deck outside drinking alcohol.

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Speaker 2: Here she is, and this is what she's posting off herself.

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Speaker 2: Here she is just as bud light ear and a

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Speaker 2: pair of hotpants. Here she is drinking. I mean, every

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Speaker 2: one is related to alcohol. Every one of these pictures

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Speaker 2: explain that.

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Speaker 5: Well, here's what we know about drivers who drive well intoxicated.

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Speaker 5: Two thirds, more than two thirds, tend to have alcoholism problems.

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Speaker 7: Or drug abuse. Problems.

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Speaker 5: They tend to have more than one d UI.

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Speaker 2: Let me add something, doctor Schwartz, you need to know

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Speaker 2: this fact too. She posts a photo of herself just

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Speaker 2: as bud light Year, a play on the toy story character,

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Speaker 2: in tight shorts, crop top with bud light boxes wrapped

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Speaker 2: around her legs and ankles and the caption raised to

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Speaker 2: infinity and be ranged. In other words, just drunk out

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Speaker 2: of your mind.

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Speaker 5: Well, the other thing that we know is that these

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Speaker 5: are individuals who are low in conscientiousness and high and

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Speaker 5: antisocial characteristics such that they are unconcerned about content sequences

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Speaker 5: of their behavior. And hearing about that particular post right

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Speaker 5: with bud light Year, what this tells me is this

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Speaker 5: is someone who has incorporated as part of her identity

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Speaker 5: the humor in being having this relationship with alcohol and unhealthy,

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Speaker 5: clearly unhealthy relationship. And as someone who has previously been

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Speaker 5: in legal trouble with a DUI, she's savvy enough to

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Speaker 5: say I'm not going to blow into a breathalyzer, which

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Speaker 5: tells me that she had consciousness of mine to know

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Speaker 5: that she shouldn't be driving.

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Speaker 11: And this is Sydney Heiberger again with Queen City News

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Speaker 11: let me jump in here. I just was going through

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Speaker 11: her record, and I do see at least three different

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Speaker 11: speeding violations previously, or two different speeding violations, and one

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Speaker 11: failure to use a turn or stop signal. She pled

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Speaker 11: guilty to all of those, but I do not see

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Speaker 11: prior to UI.

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Speaker 7: I think it was because she was under age. It

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Speaker 7: was twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Yes, who is speaking right now? Is that Miss Miller? Yes,

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Speaker 2: Miss Miller. On her adult record, we see a lot

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Speaker 2: of speeding and other traffic violations, but there seems to

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Speaker 2: be evidence that there may be a prior duy when

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Speaker 2: she was a minor.

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Speaker 7: Yes, we saw another mug shut. I'm a drug and

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Speaker 7: alcohol counselor, so it's kind of crazy, but I think

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Speaker 7: that what we have here is a young lady that

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Speaker 7: has been bailed out because she her family has money

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Speaker 7: and is not been held accountable for any of her

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Speaker 7: poor choices that she's made. And when you continue to

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Speaker 7: bail somebody out, they're never going to learn, and she

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Speaker 7: has not suffered any consequences, so she continues the same behavior,

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Speaker 7: and unfortunately it happens a lot and a lot of

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Speaker 7: my patients that I deal with, they've been enabled, and

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Speaker 7: their parents take care of everything and fix it and

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Speaker 7: trying to protect them, but they're not really protecting them.

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Speaker 7: Because now my daughter's dead.

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Speaker 2: You can find out about they GoFundMe that's been put together.

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Speaker 2: It's go fund me. Samattha Miller Dash gone too soon,

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Speaker 2: Miss Miller. When you are alone, when you're back at

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Speaker 2: your place, when you put your head to your pillow,

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Speaker 2: do you feel Sam is with you? What is your

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Speaker 2: state of mind right now?

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Speaker 7: I haven't been home yet, and I haven't been alone yet,

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Speaker 7: and I can't even think of that. I'm not going

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Speaker 7: to be okay if I'm home alone. So my daughter

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Speaker 7: is here from Florida and going with me to Charlotte

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Speaker 7: and then we'll coming back here and sticking right by

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Speaker 7: me because I can't be alone. I always said, anything

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Speaker 7: happens to one of my kids, I'm done. And my

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Speaker 7: daughter Mandy made me promise the other day that that

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Speaker 7: would not happen because she needs me.

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Speaker 2: She does She needs you so much, and around the world,

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Speaker 2: across our country, people need to hear your voice. They

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Speaker 2: need to hear your voice speaking out about what happened

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Speaker 2: to Sam and that somehow, some way you may be

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Speaker 2: able to stop it from happening, even just one more time.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I can't thank you enough for being with us today

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Speaker 2: and representing Sam in such an incredible way. Your story

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Speaker 2: has really touched all of our hearts. Thank you if

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Speaker 2: you have any information that can help the Folly Beach

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Speaker 2: Police Doll eight four three five eight eight twenty four

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Speaker 2: thirty three Repeat eight four three, five eight eight twenty

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Speaker 2: four thirty three. Our prayers go on for Sam's family

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Speaker 2: and groom. Goodbye friend,