WEBVTT - Second Date Update: Timing is Everything

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<v Speaker 1>Second date of today, we got an email from one

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<v Speaker 1>of our listeners name Michelle. She says her date was

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<v Speaker 1>going pretty normal until it ended extremely weird, and now

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't know what to think. She didn't get into

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<v Speaker 1>specifically what was weird about the ending, but I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 1>probably towards the end of the night the conversation went

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<v Speaker 1>to the Mount owen Moa. What what did you just say?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big flightless bird that once roam New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 1>At least that's where my mind goes when I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>a weird date, the now owen Moa. Is that what

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<v Speaker 1>happened Michelle? Talking about birds? No, not birds exactly, but

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey is so obsessed with birds, like everything, not just

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<v Speaker 1>any bird. It's the Mount o Moa. It's just all awkward.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to give it credit. Okay, Sorry, Michelle, but

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<v Speaker 1>we all learned something just now, So that's good. Was

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<v Speaker 1>your date weirder and ending than that was? It was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely strange and I'm not really sure what happened. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>before we get to what was weird, what's the guy's name?

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<v Speaker 1>His name is Dylan? Okay, and where'd you meet Dylan?

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<v Speaker 1>I meant him on a dating app. What stood out

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<v Speaker 1>about him? He seemed really fit. Yeah, like seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>he was like an active guy and like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in like good shape, not like beefy or anything. But

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<v Speaker 1>you say that in Jose's just really jealous that I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>It has nothing to do with your date. So, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's kind of important because you're attracted off people's

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<v Speaker 1>look right away, you know, the only thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>also noticed that I was attracted to other than his apps,

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<v Speaker 1>which we're we're looking at. He was texting like really

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<v Speaker 1>funny and he said, oh, you know, this is where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to drop a corny line, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>sent me a bunch of corn emoji. So what did

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<v Speaker 1>you guys end up doing on your date? Um, we

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<v Speaker 1>just met at like a local casual bar just to

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<v Speaker 1>like talk over a beer had protein powder in it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you guys are both the whole time. No, not

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<v Speaker 1>that right. So how did it go? Oh, it was

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of a normal date. You know, we're just

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out talking about normal stuff, Okay, And I mean

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<v Speaker 1>during it, because you can always tell whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>you even want to go out with this person again,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you feeling? Yeah, I mean He seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>a really nice guy. It seemed like we had some

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in common. I like rock climbing, like going to

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<v Speaker 1>the bouldering gym, and he had also done some of that,

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<v Speaker 1>so we were bonding over that and that was really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So right, Yeah, I mean, I guess I was interested

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<v Speaker 1>in him for sure. So when did the date get weird?

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<v Speaker 1>So we were just sitting there talking and hanging out,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, he looked at his

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<v Speaker 1>watch and he made this weird face and then so

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<v Speaker 1>that he had to go, that he forgot he had

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<v Speaker 1>something important to do, and he's so sorry, and then

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<v Speaker 1>just like got up and left. Did he have a

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<v Speaker 1>smart watch where he was reading text messages on his watch? No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>that would make sense. He just had like a regular

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<v Speaker 1>old watch. It's like, oh, this is the time I'm

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<v Speaker 1>to turn into a pumpkin. I must rush exactly, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you awareabole or what's happening here? That's weird that

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<v Speaker 1>he would schedule something in the middle of a date too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know if he had something actually scheduled.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't really explain or say anything. And we hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>even hung out an hour you know, so none of

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<v Speaker 1>this made sense. So did you? I mean, do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it was something about you that all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden he was repulsed by and he had to

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<v Speaker 1>run from the bar? Oh? Yeah, that's immediately where Brooks's

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<v Speaker 1>mind goes that there's clearly something wrong with you. Michelle. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we were vibing, so I don't I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing that came to my mind was that

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<v Speaker 1>he had another date. Oh that he like double booked himself. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe at Dude with chiseled abs. Yeah, that's what happened. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not bitter over here at all. Don't worry go

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<v Speaker 1>with the chubby guy. He would never ditch it night exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And he wants to eat. Yeah, he's gonna stay hilarious. So, Michelle,

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<v Speaker 1>have you reached out to him after your date? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I texted him a couple of times, just saying like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>is everything good? And he wrote me back and said like,

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<v Speaker 1>everything's all good. But you know, I asked if we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to try and meet up again and have like

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<v Speaker 1>a more proper date, and he never brought me back.

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<v Speaker 1>He never wrote back. Yeah. Yeah, I mean he's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>not into you, but who knows why, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>talking about? Why? He's obviously not into you. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I guess we'll try and get a date

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<v Speaker 1>from your Sadly, what side points? Did he likes you?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not trying to be a jerk, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's just the reality of dating. Wow, okay, Michelle, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're wonderful by the way. You're wonderful and you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're amazing at dating. And what we're gonna do right

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<v Speaker 1>here is we're gonna call Dylan and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>find out all the amazing reasons that he should go

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<v Speaker 1>out with you again. Oh yeah, we're also going to

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<v Speaker 1>discover why he doesn't like you. So come on, you're

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<v Speaker 1>good with that, right, We're going to change our attitude,

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<v Speaker 1>play a song, and come back and get your second

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<v Speaker 1>date of it? All right, totally thank you. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>just tuning in for the second date update, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Michelle right now. She went out with a guy

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<v Speaker 1>named Dylan, and Dylan's handsome, he's fit, he's funny, he's charming. Dylan.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait is this me? No? Oh sorry, I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at my bio on the radio website. That's my bad. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that is so cute. No, Dylan's weird. Dylan's a weirdo.

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<v Speaker 1>Other than being super toned and having nice abs, we

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<v Speaker 1>have absolutely nothing in common. But apparently him and Michelle

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<v Speaker 1>went out to a bar. They had a few drinks together,

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<v Speaker 1>and at one point Dylan checked his watch and looked

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<v Speaker 1>surprised and suddenly told her that he had to go.

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<v Speaker 1>No explanation beyond that, and so she's been having a

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<v Speaker 1>hard time reaching him ever since. Then, Michelle, are you

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<v Speaker 1>ready for this? I'm ready for this. Yeah, you better be,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm gonna tell you he's gonna drop the hammer.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. But I know that you've been racking your

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<v Speaker 1>brain because there's not a woman alive that doesn't overanalyze

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<v Speaker 1>every second of a date. Oh can you think of

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<v Speaker 1>anything you said that would make him feel like he

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<v Speaker 1>had to run? Well, I'm just saying, like, did she

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<v Speaker 1>bring up marriage? She dropped the elbomb? Where are you at? No,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't talk about any kind of like past relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>We only talked about positive things. But I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe has like a medication he forgot to take.

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<v Speaker 1>I really have no idea. All right, I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's blame him for once. Yes, let's try that. All right. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna call Dylan now and we're going to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out once and for all what his deal is. Okay, yeah, great, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna Dallas phone number right now. Here we go. Hello, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>can I speak to Dylan please? This is he Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is young Jeffrey from brook and Jeffrey in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? I'm doing fine, Howard? How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wonderful. Thank you for asking me that. It's nice Dylan.

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<v Speaker 1>No one ever asks. They don't. There's like a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of people on the phone there with you. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my radio cohorts. That's what I say, co hosts.

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<v Speaker 1>We're a radio show, Dylan. So there's a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>us in the room. Yeah, and there's like people listening

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<v Speaker 1>besides me, And Okay, I don't think I have time

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<v Speaker 1>to explain to you how listening and how radio works.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason that we're calling you is because we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>something called a second date update. Oh okay, can we

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you about your dating life right now? Um? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking that as yes, not all of it, just

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<v Speaker 1>one date? Yeah, okay, specifically with a girl you went

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<v Speaker 1>out with recently named Michelle. Oh yeah Michelle. I remember Michelle. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>then why aren't you calling her back? Dylan? Oh? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I intend to. I really think she's pretty cool. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've kind of got a plan in the works. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I just have to wait till later tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I didn't late. Okay, what's going on? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you in a relationship and you're planning to break up

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<v Speaker 1>with your girlfriend tonight and then you're going to call

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle back for the second date? What can you? Spoke

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit too quickly there, Brooke? So why can't

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<v Speaker 1>you just call her now? Why do you have to wait? No? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just important. I have to wait till six o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you all about time? Man? That is so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>She told us on the date that you like looked

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<v Speaker 1>at your clock and you're like, I gotta go, and

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<v Speaker 1>you ran out of the date. Oh she told you that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean obviously left a pretty big impression. When you

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<v Speaker 1>think things are going well and then suddenly your date

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<v Speaker 1>ditches you. I mean I was having a really great time. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so why would you run away? No, it's not I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't run away, It's just I had to end the

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<v Speaker 1>date there at that time. Why, because we had reached

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six minutes? Oh my god? That why fifty six

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<v Speaker 1>minute is such a random number. No, no, no, it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually very specific. So there's this really cutting edge article

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<v Speaker 1>in this mental health magazine. Oh no, and it says

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<v Speaker 1>that the optimum time for like the peak enjoyment of

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<v Speaker 1>a first date is fifty seven minutes. So if I

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<v Speaker 1>set my watch and at fifty six minutes, I know

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<v Speaker 1>I need to wrap it up, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that'll increase the chances for a second day and a

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<v Speaker 1>third day. Hold on, the article says, oh, you're optimal

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<v Speaker 1>time for a first day to fifty seven minutes. You

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<v Speaker 1>looked a minute early. No no, no, I set it

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<v Speaker 1>for one minute, shy, so I could wrap things up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then leave right at the peak. Why

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<v Speaker 1>didn't you set it for like fifty minutes so that

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<v Speaker 1>you could have had like seven minutes to casually wrap

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<v Speaker 1>things rather than sprinting out. Well, are you guys even

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<v Speaker 1>saying why don't you just go with the flow? On

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<v Speaker 1>a date and just feel the mood of everything and

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<v Speaker 1>then realize, Okay, now it's time for this to be

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<v Speaker 1>over like a normal human being. No, no, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean studies have proven your chances of the date going

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<v Speaker 1>poorly increase by sevenfold after fifteen minutes from the fifty

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<v Speaker 1>seven minute marks. So if I tried to like offend

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<v Speaker 1>it a little bit or anything, I would have probably

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<v Speaker 1>lost track of time. And then it's like, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that X Y axis just starts plumbing, Dylan, I understand

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<v Speaker 1>that there's studies. Is there any studies on how your

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<v Speaker 1>chances decrease with a woman if you just ditch her suddenly?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I didn't ditch her suddenly. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a really wonderful time, but I have to

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<v Speaker 1>go or something right, And then you haven't been calling. No, no, no, guys, guys, guys, guys. No,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I have to wait until six pm tonight because

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<v Speaker 1>linked to that fifty seven minute first state experience is

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<v Speaker 1>a locked in seventy five hour waiting period and that

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<v Speaker 1>is the optimum time to call and then ask for

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<v Speaker 1>a second date. Oh God, dude, why don't you just

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<v Speaker 1>talk to her right now? Oh? Seriously, this is exhaust No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's not like part of the plan. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm throwing a wrench into your plan because Michelle is

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<v Speaker 1>actually on the phone listening. She wants to talk to you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I Dylan, what how weird? I didn't know you were

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<v Speaker 1>on the song. This is not good for the plan, Dylan.

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<v Speaker 1>Forget the plan. Just talk to her. I'm not playing games.

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<v Speaker 1>And this whole thing that you just came up with,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole plan is it is just like strange. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean I didn't come up with it,

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of top notch people researched it and

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<v Speaker 1>wrote it up in the Men's Health magazine. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I cool, But you couldn't, like day, You couldn't explain

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<v Speaker 1>something at the end of the date. You just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wanted to like use me as bait. No, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>It's just I really liked you, and you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>had some dates where we just tried to see how

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<v Speaker 1>the date would go and they didn't end well. So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I read this feels very manipulative to me. WHOA,

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<v Speaker 1>he walked away from you, Michelle because he likes you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense? For sure? Michelle. I'm understanding what

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying, and I yet that the intention was good

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<v Speaker 1>and positive, but this feels it just feels very juvenile

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I think it feels juvenile because you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>with me like six and a half hours before like

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<v Speaker 1>the optimum time, and I was gonna call you, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like I think it's having like adverse effects

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<v Speaker 1>science like on the whole plan. Oh my god, wow, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we threw off the time continuing with this call. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was working. She wants to see him. She called

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<v Speaker 1>us to call him exactly. Yeah, that is true. But

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<v Speaker 1>now that I know that it was all a big

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<v Speaker 1>calculated plan, I don't know. Man, that feels just weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like you're gonna be playing games the entire time,

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<v Speaker 1>our entire relationship. Again, it's gonna be okay. Well I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to. I don't want you to pitch a vacation,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have to wait forty five days and then

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<v Speaker 1>we can't kiss until two thirty four on the four

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<v Speaker 1>and a half date. Like, I think what she's say

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<v Speaker 1>in Dylan is that it's really sweet that you really

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<v Speaker 1>wanted things to go well, but maybe just be more relaxed.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so you mean like follow the play in but

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<v Speaker 1>just be a little relaxed with it. No, I could

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<v Speaker 1>call her at six o five and seven, Dylan, Dylan,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to take the plan, print it out, set

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<v Speaker 1>it on fire, throat in the trash. Yeah, okay, she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want your plan. She just wants you to be

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<v Speaker 1>you exactly. Oh can you do that? That is a

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<v Speaker 1>great ask, Dylan. That is what people are looking for

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<v Speaker 1>in the dating world. Okay, but just so that everybody

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<v Speaker 1>knows her finding out about the plan wasn't in the

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<v Speaker 1>plan shocking, So it's like a contingency. That's just we know. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>how about we make a new plan where we'll send

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<v Speaker 1>you guys out on a date and we'll pay for

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<v Speaker 1>that date if you guys see Oh yeah, is that

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<v Speaker 1>a good plan, Dylan? I mean I think I can

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<v Speaker 1>get down with that plan. Okay, look at that. Look

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<v Speaker 1>he's flexible. See Michelle's FLEXI Well, he's willing to go

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<v Speaker 1>with the flow. Yeah, and don't forget about the six

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<v Speaker 1>pack abs. With all those things together, Michelle, are you

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<v Speaker 1>willing to go out on a second date with him?

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<v Speaker 1>We'll pay for it. I will go on a second

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<v Speaker 1>date under my circumstance. Boo. She's coming up with a plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we meet at twelve forty three on a flat day, Dylan,

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<v Speaker 1>she sees, She sees you. You're perfect for each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about this, but I'll give it a try. Congratulations, Michelle,

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<v Speaker 1>you got a successful second date update. Thank you. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if there's going to be a third, but

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see how the second one goes. Broke and Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning,