WEBVTT - The PerkinElmer Story: Part One

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<v Speaker 1>Get in test with technology with text stuff from half

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<v Speaker 1>stuff dot com. Everyone, and welcome to text Stuff. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland and I'm Lauren, both of them, and today

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<v Speaker 1>our episode, part one of a two part episode comes

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<v Speaker 1>to us courtesy of a listener request. Richard on Facebook said,

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<v Speaker 1>how about doing a show on Perkin Elmer from optics

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<v Speaker 1>for the war, computers, medical devices, etcetera. And can't forget

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<v Speaker 1>the fault faulty Hubble lends that was never tested it

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<v Speaker 1>before sending up to space. A show could have been

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<v Speaker 1>made just on this blooper. We agree, we could have

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<v Speaker 1>done a show really probably about the Hubble space telescope

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<v Speaker 1>in general, but we're going to cover the Perkin Elmer

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<v Speaker 1>part of that in the second part of this episode

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<v Speaker 1>because it's complex, y'all. Yeah, they really do have their

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<v Speaker 1>hands in a lot of different projects, partially because, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>because we're talking about multiple companies and all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>mergers and corporate shenanigans to go on over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of this company's history. But the more that we started

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<v Speaker 1>researching that, the more we realized exactly how much they've

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<v Speaker 1>had their fingers in, how many really important historical events

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<v Speaker 1>they've had their fingers in right, and and part of

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<v Speaker 1>that complicated nature comes to us from the the the

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that two big companies merged together, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least parts of two big companies merged together to form

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<v Speaker 1>the modern day Perkin Elmer. So the very the Perkin

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<v Speaker 1>Elmer that exist today is not exactly the same company

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<v Speaker 1>that made the the ill fated mirror for the Hubble

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<v Speaker 1>space telescope um. And in fact, we have to go

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<v Speaker 1>pretty far back and look at these two individual companies

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<v Speaker 1>that remained individual companies for a really long time to

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<v Speaker 1>get a real handle on what this company is all about.

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<v Speaker 1>And also the stuff that each company makes really complicated

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<v Speaker 1>science and technology stuff. So that's why this episode is

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<v Speaker 1>doubly complicated. You got the Shenanigans, and you got the

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<v Speaker 1>technolo oology. We could also, I mean, we could really

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<v Speaker 1>do stories on any one of these technological innovations that

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be talking about. And uh so, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let us know if any of them, uh sporks spark

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<v Speaker 1>your interest. Were I would like it if they would

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<v Speaker 1>spark the interest. Yeah, I um, it's true. We could

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<v Speaker 1>take any one of these and make a full episode

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Uh So, we're giving you the cliffs notes

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<v Speaker 1>version of a lot of these. We will be giving

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<v Speaker 1>you some science one oh one, which was very important

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<v Speaker 1>for me because it's been a long time since I've

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<v Speaker 1>taken any chemistry classes physics classes, so I needed the reminder.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure some of our listeners do too. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into all of this, what what is

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<v Speaker 1>Perkin Elmer? What did they do? Uh? You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish there were an easy, simple, like one sentence. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the elevator pitch for Perkin Elmer is

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<v Speaker 1>other than to say it's an international, multibillion dollar company

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<v Speaker 1>and it calls itself a global leader focused on improving

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<v Speaker 1>human and environmental health. But that that does not give

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<v Speaker 1>you a full indication of all the stuff they do.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's pretty heavily geared toward making scientific equipment and

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<v Speaker 1>process SATs. So sort of the if you think of

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff that whenever you see like complicated things happening

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<v Speaker 1>in laboratories, they have their hands in that. So a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of it in the health industry in particular, especially

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<v Speaker 1>more recently. But you know, it's kind of funny because

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<v Speaker 1>you look back at the origins of all this and

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<v Speaker 1>you would never imagine that this incredibly complicated company would

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<v Speaker 1>spring up from from from what it did. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>so Perkin Elmer was indeed started by two dudes named

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<v Speaker 1>Parking and Elmer. But due to the aforementioned of vultron

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<v Speaker 1>like combination of multiple corporations that we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, we're kicking off by talking about some important

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<v Speaker 1>people who are neither Perkin nor Elmer, right, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are just as important to the company as it exists

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<v Speaker 1>today as anyone else. And so back in nineteen thirty one,

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<v Speaker 1>Professor Harold doc Edgerton of m i T partnered with

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<v Speaker 1>two students, Kenneth Germshalsen and Herbert Greyer to study high

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<v Speaker 1>speed photography and stroboscopic techniques. So the idea here was

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<v Speaker 1>that they wanted to, you know, photography was still a

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<v Speaker 1>fairly young uh art and science at this time, and

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to be able to make cameras that could

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<v Speaker 1>take photos of stuff that's in motion without it being

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<v Speaker 1>really blurry. And so they really began to put their

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<v Speaker 1>minds to this, and they all kind of formed this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of research partnership, uh not necessarily thinking about making

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<v Speaker 1>a full company at this point, but that was the

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<v Speaker 1>origin of their part Meanwhile, in seven another partnership would form,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was between banker Richard S. Perkin, who was

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one at the time, and a court reporter by

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<v Speaker 1>the name of Charles w Elmer, who was sixty five

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. And I find their age difference just

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<v Speaker 1>interesting in the fact that they would go on to

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<v Speaker 1>do so many things together and what if they bond

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<v Speaker 1>over They were both really interested in astronomy. UM. The

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<v Speaker 1>company first helped import and then design optics and procedures

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<v Speaker 1>with with a primary interest in astronomical equipment UM and

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<v Speaker 1>and this was due to Okay, so so perkins childhood

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<v Speaker 1>passion was astronomy. He was putting together his own telescopes

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<v Speaker 1>by the age of eleven and grinding his own lenses

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<v Speaker 1>by the age of thirteen. I don't even want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the things I did at age thirteen. They

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<v Speaker 1>seemed so incredibly trivial in comparison. Yeah, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>was playing a lot of Donkey Kong Country at the time. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But he he studied chemical engineering for a year at college,

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<v Speaker 1>then left for Wall Street, hence the banker thing. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>The two of them actually met when Elmer was delivering

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<v Speaker 1>an amateur astronomy lecture at the Brooklyn Institute UM. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, the the Custer Institute and Observatory in New

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<v Speaker 1>York was named for Elmer's wife. They were really serious

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<v Speaker 1>amateur astronomers and would begin construction of that public observatory

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<v Speaker 1>that the Custer Observatory UM in ninety eight. So Perkin

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<v Speaker 1>and Elmer began importing optical instruments from Europe because the

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<v Speaker 1>US wasn't manufacturing a whole lot of that at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>But within a year they would begin manufacturing their own

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<v Speaker 1>out of New Jersey. And then in nineteen thirty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>Perkin Elmer incorporates. So there's something else that happened right

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<v Speaker 1>around nineteen thirty nine. Yeah, little thing you might have

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<v Speaker 1>heard of World War two um it, but basically broke

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<v Speaker 1>out around the same time and started creating a huge

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<v Speaker 1>demand for for field optics, you know, periscopes and range finders, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>gun sights and cameras and all kinds of stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Perkin Elmer began to branch out at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time that group that I talked about earlier, Edgerton

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<v Speaker 1>and germ Shausen and Greer, and I apologize if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>totally misspelling or mispronouncing rather their names that that became

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<v Speaker 1>known as E. G and G, which makes life so

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<v Speaker 1>much easier. And they also were being, uh, pretty instrumental

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<v Speaker 1>in the war effort. We'll talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>that in just a couple of seconds. But nineteen forty

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<v Speaker 1>one we get into one of the first major products

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<v Speaker 1>from Perkin Elmer. It was a spectra photometer. So what

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<v Speaker 1>the heck does that mean? I mean, you hear spectro photometer,

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<v Speaker 1>and you start to try and break it down, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's only so much that an ignorant person such as

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<v Speaker 1>myself can do before I say, okay, I is it

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<v Speaker 1>a ghost light meter. No, it is not a specter photometer,

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<v Speaker 1>spectro photometer. I'm gonna go need to take some different notes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well we'll be right back. Okay, we're back, and now

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<v Speaker 1>we understand what this is kind of now, So, a

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<v Speaker 1>spectra photometer measures the amount of light that's either absorbed

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<v Speaker 1>or transmitted reflected from a sample object. So you pass

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<v Speaker 1>a beam of light through a sample and then by

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<v Speaker 1>observing the intensity of the light that reaches a detector

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side, you can determine exactly how much

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<v Speaker 1>of a particular material happens to be, say, in in

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<v Speaker 1>that sample. Usually you're talking about solution of some sort.

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<v Speaker 1>So you shine the light through and by observing that,

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<v Speaker 1>by by measuring the light, you can really determine what

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<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff is in there and how much of

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<v Speaker 1>a concentration there is. Because different materials absorb different kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of light, different wavelengths, different colors of light. Um. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can figure out what type of material you're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with or um or detect particular materials in like

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<v Speaker 1>a blood sample for example. Yeah, really really useful technology.

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<v Speaker 1>And in nineteen six the United States government awards herald

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<v Speaker 1>Doc Edgerton the Medal of Freedom for his work in

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<v Speaker 1>developing technology for night time photography. And you might wonder, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the big deal there, Well, when you're talking about wartime,

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<v Speaker 1>when you have to go on these missions to try

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<v Speaker 1>and determine what the enemy uh fortifications are, what they're

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<v Speaker 1>where they are, and you want to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>take these these images at night, it became incredibly important.

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<v Speaker 1>And so his work with E. G and G became

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<v Speaker 1>something that was so notable that the government ended up

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<v Speaker 1>awarding him the Medal of Freedom after World War Two.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we move on to nineteen and E G and

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<v Speaker 1>G Incorporates. So Perkin Elmer had already incorporated E G

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<v Speaker 1>and G Incorporates. And the only real reason I could

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<v Speaker 1>find that they incorporated was not because they had intended

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<v Speaker 1>to make a big company, but was because a certain

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<v Speaker 1>governmental agency urged them to incorporate. And that would be

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<v Speaker 1>the Atomic Energy Commission or a e C. Now a

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<v Speaker 1>e C formed after the end of World War two

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<v Speaker 1>and had the goal of developing atomic energy for peace

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<v Speaker 1>time applications. So that raises the question what sort of

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<v Speaker 1>peaceful applications was E G m G working on. How

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<v Speaker 1>about creating timed and triggered nuclear bomb. Yeah, that's super peaceful.

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<v Speaker 1>So they were really looking at a triggering systems. Um

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<v Speaker 1>that not the bombs themselves. They didn't build bombs, but

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<v Speaker 1>they build the systems that either would allow a bomb

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<v Speaker 1>to trigger or a timed system that would then have

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<v Speaker 1>a bomb go off. And they weren't necessarily thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>bombs just for military purposes, as we'll find a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later, although I think at this time it was

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<v Speaker 1>primarily for military purposes. Ah. Yeah, all of those bombs

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<v Speaker 1>for private sector purposes are I'm I'm not sure where

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<v Speaker 1>that's going. I mean, however, in better news late in

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<v Speaker 1>in in that same year, Edgerton would publish his first

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<v Speaker 1>article in National Geographic Magazine called Hummingbirds in Action. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic contrast to making trigger systems for nuclear bombs. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you're wondering what the whole hummingbirds and action thing was. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>he kept working on creating better and better high speed photography,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was able at this point to take pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of hummingbirds and get a clear view of their wings

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<v Speaker 1>while they were in flight instead of just that blur

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<v Speaker 1>that you would usually see. So again, more examples of

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<v Speaker 1>him working in that field. Okay, this is a lovely

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<v Speaker 1>pleasant note. While we are in this terrific mood, let's

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<v Speaker 1>take just a quick break for a word from our sponsor. Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back nineteen nine. We get a the PE model

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<v Speaker 1>five to a flame photometer from Brokin Elmer. There So,

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<v Speaker 1>flame photometer, flame photometer, yep, what what's a flame photogram?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, I had to do so much research in

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<v Speaker 1>this episode. So this is another instrument that helps you

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<v Speaker 1>analyze materials. Okay, so you essentially burned them to analyze them.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hope you don't need it after you analyze it,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're going to be out of luck. So what

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<v Speaker 1>you usually would do is you would spray a solution

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<v Speaker 1>of metallic salts. You would have these metallic ions in

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<v Speaker 1>a solution that you you spray into a chamber that

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<v Speaker 1>has an extremely hot flame. We're talking like degrees celsius

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<v Speaker 1>hot enough to vaporize the sample YEA, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>light given off by the vaporized solution can be analyzed. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and certain elements will give off certain types of light

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<v Speaker 1>during this vaporization process of exactly, so you'll get different

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<v Speaker 1>colors that way, and by analyzing those colors, you can

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<v Speaker 1>determine exactly what those elements are and their concentration within

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<v Speaker 1>that mixture. So it's usually used in inorganic chemistry applications

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<v Speaker 1>because again you're looking at metallic ions, you're not you're

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<v Speaker 1>not looking at organics like carbon based material. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>move on to nineteen fifty. That's when E. G and

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<v Speaker 1>G perfects an ultra high speed photography technique that allows

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<v Speaker 1>a camera with no moving mechanical parts to take images

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<v Speaker 1>with an exposure time as short as four millions of

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<v Speaker 1>a second, So there was a very specific reason they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to develop this camera. That was around the same

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<v Speaker 1>time that that nuclear blast testing was going on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're we're talking about areas in the South Pacific,

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<v Speaker 1>uninhabited areas in the South Pacific where the United States

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<v Speaker 1>was testing nuclear bombs, and they needed to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to take images of this. But the problem was that

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<v Speaker 1>those bombs give off a little bit of light, and

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<v Speaker 1>by a little bit of light, I mean a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of light, so much light. So finding a way

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<v Speaker 1>to have a camera that could take that image with

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<v Speaker 1>stand that much light was really challenging. And they found

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<v Speaker 1>this way of creating a camera where as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>that that light hit the camera, it would then activate

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<v Speaker 1>the shutter without any mechanical parts, so it could take

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<v Speaker 1>that picture that instant and they could get a really

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<v Speaker 1>good look at what happens the moment after a bomb explodes. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of years later, Edgerton would be the photographer

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<v Speaker 1>who who went to the South Pacific to take pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of the h bomb there. Yeah. He uh, he stood

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<v Speaker 1>always away several miles. Yeah, it's not not good to

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<v Speaker 1>be right at ground zero. For that ninety one, Perkin

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<v Speaker 1>Elmer offers an infrared spectra photometer. So essentially we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about just uh an additional tool here for chemical analysis,

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<v Speaker 1>and it allows you to use a different, different part

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<v Speaker 1>of the spectrum of light, the infrared spectrum, in that

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<v Speaker 1>type of analysis, which gave you a broader range of

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<v Speaker 1>materials you could use that that particular process on so

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<v Speaker 1>important development. I have nothing more to say of at it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do have a lot to say about this one,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's see if I can say it correctly. Nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty four, Perkin Elmer introduces the TI Celius electrophoresis instrument. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I got that on the first try. You did,

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<v Speaker 1>so I had to sit there. I saw electrophoresis and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of like spectro photometer. I see this word.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, I know what some of these syllables mean.

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<v Speaker 1>What the heck is this? We we actually talked a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about this in our episode on how gene

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<v Speaker 1>Therapy works, which was published on December. Come on, Lauren,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember what episodes we do when I'm aware.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why. That's why I'm reminding for it. For anyone

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<v Speaker 1>else out there who perhaps has a vaguely faulty memory

0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of like me. Yes, but so okay, So what

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<v Speaker 1>is electrophoresis? This is actually really cool and it did

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<v Speaker 1>start to sound familiar as I was looking more into it.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish my brain would just hold onto information longer.

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<v Speaker 1>So electrophoresis is a process where chemists use charged electric

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<v Speaker 1>fields to manipulate molecules within a solution. So you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a solution in there if you use this this uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you apply this um electric field to the fluid,

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually move molecules around within a solution and

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<v Speaker 1>thus start to sort them right. And by by tuning

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<v Speaker 1>that field, yeah, you can you can select molecules for

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<v Speaker 1>for their size, or their makeup, or or their charge exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So this means that within a solution itself, which may

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<v Speaker 1>have lots of different types of molecules in it, you

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<v Speaker 1>can start to sort things through. Again, very important in chemistry.

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<v Speaker 1>Not something that I would necessarily ever use, or that

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<v Speaker 1>anyone with the in the right mind would ever let

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<v Speaker 1>me get near. But it's super cool. No, no electricity

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<v Speaker 1>for you ever. No, I'm not even allowed to use

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<v Speaker 1>a computer anymore. I get all my information by talking

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<v Speaker 1>to this guy on the street. He's nice, though, breakin

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<v Speaker 1>Elmer unveils the vapor fractometer. When am I going to

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<v Speaker 1>land on an instrument that I understand immediately just based

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<v Speaker 1>upon the name? I? How how many degrees do you have?

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<v Speaker 1>In scientific I have zero degrees and never Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably never gonna happen. So this is the first commercially

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<v Speaker 1>available gas chromatograph chromatograph. So now this case, I knew

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<v Speaker 1>what a chromatograph was. That one I understood. Um, I've

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<v Speaker 1>never used one, but I am familiar with what they're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to do. That's actually when I had to look

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<v Speaker 1>up some good times. I'm glad. I'm glad that we

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<v Speaker 1>flipped back and forth. So in order to understand exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what a chromatograph is and why it's important, we need

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<v Speaker 1>to do a little chemistry one oh one, right, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>just to just to define some terms. So first we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna define the term mixture, and it's pretty much what

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<v Speaker 1>you would think it is. A mixture is a substance

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<v Speaker 1>of at least two or more components that are mixed

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<v Speaker 1>together but do not in any way chemically combine. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you can physically separate the components of a mixture. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you if you thought of like, um, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, iron filings and some non ferres material like sand,

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<v Speaker 1>and you mix them together. If you had a magnet,

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<v Speaker 1>you could pull the iron silings out of that without

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<v Speaker 1>affecting the sand. There's no chemical common combining going on there. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Then you have solution. And a solution is sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a subset of what a mixture is. So not all

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<v Speaker 1>mixtures are solutions, but all solutions are mixtures, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>in this one. In in a solution, you've got one

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<v Speaker 1>substance that has been dissolved into another. That the solute

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<v Speaker 1>is dissolved into the solvent. That's correct, And so it

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<v Speaker 1>makes it look like it's a single substance because of

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<v Speaker 1>that that dissolving factor. So saltwater, for example, looks like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a single substance. It's just it's it's water that

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<v Speaker 1>happens to be salty. But if you were to boil

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<v Speaker 1>off the water, the salt would remain behind, once again

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<v Speaker 1>showing that this is truly a mixture. The salt has

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<v Speaker 1>not chemically bonded in this case, so you do have

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<v Speaker 1>to go an extra step there by boiling it. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't just physically remove it like you know. You could

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<v Speaker 1>maybe filter it out the thousand times using very very

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<v Speaker 1>fine filters, but that's it still is a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>work than you know your basic macro exture. Sure. Sure, However,

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<v Speaker 1>compounds are materials in which two or more elements have

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<v Speaker 1>chemically combined. Right, So salt is an example. Salt water

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<v Speaker 1>is a mixture, but salt is a compound. Salt is

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<v Speaker 1>sodium and chloride that has been combined together chemically, and

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<v Speaker 1>that changes the chemical composition. So you anyone who's done

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<v Speaker 1>any chemistry knows sodium, for example, explosive when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>in contact with water, uh, chlorine and it's and it's

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<v Speaker 1>our chloride and all of those kind of a lovely materials,

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<v Speaker 1>not so healthy to be around. But sodium chloride, when

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<v Speaker 1>you add the two together, totally harmless, table salt delicious, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>as moderate amounts people moderate amounts. So chromatography refers to

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<v Speaker 1>this broad collection of physical methods that are used to

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<v Speaker 1>separate and analyze complex mixtures, and it gets its name

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<v Speaker 1>from the practice of using these methods to separate out

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<v Speaker 1>the various pigments that were found in plants, and each

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<v Speaker 1>pigment was different colors. So the process became known as chromatography,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you were to translate, it would roughly mean

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<v Speaker 1>to right colors right w R I T E. So

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<v Speaker 1>we still use that term today, even if we're not

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<v Speaker 1>really concerned about colors at all. We just want to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to separate out a mixture. I think in

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<v Speaker 1>most most cases these days, we're not concerned about colors.

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<v Speaker 1>That's usually the case. Yet, So in gas chromatography, the

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<v Speaker 1>process of separating these components of a mixture out is

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<v Speaker 1>going to involve first again vaporizing the sample, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes sense because you want it to be a

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<v Speaker 1>gas example, happens to be liquid or solid. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>a problem right there. Um. Then you're going to pass

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<v Speaker 1>the gas through this equipment and the different components in

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<v Speaker 1>it are going to migrate at different rates based on

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<v Speaker 1>on the size or some of the chemical uh chemical

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<v Speaker 1>properties properties exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah. So if you have

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<v Speaker 1>just just imagine you've got this gas, it's got different

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<v Speaker 1>types of molecules in it by by applying some force

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<v Speaker 1>to it, depending upon what you know, what method you're using,

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<v Speaker 1>because again, chromatography is a collection of processes. Then these

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<v Speaker 1>molecules of different components move at different speeds. Usually what

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<v Speaker 1>they're moving through is this absorptive materials. And okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>ad absorptive. I did not mispronounce that. That's that's absorptive,

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<v Speaker 1>not absorptive UM. And I just like saying that word

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<v Speaker 1>now um and and adsorptive surface is um. I mean basically,

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that stuff sticks to. It's a physical process,

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<v Speaker 1>which differentiates it from absorption, which is either chemical or

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<v Speaker 1>energetic UM. For for example, water sticks to sand or

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<v Speaker 1>silica gel, which is essentially really fancy sand. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to watch a whole video about that, I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it on brain stuff. So you can just

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<v Speaker 1>search for silica gel brain stuff on your interweb's brows

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<v Speaker 1>arab choice and then you can find out all about

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. So you then have these two or more

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<v Speaker 1>components within a mixture moving at different speeds against this

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<v Speaker 1>adsorptive material and so they're going and to stick at

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<v Speaker 1>different points on this absorbative surface, which ultimately means you've

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<v Speaker 1>separated out those materials. Very important in chemistry and the

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<v Speaker 1>big benefit of the vapor fractometer. Ha ha, you thought

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<v Speaker 1>we forgot about that that's the whole reason we had

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<v Speaker 1>chemistry one on one people. But the vapor fractometer the important.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason why it was important was because it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>require specialists. It didn't require a highly trained chemist to

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<v Speaker 1>operate it, so that you could separate out these materials

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<v Speaker 1>within a complex mixture, which meant that you could have

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<v Speaker 1>lab technicians running this instrument and then you could have

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<v Speaker 1>your fancy schmancy scientists doing something else somewhere else. It

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<v Speaker 1>was really kind of a labor saving device in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of ways in the laboratory. Sure, and if you're

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<v Speaker 1>wondering what exactly this kind of thing is used for, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it can be. It can it can automatically determine, say

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<v Speaker 1>like the alcohol level and blood or um the flavors

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<v Speaker 1>or pollutants or other chemical compounds and stuff like water

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<v Speaker 1>or food or booze, which are all important to chemically.

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<v Speaker 1>These are important things. So nineteen fifty six that's when E.

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<v Speaker 1>G and G participates in programs to develop nuclear propulsion engines.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying that to make people a mad nuclear

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<v Speaker 1>propulsion engines for space vehicles. They also start to develop

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<v Speaker 1>commercial products for the first time, including flash tubes and

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<v Speaker 1>high speed measurement instruments. Those flash tubes will come really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting in a few moments too. In nineteen fifty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>E G and G supports the a EC Plowshare program.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where we're talking about the peaceful use of

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear explosives. Yeah, so instead of trying to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>weaponize nuclear bombs, they're talking about using it to do

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<v Speaker 1>things like dig canals or harbors or look for natural gas. Uh. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It was around that time that a treaty was signed

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<v Speaker 1>to ban nuclear weapons testing. Yeah. Yeah, lasted about two years,

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<v Speaker 1>so yea, yeah, nineteen fifty nine. This was a fun one,

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting little bit. Edgerton joins of a famous fellow,

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<v Speaker 1>Jacques Yes, and they use E. G and G underwater

0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:08.879
<v Speaker 1>cameras and light sources to do ocean exploration. And I

0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:12.080
<v Speaker 1>get the feeling that Edgerton was really was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like an adventurous sort and truly brought his expertise in

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<v Speaker 1>photography to lots of different fields. He sounds, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>although I hadn't heard the name, I think before we

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<v Speaker 1>started doing this episode, he sounds a little bit like

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<v Speaker 1>a science rock star of the of the nineteen sixties era,

0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:29.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of which that that I had heard of him before. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we might. Maybe one day we'll do a full episode

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<v Speaker 1>just on his contributions, because they do go outside of

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<v Speaker 1>just E. G and G. So, in nineteen sixty two,

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<v Speaker 1>M I. T. Scientists use E. G. And G xenon

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<v Speaker 1>flash tubes to shine a light on the surface of

0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:47.320
<v Speaker 1>the Moon, like from Earth. Yeah, like flashlight on the moon, right, So,

0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:49.359
<v Speaker 1>like you know, normally the light on the Moon is

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<v Speaker 1>coming from the Sun. Not this time, it's coming from

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<v Speaker 1>a xenon flash tube. That is amazing. Nineteen sixty three,

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<v Speaker 1>Perk and Elmer introduces the atomic absorption spectra of the ptometer.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know what you're thinking, Okay, what does that mean. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry, I looked into it for you. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>an instrument that atomizes a sample, usually by applying a

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:13.960
<v Speaker 1>whole lot of heat to it. Again we like burning

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<v Speaker 1>stuff here in science, yep. And then the spectral photometer

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<v Speaker 1>shines light through that atomized sample, and elemental atoms absorbed light,

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<v Speaker 1>but only at a particular wavelength specific to that element.

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<v Speaker 1>So sodium would absorb certain wavelengths and potassium would absorb

0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:32.879
<v Speaker 1>other wavelengths. So once you know that once you know

0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:35.960
<v Speaker 1>which elements absorb which wavelengths, then if you shine a

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<v Speaker 1>light through this atomized mixture and have a detector on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side, and you detect for specific wavelengths and

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<v Speaker 1>you know you know how much should be coming through,

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<v Speaker 1>and you see how much is actually coming through. That

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<v Speaker 1>tells you subtract and figure out how much of any

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:53.160
<v Speaker 1>given element is in your sample. Exactly, Lauren, you beat

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:55.399
<v Speaker 1>me to it. That's exactly right. So it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things where you know, it's a kind of an

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<v Speaker 1>ingenious way of figuring out what was in that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you just blew up, uh, and in a much more

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<v Speaker 1>specific atomic level way than any of the previous burning

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<v Speaker 1>and or spectra of p autometer methods that we have

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<v Speaker 1>previously described. Right, Okay, so we've got a lot more

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