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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. I hope all of you had a great

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Speaker 1: long weekend if you were able to take Monday off.

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Speaker 1: We certainly want to thank everyone who allows us to

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Speaker 1: have the freedoms that we hold so dear, and we

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Speaker 1: know that that comes with a cost too many families

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Speaker 1: are able to spend some time honoring the sacrifices of

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Speaker 1: so many that have come before us as part of

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Speaker 1: your Memorial Day celebration and festivity. But we are excited

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Speaker 1: to be here with you after several days being away

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Speaker 1: and we have not spent Let's start off here, by

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Speaker 1: the way, we're going to be joined by Tim Scott,

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Speaker 1: Senator from South Carolina, who has announced that he is

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Speaker 1: running for president. He will join us at one o'clock Eastern.

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Speaker 1: That is the top of the next hour, almost exactly

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Speaker 1: one hour from now, so you can put that on

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Speaker 1: your horizon as we continue to talk with everyone who

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Speaker 1: both Democrat and republic and we've talked to RFK Junior. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is terrified to come on this program because

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Speaker 1: if he spent very much time talking with us at all,

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Speaker 1: it would demonstrate his clear dementia and the fact that

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Speaker 1: he is unable to do this job. But we will

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Speaker 1: talk to Tim Scott at one. We've got a lot

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Speaker 1: of different stories to dive into. Joe Manchin is down

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Speaker 1: twenty two points to Jim Justice in West Virginia. What

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Speaker 1: does that mean both for the Senate looking ahead to

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Speaker 1: next year, but also for potential a potentially a presidential run.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump has changed his position on Disney. We will

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Speaker 1: discuss Sam Ponder at ESPN is a bigot, according to

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Speaker 1: USA Today for believing that men should not be able

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Speaker 1: to compete against women. Lulu lamon which I feel like

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Speaker 1: I mispronounced all the time. But they have fired two

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Speaker 1: employees for calling the cops. But we begin with a

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Speaker 1: story that, frankly, we have not spent that much time on.

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Speaker 2: Just real quick calling the cops for stealing for people

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Speaker 2: stole and they called the cops and then they got

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Speaker 2: fired for calling the cops on the thieves.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Yes, which is emblematic of the world in which

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Speaker 1: as we move throughout the course of today's program. But

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Speaker 1: we haven't spent very much time talking about the debt

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Speaker 1: to get resolved, and it appears that it has gotten

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Speaker 1: resolved over the weekend. An agreement between Speaker Kevin McCarthy

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Speaker 3: There is so much in this as positive and measure

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Speaker 3: to all the other debt seelings. When Republicans had the presidency,

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Speaker 3: the Senate, and the House, did they ever cut spending. No,

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Speaker 3: they increased it. We were able to do this when

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Speaker 3: the President said he wasn't even going to talk to us.

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Speaker 3: This is really a step in the right direction. It

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Speaker 3: puts as a trajectory that's different. We put a statutory

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Speaker 3: cap on only spending one percent for the next six years,

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Speaker 3: so we let government grow but at a slower rate.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so Buck, it appears this is going to pass.

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Speaker 1: There are going to be upset members on the right

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Speaker 1: say is fairly significant in general is yes, it slows

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Speaker 1: the rate of growth, but it effectively takes us to

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Speaker 1: already five trillion dollars in debt, and at some point,

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Speaker 1: I think we just have to recognize that our national

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Speaker 1: debt is never going to get paid off. And I mean,

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Speaker 1: am I crazy buck? When you look at this like

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Speaker 1: it seems like we've just decided that the national debt

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Both Republicans and Democrats, I think you frame

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Speaker 1: it this way. This is probably the best deal you

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Speaker 1: theft that's going on, which is that the benefits that

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Speaker 2: This is just numbers, it's true. And then the debt

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Speaker 2: burden passes on to the younger generation now, which is

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Speaker 2: why you see a lot of people complaining, you know,

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Speaker 2: get out of student loan debt. There are structural things

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Speaker 2: in the economy that we accept because of politics, that

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Speaker 2: and what is ethical, I think, and that's why you

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Speaker 2: have both parties spending too much money. Bottom line, spend

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Speaker 2: too much money. I mean, what do we run the

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Speaker 2: debt up six trillion under Trump? Right?

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Speaker 4: I mean?

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Speaker 2: Trump great economy, no question about it. Economy was phenomenal

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Speaker 2: until the fourth year of COVID, of course, but then

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Speaker 2: we spend six trillion dollars. That's a big problem, and

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Speaker 2: it was a big problem also politically because then Biden

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Speaker 2: to spend five trillion more on top of that. Which

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Speaker 2: you realize is we are in a competition for which

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Speaker 2: political party can be a bigger version of Santa Claus

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Speaker 2: the free stuff for everybody, or the stuff that you

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Speaker 2: get more than you pay into it. And this just

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Speaker 2: puts us on a trajectory for eventual real financial hardship

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Speaker 2: as a country and even possibly ruination. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: look at the history of fiat currency. You look at

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Speaker 2: what inflation has done historically in different countries, and it

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Speaker 2: has caused economic collapse. But you know, I say this,

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Speaker 2: but a lot of people shake their heads and they'll say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's right. We need to do something about the debt.

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Speaker 2: And I say, all right, so we need to do

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Speaker 2: some means testing for social security, We need to raise

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Speaker 2: the retirement How dare you, sir, how dare. It's okay, fine,

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Speaker 2: this this is where we are. Everyone wants to pretend

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Speaker 2: they want to deal with this and it's a huge problem.

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Speaker 2: And then you talk about the only ways you could

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Speaker 2: realistically do Clay, we even this notion of automatic spending.

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Speaker 2: Think about this. This just means the politicians all get

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Speaker 2: to wash their hands of it. Oh sorry, that's the

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Speaker 2: automatic spending. Yeah, that's where seventy percent of the spending

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Speaker 2: is it three the three percent increase or something. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the numbers, the numbers don't even really matter because the

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Speaker 2: numbers are so insignificant. We are slightly limiting the increase

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Speaker 2: in the spending the federal government's going to do, which

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Speaker 2: is already way beyond our means. And we think that's

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Speaker 2: we think that's a victory. You know, this is taking

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Speaker 2: you can only have twelve.

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Speaker 1: The reality is when you refuse to look at social

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Speaker 1: Security or Medicare, and that seems to be the general

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Speaker 1: consensus of both political parties, then they're is no way

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Speaker 1: to balance the federal budget, and scarily, Buck What is

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Speaker 1: becoming the case is the debt on the national debt,

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Speaker 1: in other words, the interest that we have to pay

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Speaker 1: on our national debt, particularly as we're now talking about

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Speaker 1: going to start crowding out a lot of the discretionary

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Speaker 1: But I do think it's worth mentioning. The Tea Party

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Speaker 1: started because we hit ten trillion dollars in national debt.

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Speaker 1: That was in twenty ten. Since twenty ten, we have

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Speaker 1: added over twenty trillion dollars in national debt. That's the

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Speaker 1: last thirteen years, So we are adding over a trillion

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Speaker 1: it just feels like everyone is pretending that this doesn't

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Speaker 2: Look, you've got you've got Trump running ads saying Ronda

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Speaker 2: Santis wants to cut your Medicare, and you have Rondas

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Speaker 2: Santas saying I'm just look at the Republican primary. He's like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to touch your medicare because they both

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Speaker 2: again we could have there's some great minds on this issue.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember, oh gosh, well, even like my

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Speaker 2: There are a few other people I can think of,

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Speaker 2: Is the point something like a huge percentage, a huge

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Speaker 2: So there and there's very little, uh, you know, oversight quality.

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Speaker 1: Of life and that it's actually being gained there, right.

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Speaker 2: And how the building is actually being being done. And

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Speaker 2: There was a moment when the Republican Party seem to

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Speaker 2: to this. And as you point out, Clay, that was

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Speaker 2: twenty trillion dollars ago. Yeah, and you have to wonder

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Speaker 2: as well, if spending doesn't matter, why does inflation, you know,

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Speaker 2: just stink so much? Well, because spending does matter, If

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Speaker 2: debt doesn't matter, why not just spend endless amount of money.

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Speaker 2: This is very straightforward stuff. But we have a political

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Speaker 2: you get them too. You guys need to talk about

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Speaker 2: the debt ceiling. No, they're going to raise the debt ceiling.

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Speaker 2: Republicans are going to do a bare minimum. They're going

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Speaker 2: pack themselves in the back. Meanwhile, Democrats are going to

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Speaker 2: continue to use it as a spoil system. It doesn't change,

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Speaker 2: I think the first step is understanding where we are

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Speaker 2: the financial disaster hits. That's the plan right now, Republican Democrat.

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Speaker 2: No one wants to stop it. You try to stop it,

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Speaker 2: then what's the difference do you? How do we change this?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think we should have, unfortunately gone back

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Speaker 4: Thank you' all both for having me back. And it's

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Speaker 4: I think it's so important for me, the guy who's

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Speaker 1: Senator, you got called out. And I know this is

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Speaker 4: Well, I celebrate ice Cube's comments, so I did not

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Speaker 2: you could change that number, such as the Democrat coalition

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Speaker 4: I think my message enjoys popularity with conservatives who happened

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Speaker 4: The one place where I've seen the least application has

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Speaker 1: Now, Senator Tim Scott with US now he's running for president.

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Speaker 4: Unbelievable. I said it oftentimes around the country and I'll

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Speaker 1: I think that's one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 2: Senator Tim Scott appreciates you being with us, Sir. Good

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Speaker 4: Okay, God bless you all. Thank you for representing truth

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Speaker 1: I know it's now a lot of you kids are

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Speaker 1: end of last week. It is the holiday season. Many

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Speaker 1: all trume. So, as we are rolling through this program,

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Speaker 1: we have talked about the Walt Disney situation and the

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Speaker 1: fact that I believe Disney made an incredibly calculated error

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Speaker 1: to get involved in commenting on the flour to bill

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Speaker 1: that did not allow kindergarten, first second third graders to

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Speaker 1: be taught about sexuality related to which the Little Mermaid

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Speaker 1: Allive Action version came out this weekend. New York Times

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Speaker 1: said that they didn't enjoy the movie as much as

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Speaker 1: they otherwise would have because there was not enough kink

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Speaker 1: in that movie. Yes, Little Mermaid nineteen eighty nine cartoon,

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Speaker 1: not enough kink, Buck.

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Speaker 2: I legitimately don't even know what they think they're saying

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Speaker 2: with that. I can take some guesses, but I don't

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Speaker 2: even get what that's supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: It's super weird, and it just goes to the point

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Speaker 1: to be incredibly sexualized inside of your own schools, inside

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Speaker 1: of your own children's films. And so DeSantis has gone

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Speaker 1: to war with Disney. Now it's turned into a zoning

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Speaker 1: battle over Disney World, and we have talked about that

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Speaker 1: a lot. The biggest takeaway to me, Buck, is that

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Speaker 1: Disney is now one of the five most polarizing in America.

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Speaker 1: And if you're analyzing things and you're saying, Okay, they're

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Speaker 1: a business, they're doing whatever they think is best. Actually,

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Speaker 1: the data reflects that they have tanked in Republican support

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Speaker 1: have decided to get involved in state related political issues

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Speaker 1: with Governor Ron DeSantis. So Desantas has gone to war

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Speaker 1: with Disney. Interestingly, Buck, and I hadn't even seen this.

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Speaker 1: You told me about this off air. Trump ripped Ron

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Speaker 1: DeSantis as recently as was it Thursday? I believe he

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Speaker 1: put out a clip ripping Ron DeSantis. We played the

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Speaker 1: and came down on the side of defending Disney and saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: be going to war with Disney. Now Trump has come

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Speaker 1: out over Memorial Weekend and said, what buck this is.

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Speaker 2: From truth social Donald Trump's account, Disney has become a

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Speaker 2: actually hating it. Must go back to what it once

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Speaker 2: was or the market will do irreparable damage. This all

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Speaker 2: it long ago. It would have been easy to do

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Speaker 2: it still is, okay.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 2: Now he is joining with the Disney as woke and

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Speaker 2: needs to be stopped. He's saying it's DeSantis's fault that

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Speaker 2: this happened, and DeSantis could have easily stopped it. But

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Speaker 2: the way that DeSantis is trying to stop it. On third,

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Speaker 2: can we get that audio of the Trump statement just

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Speaker 2: soever and can hear exactly what we're talking about? You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm at the point where with some of this stuff,

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Speaker 2: I would just want to know. Okay, so what exactly

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Speaker 2: is the position, because this seems to be multiple positions

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Speaker 2: least when you add it to what was said. This

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Speaker 2: which I believe you're right. I think we played it

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Speaker 2: on Thursday. But so Trump now agrees Disney is woke

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Speaker 2: in disgusting. Okay, so they're aligned on that. He says

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Speaker 2: on that this all happened during the governorship of Rob

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Speaker 2: de sanctimonious. I don't think Disney went woke in the

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Speaker 2: last four years. I don't think that's fair. But if

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Speaker 2: someone disagrees, by all means, call in. Let us know

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Speaker 2: that Disney was very conservative or traditional in its values

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Speaker 2: and change. But he should have stopped it long ago.

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Speaker 2: So now it feels like the criticism is that he

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Speaker 2: he shouldn't be taking action against Disney in Florida. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure if I have that right, but I think

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Speaker 2: that's what it is saying. So on Thursday, and we'll

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Speaker 1: The twenty fifth of May, Trump said that DeSantis was

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Speaker 1: attacked Disney. On Sunday, the twenty eighth, Trump comes out

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Speaker 1: and says, actually, Disney is gone super woke and DeSantis

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Speaker 1: hasn't done enough to fight back against Disney. So again,

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Speaker 1: just to make this clear, Thursday, DeSantis, this is Trump's

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Speaker 1: and I both said, yeah, we disagree, and I laid

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Speaker 1: out why I think I wouldn't change anything. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't change anything DeSantis has done against Disney. So

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Speaker 1: Thursday and Sunday, somebody shared polling with Trump which showed

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Speaker 1: that what DeSantis is doing on Disney is very popular

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Speaker 1: with Republican primary voters. Because we don't want more kink

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Speaker 1: in the Little Mermaid, and we don't want I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you saw this, and a lot of our listeners I'm

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Speaker 1: sure did as well. We don't want men dressing up

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Speaker 1: as princesses at disney Land in California pretending to be

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Speaker 1: women talking to young children. That isn't appropriate in most

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Speaker 1: of our minds. We want Disney to be as Trump said,

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Speaker 1: the Disney that it was for most of our youth

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Speaker 1: in the eighties and in the nineties before Disney went

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Speaker 1: crazy and buck. What I have said here is I

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Speaker 1: saw all this happen. So I saw it happen at ESPN,

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Speaker 1: where Disney owned ESPN lost its mind and went super

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Speaker 1: woke with sports, and now they're doing the same thing

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Speaker 1: with the larger cultural aspects of Disney. But why would

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Speaker 1: other than Trump being told, hey, Republicans disagree with the

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Speaker 1: woke Disney concept, why would he totally change his tune. Now,

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Speaker 1: I think he's in the right place here, so I

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Speaker 1: give him credit for getting to the right place. But

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Speaker 1: this is one of those things where we said Trump

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Speaker 1: was running to the left of DeSantis, and the fact

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Speaker 1: that this was ever a situation where you would say, hey,

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Speaker 1: Disney did the right thing and now people are going

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Speaker 1: to lose their jobs. This was a miscalculation by Trump.

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Speaker 1: And to be fair, DeSantis is getting ripped by corporatists,

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Speaker 1: by big business for actually attacking Disney, but the base

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Speaker 1: of the Republican Party agrees with him on this attack.

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Speaker 1: And so this to me is an intriguing aspect that

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Speaker 1: Trump would effectively flip flop in the space of three

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Speaker 1: days on Disney.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like to see if we could play

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Speaker 2: just so everyone can have the full context. Team let

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Speaker 2: us know when we have the statement that Trump put

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Speaker 2: out from last week on this. But it is interesting

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Speaker 2: to see that what because on social media, for sure,

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Speaker 2: there were a couple of days where there were Trump

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Speaker 2: surrogates saying the fight with Disney is foolish and stupid

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Speaker 2: and costing money and jobs, and then a couple of

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Speaker 2: days later it's ono, Disney's actually woke and need and

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Speaker 2: it needed to be stopped sooner. So that's a change

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Speaker 2: in That's a change in in directions, I guess you

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Speaker 2: could say. And I think that what we're going to

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Speaker 2: be looking for here is, Yeah, people are going to

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Speaker 2: take different positions. This will all evolve as the campaigns

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Speaker 2: move along, but at least clarity we can't necessarily these

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Speaker 2: are politicians, right, Consistency isn't going to happen, but clarity

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Speaker 2: would be good to have an understanding of where the

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Speaker 2: different candidates start. I was interested to see that Trump said,

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Speaker 2: I think you just put this out today that on

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Speaker 2: day one he'll sign an executive order to end birthright

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Speaker 2: citizenship for those who are born here. And this goes

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Speaker 2: there's a whole big discussion, a bunch of you know

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Speaker 2: things you have to get involved here on and you know,

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Speaker 2: subject to the jurisdiction thereof, and the anchor baby situation.

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Speaker 2: And this has never really been tested all the way

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Speaker 2: up to the Supreme Court, but it does clearly show

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Speaker 2: clay when you see that we have rules against people

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Speaker 2: coming here, let's say, from China, having a baby here

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Speaker 2: on purpose, and then going back to China, and now

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Speaker 2: they claim, oh, that's American citizenship. Here's the here's the

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Speaker 2: you know, what do you call birth certificate of the

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Speaker 2: birth in California. Oh, okay, we'll get back to the

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Speaker 2: end of birthright citizenship, which is a I think he's

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Speaker 2: this is a big, big fight that would be had,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's going to be a part of

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Speaker 2: the immigration discussion in a way that it needs to be.

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Speaker 2: But here is the Trump clip from what last week

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Speaker 2: on Thursday.

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Speaker 5: Play it when the Rhonda sanctimonious facts come out, you

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Speaker 5: will see that he's better than most Democrat governors, but

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Speaker 5: very average at best, compared to Republican governors who have

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Speaker 5: done a fantastic job.

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Speaker 2: And look at Disney and what a miss it is.

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Speaker 5: Could have worked out an easy settlement, but no, he

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Speaker 5: wanted to show the fake news how tough a guy

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Speaker 5: he is. He's not, and the whole Disney thing is

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Speaker 5: really very unfortunate. Now thousands and thousands of jobs are

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Speaker 5: being stopped and a lot of people are very upset

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Speaker 5: about it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so last week it was the Disney fight is

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Speaker 2: very unfortunate. People are losing jobs, and now as of

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Speaker 2: what was it two days ago, it's he should have

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Speaker 2: fought Disney sooner on this issue because it's so woke

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Speaker 2: and horrible and disgusting. So I'm just that's where we are.

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Speaker 1: In two days. He argued three days the exact opposite

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Speaker 1: of his attack. So and to your point, Buck, there

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Speaker 1: are also people running around because we came on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, this is a bad line

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Speaker 1: of attack. So I give credit to Trump for changing

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Speaker 1: his position, because I pivoting.

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Speaker 2: Is the right move. You know, I think we're allowed

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in the space of seventy two hours, he went

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Speaker 1: from DeSantis has screwed up Disney and it's very unfortunate

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Speaker 1: to Disney as a disaster. And Ron DeSantis should have

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Speaker 1: done way more. So he did too much on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and on Sunday he didn't do enough. Now Trump has

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Speaker 1: gotten to the right place on Disney. But why was

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Speaker 1: he levying the attack and now the attack? It's just

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Speaker 1: this is this is the bull in a china shop

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Speaker 1: of Trump that frustrates me. I mean candidly with everybody

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Speaker 1: out there. Trump often gets to the right result, but

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Speaker 1: Now we'll come back and talk about this birthright citizenship,

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Speaker 1: because I think this is actually the right position for Trump.

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Speaker 1: In fact, in my book, I argue that if we're

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Speaker 1: ever going to fix immigration in this country, we have

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Speaker 1: I think, but buck the idea that if you have

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Speaker 1: a child in the United States, your child becomes a

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Speaker 2: And also we're talking about people who are in the

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Speaker 2: country often illegally. Illegally. Yeah, so you're here in violation

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Speaker 2: of the US law, you have a child, that a

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Speaker 2: if it's wrong for someone from China to Chinese national

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.

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Speaker 2: So I just told you the story of a personal

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Speaker 2: trainer fired from an Equinox gym in New York City,

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Speaker 2: claiming that a white subordinate co worker, a white male,

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Speaker 2: said things that she found bigoted or racist of out

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Speaker 2: late enough that she certainly could have been terminated on

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Speaker 2: that grounds alone, but she instead got eleven million dollars.

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Speaker 2: And I sit here and I say, and Clay's telling me, well,

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Speaker 2: Some of you may recall this was back in November

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty two that a black female FedEx supervisor,

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Speaker 2: a supervisor at the FedEx company, won a Did you

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Speaker 2: hear about this, Clay three hundred and sixty six million

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Speaker 2: dollar jury award in a case where there was supposedly

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Speaker 2: racial bias. It's fascinating whenever I read through these news

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Speaker 2: reports on the racial bias.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking for, you know, oh man, where what is

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Speaker 2: this stuff? Where are the grotesque racist, you know, really

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Speaker 2: degrading thing that we could all sit there and say, well,

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Speaker 2: that is appalling and the companies shouldn't be held three

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty six million dollars is crazy, But you know,

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Speaker 2: there should be an award here, and it's always I

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Speaker 2: didn't think, you know, in this case, it's I didn't

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Speaker 2: think I got promoted when I should have been, and

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Speaker 2: I think there was discrimination against me. I've seen nothing

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Speaker 2: in this case in now, granted I've only done a

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Speaker 2: quick read of it in the last few minutes, but

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Speaker 2: nothing to justify a three million dollar settlement, never mind

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Speaker 2: a three hundred and sixty six million dollars. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think three hundred and sixty six

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Speaker 2: million dollars a lot of money. And I think what

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Speaker 2: you're starting to see is people might recognize that this stuff,

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Speaker 2: all this all has costs and consequences. You know, you're

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Speaker 2: when when you're gonna get people getting three hundred million

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Speaker 2: dollar verdicts or even ten million dollar verdicts, that expense

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Speaker 2: is not just coming from you know, up in the air,

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Speaker 2: the ether or whatever. These are companies Now they're going

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Speaker 2: to have to be paying out this this money. Now,

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Speaker 2: sometimes it's covered by insurance, but their insurance rates go up.

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Speaker 2: What happens then you're gonna be paying more for your

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Speaker 2: gym membership, you gonna be paying more for FedEx if

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Speaker 2: these kinds of verdicts become the norm, which I think

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Speaker 2: you're starting to see. This is getting way out of

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Speaker 2: control of the New York Times, to be clear, is

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Speaker 2: celebrating the eleven million dollars verdict. I think this is great.

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Speaker 2: Eleven million dollars for somebody who says she heard some

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Speaker 2: things she didn't like at work. And I sit here

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Speaker 2: and I say, when do we get to point out

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Speaker 2: that this is that there are certainly instances of this

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Speaker 2: where it's just people looking for a massive payday, or

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Speaker 2: it's people who are using the you know, the racial

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Speaker 2: guilt in this country and the terror that companies have

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Speaker 2: of being considered racist for a second, to just absolutely

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Speaker 2: ring the cash register as much as possible. Most of

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Speaker 2: the time buck these cases will get tossed on appeal

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Speaker 2: the verdicts, because that's why I was pointing out, Let's

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Speaker 2: say this woman's making one hundred thousand dollars a year. Okay,

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Speaker 2: she got one hundred years of salary because according to her,

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Speaker 2: some people at her employer said mean things about her.

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Speaker 2: So usually again Usually there.

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Speaker 1: Would be the plaintiff lawyer and the defense attorney would

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Speaker 1: sit down and say, Okay, like this number is totally

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Speaker 1: out of whack, we'll give you two and a half

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Speaker 1: million dollar settlement, or we're going to appeal this and

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Speaker 1: your client's going to lose most of this verdict. Right

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Speaker 1: because again, under a lot of different law oftentimes I

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Speaker 1: don't know, the three hundred million dollar verdict is probably

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Speaker 1: wildly outside of what a jury could deliver in those cases. Now,

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Speaker 1: as an attorney, I represented a lot of big companies

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Speaker 1: in the US visin I.

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Speaker 2: Can I tell you what was not They took it

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Speaker 2: to court clay to get it over, They took it

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Speaker 2: to appeal. You know what happened to appeal maintained? Where

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Speaker 2: is the case from US District Court of the Southern

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Speaker 2: District of Texas.

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Speaker 1: So usually, again, sometimes you have to go all the

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Speaker 1: way to the Supreme Court to get some of these

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Speaker 1: cases tossed out. I'm not an expert in that particular case.

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Speaker 1: There has to be in order for a verdict to

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Speaker 1: be applied, some sort of mathematical connection that typically would

866
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Speaker 1: allow it to occur. So most of these massive verdicts

867
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Speaker 1: that you see that are plaintif involved. I'm not talking

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Speaker 1: about a massive lawsuit, right. Sometimes you have these class

869
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: action lawsuits where you know, theoretically a million people could

870
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Speaker 1: each make eighty dollars if they filled out the form

871
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Speaker 1: and turned it back in. And really it's the lawyers

872
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Speaker 1: who are ending up as the biggest beneficiaries here because

873
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Speaker 1: they get thirty or thirty five percent of a contingency fee.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt that our court system is oftentimes strangled

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Speaker 1: by unnecessary litigation. And an easy way to think about

876
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Speaker 1: this is, if Buck, we had half of the truck

877
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Speaker 1: drivers that we have in this country, our entire economy

878
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Speaker 1: would collapse. Think about it. If we had half of

879
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: the warriors, everything would be fine. Right, So sometimes you

880
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: can look around and you could probably say if we

881
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Speaker 1: had a quarter of the lawyers, everything would be fine,

882
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: because there is a tax that is being created by

883
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Speaker 1: the legal profession in this country that does not make

884
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Speaker 1: the country more efficient than it otherwise would be by

885
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Speaker 1: many lawyers often filing unscrupulous lawsuits that are unnecessary and

886
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Speaker 1: actually make things worse for the vast majority of the country.

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Speaker 2: So jurors awarded Harris the a female you know a

888
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Speaker 2: plaintiff in this case one point one six million dollars

889
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Speaker 2: in compensatory damages. All right, I mean, you know, if

890
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Speaker 2: maybe there was something that people's maybe there, she wasn't

891
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Speaker 2: you know, fairly she's making like again eighty to one

892
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Speaker 2: hundred grand a year you give, or ten years of wages. Okay, okay.

893
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Speaker 2: They worded a million dollars in compensory damages and three

894
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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five million dollars in punitive damages. Yeah.

895
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Speaker 2: Now you'd say, and to your point, I think that

896
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Speaker 2: there's like a faith here that you and I would

897
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Speaker 2: both have in the system that say, ah, come on. Well.

898
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Speaker 2: The update that story was in November. The update as

899
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Speaker 2: a February third of this year was a Fifth Circuit

900
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Speaker 2: judge rejected FedEx's request to throw out or reduce the

901
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Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty six million dollars in damages. So

902
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Speaker 2: it made it to the appeal and the appeals court

903
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Speaker 2: guy was like, nah, sorry, So I don't know if.

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Speaker 1: They The way that typically this would work is it

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Speaker 1: was a district court verdict in Texas. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the law is in the state

907
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Speaker 1: of Texas on punitive damages. I bet we have geniuses

908
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: who are experts on this. Typically you could not reward

909
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: a three hundred x punitive damage on top of a

910
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: one million dollar verdict. Generally speaking, sometimes buck what you

911
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: have to do, and this gets into the legal technicalities.

912
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Speaker 1: Sometimes you get a bad judge right on the Fifth Circuit.

913
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Speaker 1: You might get I don't know who that judge is,

914
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Speaker 1: but my bet would be that he would have been

915
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Speaker 1: a Democrat appointee on the Fifth Circuit, which is traditionally

916
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Speaker 1: a conservative court in the country, and so you get

917
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Speaker 1: a hearing in front of one and you have to

918
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Speaker 1: require that the entire Fifth Circuit review, right.

919
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Speaker 2: So I mean it's it's look, it's making its way

920
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Speaker 2: up the chain. But I just think it's interesting that

921
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Speaker 2: this is the the initial three sixty six million. They

922
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Speaker 2: went to a district court judge, a federal judge and said, hey, guys,

923
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Speaker 2: the three hundred and sixty six million for discrimination that

924
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Speaker 2: was apparently never proven, there's no Yeah. The basis for

925
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Speaker 2: this is her perception that she was discriminated against. U's

926
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Speaker 2: a she was a black woman who says that they

927
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Speaker 2: treated her differently because she's a black woman, and the

928
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Speaker 2: judge said no, we're going to keep it. So now

929
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Speaker 2: they're going to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals to

930
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Speaker 2: elevate it beyond the initial federal district juge. But Clay,

931
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Speaker 2: who is this initial disjudge like, this is this is

932
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Speaker 2: crazy town?

933
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Speaker 1: Yeah it is. And I would bet again that it's

934
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Speaker 1: almost entirely unjustifiable under Texas law because a lot of

935
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Speaker 1: states have tried to put caps on punitive damages and

936
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Speaker 1: damages in general, because what ends up happening in many

937
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: of these tort lawsuits is this is a default tax

938
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Speaker 1: on all of the citizens of Texas because the corporation

939
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Speaker 1: has to in some way count on all these dollars

940
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Speaker 1: that otherwise would go to running their business going out

941
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Speaker 1: to people with unjustified payments. And that's exactly what I'm

942
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Speaker 1: what I'm trying to get at here is this isn't

943
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Speaker 1: the juris think, oh, great, we're striking a blow against racism,

944
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Speaker 1: even if no racism was proved.

945
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Speaker 2: You know, it makes a point or something, and this

946
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Speaker 2: woman then gets very rich. Yay, people might get fired

947
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Speaker 2: over this, you know, I mean, you know, you look

948
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Speaker 2: at what happened. Now, it's very different. Not a racial

949
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 2: discrimination suit. But even the dominion law law suit at Fox,

950
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Speaker 2: they had layoffs recently. Now they can say that it

951
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with the eight hundred million dollars settlement,

952
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: But people lost their jobs. When you have a huge

953
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 2: judgment against the company, they have to cut costs. People

954
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 2: are going to get fired. So if you're bringing a

955
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Speaker 2: frivolous or false racial discrimination suit and getting a massive judgment,

956
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Speaker 2: there are good people that get hurt by that, and

957
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: the consumer certainly gets hurt. To your point about effectively

958
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Speaker 2: socializing these costs, which we're seeing in a whole range

959
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Speaker 2: of ways.

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Speaker 1: Well, and not only that, Buck, I mean if you

961
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Speaker 1: think in a bigger picture as opposed to one individual,

962
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Speaker 1: which is again that dollar figure would be entirely unjustified.

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Speaker 1: Also many of the people who lose their jobs or minorities.

964
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Speaker 1: You know, if a company has to retrench and end

965
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Speaker 1: up laying off lots of workers, then you're trying to

966
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Speaker 1: rectify injustice by in some way actually taking out more

967
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Speaker 1: of an issue on minorities to reward one right. And this,

968
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Speaker 1: of course is the great fallacy of BLM in general.

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Speaker 1: The biggest, the biggest losers of all of BLM are

970
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: impoverished people in inner city neighborhoods who can't walk outside

971
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Speaker 1: safely because they fired all the cops in the name

972
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Speaker 1: of trying to make the world less racist.

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Speaker 2: It's also just it requires a total suspension of the

974
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Speaker 2: reality that we all live in in this country where

975
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Speaker 2: in ninety nine percent of corporate settings and circumstances, what's

976
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Speaker 2: the fastest way to get fired, right, the fastest way

977
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Speaker 2: to get fired say something racist. No matter what company,

978
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Speaker 2: no matter what business, no matter where you are, what

979
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Speaker 2: you're doing, the fastest way to lose your job is

980
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Speaker 2: to say something racist. And yet we're to believe that

981
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Speaker 2: in these cases there was all of this, you know,

982
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Speaker 2: grotesque racism underway that no one can prove, and no

983
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Speaker 2: one knew about, no one heard about. But look, it's

984
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Speaker 2: because there's going to be more of this, I mean, Clay,

985
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 2: it's from the attorney side of it too, right, eleven

986
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 2: million dollars here, three hundred million dollars starts to add

987
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Speaker 2: up those legal fees, you know, And this is where.

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Speaker 1: Can you think it's a good question for everybody else

989
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: out there? How many professions could you eliminate half of

990
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 1: the people doing it and actually make the world better.

991
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 1: You could eliminate half of attorneys and America would work

992
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: just as efficiently and effectively as it does now. How

993
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: many professions can you say that about? Just think about it,

994
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: and a lot of them that don't pay very well.

995
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: The country would basically cease to exist, right, I mean,

996
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: if you took away half of the people who work

997
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: at gas stations, we'd have a real issue. Right, take

998
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: away half the lawyers. Country might be better off.

999
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Speaker 2: You know, the other week I got to do an

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Speaker 2: extraordinary thing. I sat down with a market analyst who

1001
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Speaker 2: made a special video of presentation. But the market analyst

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Speaker 2: is somebody I know very well. It's my dad, Mason Sexton,

1003
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Speaker 2: so you probably recognized the last name. We talked about

1004
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Speaker 2: a premise that's very important to him, the great disruption

1005
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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty three. Look in the past, he predicted

1006
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Speaker 2: the stock market crash of eighty seven, that's off of

1007
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Speaker 2: the market. Before the crash. He's made several major calls publicly,

1008
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Speaker 2: but what he sees now is unlike anything he's seen

1009
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Speaker 2: in fifty years of Wall Street experience. You can read

1010
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Speaker 2: off on it now so you'll know how to prepare.

1011
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 2: In this interview, he reveals the date this July, when

1012
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 2: he thinks things are going to turn really ugly in

1013
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: the markets. We're already starting to see the signs of disruption.

1014
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 2: Banks floundering, real estate losing its value at a rapid rate,

1015
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Speaker 2: inflation causing sticker shock at the grocery store. My dad

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Speaker 2: Mason will tell you why most analysts are wrong about

1017
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Speaker 2: a coming decade in lost stocks or lost decade rather

1018
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Speaker 2: than stocks, and why what's coming could be much much worse.

1019
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,479
Speaker 2: This is his first major public prediction in thirty years,

1020
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Speaker 2: so if you missed it, the video is still up

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Speaker 2: you can watch now watch the replay at Disruption twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three dot com. That's Disruption twenty twenty three dot com.

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Speaker 1: Sunday, Hang with Clay and Fucking A new podcast. Find

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