WEBVTT - Marty Turco talks Hockey Playoffs and Beer 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:07.880 From the King of sports Books. Who comes the King 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:17.920 Sports Podcast Unleashed presented by bet MGM. You're your host, 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:28.880 Speedy Mormon and Olivia Arland Decker. Welcome back to Unleashed 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:32.400 from the King of Sports Books bet MGM. Now today 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:35.320 we are taking it to the ice and talking hockey 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:39.360 with NHL great former goalie for the Dallas Stars, Marty Turco. 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:42.239 Later in the show, our guy Peter Andrew is in 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:45.479 not just to talk betting, but he also has a 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:49.240 hockey quiz for Olivia and myself. But right now, let's 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:52.440 talk about the NHL Olivia. For those of us who 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:55.520 may not follow hockey as much as we should until 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:59.840 the playoffs, what is going on set the scene for us? Yeah, well, 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:03.400 the regular season is winding down. May nineteenth is the 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.840 last regular season game and you know, positioning won't be 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:10.000 decided until the divisions wrap up, so teams are only 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:13.120 playing opponents in their division. Every game has a four 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:17.000 point swing and it's a different format this year four playoffs. 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:20.200 The first two rounds are intra divisional, so each division 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:23.319 will advance one team. The top seed faces the fourth, 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:25.959 two takes on the third, and then the winners face 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.319 off as the champion of each division meets in the semifinals, 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:33.080 so those teams are then rebracketed based on their regular 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:36.280 season record. I really like this new format because even 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.360 teams right now that have clinched their division or secure 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:41.760 to spot in the playoffs, they have something to play 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:45.080 for in these final weeks days because they want their 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:47.680 regular season record to be as good as it can 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.520 in case they win their division and are rebracketed. So 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:53.520 battle for the President's Trophy, which is the most points 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:56.279 in the regular season, is still very much at large. 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.080 So a lot of the different leagues are doing things 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.240 a bit different when it comes to the postseason, Like 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:04.040 even the NBA is doing you know, that little play 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:06.440 in format, which Lebron is not a fan of, but 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.280 it's interesting to watch, you know, all of these leagues 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.920 kind of call these audibles and change things up a bit. 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:16.000 But what divisions so far in the NHL are wrapped 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:18.440 and who is still trying to make the cut for 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:21.880 the playoffs. Well, like I mentioned, it wraps up May nineteenth. 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:24.280 We're recording this on May tenth, so by the time 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:26.080 this air is there may be some answers. But this 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:29.800 past weekend was really big in the playoff race. The 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:33.280 Toronto Maple Leaves clinched their first division title in twenty 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:36.440 one year, so that was huge. They beat Montreal, they 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:40.000 secure the North Division. Mitch Marner scored his twentieth goal 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:42.560 of the season in that game, so but no surprise. 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.079 Toronto has been in first place most of the season, 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.080 so they're kind of leader of the pack right now. 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:50.120 But this North Division is still the biggest question mark. 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.079 Again as we record this on Monday, the fourth spot 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.000 is still not decided. It's the only division that that 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:58.400 is not all set. All four teams are not all set. 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:02.080 So it's Calgary, mont Real, in Vancouver who are fighting 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:04.840 each other tooth and nail for it. Calgary and Ottawa 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:07.800 faced off this past weekend. Calgary one that and Vancouver 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:11.160 is technically not eliminated, but they're gonna need a lot 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.040 of help to secure that fourth spot. In the East, 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:18.079 the Pittsburgh Penguins clinched and then in the Central Nashville Predators, 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.600 they punched their tickets to the playoff after beating the 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:24.720 Carolina Hurricanes. That's good because the Carolina and Nashville are 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:26.959 going to meet again in the playoffs as the Hurricanes 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.920 clinched the Central Division, and then in the West there's 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.799 still no team to clinch the division title, but all 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:35.840 four teams are set. It's looking like the Vegas Golden 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:38.680 Knights are going to take the cake in the West. 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.760 I know they're happy out there in the in the desert. 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:43.560 I know that they want that. It's not to be 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:47.040 happy about up there. It's great exactly, warm weather, good vibes, 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:50.040 and a lot of sports betting. Oh yeah, Now Olivia, 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:53.320 there's been a lot of strictness, if you will, with 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:55.640 COVID when it comes to the NHL, they're one of 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.640 the more stricter leagues. Where do they stand now as 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.240 this regular season has come to an end. Yeah, Like 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.480 you said, they've been one of the most strict leagues 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:07.000 in the US regarding their protocols, and last year, you know, 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:10.240 they finished in a bubble. This year, the NHL is 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:14.040 really focused on vaccination rate per team. But the tricky 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:17.280 thing with this league is they do border to countries 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:20.400 in Canada's way behind the US on the vaccine rollout, 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.800 so this really just applies to US face teams. But 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:26.520 the NHL just said last week that every team needs 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:31.000 to be eighty five vaccinated to get some more freedoms. 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:34.280 And it's it's really simple, Speedie. It's like social gatherings, 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.920 eating and drinking on flights and buses, and teammates being 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.719 able to go to restaurants together or to each other's 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:44.360 hotel rooms and watch tape. Also little things like if 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:48.680 the vaccinated they can go golf together or valuate their car. 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:51.560 I mean, this is truly stuff the NHL has brought up. 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.680 These are examples. This would also lift a mask mandate 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:59.000 in practice facilities and no more PCR testing on off days. 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:03.080 So NHL slowly kind of opening up as they have 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:07.400 that benchmark of fully vaccinated. And we've talked about this 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.400 before with the MLB two. It's every league is making 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.320 there are rules, and everyone just trying to make sure 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.440 they can get through this season. But a lot of 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.960 hype around the upcoming playoffs, a lot of hype indeed, 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:22.120 and we are excited to bring on a very special guest. 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:32.520 We've got hockey great Marty Turco in the building. Marty 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:36.440 Turco joins US now. He played eleven seasons in the NHL, 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.039 nine with Dallas, one with the black Hawks, one with 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:42.320 the Bruins. And now he's an analyst for NHL Network. Marty, 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:44.599 thanks for joining us. How are you? I'm awesome. I 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:46.960 really appreciate you guys having me on. Looking forward to 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.960 absolutely we're looking forward to you filling us in a 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.520 bit on these last nine days now before playoffs start, 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:57.159 and we've already run through with the way each division 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.480 is shaking out, but can you give us a little 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.159 bit more in site on how you're seeing the four 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.040 spots in each division shaking out as people are still 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:08.000 trying to finish in order. Yeah, you know, I'm here 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:11.520 right now. I worked for the Dallas Stars and really 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:14.200 gonna do great work with the Dallas Stars Foundation in 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:16.000 the community, and so I get to watch a lot 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:19.520 of hockey. Just unfortunately for you know, our club and 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:22.799 in this central are in this division. It's not gonna 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.280 not give be in the cards, you know, for Dallas 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:28.640 to take another run again back in the Stanley Cup finals. 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:31.360 But you know, the National Predators played great down the stretch. 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:35.000 We had unfortunately, wait too many overtime losses for us 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.880 to overcome that just would have that kind of proved 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:40.520 to be the synopsis of the year. You know, the 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.560 other divisions are you know, doing really well. The Canadian division. 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.479 It looks like those teams are set the Toronto Maple Leafs, 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.440 you know, the the hierarchy of the NHL. They had 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.000 such a great year. The Oilers of the thirty nine 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:54.200 year old goalie and the best player in the world, 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:57.480 Connor McDavid, are just been an absolute dream to watch. 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:00.920 But you know, nobody really wants to play Winnipeg or 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:05.400 we got Carry Price in Montreal, you know, in that division, Pittsburgh, 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:09.120 you know, getting in there on that division with them, 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.440 the New York teams very competitive one. That one was 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:16.480 probably the deepest I would say overall. The Islanders looked 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:19.920 like another great year. Yes, you know, Washington has got 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.320 a good club, that one. You know, to me, I 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.720 have no clues gotta come out of that one, you know. 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:26.600 And then you look at the West one where you know, 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.920 the dream of the crop to me is Colorado. Vegas 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:31.600 has had a really good team since they came in 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:33.760 the league, which is weird to say, you know, there's 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.440 still kind of hiring out the details there. Oh yeah, 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.960 but unfortunately, you know, so this is the way you 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.280 used to work back when I was growing up, they 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:43.840 had division so it was Minorus, it was the Smite, 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:47.480 it was the Adams, and h oh my god was 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:51.200 the other division. And so you know, your first round 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.840 would be one through four and two three in your 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.680 division and basically have a division winner. Getting to the 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.320 top four is what we're doing it this year. And 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:01.320 when you have an some division like the Smith was 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.840 in the eighties, we had Calgary and Edmonton and the 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:05.320 two best teams in the league. We're in the same 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:06.920 division that have to play each other in the second 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.080 round every year. And a lot of times I ended 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.200 up being a Stanley Cup winner would have been from there. 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.080 And so the four Winnipeg Jets had a good team 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.280 back then, you know, kind of got smoked. But we 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:17.960 this is just an odd year with COVID and can 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.800 Canadian teams ca't travel, but there's nothing like playoff hockey. 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:23.680 So I'm pretty excited to see how this thing all 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:26.280 shakes out. And and I probably don't give the division 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.320 of the Dalla Stars are enough right at the Carolina 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.160 Hurricanes kind of came out of nowhere to win the division. 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:33.440 The two best teams. You know, we thought it was 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:35.600 gonna be Tampa Bay. Who said, you know, a decade 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:37.720 run here and won the Cup last year, and Florida 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:41.120 Panthers certainly have a deep organization, really well on program, 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.520 so you've really interesting to see who comes out of 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:45.319 this division and like all of them. But you know, 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.240 I think it's been it's been good for short season, 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:50.480 been a lot of hockey. I feel for these guys, 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.000 but I can't wait for the Stanley Cup playoffs will 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.160 start here in a week or so. What do you 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:57.600 think about going back to this format? You mentioned this 0:08:57.720 --> 0:08:59.679 was the way he used to be done, But how 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:01.840 do you like that one team comes out of each division. 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:05.959 I think it's super interesting. I think great storytelling and 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.000 what the league used to do, what the LEA tried 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.400 to do in my tenure for a couple of years stretches, 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.719 we played so many division games and within our eight 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.160 one was four away, four home, which is a lot. 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:19.080 And now this year you're playing your division exclusively. Um, 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.040 so they're gonna be sick of each other and to 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.480 say the least, but I mean, I I promise you 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.400 the first round is because they've had to play each 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.400 other so many times, it's gonna have some intensity that 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.200 won't want to get into the front the nasty stuff 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.719 and then in the second round two same thing. So 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:39.040 it'll it'll help cut down some costs because in the 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.679 travel and you're kind of used to it, especially up 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:44.280 in the Northeast. You know, they could probably train it everywhere. 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:47.240 Canada's got some ground to cover. But anyway, I think 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:49.840 it's really interesting because you're trying to build these rivals 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.199 and you're gonna get them, you know, for us being 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.840 a division. You know, Nashville is usually in a division normally, 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:58.880 but not Carolina and you know, and not Florida and 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:01.760 not Tampa Bay. But they played Tampa Bay this many 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.400 times and playing them in the Stanley Cup files last year. 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:06.440 You know, we're gonna have a rivalry with them for 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:09.560 the next few years at least an unfortunately only see him, 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:11.680 you know, twice or whatever it is you're in the 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.199 regular season come next year. But I think it's really cool. 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:16.880 I wouldn't mind seeing it, you know, in the future. 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:19.240 But again, there's nothing like playoff hockey with the tency, 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.320 so it doesn't matter who's playing who. But this system 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.400 can't hurt now already. We know where you stand already 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:27.200 when it comes to who you think is the best 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:30.679 player or or what I think you said, most outstanding. 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:32.560 But when it comes to the most exciting and you 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:35.640 think about guys like Mitch Marner and Connor McDavid, who 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.400 who are you most looking forward to watching in the 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:42.760 playoffs in these divisional breakouts, Well, you're right, you know 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.640 it's gonna be. You know, to me, they made it's 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:49.600 the Oilers, right, I mean, Leon Drive Cydle and Darnell 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.839 Nurse in the back end, and obviously Connor McDavid. They're 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.199 just they're they're they're flying the leaves. I mean, I 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:57.920 don't know if I've seen a roster like the Leaves. 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:01.040 I'm trying to think, how you know, Kyle did it 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.439 up GM up in Toronto. You know, the fourth line 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.480 at one point this year was Joe Thornton, Jason Spetzer 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.440 and Wayne Simmons, like you know that that those are 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.440 all first liners in their in their prime. So you know, well, 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:16.120 you know, with Mitch and Austin Matthews really two way center, 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:18.000 that's kind of glue the team z that Kim in 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:21.120 good Michigan kid. You know, So it'll be it's gonna 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.200 be a lot of fun, especially right at the bats. 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:26.280 Gonna be Toronto Montreal. You know, probably the oldest rivalry 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.320 in the NHL. One team ran away up the division, 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.880 the other team just you know, kind of squeaking in 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.560 limping into it, and so that's a big rival So 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:36.640 I looked im forward to seeing that series, just because 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:39.679 you know, I growing up in Canada and you know, 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.480 watching the Leaves in Montreal and in Vancouver. When I 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:46.320 got to play the Oilers in the Stanley Cup playoffs, 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.800 still probably the coolest experiences in my life. And so 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.040 we all keep an eye on the Canadian teams kind 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.280 of what's going on. But you know our division too. 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.000 I think the two Tampa teams have to play each 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.600 other in the first round. Florida against Tampa. I mean, 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.160 those are two really good team and both teams to 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.360 me are Cup contenders and they gotta square off and 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:05.960 run one. So there's a lot of cool things to watch. 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.280 Those are a couple I got my ion. Okay, you 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:11.200 brought up Michigan. That's where you played in college, where 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:14.400 you had such a decorated career both individually and as 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.440 a team. You won two national championships. We've talked on 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:21.319 this podcast a lot with NBA players NFL players about 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:24.680 what that college chapter meant to them, almost more personally 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.480 than how it later affected their career. What did that 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:31.200 experience on such a great team, especially, what does that 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.520 mean for you as you now look back at the 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.679 importance of those years. How much time do you have, 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:41.679 however much you want? You know, the reason why I'm 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:45.760 smiling and my warms my heart because there's not there's 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.280 not a day that goes by that the influence of 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:51.520 the school, the institution, my coaches, my teammates that they 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:53.760 don't have on me, you know, just on the business 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:57.400 side alone. You know, my coach, he was such a 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:02.080 mentor to us to be first and foremost good son, 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.160 a good boyfriend, eventually to be a good husband and father, 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.320 and to be a good person. And he played HL 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:10.720 for fifteen years, he got his NBA while he's playing 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:12.719 for the munch Off Canadians. He's first kind of wear 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:16.160 a helmet. And just only saying this about Red Barnson 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.439 because you know, we idolized them and we listened to 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:21.400 him when he spoke. And so having the good fortune 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:24.240 of having him believe in me and playing for four years, 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.480 you know, getting the NC double A wins record on 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.160 these great teams. That was fun, but it was the 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:33.920 lessons we learned along the way of the training, the losses. 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:35.920 You know, we did win to national championships, so that 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.920 means we lost twice. So some of those biggest moments 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.920 in my life. You know, we'ren't just winning hockey games 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.120 and playing in front of sold out arenas across you know, 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:48.240 the Midwest and East Coast. It was the hardships he 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.600 had endured in a very impressionable time of your life. 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.959 And so you know, hockey's uh, you know, Nancy double 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:57.679 a path isn't the most common for NHL players, but 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:00.319 you know, I push anybody toward that direction if you're 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.400 fortunate enough to be around and you know, a student 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:06.840 leader like read great teams, um, you know, playing national 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.680 tablized games all the time, going at four final four's. 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:13.800 You can't predict that kind of experience, but I got it, 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.640 and it does. It really affects me every day. I 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.480 look back at our first national championship team. We got 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:24.360 two brain surgeons. We've got six doctors total, three lawyers, 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:28.760 successful business guy all the way around. Guys that played 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.920 probably a combined by six thousand games in the NHL, 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:34.760 and you know, there's the reason why we were successful 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.200 as a hockey team, and it wasn't just because we're 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:38.720 pretty good at putting the back of the net or 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.320 me keeping it out of it. We were just sponges 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.520 at the time going to fight for what we believed 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.640 in and brought it every day because you know, we 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:48.080 love going to Veritie Michigan have wearing that we're wearing 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.640 amazing blue, and we we were all in and we're 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:52.920 highly competitive with each other and certainly we're on a 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:56.320 on a national collegiate level, and so yeah, that experience 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.720 means everything to me and it still does. You know, 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.440 it's got a winged helmet up here. I'm on my 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:04.280 desk and you know, I just look at it and 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.560 think of you know what it took to go collect 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.080 the hundred twenty seven wins and a few national championships. 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.440 And I promise you, as in all sunshine and roses, 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:14.120 we fought, we cared, and we had to make some 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:17.360 hard decisions as young leaders. As our coach asked that 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:22.080 of us, and uh, he really just really instilled doing 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:24.600 the right thing, which, as we all know, sometimes it's 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.640 just it's not the easiest, but living that way on 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.480 a daily basis, having great habits as a human will 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.000 only just resonate and all you do in life. And 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:36.360 everybody rubbed shoulders with so yeah, I can go on forever. 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.000 But it was it was a positive experience that looking 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:42.160 back just gives me a ton of confidence, wealth of knowledge, 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:45.360 and I believe that I could. I could do anything 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.360 I want if I put my mind to it. That's 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.440 really cool. Thanks for sharing that. That's cool. Yeah, that 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.680 was great, Marty. I imagine that things are a bit 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.520 different today at the University of Michigan when it comes 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:58.120 to support facilities and treatments and things like that. Had 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.960 your team, the great team that it was, had the 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:04.200 access to all of the stuff that even the lower 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:07.800 tier universities have these days, how different may things have 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:12.120 shaken out? Well, you know that my mind's reeling a 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:15.880 little bit because you know, I'm I'm a realist by nature, 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:18.240 and so if we would have had it, then everybody 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.320 else would have had it. This goes right down just 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:24.360 watching games and video you know, I'm jealous of there. 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:26.320 I mean, I think of the miles I traveled to 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.360 go to study hall, you know, to go back up 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:30.840 to camp. It was late night, you know, after two 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.240 hours on the ice, an hour and fifteen with with 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:36.160 our strength coach Pilocky and he just hated them. But 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:38.000 I couldn't even feel my legs. But out of walk 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:40.960 up and running right to campus. The facilities you know, 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:44.720 we do have now and these institutions, it's just a 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:47.480 game changer. And the way we approached our sports science 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.200 which was you know, cutting edge because of the school 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:52.520 of the products that we did use. You know, there's 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.520 no way ever now we would use stuff like that. 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:58.600 But no matter what, you can't replace hard work and 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:01.520 work ethic. And I never really worked out till I 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:05.240 got there, never paid much attention to you know, my 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.800 body or my rest and recovery. You know, I was 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:11.000 in the kinesiology school, so that application during college and 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.240 throughout my professional career or even ntil date. You know, 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.840 now having kids and you know, having a body that's 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:19.480 getting older aid access to it, you know, I do. 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:21.639 I love hindsight, and I just think even during my 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:24.600 professional career, there's things that we know now that you 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:26.240 know I did when I was twenty five years old, 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.199 would be would have been great. But I'll tell you 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:32.320 the school gave us every opportunity to be successful as 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.600 a student athlete in the hockey season. You know, we're 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.200 busy from Labor Day and you know playing a fourth 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:40.919 final four is that goes right into April, and your 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.920 exams are you know, usually around the twenty or so 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.840 of April, So we didn't get much time to ourselves. 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.800 But we had a great camaraderie with a great program, 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.719 and we had a lot of great things on our fingertips, 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:54.560 not like they do now. But we only knew what 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:57.480 we knew then and we never complained and we're fortunate 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.920 to do it. But you're right, there's some evolution of 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.320 sports science and technologies come a long way, and these 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.639 schools kind of are the leaders in the roost of 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.680 you know, what they're doing to get those young student athletes. 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:09.840 It's a it's a it's amazing experience that they get 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:12.920 to have, and mine was just as good as anybody's now. 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.080 Already you have kids of your own, you've mentioned you've 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:18.320 seen them come up through their athletics. Now, as a 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:20.760 kid growing up in Canada, the hockey world and the 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.960 hockey landscape is so different, I'm sure than in Dallas. 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:26.840 So how do you, you know, describe and I grew 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:29.320 up in Kansas City. I grew up figure skating, brother 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:32.120 played hockey, going to hockey games. You know, that's that's 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:33.880 a little bit of what we got in the Midwest. 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.639 But in Dallas, I would think it's very different. How 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:39.720 do you describe as how big and looming the sport 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:41.960 of hockey is as a kid growing up in Canada 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.679 verse here. Well, there's a couple of things I probably 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:48.239 need to point out, And the first thing is, I'm 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.800 very proud of the Dallas Stars with your ninety three. 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:54.320 We don't operate sixteen sheets of ice this hockey club does. 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:56.920 We are There's no other sports entity that does it 0:18:57.040 --> 0:19:00.639 like we do. A lont of views have a figure 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.440 skaters alike that used to come in our buildings every day. 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:06.399 Would blow your minds. So this is now hockey town South. 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:10.400 We just hosted the World Under eighteen Championships here in tournament. 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:12.680 So it's really cool to see that our growth of 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:14.920 a sport that I grew up loving and so in Canada, 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:17.480 at least for me, I mean, Canada's a vast country. 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:20.440 In Northern Ontario where I grew up, all we did 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:22.880 was play hockey. Almost everybody. I mean, I don't remember 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:24.920 when I started skating because I was two years old 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.879 and maybe it was three, but my dad told me 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:31.840 it was too I believe him because I was in 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.160 the league when I was four. I had to move 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:35.960 to a different rink. I wasn't close to my house 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:38.920 because they the rank only about five year old to play. 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:41.280 And my dad's like, he's ready, he's good. But you 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.440 were in a hockey league at four years old? Yeah? Yeah, 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:46.800