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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ed's podcast. My name is Eddie Judge

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Speaker 1: and I got my.

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Speaker 2: Co host here Edwin are Jave and today we.

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Speaker 1: Have a special guest, John Barlow. If you don't know John,

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Speaker 1: John is the husband of the Real Housewives of Salt

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Speaker 1: Lake City Lisa Barlow. They've been married since two thousand

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Speaker 1: and three and have two kids, two boys, Jack and Henry.

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Speaker 1: Lisa and John have been on the Housewives for the

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Speaker 1: entirety of its existence. I think it's been six years.

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Speaker 1: John is an entrepreneur with multiple businesses, including his and

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Speaker 1: his wife's tequila brand, Vita Tequila. I think we're going

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Speaker 1: to get to talk about a little bit more about that.

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Speaker 1: So John Barlow, welcome to the EDS.

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Speaker 3: Oh thanks for having me, guys. It's an honor, which.

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Speaker 4: By the way, I've had that tequila and I just

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Speaker 4: want to endorse it, very very good tequila. John was

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Speaker 4: nice enough to send me a bottle and enjoyed every

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Speaker 4: drink of that, So thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Oh No, I'm glad that you told me that arrived,

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Speaker 3: because I was racking my brain since we had the schedule.

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Speaker 3: I like, I hope I did send him that bottle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was. It was really good, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I was supposed to confirm that we got it too.

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Speaker 1: I think we did, but my wife didn't know if

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Speaker 1: we had it at the big beer house or here.

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Speaker 2: But and it's it's a nice looking bottle too. It's

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Speaker 2: it's a sexy bottle.

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Speaker 3: I can when we get into this, I'll give you

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Speaker 3: backstory to the bottle and everything. There's actually a story

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Speaker 3: to pretty much all of it.

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Speaker 1: Well it doesn't have a story, then nobody wants to

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Speaker 1: know about it.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, yeah, true, it's all branding nowadays.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: It is so John, you've been on the Housewives for

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Speaker 1: six years. Let's go a little bit backwards before the

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Speaker 1: Housewife and learn a little bit about you. Tell us

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Speaker 1: where'd you grow up in how'd you end up where

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Speaker 1: you're at today?

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Speaker 3: So I have a little bit different of a story,

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Speaker 3: I guess than some people. Not everybody, but some people.

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Speaker 3: I was adopted as a baby and was give up

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Speaker 3: as a baby, adopted, but then returned and then adopted

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Speaker 3: by my parents, and so that's how my life started.

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Speaker 3: And whenever Lisa and I have any type of discussions,

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Speaker 3: you know, maybe arguments, whatever, She's always like, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: give you up for the third time.

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Speaker 1: That's low, man, that is low.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, no, my so, my parents adopted me when

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Speaker 3: I was a baby. I was in foster care for

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Speaker 3: about I think like three or four months. Oh wow

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Speaker 3: again as a baby. Yeah, so I have a I

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Speaker 3: have an affinity for adoption, for foster care, that sort

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Speaker 3: of thing. But we grew up all over. My dad

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Speaker 3: was an executive at IBM. So let's see, we lived

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Speaker 3: in four different places in northern California before I was ten,

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Speaker 3: and in between there, we actually moved to Peoria, Illinois

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Speaker 3: And and I guess, I guess. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: and so and I lived in Colleyville and then But yeah,

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Speaker 3: so I grew up all over. I'm a beach bumb

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Speaker 3: at heart, even though living in a landlocked state.

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Speaker 1: Is that your your your go to sport or hobby,

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Speaker 3: Just so volleyball go to Yeah, I was never. I

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Speaker 3: And then Florida, you know on the east side there's

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Speaker 1: How tall are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm six four?

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Speaker 3: But if I've got the right shoes on six or five?

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Speaker 2: So did you grow up Mormon?

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Speaker 3: I did, Yes, Yes, grew up LDS. I actually served

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Speaker 3: the mission in Las Vegas, of all places. Wow, it

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Speaker 3: And I took Spanish from middle school through high school French.

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Speaker 3: My first three semesters at by U. My best friend

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Speaker 1: So what was the mission in Vegas?

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Speaker 3: So it's it's so the LDS missions are the same

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Speaker 3: And so at the time, you know, we're going back

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Speaker 3: I think four or five missions just in the state

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Speaker 2: You were you trying to convert people on the strip.

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Speaker 3: That was a place we were not allowed to go.

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Speaker 3: And so no, but there there were a lot of

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Speaker 3: what's called tracting, knocking on doors and there was there

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Speaker 2: But so do you go on your mission and then

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Speaker 4: So you first take two years, so you go from

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Speaker 3: That you could have so nowadays they have missionaries go

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Speaker 3: typically when they're eighteen. So essentially, yeah, right out of

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Speaker 3: from serving to mission in Bogueta, Columbia, and he went

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Speaker 1: So I forgot to ask John, do you have any siblings?

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Speaker 3: I have, yes, so's there's four of us, four kids

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Speaker 1: So your older sister came first and then you came,

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Speaker 1: and then they decided to give you up and then

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, they probably did want to give me

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Speaker 3: doubt that. No, no, it was it was just when

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Speaker 3: I said, only for a short period. But my and

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Speaker 3: that's when my parents they actually adopted me through LDS

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Speaker 1: So you you weren't taken back by the original parents,

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Speaker 1: you were adopted by a new set of parents. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: It sounds like you landed with a great family too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I did.

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Speaker 3: I love them. I mean it's great, you know, just

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Speaker 3: like every family has weird dynamics. I'm very fortunate with

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever meet your biological parents?

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Speaker 3: There's a story behind that. So I growing up, my

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Speaker 3: assumed my parents were from California. Your birth parents were

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Speaker 3: actually next week, so it's in November. So if you

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Speaker 3: go back nine months, I figured I was a Valentine's baby.

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Speaker 3: Lisa was on Ancestry just checking away. First cousin that

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Speaker 3: means something. She's on Facebook, Oh my gosh, reaching out.

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Speaker 3: And she reached out to this one guy and she's like, hey,

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Speaker 3: I think my husband is your half brother.

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Speaker 3: What kind of announcement is that? And so he's like,

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Speaker 3: And so, you know, long story short, he was he

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Speaker 3: ended up being my half brother.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: And he uh went to his mom and asked and

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Speaker 3: And so her parents just you know, had her. They

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Speaker 3: so she and I actually messaged quite a bit. She's great.

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Speaker 3: My birth mother's like she sends packages for the kids.

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Speaker 3: And it was tough at first. Yeah, for a few

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Speaker 3: different reasons, but it was. But it's overall, it's been

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Speaker 3: a cool experience.

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Speaker 1: That sounds very cool, like a great, you know, fairy

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Speaker 4: So California, guy, beach guy, you obviously end up in Utah,

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Speaker 3: Uh? Well, so California was on the radar. My buddy

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Speaker 3: were introduced to our distillery down there, and it was

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00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 3: just it was something that, you know, talk talking to Lisa,

437
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 3: we both agreed, We're like, I think this is we

438
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 3: could do something with this. Yeah, And you know, Lisa

439
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 3: grew up not LDS for a larger portion of her life,

440
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 3: and her extended family is not, so she was a

441
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 3: lot more you know.

442
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 2: So she knew tequila.

443
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, she knew tequila. She knew the spirits industry as

444
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 3: a whole, and and so she's like, let's go, let's

445
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 3: go for it. And she's the one that named it.

446
00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 3: We're trying to come up with a name. And she

447
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 3: literally sat up at three in the morning one night

448
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 3: She's like, it's got to be Vita, because Vita means

449
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 3: light nobody can take life. Yeah, like okay, I was

450
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 3: like great, you know she and she's the one, like

451
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 3: I said, when we started, the bottle actually looked like

452
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 3: the Tron and Don Julio had a baby, and so

453
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 3: we went through a rebrand and Lisa is the one

454
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 3: that designed the bottle that we have now and she

455
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 3: wanted it shaped almost like a woman's body with the

456
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 3: shoulders and then slope is the neck, and you're very

457
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 3: specific on how That's why.

458
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 4: I love that bottle so much. I like the bump.

459
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 4: Now I'm like, yeah, I don't know what it is

460
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 4: about bump. So so I like cars as well. So

461
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 4: I've always liked Porsches. I like a little bump on

462
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 4: the you know, so the bottle you go to Porsche.

463
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 4: I love the ninety eleven, nine eleven turbos might go

464
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 4: to although I love an RS, so the new RS

465
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 4: I love.

466
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 3: You know, but yeah, you can't go wrong with Yeah, you.

467
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 2: Can't go wrong with those. But yeah, well you guys

468
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 2: did a great job on that tequila.

469
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 3: So yeah, we're very well. I'm very proud of it.

470
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 3: Thank you. You know, it's award winning, it's in tons

471
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 3: of markets we're working with internationally. Yeah, and you know,

472
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 3: it's it's been. It's been a lot of fun. But

473
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 3: you guys are entrepreneurs, you know how it is. It's

474
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 3: it's a roller coaster. It is. There's days where you're

475
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 3: just like, why the hell am I doing this? Yeah,

476
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 3: I think you know, there's been days where I'm like

477
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 3: I think flipping burgers might actually be better for my

478
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 3: mind than anything else. And there's nothing wrong with anybody

479
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 3: that's flipping burgers. Yeah, but you know it's it is

480
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: but there it is fun. You know, the fun parts

481
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 3: outweigh you know the bad.

482
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: Part absolutely so.

483
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 4: John. Speaking of you know, entrepreneurship, you know that people

484
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 4: often talk about, especially now, diversifying and having different businesses,

485
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 4: and I've always been a big believer of yeah, that's fine,

486
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 4: but you always have to have one that is your

487
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 4: bread and butter, like the one that's just consistent over

488
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 4: that you can always count on, that's just the cash

489
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 4: flow one that comes in that then allows you to

490
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 4: best in all these other businesses. What business would that

491
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 4: be for you? Which one is there? Sort of bread

492
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 4: and butter your go to?

493
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 3: Definitely Vita. You know, Vita has been around the longest.

494
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 3: We we understand the spirits industry from kind of to

495
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: your point, from Vita, our heart Seltzer actually spawned off

496
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 3: from that because the heart Seltzer we call it's blue

497
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 3: Jay again from something with Lisa story behind that. Yeah,

498
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 3: but uh so blue Jay is there's no tequila in it,

499
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 3: but it's a gave a gave flavored or gave centered

500
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 3: and what they what are the producer did is they

501
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 3: actually extracted the flavors of our blanco and put it

502
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 3: into the margarita and the paloma flavor, and then extracted

503
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 3: the flavors of our repsodon't put it in the next

504
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 3: mule flavor and and so yeah, definitely Vita And like

505
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 3: I said, blue Jay spawned off that. Yeah, you know,

506
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 3: and fresh Wolf is still rather new, but it's something

507
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 3: that you know, we were able to do because of

508
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 3: all the other stuff that we're doing.

509
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 4: So I know you don't drink, but if you, if

510
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 4: you did, or the few times you do, are you

511
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 4: a blanco guy reposado or a Yeho guy?

512
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 3: So? But you know, I I do enjoy a good drink,

513
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: though I will say, you know, if I'm not drinking

514
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 3: ur tequila, I love Irish whiskey and so and a

515
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 3: good bourbon is you know you can that can never

516
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 3: go wrong as far as our tequila. It sounds cliche.

517
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm choosing children favorites because I think

518
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 3: they're all great. Then Yeho though, for me, is really

519
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: the one that to sit down and just sip and enjoy.

520
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 3: You know there it's it's two years, age two years

521
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 3: and French oak barrels and it's it's just amazing. And

522
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 3: like I said, all three are great for sipping. But Dineo,

523
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: I think it's just you know, top of top of

524
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 3: the line.

525
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: So let's get in to you and Lisa and about

526
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 1: the show. How were you or what was your reaction

527
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: when you first got introduced to it, like potentially being

528
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: on the show or do you even know when you

529
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: got invited that it was going to be a housewife show?

530
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the interesting backstory, and there's been some disagreement

531
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: on this, but Lisa is the one that brought the

532
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: show here. Oh and so we definitely knew what was

533
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 3: going on. She had actually filmed a couple of pilots

534
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 3: or we had actually filmed a couple of pilots even

535
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: prior to this one. Oh and so Michael Aene is

536
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: the producer that actually presented the show to Bravo and

537
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 3: her company. And what happened is different people have been

538
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 3: trying to connect Lisa to Michael Leene for a couple

539
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 3: of years and just they never could And then finally,

540
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 3: you know, being here in Utah and with Tequila we're

541
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 3: friends with a lot of the restaurant owners and one

542
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 3: of them, specifically her I think it's her husband's her

543
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 3: husband's friend was a producer with Michael Lean and was saying, Hey,

544
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: we want to do a women on an entrepreneur type

545
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 3: type show. Do you know who we should talk to?

546
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 3: And immediately they're like, you got to talk to Lisa Barlowe.

547
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 3: And so Lisa met with Michael Lean and started talking

548
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 3: about it. And you know, we we're really good friends

549
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 3: with the Marx, Mereth and Seth. You know, we go

550
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: back over ten years with them.

551
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: Wow.

552
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: So you Lisa recommended Meredith, she recommended Heather, who Heather

553
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 3: recommended Whitney and I think we're Jen or something like that,

554
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 3: and so, you know, it was it was a it

555
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: was a really interesting process just from you know, started

556
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 3: to finish because the we filmed, they had the husband's

557
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 3: film with the wives a few times, but it's mainly

558
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: just the wives at the different parties for the civil

559
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, they what was it? They put it,

560
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 3: packaged it together. And my understanding is there were about

561
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: two hundred or so submissions that month Bravo, and this

562
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 3: one was the only one that they picked, and they

563
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 3: liked it so much that they wanted it to have

564
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 3: the housewives, you know, Juggernaut behind it, so they Housewives

565
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 3: of Salt Lake City.

566
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: Wow were you? Were you nervous going in?

567
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 3: I didn't know what I didn't know what to think really,

568
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 3: So I think you'd probably get this from a lot

569
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: of the husbands. I never watched any housewife show before, okay,

570
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 3: and so I knew nothing about it other than arguing.

571
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 3: You know, obviously the table flipping's famous and everything like that.

572
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 3: You know, I would be out in the front room

573
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: watching Sports Center till midnight, come in the bedroom to

574
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 3: go to bed, and least it would have probably O

575
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 3: C or Beverly Hills on and and I'd be like, okay,

576
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 3: I'm not going to deal with this, and I just

577
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 3: go and sleep on the couch.

578
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 2: I remember those days.

579
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, So did you look at it more as I

580
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 4: would assume? Correct me if I'm wrong, you're sitting back,

581
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 4: because I kind of the way. That's the way I

582
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 4: looked at it as well. If I go on the show.

583
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 4: It's great for marketing, it's great for business. You know,

584
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 4: you obviously have a vita. Your tequila company was around already. Yeah,

585
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 4: did that in your in your mind? Did that play

586
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 4: a part of it? Well, if I go on the show,

587
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 4: we can market our tequila.

588
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, of course. You know, it's really two things.

589
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 3: One obviously is same with you guys. Wanted to support Lisa,

590
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 3: you know, with whatever she wanted to do. And secondly,

591
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 3: supporting Lisa with it wasn't hard because really the reason

592
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 3: why we really wanted to do it was just for Beta,

593
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 3: you know, for the marketing. And you know, I think

594
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 3: the way that Lisa says that, and I agree, people

595
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: that come on and you know, unless you have something

596
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: that you're really trying to promote, you're just coming on

597
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 3: to yell and screen. Yeah, and and so you know,

598
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 3: we thought, okay, this will be great exposure for the brand,

599
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 3: which it has been. I mean, we've got people in

600
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 3: Scotland messaging us, Hey, we want beta, you know type. Yeah,

601
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: and so it was yes, but so but I came

602
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: in totally blind, like not knowing what to expect.

603
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 4: So this season some of them members are attacking the business.

604
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 4: How do you at least to handle that?

605
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 3: We just take it for what it is, you know,

606
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: we're they're they're giving us more attention, you know, it's

607
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: it's in my opinion, it's sad because especially nowadays, you know,

608
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: women up should be uplifting women or not. I don't

609
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: know if I should should say should be uplifting women,

610
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: but that's you know, the kind of the line of thinking.

611
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 3: And when you see women on any of the franchises

612
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 3: tearing down their businesses, their families or anything, it's really like,

613
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: it's kind of sad to see because you could still

614
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 3: have the drama and everything without trying to ruin someone's life.

615
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, has it affected the business set all the fact

616
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 4: that they're or is it bad press?

617
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: Is good press? Sometimes?

618
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: Well, let's let's unpack that a little bit, like what

619
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: was what was it that they did to try to

620
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: affect your business in a negative way?

621
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: Uh? Oh, they're just bringing up stuff from the past.

622
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: You know, we've we've had just like any businesses, we've

623
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: had lawsuits in the past, okay, and move past it.

624
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: But they're trying to make it more salacious than it was.

625
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: Oh okay, and so you know it's just like yeah,

626
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 3: and Lisa in one of the episodes, she's like, okay, guys,

627
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: you talked about me when I wasn't here. This is

628
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 3: what you were talking about. It's all taken care of.

629
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 3: Let's move on that way.

630
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 4: I've never seen a big company that hasn't gotten sued.

631
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 4: Everybody gets.

632
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, big company, small companies.

633
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: It's part of the game. If you're going, you're gonna

634
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: get sued.

635
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: You got you gotta have a budget for that. That's

636
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: super important. It's going to happen. It's gonna happen.

637
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: To quote Lisa, nobody goes for the bottom, right, So

638
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: it's yeah, it does. And it's just but yeah, I

639
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 3: mean we've Lisa and I just kind of sit back

640
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: and we're like, okay, whatever next.

641
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean ticket as it comes. Were you

642
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: friends with some or all the husbands before you started filming?

643
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: Just Seth. So we Yeah, Lisa was introduced to Meredith

644
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: probably twelve or thirteen years ago. Okay, and so met Seth,

645
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: Like we go out to dinner. There's oldest son, Reed

646
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: who you sometimes see on the show, actually taught Jack

647
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: basketball for a couple of years, and and and Lisa

648
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: did Chloe's bought mitzvah and so you know, so we

649
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: go back with them. The other guys I met during

650
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: you know, during the process and everything.

651
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: So I have a two part question and the first

652
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: part is the most important, and that is how has

653
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: the show affected your your marriage good and bad? And

654
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: has a show affected your long term relationship with your

655
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: friends that you came on the show with? Has it

656
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: changed it at all?

657
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 3: M So with as far as like Lisa and I,

658
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: we're pretty much the same as you know, as we

659
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 3: were before the show. You know, we were both even

660
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: though it doesn't come across on the show both we're

661
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 3: both alpha. You know, we both want to be in charge,

662
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 3: even though you know with the show it's the housewives,

663
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 3: so you know, support our wives, and so you know

664
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: we're We would butt heads before the show was ever around.

665
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 3: We butt heads now. You know. We loved each other before,

666
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: we love each other now. It's I will say, it's

667
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 3: been interesting with the show because you guys can relate

668
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 3: to this one hundred percent too. It's a unique way

669
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 3: of documenting your life right with your kids, yeah, you

670
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 3: and your relationship. So not everybody can go on demand

671
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 3: from five years ago and say, oh my gosh, my

672
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 3: son was you know, eight years old and now he's

673
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 3: fourteen and see how it goes, or watch you know,

674
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: Lisa and I interact and so it's i'd say it's

675
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if I could. I don't know if

676
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 3: i'd say it's like strengthen it, but definitely hasn't weakened.

677
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: You know, we're, like I said, we're kind of still

678
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 3: We've we've been married over twenty years now and so

679
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 3: it's been through a lot. Well.

680
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: I always say that if you're a couple that goes

681
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: into a reality TV front platform and you have any

682
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: cracks in your relationship, it's going to show. You know,

683
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of time that those cracks get

684
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: bigger for because of the pressure of the TV and

685
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: the social media and everything that's coming at you. You know,

686
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: it's not a normal life. But if there's cracks in

687
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: there and you and you know, I mean, it's like

688
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: the typical statistics, more divorced housewives than not. You know,

689
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: I think we were just talking about this, said when

690
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: last time we had our guests and Beverly Hills, they're

691
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: all divorced, right.

692
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 3: That's true, that's I think what was that Kyle Marie

693
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: last one or maybe his greet and PK were the

694
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 3: last one standing.

695
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, divorce or in jail.

696
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: It's the separation. Yeah, and relate to that with our cast. Yeah. No,

697
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: and you know, friend wise, Seth and I are really good.

698
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 3: We went through you know, there was the hot mic

699
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 3: moment that Lisa's famous for. I think it was the

700
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 3: second season and where she kind of lost her ship

701
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 3: and they usut outside. Well, it was just a lot

702
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 3: of pressure, you know, you're talking about pressure just building up. Yeah,

703
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 3: and she felt that that Meredith wasn't kind of supporting

704
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: her the way that she was hoping because they came

705
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: on such good friends and everything. Yeah. And so Lisa,

706
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: because she didn't want to explode in front of the

707
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: group because they were on a trip, walked away from

708
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: the table, took off her mic, and went into her

709
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 3: room and just started yelling, you know, like at her pillow.

710
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 3: You know, like everybody does it, you know, like you

711
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 3: want to just put your face in the pillow and scream,

712
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: or you just went into a room and out out

713
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 3: let loose. It's just so happens that there's a production

714
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 3: team around you and they had a mic. They say,

715
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: they had a mic right outside the room. Yeah. And

716
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 3: so for the next year or so, things were a

717
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 3: little tense with Seth and I, but you know, we

718
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 3: it was kind of I don't know if you guys

719
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: did this, And it wasn't anything real formal but the

720
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 3: husbands when we started, you know, justin shreifuh, not really

721
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: Mary's husband, but me and Seth, you know, we kind

722
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 3: of had this understanding that we would never talk bad

723
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 3: about the wives or anything like that, Okay, and because

724
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 3: I never never fares well, yeah, and plus we don't

725
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 3: want to talk bad about them anyway. And so even

726
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 3: during that time, you know, Seth never really say anything

727
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 3: bad about Lisa, but it wasn't like we could really

728
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 3: you know, hang out. But everything's now water under the

729
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: bridge and you know, Lisa and Mereth are great, and

730
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 3: so you know, Seth and I will when he gets

731
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: in town, we'll go to dinner and stuff. I'm looking

732
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 3: forward to seeing him next week.

733
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: Also, tell me about your desire or lack of desire

734
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: to be part of the show. Did you ever feel like,

735
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: I mean, for me, for example, when the cameras are around,

736
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: I feel like I got to I gotta perform. I

737
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: gotta do some sort of dog and pony show because

738
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: there's a camera, you know, pointed at me, and I've

739
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: said some stupid things, which you know, thank god they

740
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: didn't make him on the air. But I just felt

741
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: this pressure. Did you ever feel this pressure like I

742
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 1: got to do something because of are up? Or were

743
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: you just.

744
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, more on the more on the you know, trying

745
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 3: and trying to maintain who I am, And it wasn't

746
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: so much pressure to do something, more pressure to not

747
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 3: do something, you know, like like not do the stupid things.

748
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 3: You know, I will say that before we started really filming,

749
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 3: I watched a couple of different franchises to see what

750
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: the husband's were like, kind of like, Okay, don't do that,

751
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 3: don't do that, don't do that. And so you know,

752
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: I try to I try to be me whether the

753
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: cameras are rolling or not, which I still have said

754
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: stupid things, and you know, it might not be about

755
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: anybody who might just be a conversation with Lisa and

756
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 3: I where a week later she's like, you're such a

757
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: dumb ass. Why would you say this or whatever, and

758
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, sorry, it wasn't you know, I'm not as

759
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 3: well trained.

760
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you watched Eddie's Eddie's bathtub scene, did you

761
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 4: say I'm not going to do that.

762
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 3: I actually watched it like ten or twenty times. That's

763
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: the benefit of you know, man, what nothing to do

764
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 3: on your first day of filming. Hey, I was taking notes.

765
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 3: You could say, how for whatever you want.

766
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,479
Speaker 1: I always like to say I'm a slow learner because

767
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: I do try to take in all variables before I

768
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: make a final judgment or decision. But I was a

769
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: slow learner until I figured it out. And I'm like, Okay,

770
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: I can't control this and I don't want to be

771
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: the six housewives, so I'm going to stay away. When

772
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: the ship hits the fan, I'm going to be standing

773
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: behind the cameras so they don't get my reaction. They

774
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 1: don't get me involved, and you know, it's just better

775
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: not to be involved. I did see a clip that

776
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: you guys attended the reunion with your wives. How was

777
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: that experience.

778
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 3: So they've had a set all but one or no, yeah,

779
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 3: all but one reunion okay, maybe two. Overall have been good.

780
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 3: Last year's was interesting because there was some lies perpetuated

781
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: during the reunion from one of the husbands, and so I,

782
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 3: you know, I did step in and I was like,

783
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: you know, watch how you're talking to my wife essentially, yeah,

784
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: and you know, essentially I was what I exactly said

785
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: was watch your tone. Yeah, and because again, like I said,

786
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 3: we shouldn't beat addressing anybody's wife in any derogatory way.

787
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: And you know so, but that was about it. It was,

788
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 3: you know, but the three's are they're interesting. I think

789
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 3: the best one that we had was when we weren't

790
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 3: didn't go on stage. It was Seth Justin and I

791
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 3: just like kicking back the whole day. I think we're

792
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 3: on Instagram live for like three hours.

793
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: That's cool, but I didn't realize. So you guys are

794
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 4: are on stage with the girls.

795
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 3: Yeah they Yeah, they've had us on stage for at

796
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 3: least I think it was yeah, three three of the

797
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 3: seasons or yeah, so far.

798
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 4: So do you get to charge for that since you're

799
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 4: on stage now, well.

800
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 3: You're giving a free yeah. Yeah. No, it's as you

801
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 3: guys know, husbands may not even minimum wage, so it's

802
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: were there to support.

803
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: It's free labor. And I'm not good with that. I

804
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: mean unless it's charitable, and this is hardly charitable.

805
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: Eddie. Have you ever done the finale?

806
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: I was just thinking that and when I want to

807
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: say no, because I just never wanted to be in

808
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: that situation. And because I'd love to see that, I'd

809
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: have to ask my wife because she has a better

810
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: memory than I have, But I'd have to ask her.

811
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: But when you know, when it came down to it,

812
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: you know, when you're not paying me to do anything,

813
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it. Right, this is bullshit.

814
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: And they did offer me. I do remember them offering

815
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: me a measately five thousand dollars or something stupid like

816
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: that to go, and I'm like no, and I said,

817
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: my number is fifty million dollars. And it's been fifteen

818
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: million dollars ever since.

819
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: And I John, I got.

820
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 4: I got to give you a lot of props because

821
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 4: that's one thing I probably wouldn't do.

822
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: Those girls are scary.

823
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like it is to get in the mix with,

824
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 4: because I mean it's it's open game at that point

825
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 4: once you get once you sit on that couch.

826
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well they they're pretty spray with the husbands.

827
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 3: They're pretty good with the husbands where it's not and

828
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 3: if if there's any shots fired at the husband's it's

829
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: usually because the husbands insert themselves. That makes sense. Yeah,

830
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 3: I make sure that I do not speak unless spoken

831
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 3: to and smart, and that's and that's by Andy. You know,

832
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 3: if Andy asked me a question, happy to answer if

833
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 3: anybody else does, It's like, I don't know if I'm

834
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: going to answer, yeah, and.

835
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: So well, I gotta I gotta give you guys props too,

836
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: because my wife obviously watches a lot of the shows

837
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: to report on the two teas in the PUD podcast,

838
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: and I mean, I don't know how she handles it,

839
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: because I would be killing myself watching all these different franchises.

840
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: But she has said that the Salt Lake City house

841
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: Wise really know how to do their job, meaning they

842
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: know how to how to perform, They know how to

843
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: get in a fight and then make up. Because I

844
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: guess that's really the premise of the show, right it's fight, makeup,

845
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: fight makeup, and and I think the audience loves to

846
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: see that. But what's been happening, which started in Jersey

847
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: and it's kind of made its way into Orange County,

848
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: is all these lies, these these fake stories that have

849
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: no merit to them.

850
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 4: You know.

851
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: It's like you have all these lies that potentially can

852
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: you know, hurt that person or that person's business. I mean,

853
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: let's go back to probably five or six years ago,

854
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: maybe seven years ago, there was this whole scene that

855
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: was perpetrated on the show, our show where they were

856
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: at Vicky's house and they were all collaborating. You know,

857
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: they can't get to Tama anymore, so they come after

858
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 1: me and they the acting was terrible, but they put

859
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: out there that, oh, I saw Eddie coming out of

860
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: a room with some guy, and oh, yeah, that's what

861
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: makes Eddie gay, right, and all these were false stories. Yeah,

862
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: that's just wrong.

863
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: You know.

864
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm all about calling people out on their bullshit. Like

865
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: my wife, she's really good at finding the bullshit and

866
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: everybody and she'll call you out. But she will never

867
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: make up false stories just to be relevant on the show.

868
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 3: Right.

869
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's happening on the Salt

870
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: Lake City, but I don't think that's right.

871
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I totally agree with you. I don't like that.

872
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 3: I don't like the gang ups that happens. And you know,

873
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 3: please tell Tama. You know, I appreciate her helping Lisa

874
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: walk off the ledge the last couple of weeks, because

875
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: you know, Lisa has been getting ganged up on a

876
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: bit and Tamra and her and Lisa we're messaging and

877
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 3: Term's like, I totally get it. You're fine, you know,

878
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: don't sweat it. And you know, even though Lisa, just

879
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 3: like you're both of your wives, they're very strong women,

880
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: they still it's still nice to have some you know,

881
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 3: someone saying you've got this, you know, outside of us. Yeah,

882
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 3: and so it's you know, make sure to tell her

883
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. You know. I can tell Lisa she's fine,

884
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 3: and Lisa will be like, you're full of shit. But

885
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 3: if camera said that, then she's like, Okay, that's gospel.

886
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: Well here's the question for both of you.

887
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 4: So, since I guess both both of your wives are

888
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 4: sort of having the same type of season as far

889
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 4: as getting attacked, what's the number one thing you guys

890
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 4: try to do for them when they're having a season

891
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 4: that that's like that.

892
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 3: Oh. Well, for me, which is I have not been

893
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: doing a good job of this year is listen and

894
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 3: not try and fix anything, because I will. In the past,

895
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: I've been a lot better at just listening and letting

896
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 3: Lisa get through everything, and but this year I've been like, no,

897
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 3: I think you should try and say this or this,

898
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 3: and she's like, it doesn't work. It doesn't work. She's like,

899
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 3: and you know, if you were talking with one of

900
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 3: your friends or someone at a job or something like that,

901
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: then it would work, but it doesn't work in this situation.

902
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 3: So every time, I'm like, just listen, let her talk,

903
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 3: and you know, don't try and fix anything.

904
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: And that's exactly the way to handle it, because for

905
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: the many years that we've been doing it, it's it's

906
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: been in the beginning, like you should have said this,

907
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: or you should try this, and I get the same answer, no,

908
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: it doesn't work that way on reality TV. And sometimes

909
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: I say, well, then why you're asking me.

910
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: Wrong?

911
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: Mistake, don't say that.

912
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 3: No, don't say that. No. I know a lot of

913
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 3: times I'll practice it. I'm like, do you want me

914
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 3: to listen or do you want feedback any type.

915
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 4: Of So that's really good, John, that's good advice there.

916
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 4: I think that's the problem with most men. I mean,

917
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 4: that was my problem with me was I was always

918
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 4: trying to fix things and sometimes they just want you

919
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 4: to listen.

920
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 2: They don't need you to fix it.

921
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: Now, one thing I learned, you know, and Edwin, I

922
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 1: know you're part of bo or YPO. But the rule

923
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: is is that you listen and you share your experience

924
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: if you have a similar experience. If you don't, you

925
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: shut the cup and you don't say anything.

926
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, you don't give advice to share your experience.

927
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, And and and that I think that's a solid

928
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: rule in all aspects of life, even from just a

929
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: friendship to family. If you have experience, you don't give advice.

930
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: You just share your experience because it might help or

931
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: it might just not be completely the same. And I can't.

932
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: I can honestly tell you I don't have the experience

933
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: my wife has on this show. She has to deal

934
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: with the toxicity of it all and navigate through all

935
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: of it almost by herself. And I think most of

936
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: the housewives are in those shoes, right, because you certainly

937
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: can't go to your coworkers and talk about it just

938
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: turn around and use it against you.

939
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. And we as husbands, it's not like we're

940
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 3: gonna go get in anybody's face.

941
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: No.

942
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 3: And I you know the crazy part too, is there

943
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: is there is negativity. And I think that's what just

944
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 3: in general in life. With the show and with Bravo,

945
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 3: there's a lot of positive stuff too, and so you know,

946
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 3: trying to kind of shift focus, as difficult as it is,

947
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: you know, onto some of the positives. I remember Lisa

948
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 3: the first season, and you guys can relate to this too,

949
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 3: you know, not knowing what it's like. You know, you

950
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 3: film with your wife, you film with your family, you

951
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 3: walk away, you're like, and Lisa and I were like,

952
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 3: we did it. Everybody's gonna love us. We're so cool.

953
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 3: And then you watch it and you see the ladies

954
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 3: like saying, oh, Lisa's a bitch or this or that,

955
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 3: and that first season Lisa would be it would take

956
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 3: like a day to recovery for her. But I told

957
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: her one day and this was she actually liked that.

958
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: I actually that I said this, And it's probably after

959
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 3: listening for quite a while, but I was like, because ideal,

960
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: I like sports, and I just kind of compared it

961
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 3: to the NBA. The NBA is a very elite group, right,

962
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 3: you have roughly thirty teams, fifteen guys per team out

963
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: of the whole world. Yeah, And so I told Lisa,

964
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, your group is even more elite than the NDA.

965
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, think about it. There's you know, ten franchises

966
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 3: and five to six ladies per franchise. I'm like, you

967
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 3: are special, and you know she it took her a

968
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 3: little bit, but she did take it in to where

969
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 3: she's like, Okay, I hit it and it helps, you know,

970
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 3: it helps me. You know, I guess shift the focus

971
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 3: from the negativity as hard as it is, but there

972
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 3: is a lot of good good stuff too.

973
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: In the beginning, I actually had my wife convinced. I

974
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: think I had my wife convinced that it's a business.

975
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: You go do your job and do a really good

976
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 1: job about it, come home, shut it off, and it's

977
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: call it a day. And I don't know where in

978
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: the in the journey, she became friends with one of

979
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: the housewives and she became like outside of the show

980
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: friends and I'm like, you're making a mistake. I don't know,

981
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: why are you doing this? And everything kind of changed

982
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: from then and she started taking things personal again. And

983
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: that was the whole premise behind calling it a business,

984
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: because you can't get emotional when it a business. Business

985
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: is business, and that's what it is. And it's when

986
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: you when you get hurt about this that's coming at

987
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: you on social media and the TV because like I

988
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: said earlier, it's all about the edit. It's it's how

989
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: they edit you, and watching the show in the beginning,

990
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: I like you, John. I was kind of studying the

991
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: guys and I'm like, yeah, you guys, you look like

992
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: a douchebag. Even though you're not doing anything. The camera

993
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: is very transparent and just watching you. So I don't

994
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,959
Speaker 1: consider myself a douchebag. I'm not perfect by any means,

995
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: but I'm definitely not a douchebag. So whatever the camera

996
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: portrayed for me, it's been kind of positive, I should say,

997
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: where I don't have skeletons in my closet or freaking cemetery.

998
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm not investigated by the FBI. I'm not going to jail.

999
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: You know, noether this is going to come out of me.

1000
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: But if you if you're if your final like a

1001
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: pin to me, is that I am boring, I'm okay

1002
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, that's okay, okay with that.

1003
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. I've had I've had comments where they're like John's

1004
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 3: just a doormat this and that, and I'm like, hey,

1005
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 3: you know what portray me is that if you want,

1006
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 3: I'm supporting my wife and I'm showing you that I

1007
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 3: support my wife, and what you see is me just saying, okay, dear,

1008
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 3: let's do that.

1009
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1010
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's safer and I'm happy that Edwin's

1011
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: the same way, like he learned pretty quick. Like I'm

1012
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: just going to sit back and not saying you know,

1013
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: and like you know some other husbands who like to

1014
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 1: get involved or boyfriends, I should say.

1015
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I I agree. I think I think overall too,

1016
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 3: I have all the husbands that I've met or boyfriends

1017
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 3: or whatever, it's all been really cool. I don't watch

1018
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 3: all of the franchises, so I don't know how they

1019
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 3: are on you know, on the show or anything like that,

1020
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 3: but I know there are some that like to get

1021
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 3: more involved and almost want to hold a snowflake or

1022
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 3: a peach or orange or whatever.

1023
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: That's true, that's so true. Tell us a little bit

1024
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: about your your life outside of filming, because, as as

1025
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: we all know on this podcast here, what you see

1026
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: on TV is not entirely the real life that we live.

1027
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's similar. I think there's a lot of

1028
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: components of it that, particularly the relationships when they're solid,

1029
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: they're solid. But what's your life like outside of filming.

1030
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: What do you guys like to do well?

1031
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 3: We we like to travel. We love we love Europe.

1032
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 3: I haven't been to London, Lisa's been there a couple

1033
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 3: of times. We love France. We've taken our boys to

1034
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 3: to France two or three times now. So traveling is

1035
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 3: a lot of fun. We we just like spending time

1036
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 3: with our kids too. Where does that might sound? You know,

1037
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 3: they might not want to spend time with us now,

1038
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 3: you know, we we we love being around our kids,

1039
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 3: and we know it's a short time time frame before

1040
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 3: they're going to be out of the house and everything,

1041
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 3: and so we liked doing that at least. And I

1042
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 3: just we will It's kind of funny, but and you

1043
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 3: might think it's cliche, but what you see on the

1044
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 3: show is real. We'll like drive and get cokes together.

1045
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 3: You know, we might be doing work in separate areas

1046
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 3: of the house, or I might be in the office

1047
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 3: or something like that, and she'll call and be like, hey,

1048
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 3: let's go get a coke. Yeah, So we'll just you know,

1049
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 3: go and go and drive and decompress and everything while

1050
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 3: getting a soda. And I'm trying to think, you know,

1051
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 3: I've been me personally. I don't know if you guys

1052
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 3: are into F one, but I've gotten into F one

1053
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 3: like crazy over the last like six months, and so

1054
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 3: I'm like watching races now and all that stuff.

1055
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 1: Did you see the movie?

1056
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 3: I have seen them. I love the movie.

1057
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: Actually that was an awesome movie. Yeah, it was long,

1058
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: but it was very well done.

1059
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 3: I highly recommend it that in the Netflix series Survived that. Yeah,

1060
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 3: so I our our good friend has our good friends.

1061
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 3: Their son is in F four now start to go

1062
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 3: and lives over in Europe and or in Italy, I

1063
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 3: should say. And he kept telling me, he's like, you

1064
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 3: got to watch Drive to Survive. Got to watch it.

1065
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 3: And after after going to see F one, I'm like, okay,

1066
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try it. I binged that for over like

1067
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 3: you know, however many, however long it took me, but yes,

1068
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 3: so f you know, and so I like that one.

1069
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 3: Lisa Lisa loves horseback riding, you know. So she's she's

1070
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 3: got a horse, so she loves to go ride and

1071
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 3: and that helps her relax. She I teas her about it,

1072
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 3: but she loves to like ground herself. Like I don't

1073
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 3: know if you guys are into this where your feet

1074
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 3: or fair feet are on the grass, and she will

1075
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 3: sit there and talk to the trees in our front

1076
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 3: yard and stuff like that.

1077
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: That is so therapeutic, and people don't understand how therapeutic

1078
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: that is. Even talking to animal most like a horse

1079
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: or even a cow. If you ever around big animals

1080
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: like that, I mean, and big animals like bears and

1081
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: tigers and lions because they'll eat you, but you know,

1082
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 1: docile animals. It's such an amazing feeling just to surround

1083
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,760
Speaker 1: yourself with nature. That's one of my favorite things about

1084
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: riding dirt bikes is that I find myself in very

1085
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: short time in the middle of nowhere with either surrounded

1086
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 1: by trees or desert or whatever, but you're just in nature.

1087
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: You're in the world, and it's so rejuvenating.

1088
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I liked. I used to mountain bike, which

1089
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 3: was great, but I haven't had time, so I like

1090
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 3: to go to the gym. That helps me, helps my

1091
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 3: mind get back to center. But yeah, I think I

1092
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 3: was interrupted you.

1093
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 4: I went sorry, I was gonna say last question before

1094
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 4: we let you go. John, By the way, the center

1095
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 4: of you has been amazing. Obviously, you've been on the

1096
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 4: season for six seasons and six seasons, right, this.

1097
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 3: Is the current one of season six.

1098
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, season six thought, was there ever a moment or

1099
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 4: moments that you wanted to quit or Lisa wanted to quit?

1100
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 4: And one of you had to talk to each other about,

1101
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 4: you know, just keep going continuing.

1102
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 3: On every season? Is that I think I think you

1103
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 3: want to quit more?

1104
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 2: You or Lisa?

1105
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know, well, I'd have to say Lisa because

1106
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 3: it's more about her. You know, she is like what

1107
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 3: you were saying, Eddie. You know, the wives deal with it.

1108
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 3: You know, we're we're background and so I can, you know,

1109
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 3: go to a party. When we go to a party

1110
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 3: to film, we as you guys are veterans too. You

1111
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 3: know you're not going to enjoy yourself, you know the wives,

1112
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 3: the wives know they're going to battle essentially. Yes, And

1113
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 3: what I've learned as a husband is I go with her.

1114
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 3: And at first I'd go do whatever I wanted, you know,

1115
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 3: I'd be talking with someone or whatever. Then and after

1116
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 3: a few different defense, I'm like, Okay, ship's going to

1117
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 3: go down. I've got to be within five feet to

1118
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 3: some to be there for Lisa. And so I think,

1119
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 3: you know, I'd have to say Lisa's wanted to. She's

1120
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 3: she never would, you know, because she she enjoys She

1121
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 3: really does enjoy it. As crazy as you guys can

1122
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 3: relate to, I'm sure as crazy as the casts are,

1123
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 3: you know, and they kind of hate each other. There

1124
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 3: are unique there's a unique bond between all of the

1125
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 3: ladies because nobody else is going through it. So, you know,

1126
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 3: I think, you know, at the end of the day,

1127
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 3: you know, Lisa would get up and if she doesn't

1128
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 3: let them, she'd still get up and beat the someone

1129
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 3: else that they were, you know, picking on or something,

1130
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 3: picking on one of the other ladies. And it's so

1131
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 3: you know, she would never she would never out right quit.

1132
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 3: But there are days that we're just like fuck this.

1133
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

1134
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 4: I always say, if you're not doing something big enough,

1135
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 4: you're not If you're not wanting to quit something, you're

1136
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 4: not doing something big enough. If you're doing something big enough,

1137
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 4: there's you're always going to want to quit at some point,

1138
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 4: even though you right, it's like in business too, like

1139
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 4: there's been so many times I'm just like playing that

1140
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 4: half am I doing this? Yeah, yeah, you know, And

1141
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,919
Speaker 4: if you're not wanting to quit, you're not doing anything big.

1142
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I appreciate you saying that. Is there have

1143
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 3: been days on multiple things where I'm just like, I'm done,

1144
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 3: let me go live on a bench. I don't care.

1145
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome.

1146
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 2: We had with you.

1147
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 3: Likewise, I flew by the way that Yeah like that.

1148
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 3: Hopefully I didn't talk too much or anything like that.

1149
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 3: And I hope Teddy's doing well. Also, Yeah, she's doing well.

1150
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 3: I had pieces cut out of my forehead everything, not

1151
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 3: not to the level that she's had to deal with.

1152
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm glad to hear that she's doing better.

1153
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I didn't. So you've also dealt with some

1154
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 2: melanoma before.

1155
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said, it was blind, but yeah I had.

1156
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 3: I was walking around the gym with this big patch

1157
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 3: on my forehead after they dug a hole. Yeah, it's

1158
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 3: hard to explain to people.

1159
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thank you so much for coming up and

1160
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: spending the time with us. We really appreciate getting to

1161
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: know you. I know our listeners are going to be

1162
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: very excited to get to know you. And uh, we'll

1163
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: see you next time.

1164
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Again, thank you very much for having me too soon.

1165
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: Thank you, John, you guys, good bye bye.