1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Hi. This is Laura Vandercamp. I'm a mother of five, 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah Hartunger. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm a mother of three, a practicing physician and blogger. 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: On the side, we are two working parents who love 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: our careers and our families. Welcome to best of both worlds. 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: and time for fun, from figuring out childcare to mapping 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: out long term career goals. We want you to get 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: the most out of life. Welcome to best of both worlds. 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: This is Laura. This is episode two hundred and forty one, 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: which is airing in mid March of twenty twenty two. 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: Sarah is going to be interviewing Molly Beck, who is 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: a amazing tech entrepreneur has wonderful thoughts on building a 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: career and a family in that world. She is also 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: a best of both worlds listener, and we are hoping 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: to bring on lots of listeners as guests as they 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: talk about how they are combining work in life. So 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: we are very excited to have Molly on talking about 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: her life. So speaking of life right now, work in life, Sarah, 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: It's birthday party season in your household with all your 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: people having birthdays together in one fell swoop. I mean 22 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: they're not that close together, but Annabelle and Cameron are 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: only six weeks apart. I mean they're like almost two 24 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: years apart, but you know what I'm saying. And then 25 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: Genevieve is like two months prior to Cameron, so it 26 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: just feel and then there's holidays and stuff, so it's 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: like December, February, April, and then by the time each 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: birthday gets done, I'm like, oh my god, I need 29 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,639 Speaker 1: to like figure out the next birthday like at that moment. 30 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: And we didn't do a lot of parties during like 31 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: the thick of COVID, but we're definitely back to doing 32 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: them now. So I as we are recording this and 33 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: by the time this airs, I'll just have happy memories 34 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: of this party, hopefully, But right now I'm like, oh, 35 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,639 Speaker 1: because we're we're doing a video game truck, which seems 36 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: like it would be so easy, and it felt easy 37 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: when I reserved it, but I decided I did that 38 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: we have a lot more room to park the truck 39 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: at our new house versus our old house, like it 40 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,279 Speaker 1: would really kind of like clog up the whole street 41 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: at our old house. So I did it for our 42 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: new house, which is fine. Our new house is like 43 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: a several blocks from our old house. But then it 44 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: occurred to me that, like number one, I have like 45 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: nowhere for parents to sit, and apparently a lot of 46 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: parents are coming, and like I got a lot of 47 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: people who were like, oh, I'm bringing my two other kids, okay, 48 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, which is fine. I don't mind 49 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: it because I like bringing my kids to things together. 50 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: But so I need to like have a place for parents. 51 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: I have to hope that the weather is good and 52 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: we haven't moved whatsoever, and our house is still dusty 53 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: and like not pretty, and I'm like, I have to 54 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: clean a bathroom, like people are gonna have to come 55 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: in this house. And then I'm sort of like embarrassed 56 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: by the fact that it's a completely empty, dusty house, 57 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: and I just I don't know, like it's a lot. 58 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: And now I'm just like, why didn't I do it 59 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: at a venue where I could have not had to 60 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: do anything? And thankfully Annabelle has requested an ice skating party, 61 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: which will be nowhere near my house. I will have 62 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: to do nothing but write a check and I'm super 63 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: super thankful. Yay. Yeah, doing it at venues is always 64 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: a great solution because yes, you generally just invite people 65 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: and then sit back and you know, maybe you have 66 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: to choose which pizza or something, but other than that, 67 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: you don't have to do much. We are in the 68 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: family birthday desert right now as much as you can, 69 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: and a family of seven people have a birthday desert. 70 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: But between Alex and January and then Jasper in May, 71 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: we don't have anything. Well, I guess Max the dog 72 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: is theoretically February, but I don't feel the need to 73 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: throw him a party. So we are we're in the 74 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: no zone right now. But Henry, by the time this 75 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: airs will have actually gone to his first friend birthday party. 76 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: He was invited to something. It's so cute. Really just 77 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: kind of tickled about that idea that he has his 78 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: own friends. Alex turned seven right at the sort of 79 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: peak of omicron and so I kind of assume a 80 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: lot of parents weren't going to want to go to 81 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: like a bouncy house type place at the time, So 82 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: we wound up having an outdoor party at a local 83 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: playground and it was actually really cool. Like it was 84 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: we just you know, had a handful of kids. It 85 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: was like six other kids come. It was cold, but 86 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't you know, So we only did an hour 87 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: because it was cold, and we did it late in 88 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: the afternoon on Martin Luther King Day that Monday, because 89 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, it was the long weekend and so everyone 90 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: was so happy to have something to bring their kid 91 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: to by late afternoon on Monday that people were just like, oh, yes, 92 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: I'm so glad to get out of the house. We 93 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: got hot chocolate from Dunkin Donuts and the munchkins, the 94 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: little donuts, and people loved it, you know, because everyone 95 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: loves donuts and hot chocolate. Yeah, it was. It was 96 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: really cool. So I would say that was one of 97 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: our maybe better birthday parties. And it was pretty low key, 98 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: but it just in terms of how much fun the 99 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: kids had, it was right up there. I love the 100 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: fact that it was that short because then you basically 101 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: it's not like you need a pavilion or like a 102 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: place to sit or feel like you're hosting people for 103 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: this extended thing. You're just like you're taking your kid 104 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: to the playground like you normally would you're going to 105 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: stand around or sit wherever, and we have donuts and 106 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: hot chocolates. So that is that is beautiful. That was 107 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: just good job. Yeah. I mean the thing is, I 108 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: don't know that we could have gotten away with that 109 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: on like a beautiful may Day, right, Like the reason 110 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: it worked is it was a January Monday, and so 111 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: nobody else was at the playground, Like we had the 112 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: place to ourselves except for like two teenage boys who 113 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: were playing on the basketball court. Like, I mean, that 114 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: was it, right, And so it kind of was like 115 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: our own party venue and I could just have the 116 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: entire picnic area without making a reservation or anything, you know. 117 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: So it was so low key because of that. But yeah, 118 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: we did the video game truck thing once for Sam. 119 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: That was fun and it's pretty easy birthday party idea too, 120 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: if you as long as you have somewhere flat for 121 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: the park the truck to park, which turns out to 122 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: be harder than one might imagine in not in Florida. Well, 123 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: this part of Pennsylvania. You need a flat spot, and 124 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: my driveway it's not flat. That's so we parked in 125 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: the road. But of course then I had to make 126 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: sure like none of my neighbors were going to park 127 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: in the road there, right, you know, some like defending 128 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: five spots. Anyway, it was kind of funny. Party favors. 129 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on party favors? I just hate them, 130 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: I I agree. I mean the party favors that I've 131 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: gotten that have been good have been like the kid 132 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: makes a T shirt during the party and that's your favor. 133 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: Love that. But I don't really feel like I have 134 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: the energy to like do tied eye or anything. I mean, 135 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: I guess I could. That wouldn't be that hard, but 136 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: that sound terrible. My one A very memorable favor was 137 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: a party we went to where they gave this like 138 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: globe that like repeat it was some toy. It was 139 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: probably she said she got them like at ross at 140 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: some crazy deep discounted rate. It was probably a toy 141 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: that would have been twenty five dollars or something, but 142 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: she said she got them for like eight dollars each. 143 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: And I think I may try to go to that 144 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: route and like see if I can find some. We 145 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: have like a Tuesday Morning and a Ross near us, 146 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: as well as the good old Dollar store. So Josh 147 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: said he will take Cameron on Saturday parties on Sunday 148 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: and they'll look for like one random, deeply discounted thing 149 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: because I just hate the little bags of crap like 150 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: they bother me. And we did a no gifts this year. 151 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: I know this. I got this a little bit from 152 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: my sister in law, so her kids have done no 153 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: gifts for years, just from a like we have enough 154 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: kind of standpoint, and also just because like a lot 155 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: of times you get stuff that's just like really ran, 156 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: Like you mentioned that when kids get older they just 157 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: exchanged gift cards, which that wouldn't really bother me, but 158 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: when you get just like a lot of random plastic 159 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: crap that plugs in and like, like, how much of 160 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: that stuff do you really need or use? We certainly 161 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: don't need or use any any more, or given that 162 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: we have three kids and like have amassed plenty and honestly, 163 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: what Cameron really wants to do with his time is 164 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: like play the Nintendo. So anyway, we just said no gifts, 165 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: and in order to make the kids feel better about that, 166 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: we told them we will get them like a sizeable 167 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: target gift card so that throughout the year, as they 168 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: see things that they want that maybe they would have 169 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: gotten for their birthday. They can purchase it themselves, and 170 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: that way they're choosing like things that they're really excited about, 171 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: rather than being showered with a whole bunch of random 172 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: stuff at once. And I'm super happy because I know 173 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm weird, but I get like depressed and distressed when 174 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: my kids have a pile of birthday gifts. I don't know, Okay, 175 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: I've made my piece at the lot of clutter. I 176 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: don't know. I agree with you on the party favor though, 177 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: I think it's best if it's either something that's like 178 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: intrinsic to the party itself. So like Ruth had a 179 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: you know, paint your own pottery party, which obviously your 180 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: thing was the pottery that you painted. That's pretty straightforward 181 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: thing that's associated with it. But I think your choice 182 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: if you're looking at like little bag of cheap crap, 183 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: like you're better off like going up a few dollars 184 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: and getting something actually cool, like you know, buy everyone 185 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: a copy of the kid's favorite book or a little 186 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: lego set or something, but you know, an actual thing 187 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: that would be good instead of saving a few dollars 188 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: and getting something that nobody wants. I think that's, you know, 189 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: maybe something you would try to decide to go up 190 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: a few dollars amount you like your friend dead who 191 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: got the cool toy for everyone? That sounds like maybe 192 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: the way to go on something like that. Well, anyway, 193 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: we will be uh, we'll keep you posted on how 194 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: the birthday parties went down. And now we'll be talking 195 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: to Mollie Well. I am so excited today to introduce 196 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: our guest, Molly Beck. Mollie has been a supporter and 197 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: listener of the show for quite some time, and it 198 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: is only natural that she come to join us today 199 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: to tell us all about how she dominates. She is 200 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: the CEO of Messi FM. It has had a really 201 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: fascinating career journey and has so much great stuff to share. 202 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: So go ahead, Molly, why don't you introduce yourself? Sarah. 203 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: I am just thrilled to be on this podcast today. 204 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: I really applaud what you and Laura have done. I 205 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: feel like that for me, it's been helpful and it's 206 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: been tangible, and it's really made me feel less alone 207 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: in this journey of motherhood. So I am just thrilled 208 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: to be here today. Okay, my name is Molly Beck. 209 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: I live outside of Orlando, Florida, and I live in Orlando, 210 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: Florida with my husband, Colin, who is an attorney for 211 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: a large hospitality company. And we have a four year 212 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: old boy, a two year old boy, and I am 213 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: six months pregnant with a very baby boy. So we 214 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: are just a boy family. And of course we have 215 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: our little dog, Blueberry, who is just the best part 216 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: of the family. And from Orlando, Florida, I run my 217 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: B to B software company, Messifm. We build internal podcast 218 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: solutions for enterprises, primarily focused on the university, government and 219 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: Fortune one thousand market. MESSI is a remote company, so 220 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: we have employees across the US, in Canada and in India, 221 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: and it's really a joy. Do you be able to 222 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: work with lots of customers, lots of teammates in this 223 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: wonderful new hybrid world from the Sunshine State. Yes, well, 224 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: this is a sunshine to sunshine conversation. Now, for those 225 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: of our listeners who are like me and doctors and 226 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: don't use words like B to B, what does that mean? 227 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: Because I know you pivoted at some point, I had 228 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 1: to do some of abbreviation learning. A great question, I'm 229 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: asked Okay, so there's two types of businesses. Largely, one 230 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: is called B to B. The B stand for business 231 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: to business, and one is called B two C, and 232 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: that would be business to consumer. The majority of the 233 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: products that you and I buy every day, toilet paper, lipsticks, Starbucks, 234 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: our B two C products, were buying them directly from 235 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: the business for us to use as consumers in our families. However, 236 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: there's also a large percentage of services accounting software. If 237 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: you wanted to buy that same toilet paper but in 238 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: mass for all of your locations, that are business to 239 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: business decisions, So someone at the business is making the decision, 240 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: typically through what's called the procurement department, to purchase it 241 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: for the business. So MESSIFM answer your question. Started out 242 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: as a B two C company, which means that we 243 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: created podcasting infrastructure for individuals. I got really excited about 244 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: that market because I was someone that had really benefited 245 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: from B two C web based services. As a blogger, 246 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: I was able to start a blog without knowing any 247 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: sort of back end coding because of service called WordPress existed, 248 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: could just jump on. It was all web based create 249 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: my blog, didn't have to learn any code, and when 250 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: I saw podcasting starting to replace blogging. I got really 251 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: excited about creating what at the time I was calling 252 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: the word press of paid pasts, making it really easy 253 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: for anyone to jump into the space. B two C 254 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: is a very interesting space because what typically happens and 255 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: what happened to MESSI is we had tons of users, 256 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: but those users typically don't pay too much money. So 257 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: you know a ton of users that are either on 258 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: freemium models, which means they start off as free users 259 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: and maybe you can upsell them to five ten. I 260 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: think our highest package was forty nine dollars a month. 261 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: Is a much different experience with instead of the B 262 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,599 Speaker 1: to B space, So the B two C space and 263 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: podcast hosting became crowded. Most people are familiar with Anchor. 264 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: We competed directly with Anchor for quite some time. This 265 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: is just such a side note, but something that happened 266 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: in my life that was very impactful is I was 267 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: like eight months pregnant with my second son. We were 268 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: competing directly with Anchor. I couldn't sleep because I had 269 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: pregnancy insomnia, and I was on the West Coast in California, 270 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: and I was refashioning Twitter, and I really think. I 271 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: was the first person to see the tweet from Spotify. 272 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: I went out at six am East Coast time saying 273 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: they had acquired Anchor, And that was a real turning 274 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: point in my business because it did two things at once. One, 275 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: it validated I was in the right space. It sounds 276 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: silly to say now, but just a couple of years ago, 277 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: the idea that podcasting would become as mainstream as music 278 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: listening was not really there. You know, you were a 279 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: podcaster before that. So it was validating that I was 280 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: in the right space. But it was also very stressful 281 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: because I sort of instantly realized that these wars Anchor 282 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: and I were having sort of like lowering prices. Now 283 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: they would have the backing of Spotify so they could 284 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: make their service free, which is exactly what happened. And 285 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: so I do remember I saw that tweet and by 286 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: like three, like eight am Pacific time, I'd emailed my board, 287 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: I'd texted my parents because they're on Boston, So's East Coast. 288 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: I was like, everyone, this is happening, Like we have 289 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: to really think about this. Anyways, jumping ahead, we pivoted 290 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: to the B to B space, which means that we 291 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: primarily sell now into businesses, and what a joy that 292 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: has been. I really think most people, if you're like 293 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: me and you're starting a business, you instantly think what's 294 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: a service I can use, and then you build for yourself. 295 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: But I would encourage anyone listening you're thinking about starting 296 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: a product, think about that B to B space, think 297 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: about selling it to businesses. A couple of benefits here. 298 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: One right up the back price point. You can charge 299 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: a lot more for businesses, and you also have a 300 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: lot of upsell opportunities in terms of the size and 301 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: scale of the organizations that you're selling into how you're 302 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: pricing your services. Another really big one, especially if you're 303 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: a small company and you're doing some of the customer 304 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: service yourself, as I do, is that if you're selling 305 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: primarily into businesses, you're mostly getting customer service questions during 306 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: the business day. Very rarely are people working on their 307 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: podcast for work on like a Saturday afternoon, And we 308 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: have a twenty four hour guaranteed response time on all 309 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: of Messi's thanks for individuals and businesses, and that's a 310 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: different experience if you're getting lots of emails over the 311 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: weekend of people working on their side Hustle podcasts for staring. 312 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: So if you have an idea, if you are listening 313 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: to this podcast and you want to start a business, 314 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: but you don't have an idea, here's what I really 315 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: think you should do. One there's three questions you should 316 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: ask herself. One what businesses do I love? What products 317 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,479 Speaker 1: do I use as a consumer? Two? How could technology 318 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: make those experiences better? And three what businesses would buy them? So, 319 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: Sarah I was actually thinking I came up with that 320 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: framework this morning. I was like, hmm, I'm going to 321 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: create a planner that businesses say buy for their employees. Yes, okay, 322 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: So Sarah, I actually had an idea for you because 323 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: I was thinking about so Sarah obviously loves planners. We 324 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: all know that. And then I was thinking, okay, so 325 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: right now her planners are manual, and so what's technology 326 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: that would help that? What if they were like living 327 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: some sort of software in the computer. And then I 328 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: was thinking, what's like a narrow a narrow thing she 329 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: could sell into. Obviously she's a doctor in the doctor space. 330 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: I have honestly, I have no idea what epic is. 331 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: I've never even reasership, but I know you always talk 332 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: about Epic on your blog, So like, what if you 333 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: did some sort of like browser sension for Epic that 334 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: made it so people could do like planning for their personnel. 335 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: You know you're laughing because I don't know that's a 336 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: bad idea, but like, following that train of what do 337 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: you love? How could technology improve it? In what businesses 338 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: would buy? It can help you think of a really 339 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: nice B to B business. I think Epic may hire 340 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: you as a consultant. Now they're like, wow, we never 341 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: thought of getting into the physician wellness space, but here's 342 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: our angle. We're going to hire Molly and Sarah and 343 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: we're going to go for it, and all of a sudden, 344 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: charting will go from being a chore to a pleasurable 345 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: part of your day where you just know, oh my goodness, 346 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: this is so funny and I love it. I love it. 347 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: I love it. Molly, you are full of amazing ideas 348 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: and this is already a lot of fun. Okay, so 349 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: we're going to pivot. I love your business story. I 350 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: think that's so fascinating, and I think you did mention 351 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: in your explanation that I think women especially are intimidated 352 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: to go into the B to B space, but I 353 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: can see why a lot of us should. Just if 354 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: that's what you're interested in doing, just get over your 355 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: fears and try it, because I absolutely hear the benefits 356 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: and how they've worked out so well for you. You. 357 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: So now you have this blossoming career and so does 358 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: your husband. And you have said that you have a 359 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: fifty to fifty split in your household with your two boys, 360 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: young boys and boy to be. I guess that one's 361 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: more of a you, because that's hard for him to 362 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: help as much with that one so far. But tell 363 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: me about this split. Have you talked about it? What 364 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: processes do you have in order? I want to hear 365 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: the logistics here absolutely well, and I also actually have 366 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: we sort of have a solution that we've worked out 367 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: for the how I carry the baby for nine months, 368 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: But we'll get to that second. So Colin and I 369 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: do do we split childcare fifty fifty, truly fifty to fifty, 370 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: And the way that we do it is the night 371 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: before we look at the schedule like whatever's happening in 372 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: the day, and I would say our days are fairly predictable. 373 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: We both work largely nine to five. We don't do 374 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: a ton of work on the weekends. Our kids are 375 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: in some activities, but they're somewhat planned, and we do 376 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: have forty hours a week of childcare combination of nanny 377 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,479 Speaker 1: and preschool. So with that in mind, I look at 378 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: the schedule for the next day, and then I can 379 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: tell you a top of my head that I know 380 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: that during the week we have about five and a 381 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: half hours each weekday that's not covered by tildcare, and 382 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: on the weekends we have thirteen hours. So dividing that 383 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: in half, we each do like two point seventy five 384 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: hours on the week days, and then we each do 385 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: six point five hours on the weekends, and we just 386 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: come up with a schedule. Typically, how it breaks down 387 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: is I usually do the morning shift and like an 388 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: hour after work and then calling us after work till 389 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: they go to bed. That's like on a typical day, 390 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: and then on the weekends I still am sort of 391 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: the early riser, so I typically take morning straight through 392 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: till around like one p one thirty, depending on what 393 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: time big it up, and then he does that till bedtime. 394 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: Something that's really important to note is that it doesn't 395 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: mean that we're not hanging out as a family. We 396 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: often do family activities on the weekends. Kids are in sports. 397 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: We're big like NASCAR, monster truck people, so we go 398 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: to that on the weekends a lot. So we're still 399 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: doing stuff as a family, but the person who's like on, 400 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: they're like the primary. So if we're at the monster 401 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: truck rally in the morning and one of the kids 402 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: wants a snack or has to go to the bathroom, 403 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: it would be me that's jumping up and doing it, 404 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: because I would be in the morning shift. If it's 405 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: the afternoon, we're lazing about the house, the kids are hungry. 406 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: These kids always want snacks, then it would be cool 407 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: and that would jump up and do it. So it's 408 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that we're not together as a family, 409 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: but somebody is on, and somebody is sort of more 410 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: off as off as you can be, but then they 411 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: also are off. If it's the afternoon and it's Colin's time, 412 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: and I am very social, I like to hang out 413 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: with my friends a lot, and if I want to 414 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: do that, it's fine. I can either hop on a zoom, 415 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: I can sometimes I do a little messy work, like 416 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: just doing some stuff and that's totally fine. Colin usually 417 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: works out in the morning. He's more of a runner 418 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: than I am. And we love it. I really enjoyed. 419 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: You know, how we started it actually is I think 420 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: that the hardest part of parenting for us was when 421 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: we had one child under a year old, not a 422 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: ton of activities. You could really take them too, like 423 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: you can take a six month old to the zoo, 424 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: but like, who's enjoying that they're I don't not. In 425 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: our family, nobody was enjoying it. So then you have 426 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: like two adults and one kid and not a lot 427 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: to do. So we started splitting up the weekend, somebody 428 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: being more on and off. And then as our family grew, 429 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: as the kids frankly became more interesting and like had 430 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: things to do, we just kept with the schedule. And oh, 431 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: I want I think, I want to tell you was 432 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: the nine month thing. So something that we do actually 433 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: is after I'm done like breastfeeding, then Colin does do 434 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: the next nine months of wake ups in the night time, 435 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: and that's like sort of you know, is it a 436 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: perfect science? Like no occasion I'll get up in the 437 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: middle of the night, but if the baby can take 438 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: a bottle. Then Colin does the night wake ups for 439 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: about nine months after and then hopefully by that point 440 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: the kids are so think you're the night Oh that's 441 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: so funny. For us, it was more like the minute 442 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: that I wasn't feeding them at night, they were like, okay, fine, 443 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: there's nothing to do, I'll just sleep, So that would 444 00:21:55,480 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: not interesting. I want to hear a tiny bit. Well, 445 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: we have to take a quick break, and as soon 446 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: as we're back, I want to ask you a tiny 447 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: bit more about your weekday split. Maybe we can do 448 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: like a day in the life. All Right, we are 449 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: back and we are hearing logistics from Molly, especially how 450 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: she splits things with her husband very thoughtfully. And I 451 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: want to hear you mentioned kind of that you are 452 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: more of the morning parent and you kind of really 453 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: split those childcare free hours very equally. So I want 454 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: to hear a day in the life at your house. 455 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: I wake up the angel saying, now, I'm just kidding. 456 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: I try to get up around six. My kids usually 457 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: they have one of those traffic lights in their rooms 458 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: that goes from like green to or red to green 459 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: when they can get up, so I know my four 460 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: year old does get up a little bit before then 461 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: I can hear him in the room, but my two 462 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: year olds still a sleep. They share a room, and 463 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: my four year old when he gets up, he has 464 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: to get dressed and make his bed, and then it's 465 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: when it's traffic lights, which is colors. He usually calls 466 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: for me. By that point, I'm usually dressed myself. I 467 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: just I find it very frustrating to try to like 468 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: do my hair, do I make up, and get dressed 469 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: with kids running around, so I try to avoid that 470 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: as much as possible. So then he and I we 471 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: trumps downstairs. Sometimes the two year old is up, then 472 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: sometimes they're not. Calm's usually still asleep with the dog. 473 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: Calm the dog are sleepers, come downstairs, have a little breakfast. 474 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: In terms of breakfast, I don't usually eat breakfast, but 475 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: the kids are right now. They're on like a dinosaur 476 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: eggs oatmeal kick, which honestly that stuff isn't bad. If 477 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: you're like looking for a little snackeroo cereal, you know, 478 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: we have some fruit YadA, YadA, YadA. The kid usually 479 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: watched some TV. They're really into number blocks right now, 480 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: which is if you watch it as an adult, you'd 481 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: be like, why do my kids like it. But my 482 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: kids really like it, so they watch number Blocks. I'd 483 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: probably last like a half hour ish, and then we 484 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: trumps back upstairs. It's like seven fifteen, seven thirty, we 485 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: wake up Colin, who's actually Colin is sometimes already awake 486 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: that the kids really like to waken up, so sometimes 487 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: he gets back in bed and pretends to be asleep 488 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: and then be kind of all that's like the most 489 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: stressful part of the day is like seven thirty to 490 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: like seven forty five. It's still my time. But like 491 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: the kids are running around, they're already dressed usually at 492 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: that point, like they've gotten The four year old was 493 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: alread dressed when would downstairs, and the two year old 494 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: is like in various stages of it, and like nobody 495 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: has like a defined activity, but around eight o'clock defined 496 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: activities start. People need to get shoes on out the door, 497 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: and the time switches over to Colin. Colin is usually 498 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: the one that brings them to school in the morning, 499 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: and okay, so then it's my time. So now it's 500 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: like eight fifteen, I am definitely walking out the door, 501 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: going to the coffee shop. Let my little routine in 502 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: the morning I always run into people I know, people 503 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: to chat with. It was really important to me to 504 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: live in a community where I think I had like 505 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: a number even I think I wanted to know if 506 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: fifteen percent of people in the coffee shop every day 507 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: when I moved here, Like, I just really wanted that. 508 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: Com made me feel and I do feel like I 509 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: run into people to chat with, which you really like. 510 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: So go to the coffee shop, get my coffee, come 511 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: back home by me, and it'd a bit. It's maybe 512 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: around nine. If I like, like every neighborhood right now, 513 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: everybody's talking about real estate gossip. So if I got 514 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: some like very hot real estate gossip, then I was 515 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: chatting with someone. I'm like texting Polin. Oh my gods, 516 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: you'll never believe who's thinking of listing? YadA yad YadA. Okay, 517 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: Then from nine to five, it's just a normal day. 518 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: I am usually on slacks with internal teams. I'm usually 519 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: on demos with customers. I do a lot of customer 520 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: onboarding myself. We do some creator training for some of 521 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: our bigger accounts. MESSI is no longer Messy's venture back, 522 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: which means we took outside capital to build our initial products. 523 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: So occasionally I interface with investors, although we're not currently raising. 524 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: And that's just like my nine to five. The kids 525 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: are usually in and out because we have a nanny 526 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: the two year olds. Not neither of the kids are 527 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: in full time school, but all of our schools are 528 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: just the morning, so I pop out chat with them. Honestly, 529 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: on occasion. They do a lot of crafts. I love crafts. 530 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: They were doing the craft that I like really like 531 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,239 Speaker 1: I happen just rely, like five or ten minutes, just 532 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: to remind them who the craft master is in the house, 533 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: not me, no anyways. Okay, So then five o'clock the 534 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: day and we say goodbye to our nanny. Something that's 535 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: important to know is our nanny's actually a family member, 536 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: but we treat her like we would someone that was 537 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: not a family member, Like we keep very defined hours, 538 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: she's pain on the books, all of the things that 539 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: someone that was not a family member would get, and 540 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: we try to be really respectful of her time. And 541 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: the truth is she's a really good friend of mine, 542 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: Like you know, even though we weren't sister in law, 543 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: she would be a good friend of mine. But I 544 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: still try to really keep that boundary during the day, 545 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: So five o'clock we say goodbye to her, and then 546 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: kids and I hang out. I usually start making dinner. No, 547 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: I really like pasta, and my kids really love pasta, 548 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: so they do pasta a lot of nights, little veggies 549 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: the whole Shenan's, and at six o'clock call and takes 550 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: it over. I usually hang out for a little bit. 551 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: That's when I read the paper. We'll talk about that later. 552 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: That's when I read my paper and like sit in 553 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: the couch and kids are running around eating. And then 554 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: usually seven o'clock I start having more zooms and they're 555 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: usually more social. So I meet with like a creative 556 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: entrepreneurship club twice a week part of a life group 557 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 1: at church. Usually just like like to pull get togethers 558 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: with friends. So I usually do like some social stuff 559 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: online from like seven to nine. For nine o'clock, kids 560 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: are down on and I hang out chill watch some 561 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,719 Speaker 1: house Hunters. It's a really fun game. One person chooses 562 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: what house hunters to go to. Another person has to 563 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: see if they can figure out what's to be there 564 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: in before they say it. It's pretty crazy actually, and 565 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: then go to bed. Yeah, that would be a day. 566 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: I love it, And so does your husband like kind 567 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: of take over the bedtime duty since that's like technically 568 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: his hours. Yeah, don't show me a bedtime book. I'm 569 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: not interested. And I'm just kidding. I do by him, 570 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,479 Speaker 1: like I probably do buy him twice a week, but 571 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: most of the time it's him. Awesome. Oh well, that 572 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: sounds lovely. It sounds like you do have a lot 573 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: of fun together and with your kids. And what a 574 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: cool but unusual setup with an employed family member. I 575 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: have like some fantasies of maybe one day, well they're 576 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: going to hear it on this podcast. I don't think 577 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: they listen, but like, you know, hiring one of my 578 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: nieces or nephews to be like kind of like a 579 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: vacation O pair like everybody wins. They go on a 580 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: free trip, they hang out with their cousins, I pay them, Like, 581 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: I think it could be kind of fun. So yeah, 582 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: I think that's really cool that you do that. Okay, 583 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: So I wanted you to talk a little bit about 584 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 1: not specifically your company, but the tech Stars program and 585 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: kind of like the chance you took when your kids 586 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: were young that was pretty outside of the box. Just 587 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, so listeners can kind of hear what's 588 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: possible and how it worked out for you. Sure. So, 589 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: tech Stars is an accelerator program, which means that they 590 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: take a very small number of startups each year. They 591 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: run them through a four month long program that's a 592 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: mix of mentorship, fundraising, everything to get your company into 593 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: a really great space, and they also invest into your company. 594 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: And so then the idea is that they take startups 595 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: that they think are going to be on a great 596 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: trajectory and help them grow even more. Tech Stars is 597 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: very competitive to get into, and I had applied in 598 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen when Messi was still just an idea. I 599 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: applied in twenty eighteen when Messi was just coming out 600 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: of beta, and then I didn't even get an interview 601 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: either time. However, they it's part of the application you 602 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: have to submit a video. And the first time I 603 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: submitted video, you can like get like hosted on my 604 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: private YouTube. I saw that it was only watched like 605 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: three times. But then the second time the application video 606 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: was viewed like fifty times. So I was like, oh, 607 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: at least, like I think getting better because they're like 608 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: passing it around. So I was just like excited that 609 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: this application video was viewed fifty times and I just 610 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: got the form rejection letter. Okay, so fast forward. Now 611 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: it's twenty nineteen. I have a one year old, and 612 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: I am pregnant with my second son, and we are 613 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: living in Los Angeles, California, so we had just moved 614 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: cross country. My first son was born in New York. 615 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm about to get birth to my second son in 616 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. My husband works for a different, like hospitality 617 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,959 Speaker 1: ish company out there, and I get an email from 618 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: Texars in like January, from the managing director asking me 619 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: to apply again. And you know, one of one of 620 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: my traits is I'm definitely a Gretchen Reuben rebel, and 621 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: I don't like it when people tell me. I don't 622 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: like what people tell me what to do. You wanted 623 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: this program until they wanted you a hundred percent. And 624 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: also the logistics of my life just made absolutely no sense. 625 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: I was like super pregnant, I had this one year old. 626 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: You know, another reality of my life at that time 627 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: is that MESSI was not making very much money. Remember 628 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: we had all those users, but no real money. We're 629 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: still by to see, so I didn't have regular childcare 630 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: at all. And we also lived in LA where we 631 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: do no one, so we didn't even have family. So 632 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 1: I was doing the bulk of the childcare and I 633 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: was like working on MESSI really early in the morning, 634 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: which actually worked at well because on the East time 635 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: it was like nine to twelve, so it was like 636 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: early in the morning six to nine my time, so 637 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: I could do work before Calm left for work. But like, 638 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how other people feel being pregnant, 639 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: but I just like it wasn't in the right head space. 640 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: So I get this email, totally blow it off, blow 641 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: it off, like a million times. It keeps emailing. I'm like, 642 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: he's like, I really think you should apply this year. 643 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm like please, no. Anyways, long story short, my baby 644 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: comes early, maybe became with sposed to come like the 645 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: end of April. That came to on April fol side, 646 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: and so the application deadline for Textars was April seventh. 647 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: So give birth to the baby, thank God, everything is great, 648 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: and then get out of the hospital and I just 649 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: keep thinking about his Textar's application, and I'm like, I 650 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: don't know, like why do I keep thinking about it? 651 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: You know? But then I always think of that quote 652 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: that's like, you should dance with the one that wants you, 653 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: And I was like the fact that textar is email 654 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: me is kind of interesting. So anyways, decide one night, 655 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: like April the textors application to do April seven. Decide 656 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: on April six, I'm gonna do this application. So I 657 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: do the whole thing, and then I realized, oh my gosh, 658 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: I should do another video. Remember my videos that were 659 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: only being viewed a couple a couple of times. However, 660 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: I just had this epidural. My face is like so puffy. 661 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't look my best. I didn't look 662 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: my worst. Actually just yeah, let's like we all know 663 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: that most people listening to this podcast are like not 664 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: my finest hundred person exactly. But so I like go 665 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: in the corner of our bedroom and I'm talking really 666 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: low in the video because Be's sleeping, and I just 667 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: do this quick video and I send it off. Anyways, 668 00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: end up getting email like inviting me to interview in Philadelphia. 669 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,239 Speaker 1: And I don't know what other people's marriages are like. 670 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: But I hadn't really told Colin all of the details 671 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: about this tech Stars thing. You know, I always think, 672 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: why worry people until things are becoming more serious. You know, 673 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, isn't it fun? Textar seems like 674 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: they want me. Oh yeah, I applied, We'll see what 675 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: happens blah blah blah. But then it suddenly becomes really 676 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: real that I have to if I want to continue 677 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: the process, I have to fly to Philadelphia and interview. 678 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: And at this point I the interview process, the interview date, 679 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: I would have a five week old and then I 680 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: still have a one year old that remember we have 681 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: no regular childcare, so like that's a whole other brinkle, 682 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: Like who would watch the one year old while I'm gone? 683 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: I didn't think I was up. I knew the five 684 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: years old would have to come with me because it 685 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: was so breastfeeding. If I knew the one year old couldn't, 686 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: it would just be too crazy. So do a little thinking, 687 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: And I called my parents and I sort of like 688 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: told them the whole story, and they're like, tech what 689 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: the stars like? Blah blah blah, And I'm and my 690 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: dad like, this is just a parva story that I 691 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: think is really important. Is like, I'm very lucky that 692 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: I have a community that really believes in my ideas 693 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: and my dad, who's not I would say a super 694 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: baby person volunteers to fly from Boston to Philly, meet 695 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 1: me at the interview, and then watch the baby during 696 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: the interview. And it was just such a kind offer. 697 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: And so once my dad offered that, I was like, 698 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 1: I think I should do this, Like I think people really, 699 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: I think people are rallying around me, and so fly 700 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: to tex Stars. The baby just We're on this cross 701 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: country flight. The baby is crying the whole time. We're 702 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: in the middle seat. I'm like trying to breastfeed the 703 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: night before my dad's like flight. I forget the details, 704 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 1: but whatever it was. My dad didn't get in until 705 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: really late. I was there. Baby was crying the whole night. 706 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 1: I was like, still working because to interview at textars, 707 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: you do a panel interview with about forty people and 708 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: you have to do this whole like pitch and you 709 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: see the other startups player there. Mine was at the 710 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: Comcast Anology Center, which is like this big, fancy building. 711 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: Keep in mind, I've been working for myself for the 712 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: past two years, literally out of bed, a baby's bedroom. 713 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: And so I go to dry bar, like god bless driver. 714 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 1: I get my first blowout since I've had the baby. 715 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: I was like, I have a new person, give the 716 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: baby to my dad, go into the interview. I have 717 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 1: this picture that I just totally treasure of my dad 718 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: pushing the baby around the corner of the Textars center 719 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: while I go inside. To keep in mind, the baby 720 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: wasn't taking a bottle, so my dad's really his only 721 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: option to watch him was to like push him in 722 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: a stroller, like for however long it took. So go in, 723 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: have the interview, end up getting into Textars, and then 724 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: I realized I have to tell like they don't tell 725 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: you right way they get into Textars. But like I 726 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: felt like the interview went well. My dad and I 727 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: had a chili chili this is called Philly cheese steak, 728 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: and then I flew back. But the Textars program is 729 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: in Philly and I'm in California, and so I get 730 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: into Textars and that's when I realized I have to 731 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: have a really serious conversation with Colin about how we're 732 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: going to make this work. I am, obviously so not 733 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 1: an expert on marriage, but in my marriage, one thing 734 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: that we have always sort of thought is the person 735 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: that really feels the strongest should get their way, so, 736 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: you know, forgetting takeout, and I kind of listen one 737 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 1: for pizza, but Colin really wants taco Tuesday. He wanted more. 738 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: He should get it that night. And this is one 739 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: of the situations where Colin wasn't thrilled about the idea 740 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: of both of the kids and me moving to Philly 741 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 1: for four months. He had to stay in Los Angeles 742 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: because that's where his job was. This is pre COVID, 743 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: you did not get permission to work remotely. He would 744 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: have to fly like maybe every we thought, maybe like 745 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 1: every third weekend to visit us and be away from 746 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: his kids and me for four months for an idea. MESSI, 747 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: the company of MESSI now with employees and real customers 748 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: and all, is not what we were back then. We 749 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 1: were a ton of users not paying in a space 750 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: where Spotify had just bought our biggest competitor. Like it 751 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: was really it was. It was like not. It wasn't 752 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: like a tenuous and uncertain so tiny centered And we 753 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: didn't have childcare in Philly, and we had never had 754 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: regular childcare, so I didn't even really know about was 755 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: I supposed to be looking for daycare? Was I supposed 756 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 1: to be looking for nannies, but I just feel call on, like, hey, 757 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,919 Speaker 1: I'm going to do this, and I just did it 758 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: and he was helpful. I think if you're not yet 759 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 1: with a partner, I do think it's helpful to marry 760 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: someone that's just easy going. I just think it makes 761 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 1: your life easier. So anyways, the kids and I fly 762 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: to Philly. I found a nanny agency. They assigned us 763 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 1: a nanny. I met her on Sunday and then Monday 764 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: she started watching my kids full time. We rented an 765 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 1: apartment across the street from the Comcast Technology Center, so 766 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 1: I would did you do firm lunch every day and 767 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: feed the baby and then go back and text hers 768 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: like changed the trajectory of my business. Comcasts ended up 769 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: investing in the business. They became a customer. We ended 770 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: up pivoting to B to B. I felt like a 771 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: real entrepreneur's when I felt like I wasn't just like 772 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: toiling by myself, Like I had this community around myself 773 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: and it was one of the best things I ever 774 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: did for myself and in our family. Everybody gets to 775 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: follow their dreams and sometimes that is even the mom 776 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: So that was our journey. What a cool story at 777 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,720 Speaker 1: a crazy time, and obviously it ended up like paying 778 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 1: off amazingly. So your gut instinct must have really kind 779 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: of told you to move on that and you were 780 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 1: totally right. So I love that you shared that. And 781 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: speaking of kind of dreams and instincts, my last question 782 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: before we get to the level of the week is 783 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: goal setting. You mentioned a couple of goals and how 784 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: you I'm curious, like, do you do it quarterly or 785 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: do you follow the best of both worlds or best 786 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: laid plans kind of methods or are you more just 787 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: a yearly or how did you create these big dreams 788 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: and goals? Okay, so this is a good question. I 789 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: cannot believe I just forgot to tell the craziest part 790 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: of this textoor story. Okay, so we get to text. 791 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: The second week of the program, I'm sitting in a 792 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: meeting like with my leg tucked under my butt. My 793 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: leg falls asleep and I tried to walk on it 794 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: and I broke my leg. So I was on crutches 795 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: for this program with these kids. I'll never forget calling 796 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: calling from the er. I had a conference call with 797 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: my mom and Colin and I'm like, Okay, here's the deal. 798 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: They just did an X ray. It's like not looking good. 799 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: That was honestly all joking aside. The lowest I've ever 800 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: felt as an adult was I got home from the 801 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: er like one d am. I had to pay the 802 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: babysitter a ton of overtime to stay that lake because 803 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: I broken at the end of the day, which like 804 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: is expensively on the babysitting is expensive. I was watching 805 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: my pennies, so I had to pay all this overtime, 806 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 1: and my leg was broken. I was on these crutches. 807 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: I had this we were living in an apartment building. 808 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: I had this huge fear already that was gonna be 809 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: a fire. I was gonna be able to get the 810 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: kids out, And now I'm like, I'm on crutches and 811 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: I have these kids, and it was a very stressful time, 812 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: and I just wanted to share the advice. Something that 813 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: really helped me is that particular night when I was 814 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: so stressed, I couldn't take any serious I didn't want 815 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,280 Speaker 1: to take any serious drugs because I was the only caregiver. 816 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: And I also didn't have tilan all on my apartment 817 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 1: because we just got there and so I was walking 818 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: in and I had this horrible worry that there was 819 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: going to be a fire. I had this broken leg, 820 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: and how did I get the kids out? So I 821 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: stopped and talked to the guy, the doorman at the 822 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: front desk, and I was just like, hey, I just 823 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: moved in obviously. I just they think my leg is broken, 824 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: said to go to orthopedic like the next day. So 825 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, they think I didn't have health insurance in Philly. 826 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: It was a whole namer. So I'm like, here is 827 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: the situation. I'm like, just fi, we live on the 828 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: eighth floor. I didn't ask him, hey, if there's a fire, 829 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 1: like come and grab us, but just like telling somebody 830 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: just the situation. And I think that that works in 831 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,720 Speaker 1: almost every situation. If there's always people who are paid 832 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: professionals in almost any situation that will help you. If 833 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: you were flying across the country with a baby, there 834 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 1: are flight attendants that can help you if things start 835 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: going really south with the baby, if you are alone, 836 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: Like sometimes I even you know, I'm about to have 837 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: three kids really close in age, and you know, the 838 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: first time you do anything with when I did it 839 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 1: with two kids and now I'll do it with three kids. 840 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: It will be nerve wracking to go out alone with 841 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,720 Speaker 1: me and just the three of them, but I'll think about, like, Okay, 842 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: what are other people around the situation that like whether 843 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 1: they I always thought like, oh if I pass out 844 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: when I'm alone with the kids, Oh if I feel 845 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: light headed, I'll just walk into a Starbucks and then 846 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 1: there are paid people there that will have to deal 847 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 1: with me. So just like always look for paid people 848 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: that like they can kind of help you if you're stressed. 849 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: So anyways, sorry, that was the text I story. Let 850 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,879 Speaker 1: me tell you about my goals. Okay, the two things 851 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: are true at once. One I love goals and I 852 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: am a big goal setter, and two I have not 853 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 1: done so hot on my twenty twenty two goals. Just 854 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: laying it up there. My goals for this year, my 855 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 1: three big ones that were personal not mess you related, 856 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: would be to meditate every day, to document my experience 857 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 1: of mother better, and to do one hundred thought leadership pieces. 858 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: So I'm actually doing okay in the thought leadership. I'm 859 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: like on target for that. Meditation every day is happening 860 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: a few times a week, and the motherhood documenting has 861 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: a bit falling off, but that's okay, that's part of 862 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: the process. That's okay. You could just play them this 863 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: episode that will count. And the other thing I want 864 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: to say about sort of goal setting is I also 865 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: think it's okay you can always just reset the goals, 866 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: like you know, sometimes it's fun to look back. And 867 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: also there were stuff that I did in twenty twenty 868 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: one that wasn't on the goals list, but I was like, 869 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: oh wow, I started running, like I'd ran a mile. 870 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: I never thought I would run a mile in my 871 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: whole life, Like that wasn't on the list. But some 872 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,399 Speaker 1: other things maybe just tinge, where did that goals list 873 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: go I love making goals lists, but I fully agree 874 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,720 Speaker 1: you can always hit that reset button. You can always 875 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 1: start over, you can always cross goals off the list 876 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: because hey, maybe you learn something about yourself and that 877 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,959 Speaker 1: just as productive sometimes that like I thought I wanted 878 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: to do this, Actually I don't. Moving on, so I 879 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 1: fully applaud that. And yeah, documenting, I mean, yeah, maybe 880 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 1: it's overrated. Like there's always a photo role in your phone, right, 881 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 1: there's always the iPhone share album. I had like a 882 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 1: little Google spreadsheet where I was like writing. My goal 883 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: was to everyday start the experience with like I felt 884 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: like global blessing about motherhood. And for like three days 885 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: in a row, the entry was I felt cranky till 886 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: I eat chocolate and I'm like, who is this for? Like, 887 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: I can't even tell this to my kids? So funny. 888 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: All right, Well it is time for Love of the 889 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: Week and we know okay, So full disclosure. Molly's is 890 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: our Patreon group, and she shared some of her loves 891 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: of the week because she wanted to see which might 892 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,240 Speaker 1: be the best one for this episode, and I deemed 893 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,439 Speaker 1: her the world's most prepared guests we've ever had. So 894 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: I think you should share at least the book you mentioned, 895 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: and then whatever else you would like to mention from 896 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: that list for your loves. Great, Okay, so let's do 897 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: some book recommendations. I actually have a couple that I 898 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 1: think might be helpful. So first book recommendation is I 899 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: wanted to give a book recommendation for people that I 900 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: love being an entrepreneur. Obviously, it's something I feel very 901 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: passionate about. It has been really transformational in my life, 902 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: and so I recommend if you have an idea for 903 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: a business. Read this book. It's called Business Minded. It 904 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: came out earlier this year by someone named Carly Reordan, 905 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: and I just wanted to throw out there that sometimes 906 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 1: when women write business books, the reviews come back that like, oh, 907 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: they're making business too easy, or like it's not as 908 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: complicated as it could be. And to me, that is 909 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: a massive form of gatekeeping. And if someone tells you 910 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,760 Speaker 1: that business is too hard, two things are happening. One 911 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: they want you to feel like they're super smart, which 912 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,839 Speaker 1: is why they're saying that it's hard. Or Two they're 913 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: nervous that if you get into business, you will crush them. 914 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: Business is not hard. And I really feel passionate that 915 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: if you have an idea for a business, you can 916 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: do it. Spend a couple minutes every day working on 917 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,439 Speaker 1: your business. In like the next five weeks you've spent 918 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,439 Speaker 1: twenty hours, you have outlined it, and then just start 919 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 1: doing things. You don't have to spend a lot of money, 920 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 1: you don't have to like announce it to the whole world, 921 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: you don't have to leave that day job. I think 922 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: having control over your business is wonderful for your mental health. Okay, 923 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 1: so that's the business recommendation. Other one for people that 924 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: are interested in the B to B space. There's this 925 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 1: book called The Startup Gold Mind. It's by someone named 926 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 1: Neil and it's the subtitle is like how large Companies 927 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 1: can grow and fund your business, And it's just about 928 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 1: how businesses can work with like large established companies in 929 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,320 Speaker 1: order to become both customers and funders. The book was 930 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 1: very helpful to me. Then finally a book about middle children. 931 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 1: So I am not a middle child. I'm the oldest, 932 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 1: but I'm about to have a middle child because I'm 933 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: making my two year old and middle child. So I 934 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: was trying to find a book that would be about 935 00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: my sweet little guy, and I found this book called 936 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 1: The Sek Power of middle Children. If you are a 937 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 1: middle child, if you love a middle child, if you 938 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: have a middle child, if you're partnered with a middle child, 939 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 1: this is the book for you. Man. You will read 940 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 1: this book and you will want to be a middle child. 941 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: Middle children are like the best combination of like the 942 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: first board and how they tend to be more driven 943 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: and the last board and how they tend to be 944 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 1: more social. Middles like run this great path And it 945 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 1: sounds like it's it's an envious rule to be in 946 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: the family. So that's the secret power of middle children. 947 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 1: Love it. Those are excellent recommendations. I don't have any 948 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 1: recommendations to compete with that, but since you had so 949 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 1: many of them, maybe I don't have to. Okay, I 950 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: will mention one that was brought up, and I don't 951 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 1: know if I've used this before, but you know what, 952 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 1: who cares. So when we were having this discussion yesterday, 953 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: if everybody's loves of the week, people came up with 954 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: subscription services that they use and love, and I will. 955 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: I have three, so I'm going to give that theme. 956 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: One is I get masks on subscription. Like I'm hoping 957 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,839 Speaker 1: I don't have to do that forever. I would really 958 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,360 Speaker 1: like to stop getting them, but right now it's very easy, 959 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: and like we always have disposable masks laying around, which 960 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 1: is kind of I've given up on the cloth to 961 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: some extent because I don't know, it's just easier. So 962 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: that's one. Mine is from Armbrust American, which is like 963 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 1: an American made mask company, and they fit my face, 964 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 1: So that's one. Number two is an old podcast sponsor 965 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 1: that hasn't been a sponsor for like three years, so 966 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 1: this is non sponsor, but I still get the Lola 967 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 1: tampon subscription and never buying tampons is the best, and 968 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,359 Speaker 1: they're really good tampons, So there you go. And then 969 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 1: the third one is I get the allurea Beauty box 970 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 1: and I got that recommendation from a Bogel and it 971 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 1: just comes as sample sized products and a couple of 972 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: full size products every month, and you get to try 973 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 1: a lot of things. And my oldest kid is already 974 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 1: interested in them, and so sometimes I will give casts 975 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 1: off to her and it makes her day. So it's 976 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: really fun. That is awesome, you know what. I used 977 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,320 Speaker 1: to be a little less subscriber too before I got pregnant. 978 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: I obviously pass it, but it's really nice to have 979 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 1: them come. I feel like they're very high quality. Yeah, 980 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,479 Speaker 1: that's a good Lola recommendation and it's like never something 981 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 1: you want to go out and have to buy last minute, 982 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:15,320 Speaker 1: like the Yes, maybe we can sponsor them again anyway. 983 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being on the show, Mollie. 984 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: You were wonderful. Tell everybody where they can find you. 985 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me on. You can 986 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:28,319 Speaker 1: always find me at MS molly Back Miss Molly Back 987 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 1: on any social platform if you like data lives, I 988 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 1: actually do a lot of data lives on my Instagram platform. 989 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 1: And if you're interested in networking, I also wrote a 990 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 1: book called reach Out that you can find wherever books 991 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: are sold. And if you're interested in starting an internal 992 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: podcast at your company, you can go to Messy Messy 993 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,840 Speaker 1: dot fm. It's called messi because the future of audio 994 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 1: is authentic and transparent, and internal comms don't have to 995 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: be born they can be really about the leaders. Oh 996 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 1: and of course you can always email me Mollie at 997 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: messim My whole book is about emailing strangers, so has Tea. 998 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,360 Speaker 1: I love it. Thank you so much, Mollie. Well, that 999 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 1: was amazing. Mollie has tons of energy and enthusiasm for 1000 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 1: life and work, and we are so glad she was 1001 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 1: willing to talk with us about that. Our question today 1002 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 1: comes from somebody who also has many small children. So 1003 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,360 Speaker 1: this is from someone who is looking to get school 1004 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 1: aged and baby children ready and out the door in 1005 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: the morning without having to get up insanely early. So 1006 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,920 Speaker 1: the listener says that her daughters attend a private school 1007 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,359 Speaker 1: and her baby boy will also be enrolled in their 1008 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,920 Speaker 1: childcare program. So the good news is it will be 1009 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: one stop drop off for her husband, who is doing 1010 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 1: the morning run, and she does the afternoon pickup. She said, 1011 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 1: the last time we had an infant, the oldest was 1012 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: a toddler, so it didn't matter so much what time 1013 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: we dropped them off. But she can't have her girls, 1014 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,800 Speaker 1: now that they are in school, be tardy. The girls 1015 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: can dress themselves being school aged, but still need a 1016 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 1: lot of prompting to put shoes on, brush teeth, get backpacks, 1017 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 1: put on coats. This listener is already doing things like 1018 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 1: packing lunches the night before and everything else she can 1019 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 1: possibly do to make mornings go more smoothly, but it 1020 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: is still a flurry of gentle and then not so 1021 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,360 Speaker 1: gentle nudging to get them out the door. Her husband's 1022 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 1: an engineer, she's an attorney. We're both gonna be busy 1023 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: when she returns to work. She's on maternity leave and 1024 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: getting ready for the childcare runs coming up soon. So 1025 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:30,359 Speaker 1: what do we recommend? Sarah? Okay, So, just to set 1026 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 1: the scene of how long it takes for us, we 1027 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 1: wake the kids up at around six forty five to 1028 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 1: six fifty although today it was seven because that was 1029 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 1: being very lazy and we leave at seven thirty five 1030 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: and today went fine, So I guess thirty five minutes 1031 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,879 Speaker 1: is enough from wake up to out the door. One 1032 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: thing that helps us is the older kids are expected 1033 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 1: to pretty much do themselves, and the only thing that 1034 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 1: has helped to keep them on track, other than a 1035 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 1: lot of nagging, has been music as prompts. And in fact, 1036 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 1: this morning I was like, Karen, start putting it. He's like, no, Mom, 1037 00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 1: the ten minute song didn't come on yet, and then 1038 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 1: like it came on two seconds later and he went 1039 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 1: to work. He knew, like that's the countdown and you 1040 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,759 Speaker 1: have to be ready. We've also had like discussions where 1041 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 1: it's like if you're not ready and the song stops, 1042 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: which that's the queue to leave, like you will lose 1043 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 1: video game time. So there's some steaks like tied to things, 1044 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 1: and they take it fairly seriously. So yeah, having the 1045 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,360 Speaker 1: big kids be as self sufficient as possible, and we 1046 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 1: do have the clothes kind of set up. We have 1047 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 1: them downstairs. Currently, our new house is going to be 1048 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,239 Speaker 1: all one floor, so I don't know, we might change 1049 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 1: things up, but for now, the cloths are downstairs to 1050 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 1: make things really easy to change, and our nanny is 1051 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 1: very nice and she sets out there like uniform outfit 1052 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: the day before, so there's just no thought that goes 1053 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 1: into them putting on their clothes. And one other thing 1054 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 1: I will note is that maybe there needs to be 1055 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 1: slightly earlier bedtime that would facilitate an earlier wake up 1056 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,840 Speaker 1: for the baby, because it sounds like the baby is 1057 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 1: the one that you are worried about. But when my 1058 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,799 Speaker 1: kids were little, they tended to go to bed really early, 1059 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,760 Speaker 1: so they were up pretty early, and then you don't 1060 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 1: have as much of a rush with them because maybe 1061 00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 1: you have a whole hour to get them ready or 1062 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 1: whatever it is. So think about out maybe the baby 1063 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 1: in particular might need an earlier bedtime so that getting 1064 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: them up at six or six thirty or whatever the 1065 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 1: time it needs to be is in a struggle, but 1066 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 1: more of a natural phenomenon for them. Yeah, said, I 1067 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 1: had some questions about the scenario because obviously, anytime you 1068 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 1: start new routines and she's going back to work after 1069 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,480 Speaker 1: maternity to leave, it's it's time to think about who's 1070 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,880 Speaker 1: doing what, and you know why you're doing what. You're doing. 1071 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,320 Speaker 1: So just a couple questions to get clarity on. So, first, 1072 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 1: if she is doing the afternoon pickup, what is involved 1073 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: in that? Is she then like done with work at 1074 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 1: that point and she's doing the after dinner I mean 1075 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 1: the after school shift with the kids and starting dinner 1076 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 1: and all that while her husband's still at work. Because 1077 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,319 Speaker 1: if she is the afternoon parent, then it seems like 1078 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 1: he should be the morning parent, meaning that this is 1079 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 1: mostly his problem, not hers, right if that is their split, 1080 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 1: And so I'm not saying with an infant that he 1081 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,480 Speaker 1: could get everyone ready, especially if she is nursing like 1082 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,319 Speaker 1: she is going to be on the infant, but it 1083 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,839 Speaker 1: could be that she is only doing the infant and 1084 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 1: like she hands the baby fed and in his little 1085 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 1: cute onesie to her husband, who then is you know, 1086 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,880 Speaker 1: has gotten the girls ready and gotten them out the door. 1087 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 1: So I don't know that she needs to be the 1088 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 1: one doing all this, you know, not saying it's going 1089 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,399 Speaker 1: to be easy for him either, But he didn't write 1090 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,400 Speaker 1: into us, so I don't know what his deal is. 1091 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,320 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he has other ideas for how to make 1092 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 1: it happen, but you know, splitting it could be good. 1093 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 1: In any case, you know that she takes the baby, 1094 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 1: that just makes obvious sense. He takes the girls. I 1095 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 1: would also say it's going to be a pain, Like 1096 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:45,320 Speaker 1: there's no real way around this, And so I think 1097 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,960 Speaker 1: having some idea, some fantasy that there is a version 1098 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 1: of getting three children out the door that is all 1099 00:53:53,760 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 1: butterflies and fairies and wonderfulness is just not realistic. And 1100 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 1: so when you but the thing about acknowledging that is 1101 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,720 Speaker 1: that then you don't spend so much of your energy 1102 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 1: pursuing whatever hacks you think are going to make it 1103 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,680 Speaker 1: easier for you. Like you just acknowledge that it's not 1104 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 1: going to be a fun necessarily part of the day, 1105 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 1: and you just deal with that, right, Like you say, Okay, 1106 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, yes, we have to get out the door. 1107 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 1: We're not going to have some magical system where it's 1108 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 1: all great, but we do have to get out the door. 1109 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 1: And so let's just all deal with it. Because the 1110 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 1: problem when people decide that there must be some magical, 1111 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 1: wonderful approach that they just need to work to find 1112 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,279 Speaker 1: is they start making decisions that then gets you know, 1113 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 1: they lose their entire night to getting ready for the 1114 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,400 Speaker 1: next day. So I'm not even just talking. Just like 1115 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 1: the lunches. I mean, there's the lunches. They pack everyone's 1116 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,400 Speaker 1: bags for everything, it's all done. It's like, you know, 1117 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,279 Speaker 1: you spend an hour getting ready at night, but then 1118 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 1: you still have to get ready in the morning too, 1119 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 1: and you're still yelling and you're like unhappy about it 1120 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 1: because you know, you put out the unicorn pants and 1121 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,400 Speaker 1: now she doesn't want to wear the unicorn pants answer 1122 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, whatever else happened, and then you know you 1123 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 1: still have a scene in the morning, and you didn't 1124 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 1: have your hour to relax at night because you were 1125 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 1: putting out the unicorn pants, and now you are really unhappy. 1126 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 1: So if you accept that it is going to be 1127 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 1: slightly chaotic and unpleasant, maybe not unpleasant, but just not 1128 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,360 Speaker 1: smooth and well oiled machine every day, then that allows 1129 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 1: you to enjoy some relaxed time at night, not thinking 1130 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 1: you should be doing everything on earth to prepare for 1131 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,359 Speaker 1: the blizzard that is coming the next morning. And then 1132 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 1: the last thing I would suggest is possibly, now that 1133 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 1: you have three children, you need to think about your 1134 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 1: childcare scenario. And one of the reasons we started employing 1135 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,799 Speaker 1: a nanny once we had multiple children is because it 1136 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 1: is a lot of work to get everyone out the door, 1137 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 1: and having another person whose job it is to help 1138 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:58,240 Speaker 1: make that happen can make your mornings feel far more smoother. 1139 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 1: As you were preparing to go to wark. So you know, yes, 1140 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 1: your daughters are in school, but maybe it would be 1141 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,840 Speaker 1: beneficial for you to have, you know, care for the 1142 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 1: baby so that's always there, you know, so you have 1143 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 1: a nanny come in the morning, get the girls ready, 1144 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 1: you know, take care of the baby during the day, 1145 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 1: pick the girls up at school. Do you know the 1146 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 1: hour or two after school with the three of them, 1147 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,240 Speaker 1: you can come in you know as somebody who started 1148 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 1: dinner already and you know put the time in at work. 1149 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 1: You need to and feel relaxed about it and have 1150 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 1: that support at home instead of having you know, you 1151 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 1: and your husband both have this crazed getting yourself and 1152 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 1: the kids ready and cutting your work day short in 1153 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 1: order to do the pick up. Maybe it would be 1154 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 1: time to think about that fully fully agree with that 1155 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,239 Speaker 1: if you're able to do it, I mean, it's life 1156 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 1: changing and probably worth it if you're able to worth it. 1157 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,319 Speaker 1: If you're able to, yeah, well this has been best 1158 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 1: of both Worlds Sarah has been interviewing Molly Beck about 1159 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,279 Speaker 1: tech entrepreneurship. We will be back next week with more 1160 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 1: on making work and life fit together. Thanks for listening. 1161 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,920 Speaker 1: You can find me Sarah at the shoebox dot com 1162 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,799 Speaker 1: or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram, and you can 1163 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 1: find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. This has 1164 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 1: been the best of both Worlds podcasts. Please join us 1165 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 1: next time for more on making work and life work together.