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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lollly. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and we've had a couple of days now, yeah,

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Speaker 2: to kind of digest this whole train. It took place

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Speaker 2: on Monday. Make a Fitzpatrick going to the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: In return, the Steelers get Jalen Ramsey Johnny Smith, and

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Speaker 2: it just makes a whole lot of sense.

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Speaker 3: The more and more you unpeel that, it makes a

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Speaker 3: ton of sense. It really does for so many levels.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Ramsey is a better player than

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Speaker 3: or Maker is a better player than Ramsey, but Ramsey's

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Speaker 3: skill sets harder to find. I think they're going to

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Speaker 3: change their schemes a lot, and they've they've pieced together

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Speaker 3: corner for too long, you know what I mean. And

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Speaker 3: it's such an important position, and I think that they

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Speaker 3: like their safety. They may add a safety, but I

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Speaker 3: think they're happy with the other two guys.

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Speaker 2: You know, Here's the thing I dug out so last

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Speaker 2: year to slot receivers, Receivers aligned in the slot. The

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Speaker 2: Steelers allowed one hundred and thirty nine receptions, which.

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Speaker 3: Isn't bad, which isn't crazy. I mean it's an easier

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Speaker 3: throw for quarterback. You know slots, you know you want

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Speaker 3: your receiver and fantasy to line up in the slot.

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Speaker 3: They get a lot of free, you know, layup targets.

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Speaker 2: But it went for two thousand and three yards and

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Speaker 2: ten touchdowns. Yeah, and that adds up the fourteen point

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Speaker 2: four yards per catch they allowed.

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Speaker 3: Was the last that has to be terrible.

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Speaker 2: Last. That's not slot receiver, right.

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Speaker 3: That's not Welker getting four yards.

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Speaker 2: And as you said, right, easy throws, easy throws, but hi,

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Speaker 2: you know return for Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: So I think there's a couple layers here. First off,

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Speaker 3: one thing I did, and I'm sure you've looked at

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Speaker 3: this too, is I really went and I looked at

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Speaker 3: Smith and Ramsey's alignment. Yeah, and we'll talk more about

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Speaker 3: Smith than but Ramsey with Miami was still mostly an

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Speaker 3: outside corner, but has an extensive history of playing a slot.

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Speaker 2: And he's about thirteen career snash Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Dead on. I mean he was even recruited as a safety.

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Speaker 3: He's played some nickel linebacker stuff, especially with the Rams.

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Speaker 3: The Rams called it a star position, which the reason

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Speaker 3: they called a star is there's five points of a star.

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Speaker 3: Fifth guy's a nickel, so they call a star whatever.

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Speaker 3: So he was basically a nickel for them. To your point,

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Speaker 3: he's better than Beanie Bishop and Beanie by bye a lot,

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Speaker 3: by a thousand. You know, one of them is the

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Speaker 3: best slot guy in the league and the other one's

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Speaker 3: a borderline roster player. That's a good story. That made

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Speaker 3: some big plays, But I think there's even more layers

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Speaker 3: to it that we didn't talk about Monday. With those

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Speaker 3: slot numbers, it really adds up as well. Is we

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Speaker 3: know this pass rush, even though they didn't have a

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Speaker 3: ton of sacks, is lethal and is scary and maybe

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Speaker 3: even better now than it was last year. So the

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Speaker 3: teams that had the success were get the ball out quick,

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Speaker 3: easy throws, not drive at deep out routes and comebacks

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Speaker 3: outside the numbers and stuff like that too. So even

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Speaker 3: if Menca and Ramsey are equal players, the beauty of

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Speaker 3: having Menca so deep is on longer developing plays where

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Speaker 3: I would rather change my strengths closer to the line

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Speaker 3: of scrimmage coverage wise, because if the guy's back there

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Speaker 3: tapping the ball for two point eight two point nine seconds,

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Speaker 3: he's gonna get hit. Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: And so it was kind of imbalanced before, as all

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Speaker 3: defenses are. You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that rdage total that they allowed the slot receivers

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Speaker 2: two thousand and three yards. Mind you, they only gave

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Speaker 2: up a little over thirty eight hundred yeah passing area,

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Speaker 2: so more than half the artists total or to allow

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Speaker 2: it was the slot receivers. Yeah, can't happen.

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Speaker 3: It can't happen. And again it nullifies your pass rush.

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Speaker 3: And their tackling is pretty good too. It's not like boy,

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Speaker 3: they hits. I mean just watching the tape and people

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Speaker 3: probably remember games. It's not like man Bishop couldn't gain

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Speaker 3: eighty or play. No, that was an area of weakness,

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Speaker 3: you know. And it's a little bit on linebackers too.

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Speaker 3: I always look at you know, it's not just slot corners,

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Speaker 3: But massively upgrading its slot I think has a huge

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Speaker 3: ripple effect. It makes all the sense in the world.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not saying Steelers are behind the times, but

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Speaker 3: you're definitely seeing more teams invest real things in slots. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know. I mean it was an easy position to

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Speaker 3: seems like a million years ago, we're not giving a

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Speaker 2: He Cam Sutton and Sutton right exactly.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of the logic for not paying slots are, well,

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Speaker 3: they got to tackle running backs. They're not going to

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Speaker 3: be long for this world. They're one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: pounds trying to tackle Derrick Henry. I don't think they're

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Speaker 3: gonna last. But now people are like, just give me

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Speaker 3: bigger guys, give me Brian Branch, give me Ramsey. You

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Speaker 3: know that can do all these things. Yeah, he's also

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Speaker 3: a good blitzer.

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Speaker 2: So what I think is going to happen because a

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Speaker 2: lot of people have asked this, you're not paying Ramsey

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Speaker 2: just to be the slot.

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Speaker 3: No, not at all.

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Speaker 2: So I think Ramsey importer aligne on the outside when

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Speaker 3: I was going to bring that up too, and I've

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Speaker 3: leaned the same way. I don't think Ramsey ever comes

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Speaker 3: off field no. Yeah, he's too good, he's too versatile,

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Speaker 3: he's too talented, he's expensive, you know. I mean, like,

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Speaker 3: you don't invest in him to be thirty snap guy.

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Speaker 2: The other thing that does is everyone who is concerned

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Speaker 2: about Darius Slay's age. Now he becomes the Cam Heyward. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: for when we need him sat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and of course injury. It's an awesome backup. We

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Speaker 3: were texting back and forth, and strangely enough, I was

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Speaker 3: asked today on my podcast, is that the best corner

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Speaker 3: trio in the league. I think the answer is probably yes.

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Speaker 2: I think it's yes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I came up with like six teams that are

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Speaker 3: But I'm like, I don't know I trade any of

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Speaker 3: them for that group for this year. Yeah, and it's

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Speaker 3: also great insurance if Sleigh does fall off in his thirties.

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Speaker 3: But if you ask less of Sleigh on early downs,

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Speaker 3: it's less tackling, less, you know, less running, less running,

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Speaker 3: less everything wear and tear. It all makes sense, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I was a little shocked back to we were

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Speaker 3: just talking about that his Miami snaps were as heavy

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Speaker 2: They have the worst.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you talk about the best warner back of the room,

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Speaker 3: But anyways, I just think I've been thinking about this

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Speaker 3: typical outside guys, Ramsey's definitely gonna be one of them. Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 3: And I can't imagine Porters not the other, which is

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Speaker 3: no knock at all on Sleigh. No, I may welcome it.

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Speaker 2: I think he's the best number three in the league.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe even play more nickel than ever. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, because you get your best football players out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now you got Peyton Wilson and Queen inside, and

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Speaker 2: you got your you know, your edge rushers.

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Speaker 3: Fore man front.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's formidable.

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Speaker 3: It's formidable, no question about it. And again, i'd rather

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Speaker 3: be if my let's say, the top fifteen guys on

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Speaker 3: big Sleigh if he's the third corners guys that might

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Speaker 3: not be technically starters. If my free safety is my

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Speaker 3: weakest guy, and it's uh Thornhill or Thornhill's my weakest guy. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I mean that's better than Bishop being my weakest guy,

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Speaker 3: or you know Roberts in coverage. Roberts a good player,

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Speaker 3: but he's one dimension, you know what I mean, like

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Speaker 3: some of the guys you played with. If you go

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Speaker 3: fifteen deep on defense and my fifteenth best players Thornhill, okay,

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Speaker 3: you know, or safety to be named later, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think it's well off the line of scrimmage with

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Speaker 3: that pass rush. That's why I'm going that, Not that

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Speaker 3: thorn Hill's bad or good. It's just if I can

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Speaker 3: have my week at the If I'm game planning for

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Speaker 3: the Steelers, I'm going who in coverage I want to attack?

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Speaker 3: All right, let's challenge Thornhill.

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Speaker 2: Good luck?

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Speaker 3: Well, you better hold the ball on time, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. You're gonna your quarterbacks not gonna love

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Speaker 2: Right Looking at Johnny Smith and people say, well, what

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Speaker 2: does this mean for Pat Friarmouth? Nothing my much. They

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Speaker 2: played thirteen personnel fifteen percent of the time. Like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they played twelve personnel of the time. Yeah, so forty

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Speaker 3: Right, which is right at the top of the league.

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Speaker 3: When you combine the two, you know, at thirteen it

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Speaker 3: but it's like six highest percentage just to put it

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Speaker 2: So that doesn't change, No, and you can even go

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Speaker 3: Well, they might be sure they will. Yeah, I'm sure

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Speaker 3: they will. I'm not sure what if they're most used

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Speaker 3: it might be more multiple. It wouldn't shock me. A

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Speaker 3: fifty percent of their snaps they have multiple tight ends, yeh,

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Speaker 3: which is still a big jump because they're three of

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Speaker 3: your best players again, right right.

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Speaker 2: And Aaron Rodgers over the course of his career has

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Speaker 2: shown he likes to throw to the tight end.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some of his tight end history stuff is really

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Speaker 3: interesting because I think he even mentioned Darnell Washington. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the same vein as Marcedes Lewis. Yeah, massive human being.

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Speaker 3: But he's also had the Jermichael Finleys of the world,

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Speaker 3: that looked like John new You know what I mean

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Speaker 3: that we're going to be on the field together with

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Speaker 3: on this on other outlets too, why any three tight ends.

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Speaker 3: I wish he almost didn't have a te next to

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Speaker 3: his name because he has as many snaps outside as

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Speaker 3: a pure wide out let alone slot as he has

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Speaker 3: inline you know, I mean his inline stuff, especially with

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Speaker 3: the Dolphins last year, he had like one hundred snaps

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Speaker 3: or something as a true inline Mark Brunner old school

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Speaker 2: Right, do it, But that's they're not looking for that.

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Speaker 2: Lu Color replaced him with right Darren Waller.

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Speaker 3: Right right, right, exactly. That's not what they want at all.

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Speaker 3: He's a big slot. Yeah, he almost should have wr

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Speaker 3: Rome and Calvin, right, you know, I mean, And it's

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Speaker 3: not a competition, it's just a different body type for

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Speaker 3: the slot. And Austin's fine outside. He might even better outside. Right. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So I think they've they become very dangerous on that side.

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Speaker 3: I could use that, you know, I was making the

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Speaker 2: There was nobody that deserved right, right, right, more than

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Speaker 3: And London's better now than then. They would have killed

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lollie. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and I'm Matt. Matt Miller on ESPN has

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Speaker 2: put together the early mock draft. Yeah, ok for next year.

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Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and take a look at this. Now.

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Speaker 2: They're basing the draft order on their Football Power Index.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Okay, and this thing came out June thirtieth.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so Rogers at lease was on board.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so I'm Steelers probably picking a little earlier

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Speaker 3: I would think, so, I mean, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: Probably not.

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Speaker 3: That's a big jump.

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Speaker 2: So he is Cleveland taking k klub Nick from Clemson, okay, quarterback?

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Speaker 2: Right at two, the Giants take Francis Mayou got the

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Speaker 3: what I've seen. Yeah, and I would assume Dart's going

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Speaker 2: I think he is. They took him in a freight.

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Speaker 3: Nick is sitting there. If you turn your back on him,

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Speaker 3: I don't know you're a pick for them though.

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Speaker 2: Three the Titans take T J. Parker from Clemson.

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Speaker 3: He's the d lineman. Yeah, Okay, Clemson's defense is gonna

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Speaker 2: I think the defense is solid.

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Speaker 3: The only reason I fight you is their schedule is

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Speaker 2: it's a step class. At four, the Jets take Anthony Hill,

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Speaker 2: I could much more see them picking second than the Giants.

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Speaker 2: You know, sel I won my two games.

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Speaker 3: Two games, three games, maybe four. That's hard to do.

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 2: So the Jets take Anthony Hill. The Saints take Caleem

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Speaker 3: Okay, Diggs is basically a stop gap. Maybe there's some

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Speaker 3: make sense for anyone.

437
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Speaker 2: At nine, the Rams from Atlanta take Caden Proctor offensive

438
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Speaker 2: tackle Alabama.

439
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Speaker 3: I guess haven't seen still quarterback. Still only one quarterback again,

440
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 3: very subject to change, but I bet there's more than

441
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Speaker 3: one quarterback.

442
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 2: And I can see the Rams taking a quarterback absolutely.

443
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Speaker 3: Or trading up. They have two first round picks. Two

444
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Speaker 3: the Browns and Rams of two first round picks, and

445
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 3: they both gotta be very much in the quarterback market.

446
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Speaker 2: At ten, the Seattle Seahawks take Spencer Fano offensive tackle Utah.

447
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 3: Got me two years in a rowgo no line. Steelers

448
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 3: like move seeing teams do that more and more. That

449
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 3: adds up.

450
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Speaker 2: At eleven, the Colts take Garrett no Smier quarterback Lsu.

451
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to put any faith in Richardson Jones

452
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 3: is a rental. I could absolutely see them being in

453
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Speaker 3: the first round quarterback.

454
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Speaker 2: Yeah. At twelve, the Browns from Jacksonville take Caleb Loomu

455
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Speaker 2: the other offensive tackle from Utah.

456
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Speaker 3: Their O line needs a ton of work.

457
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

458
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Speaker 3: I mean again, I can't stress enough how shocked down

459
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Speaker 3: that they did not draft one offensive lineman.

460
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Speaker 2: At thirteen, the Cowboys take Keltrick Falk edge rusher out

461
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Speaker 2: of Auburn.

462
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Speaker 3: Okay, Lawrence has moved on. They're gonna pay Parsons heavy.

463
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Speaker 3: You mean they did take the Boston College kids, Azaruko.

464
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Speaker 2: He's this kid's different though. He's six six to an hern.

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Speaker 3: Idiots, He's like more of a bumping size. Okay, he's big, Yeah, Okay,

466
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Speaker 3: that would make sense.

467
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Speaker 2: At fourteen, the Cardinals take Antonio Williams, wide receiver.

468
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Speaker 3: Clemson second receiver. Would makes sense.

469
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Speaker 2: That's four Clemson guys.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen insane Yeah, and one of them is a quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They should be loaded this year.

473
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Speaker 2: At fifteen, the Dolphins take Jermond McCoy, cornerback out of Tennessee.

474
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Speaker 3: We talked about this the first segment. Their cornerback room

475
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Speaker 3: was bad with Ramsay. Now it's like historically bad with

476
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Speaker 3: m Yeah. It's really rough. Yeah, a lot of retreads

477
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Speaker 3: and Storm Duck you know, I mean that might be

478
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Speaker 3: your starting corner.

479
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Duck's right, it's sixteen the Steelers Tick Leonora's Sellers

480
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Speaker 2: quarterback out of South Carolina.

481
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Speaker 3: Okay, big, strong, fast, super raw doesn't have a ton

482
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Speaker 3: of experience, yet people will give him. There's Richardson vibe.

483
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Speaker 2: He's a red shirt freshman last year, so he'll be

484
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Speaker 2: a red shirt sophomore, but elf two years of starting.

485
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Speaker 3: Thience, experience. I mean, he's not a guaranteed to even

486
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Speaker 3: come out. He doesn't have to. I'm considered very smart,

487
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Speaker 3: very conscientious, and you know, works on his craft and

488
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Speaker 3: all those type of things. If he is a big

489
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Speaker 3: time year, he's on last and fifteen, no, you know,

490
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Speaker 3: because he may run a four or five flat at

491
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Speaker 3: two hundred and forty five pounds and rocket arm and

492
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Speaker 3: all those things. Yeah, I mean, if Richardson goes on

493
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Speaker 3: top five, he might go on the top five roll.

494
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Speaker 2: Richardson shouldn't have gone in the top five. That was

495
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Speaker 2: a mistake. And he's gonna have more experience, yeah than

496
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Speaker 2: Richardson by the time he comes out.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but same with Manning. By recent quarterback standards, some

498
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Speaker 3: of these guys are six year starters.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you know, but two years versus one year.

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Speaker 3: Oh, compared to Richardson. Yeah, Da Richardson hardly played it all.

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Speaker 2: At seventeen, the Bears take Jeremiah Love running back at

502
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Speaker 2: a Notre Dame.

503
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Speaker 3: Sounds like he's the clear one.

504
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 2: He's good.

505
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, the little I've seen about him or people

506
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Speaker 3: talking about him, he would have been behind genty, would

507
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Speaker 3: have battled Hampton to be the second back this year. Yeah,

508
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 3: but he's the best back in college football.

509
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Speaker 2: At eighteen, the Vikings take Tim keenan defensive tackle out

510
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Speaker 2: of Alabama.

511
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Speaker 3: Now that they signed to but they're both old. Yeah

512
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Speaker 3: hard Raven Allen okay.

513
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: In nineteen, the Packers take lt overton ed rusher out

514
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Speaker 2: of Alabama.

515
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Speaker 3: That would make some sense. They need Gary to get

516
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Speaker 3: back to where he was a couple of years ago.

517
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 3: Van Ness, I don't think is ever going to be

518
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 3: a difference maker. He's not an edge bender. He's a bully. Yeah,

519
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 3: that makes some sense. Corner will make a lot of

520
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 3: sense for them too, after Alexander situation.

521
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Speaker 2: At twenty, the Broncos take Eli Stours tight end out.

522
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Speaker 3: Of Vanderbilt, possibly Ingram's not going to be their long term.

523
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 3: Their weapons to me are still a little lacking.

524
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy's more of a slot a six four five.

525
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Speaker 3: Oh the Vanderbilt kid okay, former quarterback from what I understand,

526
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Speaker 3: and kind of a leaner downfield type tight end. Yeah.

527
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: Twenty one, the Texan steak Austin Barber offensive tackle Florida.

528
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think they're kind of hoping and praying that

529
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Speaker 3: these O line changes not only are better than last year,

530
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Speaker 3: but are or somewhat of a long term.

531
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Speaker 2: That's fourth offensive tackle in the top twenty one.

532
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Speaker 3: Okay, the Steelers aren't in the offensive tackle we hope,

533
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: So at twenty two, the Buccaneers take Patrick Payton ed

534
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: rusher at of LSU. I thought they would go ed

535
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 3: rusher really high this year, and they didn't.

536
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: At twenty three, the forty nine Ers take Isaiah World

537
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Speaker 2: offensive tackle Oregon.

538
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Speaker 3: Sure, Trent Williams isn't gonna last much longer, right, so

539
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: what's that five or six tackles?

540
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Speaker 2: That's five at twenty four, and I disagree that this

541
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Speaker 2: team will be. At twenty four, the Bengals take Avon Terrell,

542
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: cornerback at a Clemson.

543
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 3: He's Ajterrell's brother, Yeah, and another at Clemson. Yet, I

544
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: don't think anybody's gonna fight that they could eat the corner.

545
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: This idea that the Bengals are an elite team is

546
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 2: mind boggling.

547
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Speaker 3: Twenty four I don't think is crazy extreme. They could

548
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Speaker 3: be a playoff team, could be I some of the

549
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 3: So Warren.

550
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Speaker 2: Sharpe, where did they get better this year?

551
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Speaker 3: That's the thing. That's the thing. They just we're gonna

552
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: pay Higgins. We're gonna run it back and do the

553
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 3: exact same thing. And you're making your two d ns

554
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Speaker 3: that are super important to you unhappy as we speak

555
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 3: to like, I can't imagine the defense being two tiers better.

556
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe it's two percent better, but not the

557
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 3: worst defensive league. It's the twenty ninth best defensive league. Yeah,

558
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: they're just not very good football player. No, and their

559
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 3: protection is really bad. I mentioned Warren Sharp put on

560
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 3: his book yesterday. I'm going to read the Bengals tonight,

561
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 3: but he'd sent a tweet out about how brutal burrows

562
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: protection has off, I mean through his whole career, and

563
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: they're not. It's kind of Andrew luck esque in terms

564
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 3: of not protecting your best asset.

565
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Speaker 2: At twenty five, the Commander's take a J Harris cornerback

566
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Speaker 2: out of Penn State.

567
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Speaker 3: Okay, Lattimore might not be a good trade for them,

568
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 3: but they took the QUARNERO it took trains and st Yeah.

569
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Speaker 3: I think their defense totally needs needs a ton of work,

570
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Speaker 3: So I definitely think it could be defense. I don't

571
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: know if it'd be a corner though.

572
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: At twenty six, the Chargers take C. J. Allen linebacker Georgia.

573
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Speaker 3: I guess that's possible. I don't know much about him.

574
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: Is he an off the ball.

575
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Speaker 2: GUYM six one five?

576
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Speaker 3: So he's on that drusher?

577
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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't see the Chargers being twenty six.

578
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: No, I don't either. I mean that's probably won the

579
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,719
Speaker 3: playoff games. Yeah, yeah, I don't think they're in that neighborhood.

580
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if I would pick them to be

581
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Speaker 3: one of my seven in the AFC.

582
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Speaker 2: At twenty seven, the Rams state Drew Aller, quarterback out

583
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Speaker 2: of Penn State.

584
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I definitely think whether it's this pick or

585
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 3: the earlier one or whatever, I would think this is

586
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Speaker 3: the year you get a quarterbacks.

587
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, since you got two first round picks.

588
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

589
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: At twenty eight, the Ravens take D'Angelo Pond's cornerback of Indiana.

590
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: I guess Alexander's only a one year deal.

591
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: Humphrey's not young.

592
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 3: Humphrey's not young. Wiggins is okay, and see what happens

593
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Speaker 3: with Alexander.

594
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Speaker 2: It is a five point nine, one hundred and seventy

595
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Speaker 2: pound cornerback.

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Speaker 3: He's from Bama, he said, no Indiana, Indiana, Okay, I

597
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: don't know him.

598
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Speaker 2: At twenty nine, the Lions take Tyreek sap As Russier

599
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Speaker 2: out of Florida.

600
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've been rumored to be in the edge rusher

601
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 3: market for two years now, so they didn't do a

602
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 3: whole lot.

603
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Speaker 2: Thirty the chief Steak Dylan Theman Theneman, I should say

604
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: safety out of Oregon.

605
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Speaker 3: Kay. I'm trying to think here what needs would be

606
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Speaker 3: glaring for them? They hope it's not a line they

607
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: have to keep going back to that. Well it's not

608
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 3: going well. A little bit on it, a little bit

609
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Speaker 3: of everything on defense. It kind of makes sense for.

610
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thirty one take Denzel Boston wide receiver out

611
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Speaker 2: of Washington.

612
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: Maybe their third receiver situation now is very up in

613
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Speaker 3: the air. You laid this out a couple of weeks ago,

614
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Speaker 3: months ago. Guys like AJ Brown or Monster Cap hits

615
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Speaker 3: two years from now. Yeah, I mean there's a couple

616
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Speaker 3: of these guys that are, like, I think he's like

617
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Speaker 3: a sixty million dollar cap hit in twenty twenty seven,

618
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Speaker 3: Like you might have to trade him or you know,

619
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Speaker 3: do something like that.

620
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Speaker 2: And at thirty two, the Buffalo Bills take Jake Slaughter

621
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Speaker 2: center out of Florida.

622
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Speaker 3: Okay, I think they're who is their center?

623
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Speaker 2: Nobody have known.

624
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: Nobody have known, So, I mean it's nobody that they're

625
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: they're lying in general is pretty solid. They won the

626
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl. To you, the best center in the league

627
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 3: or in the draft. Okay, that's a good place to.

628
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: Take that that. You know, this guy six five, three

629
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Speaker 2: oh eight. Okay, so he's a good size center.

630
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Speaker 3: Okay. That's a couple centers in this draft that are

631
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: potential top fifty type guys. Yeah, which is good for

632
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 3: the Steelers still, right.

633
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: Because then they're not gonna be Yeah, but four quarterbacks

634
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Speaker 2: in the first round.

635
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 3: Again, it's only July, but I bet every bit of

636
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: four quarterbacks go next draft.

637
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and they probably all go earlier than this. Yeah,

638
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: top thirteen or fourteen, Yeah, I.

639
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: Think earlier than this.

640
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

641
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 3: So the Saints passing on one if they're in the

642
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: top five, probably.

643
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Speaker 2: Not, probably not right. Anyways, that was Matt Miller's look

644
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Speaker 2: at the twenty twenty six draft, which of course will

645
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Speaker 2: be held here.

646
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

647
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so looking forward to that. But let's get through

648
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649
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652
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Speaker 2: Football Focus put out a little thing here, a propofol fuck,

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Speaker 2: I should say, little blurb that the Steelers are only

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Speaker 2: favored now in six of their seventeen games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I actually saw that last night with it in

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Speaker 3: the Sharp Report thing too.

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Speaker 2: It's a tough schedule.

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Speaker 3: It's tougher than I originally thought in terms of like

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Speaker 3: rest and when they play people, and the end of

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Speaker 3: the year is harder than in the beginning. That still

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Speaker 3: seems like an unusually.

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Speaker 2: Low number, ridiculously low.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I remember when Mike Clay had his thing

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Speaker 2: and he put out right after the draft. I thought

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Speaker 2: it showed the Steelers favored in at least ten of

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Speaker 2: their games.

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Speaker 3: That a one hundredercent sure, so it speak.

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Speaker 2: Makes me wonder what's changed.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing. I mean, I would think vibes should

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Speaker 3: be better than ever you would think without question. Do

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Speaker 3: you know, if the top of your head, I'm are

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Speaker 3: the Bengals favored here?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Assume so? Are the Browns favored in Cleveland? No? Okay, good,

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Speaker 3: I just say that sounds crazy, man, I'm putting a

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Speaker 3: buck on that. Now.

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Speaker 2: All the games in which they're favored, well, one road

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Speaker 2: game at the Jets.

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Speaker 3: Oh, so the Browns are favored in Cleveland?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry to road games?

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: So they're only favored in four home games?

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Speaker 3: Wow? Okay. They definitely should be favored.

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Speaker 2: Week one, and they have nine home games this year,

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Speaker 2: including one over twenty one overseas.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I understand being a dog to the Vikings overseas.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with that, and there are

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Speaker 3: some good teams coming here, of course, Ravens, Bengals, Packers,

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Speaker 3: et cetera. That does seem really low though, Like I

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Speaker 3: had a number of teams.

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Speaker 2: Bring us up because, and I got this from you.

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Speaker 3: Say it's six six, but they're over under win totals

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Speaker 3: eight and a half, right, so shouldn't you be favored

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Speaker 3: in eight or nine?

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Speaker 2: You would think? Yeah, right, Well, I think that's a

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Speaker 2: nod of the cap to Mike Tomlin. Over the last

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Speaker 2: two years, Okay, the Steelers are fifteen and six in

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Speaker 2: one score games.

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Speaker 3: Oh there's some crazy one score game stuff. Yes, that's the.

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Speaker 2: Third most in the league behind the Eagles and Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the Super Bowl teams, right, and.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers have done that using five different starting quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: So I cut and pasted this out of the Sharp

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Speaker 3: Book yesterday and it's along those lines, but I just

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Speaker 3: want to make sure that it gets on the airwaves

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Speaker 3: over these two hours. I was blown away. I mean,

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Speaker 3: talk about the quarterback usage, but when you read it

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Speaker 3: and see it like this, in the last decade, the

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Speaker 3: Steelers have started nine quarterbacks. And here they are in order,

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Speaker 3: Ben Landry Jones, Michael Vick at the end of his career,

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Speaker 3: Mason Rudolph Duck Hodges, Mitch Trubisky, Kenny Pickett, Justin Fields,

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Speaker 3: and Russell Wilson. Okay, just everybody remembers every one of

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Speaker 3: those guys has a winning record except for Trubisky. That's

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Speaker 3: nuts to me. Yeah, that's nuts to me, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean, Like, I bet Rogers is better than

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Speaker 3: half of those and I mean I'm being real conservative

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Speaker 3: there all except for maybe prime Ben right, I mean

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Speaker 3: decade it will go. Ben. Do you think he's gonna

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Speaker 3: have a winning record here? I mean if Duck does,

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Speaker 3: and Picket does, and Rudolph and everybody else.

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Speaker 2: What's the thing? So, all the people who rip on

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin, you don't go fifteen and six in one

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Speaker 2: score games if your head coach doesn't know what the

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Speaker 2: hell he's.

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Speaker 3: Doing right, right, or this team makes no adjustment storing games. Well,

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Speaker 3: they second half, they're much better than the first half.

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Speaker 3: I mean, a huge problem. We haven't talked about this enough.

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Speaker 3: Their their first quarter stuff has been really, really bad

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Speaker 3: and they're open years. Yeah, really bad. Now. They're the

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Speaker 3: worst point differential in the first quarter of all thirty

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Speaker 3: two teams, so more so than any team in the league.

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Speaker 3: They're losing after the first quarter by a significant amount

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Speaker 3: by NFL standing.

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Speaker 2: And yet they have when they've once they're twenty and fourteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the last two years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And a big thing Sharpe was talking about too,

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Speaker 3: is over the last two years, there's been five games

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four and five games in twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: three where they're leading at halftime and they still end

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Speaker 3: up with winning records. They're ten to oh right, Like

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Speaker 3: the analytics fit people will be like, that's impossible, you know,

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Speaker 3: like you play seventeen games, only five of them, you're

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Speaker 3: leading at halftime two years in a row, and you

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Speaker 3: still end up in the playoffs. Now, I mentioned their

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Speaker 3: first quarter point differential. Their third quarter point differential is awesome.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's when they've been at their best. So

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Speaker 3: don't tell me they don't make adjustments a.

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Speaker 2: Halfen, that's coaching.

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Speaker 3: You're right, right, right, don't tell me. I mean you

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00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 3: could say, well, they prep better during the week. I

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00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 3: think that's a valid argument. You know, they should probably

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Speaker 3: look at that situation because the first quarter in early

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Speaker 3: in games has not gone well, but coming out of

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Speaker 3: halftime they're a menace.

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Speaker 2: I think some of that is when you have a

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Speaker 2: head coach and scheme in place for so long. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: the teams know, Okay, here's what we're going to do

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Speaker 2: to attack the Steelers. Yes, but the Steelers then make

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Speaker 2: the adjustments off of that.

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Speaker 3: This is how they're adjusting to us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not making excuses for their first quarter stuff

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Speaker 3: because it's really needs to be better.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. But I also think when you're a run heavy team,

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Speaker 3: some of the dividends start getting paid as the game

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Speaker 3: goes on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know the physicality of it all, you know, the

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Speaker 3: wear and tear of tackling nausea or you know. I

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Speaker 3: mean I think some of that pays off as the

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Speaker 3: game goes on. Yeah. And I also think you got

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Speaker 3: a credit conditioning too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know there's teams like the Bengals that start slow

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Speaker 3: every year because they don't come in in great shape

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Speaker 3: and they wear down in games.

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Speaker 2: For sure, for sure. But I just thought that was interesting.

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Speaker 3: It's coaching, yeah, right, I mean, there's we all know

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Speaker 3: a joke at this point. I know they haven't won

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Speaker 3: a playoff game lately. I'm aware. I'm also aware that

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlins never had a losing season. I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: almost like comical at this point. But when you really

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Speaker 3: think about some of the circumstances they've had to get

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Speaker 3: over just to get to the competitiveness.

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Speaker 2: It's a feather and the coaching cap really doubt Yeah,

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Speaker 2: with that a doubt anyways, that's going to do it

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Speaker 2: for our number one, Matt. Now. I'll be back with

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Speaker 2: our number two right after this