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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Stealer Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. Wes Shuler and Matt Williamson with you here

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Speaker 2: on a Tuesday. As we have got plenty to get to.

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Speaker 2: We have got a National Championship game that we need

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Speaker 2: to discuss. Yeah, but as always, Matt and I think

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Speaker 2: we will continue to do this for the foreseeable future,

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Speaker 2: or at least until the Steelers next head coach is signed,

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Speaker 2: sealed and delivered. We begin with the news of the day,

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Speaker 2: both you know, Steeler centric and just the ongoing coaching carousel.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's stuff happens. I'm moving and shaking.

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Speaker 2: Across the NFL. So before we get to Steelers specifics,

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Speaker 2: sounds like Robert Sala gonna be the head coach of

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Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans, Jeff Haffley gonna be the head coach

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Speaker 2: of the Miami Dolphins. Yes, via all reports, incredible sources.

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Speaker 2: At this point, it feels like, and this is how

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Speaker 2: this works. As soon as someone like Robert Sala, you know,

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Speaker 2: his season ended obviously this weekend with the Niners and

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Speaker 2: then this happens pretty quickly. But both of these it

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Speaker 2: didn't seem like there was a lot of smoke around

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Speaker 2: was like Bam, they've zeroed in onto their candidate.

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Speaker 4: Boom done.

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Speaker 2: So again, I wonder, certainly from SLA's perspective, especially if

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Speaker 2: that was something that they just were kind of waiting.

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Speaker 2: We gotta wait till their season's over and we'll get

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Speaker 2: this done.

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Speaker 3: And then maybe they interviewed like a bazillion people though

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Speaker 3: I mean way more than any of the other open teams,

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Speaker 3: like well, it's like close to twenty, I think, I

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Speaker 3: mean so, and I guess they've been looking for a

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Speaker 3: long time too. I mean, let's not forget that the

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Speaker 3: Giants and Titans knew this was happening months ago, you know,

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Speaker 3: so maybe they thought Sala, you know, in December, was

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Speaker 4: So a couple of things on solo thoughts on that

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Speaker 3: I think it's pretty safe to say that he wasn't

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Speaker 2: That's one of those I I don't know how much

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Speaker 2: no one has.

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Speaker 3: No one when he left, I mean with the interim guys,

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Speaker 2: Can take dip him in walls should I don't know

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Speaker 2: how much success they would have there.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, you know, So I can't blame that stint on him.

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Speaker 3: Like boy, he was a total failure. I mean it

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Speaker 3: was worse after he left. He certainly kept the Niners

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Speaker 3: defense afloat despite so many injuries. I mean, they weren't great,

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Speaker 3: but they they want a playoff game, you know, and

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Speaker 3: they won a lot of games in the regular season

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Speaker 3: highly well regarded. His defense always plays hard. He's a

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Speaker 3: pretty good schemer, you know, but they're always fundamentally sound,

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Speaker 3: and he does have experience, and I mean, so I

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Speaker 3: like it. We talked about this on my other podcast

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Speaker 3: with Brian Peacock, who covers the Niner.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was saying, boy, everyone loves Sala super

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Speaker 3: high regarded. This doesn't shock me at all, and he said,

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Speaker 3: and I didn't think of this angle. The Niners played

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Speaker 3: the Titans this year, so he spent a whole week

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Speaker 3: game playing for cam Ward, you know, and must have decided, boy,

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Speaker 3: I really would like to work with that guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And you look at the Titans. They have the most

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Speaker 2: I think the way you laid it out when you

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Speaker 3: Now, playoff type teams. Yes, yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Think you take those three out of the equation, the

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Speaker 3: That's a good start.

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Speaker 2: That's a I think is realistic when you're taking over

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think so too. So we ranked the jobs,

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Speaker 3: it to Atlanta. And we re ranked actually today on

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Speaker 3: the other show, the six remaining openings, how would you

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Speaker 3: went Ward, Mendoza, Dart.

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Speaker 4: I think I agree, Yeah, you know, and.

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Speaker 3: So I'd be pretty excited to work with Ward.

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Speaker 2: I think he he showed at points this season that

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Speaker 2: But he lost his coach and all that turmoil and

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Speaker 4: They didn't have a ton to hang their hat on.

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Speaker 3: No, he's throwing the mid round rookies, and you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough, and so yeah, I think there's a

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Speaker 3: Last thing on Tennessee is we just assumed, because he's

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's a very good job. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of college stuff on that resume,

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Speaker 2: You and I have had that Lane Kiffin conversation every

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know everybody wants Indiana's head coach and blowah,

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Speaker 3: but it's also not a prime job.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that he was when we kind of

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Speaker 3: And those teams will start filling out their staffs now too.

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Speaker 3: like that, you're late on the filling out your coaching.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're running back coach and the little assistance,

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Speaker 3: So they got guys coming with them, you know that

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Speaker 4: You know, you can be patient.

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Speaker 2: It's we we I think we referenced it last week

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't wait around too long.

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Speaker 2: You also don't want to get left on the Titanic

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Speaker 2: And then that kind of leads into a lot of

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Speaker 2: smoke in the last twenty four hours around Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: We know he's getting we know he's getting a second interview.

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Speaker 2: And I think at first, and we even floated this

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Speaker 2: one of those. And I don't I think sometimes when

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Speaker 2: think it's some big insult. But this happens all the

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Speaker 3: And McCarthy's had a lot of succes with Rogers and

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Speaker 3: There is some of the stability you had with Tomlin.

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Speaker 4: The thirty third or something.

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Speaker 4: That they would. I wouldn't hate that combination of those,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk to Mike the Fabo of the Athletic

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Speaker 2: partner excited to chat with you, and uh, and let's

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Speaker 2: are you convinced that Mike Tomlin will not coach in

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Speaker 5: I mean, there's only one person knows the answer to

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Speaker 3: So before we get in to the candidates, Mike, there

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Speaker 3: Is that door still open in your opinion, for both

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Speaker 6: Well, I think that the door is open for both

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Speaker 2: a huge long shot. And then there's three guys with

437
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Speaker 2: pretty reasonable odds Chris Shula, Mike McCarthy and Brian Flores.

438
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Speaker 4: One.

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Speaker 2: Does that feel right to you that those are the

440
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Speaker 2: top three candidates at this time? And you know two

441
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Speaker 2: it seems like things are getting pretty real here with

442
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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so.

444
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Speaker 6: I agree with you Wes that those seem like three

445
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Speaker 6: of the leading candidates, and I think that this process

446
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 6: is going to continue to play out. I wouldn't expect

447
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 6: the Steelers to hire their coach within the coming days.

448
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Speaker 5: Next week seems.

449
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Speaker 6: Like a more realistic time frame, or at least the

450
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Speaker 6: beginning of when they really could.

451
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Speaker 5: Make that move.

452
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Speaker 6: But you know, when you look at those guys, I

453
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Speaker 6: know a lot of people looked at Mike McCarthy initially,

454
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,120
Speaker 6: and I think that they thought they're doing their YenS,

455
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 6: their buddy a favor by bringing him in and recycling

456
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 6: his name into the news cycle. It seems to me,

457
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Speaker 6: based on some things that I've heard, like it's more

458
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Speaker 6: than that. It seems like there is some legitimate interest

459
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Speaker 6: at least, or at least they're considering him as a

460
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Speaker 6: realistic candidate.

461
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Speaker 5: I think that the strengths that he would bring.

462
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Speaker 6: You know, he went to an organization in Dallas that's

463
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Speaker 6: kind of a tough place to win and there's a

464
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Speaker 6: lot of term there. Three times, he won twelve games there,

465
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Speaker 6: which is pretty good. And more than that, he's worked

466
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Speaker 6: with a lot of different quarterbacks over his time. I mean,

467
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 6: he's worked with Joe Montana, rich Gannon, Brett Farv, Aaron Rodgers,

468
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 6: Dak Prescott. So the hope would be that you bring

469
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Speaker 6: him in and he helps invigorate this offense and find

470
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Speaker 6: and develop the next quarterback. Now, the obvious downside is

471
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Speaker 6: he's sixty two years old, So how long do you

472
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Speaker 6: expect to have that guy in position?

473
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Speaker 5: But I think that I think he's realistic.

474
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Speaker 6: And then you know, some of the other ones you mentioned,

475
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Speaker 6: I think Chris Shula would make sense.

476
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Speaker 5: You know, he's more.

477
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Speaker 6: In the mold of what the Steelers historically have favored.

478
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Speaker 6: He's thirty nine years old. He's a defensive minded coach,

479
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 6: you know. I think that he's done a good job

480
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Speaker 6: of borrowing things from a lot of different well respected

481
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Speaker 6: defensive minds, whether that's Dick Fangio like kind of stuff,

482
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 6: or you know, some of the Mike McDonald simulated press

483
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 6: stuff that's in vogue. He's borrowed off of some of

484
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 6: that and some of their front structures. So I think

485
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 6: that he is a guy that, you know, while people

486
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 6: know him because of who his grandfather is, he's really

487
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 6: carved out his own niche within the coaching world and

488
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 6: has become a well respected name. And then the other one, Flores,

489
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Speaker 6: I think, like you know, at one point he was

490
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Speaker 6: he was a bit of a pariah because of his

491
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Speaker 6: lawsuit against the NFL, and the Steelers helped get him

492
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Speaker 6: back on his feet to a degree. And now he's

493
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Speaker 6: I mean one of the most well respected defensive minds

494
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Speaker 6: in terms of an innovator, in terms of a designer

495
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 6: and a steamer, and not to mention he would fit

496
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 6: very much into that whole Blitzberg identity. So I think

497
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Speaker 6: that all three of those guys certainly make sense if

498
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 6: the Steelers have a short list, you know, wouldn't surprise

499
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Speaker 6: me if all three of those guys are on it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great analysis on all three of them. And

501
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 3: that's not the easiest thing to do. I say that

502
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Speaker 3: a lot, you know, talking being an analyst, talking about

503
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 3: assistant coaches is really really difficult. That being said, is

504
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: there somebody outside those three that kind of tickles your

505
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 3: fancy a little bit?

506
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Speaker 6: You know, I'm kind of intrigued by this Nathan Shieldhouse. Yeah,

507
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 6: you know, I know he's only thirty five years old

508
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 6: and maybe it's too early for him as a head

509
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 6: coach right now, but I wonder if you there's a

510
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Speaker 6: way you could bring him in as an offensive coordinator,

511
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 6: just because of the fact that, like it seems like

512
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 6: everything that Sean McVay touches turns to golden quickly.

513
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Speaker 5: Those guys are ascending head coaches.

514
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Speaker 6: And I guess the biggest reason why I either him

515
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 6: or you know, Klay Kubiak, another offensive mind. The reason

516
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 6: why I like the idea of an offensive guy is

517
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 6: in a lot of ways, I feel like the Steelers

518
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 6: are in this position where they're looking for a head

519
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 6: coach because it was difficult to find identify develop the

520
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 6: next successor to Ben Roethlisberger, and so in an offensive league,

521
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Speaker 6: I like the idea of an offensive mind. Not to mention,

522
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 6: and it seems like if you get a good offensive coordinator,

523
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 6: you're only going to be keeping that guy for two

524
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 6: to three years before someone is buying him off of

525
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 6: you as their next head coach. So in an offensive league,

526
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 6: it's a way to get a really good offensive mind.

527
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Speaker 5: And then keep him.

528
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Speaker 6: So I don't know if I don't know if Schielhouse

529
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Speaker 6: is next necessarily that guy, but I do like the

530
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 6: idea of an offensive guy.

531
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Speaker 4: We like the idea of being able to just say steel.

532
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 3: Hashs steel has steel hass.

533
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Speaker 2: Around here all the time, Mike, last one I've got

534
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Speaker 2: for you. Earlier today, we got the news that the

535
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: great Danny Smith has been hired by the Tampa Bay

536
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 2: Buccaneers as their special teams coordinator. Fifty years into his

537
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 2: coaching career, seventy two years old, still going strong. But

538
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 2: obviously we'll miss him. I gotta imagine he will. It

539
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 2: won't be quite the same at training camp and practice

540
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: without him hooting and hollering and you know, chomping on

541
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 2: bubblegum every single day.

542
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Speaker 6: He will be very much missed. I mean, I just

543
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 6: remember to paint the picture for people. The Steelers have

544
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 6: the media in what used to be a racquetball court

545
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 6: off to the side of the indoor facility, and we'll

546
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 6: be sitting in there doing our work while the Steelers

547
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 6: are doing their walkthrough, and all you can hear is

548
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 6: Danny Smith.

549
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 5: Hey, we're gonna go blow.

550
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Speaker 2: We're gonna go blow, We're gonna go all right, We've

551
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 2: got to steal a right still right here.

552
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Speaker 8: And I mean he had as much as he was

553
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 8: an old guy, and I mean he still had the

554
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 8: vigor of his youth, and he was energetic, and he's

555
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 8: a football guy.

556
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Speaker 6: I remember a couple of years ago when he got

557
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 6: plowed over on the sideline and I was making jokes

558
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 6: about it. Then I felt badly to learn that he

559
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 6: broke a couple bones and had to get surgery. So

560
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 6: true football guy and a true character that I'm sure

561
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 6: will be missed here in Pittsburgh.

562
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Speaker 3: I'll definitely miss him as well. He's a blast to

563
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Speaker 3: be around. Mike. Last day I got for you is

564
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Speaker 3: I don't believe this, but I feel like a lot

565
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 3: of our listeners would kind of be uninspired by a

566
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 3: McCarthy hire, and I think that's totally unfair, and I

567
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 3: urge them to kind of look deeper into what he's

568
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: done in this league. You get those vibes too, just

569
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 3: because oh, that's real redundant to what they had, or

570
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 3: you know, it seems like they want somebody super young.

571
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that there is a little bit of

572
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 6: skepticism based on what I'm seeing on social media with

573
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy. I think he would win people over as

574
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Speaker 6: long as he wins.

575
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I think that's the bottom line.

576
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 6: And you know, to my earlier point about offensive minded coaches,

577
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 6: like I think that the league has really very much

578
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 6: trended in an offensive direction, and like I think that finding,

579
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 6: developing drafting the next quarterback is paramount to this team.

580
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 6: I mean, it's all about you. Look at the teams

581
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 6: that have the most success, they've got a really good

582
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 6: offensive mind, they've got a really good head coach first

583
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 6: of all, many of them offensive minded, and then they've

584
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Speaker 6: got the quarterback. And so finding the head coach is

585
00:27:59,000 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 6: just one piece of it.

586
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Speaker 9: And if you've got an offensive guy who's done it

587
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 9: with Brett Farr, who's done it with Aaron Rodgers, maybe

588
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 9: he could help you get that second piece to help

589
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 9: produce that winning, sustainable formula, that.

590
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Speaker 2: Would certainly be the most exciting part of it from

591
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: my standpoint, absolutely, and that might be more important even

592
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: than finding your next long term head coach in this

593
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: in this kind of read have.

594
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Speaker 3: To be here for twenty years.

595
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Speaker 4: They don't.

596
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Speaker 2: They could be here for they could be here for four,

597
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 2: five or six and help develop your next franchise quarter

598
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Speaker 2: So terrible leave you in a great situation. Great stuff

599
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: from our buddy Mike de Fabo. Make sure you are

600
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: checking out all his work and all his coverage in

601
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: the athletic as we continue to ride this coaching carousel

602
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: out together. Mike, thanks for the time, buddy, and we'll

603
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: talk to you soon.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, guys, thank you so much for having me.

605
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Speaker 2: Of course, there he goes the great Mike de Fabo.

606
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: Great stuff from him. And like I said, he is

607
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: one of the guys that you should definitely be keeping

608
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: an eye in, an ear on and open to all

609
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: his coverages. He's in lockstep grinding those sources away.

610
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Speaker 3: Say, he's on top of the back with all these guys.

611
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: Know he went back all the way to coaching Montana.

612
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: I like it.

613
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 4: He knows his stuff.

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Speaker 5: You know.

615
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 4: Some some sometimes some of these young guys are are

616
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 4: doing the thing.

617
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: You see, young whipper snappers still have all that energy

618
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: to get out there and do the thing.

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Speaker 4: It is Motel six, by the way. We'll leave it, okay, Yeah,

620
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Speaker 4: we'll leave.

621
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Speaker 2: This is Tom. This is Tom Bowdett here and we'll

622
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Speaker 2: leave the light on for you. Uh, let's continue to

623
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Speaker 2: talk some some final updates on all this coaching stuff.

624
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: And here in the first hour we have to spend

625
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Speaker 2: a few minutes discussing that National Championship game from last.

626
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Speaker 4: Night as well.

627
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 3: You enjoyed yourself.

628
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 4: I thought it was a great game.

629
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Speaker 3: Yeah I did too.

630
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Speaker 4: I loved it.

631
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Speaker 3: I just think it's a great story, you know, overall

632
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 3: the same it's drama, you know, same.

633
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Speaker 2: So we'll talk a little bit about that as we

634
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Speaker 2: close down this first hour as well. West Wheeler Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 2: It is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network, your tunes.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

638
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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

639
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Speaker 2: Down the home stretch here of the first hour of

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Speaker 2: the Drive on a busy Tuesday. I guess all these

641
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Speaker 2: days are going to be busy until we.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's just a lot of scuttle. But you know,

643
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Speaker 3: nothing I've ever said that. It came out of my

644
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Speaker 3: mouth and it kind of flew out nice.

645
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Speaker 2: As Arthur Motes would have said. That's a fancy word,

646
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Speaker 2: a word scuttle. But and yeah, we're going to continue

647
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: to scuttle around here and and try and make sure

648
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Speaker 2: we're keeping tabs on all of this moving shaken across

649
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Speaker 2: the National Football League as we.

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Speaker 4: Did mention there.

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Speaker 2: I forgot to mention that full apologies to the legend

652
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Speaker 2: Danny Smith. I meant to bring that up in the

653
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Speaker 2: first segment, and we just got caught up about everything.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think it's amazing. I mean, like it'd be very

656
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Speaker 2: easy for him to sail off in the sunset. Fifty years,

657
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Speaker 2: fifty years of coaching experience.

658
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you said that you started when he was twenty two.

659
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess you could, right.

660
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 4: It's it's not man. He he has some stories like.

661
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: He's nineteen seventy six, He started with Edinburgh, his first

662
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: coaching jobs as a GA with Edinburgh, and then he

663
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: was the DB's coach at Central Catholic. Wow, his alma mater.

664
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: For those from outside of the Western Pennsylvania area. Central

665
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: Catholic is one of those football factories and they've produced

666
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: some really some really good players over the years. They've

667
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: also produced some some great you know, media types like

668
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: the like Bob Labriola, the Dean of Doom and the

669
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: Lord of Living in his fears himself. So Edinburgh to

670
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: Central Catholic, to Clemson, to William and Mary to the

671
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: Citadel to Georgia Tech, and then in ninety five he

672
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: started with the Eagles and has been in the NFL

673
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: ever since ninety five, So thirty some years here.

674
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 3: In the NFL after the Eagles, and you.

675
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: Know, you know it's crazy too though. So Georgia Tech,

676
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: where he was the running backs coach. Wow, all at

677
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: his start he was he was DB's, Okay, all those

678
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: first few stops he was.

679
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 3: He was DB's or gspecial teams from the start.

680
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: And then his kind of real first big breakthrough gig

681
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech in nineteen eighty seven running backs, wide receivers,

682
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: and defensive backs coach. Imagine imagine coaching all three of

683
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: those positions.

684
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: I can understand maybe like running backs and wide receivers,

685
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 3: but not somebody on the other side of the ball too.

686
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 2: How many positions every day? Yeah, that's a blast from

687
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: the past of a different time where.

688
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 3: Like I can't even remember that.

689
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: Time you'd have Fielding Yost, who was like the Michigan

690
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: head coach and the legendary Michigan football coach who would

691
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: also coach like the wrestling team and the baseball team.

692
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 4: You know that winner in the springtime.

693
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 3: Well, I think people know, like Chuck Nole was the

694
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 3: last coach to have a special teams coach, but that

695
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 3: was still like mid eighties.

696
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: It is wild how fast sports have changed really since

697
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: like the eighties.

698
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: You don't know how you do that.

699
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: How would you have enough time in the day to

700
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: coach running backs, wide receivers and defensive in.

701
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 3: Your room at the same time.

702
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 4: Unbelieve that that's.

703
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: Not And then to the Eagles in ninety five where

704
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: he got his his first NFL breakthrough as special teams

705
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: coordinator and defensive backs coach.

706
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 4: Okay, he was at the Eagles.

707
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: Ninety five to ninety eight, then with the Lions for

708
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: two years as a tight ends coach, Bills for two

709
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: years as special teams coach. Uh and then for a

710
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: long time obviously he was with for what eight or

711
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: nine years was with the what they were the Redskins

712
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: now the Washington Commanders.

713
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: But years were those. That's that's when I was curious.

714
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: Two thousand and four to twenty twelve, because that was

715
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: he tells stories about his roommate on the road.

716
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 3: Was Sean McVay when he was like a brand new hobby. Yeah,

717
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 3: because those are Mike Shanahan, Oh yeah, Washington teams.

718
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 4: Yep.

719
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 3: I think Kyle was like there was a.

720
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 4: Lot on those staffs. Yeah, yeah, McVeigh.

721
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: You look back at those that coaching staff that year

722
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: that they won the division with RG three, Yeah, and

723
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: made a.

724
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 4: Little noise that coaching staff is like the who's who there?

725
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 3: They all went place. All I was wondering was because

726
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 3: I think he's told stories about how long him and

727
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 3: McVeigh were roommates on the road. Yeah.

728
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: I would love to sit in between it and just

729
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: listen to them swap stories and talk about old games

730
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 2: and old jobs and stuff like that. And then he

731
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: was with the Steelers from twenty thirteen through this twenty

732
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: twenty five season.

733
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: Which is a really long tenure.

734
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 4: Two oh, unbelievable.

735
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, seventy two years old, still going at it into

736
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: his fiftieth year here of coaching.

737
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 4: All the best at Danny Smith.

738
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, congratulations.

739
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: I think I think everybody everybody from from Steeler Land

740
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: here will be will be wishing him well.

741
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: He's also really good as job. Not only is he

742
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 3: fun to be around in an interesting character, but he's

743
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: good his job.

744
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: You don't spend more than you know, twenty some years

745
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: as a special teams coordinator in the NFL without being

746
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: without being pretty pretty good at what you're doing.

747
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: They pretty much block a punt or two every year

748
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 3: and that's usually scheming.

749
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 2: You know, hey, and speaking of blocking a punt, how

750
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: do you like that for a transition?

751
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, the biggest plays the game.

752
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: Indiana did that last night and what was probably the

753
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: biggest game in there, twenty seven to twenty one National

754
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: championship victory over Miami. One of the guys that I

755
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: do the WVU show with Jed Drenning, he he's like

756
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: the sideline report. He's like the the Max Starks or

757
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: Missy Matthews of WVU. I played quarterback there in the nineties,

758
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: is now the sideline reporter on the broadcasts. He sent

759
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: us a stat last night that like in Division I

760
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 2: college football, when you block a punt for a touchdown,

761
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 2: you win like ninety two percent of the top.

762
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 4: Like it's an it's an unbelievable number.

763
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 3: It's not a little over fifty.

764
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's decisive.

765
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: And he was laughing because in the four year Backyard

766
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: Brawl series that just wrapped up and is unfortunately on

767
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: hiatus here for a couple of years. In two of

768
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 2: those years, WVU blocked a punt for a touchdown but lost.

769
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: And then Pitt blocked a blocked a punt for a

770
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 2: touchdown but lost. So he's like, it's funny, He's like,

771
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 2: ninety percent of the time the team wins, and it

772
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: just so happened that in the brawl. It reversed the

773
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: trend twice in those in those four years, but that

774
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 2: I think was a huge play. But Indiana completes what

775
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: might be the dream season of all dream seasons. Matt, Yeah,

776
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: sixteen and oh from from the from the losingest power

777
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: for football program in history, that's right.

778
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 4: Part of it, all right, it's it's unbelievable. I mean

779
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 4: it's unbelievable.

780
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 3: I think we were throwing out some parallels, but they're

781
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 3: not even parallel. Like the Raiders of the first overall pick,

782
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 3: if they win the Super Bowl next year, this is

783
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 3: more unlikely than that.

784
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: Same with the Pie. As much as the Pirates haven't

785
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: run a playoff series since the seventies, yeah, yeah, they

786
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 2: haven't won the division since the nineties, there's still a

787
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: professional team one of thirty two.

788
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: It's only thirty two is opposed one hundred and whatever.

789
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: And like Paul, the Pirates get Paul Skins because of

790
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 2: the draft and they're the first overall pick.

791
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you get.

792
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 4: Exactly right.

793
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: If you're Indiana, you don't just keep getting these top

794
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: picks to help your chances, you got it. It's even

795
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: harder when you're one of those programs.

796
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 3: Nowadays, you get a booster that is a little more convinced.

797
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 4: And that certainly helped Indiana because.

798
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 3: I'm sure or a coach or a quarterback, but all

799
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 3: three and you go a long way, but they still

800
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: blow me away. Just how well their code.

801
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 4: It's unbelievable. Yeah, I mean, they.

802
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: Nobody makes mistakes. Everybody, nobody misses tackles, not wrong gaps,

803
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 3: that never looked confused.

804
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 2: That Belichickian thing that you were talking about. Yeah, we're

805
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: just we're never going to beat ourselves. Yeah yeah, and

806
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: that man, Indiana has done that so well, and they

807
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: did again last night. It was Miami who in those

808
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: one or two key moments, the special team's gaff, the

809
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 2: Carson Beck interception at the end. That's I mean, that's

810
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 2: the difference in the end is a couple of those

811
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 2: moments where Indiana was the one who didn't blink.

812
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 3: And I didn't think Indiana was the vastly superior team.

813
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: It was a pretty even game, it wasn't. Yeah, Mendoza

814
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 3: had his kind of Heisman moment too. We're getting into

815
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 3: the end zone and also taking the helmet on the

816
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 3: chin early too.

817
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a couple times this year has absorbed

818
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: some big hits. You really, first play of the Big

819
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: Ten Championship game against Ohio State. I don't know if

820
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 2: he got blasted on the very first play of the game, right,

821
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 2: He's he's got some of that.

822
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 4: He's got some of that toughness too.

823
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 3: Yeah. He I mean, he's an odd interview. We'll all

824
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,479
Speaker 3: say that he's a good he's but it's not like, boy,

825
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 3: he's total woostbag. I mean, he's a tough guy.

826
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 2: He is not the Ben Roethlisberger. Joe, I'm the coolest

827
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:08,959
Speaker 2: guy in the room.

828
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 4: No, I'm hanging out.

829
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: I'm hanging out at WWE and up in the ring

830
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: with Triple H and and HBK. But man, he's he's

831
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 2: got some He's got some real undeniable traits and talents.

832
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and you mentioned like him laying his body

833
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 2: on the line on that fourth down and taking two

834
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 2: big hits and still getting a touch.

835
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 4: Not only the fourth down conversion, but he gets into

836
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 4: the end zone.

837
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a lot of ability.

838
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 4: He's he's got a lot of ability.

839
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 3: Uh, they screwed on straight. I mean they could say

840
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: one about the interviews, but I mean he is very

841
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 3: focused and smart, and you know, I.

842
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: Don't think you have to worry about him getting into

843
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: off season trouble or anything like that.

844
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 3: Around Las Vegas.

845
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 4: It was just an easy place to get in trouble.

846
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 2: I've been told, Uh, Indiana two six of sixteen on

847
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 2: third downs, two for two on fourth downs. I thought

848
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: that loomed large where Miami was just three of eleven

849
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 2: on third downs and nearly thirty six and a half

850
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: minutes of time of possession for I U. They just

851
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: they just warre them down in the course of sixty minutes.

852
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 3: Say their physical I don't want to say they won

853
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 3: in the trenches, but they kind of won the trenches,

854
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: you know.

855
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And and so that was that was That was

856
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: a fun one last night. That was a great game

857
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: that played out again, you know, one score game kind

858
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: of like we talked about, I think Andiana wins, but

859
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: Miami covers and that's what ended up happening.

860
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 4: And I don't think.

861
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: But neither of these programs are going anywhere. Like you

862
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: look at you look at Indiana. They are not a

863
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 2: flash in the pan.

864
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just because they lose Mendoza and be like, oh,

865
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 3: back to holl they used to be.

866
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 7: Right.

867
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: They've got Josh Hoover coming in transferring in from TCU.

868
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 2: He's not Mendoza, but he's a really good quarterback. They've

869
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 2: got a really good transfer class in general coming in,

870
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: oh I'm sure. Yeah, And and they're gonna be just fine.

871
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: Same with Miami. Miami's got a ton of young guys.

872
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 2: You saw a couple of them, Malachi Tony like him

873
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: and Jeremiah Smith or like those next like wait till

874
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 2: these two get to the.

875
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 3: NFL and you team when the season started. Yes, yeah,

876
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 3: I mean you think they're both preseason top ten teams. Yes, Okay,

877
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: I think they are.

878
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: I think Indiana could be number one. I think they're

879
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: both preseason top ten. Texas will be up there with

880
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 2: Arch returning, especially, Ohio State will be up there with Julian.

881
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: Julian saying in Oregon, I think all those teams would

882
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: be your your you know, top six or seven. You

883
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 2: probably throw Georgia in there as well, like always Notre Dame,

884
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 2: Notre Dame should be really should be really good. Again,

885
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: they returned CJ. Carr, really really talented quarterback. Someone tweeted

886
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 2: me last night it was like, I love when you

887
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: and Matt talked the college quarterbacks and everything. Just make

888
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: sure you're keeping an eye on CJ. Carr And I

889
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 2: don't know. I guess that could just be in general.

890
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: He's not draft eligible, he's returning to note.

891
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 3: But but he's another one of those guys you know

892
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 3: who we could be when we do around campus next fall.

893
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: If the Steelers, I think we'll still be We'll still

894
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: be doing an around campus segment in some capacity something. Right,

895
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: Even if the Steelers go out and draft the guy

896
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: this year, we'll still be doing something. But if we

897
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: are as quarterback centric as we were this year, he

898
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: will he will definitely be a name involved. But Carson Beck,

899
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 2: Matt I thought, showed a lot of really good things,

900
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: but some of the you know, some of the concerns.

901
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: He's going to be a very interesting evol for me.

902
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 2: I will when we get to the combine and we

903
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: talked to the Dane Bruglers of the world, and I'll

904
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 2: be very interested to see what people think about Carson

905
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: Beck because if you tell me he's worth a Jackson

906
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: Dart type first round area, you know that back into

907
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: the draft pick, I wouldn't think you're crazy. But if

908
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: you said to me I wouldn't touch him in the

909
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 2: first two days, I wouldn't think you're crazy.

910
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I am excited to learn more. Again, none

911
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 3: of these draft things are my final answer. I can't

912
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: say I'm I would not. I mean, I'm not giving

913
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 3: you twenty one for him. Right now.

914
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 2: We're going, we're going, We're going, We're still we're still

915
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: going fishing. Oh yeah, yeah, in that regard, that's a

916
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: good way to put it. Well, we'll dust that off

917
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: plenty here.

918
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 3: Last thing I have on it, but we keep talking

919
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 3: about it. For sure, Signett. He's just fun to root

920
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: for and such a good story and I like the

921
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 3: iup tie, I'll do'll let me wrong and all that too.

922
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 3: But like he's walking off at halftime, they stick a

923
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: microphone in his face and he's like, you know, how

924
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 3: to have to you know, how'd half go? And as

925
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 3: opposed to like, oh, we just don't need to turn

926
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 3: to all the nonsense. You hear from every coach, and

927
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 3: I don't hate doing that if i'm them, especially coming

928
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 3: out of the tunnel, like I'm excited to coach my team.

929
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 3: I don't want to talk to you. But anyway, he

930
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: basically says, well, they missed three clear quarterback hits. Yeah,

931
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 3: I'm paraphrasing, but like penalties. I mean three of them,

932
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 3: you know, right off the bat. And then he's like, yeah,

933
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 3: we're not handling the double mug explits very well either,

934
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: like he's like talking about real stuff.

935
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 4: He's a straight shooting son of a gun.

936
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 9: Yeah.

937
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Uh, Pittsburgh's finest you know, of course WVU alma mater,

938
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: former quarterback there for a few years. He's uh, man,

939
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: I tell you what, it'd be a lot of fun

940
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: to have him on either side of the backyard brawl,

941
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: but I don't think that's going.

942
00:42:59,400 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 4: To be the case.

943
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 3: Pretty happy where he's at.

944
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 4: I think he's pretty happy where he's at.

945
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: And as much as uh, you know, pitt has a

946
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 2: ton of money in WU has enough money, I don't

947
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 2: think they got IU money to be matching that largest

948
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: alumni network in the country. And speaking of that last

949
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: thing before we go to break. By the way, his

950
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: record is twenty seven. He took over historically the worst

951
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: powerful college football program. His record is twenty seven and two.

952
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 3: Twenty seven.

953
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 4: It's just ridiculous.

954
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: I'll tell you games.

955
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 4: I'll tell you guys this right now.

956
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: If WU ever went twenty seven and two over two years,

957
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 2: you wouldn't be able to locate me. Oh, I'd be

958
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,959
Speaker 2: like face down in a ditch somewhere right just having

959
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 2: the time of my life.

960
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 3: So I you alumni that went and said the same thing,

961
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 3: like I never thought this, oh my gosh, or anything

962
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 3: resembling this.

963
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: Right again, I mean, it would be it'd be like

964
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 2: if the Pirates rattled off, you know, a World Series

965
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: here in the next two years, and even that, it's

966
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: unbelievable and it's one of it is one of the

967
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 2: I think coolest, most surprising stories in all of college

968
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: sports history. Signetti after last year, redid his contract and

969
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 2: got a big bump, Like he was already pretty nicely compensated,

970
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: but after the year they had last year exactly right

971
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: and all that coaching carousel stuff, he got a nice bump.

972
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: But he's now in line. So when they redid his

973
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: contract not that long ago, they put a clause in

974
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: there that if he won the national championship, he would

975
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: get a he would basically become They would take the

976
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: three highest paid coaches in college football, and whatever that

977
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: aggregate number was, that would become his salary.

978
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 4: So he's Wow.

979
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: He just got a big bump a few months ago,

980
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: and he's due to get another.

981
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 3: Given.

982
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: No, now I think he's like seven or eight.

983
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 4: I think he's in the back end of the top ten.

984
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: So a recent contract, yes, but he's gonna get even

985
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: a few extra million a year. And uh and yeah,

986
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 2: good uh man, good time to be uh Kurt Signetti,

987
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: that is for sure.

988
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, well earned, well earned.

989
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, hour in the books, another hour to go.

990
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: Here On the drive halfway home was Shuler Matt Williamson

991
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network