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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome back to the Almost Samos podcast. It's

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Speaker 2: me and today we've got og bachelor Bob breaking down

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Speaker 2: the latest episode of Paradise with me. Hey, Bob, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for doing this while Ben is away

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Speaker 2: in Italy getting so much deserved rest of his family.

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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you, Ashley. I it's exciting to see you.

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Speaker 2: So nice to see you too. So this episode I

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Speaker 2: rate it very highly. Maybe my favorite episode of Paradise

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Speaker 2: this season. What are you about you? I?

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Speaker 4: You know, I was it was like drinking through a

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Speaker 4: fire hose because there was so much going on in

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Speaker 4: this episode, which I was. I was kind of like

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Speaker 4: of the mindset where I was like, Oh my god,

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Speaker 4: how much more can they squeeze into this thing?

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Speaker 3: And it was kind of crazy.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, for me, I won't say it was one

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Speaker 4: of my favorites, but I will say it was definitely.

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Speaker 4: There was a lot going on, and so in that regard,

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Speaker 4: I found it pretty interesting.

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Speaker 2: I think I was really starting to root for couples.

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Speaker 2: And when I say couples, I really mean one who

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Speaker 2: is your Before I revealed my favorite who's your favorite

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Speaker 2: couple right now? Who do you feel is the most

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Speaker 2: genuine and long term Well.

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Speaker 4: God, it's tough because my favorite couple was still Keith

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Speaker 4: and Kathy, which I know is not gonna be I

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Speaker 4: just I love that they have like just taken on

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Speaker 4: the role of being like counselor to everyone, which I

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Speaker 4: kind of thought might happen. But you know, I found

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Speaker 4: myself today for whatever reason, finding the whole Spencer and.

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Speaker 3: Is it Spencer and Jess.

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Speaker 4: Is that that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I found them to be a lot more interesting today.

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Speaker 4: But I actually started rooting for Andrew and Alex more

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Speaker 4: today exactly.

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Speaker 3: That was me.

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Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, wait, they are a serious couple

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Speaker 2: and I care about their well being. Yeah, They're the

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Speaker 2: ones that I'm rooting to go all the way. There's

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Speaker 2: a friendship foundation there for sure. I think that they

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Speaker 2: are going in the right direction upward. And I think

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Speaker 2: Jess and Spencer perhaps they're putting a little like storyline

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Speaker 2: of doubt and maybe it's not that big of a deal,

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Speaker 2: but I just try to put myself in my in

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Speaker 2: the position that I was in if Jared during Bachelor

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Speaker 2: in Paradise was ever like I'm ready to move in

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Speaker 2: in three months. I would have been like, yeah.

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Speaker 4: See, That's the thing that's so crazy is like, first

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Speaker 4: of all, I don't know. I've been with Canyon for

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Speaker 4: thirteen years and we have been we're married, and we

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Speaker 4: have kids and we live together, of course, and I

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Speaker 4: don't think I've ever said those things to her, Like,

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Speaker 4: I don't think I ever said, Okay, my plan is

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Speaker 4: we're gonna have kids in about you know, three years,

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Speaker 4: but that's.

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Speaker 3: Kind of long for me.

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Speaker 4: Then I definitely want to have us living together immediately upon,

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Speaker 4: you know, leaving this island.

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, like, what dude does this? You know,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of a lot and.

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Speaker 2: Not a lot of guys, but I know that if

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Speaker 2: I I liked somebody enough, and there's so many different personalities,

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Speaker 2: so I'm speaking for myself and not for her. She

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Speaker 2: seemed freaked out by it. And if I was totally

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Speaker 2: in love with someone, I would I would be kind

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Speaker 2: of all in on his plan. He does want to

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Speaker 2: move fast, and he also there was also the part

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Speaker 2: where he's like, I am in love with her and

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Speaker 2: she says she's not ready to say that yet.

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Speaker 3: Well, what's crazy though, was like I swear to god.

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Speaker 3: Two weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: She was the one who was like, this is our

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Speaker 4: last ever first date, and you know, like I remember

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Speaker 4: like when they got the date and she's like, this

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Speaker 4: and for her to act like she's scared to death

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Speaker 4: of it is almost kind of like, what the hell, lady,

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Speaker 3: To you and you're freaking out, you know. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Andandrew, I was going to say, the reason why I

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Speaker 4: was like they were both too timid to tell each

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Speaker 4: other they were falling in love. And then she's like,

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. And he goes, hold on, hold on,

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Speaker 4: Like he what I really liked about that he was

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Speaker 4: to say it first, I'll say it, you know, which

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Speaker 4: I thought was really sweet.

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Speaker 2: It was so cute. Maybe I also find them to

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Speaker 2: be like the most relatable. They're both a little bit

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Speaker 2: like I wouldn't say awkward. Maybe sometimes she's awkward, but

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Speaker 2: in a very endearing not like ooh, cringey awkward, but

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Speaker 2: there's just like a lot of genuine goodness between them.

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Speaker 2: And I don't even consider Dale and Kat to like

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Speaker 2: be like an actual option here, and I guess neither do.

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Speaker 2: I think Jeremy and Bailey because both of them we've

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Speaker 2: seen on camera have struggles before, and like their struggles

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Speaker 2: I think they were truly brushed aside daily Kat, he

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Speaker 2: said some crazy stuff about her. She did not trust him.

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Speaker 2: They both made each other worried, like they both had

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Speaker 2: all after Susan and like she forgave him for that,

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Speaker 2: And I don't know that the audience ever really trusted

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's interesting.

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Speaker 4: There's definitely a lot of like I almost feel like that,

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Speaker 4: you know how, like the formulaic version of The Bachelor.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm going back a long ways, like back

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Speaker 4: when I was the Bachelor, they would always make you

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Speaker 4: think and it was editing, it was, it was, but

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Speaker 3: Like, oh, well, I thought it was gonna be Debbie,

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Speaker 4: And it's almost like they're doing that with Dale and

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Speaker 3: But the only reason I'm just a skeptic.

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Speaker 4: So it's like when I watched the show, I'm always

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Speaker 4: thinking that they're manipulating me somehow.

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Speaker 3: Somewhay.

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Speaker 2: We've also seen them in like relationships in the past

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Speaker 2: that have blown up in a sort of toxic way. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know where it was just like, oh it wasn't

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Speaker 2: we weally with kindness, would like to separate, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 4: Like it was just like, we respect our privacy.

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Speaker 3: There's none of that.

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Speaker 2: There are two really big egos too. I love Kat

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Speaker 2: like I think she's the greatest reality star, but I

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Speaker 2: also like know that the two of them together are

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Speaker 2: of problems. This is just my two cents per Bason

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Speaker 2: what I watched on TV. All Right, so let's get

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Speaker 2: into the specifics about this episode. First challenge, loved it,

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Speaker 2: one of my one of my one of the like

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Speaker 2: group day challenges. Whatever that like truly can tell you

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Speaker 2: about someone. Oh, they have to go glamping. They have

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Speaker 2: to set up a campsite, so they have to like

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Speaker 2: supposedly set up their home. And this is gonna this

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Speaker 2: is great. Yeah that working together and trying to put

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Speaker 2: something together physically is a great test of compatibility.

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Speaker 3: Well, and it's hot as hell.

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Speaker 4: There's sweating, there's bugs everywhere, there's cow crap, horse crap

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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, anything that they can do to

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Speaker 4: And these people have to figure out, you know, everything's broken, right,

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Speaker 3: It's it's interesting to watch it.

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Speaker 4: It's funny because then they have, you know, unbeknownst to them,

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Speaker 4: and and you know, taking notes on how the whole

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Speaker 3: Way, I have been loving all the little chiron things.

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Speaker 4: But they're like, uh, you know buffering, Yeah, yeah. I

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Speaker 4: think they even said to someone, you know, like I

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Speaker 4: think it was it might have been Alex who was like,

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Speaker 4: you know, I can't believe they had a relationship counselor there.

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Speaker 3: And they were watching us the whole time.

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Speaker 4: We didn't know it, and all of a sudden, her

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Speaker 2: Exactly that they're breaking the fourth wall and like referring

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Speaker 2: to the show a lot that I like it's tongue

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was interesting though, but you're right, it was

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Speaker 4: there Cat. I honestly think this date was specifically designed

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Speaker 4: to make Cat lose her mind, Like they were probably like,

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Speaker 4: you know, we kind of need the old cat back.

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Speaker 4: She's been too chill on this season. We got to

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Speaker 4: some bugs in the mix. I swear that's how it

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Speaker 2: They're not that bad Cat, but apparently bad phobia. Dale

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Speaker 2: does keep it together, respect Alex and Andrew. The kiss

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Speaker 2: conversation was funny.

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Speaker 3: It was funny, and I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Think I understand what the relationship specialists expert is saying about,

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Speaker 2: like their chemistry, but sometimes I don't know what do

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Speaker 2: you think? Do you think maybe you did like burning

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Speaker 3: I think that's what's more fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like what I think that lady saw in

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Speaker 4: them that she you know, she she thought other stuff

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Speaker 4: was more I don't know, more important for relationship development.

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Speaker 3: So I'm wondering where they found this lady.

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Speaker 4: But I feel like, honestly, what they have going is

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Speaker 3: I mean, they've only been there two weeks, right, and

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Speaker 3: neither of them have been there the whole time. I

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Speaker 3: don't think. I think, I don't know. If they did,

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Speaker 2: Exactly, and that she describes the how Dale has superhero syndrome,

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Speaker 3: Be like, I just did this without even being asked.

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Speaker 2: And you're like acts of service people, if yes, acts

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Speaker 2: I so appreciate it, Like I appreciate it. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: Maybe that was because they I mean, maybe because she

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they haven't had a date on the show since

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Speaker 3: They.

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Speaker 4: Know, well, you know, I know that Dale and Claire

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Speaker 3: It's a horrible truth.

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Speaker 4: It's embarrassing that I'm like, I can get bamboozled so

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Speaker 4: I'm like losing it. What do you think about about

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Speaker 3: And here I've been doubting it.

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Speaker 4: I'm just like, you know, no, I'm good. You guys

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Speaker 3: You're fine, Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: Who won the who won the date? Andrew, you know

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Speaker 2: Gosh, it's so funny. Also, can we talk about the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not even gonna take you on a boat ride.

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Speaker 4: You guys are gonna sit on this beach and just

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Speaker 3: Enjoy yourself. Yeah, there's not.

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Speaker 4: last couple of date parties.

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00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so funny. Okay, now we have the conversation as

440
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 2: far as like going in order of the episode. We

441
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,159
Speaker 2: had the conversation between Jessine Spencer, which we kind of

442
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 2: already broke down. There is an age gap there where

443
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,120
Speaker 2: she's pretty young. She wants to be having kids by

444
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 2: her thirty I'm not sure what age she is now,

445
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,879
Speaker 2: but he says that would be a little late for him.

446
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 2: But she did say what the thing was is she

447
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,360
Speaker 2: said at the very latest thirty. So like, it's.

448
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 3: Okay, it's up for discussion.

449
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 2: It's up for discussion then.

450
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, once you're in a relationship, your timelines

451
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,640
Speaker 4: changed considerably when you're both in the same place, right,

452
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 4: So it's like, right now, they don't even live together,

453
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 4: so I get it, Like you're talking about having kids.

454
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,400
Speaker 4: It'd be like, dude, we live in I mean, I'm

455
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 4: assuming they live in different cities.

456
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 2: I don't even know it was Texas and California.

457
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, oh my god, they're on opposite ends of

458
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 4: the world. It feels like, you know, from that perspective,

459
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 4: So it's like at the end of the day, it's like, yeah,

460
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I get it. You know, if he's thirty

461
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 4: two and she's probably what like twenty four.

462
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 2: Maybe twenty five.

463
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, so she's thinking seven years that that's going to

464
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:44,959
Speaker 4: make him forty.

465
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 3: Bro, that's a baby too me. I mean I didn't

466
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 3: have my friend he's thirty two.

467
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 2: Oh he's thirty two.

468
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so seven years if you know so, that

469
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 4: would make him thirty nine.

470
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 3: Shaw. I didn't have my first kid that was forty eight. Bro,

471
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 3: Get over it, Bob.

472
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 2: Only like, like, I'm watching you right now, speak and

473
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 2: there's no way in the world that you register as

474
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 2: like older dad. You look and sound and presents all

475
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 2: over normally.

476
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 4: So sweet, Ashley, that's why you've always been my favorite.

477
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 3: Well, I will.

478
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 4: Tell you I uh I after this past weekend where

479
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 4: I went out three nights in a row, which I

480
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 4: haven't done in quite some time, I felt all of

481
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,919
Speaker 4: the old dad vibes, Like I was like, where's my walker?

482
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,360
Speaker 4: Then tonight I come home and my wife's like, oh yeah,

483
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 4: we're gonna have.

484
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 3: A play date with uh so and so and so

485
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 3: and so.

486
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 4: They didn't get see them all weekend, which I totally understood.

487
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 4: But then all of a sudden, the home is invaded

488
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 4: by a herd of people and I'm like, dude, like

489
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:44,239
Speaker 4: I love them.

490
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 3: They're my favorite family, my favorite couple. They hang out with.

491
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 4: But I was like so shocked because I didn't know,

492
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 4: and I was like I kind of thought I wasn't

493
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 4: going to do anything tonight. But now I'm back at

494
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 4: it again. You know, I might as well have I noon,

495
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 4: let's go, you know, like I'm.

496
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 2: One hundred no no, no, no, You've definitely I feel like

497
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,479
Speaker 2: you have a lot more stamina than I do. Okay,

498
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: so let's talk about the cocktail party where basically people

499
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: need to figure out who's going to go home. It's

500
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 2: pretty obvious that it'll be between Jonathan and Leah or

501
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 2: Keith and Kathy. And at this point, the stakes don't

502
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 2: feel high because it's gonna be one of them now and.

503
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 3: One of them later, right right, Yeah, exactly.

504
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 2: It ends up being Jonathan and Leah, and that's because

505
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: Dale gets the last say because they were the winner

506
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: and there was a tie in the vote, and he's

507
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: just like he was after my girl, so he's saying

508
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: by now like they obviously never really got along. And

509
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 2: then he also was talking about if you don't vote

510
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: off who you really think is, you know, the weakest link,

511
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 2: you never know what's going to like actually end up happening,

512
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: Like how are they going to play with the game

513
00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 2: later on?

514
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and I thought that was interesting because you know,

515
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 4: you never know what these challenges are going to be either.

516
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 3: So I mean, at the end of.

517
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 4: The day, you know, Keathy and Keith, I think Keith

518
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 4: might not be the weakest link, right, so they're thinking.

519
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 3: But I also think part.

520
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 4: Of it was, you know, the people that voted for

521
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 4: Keith and Kathy were voting because Keith. I mean, it

522
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 4: was very sweet and Keith got emotional talking about it

523
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 4: being homesick in Wine to see his girls and they're

524
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 4: getting ready to go camping anyway, or something like that.

525
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, I mean I

526
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 4: would probably think, man, this.

527
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 3: Dude needs to go home.

528
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 4: I get it, you know, And but then all of

529
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 4: a sudden he changed his mind and he was like,

530
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 4: I think I'm willing to stick around for another week.

531
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 2: Somebody was probably like, don't we do. Somebody production was like, hey,

532
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: it's not really weak. It's another day. If you could

533
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: get one more night, and probably.

534
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 3: Just bro, we can have you on a plane tomorrow afternoon.

535
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 3: Just get through time. Yeah exactly.

536
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 4: I'm sure that's probably part of it too, But yeah,

537
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 4: it's not like it's unfolding in real time. I mean,

538
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 4: you know, it's the eight Throws ceremony and it's only

539
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 4: day nineteen, So if anybody's doing the math at home,

540
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 4: that's not eight weeks, right, that's about, you know, a day.

541
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 3: It was like it.

542
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: Sometimes a lot can happen in a short amount of

543
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: time there. That be said, they go home and the

544
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: next day they have another challenge, the sharp they called

545
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: sharp opinions, and it's got stabbing daggers in one's back.

546
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: Jesse ends up asking questions like who's still talking to

547
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: an X? Who is most likely to get on the

548
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: nerves of their significant other because their child like acts,

549
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 2: you know antics. It was an interesting. It was interesting.

550
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 2: It wasn't as backstabby as I would have thought. It

551
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 2: wasn't like they were really talking behind their back.

552
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 4: Right, I think it would be kind of a I mean,

553
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 4: now it's down to what eight people.

554
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: And yeah it was anonymous. That's why it wasn't so

555
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 2: hard to me.

556
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then all of a sudden I would be like, god, dude,

557
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 4: that kind of hurts to think. So I don't know

558
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 4: if there's first of all, I'm pretty good with math, right,

559
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 4: so if I'm seeing six daggers in my back from

560
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 4: one thing. I'm like, okay, pretty sure everybody here except

561
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 4: my dude or my chick didn't throw a knife at

562
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 4: my back on that one, because it looked like, I mean,

563
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 4: on a couple of those, like even Andrew on the

564
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 4: first one, the childlike behavior one, I thought, I don't know, I.

565
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 3: Don't I must have missed where that was coming from.

566
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 4: But that was pretty much like him, right, they said

567
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 4: Alex and Andrew got the most on that one, and

568
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 4: then the next was trust issues. That was Cat and Dale. Yeah,

569
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 4: then I took notes. This is how interesting this was

570
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 4: to me. The biggest Oh what was this the biggest

571
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 4: codependent jessin Spencer.

572
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 3: That's probably pretty.

573
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 2: True, just you know, definitely definitely on her, Oh for sure.

574
00:26:53,040 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, talking to an ex.

575
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: And this one went to Jeremy.

576
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: So this seemed weird because we have heard there's rumors

577
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: around the internet and such that Kat had snuck an

578
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: iPad in and she was texting an ex. Yeah, they

579
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: either didn't flash to the right back when saying this

580
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 2: when like airing this, or it's just a rumor. So

581
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: we'll see, because if she was truly texting somebody in

582
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: an iPad. I think that would have come out here.

583
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 4: Well, if it hasn't come out, it looks like the uh,

584
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 4: the Paradise Parliament or whatever is coming back in the

585
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 4: next episode.

586
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 3: It's coming out if there's anything going on, because that

587
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: dude's pissede. He's like fired up man.

588
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. What I thought was weird was that Kathy and

589
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: Keith actually didn't win this challenge. I thought they would

590
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 2: have the least daggers because I so too. All the

591
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 2: questions didn't seem to be directed towards them, right, They

592
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 2: also seem to be directed towards younger people.

593
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 4: Although when they went to the who doesn't deserve to

594
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 4: be here? It looked like it looked like Keith might

595
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 4: have gotten every one of them.

596
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: I guess when it comes down to it, they got that,

597
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: and then Andrew and Alex ended up winning, but they

598
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 2: did get that childish dagger. Yeah, so they end up winning,

599
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: which you know, you and I both freeth the sigh

600
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: of relief. I didn't think they were actually going to

601
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: be in danger, but it's nice going into the Rose

602
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: ceremony knowing that they're gonna be safe. But we don't

603
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 2: get to see the Rose ceremony. Here we do see

604
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: them kind of pairing up though, talking alliances because they're

605
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: gonna be limiting two couples and it's gonna be the

606
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: last row ceremony, so we're gonna get down to three

607
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: serious couples, which means that one of this year we

608
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: know they can. Athy and Keith are leaving. Kathleen and

609
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: Keith are really being so so sweet because Keith is saying, hey,

610
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,719
Speaker 2: I'm eliminating us, you know, I'm going forward for the money,

611
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: which is really really so sweet. He also knows there's

612
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: no chance of them winning here, but he said, and

613
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: it was the most endearing thing I've watched all episodes,

614
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: all seasons of Bachelor in Paradise, and this show is

615
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: about love and that's what I want to root for,

616
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: not money. Then we see, like, you know, everybody talking

617
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: alliances and whatnot. But what I want to talk about

618
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: as we wrap up this episode is what Jesse says

619
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: in the teaser. He says, you guys have all like

620
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: known that there's money involved at the end of this,

621
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: but you do have to choose between love and money.

622
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's so interesting to figure out what

623
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 4: the hell this show is at this point because you know,

624
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 4: I even said at the beginning a couple of weeks ago,

625
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 4: when they first started talking about the money, I was like, Oh,

626
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 4: I wonder if there's gonna be like a for.

627
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 3: Lover money spin on this thing. Yeah, brought up the

628
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: Bachelor pad.

629
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 4: How the one dude chose, you know, to keep it

630
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 4: instead of share it, and he was a villain, but he,

631
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 4: you know, he made money. And it's interesting because now

632
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 4: here comes that twist right where it's really going to

633
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 4: be a circumstance where you know, let's be honest, man,

634
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 4: if if if if Jeremy, let's say, let's say hypothetically

635
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 4: it's Jeremy and Bailey at the end, and Jeremy's like,

636
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 4: I know that Bailey is into me and loving me,

637
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 4: but I'm not there yet. I mean, does he choose money?

638
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 4: Does she choose love? Like, and then what happened.

639
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: To me is choosing money in this situation?

640
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 3: Oh my god, no doubt right, And then he's coming.

641
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: Might even be choosing money. Kat might be choosing money.

642
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: I don't. I do think that. And I think that

643
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: Alex and Andrew and I don't mean to like just

644
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: pump them up so much. But I think they're gonna

645
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: be the ones that would have the most ethical dilemma

646
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: if it comes down to them being the champions and

647
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: having to choose between one or the other. Now, it's

648
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: all about appearances in my opinion, because it's a different

649
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: world than it was. I even think during Bachelor PAB.

650
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 2: I think just because of exposure and reality TV and

651
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: like us kind of all of us, not just you

652
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: and I who have been involved to kind of see

653
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 2: beyond the curtain a little bit more now, right, Yeah,

654
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: even the casual viewer who's really into the love element

655
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: of Bachelor is going to be like, guys, you take

656
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: the money and then you meet off camera and you

657
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 2: can get married.

658
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 3: Like, no one says you can't stay together, you know.

659
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: Nobody says you can't be together. I wonder if Jess's

660
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: going to say, there's like a thing where if we

661
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: catch you being together within a year of this show,

662
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: you can't do that.

663
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: You can't enforce that, No, you can't.

664
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I would think at the end of the day,

665
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 4: if it came down to somebody, you know, for loving

666
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 4: or for money, And I mean, first of all, if

667
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 4: they both say so, here's here's here's the thing, which

668
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 4: I know we'll find out. We'll find out next week.

669
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 4: But what if they both say for love and they're

670
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 4: the winning couple, does that mean no one gets that money?

671
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: My guess is this It's gonna be kind of like

672
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: Beauty and the Beast.

673
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you.

674
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: Fall in love, you will get something, if you like

675
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: make them fall in love when there's I don't even

676
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: know how to describe this. You know what Beauty and

677
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: the Beast works as he got her to fall in

678
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: love with him as a beast, and then she got

679
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: her treat, which was he was a very handsome prince.

680
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: So I'm thinking that maybe if they end up saying

681
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: we choose love, that's the ticket to actually getting the money.

682
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: To get the money. Oh my god, that'd be amazing,

683
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 3: wouldn't it.

684
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be amazing because I would like that

685
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 4: more personally because it's like, to me, the money element

686
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 4: somebody walking off of this show with five hundred grand

687
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 4: and breaking someone else's heart.

688
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: You and I know that this show has never been

689
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: this generous. No, five hundred grand that is hundreds hundreds,

690
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 2: four hundred thousand, at least more than they've ever paid

691
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 2: their lead right right, Yeah, that is a ton of money.

692
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: Real you know, they don't fly us first class or

693
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: anything like that, Like what the city around.

694
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 4: This's gotta be some twist and they got to be

695
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 4: planning on splitting it havesies at the end somehow someway

696
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 4: for that couple.

697
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: I don't know.

698
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 4: It'll be interesting to see what happens for sure, But

699
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 4: I mean, man, some of the best relationships have come

700
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 4: out of The Bachelor in Paradise, and I feel like

701
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 4: this could be another one.

702
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: You never know, and let me just blow up their

703
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: spot a little bit more Alex and Andrew. There's something

704
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: about looking at the two of them together that I'm like,

705
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: you guys look like you're supposed to be together. Yeah,

706
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: they knowing them from separate shows, I feel like they

707
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: were meant to meet here. I think they really could

708
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: be the next great Bachelor love story. And I'm sorry

709
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: for ignoring the Jess and Spencer of it all. I

710
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: feel like Jess and Spencer. There's an inkling inside me

711
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: that just says they could be like the Carly and

712
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 2: Kirk of this season.

713
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so it's.

714
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: Like the entire season, everybody thinks they're gonna end up together.

715
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 2: And I think that they will end up together, but

716
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: I don't think that they're serious enough to be in

717
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 2: an end an engagement. Do you think that anybody will

718
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: end here in engagement? Kat is already honest saying issue

719
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 2: will not.

720
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, Kat, respect, good job Kat.

721
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's been there, done that, and you know, one

722
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 4: wants to be like you know, ross from friends, where

723
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 4: you get like, you know, engaged or married sixty four times.

724
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: But I do think that I look at it.

725
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 4: I'm with you on this because I don't I don't

726
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 4: get the vibe from anybody else except Andrew and Alex

727
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 4: that they're that they're hitting their stride at the right time.

728
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 3: Yes, like you know what I mean, Like I think I.

729
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 4: Think Jess and God, I can't wind like Spencer.

730
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I keep forgetting his name too for some Yeah,

731
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: and he's.

732
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 4: Like insanely into her and it's like, you know, but

733
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 4: it's like they peaked too early.

734
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: I feel I feel like Cat and Dale. Cat and

735
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 3: Dale are just like you know, the King. Yeah, I'm

736
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 3: still I'm scared about for sure.

737
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: They're like in high school and it nicks. Yeah, and.

738
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 4: Then you got the other ones, which I know we

739
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 4: keep like totally just ignoring them, but they're there's they're

740
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 4: not there either, right, Jeremy. Jeremy's just something's off, something's

741
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 4: off there. Bailey seems so sweet, she's so good. Yeah, yeah,

742
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 4: she and she's being I feel I hope, I hope

743
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 4: I'm wrong, but it feels like she's being played a

744
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 4: little bit. And but I don't think Jeremy, I honestly don't.

745
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 4: I don't know why, but I don't think Jeremy is

746
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 4: doing it maliciously. I think he's in the moment he

747
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 4: wanted to redeem himself because that Susie thing might have

748
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 4: just been a thing. Here I go again, making excuses

749
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 4: for everyone. But I feel like I feel like, underneath

750
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 4: it all, he's not in this situation to hurt her.

751
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 4: Like you can tell, he cares about her.

752
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: I think at this point it's not even appropriate for

753
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: them to leave, you know, because they still like each other. Yeah,

754
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: and we're still not even done eliminating the people that

755
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: don't like each other, Okay, Kathy and Keith. Right, and

756
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: now now, of course, with the two eliminations, yes, we

757
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: are down to the this is this would start to

758
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: be the appropriate time for them to leave if he

759
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: is not like getting to be in the love point.

760
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 2: I do like the way that this seems like there

761
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: won't be any sort of pressure to be get engaged.

762
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 2: I think I've named this stat before, but I think

763
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: half of all married Bachelor in Paradise couples did not

764
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 2: get engaged in Paradise.

765
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

766
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: I think, if not more of the people that you're

767
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 2: married from Paradise didn't get engaged there.

768
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

769
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's good take that stress off the table.

770
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: Well, and it's like, you know, Neil Lane gets a

771
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 4: lot of camera time. He's good, Neil Lane's good. We

772
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 4: don't need to be thrown out unless they're getting five

773
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars worth of Neil Laine rings, you know.

774
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 3: And that's what the whole prize is.

775
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: Some catch to this, right, It's gonna be the great,

776
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: the biggest neel Aane ring we've ever seen in our lives.

777
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 4: It's just like one giant It's like a hat with

778
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 4: a giant diamond on it.

779
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 3: I don't know it's gonna be.

780
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 4: It's gonna be interesting because I feel like, to me,

781
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 4: I mean the money part of it, I get it.

782
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 4: It was introduced to kind of you know, bring that

783
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 4: whole a new twist to the show and all that

784
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 4: kind of stuff. But part of me is hopeful that

785
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 4: there is some type of love that comes from the show,

786
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 4: because that's always been kind of the magic of it,

787
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 4: you know, is that whole fairy tale ending that everybody loves,

788
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 4: you know, and I wouldn't mind seeing that.

789
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: I believe that the twist the final episode, it's all

790
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: gonna come together and prove that the show really is

791
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: about love over money.

792
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be pretty sweet. It looks like it

793
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 4: gets pretty it looks like it gets pretty dicey next week.

794
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 4: I mean the previews obviously they're bringing back you know,

795
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 4: it's kind of like Survivor, right, they're bringing I mean,

796
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 4: they are combining so many shows into this new format.

797
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 4: They're they're bringing back the whole cast. They're gonna be like,

798
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 4: you know, you're the tribe is spoken. We're getting that

799
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 4: element coming up with the Parliament, Paradise Parliament. But we're

800
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 4: also getting you know, basically, there's gonna be there's gonna

801
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 4: be some people thrown under the bus because it looks

802
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 4: like hysterics and Sue. I mean, it looks like, you know,

803
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 4: obviously we know that Keith and Kathy are going home,

804
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 4: and then who's the who's the couple that you think

805
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 4: of the four would be on the chop block? Like,

806
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 4: which one do you think would be the next one

807
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 4: to go home?

808
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: I do think I think it'll be Bailey and Jeremy

809
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: because of all the things we've said, but also because

810
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 2: of the Parliament, and I think the Parliament's going to

811
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 2: bring up a lot about the Susie stuff. I also

812
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: think that they're going to get at Kat. It seems

813
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: like Alisha, I'm sorry that I cannot ever say her name, Alicia, Alicia,

814
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 2: Alicia Silversion. Yeah, she seems like to have a vendetta

815
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: against Kat and she's.

816
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

817
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're fired up. I mean they have definitely been.

818
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 4: They probably spent some time with the producers on there

819
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 4: three days since they've been off the off the ranch,

820
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 4: and they probably have just been getting so fired up

821
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 4: about how to settle the score when they come back

822
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 4: in there. So it's gonna be, you know, it's definitely

823
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 4: gonna be some fireworks for sure. And it's funny tonight.

824
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 4: You know, my brother in law and a few of

825
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 4: my buddies that I was with this weekend. They are avid,

826
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 4: avid Bachelor and Paradise fans, and they literally all dudes,

827
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 4: like their wives don't even watch the show. And they're like,

828
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 4: they're like texting me all night. We don't want any spoilers.

829
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 4: Don't tell us anything. You know, we know you've seen

830
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 4: the show. I'm like, actually I haven't. We're watching it

831
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 4: later tonight. What. Oh my god, Well, we're not gonna

832
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 4: tell you anything that so we don't want to, you know,

833
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 4: influence your your podcast.

834
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 3: I'm just like, you guys are fools. But anyway, they're

835
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 3: they're so into the show and they're like, I mean

836
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 3: and there after.

837
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 4: The you know, they showed the previous for next week

838
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 4: or whatever. I'm just getting blown up. Oh my god,

839
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 4: this is happening. This is gonna be this is going

840
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 4: to be a reckoning. Things are going down next week.

841
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 2: Guys, are you getting this because we're recording this at

842
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: ten thirty pm Eastern, Like your your tex should be

843
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: rolling in about it.

844
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: Oh they're rolling, they're rolling.

845
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm watching it blown up my phone right now

846
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 4: as we speak.

847
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 3: I'm just like, oh my god, all right.

848
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 2: So fun, so funny, Bachelor Bob. I'll never not call

849
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: you Bachelor Bob. Thank you so much for joining us.

850
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 2: This was really fun. I love your insight and until

851
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: next time, I've been Ashley.

852
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 3: I've been Bob Bye. I've always glad to say that.

853
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,960
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00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,200
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