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Speaker 1: All right, Q.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's one of one of them killers,

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Speaker 2: my old teammate and I so this is gonna be

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Speaker 2: a very very good one. You might not know nothing

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Speaker 2: about it because you ain't play with this killer. You're

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But Marcus Man, you know

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Speaker 2: I always loved your game. We followed you since high school.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you being on the show. It's been a long

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Speaker 2: time coming. And just thank you man for being on

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Speaker 2: the show and rocking with us.

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Speaker 3: No thanks for having me man. I mean I was

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Speaker 3: surprised when you hit me up. I was like, why

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Speaker 3: didn't you hit me up? You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: And we go, oh.

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Speaker 1: Did I already know? Man?

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Speaker 2: You know you try to play agent. You know, he

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Speaker 2: tried to be big brother all the time, so you

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Speaker 2: gotta you know, that's my oldest boy, so you know,

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Speaker 2: I gotta let him do what he do.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad everybody is watching and listening to this get

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Speaker 4: to see that I gotta do all the legwork. And

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Speaker 4: this is one of his old teammates that I had

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Speaker 4: to contact that sent.

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Speaker 2: That's that just you know, I gotta I gotta let

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Speaker 2: him feel good.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: That's that's it. I gotta I gotta keep him in game.

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Speaker 2: You know how you do your kids, you know. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: who was the first person in the league to bust

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Speaker 2: your head?

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Speaker 3: I've seen y'all. Y'all probably wouldn't. I mean Zebos first,

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Speaker 3: but you're talking about in the game. You're seeing practice

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Speaker 3: at Zebo. Like we went at it, and I enjoyed

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Speaker 3: the physical battle because, as I told, he helped make

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Speaker 1: If you tell my any game him down big fund

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Speaker 1: the big fundamental.

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Speaker 3: Like fourteen straight points and then hit me on the

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Speaker 3: button and said, you're gonna be okay. I was like, no,

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Speaker 3: for me, my, and I was thinking about him.

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Speaker 4: You can't even be mad, and he was such a

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Speaker 4: nice guy. You can't even get you somewhere you want to.

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Speaker 2: Fight, say the nicest insults in in NBA history.

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Speaker 3: Ship me so I can get mad. Not man, you

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Speaker 3: hit me on the like, it's okay, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm staying like you tried. I'm like this, he'd being

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Speaker 3: nice to me right now, but now I remember the story.

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Speaker 3: So he gets the backscreen, backscreen to the block, so

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Speaker 3: I fight.

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Speaker 1: Through the screen baseline.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I fight through all the screens and I beat him.

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Speaker 3: There I'm waiting for him. Yeah, you ain't going nowhere.

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Speaker 3: Boom bump me right here. Okay, cool, come back the

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Speaker 3: same again. This time he spent to the backline that

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Speaker 3: little one handed like a little flip shot. Okay, yeah, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: that's four. So then they keep running again eight ten, twelve,

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Speaker 3: and then time out. I come to the side. I'm like, Nate,

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Speaker 3: are you gonna help me? He's like, hey, my motherfuckers.

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Speaker 1: You can't slop.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what, Like, let's doubles?

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Speaker 1: Like smart, if we double him, let's jump jump. He

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Speaker 1: was like, he's too smart.

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Speaker 3: If he double with him, he's gonna swing, swing, and

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Speaker 3: the guy in the corners of.

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Speaker 1: That right path.

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Speaker 3: Kill him. If we double him, it's gonna be threes

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Speaker 3: if you get your ass bust. It's just too So

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Speaker 3: I'm like, but this ship is embarrassing, like full straight

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Speaker 3: points on you, Like you want some help, man, nigga,

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Speaker 3: I think you paged the game like twenty eight thirty

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Speaker 3: and I'm just after the game. I'm pissed because he

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Speaker 3: just busts my mind the whole game and it wasn't

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Speaker 3: nothing like he didn't rip through and dunk on me.

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Speaker 3: It was just all fundamental, like shoulder work, jump, hug,

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Speaker 3: shoulder work, fade away.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, simple shit, simple adn't say nothing the whole game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, simple shit, encouraging me the whole game. Keep trying.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get better.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy, yo, yo yo.

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Speaker 1: We live on location. Me and the blackest one.

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Speaker 4: We had to go find one of d Miles Young Ruggs,

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Speaker 4: one of his old teammates, for this one man.

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Speaker 1: We got the young boy that became a man.

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Speaker 4: We got Dallas, Texas finest seven time all start, five

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Speaker 4: times all NBA. We got the markets all dredge in

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Speaker 4: the building, y'all. We appreciate you pulling up lay.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you brother. Thank y'all.

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Speaker 3: M h.

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Speaker 1: H Dallas, Texas.

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Speaker 2: So just tell us about coming up in Dallas and

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Speaker 2: who put the ball in your hand.

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Speaker 1: Probably like my brother and my cousins.

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Speaker 3: They always hoo like these kids these days thought, you know,

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Speaker 3: like what we did back in the day, Like you

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Speaker 3: were going to the park on the Saturday and just

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Speaker 3: hoot all day.

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Speaker 1: No playground hoo for these kids.

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Speaker 3: They in at all day and yeah, yeah, they got.

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Speaker 1: Trainers and trainers. Yeah it's a different speed.

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Speaker 3: But nah, man, like my brother was real good and

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Speaker 3: we would go to the park and then my cousins

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Speaker 3: always around it, you know, as you know, if you're

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Speaker 3: around the longer enough like that ship, just you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, just catch out, and I can't wanting

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Speaker 3: to get better and get better, I would say like

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Speaker 3: probably like my brother and my cousin put it, you

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, like, put me engage with it.

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Speaker 2: Was you always like the tallest guy in school when

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Speaker 2: you was coming up?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, always man, tallert guy in the class.

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Speaker 3: You taller than your brother too? Yeah he was six'.

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Speaker 3: Eight i'm six to, Eleven so YEAH i was. Talking

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Speaker 3: he was always big brother until like sophomore junior, year.

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Speaker 1: Got even with.

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Speaker 3: Him, yeah, RIGHT i became big little brother AND i

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Speaker 3: started teaching him. Lessons but, yeah he was always better

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Speaker 1: Year THEN i took.

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Speaker 2: Over you, KNOW i didn't have a, Brother but how

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Speaker 2: was it getting to that level where you know your

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Speaker 2: brother is winning against, you you coming up under them

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Speaker 2: and then tell us that first game that you actually

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Speaker 2: like beat, him beat him for.

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Speaker 3: Real first of, all like this shit's frustrating because it's

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Speaker 3: like you be at you be out there giving.

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Speaker 1: Him all the whole, bag and you ain't getting close to.

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Speaker 1: Winning he's just smarter.

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Speaker 3: Than you that, point he stronger than, you you know

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Speaker 3: What i'm, saying experience or. Whatever so now it was like,

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Speaker 3: getting nothing. Done but then my sophomore, YEAR i remember

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Speaker 3: he was, like let's go play, once AND i was,

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Speaker 3: like let's get. It so we went to my high.

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Speaker 3: SCHOOL i had an actual key at the, time went in

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Speaker 3: there AND i REMEMBER i was hooping against him and

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Speaker 3: it was like. EASY i was like buying with the.

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Speaker 3: Shoulder then. FADE i was, like, oh like BUT i

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Speaker 3: figured this ship out AND i stick kind of punk.

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Speaker 3: Flaking he's flying, By i'm, dunking And i'm, LIKE i

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Speaker 3: THINK i was in my head so much WHEN i

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Speaker 1: Doing you know What i'm.

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Speaker 3: SAYING i slowed down and used my skills AND i

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Speaker 3: was like hold, on, man he ain't that much better than. Me, No,

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Speaker 3: Moore AND i remember the first game was like twelve.

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Speaker 3: Two he was.

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Speaker 1: Pissed he was, like run that shit.

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Speaker 3: BACK i was, like, bad.

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Speaker 1: Exactly the same.

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Speaker 3: Thing it was like twelve three he was he was hot,

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Speaker 3: too AND i was, like, MAN i THINK i figured you. Out,

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Speaker 3: Bro Like i'm sure just use my strength against you

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Speaker 3: and Like i'm gonna win every. Time but you, know

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Speaker 3: he was way quicker than, me so that that he was.

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Speaker 3: Sick he went home To mom's and was going off

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Speaker 3: and like AND i was, like, well you know What i'm,

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Speaker 3: Saying like you beat me a thousand, times, Bro like

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Speaker 3: give me my two, times you know What i'm. Saying

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Speaker 3: BUT i, think, yeah that built my confidence up because

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Speaker 3: when you got this one person always killing you and killing,

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Speaker 1: What i'm, like you get, better but you like you

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Speaker 1: really getting.

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Speaker 3: That and WHEN i beat, HIM i was, like you know,

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Speaker 3: WHAT i, THINK i am ready now you know What i'm,

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Speaker 3: Saying like they gave me my extra confidence to go

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Speaker 3: kill more than the.

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Speaker 4: Season at what point when you, say like in high,

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Speaker 4: school did you point to it after you beat your

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Speaker 4: brother to like as far as like your total game

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Speaker 4: and the notarioty started to. Come you started, to you,

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Speaker 1: More, NO i would say freshman, year my man back

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Speaker 3: Day, man that was a stack Like Chris bosh, myself

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Speaker 3: same district play against each. Other you Had Brian, hopkins

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Speaker 3: SIGAVILLE i balled, out we got a ass, kick BUT

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Speaker 3: i held my own Versus, chris like you know What i'm,

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Speaker 3: Saying like LIKE i had like twenty eighty twelve or.

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Speaker 1: Like a good a good ass night for like you

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Speaker 3: Freshman AND i think AFTER i played well against, him

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Speaker 3: that's when the whole city and all the scouts was

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Speaker 3: like hold, up like Because chris was the, man like

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Speaker 3: or ozer and like they were a national. Chance so

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Speaker 3: like you got to get Through chris to kind of

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Speaker 3: show you know What i'm, saying.

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Speaker 1: Like you were? Him who are? Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Exactly so when the whole hood came out and they

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Speaker 3: OWN i feel like from that moment, ON i just

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Speaker 3: went up and, up you know What i'm.

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Speaker 2: Saying, yeah how was it going through high school? Building

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Speaker 2: you wrap up and you hearing your name being with

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Speaker 2: the McDonald's game and being one of the McDonald's. PLAYER i,

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Speaker 2: know you look at the history of the people who

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Speaker 2: came before you to be a part of that group

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Speaker 2: of saying that you want the best in the.

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Speaker 1: Country how is that for?

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Speaker 2: You?

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Speaker 3: Man it was like a full circle moment for me,

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Speaker 3: because LIKE i went into high, school my mom moved

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Speaker 3: To seaville to get me and my brother out of.

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Speaker 1: SO i couldn't.

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Speaker 3: Play, well that's the game that Like Dwight howard balled,

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Speaker 3: well my back was messed. UP i had a stress,

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Speaker 2: Me did you think about going straight out of high?

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Speaker 3: THEN i had got with somebody that helped me kind

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Speaker 3: Signs Now i'm going through this, now like they always

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Speaker 3: nobody really studying like the you, know the elute, physics

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Speaker 3: Saying so it's like you don't be having three hundred

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Speaker 3: Skinny it's other ways to get. Strong but that's a whole.

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Speaker 3: I'm hurt and LIKE i like my chances to, succeed

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Speaker 2: Worse could have been anybody else that almost got you

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Speaker 2: instead Of.

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Speaker 1: Texas, yeah it was like my final three.

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Speaker 3: Teams it came down To, Carolina texas Before, Carolina, Texas,

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma everybody love that Baby Blues.

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Speaker 1: CAROLINA i was.

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Speaker 2: Excited so which one of them teams that almost got you.

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Speaker 3: Texas, Well, oklahoma many they worked. HARD i JUST i

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Speaker 3: was all it came down, To Like. FLORIDA i feel

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Speaker 3: LIKE i almost went To florida LIKE i, was but

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Speaker 3: they were. Stacked so it was like they came down

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Speaker 3: to this ut had just went to the final, FOUR

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Speaker 3: i think two years prior with THAT tj for so

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Speaker 3: you get MORE tv, games you get better.

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Speaker 1: Gear, yeah like.

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Speaker 4: They can shout out my, DOLL tj, man that's my

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Speaker 1: There that's good.

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Speaker 3: People so once he took them to the, four then

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Speaker 3: it's LIKE i can go To florida and they stacked

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Speaker 3: AND i can go. Play SO i Picked texas because

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Speaker 2: And they have to, wait you have one of the

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Speaker 2: best mid range jumper IN nba. History like who taught

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Speaker 2: you how to?

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Speaker 1: Shoot?

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Speaker 2: SO i, mean but when did you get the? Touch

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Speaker 1: That so long story, short went to school first.

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Speaker 3: Year it be like five games in And i'm like

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Speaker 3: head missed the whole, season and that's what you, Know

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Speaker 3: i'm having like regrets Of, MAN i could have had

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Speaker 3: Up so then Coach Rick burns came to me and

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Speaker 3: LIKE i had cracked the. BALL i tore all of

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Speaker 3: my leeguments and, stuff so like they had to do

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Speaker 3: everything in. There SO i was six weeks in college

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Speaker 3: Shots one hand. Shots, yeah.

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Speaker 1: SLOWLY i was, like you, KNOW i would make a

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Speaker 3: Back and then by the TIME i was almost back to,

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Speaker 3: It and then WHAT i did WAS i reprogrammed my muscle,

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Speaker 3: memory because like at first WHEN i used to, SHOOT

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Speaker 1: MEMORY i did it all, day like you, know back in,

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Speaker 3: Were, practiced you, know like twice a day during camp

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Speaker 3: There i'm in.

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Speaker 1: There i'm in there all, day just doing.

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Speaker 3: It so by the TIME i came back that, SUMMER

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Speaker 3: i was playing like open gym again, finally and like

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Speaker 3: know having shid six months of just one you, know

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Speaker 3: BACK i just had that.

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Speaker 1: Touch and then that following YEAR i balled out, there you,

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Speaker 1: know getting.

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Speaker 3: Drafted WHEN i came, back my shot just felt like,

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Speaker 3: crazy LIKE i could tell when it was off when

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Speaker 3: it was, on you know What i'm, Saying like you

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Speaker 3: get that touch when you just get six months of

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Speaker 3: just doing forum. Shots after, THAT i was.

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Speaker 1: Good WAS dj there with you and he came? Later

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Speaker 1: huh you, no he came after.

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Speaker 3: Me, yeah he came AFTER i was there a J

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Speaker 3: abrams and Uh d GiB and Then King paulina with

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Speaker 2: Right so being At Texas texas is one of the

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Speaker 2: the premium. Schools how was it leaving? Home you, know

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Speaker 2: it's crazy down there In austin having them horns on your.

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Speaker 2: Chests how was it when you first got To?

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Speaker 1: Texas? MAN i loved it from day.

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Speaker 3: ONE i became, real real cool With Vince young and

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Speaker 3: Seven young and like they're like big brothers to, me

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Speaker 3: like took care of, me kind of showed me. Around

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Speaker 3: my second year that we balled. Out we won like

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Speaker 3: BEST i think college sports school because track and field,

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Speaker 3: One vince won baseball. One so it was just like

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Speaker 3: that year was crazy for, Us like all the teams

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Speaker 3: were just doing their thing and it it was.

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Speaker 1: The whole campus.

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Speaker 5: Crazy what was that like everybody winning you know what

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Speaker 5: it was, like but it was it.

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Speaker 3: Was just, hype like everybody was just always like on

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Speaker 3: one because it was just like everybody just kept doing a,

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Speaker 3: thing and then we went to The elite, eight like

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Speaker 3: one game from the, four so we did our, thing

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Speaker 3: but not as good as everybody. Else it was just, like,

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Speaker 3: man the campus was lit that. Year everybody was just just.

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Speaker 2: Hyped what made you make the decision to go in the?

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Speaker 2: Draft you felt it was just time and it was.

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Speaker 3: Ready, YEAH i was always supposed to be one and,

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Speaker 3: done but, then AS i, said the injury kind of you,

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Speaker 3: know prolonged. Up, yeah SO i was also to be

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Speaker 3: one and. Done so for, me it was just LIKE

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Speaker 3: i balled out that year and then they were SAYING

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Speaker 3: i could be number, one number.

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Speaker 1: Two SO i said that.

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Speaker 3: With my, mom, like, well IF i can be number,

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Speaker 3: one number, two that there ain't no point in coming.

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Speaker 3: Back BECAUSE i was, like if a guy goes to

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Speaker 3: school to be a, lawyer then you, know and he

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Speaker 3: finishes and he can be a, Lawyer like he wouldn't

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Speaker 3: just stay in school for no, reason like you know

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Speaker 3: What i'm, Saying like you can go do what you

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Speaker 3: want to.

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Speaker 1: Do So i'm, like, wow.

440
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Speaker 3: Why come back and then ruin my chances of going

441
00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,359
Speaker 3: number one number two and get hurt or something Like

442
00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,159
Speaker 3: i'm out of. Here so for, me it was just.

443
00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,000
Speaker 3: Time and THEN i had a bunch of teams that were,

444
00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,320
Speaker 3: really really interested in, me so it was, like go

445
00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,000
Speaker 3: while you're, hot and don't you know What i'm, SAYING

446
00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,880
Speaker 3: i feel like some players might have stayed too long

447
00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,639
Speaker 3: in college and THEN i feel like they weren't getting

448
00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,879
Speaker 3: hot to like on the bubble or. Whatever you know

449
00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:10,800
Speaker 3: What i'm, saying.

450
00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,199
Speaker 2: Straight, up tell us about your draft, Experience like you,

451
00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:14,879
Speaker 2: know when we.

452
00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,439
Speaker 4: How many the workouts in the, declaration how ill let?

453
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:19,639
Speaker 3: Go?

454
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,639
Speaker 4: You you probably like D, miles you know you top five.

455
00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 4: Guys you just go on dinners and sit and meet

456
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,680
Speaker 4: with the. Owners don't really you, know they might check

457
00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,639
Speaker 4: your body fat or, something but you ain't really you

458
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,360
Speaker 4: ain't really doing all. This you ain't sparring with, nobody

459
00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,639
Speaker 4: LIKE i just sparted. Nobody BUT i did do some workout.

460
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,359
Speaker 4: Stuff SO i THINK i did three.

461
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:43,879
Speaker 3: WORKOUTS i Did toronto number, One chicago number, two and

462
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,359
Speaker 3: THEN i Did pour the number four and it was

463
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,360
Speaker 3: all good, Man like you know how it is man

464
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 3: when you you A jordan, Fan like when they flew

465
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:55,960
Speaker 3: me in for that, WORKOUT i like to hit the

466
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,040
Speaker 3: ground like this is. It i'm about to kill this.

467
00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:02,440
Speaker 3: Line you know What i'm. Saying, YEAH i didn't even

468
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 3: know wen.

469
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:03,959
Speaker 1: PLAYER i feel like you know What i'm.

470
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 3: Saying LIKE i was in like you, know like walking

471
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 3: into That price facility and just knowing, that like you

472
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:10,920
Speaker 3: know What i'm, Saying LIKE i was in the.

473
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 1: Same city as M. J like that that had.

474
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 3: Me HOW i killed that Workout like then miss a

475
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 3: shot bought him like off the, dribble LIKE i probably

476
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 3: missed like two or three. Shots i'm, like you know

477
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 3: what it's. Done, Deal i'm coming, Here LIKE i killed the.

478
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:29,439
Speaker 3: Workout but then after the workout they had me go

479
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,680
Speaker 3: to the weight room or, whatever and you, know like

480
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 3: people you, know like we we, worried but you, know

481
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 3: Like i'm, Strong i'm just, wiry so you, know like

482
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 3: they was testing me IN i was, solid but then

483
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 3: it went to the little squad test and then LIKE

484
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,719
Speaker 3: i did some squads and like my ankles came up

485
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 3: and they were like oh, no so, yeah like we

486
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 3: can't drift you like you're you have tight, ankles so

487
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 3: you're gonna have le problems and you won't play and

488
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 3: you won't.

489
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 1: Play longer than like two or three. YEARS i was like.

490
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 1: Wow so then LIKE i was so, SICK i called

491
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 1: my uh and they said that to you told my

492
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 1: agent tell me. That they told my.

493
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 2: Agent, yeah like The bulls organization used to say something

494
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 2: the wildest, shit.

495
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 4: So bro a lot of, them like they told ME

496
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,879
Speaker 4: i was crouched bound The celtics back, then like in

497
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 4: two thousand and they REMEMBER i had all on workouts with.

498
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 4: Them then they tried to get me to come back

499
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,159
Speaker 4: the day before the draft and they was like and

500
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,400
Speaker 4: one of, them like the little dude said something ABOUT

501
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,160
Speaker 4: i don't even know what they have croshed, bound MEAN

502
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 4: i just Didn't they don't know what it. Means but

503
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 4: they said like they said that like you, said say

504
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 4: it to my, agent like, yeah he's crosh, Bound like

505
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 4: what the fuck does that?

506
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 1: Mean like what what does that? Mean they be making

507
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: us some.

508
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 3: Stories SO i called my agent and we called my

509
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 3: trainer from my college who did all that. Stuff he was,

510
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 3: like his ankles are, typed but it won't be in his.

511
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 3: Shoe he showed like some TESTS i, did blah blah.

512
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 3: Blah they were, like, nah he won't play longer than

513
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 3: three or four. Years my first five years in the league,

514
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 3: iverage but most points versus them. OFFUCKERS i was, sick

515
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 3: LIKE i should be. HERE i you know What i'm,

516
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 3: SAYING i belong. HERE i was then they actually draft

517
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 3: that you and traded you on. Draft i'm, like, yeah

518
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 3: like y'all almost.

519
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah SO i was sick and THEN i went To.

520
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 3: PORTLAND i killed that, workout BUT i wasn't really Feeling,

521
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 3: portland which is. CRAZY i was, Like i'm going to you,

522
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 3: know like The bulls are going to figure this. Out i'm,

523
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 3: going you, Know i'm gonna be with The. Bulls and

524
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 3: they were, like but we don't, know like we really like.

525
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 3: You And i'm at dinner LIKE i don't really know about,

526
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 3: here like you know What i'm saying IF i was saying,

527
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 3: it But i'm in there LIKE i don't really, know

528
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 3: like you, know LIKE i probably won't be, here and

529
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 3: Like i'm really playing it. Off looking, BACK i, was you,

530
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 3: KNOW i was kind of dumb at the. MOMENT i

531
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 3: did not want to go To toronto to work out

532
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i was, LIKE i don't want to be out

533
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 3: of the. COUNTRY i don't want to be In, canada

534
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 3: like everybody, know like they taxies are ass LIKE i

535
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 3: don't want to go. There, Yeah like it's disrespectful if

536
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 3: you don't go to the number one.

537
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: Pick long story, SHORT i go up. There you know,

538
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: Me i'm a.

539
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 3: Pro SO i work out AND i actually did my

540
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 3: best workout ended up being, there And i'm, like. Oh

541
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 3: so then they called me and they were, like, well you,

542
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 3: Know chris is our, guy And chris wants us to draft.

543
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 3: You AND i was, like, MAN i would love to

544
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 3: play With, chris BUT i don't want to be a

545
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 3: long term center in the. League i'm, LIKE i ain't

546
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 3: trying to go a. SHOT i ain't trying to go you,

547
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 3: know you, know Like i'm more of a power. Forward i'm,

548
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,479
Speaker 3: LIKE i was, yeah bro. Man SO i was, Like

549
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 3: i'm not trying to play, center and they were, like,

550
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 3: well we think that we can play off of each.

551
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 3: Other and long story, shot like my age was, like,

552
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 3: well he doesn't really want to play the, five so

553
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 3: we don't think that this is going to be a good.

554
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: Fit then that's when.

555
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 3: They were, like, okay well we kind of, like Uh banni,

556
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 3: anyway that was our first, choice But chris really Liked

557
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 3: la you, know same, city and they play well. Together

558
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 3: blah blah. Blah so THEN i was, like WELL i

559
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 3: don't really want to go. There so then that's WHEN

560
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 3: i ended, up you, know going going back To portland or,

561
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 3: whatever and then everything was.

562
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: Good but the process was easy for. Me.

563
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 3: Man it was just you, know as you, said, like

564
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 3: you ain't got nobody in that with, You so you

565
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 3: got to be in great, Shape you got to make your,

566
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 3: shots and you just got to show your skill.

567
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: Level if you go do that, stuff then you're.

568
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 4: Good how was it for you actually going when you

569
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 4: when it was trying to go to the, draft did

570
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 4: you take all of your fam and it was In New?

571
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 5: York?

572
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, MAN i was. Excited, yeah we.

573
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 4: Like, shaking shaking the commissioner. Hand how was all of?

574
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 3: That it was cool, man you, know being from where we're,

575
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 3: from like to go from you know What i'm saying

576
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 3: that to that stage is kind of you, know kind of,

577
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 3: surreal you know What i'm, Saying like, you, yeah you

578
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 3: work your ass off and you doing all the extra

579
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 3: lifts and shots whatever whatever put that. Moment so then

580
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 3: when it really, happens it's, like, man like this ship's really.

581
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 3: HERE i wasn't really nervous in the draft room because

582
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 3: my agent aren't tell. Him he called me like two

583
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 3: hours quarter draft and he was, like are you going number?

584
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 3: Two The bulls are gonna get you and they're gonna

585
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 3: trade you down To. Portland so WHEN i was actually

586
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 3: at the, TABLE i was very like, calm very, confident

587
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,239
Speaker 3: you know What i'm, saying because like that she can,

588
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 3: be you know What i'm, saying kind of stressful if

589
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 3: you're supposed to go to and you start going down

590
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 3: to three and four And i'm, like oh. Yeah SO

591
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 3: i wasn't there very. Long and then that's when my

592
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 3: agent kind of gave me the idea like once you

593
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 3: do something, different AND i was, like uh like what

594
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 3: he just, like would just do? Something so THEN i

595
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 3: put The texas hat behind my back and that was

596
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 3: the first time That David stern had put on a

597
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 3: college hat AND i had on My nbia. Hat that

598
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 3: was the first time he had done. That he put

599
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 3: the hat on for three seconds for. Me idn't didn't you,

600
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 3: know he had took it. Off BUT i just wanted

601
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 3: to try to.

602
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: Do, something you, know to show homage different or. Whatever.

603
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 2: WELL i feel like The blazers won the draft that

604
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 2: year with you and B. Roy how was it coming

605
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 2: in with B roy and coming to The blazers and

606
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 2: coming To poland BECAUSE i know you probably ain't never

607
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: been To poland.

608
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 1: To day in your. Life, yeah it was. THAT i liked.

609
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: It it was.

610
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 3: COOL i THINK i had heard, stories you, know being

611
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 3: Where i'm. FROM i wasn't worried about the, stories but

612
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 3: it was LIKE i heard a bunch of stories that

613
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 3: were like Jail blazers and this and that Where i'm,

614
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 3: LIKE i can't working Where i'm, from but it was

615
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 3: JUST i wanted to see it from you, know see it.

616
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 1: Yourself you, KNOW i get.

617
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 3: There you, know, man it's green as, fuck like trees

618
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: Everywhere i'm From, Texas like everything is flat and it's,

619
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 3: there and they should just hit the.

620
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: Mountains, yeah you, know raining every day every, day.

621
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 3: Man like that or something rain coming from the.

622
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: Side.

623
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 3: Right it was, cool LIKE i got there and then you,

624
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 3: KNOW i kind of feel like they embraced me a

625
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: little bit right, away not as much as Be, roy

626
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 3: SO i had to kind of earn.

627
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: Mine BUT i.

628
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 3: Think it was cool for me to see like the

629
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,479
Speaker 3: vets and THEN i was around you and And. Zebo

630
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 3: it was for me it was just funny sometimes like

631
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 3: you y'all would be just being, y'all but y'all would get. Crucified,

632
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 3: man it was Like i'm laughing because it would be

633
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 3: like you was, like, MAN i get in trouble just

634
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 3: Because i'm Around zebo SOMETIMES i don't.

635
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: Even know.

636
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: That's.

637
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: Right you know, that don't? You?

638
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: LIKE i feel like you didn't get embraced right away

639
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: like B, roy BECAUSE i feel like when you came,

640
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 2: in you was definitely ready to. Start you was ready

641
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: to play right. Away you just had a guy that

642
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 2: averaged twenty and ten in front of.

643
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: Him you know What i'm.

644
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 2: Saying B roy didn't have. That we didn't have no

645
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 2: wing guys that B roy had to come. BEHIND i

646
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: think it just slowed your place. Down BUT i thought

647
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: they were very excited about what you was. Doing it

648
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 2: was just Z bo's averaging twenty and, ten and it

649
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: was hard to kind of get the. ROLL i used

650
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 2: to love when they actually played y'all together sometimes BECAUSE

651
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: i felt it was better because he was left. HANDED

652
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 2: i felt y'all fit fit, together like how we when

653
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 2: we used to have sheet like so both y'all liked

654
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: the opposite. Blocks, anyway so we could have go go

655
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: back and. Forth you played, great you played, good you

656
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: just didn't have enough minutes to watch B roy Win

657
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: rookie of The year and do so. Well how much

658
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: did that motivate you the next, year because the next

659
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 2: year you came in even.

660
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: Better, man it like a lit a fire BECAUSE i was,

661
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 3: LIKE i wasn't, JEALOUS i wasn't. ENVIOUS i was like, Competitive.

662
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 2: No, NEVER i want to want to shine with.

663
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 3: HIM i want to grow up with. HIM i want

664
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 3: the opportunity with. Him so for, me it was, like,

665
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 3: WELL i gotta go work with my ass off even

666
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 3: more SO i can prove to the ORGANIZATION i can

667
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 3: be with. Him So coach k was The Caleb canal

668
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 3: as he was there for. Me so every TIME i didn't,

669
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 3: Play i'd be, like, hey don't go home after the.

670
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 3: Game tell him to lead the lights on the, court

671
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 3: And i'm gonna get on the. Court i'm gonna, Shoot

672
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 3: so go the whole GAME i didn't, PLAY i would

673
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 3: stay after the game AND i would shoot on the

674
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 3: court BECAUSE i was, like IF i ever get my,

675
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 3: OPPORTUNITY i want to make Sure i'm confident to play

676
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 3: on the. FLOOR i don't want to be confident to

677
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 3: be in. PRACTICE i want to be on the. Floor

678
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: so every GAME i, DIDN'T i would stay after AND

679
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 3: i would shoot three four hundred.

680
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: Shots on the.

681
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: Floor so it's, like ONCE i get my, Opportunity i'm

682
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 3: gonna be and work so hard on this. Floor i'm

683
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: gonna be confident to. Play so it was cool to

684
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,719
Speaker 3: see be or shining so quick because it was it

685
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 3: was so easy for, him like like the motherfucker was it.

686
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: Was he didn't do nothing. WRONG i couldn't believe.

687
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: It, yeah like a shoot the, three get to the,

688
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 3: rim got the med he had to. CROSS i was

689
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 3: just LIKE i know why he, was you, know like

690
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 3: moving so, quickly that. Talented so for, me it was

691
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 3: like how DO i get to WHERE i can shine

692
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: with him and like play with? Him AND i feel

693
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: like Z, bo you, know you never want anybody to get.

694
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: Hurt but When zebo had broke his, HAND i got my.

695
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 3: Opportunity that's when all Those knights are staying and shooting

696
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 3: on the. Court after the game plaid off because like

697
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: as soon AS i got my, OPPORTUNITY i was ready to.

698
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 2: Go yeah, yeah B, ROY i was looking at. IT

699
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: i was, like, wait till we play D. Wade, wait

700
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: we PLAYED covid and then he played them and did

701
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: the same. SHIT i was, like oh, shit we got.

702
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: One. YEAH i love what you just.

703
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 4: Said, Man that's that's something that these, kids these young

704
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 4: kids should pay attention to and need to hear from

705
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 4: guys like.

706
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: You seven Time all, started five time ALL.

707
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 4: Nba, Dude like when you was young and not getting

708
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 4: a chance to, play you wasn't throwing pity party for.

709
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 4: Yourself you wasn't going to the club and just wilding

710
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 4: out and just like partying in a, way.

711
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: Staying pulling all that shit down.

712
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: There, man you could you ain't got all that, Though.

713
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 4: Black all you gotta do is have a bottle and

714
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 4: some homeboys and you, good like you know What i'm. Saying,

715
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 4: like so so for you to stay locked in and say,

716
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 4: no grab a coach and Say i'm gonna get out

717
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 4: here and be prepared so when my time do, Come

718
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 4: I'm i'm gonna own that. Moment and for you to

719
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 4: be you know What i'm, saying be able to see

720
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 4: the results from all of those nights and then when

721
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 4: you got your, opportunity you took that. Moment so like,

722
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 4: dudes need to hear that, man because everybody ain't out

723
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 4: here wired that way and knowing like some PEOPLE i

724
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 4: know WHEN i was young like, THAT i would get.

725
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 4: Frustrated we wasn't going to the gym right. Away in two,

726
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 4: thousand we didn't have access to a gym to go

727
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 4: to with the, clippers so it wasn't none of. That

728
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 4: so you know What i'm, saying, like we need those

729
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 4: stories of guys like you that really made your impact

730
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 4: to know, like, hey it wasn't sweet for me in the.

731
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 4: BEGINNING i didn't start out like this getting to, be you,

732
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 4: know the guy getting all the. Minutes but look WHAT i,

733
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 4: did so my time did. COME i was on that shit.

734
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: Here, no you're, right and like that's WHAT i always

735
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 3: try to tell that, story AND i always try to,

736
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 3: say like you the guy that's in front of you

737
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: to get. BETTER i tell everybody that Z bo busts

738
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 3: my ass at, first BUT i didn't run from. IT

739
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: i didn't get, Scared LIKE i embraced that ship and

740
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 3: him buzzing my ass made me better BECAUSE i start.

741
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: To go back and manage you so much.

742
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: Better, yeah tell, me how did you feel when the

743
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: organization committed to, you they trade z bra off and

744
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: like you were next in, line so they committed to

745
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: you being the one two punch with B royd to

746
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: move the organization to another, level back to his glory

747
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: days and making the playoffs and doing everything that they was.

748
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 3: Doing, nah they got rid of the jail blazers, Finally,

749
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 3: yeah you're, Right i'm just Playing no, man it was

750
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 3: for me as as y'all said As, qai like all

751
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 3: those nights and going back to the gym to play the,

752
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 3: Night i'm gonna get some work, in you know What i'm,

753
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: Saying like hitting the way room, harder like all those

754
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: nights paid. Off when Like nate hit. Me he hit

755
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: me on the. Cell he was, like, hey what you're.

756
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: DOING i was like, nothing you, know it's like summertime or.

757
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 3: Whatever he was, like, hey with the draft tomorrow and

758
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: we think we want to trade Ze bo and make

759
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: you are Starring Power.

760
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: Forward he's, like do you want? THAT i was, like

761
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: what the you? Know, YEAH i want.

762
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 3: That he's LIKE i was, Like i've been ready for.

763
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 3: It so then hung up the phone. UP i caught

764
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: my mom like, MAN i started telling everything or whatever.

765
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 3: Whatever so for, me that moment of, LIKE i THINK

766
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: i showed them like even THOUGH i wasn't playing and

767
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 3: you SAID i, DIDN'T i didn't. POWER i didn't have

768
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: a pity. PARTY i didn't say fuck, THIS i didn't

769
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 3: go the wrong. WAY i kept. PUSHING i feel like

770
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: that showed, them, like you know, what we can believe in.

771
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: Him so when it gave me my, OPPORTUNITY i was

772
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 3: ready to. Go but, nah, man it felt good because

773
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 3: it felt like all the THINGS i did before that

774
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: were kind of paying off for.

775
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: Me you know What i'm.

776
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: Saying, yeah, Yeah, nah you definitely worked your way to.

777
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: It you earned everything that they gave, you and so

778
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: forth on to her during that draft or her you

779
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: Getting Greg oldham to come, Here LIKE i have conversation

780
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: with guys And i'd be, like, man if he was,

781
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: healthy it would have been a. Problem Like i'm talking,

782
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: about LIKE i never seen a big dude just move left,

783
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: hand right. Hand he clogged the. Lane he can do.

784
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 2: Everything if he would have got a chance to, play

785
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: they would have really seen how Good Greg oldham.

786
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: Is AND i tell them to the DAY kd IS.

787
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: Kd don't get me, wrong But Greg olden should have

788
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: been the number one pick because when we see when

789
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: he came in and we say the shit he was,

790
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: doing it was, like what the fuck is?

791
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: THIS i always say everyone.

792
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: Knows it's always easier to Say katy should have been number,

793
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 3: one obviously because he's so freakingly talented far as it's

794
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 3: my real ability to. Height but how often does a

795
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 3: guy like Greg o and come around where he got

796
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 3: hurt in college and played the whole season left handed

797
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: and made free throws like this is a very talented

798
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 3: individual that could run, fast was, athletic could score amazing

799
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 3: defense for a big LIKE i watched him block everything

800
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 3: in the. Lane so it's like it's hard to look

801
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 3: past how good he. Was and WHEN i heard it

802
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 3: we were getting, HIM i was, like oh, man because

803
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 3: then that made SURE i was going back to my

804
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: natural position at the power forward And i'm gonna have

805
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: this dumbinant motherfucker next to, Me so then, Like i'm

806
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: gonna be getting easier shots because he's so dumbinant that

807
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 3: they gonna forget about.

808
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: Me so then that's how it.

809
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 3: Went he would be dugging on motherfuckers over and over,

810
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 3: again and they forget about, me And i'll be getting

811
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: wide open jump. Shots lay up because he was that.

812
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 3: Good SO i agree with you if he never got. Hurt,

813
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 3: man like we definitely makes him noise and like make

814
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: a good run with him because he was that. Good

815
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: LIKE i, remember like we went it was funny man

816
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 3: back in the, day y'all mean, Man like he played

817
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 3: against y'all the first, TIME i think In. PORTLAND i

818
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 3: think he played. Well, yeah he played. Well so then

819
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 3: we went To houston the next.

820
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: Time y'all was, like, ONE i.

821
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 3: Had never seen y'all so aggressive in my, life and

822
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: like he's usually like the, biggest nicest, guy but he

823
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: will bust your, ass but he never. Was he like

824
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 3: hit Hit greg with a. Shoulder he had spent. All

825
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 3: we dunked that bitch and he, said, AH i, said,

826
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 3: OH i ain't never seen him yet, Before like, yeah

827
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 3: he felt Like greg was that good to push him

828
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: to make, sure you know What i'm, Saying like he

829
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: wanted to make Sure greg you're, good.

830
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: But i'm still. Him so like that's how Good greg.

831
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 3: Was he made motherfuckers play better because they wanted to

832
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 3: make sure he didn't take their name from. Him so

833
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 3: like y'all came with it and he Buzzed greg. Ass

834
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 3: but But greg made him be ready for that.

835
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: Though, yeah Because greg was was fucking. Ready LIKE i,

836
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 2: said play one on one with him top of the

837
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: key and you playing one on one a, center you expected.

838
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: Him he don't supposed to move like.

839
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: That, Man this motherfucker was moving like like he moved.

840
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: Through i'm, like, man, nah this's. Crazy it's. Different how

841
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: you gonna play a center like one on one like

842
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 2: this from the perimeter he had to.

843
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 3: Handle he moved crazy good to be so?

844
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: Big it was.

845
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 4: Crazy, yeah while you was, there you, know like y'all had,

846
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 4: crazy crazy injuries and crazy luck with, Injury like did

847
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 4: you ever be feeling like walking around? Scared, like, man

848
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 4: DO i need? Me and lucky you have his foot

849
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 4: like y'all was Getting joe Princon bella towards a cl

850
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 4: in the, shower like y'all was getting crazy crazy, Injuries

851
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 4: like did you ever feel like you was lucky to

852
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 4: not you, know really had nothing crazy happening to.

853
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: You we had a.

854
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: Thing, yeah ACTUALLY i did think about it a, Lot

855
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 3: and we had a thing that every, trainer every coach

856
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 3: knew and then even the announcer. Knew they could never

857
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 3: call me a center because every center had gotten hurt that,

858
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 3: year even the backup centers would Get it was crazy

859
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 3: everyone got hurt that came in at, center even when

860
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 3: even WHEN i went to, center like during the, games

861
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 3: LIKE i, started they would be like at power, forward

862
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: at power, forward like they never would call me center

863
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 3: because we felt.

864
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: Like they had to keep the. Mojo that stigm was.

865
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 3: So like weird and like we felt so cursed that

866
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: it was like anybody that's at center gets, hurt so

867
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 3: like they never put like they never would SAY i

868
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 3: was at, center like they would say a guard was at,

869
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 3: center and like put me at.

870
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: Wing but like it. Was it was that scary that

871
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: year for, sure that was around the.

872
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 4: League we was looking like bro like and then to

873
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 4: see like Big Chris bella did it in a, Shout

874
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 4: we was, like, yo they got, Issues like can nobody

875
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 4: over there stay?

876
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: Up like it was crazy.

877
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: Curse it was a curse.

878
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: Around, yeah the Jail, blazers that. Curse.

879
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 4: Man, Hey that's WHY i wanted to know what was

880
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 4: you thinking when you first got to that team and

881
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 4: you got to the car.

882
00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: Show did you when you saw they?

883
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 4: Calls BECAUSE i remember, like how y'all little ramps and

884
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 4: you come, down AND i just remember WHEN i we

885
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 4: used to come D miles got the, spaceship Z bow got.

886
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: THIS i was, like what did you think when you got? There, like, oh,

887
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: okay this is we're.

888
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: Doing.

889
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 3: Huh i'm a car, guy so like right AWAY i

890
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: Saw themails had The mayback all blacked out on twenty,

891
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: three twenty bos whatever it. Was and then you go

892
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 3: ahead and make like The, phantom like you had The phantom. Too, yeah,

893
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 3: yeah they call.

894
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 4: Crazy The phantom had everything with both boy, houses, man

895
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 4: like they both had like expensive cars just outside in.

896
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: The rain and the.

897
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 3: Snow you go to The miles and got his fanom

898
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 3: outside Fucking mayback.

899
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: Outside i'm, like, bro you're GONNA i have.

900
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: ENOUGH i have enough garage space to put them all

901
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: a little bit.

902
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: There to Z Bo.

903
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 3: House that's the same thing With times. Ten he Got

904
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: Biley coops on flat outside brand.

905
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: New, Like i'm, like.

906
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 3: He had so much money, man he was JUST i was, like,

907
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: man this is what it is like when you got this.

908
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: Money.

909
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: Man tell us about your First All Star game when

910
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 2: they first announced you made The All Star, Game and

911
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 2: tell us about when you walked in that locker room

912
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 2: and seeing the rest of The All stars and seeing

913
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: your jersey like all. Alights So i'm coming into my.

914
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: Own this was my First All star? Game how was

915
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: that for?

916
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: You it's special for me BECAUSE i should have made

917
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 3: the year.

918
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,959
Speaker 1: Before but that's. That Kevin love had that thirty, game

919
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: forty thirty. GAME i don't know he.

920
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: Was, yeah he was getting twenty rebounds a. Game it

921
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: was getting.

922
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: Crazy, yeah so they didn't win some, games but his

923
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 3: stats were.

924
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: Stupid so then he got in over. Me but that was.

925
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 3: THAT i Led portland TO i think the playoffs are

926
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 3: right to like right at the. Playoff SO i was

927
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: mad BECAUSE i was, like, Well i'm not here doing

928
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 3: this ship, Right i'm leaving my, team you know What

929
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: i'm saying to win it And i'm putting up.

930
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: Winner, yeah and that bothered.

931
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: Me so then the next YEAR i made that and

932
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 3: THEN i walked in the locker room and it was

933
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: like dam AND i was, like you should have been.

934
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 3: Here AND i feel like for me to have the

935
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 3: ogs Like stampy right, away like you should have been

936
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: here last. Year like and Then dirt's been Like dirt's

937
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: been really cool Because i'm From dallas AND i would

938
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 3: always come, HOME i Like dirk AND tm was like

939
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 3: when you should have been? Here and Even coach, said,

940
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: LIKE i feel like having those guys stamped me was,

941
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 3: like you know what if the if the og see,

942
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 3: it that mean THAT i should have been here.

943
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: Last, YEAR i, Think and that was kind of a

944
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: good moment for, me you know What i'm.

945
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: Saying, yeah ain't it crazy to See? Duncan you walk

946
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: in the locker, room It's, Duncan, Kobe Dirk dirt probably

947
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: well who Is Steve? Nash Was Steve? Nash and that, yeah, BRO.

948
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: I said in the Corner AND i didn't even.

949
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 3: TALK i was just looking around like.

950
00:40:55,200 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: The ship to. THEM i just.

951
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 2: You just follow them when everybody live out the locker

952
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 2: room and following.

953
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 3: Out cool cool, Cool like, Y'all i'm in here with

954
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 3: all these famous like this is.

955
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: Crazy it, was but they. Were but when you.

956
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 3: Walk in the, room like it's a little, intimidating like

957
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: you know What i'm.

958
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 1: Saying for your first, one.

959
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, first but in her second one it gets. Easier

960
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 3: but the first one was, like, Man i'm finally here

961
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: with all the.

962
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: Ogs now you're making all NBA's you're Making All Star.

963
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 2: Game how do does it feel too for your peers

964
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 2: to APPRECIATE i know you playing For portland and you

965
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: know they weren't winning too many, well they was winning

966
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: game making the, playoffs and but you're getting knocked out first,

967
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: round maybe second, round and just being In portland and

968
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: not really being a championship, pretender but being a good.

969
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 2: Team for your peers to appreciate what you brought to the.

970
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: Table because B roy goes, out you kind of left

971
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: us the Last mohican of that squad when you first

972
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: came in and you holded it. Down but your peers appreciate.

973
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: You they gave you ALL, nba they was counting you

974
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: For All star saying that you're arguably be the best

975
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: power forward in the. League how did that feel for

976
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: you for your peers to appreciate what you brought to

977
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: the table being playing For?

978
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: Portland Nah, man that that was dope to me because

979
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 3: it was, like you, know you get it on, fans

980
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 3: BUT i don't really go. Out i'm not no flash of.

981
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 3: GUY i ain't gonna be posting On. Instagram you know

982
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 3: What i'm. Saying i'm an introvert type. Guy so it

983
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 3: was Like i'm never going to get the, fan But

984
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 3: i'm not going to be emails doing the windmil and

985
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: hit my head like you know.

986
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: What i'm, SAYING.

987
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna really keep flashing enough for the fans

988
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 3: to follow me like. That so for, me it was

989
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: like it was like having my peers be, like you

990
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: know what this my bucker was solid the, shuit he

991
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 3: should be in the. GAME i feel like always took

992
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 3: value in that because it was, like these are the

993
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: guys and going up against these are the guys that

994
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: got to scheme against.

995
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: Me these you know What i'm, saying these motherfuckers just

996
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: double tell.

997
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 3: Me but then to feel Like i'm that much of

998
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 3: a problem to you, know like put me in the,

999
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 3: game like these coaches are feeling. That so for, me

1000
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 3: it was more respect for me getting in HOW i got,

1001
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 3: in just BECAUSE i felt, like those are the guys

1002
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 3: that you're actually staying on the, floor those are the

1003
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 3: guys that's actually having the coach against. You so for

1004
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: them to be, like you know when you're In All star,

1005
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: like it meant more to me because you know What i'm, saying,

1006
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 3: like those are the ones that's actually in the. Game

1007
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 3: so for me being In portland and you, know not

1008
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 3: really being a big personality and still making an off

1009
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 3: star game like that that was REALLY. Nba, yeah like

1010
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 3: that was a step for me that my body of

1011
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 3: work was starting to get. Better and then all my

1012
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 3: TIME i was putting in was paying off because all

1013
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: my family, said, yo when you play ON t N

1014
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 3: t and that game coined nine. Eleven, HERE i wasn't

1015
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 3: watching your, game so she wasn't even watching, me you

1016
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: know What i'm. Saying so still get in with dope.

1017
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: For me for.

1018
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: Sure tell us about you got the opportunity to play

1019
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 2: with two rookie other, years you got a chance to

1020
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 2: Watch Brandon.

1021
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: Roy then y'all Draft.

1022
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 2: Damon what was your first impression Of Damon lillard when

1023
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: he came to the Team.

1024
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: Very, confident like very, confident VERY i felt like he

1025
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: was very, experienced but he wasn't like he hadn't been,

1026
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 3: There BUT i feel like he was so ready to

1027
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: learn and he was so poised that it seemed like

1028
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: he was older than what he.

1029
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: Was so you, know we all have growing.

1030
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: Pains so it was, LIKE i think when you put

1031
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 3: the time in like he did and like he, does

1032
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: and that's probably when you you, know you carry yourself more.

1033
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: Confident but not right. AWAY i knew he was special,

1034
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 3: Man like he wasn't shooting as far as he shoots out,

1035
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 3: now but he. Was he was still shooting a bag

1036
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 3: from far so and he was shooting with and he

1037
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 3: was making. This SO i think to see how smart

1038
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: he was and how he understood the, game and then

1039
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 3: how he helped make my life easier far as playing,

1040
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 3: together LIKE i was all, night he gonna be. Good

1041
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: so that first, year you, know he had some growing,

1042
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 3: pains BUT i never said nothing to him Because i'm,

1043
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 3: like as soon as he figured this shit, out then

1044
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 3: we're gonna be back on track and we're gonna be

1045
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: back winning The so that first, year you know he

1046
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: was figuring it, OUT i didn't say. Nothing you could

1047
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: see that he was learning more and more every, game

1048
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 3: every you, know every, month and he was start like

1049
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: taking us big. Jumps and then another guy that kind

1050
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 3: of went out of With kobe a little bit when

1051
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 3: he was young and had a big, game and Then

1052
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 3: covid kind of stamped him like he up next. Too

1053
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 3: so it Was i've seen it happen, twice like B

1054
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 3: roight went With, kobe And kobe is, like, well he

1055
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 3: got no. Weakness he went right to the rim When

1056
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: kobe stamped him with, that he ain't got no. Weakness

1057
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: and that's when everybody started to Watch root more because

1058
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 3: when you have a og like that stamp you than

1059
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 3: every want to see it. Else The dame had his

1060
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 3: game Against la where he was just killing, him like

1061
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 3: getting to the, rim making the right, pass looking down the.

1062
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: Three but he played a perfect game and we. Won

1063
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: and THEN i think.

1064
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 3: That's When kobe was on a loser streak against, us

1065
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 3: like like like a four or five losing streak In,

1066
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 3: Portland so he came out gunning like right, away like three,

1067
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 3: three like he was just taking to. Win in the

1068
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 3: fact That dan was able to outdool him in that,

1069
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 3: game he Stamped. Dame So i've seen two guys got

1070
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 3: with you, know one of the goats for, me and

1071
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 3: THEN i saw them hold their on and like they got.

1072
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: The respected you know What i'm, saying like that they.

1073
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: Deserved what are two things from because LIKE i, said

1074
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: both on one rookie, year what is two things that

1075
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 2: you've seen they were, similar like the two things that

1076
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: made them that they was different and they and they

1077
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: rookie year that they came out and Run rookie of The.

1078
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 3: Year oh, SIMILAR i think similar b they both knew

1079
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 3: that they had put the time, in and they both

1080
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: came in very, Confident like B roy came in like

1081
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 3: who he's been, here dick out playing in front of,

1082
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 3: him LIKE i don't know who who is in front of?

1083
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: Him when he like WHEN i don't even remember he

1084
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: came right, know.

1085
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 3: No, shame but he came in like Now i'm about

1086
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 3: to take over. This and THEN i think they both

1087
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 3: came in. CONFIDENCE i remember even B roy And zebo had.

1088
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: Some words one, time and THEN i remember THAT i

1089
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 2: Love zebo snapped on, teams stapped on the, team and

1090
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: B roy checked him like.

1091
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 3: This shit, Too AND i feel like they SO i

1092
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 3: feel like they both had the confidence of LIKE i

1093
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 3: belong here AND i can do. THIS i think the

1094
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 3: difference and then would probably be Me like the opposite

1095
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 3: one is, health Like dame's been more, healthy you, know

1096
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 3: like able to do with his, body able to train

1097
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 3: more off like B roy knew his knees weren't the,

1098
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 3: best so he couldn't really go after the train like.

1099
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 3: That so he was kind of smart with the things

1100
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 3: he did off the court or. Healthy So dang would

1101
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 3: turn that ship up every summer and get better and get.

1102
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 3: BETTER i think that was the biggest, difference is Like

1103
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 3: dame was ever able to keep longevity of getting better and.

1104
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 3: Better AND i feel like b roy knew his lifeeshef

1105
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 3: is going to be, limited so he wanted to try

1106
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 3: to be smart with. That.

1107
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: Yeah twenty, fourteen twenty, fifteen you Made ALL Nba Second,

1108
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: team you finished seventh AND mvp. Voting but one of

1109
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: them special things that me AND q had the opportunity of,

1110
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 2: doing you you got signed The jordan.

1111
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: Brand how was that for?

1112
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 2: You for you, know one of your favorite players ever

1113
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 2: to be had the opportunity to wear his shoes and

1114
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: be a part of the.

1115
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 3: Brand, man there was a fight to even get there

1116
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 3: because now you didn't want to let me. Go SO

1117
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 3: i had an offer from A chinese company AND i

1118
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 3: had to leverage that to get To Jordan brand about

1119
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 3: to make sure that he actually wanted.

1120
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: Me And Larry miller is one of my closest. Friends, like,

1121
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 1: YEAH i actually got His portland.

1122
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: Native, yeah look on my, desk, Man like that's my. Guy,

1123
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: yeah shout out To Larry Miller, man that's the guy,

1124
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: cool one of the coolest guys.

1125
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: Ever man got your, back so he he hear. Me

1126
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:00,959
Speaker 1: he was, like, YEAH mj wants.

1127
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 3: You we got to kind of figure out how to

1128
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 3: make it happen because The nikes tied the guys leaving and.

1129
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: Coming to this.

1130
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 3: Side so, ANYWAY i, leveraged you, know the Little china,

1131
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 3: contract got, there and then my. Shoe this is the

1132
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 3: probably the, best like one of the best parts is

1133
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 3: when you first get, there you gotta like get your,

1134
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 3: shoes get your logo so you can wear whatever you

1135
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 3: want for the first you, know two three.

1136
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 1: Months So i'm retro every retro.

1137
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 4: Thirteen mister retro thirteen right. Here this is mister retro, thirteen,

1138
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 4: red black and white right. Here you, know you know

1139
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 4: he got game.

1140
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 3: CHOICES i remember that that was your shoe because everybody

1141
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 3: everybody got mad at BECAUSE i was wearing. Them and

1142
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 3: Then larry was, like can you wear something else that's

1143
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 3: like not so, Popular.

1144
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: You wouldn't wear.

1145
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 3: Nothing everybody everybody was like walking he wear and then

1146
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 3: like M j kept, saying like his shoe isn't. Ready his,

1147
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 3: Shoes SO i was wearing all the shoes everybody.

1148
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: Wanted to wear and then like they couldn't wear.

1149
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 3: It but, nah, man it's it's an honor my, brotherhood you,

1150
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 3: know like they take care of, you as y'all, know

1151
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 3: more than you could ever imagine this boxes on boxes

1152
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 3: at your door.

1153
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: And boxes on.

1154
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: Boxing you open the, door it's, full big old boxes right.

1155
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 3: There as soon as you get those out of the,

1156
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 3: way it's. More AND i remember When Juwan howard came

1157
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 3: to the.

1158
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: TEAM i went to his. HOUSE i was still.

1159
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 3: KNOCKING I i was, like, bro why you got all

1160
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 3: These jordan boxes just sitting at your. Door he was,

1161
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 3: LIKE i got too much. SHIT i was, LIKE i

1162
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 3: would never have too Much george, stuff AND i signed When,

1163
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 3: JORDAN i was, LIKE i got too Much george, shit like.

1164
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: You, know. Unpacking so you explaining it right now AND

1165
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: i already. Know so how did you come? Up? Then

1166
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: i'm gonna build me a mini.

1167
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 4: House for my, shoes, Man like we, all we all

1168
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 4: would like to just build a mini, house but the

1169
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 4: real for most of, us they just in the sun

1170
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 4: in the living, room something in that, closet something over.

1171
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: There but like you came up with the perfect.

1172
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 4: Plan tell me how you came up and executed building

1173
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 4: a mini house strictly for.

1174
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 3: Just because you, know, man like you're getting so many

1175
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 3: and you're getting like the exclusive, stuff like The christmas

1176
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 3: ones we, get you, know like you get some stuff

1177
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 3: that ain't really ever out.

1178
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: There it'd be, like you, know, Yeah christmas, joint The

1179
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: christmas gift never comes. Out that's just. Fun.

1180
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 3: Yeah SO i was, like, man as a shoe, GUY

1181
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 3: i love, Shoes i'm, like how dope would it be

1182
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 3: to have a display of all these jays Of LIKE

1183
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 3: i go outside in my backyard like a little you,

1184
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 3: know like a little guest, house but it's all. J's i'm,

1185
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 3: like that would make, me you know What i'm, saying

1186
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 3: me appreciate all these. More i'm, Like i'm not gonna

1187
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 3: wear some of these, Shoes, like let's put them on.

1188
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 3: Display shoeheads who love, shoes, like look at.

1189
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: This so then that YEAR i had to build my.

1190
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 3: HOUSE i had some, land SO i was, LIKE i

1191
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 3: got a nice little corner behind my, house, like let's

1192
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 3: just throw it. There so it's like the ONES i

1193
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 3: KNOW i ain't gonna, WEAR i ain't gonna. TOUCH i

1194
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 3: want to keep them. Nice let's put them on. Display

1195
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 3: because you get some, heat, man and it'd be a

1196
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 3: lot of as you, know do a. Lot so it's

1197
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 3: like something can be in the house That i'm actually

1198
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 3: gonna wear, it like the ONES i KNOW i ain't gonna.

1199
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: Touch like let's put him out back and like put

1200
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: him on. Display, yeah that's much better than my. SOLUTION

1201
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: i got shoes and.

1202
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 4: STORAGE i got shoes at my sister, house at my

1203
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 4: daddy house and my best friend.

1204
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: House you, know So, mark that's why he nun punishment

1205
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 2: all the. Time the wife would be on his ass

1206
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: about all them goddamn Sho.

1207
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: You know how we be.

1208
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 4: Smiling you see the box and there he'd be. SMILING

1209
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 4: i turned with my wife like where's? Going where's that gonna?

1210
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 2: Go he be calling me he let me borrow the.

1211
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 2: TRUCK i, Said, BRO i ain't helping you with. Them

1212
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 2: got them, shoes but you're taking that ship to the

1213
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: store yourself.

1214
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: When it's all. Day this is, that this is the.

1215
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: Reality you just heard it right.

1216
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 4: Here he got.

1217
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: Big.

1218
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 4: Enough it was big enough probably when he first got,

1219
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 4: it and then like, boy once you get that thing filled. Up,

1220
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 4: Yeah like think about my old, house, bro when the

1221
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 4: garage WHERE i had the whole shoe, store like the

1222
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 4: set Up like after, that don't get filled.

1223
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: Up it's, like, okay on to the next, space whatever

1224
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: that's gonna.

1225
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 3: Be you try to go through and you try to be, Like,

1226
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 3: OKAY i won't work, these so let me try to

1227
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 3: get rid of, these like you, know like my cousin or.

1228
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: Whatever even after you do that.

1229
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 3: Exercise you still got so much shit that you just

1230
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 3: can't keep it out in your.

1231
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: House he do that ship? There you two you have

1232
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: To i'm, like where that's? Going they going to? Cousin see?

1233
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: IT i, say where that's. Going that's going to cousin.

1234
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: HOUND i, said, Okay so what the rest of this

1235
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 2: shit going?

1236
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: There? Oh this going to? Store you want to keep

1237
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 1: the heat no matter what you didn't get like the

1238
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: like the really good. Ship you didn't give that away

1239
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: no matter, what straight, up straight up tell me. This

1240
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: when it was time for you to Leave.

1241
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 2: Portland did sometimes when you see How dame AND cj

1242
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 2: played BECAUSE i always just felt like you was just

1243
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: a missing piece that they let. Go sometimes did you

1244
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 2: feel no disrespect To San? Antonio but sometimes did you

1245
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 2: feel LIKE i WISH i probably would have stayed and

1246
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 2: kind of waited for them guys to develop a little

1247
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: bit if they was gonna get to that, point or

1248
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 2: do you feel like they probably wouldn't have got to

1249
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 2: that point if you wouldn't.

1250
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 3: Have left for, Me like OBVIOUSLY i was like every

1251
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 3: now and THEN i was like, damn IF i was still,

1252
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 3: there it'd be dope to be rocking with them, Too

1253
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 3: and like now they're mature and they're at this level

1254
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 3: where we all can kind of domninate.

1255
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: Together but my opponent IS i THINK i would.

1256
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 3: Have stifled the growth a little bit BECAUSE i was

1257
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 3: so bald dumbinant WHEN i was. THERE i was me

1258
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 3: and Like damon AND i played well together and he

1259
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 3: got to get, off BUT i don't know LIKE cj

1260
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 3: would get. Off he would come, on comeing off the,

1261
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 3: bench and then he would get to his. Bag SO

1262
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 3: i don't know if it would have ever got to

1263
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 3: the peak together WITH cj being as good as he is.

1264
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: Now but of COURSE i did be like dang IF

1265
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: i was.

1266
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 3: Still there and they had me on the inside and

1267
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 3: they doing anything on the, Outside like, MAN i think

1268
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 3: you know What i'm.

1269
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: SAYING i think a.

1270
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 3: Crazy, run but also feel they are all grew ONCE

1271
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 3: i left because they had some growing, paints you know

1272
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 3: What i'm, Saying, like when you get, that when you

1273
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 3: get those.

1274
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: Growing, pains that's how you get better and.

1275
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 3: Better SO i feel like by me, leaving it opened

1276
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 3: up even more, room you, know open up.

1277
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: More room for. Them.

1278
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 2: YEAH i definitely IF i IN nba, history IF i

1279
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 2: ever had to trade somebody back or you was the

1280
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 2: ONE i wanted to go back To portland and play with.

1281
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: Them.

1282
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 2: GUYS i felt like you was the missing piece for

1283
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 2: them to get over the. Hump, yeah you know What i'm,

1284
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 2: saying to get over the. HUNT i do agree with.

1285
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 2: You how was it playing For? Pop you, Know pop

1286
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 2: one of the best coaches, Ever hall Of. Famer just

1287
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: The San antonio. Organization they always get raves about how

1288
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 2: professional and just how good an organization they, are and you,

1289
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 2: know people sleep on How San antonio. Is San antonio

1290
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 2: is a great place to live and, Be so just

1291
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 2: tell us About San antonio organization and playing for a

1292
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 2: coach Like.

1293
00:55:55,840 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 3: Pop, well one of the REASONS i chose to gotus

1294
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 3: In tonio because everything THAT i heard was like, family, family,

1295
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 3: family and anyone who know, Me i'm more of an introverted,

1296
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 3: family like, close like small group type. Guy so that

1297
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 3: intrigued me to be around people that were like minded

1298
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 3: of you, know you don't have to go do, this

1299
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 3: this and, this like just focused on. Basketball and so

1300
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 3: for me it felt like home right away because you

1301
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 3: Know pop gave You, yeah, YEAH i went home for.

1302
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 3: One but then like personality, wise it was a perfect

1303
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,720
Speaker 3: fit of like you know when you're on a younger

1304
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 3: team and like you're in a small market that hasn't

1305
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 3: worn rings like they. Have so then In, portland we

1306
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 3: had to do a lot of extra stuff to make

1307
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 3: sure to keep the fans, engaged the country. Engaged And

1308
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 3: i'm not really the do extra media type. GUY i

1309
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 3: was more of the like locked in on LIKE i

1310
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 3: want to be in the, GYM i want to watch fear,

1311
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 3: THEM i want to.

1312
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: Take care of my.

1313
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 3: Body so with, Me portland always felt like it was

1314
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 3: like pulling teeth to get me to do extra, media

1315
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 3: which it was because LIKE i feel like IF i

1316
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 3: go hoop on the, court that should take care of everything.

1317
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 3: Else SO i went To San antonio and that's exactly

1318
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 3: how they carried, themselves is like we don't have to

1319
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 3: do all the extra media as long as we, go

1320
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 3: take care of stuff on the court and go. In

1321
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 3: so it was like we had to do the recommended,

1322
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 3: media but it was nothing. Extra SO i was able

1323
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 3: to focus on like my recovery and like get more.

1324
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 3: Rest AND i feel LIKE i was like getting pulled

1325
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 3: to do this that it is so for. Me the

1326
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 3: organization was as everyone knows top notch take care of the,

1327
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 3: family you, know if your kids can fly on road,

1328
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 3: trips like they just make sure that you feel like

1329
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 3: it's a family and that everyone.

1330
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: Is taken care. Of SO i love.

1331
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 3: That and then playing For Pop man like one of

1332
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 3: the smartest minds, ever was a growing process for me

1333
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 3: because HOW i like to play that and how he

1334
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 3: saw me. Plan so it was like early on kind

1335
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 3: of had some bumping up the heads because it was

1336
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 3: just LIKE i can't maximize five Shots, Pop LIKE i.

1337
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: Just came From.

1338
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 3: PORTLAND i was getting thirty shots some nice like remember

1339
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 3: one NIGHT i got thirty three shots In. Houston i'm,

1340
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 3: like you want me to go from thirty three shots

1341
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 3: to five shots and like be cool with, That LIKE

1342
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 3: i don't know how to process that. Yet so it

1343
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 3: was more like to back and forth, conversations but you,

1344
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 3: know he's an amazing, coach very, Understanding like we worked

1345
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 3: that out and.

1346
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: Then once we got our, balance LIKE i loved.

1347
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 3: It, man he made the game so, simple so, easy

1348
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 3: and then LIKE i THINK i shot the highest percentage

1349
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 3: of my, career WHICH i always shot like fifty or,

1350
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 3: more AND i THINK i went above that there because

1351
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 3: it's so, simple so, smart and we use the players,

1352
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 3: like you, know to the strengths like.

1353
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: Me And kawhi had picked and Roll i'll be on the.

1354
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: Block like it was. Easy AND i.

1355
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 3: Wouldn't say THE nba was. EASY i was just like

1356
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 3: the way he executed things made it feel.

1357
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: Easy but it.

1358
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 3: Wasn't LIKE i look up that first, year we were

1359
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 3: like right Behind Golden. State that first, YEAR i think

1360
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 3: we were like thirty three and, two And i'm just,

1361
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 3: like how is this even? Possible like we're winning like twelve,

1362
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 3: games lose, one win fifteen, lose like halftime up by.

1363
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 3: Twenty it was just like a. Movie WHEN i first

1364
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 3: Got i'm, like is this how it feels? Here to

1365
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 3: be just up by week like this ain't this ain't normal?

1366
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 3: Life like it felt like. Weird so, YEAH i, think you,

1367
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 3: know it was an amazing. EXPERIENCE i loved that. ORGANIZATION

1368
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 3: i love the fans LIKE i enjoyed my time, there

1369
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 3: AND i grew a lot because A pop was the

1370
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 3: first coach that didn't really feel pressure for his job

1371
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 3: because he's because he was doing his. Job so we

1372
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 3: were going to fumer room and we would talk about

1373
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 3: like world, stuff like what's going on over. Here so

1374
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 3: it was like we had time to like focus on

1375
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 3: like growing our minds and trying to become men rather

1376
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 3: than just like we got our. PRACTICE i don't want

1377
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 3: to get fired. Today you, know you know you're right,

1378
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 3: out just run today BECAUSE i don't want to get.

1379
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 3: Fired so it's like it was nice to not have that.

1380
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 3: Coach it just has that pressure to prove he's doing.

1381
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: Something you know What i'm, Saying, nah that's no doubt.

1382
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 4: Possible was always low to the earth and like grounded

1383
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 4: with everything that was going. ON i love hearing him

1384
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 4: come out and speak about you, know issues and stuff like.

1385
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: That that's the best part AND i forgot that.

1386
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 3: Part the best part was having him fight for, us

1387
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 3: like getting get in the media and be, like, nah

1388
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 3: this is this is messed, up this is, racist AND

1389
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 3: i don't support, It like most coaches.

1390
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: Like the, rough they stay away from. It he come right.

1391
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: Out he come right, out straight to the.

1392
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 3: Point, yeah he come to us and he'd be, Like

1393
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 3: i'm going to say, this so y'all, cool you, know like,

1394
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 3: yeah go, ahead and he'll go in there and he'll

1395
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 3: go to town LIKE i don't think this is. Right

1396
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 3: like that made us feel like he had our back

1397
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,439
Speaker 3: because he wasn't afraid to speak on any.

1398
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 4: Issue AND i liked that he came to y'all and

1399
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 4: let y'all know and made so y'all was cool with.

1400
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 4: It so he went out there and went went off

1401
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 4: like that's, Dope like you.

1402
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 3: Won't be insult to that IF i have your back

1403
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 3: on this or that and. This like, now he's a

1404
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 3: very very smart and like understanding. MAN i think the

1405
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 3: on court persona it's what people, envisioned but off the

1406
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 3: court he's a totally different.

1407
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: Person talk about how dope it?

1408
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 4: Was like you a, guy you, know like you, say

1409
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 4: you From, Dallas, texas you've been you grew up watching

1410
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 4: The big fundamentally that's the first, dude like you say in,

1411
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 4: game but your, Ass like how was it to go

1412
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 4: from there to like now you playing alongside him all be.

1413
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 4: It he's like at the end of his career and

1414
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 4: he's not who he used to, be but he's Still Tim.

1415
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 4: Duncan and then just being able to like we know

1416
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 4: how it, Is like it's a difference to playing against

1417
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 4: people being sharing the league with. Him but then when

1418
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 4: you get on the team you get to see different.

1419
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 4: Things so like how was that for you to get

1420
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 4: the up closed version and get.

1421
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 6: To know you, Know Tim, Duncan, man it was it

1422
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 6: was better than better THAN i ever could imagine because you,

1423
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 6: know not speaking that on, anyone you be hearing, like oh,

1424
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 6: man this guy's a great, teammate but you be like

1425
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 6: in the back of your mind like he.

1426
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: Ain't that ain't.

1427
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 3: Nobody but you get there and it's, like, man he

1428
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 3: really is just, Cool like he really is this selfless

1429
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 3: like he really does care about, Winning like he only

1430
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 3: has one goal and that's like to make everybody. Better

1431
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 3: like you get there and you see. It you, like,

1432
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 3: man like the stories are really, True like this motherfucker

1433
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 3: is that?

1434
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: Nice you.

1435
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 3: Know, like so to play with him and to a

1436
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 3: struggle in the beginning of like trying to learn the

1437
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 3: system and how to get my shots and not get volume.

1438
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 3: Him he always had my. Back he was always in my,

1439
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 3: ear like to stick with, it, like you, know like

1440
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 3: we're gonna figure it. Out like to play with someone

1441
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 3: that's so selfless and that just cares about winning so.

1442
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 3: Much it was cool because you, know they always say,

1443
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 3: like don't meet your you, know because he's like my favorite,

1444
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 3: player him AND kg WHEN i was younger or like the,

1445
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 3: BIGS i try to like be you, know like like

1446
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 3: model my game After so to meet someone that was

1447
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 3: your favorite, player to play with them and then realize

1448
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 3: like they are that good of a, person it was

1449
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 3: kind of. Cool and then to have, him you, know

1450
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 3: support me along the way and then kind of pass

1451
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 3: me the torch a little bit was kind of.

1452
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: Cool obviously DIDN'T i didn't produce no rings like his.

1453
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 3: Ass BUT i try to keep you, know, us you,

1454
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 3: know like you, know winning and like going to the

1455
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 3: playoffs as long AS i, Could so to have his

1456
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 3: support in that was kind of nice.

1457
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 2: Too, yeah that's as you, see you got the ball.

1458
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 2: Here he used to Be Team wavy in the. League

1459
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 2: how did it feel to Be Team wavy BECAUSE i

1460
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: remember usual to be in the locker room and used

1461
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 2: to be brushing.

1462
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: Away it used to be.

1463
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: Three sixty In how was it to be team? Waves

1464
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 2: you used to Be but that's, long long. Gong what

1465
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 2: type of?

1466
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 4: Thing what just happened in here on this? Point what

1467
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 4: did you you ball haited? With it used to be team,

1468
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 4: braids long wave braids and all. That you ain't got

1469
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 4: no long hang, time but you gotta hang time on your.

1470
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 2: Beer we're not talking about. That we're talking about. Waves

1471
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 2: but thank.

1472
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: You it's not many of us, left but we're aging.

1473
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 3: Out and then now it's all about the sponge and the.

1474
01:03:53,880 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 3: Dreads AND i hate these. Kids they man like my

1475
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 3: oldest son. Kept, yeah my oldest son has. That he's

1476
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 3: been fifteen twenty minutes making it look. Unkept i'm, like you.

1477
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,959
Speaker 2: Can't you can't get the kids to braid they hurt

1478
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 2: regular or get. Ways i'm, like, man you gotta either

1479
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 2: have ways of.

1480
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 4: Braids my both of my boys got, ways both of

1481
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 4: them three sixty, Out they, spinning they.

1482
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: Spending his son got, ways SO i.

1483
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 3: TALKED i talked him into, it and now he's, hooked like.

1484
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: Keep keep him, in keeping in keeping. Waving, yeah the.

1485
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 2: POPS i was wavy out, there, MAN i got two

1486
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 2: of these for. You start bench, Trade, DUNCAN Kg. Dirk

1487
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 2: who do you?

1488
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: Start who do you? Bench who you? Trade? Yeah start bench?

1489
01:04:56,360 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: Trade he, SAID Kg dirt and ten. Him, Yeah.

1490
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna Start. TIM i, mean like the Rings. Gott

1491
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 3: you know What i'm, saying we're talking. About we're talking about,

1492
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 3: winning like that's. All i'll basic it off. Of he

1493
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 3: has the most rings out of the whole. Group So

1494
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 3: i'm An i'm gonna Start. Tam i'm a bench dirt

1495
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 3: because that's my guy the. Town and Then I'm Cherry's.

1496
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: Hard you're gonna trade k.

1497
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 3: Just.

1498
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: ASK i have like relationships with the other. Two So

1499
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: i'm kind of you know What i'm, saying like me

1500
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: and you gotta explain.

1501
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 2: YOURSELF i got another one for. YOU i got another

1502
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 2: one for, You Blake, Griffin chris bosh Or.

1503
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: Zebo who do you? Start who do you? Bench who you?

1504
01:05:49,640 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: Trade Blake Zebra chris THAT i have an. Opinion i'm

1505
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 1: gonna wait for his, Stuff, Chriz, like if you're going off,

1506
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: RINGS i got it going.

1507
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 2: On what's your coaching? Style what's your coaching? Style if

1508
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 2: you was the, coach will you Start ben's? Trade that's,

1509
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 2: had what you, got what you, Got i'm gonna, Say

1510
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 2: i'm gonna go with.

1511
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 4: You like if you're going off winning and, rings you

1512
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 4: gotta start bosh and then then come. Back Did blake

1513
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 4: get on with The? Celtics no he wasn't, there then

1514
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 4: no he. Wasn't then you probably. Go SO i would

1515
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 4: go bosh Z bo And. Blake, yeah you'll Trade.

1516
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: Blake. Yeah if you're going off rings and, winning that's

1517
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: that's your that's. Yours yeah By Zebo. Blake, yeah BECAUSE i.

1518
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 3: Mean Z bo is my, guy even though don't talk

1519
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 3: to him like. That no more like AS i told all.

1520
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: The stories you, got SO i gotta keep You zbo

1521
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: funny as. Hell you know what's? Up? Mad what's? That

1522
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: what you?

1523
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 4: MAD? I this is WHAT i want to know because

1524
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 4: you done got a nice couple of little you, know

1525
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 4: the little bags that you got a sign.

1526
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: To you, know you got, blood you, know eight fighters

1527
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: something like this question like.

1528
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 4: That we don't want them to hear. About you, know

1529
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,919
Speaker 4: all of us took care of. Mom dudes got? Mom

1530
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 4: do some you know a house or car? Whatever took

1531
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 4: care of the Faund.

1532
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: What did L a do you? Say you a car?

1533
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 4: Guy SO i feel like you didn't have some whips

1534
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 4: in your. Life what did you do when you got

1535
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 4: the bag that you might look at now it's a

1536
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 4: little more, adult like a little more grown where it's

1537
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 4: LIKE i ain't have to do, that but it felt

1538
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 4: damn good when you did. It and it might have even,

1539
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 4: been you, know not, necessary but it felt damn good

1540
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 4: when you did.

1541
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 2: It did you have an out of yr rookie?

1542
01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: Year, yeah the little. ONE i remember my guy Man

1543
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: oh that was about, say ain't no way you could

1544
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 1: send like he had that out of you know.

1545
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 3: PEOPLE i, MEAN i had bad role models IN Z

1546
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:19,600
Speaker 3: boy and D, mile SO i. WAS i bought some

1547
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 3: cars at the following.

1548
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: My first May back. Phantoms, yeah SO i.

1549
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 3: HAD i got The ferrari five nine nine AND i

1550
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 3: had the back seat regne WHERE i could fit in.

1551
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: It and THEN i got the May back and THEN

1552
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 1: i had one.

1553
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 3: MORE i can't remember the other, one but those are

1554
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 3: my two big spenders of, like you, know you go

1555
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 3: from like rookie deal to Like i'm gonna go spend

1556
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 3: two three hundred the CAR i had to make back

1557
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 3: and THEN i had The ferrari and so.

1558
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 4: You, went so you went the shack round where you

1559
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 4: got the how does that work when they reconfigure the

1560
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 4: seat and what they.

1561
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: Do they pushed some of the what they. Do so

1562
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 1: it was a wall behind the, seat SO i couldn't

1563
01:08:58,600 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: sit all the way the.

1564
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 3: Back SO i out the guy To california where he

1565
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 3: redid the wall to like the guy's tankers right. There

1566
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 3: so he went right up to the guy's tanking and

1567
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 3: he redid the whole wall and like we, did all

1568
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 3: the leather AND i.

1569
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 1: Could fit in.

1570
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 2: Them stretch that thing, Back, wow that thing?

1571
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:16,799
Speaker 1: Back, Okay.

1572
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 2: Okay tell us about when you heard you had an

1573
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 2: irregular heartbeat and like the process and how what the

1574
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 2: doctor said and you know how they had made you

1575
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 2: decide to take a break from hooping to figure out

1576
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 2: what was going on with your.

1577
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 1: Heartbeat the first TIME i found out was.

1578
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 3: Rookie, season towards the end WHEN i was, starting SO

1579
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 3: i was playing more After zero got. Injured and THEN

1580
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 3: i was on the bench AND i was sitting there

1581
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 3: AND i kind of blacked, out AND i came back

1582
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 3: to and Then Jay jensen saw me black, out and

1583
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 3: THEN i tried to go back and Again he's, like, No, no.

1584
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 3: Nine he got to go to the, backs and they

1585
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 3: took me to the back and they put me on

1586
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 3: like a little ekg thing and they saw it was

1587
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 3: he regulars and they took me to the. Hospital so

1588
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 3: that's WHEN i first found, out AND i missed the

1589
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 3: rest of the season because we kind of had to

1590
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 3: put together a game plan to make SURE i was.

1591
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 3: Okay so that's WHY i had my first heart procedure

1592
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 3: done in Six WHEN i came back AND i was,

1593
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:24,799
Speaker 3: fine and then it sparked up, AGAIN i don't know twenty,

1594
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 3: ten so they ducking fixed. It so they went in

1595
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 3: there to fix the issue and they didn't fix, it

1596
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 3: SO i had to go back in and have another

1597
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 3: surgeon in twenty ten. Preseason, LUCKILY i got back and

1598
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 3: it was never an issue during the. Season and then

1599
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 3: that AND i had it happened two more Times San

1600
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 3: antonio the middle of the season because every TIME i

1601
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 3: had the received, done they would study it so they can, say,

1602
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 3: okay you should feel, this this and, this and if this,

1603
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 3: happens then something's not. Right so THE sao it changed

1604
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 3: again on, me he. Said then they put out a

1605
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 3: stavements AND i was out and, definitely you, know for hard.

1606
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 3: Stuff went and saw a guy And austin who's a,

1607
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 3: guru AND i want to sell a guy that's In.

1608
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 3: Baltimore they both did a study on me and, said

1609
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 3: it's kind of morphed and it's a little bit. Different

1610
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 3: SO i have an extra valve in my heart so

1611
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 3: like it can beat too. Slow so like when you

1612
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 3: get in, shape you, know, ATHLETES i don't know if

1613
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:19,600
Speaker 3: you ever got in get shaped like, this.

1614
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 1: But he was In, miami so he never but, uh

1615
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 1: trust In, miami you definitely got in. Shape but.

1616
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 3: You know how it drops, down you, know fifty sixties or,

1617
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 3: Whatever so didn't want to go there to that extra.

1618
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 3: Rhythm you can get down to like thirty and you

1619
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 3: can just pass the funk. Out so that's why you

1620
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 3: gotta study it SO i know what to feel If

1621
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 3: i'm on a black, OUT i sit down and get

1622
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 3: to a. Spot, anyway they restudied and, say, hey like it's,

1623
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 3: changed so you got to just watch for this that

1624
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 3: THAT i came back, again, said and the last time

1625
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 3: was In, brooklyn which this one probably hurts the. MOST

1626
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 3: i got the vaccine and at the TIME i kept,

1627
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 3: ASKING i was, like is there any evidence that it,

1628
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 3: causes you, know any hard complications and. Hard they were

1629
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 3: so not the, team but like the government or. Whoever

1630
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 3: like they were so you, know eager to push. It

1631
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i didn't want to get, it BUT i got.

1632
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 3: It they were so eager to push it that that

1633
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 3: it wasn't any evidence at the. Time so THEN i

1634
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 3: got the vaccine AND i went home that, night and

1635
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 3: then LIKE i was black and out over and over

1636
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,560
Speaker 3: AND i couldn't keep consciousness or.

1637
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: Whatever it was kind of.

1638
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 3: Weird so the next ONE i, WENT i went to

1639
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 3: the hospital and you, know by THEN i was, normal

1640
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 3: BUT i was, like after what happened last, NIGHT i

1641
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 3: can't go play.

1642
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 1: Again so that's WHEN i stepped. Away and definitely which

1643
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 1: one did you? Get which vaccine did you? GET i don't.

1644
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,640
Speaker 1: KNOW i DIDN'T i didn't want it anything at this.

1645
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 2: Point, YEAH i didn't want it, either BUT i had

1646
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 2: to take one.

1647
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: Too. YEAH i don't remember what one of them things year.

1648
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 3: Round, NO i know THAT i tried to erase all

1649
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 3: that stuff now because there was because that's When Katie

1650
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 3: fu was on the, line and that's when he just

1651
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 3: needed one more shot from a. Teammate i'm sitting at home,

1652
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 3: like If i'm, THERE i could definitely give him a,

1653
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 3: bucket like so that that would hurt a, lot because,

1654
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 3: like If i'm there with that, GROUP i think.

1655
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 1: You get a chip.

1656
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 2: Exactly, yeah that hurt most, definite damn most definitely out

1657
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 2: of all the teams you can play, for all the

1658
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 2: teammates you had in YOUR nba, career if you had

1659
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 2: to build a start in five plus you who would beat?

1660
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 1: Them four other? Guys you with the Power ultimate. FIVE

1661
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 1: i did my. HOMEWORK i saw you always asked this.

1662
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 1: Question this is for.

1663
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 3: Me it's tough BECAUSE i played with talented motherfucker's dame

1664
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 3: and Beat roy And.

1665
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 4: Zebo whenever you pick, them they automatically. Prime it's not

1666
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 4: like if you played with like you play With. Tim

1667
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 4: at the, end you Picked, tim it's Prime. Timmy so you.

1668
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 3: Good Like i'm kind of stuck because when you play

1669
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 3: with Three hall Of, famers they gotta make. It No

1670
01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 3: LIKE i played with, FIVE i played With Tony, parker

1671
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 3: and THERE i played with AND i play With. Tim

1672
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 3: so that's three spots if you're going off straight winning and.

1673
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 3: Ability you know What i'm, Saying, like the only ONE

1674
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 3: i might tweak is like Maybe dame Over tony is

1675
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 3: Like damon AND i had a really really good. Ran

1676
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 3: so this is WHAT i kind of came up. With

1677
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:21,560
Speaker 3: and no.

1678
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: Shade i'm all about. Peace.

1679
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 3: Man we got, enough you know What i'm saying, exactly

1680
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 3: we got enough bad ship in this. World but WHEN

1681
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 3: i was doing this, EXERCISES i know you always asked the.

1682
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 3: Ship SO i was trying to do my. HOMEWORK i

1683
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 3: THINK i gotta go dang at. One, yeah it's tough from.

1684
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 3: Here it's really tough from.

1685
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 1: Here that's WHAT i. Got you play With, Kawhi that's

1686
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 1: What i'm. Saying, BRO i played with, you so it's

1687
01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: like you gotta have some of the pitches off of

1688
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: like it's too. HARD i played with some really r m,

1689
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: HM i, QUICK i. Quick you gotta give us a.

1690
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 1: Five we gotta put this in The we gotta put

1691
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:09,560
Speaker 1: this in a in a.

1692
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 3: Category it's gonna be a bracket and me And dan

1693
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 3: gonna just play two versus.

1694
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:15,759
Speaker 1: Five.

1695
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 3: MAN i can't, LIKE i don't. KNOW i played with

1696
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 3: some heavy. Heroes, Man it's this is it's tough because

1697
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 3: Like damar AND i had a good run TO. Kd

1698
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 3: you know he's talented as all get, out all, right

1699
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:40,799
Speaker 3: DANG kd and my only, team right.

1700
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: You either four or the, five however you.

1701
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:49,480
Speaker 3: PUT i gotta be the five in this this. Situation

1702
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 3: SO i GOT i Got, DAME i Got katie BECAUSE

1703
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:01,640
Speaker 3: i On tim at IF i meet the, four BUT

1704
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 3: i got too many other guards that are that are

1705
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:04,640
Speaker 3: that are.

1706
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 2: Good this IS i, SAY i, say Put tim at

1707
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 2: the put you at the.

1708
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 1: Flow that's that's my. Opinion but then my going. Out

1709
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 1: but it's all Going dame K k why and you and.

1710
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 3: Duncan oh that's nice, one but but the only the

1711
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 3: only issue with, that if you think as a, coach

1712
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 3: is you need some. Fillers like that's a bunch of ball,

1713
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 3: dominant so ill don't Think manu can do a lot of.

1714
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 3: STUFF i want to throw money in it because he's

1715
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 3: gonna have all that stuff kind of kind of. Flow

1716
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 3: but he's going off. TALENT i WOULD i go with that,

1717
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 3: one BUT i think money gonna have everything. Flow LIKE

1718
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 3: i think like a. Coach sometimes it's like.

1719
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: You so so dang man new k d U h Who.

1720
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 3: I'm bros right, Now.

1721
01:16:55,280 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 1: I'm no here.

1722
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 3: Right if you're trying to just go off most, talented

1723
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 3: you gotta go DAMN kd quiet and then like timing

1724
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 3: myself or you gotta go me at.

1725
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 4: The that's four top seventy fives and you and that's

1726
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 4: that's that's defense and four top seventy Five DAME Kd

1727
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 4: kawhi And timmy our top seventy five and.

1728
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 1: You that's a crazy ass. Five, yeah that's. Crazy we

1729
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 1: don't put it in the.

1730
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 4: Bracket and see we're gonna get the fans to vote

1731
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 4: who they think we're gonna do a Bracket tollerge bracket war.

1732
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 3: Fans they can't vote me off the. Team now they're

1733
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 3: trying to get rid of.

1734
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 1: Mind, no trying to get rid of. Me this is your.

1735
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 1: Five your five can kick you off your. Five let

1736
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 1: me let me ask you. This you came to the.

1737
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 2: LEAD i know your mom had a, big big presence

1738
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 2: in your. Life throughout this, interview you to mention her

1739
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 2: a couple of. TIMES i know what your mom mean to.

1740
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 2: You but just tell the world and tell, us, man

1741
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 2: like your whole journey in life and how she's a.

1742
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 2: Grandmama just what your mom meant to you and what

1743
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 2: she's done for you to get you to this point in.

1744
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 3: Life, yeah, man you, know she just was like on

1745
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 3: the you, know on the ground, floor developing like The

1746
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 3: moraules and the character and the foundation THAT i could

1747
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 3: grow and take it and you, know go to do

1748
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 3: WHAT i wanted to. Do but, no, man she's always

1749
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 3: had my black and, bother, good bad and. Different Whether

1750
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 3: i'm right or wrong or you know What i'm, Saying

1751
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 3: she's always, yeah died ten toes. Down so, nah, man

1752
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 3: she just helped me get to WHERE i. Am she

1753
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 3: battled and worked all, day you, know to provide for

1754
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 3: me and my, brother and you, know without, HER i

1755
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 3: definitely wouldn't have had an opportunity to be WHERE i am.

1756
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 3: Today so it's just like you appreciate some one, that

1757
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 3: you know What i'm, saying working the tail off and

1758
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 3: trying to provide for you and you, know trying to

1759
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 3: do anything they can to help you achieve your, dream

1760
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 3: you know What i'm, Saying, like you, know doing what

1761
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 3: she can do to put food on the table and you,

1762
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 3: know keep lights on in the. House and also at

1763
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 3: a younger, age you, know instilling to me of trying

1764
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 3: to be you, know, Excellent like we don't make seeds

1765
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 3: in this, house you make a's and b's AND i

1766
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 3: really want all. A's if you start learning to have

1767
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 3: that standard at a young, age and that's what carries

1768
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 3: you throughout.

1769
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 1: Life so that's maybe.

1770
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 3: The difference of, me you, know stand after the you,

1771
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 3: know after the game and then going to shoot or

1772
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 3: like you, said or, Mad i'm gonna go. Drink like

1773
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,639
Speaker 3: maybe that standard that she said at a young, age

1774
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 3: maybe that's what carried over to those you know days

1775
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 3: after the.

1776
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 1: Game you don't.

1777
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 3: Know So i'm just very appreciative of what she instilled

1778
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 3: in the base that she gave. Me and through every

1779
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 3: surgery injury, like she hasn't missed one. Surgery it doesn't

1780
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 3: matter where, is you, know what's going, on how big

1781
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 3: hot small like she makes every. Surgery, so you, KNOW

1782
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 3: i just appreciate, you you, know her support for.

1783
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 1: Sure shout out to your.

1784
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:13,640
Speaker 2: Moms, MAN i remember down there all the time in

1785
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 2: your rookie, year and that's the one thing she did

1786
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 2: that was great for. You she kept you away from

1787
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 2: them jail. Blade, MAN.

1788
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 1: I was kicking it with. Y'ALL i wash us watch

1789
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 1: boxing matches all that. Stuff cook, all wasn't that?

1790
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 3: Man was like AS i, said the picture that was

1791
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,560
Speaker 3: painted to me and what y'all really were about was.

1792
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 1: Opposite.

1793
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 3: Y'all never tried to get me to not go to, practice,

1794
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 3: y'all never try to talk to me into doing something, stupid.

1795
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: Y'all always definitely, yeah that was, like, y'all.

1796
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 2: Definitely it's just it's nothing In, portland so only thing

1797
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 2: else to talk about is guys riding around with big

1798
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 2: rims on their car exactly.

1799
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 3: One.

1800
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 1: TIME i tell one story about the. Males it's, safe

1801
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 1: but everybody.

1802
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 3: Sa we went out one time In, portland like a

1803
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 3: little Rookie dean club or, whatever and we're kicking it

1804
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 3: AND i think Z bo showed up, late but we

1805
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 3: in there and like you could get drinks and stuff

1806
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 3: or whatever and kick it or whatever and then d.

1807
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 3: Males at this Time i'm a. Rookie he threw me

1808
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 3: like two racks and it was, like go buy some.

1809
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 3: DRINKS i was like, Cool so like what do you?

1810
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 3: Want he's, like, well just give me, this like he.

1811
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 3: Wants he ordered one. DRINK i want to got one

1812
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 3: drink for the rest of that money in my pocket

1813
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 3: and went. HOME i spent five dollars on that. Drink

1814
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 3: the other the other hundred in my. Pocket AND i went.

1815
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 1: HOME i THINK i remember that club. TOO i can't

1816
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 1: think of the, day but right, down well he did

1817
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 1: even ask you got. IT i was, Like i'm gonna

1818
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 1: go and go. Home i'm.

1819
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 3: Good brott to look out for the.

1820
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: Rookies. Man you gotta look for the, rookies, man keep them.

1821
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 4: Right.

1822
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 1: Man Oh, Man well that's.

1823
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 3: Love.

1824
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 4: Man you, know we appreciate you pulling up on. Us

1825
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 4: la D miles rookie. Man we had to make it.

1826
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 4: Happen come live on location with the Guys Man La LaMarcus.

1827
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 4: Auic did y'all tapped? In check us?

1828
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 1: Out shut it? Up all?

1829
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:22,800
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1830
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1835
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