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Speaker 1: M hm okay. Welcome to the Therapy for Black Girls Podcast,

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Speaker 1: a weekly conversation about mental health, personal development, and all

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Speaker 1: the small decisions we can make to become the best

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Speaker 1: possible versions of ourselves. I'm your host, Dr joy hard

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Speaker 1: and Bradford, a licensed psychologist in Atlanta, Georgia. For more

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Speaker 1: Start series all month long, we'll be discussing steps you

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Speaker 1: of Duet Interiors, a full service residential design firm specializing

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Speaker 1: about how to get started with figuring out your interior

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Speaker 1: tv G in session. Here's our conversation. So, I think

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Speaker 1: the idea of like decorating your home and like figuring

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Speaker 1: I'd love for you to just start by telling us, Tiffany,

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Speaker 1: what questions can we ask ourselves to try to figure

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Speaker 1: out what our decorating style might be. Wow, that's such

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Speaker 1: a great question. I think the way that I approach it,

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Speaker 1: and where I actually just tell my clients is really

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Speaker 1: just to think about the places and the spaces that

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Speaker 1: you already love to be in, and then look at

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Speaker 1: what places make you feel comfortable or inspired or you know,

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Speaker 1: you just visually like in awe of and use that

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Speaker 1: kind of as you're starting point for how you want

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Speaker 1: your space to feel. Because essentially interior design is really

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Speaker 1: just an emotive feeling, So you're really just trying to

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Speaker 1: you kind of write down those words, and then as

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Speaker 1: have this kind of reference point to keep you honest.

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Speaker 1: So where do we start? So you're saying, talk about, like,

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Speaker 1: where have we been before that we really enjoyed? What

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Speaker 1: do I want to feel like? So do you start

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Speaker 1: So I always say, figure out one room first. What's

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Speaker 1: M So, what are some of the personalizations that we

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Speaker 1: So wallpaper is definitely a way that you can really

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Speaker 1: to furnish your apartment, have ten to maybe set aside

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Speaker 1: for things like that, for assembly, for extra delivery fees,

433
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Speaker 1: for anything that just may come up in the process

434
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,199
Speaker 1: that again is unexpected. I think that's just like a

435
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 1: great rule of thumb, no matter how big your budget is. Mmmm.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for that, Tiffany. So you mentioned

437
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Speaker 1: earlier on in our conversation that it does feel like

438
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: they're all these terms right, like Boho chic and form

439
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: house modern and all of that stuff. And so if

440
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Speaker 1: you're down I want you to do a little exercise

441
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Speaker 1: with us. So I'm gonna give you some popular black

442
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: women fictional characters, and I'd love for you to tell me,

443
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Speaker 1: like what is the interior design style and what might

444
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: we expect in their apartments? Okay, okay, all right, So

445
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Speaker 1: Sa D from Insecure, how would we describe her interior

446
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 1: design style? Oh my gosh, she's one of my favorite people. Awkward.

447
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 1: I think she's so quirky. But if I looked at

448
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 1: like her fashion, because she she always has like bright

449
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 1: colors on and patterns, I think her house would definitely

450
00:21:55,640 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 1: be like a version of like Boho slash like eccentric.

451
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 1: But for sure she has black owned almost everything in

452
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Speaker 1: that house. I think all the art and there is

453
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: gonna be black artists, the books are gonna be black

454
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 1: creators and designers. I think she's gonna definitely make sure

455
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,959
Speaker 1: that the storytelling comes alive through some of those like

456
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Speaker 1: accessory and pieces that kind of bring the room to life.

457
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: But yeah, I would say she's definitely like kind of eclectic.

458
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Speaker 1: I could see her definitely having some vintage items and

459
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: some things that were maybe passed down from friends and

460
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,239
Speaker 1: family that are kind of complimenting the space, and that's

461
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Speaker 1: where that kind of like eccentric kind of vibe comes in.

462
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,160
Speaker 1: It's like it's gonna be functional and service purpose, but

463
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Speaker 1: it just may have a little bit of like wornness

464
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Speaker 1: to it and complimenting some items that are going to

465
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Speaker 1: be a little bit newer. So that would be kind

466
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Speaker 1: of my thoughts. Okay that What about Olivia Pope from Scandal. Oh,

467
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: she's like restoration hardware, very modern. Everything is extensive and cozy,

468
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: and she probably hired an interior designer for sure, she

469
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Speaker 1: did not just design the place herself. I feel like

470
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: she lives in a high rise and again everything is

471
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: very like sleek lines. But she's got some good blankets,

472
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 1: you know, experta just kind of cozy up and get

473
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Speaker 1: her wine. She probably has a really beautiful, like entertainment

474
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 1: like kitchen type of space, Like I feel like her

475
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 1: friends come over and that's kind of there. There are things.

476
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Speaker 1: So she's got some really cool glass where and stuff

477
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 1: like that. So I think really just neutral colors, very contemporary,

478
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Speaker 1: clean lines, maybe a white couch and a lot of

479
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 1: really cozy throws and pillows for sure. Got it. And

480
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Speaker 1: then we have a throwback. What about Kadija James from

481
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Speaker 1: Living Single. Oh my God, I love Cadija. Wow. Okay,

482
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Speaker 1: so she she's still in like her brown Stone. Okay,

483
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: she's still her brown Stone. So I don't know that

484
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: there's a style that defines her vibe. I think it

485
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Speaker 1: would be like a mix of that New York aesthetic.

486
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Speaker 1: I feel like maybe a lot of like Brown's lead ER's,

487
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: you know, she's playing with a lot of different textures.

488
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Speaker 1: I think she would very much compliment the brown Stone

489
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: aesthetic and having things that are very historical and things

490
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: that she's again acquired through like her publication, and she's

491
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: probably got like a wall of all her cool magazine

492
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 1: covers and stuff like that. Yeah. I think she's definitely

493
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: like probably the epitome of like cozy girl vibes, but

494
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: she's in New York. She's got a really comfy couch,

495
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Speaker 1: and then I think a couple of like really cool

496
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Speaker 1: pieces on the wall. So yeah, definitely want some good

497
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Speaker 1: art and some good stuff on the wall. Nice. So

498
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Speaker 1: what colors are on your radar for personally? I am

499
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Speaker 1: definitely more of like a neutral person. I think in

500
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Speaker 1: my main spaces, I just like things to be timeless,

501
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: and I don't want too much distraction going on. Again,

502
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 1: how I play with bringing vibrancy and life into a

503
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: room is through the textures. But I think one I

504
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Speaker 1: saw a lot of green, like I did a lot

505
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Speaker 1: of green kitchens, and green was like the color of

506
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Speaker 1: the year. Every version of green, you know, olive and

507
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Speaker 1: a brighter green. I feel like blue is going to

508
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: kind of have like a moment. I love like really

509
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: soft pottery blues. I think that's gonna be an interesting

510
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: material and color palette in spaces for big items. I

511
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 1: feel like people are gonna wanna again have that color

512
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: in their couches and just do something different. But I

513
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Speaker 1: think that like really soft, kind of calming blue is

514
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,479
Speaker 1: going to be something that we're going to see a

515
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 1: lot in spaces. But blue just is just a really

516
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: calming color, So it just creates peace. And I think again,

517
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Speaker 1: just coming out of all the craziness of what we've had,

518
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: I think it's just gonna be like everybody wants peaceful

519
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,479
Speaker 1: in calming, but they don't want to be boring still, right,

520
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: Like everybody's not gonna have a light house that's just

521
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: not functional and that this doesn't make sense for everybody,

522
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Speaker 1: so that's what I'm thinking. Got it more from my

523
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Speaker 1: conversation with Tiffany after the break and what are some

524
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Speaker 1: of the black owned brands in home decor, interior decorating

525
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: that you think we should be paying attention to. So

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Speaker 1: what might you sauld be using in her apartment or

527
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: people who want to feel their homes with black owned brands.

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Speaker 1: The first one that I really love is Claire Paint.

529
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Speaker 1: Claire Paint is owned by Nicole Gibbons, and it's a

530
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Speaker 1: black owned paint company, and they just make the process

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Speaker 1: so much simpler for consumers. We all know, like when

532
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Speaker 1: you go into a paint store, there's twenty thousand options

533
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Speaker 1: and once you finally do pick the color, now you

534
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Speaker 1: have to pick the finish, and it's very stressful. What

535
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: she does is she just edits that down for you.

536
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: So she's created a smaller palette of colors of her

537
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: favorite hues that have really just simple undertones to them.

538
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: So even a shade of white, you know, you can

539
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: have hundreds of different whites that have cooler undertones or

540
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: warmer undertones, and we all know it is like choosing

541
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Speaker 1: the wrong color can completely throw off a space. So

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Speaker 1: I really like her paint company because they just make

543
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Speaker 1: the process easier. They send you the colors, they send

544
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: you these large format sample towels that you can just

545
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: throw up on the wall. They have like they're adhesive

546
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: on the back, and then you can actually visualize and

547
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: see like how it's going to look in your space.

548
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,719
Speaker 1: So she's definitely one that i'd love. There's a company

549
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: called Leonetto, and I'm like so about my linen's and

550
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: I've told a ton of people I think there's a

551
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: quality in linen that I don't think that cotton is

552
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: able to replicate. And I think when you switched to

553
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: linen sheets, you just completely never want to go back

554
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: because of the cooling nature of them, because of the softness.

555
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: Also for me, because of the lived in nature and

556
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: how it visually looks, so you don't have to have

557
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: that like, oh my bed has to be completely made

558
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: up and perfect every single day. With the linen, it's

559
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: a relaxed feeling. It still just looks like really cozy,

560
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: like you want to jump back in bed. So there's

561
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: a company Lenetto, and it's black owned and he makes

562
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 1: quality linen sheets that people can purchase. So I think

563
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: if you're thinking about supporting and having some accessory. I

564
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 1: think that's a great one. And then I definitely have

565
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: to say, like Duet Interiors, which is my brand. We

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Speaker 1: have right now just pillows, but we are launching furniture

567
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: in the beginning of next year as well, and we'll

568
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: create some you know, our own version of linens and

569
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Speaker 1: my favorite like Japanese towels and what that looks like

570
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: for do it. So I have a little bit of patients,

571
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: but definitely support us as a black own brand as well.

572
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: I love it. We will definitely keep our eye on that.

573
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Speaker 1: So what are some items that we should splurge on?

574
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Speaker 1: And then what are the things that we may be

575
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: able to do secondhand or like not spend as much

576
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: money on to make a big impact in our spaces.

577
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: Perfect question. So the items you should always think about

578
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: splurging on our high traffic items, and when I say

579
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Speaker 1: high traffic items, things that are getting a lot of

580
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: wear and tear every single day. So if I had

581
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: just had to look around your couch, your bed, maybe

582
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: you're dining table, you know, things that you're sitting at

583
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: every day and you're interacting with and you're gonna have

584
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people on them. You want to make

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00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: sure you're getting quality items and you're spending a little

586
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: bit more for those items. Specifically for couches, usually the

587
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: price point goes up because it's depending on the type

588
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: of frame that you have, a type of foam, or

589
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: the feathers or down that you have within the makeup

590
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: of the couch, what kind of springs it has. So

591
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: all of these little things that go into the build

592
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: of a couch can be the reason a couch last

593
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: for a year and the reason a couch last for

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Speaker 1: thirty years. So I think that's really important. Your couch,

595
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: your bed. For sure, you're always in your bed. You

596
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: want to make sure you have a really cozy quality bed.

597
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: And with your bed, also a mattress. I cannot tell

598
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: how many people really don't think about their mattress and

599
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: how many hours you're spending on that one item. You're

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00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: spending at least eight hours every single day on your mattress.

601
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: So you want to make sure, like that's an item

602
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: that you want to splurge on. You should be able

603
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: to have that mattress for the rest of your life

604
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: and be able to say, regardless of the size, you

605
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: should be able to kind of move it into different

606
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: spaces when you do get your forever home. The thing

607
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: that you asked me earlier, you mentioned this rugs. I

608
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: do not you need to spend thousands of dollars on rugs.

609
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Speaker 1: I would say the only exception that I would have

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00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,239
Speaker 1: here is if you're getting something that's vintage. If you're

611
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: getting something that's like a Moroccan wool and it has

612
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: like everything you wanted, and you're getting it sourced from

613
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: an international dealer, then yes, you're probably gonna pay a

614
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Speaker 1: little bit more because those are also hand woven and

615
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: so they're a little bit more unique, and you're also

616
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Speaker 1: paying for the process. The only other time again that

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00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: you should pay for a rug, and pay a lot

618
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: of money for a rug, is if you have a

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Speaker 1: large space and from a proportion standpoint and scale, you

620
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: need a certain size that is just not available on

621
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Speaker 1: an everyday website. So typically on websites you're getting like

622
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: eight by tens, maybe a nine by twelve, nine by eleven.

623
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: Anything smaller than that is going to be readily available

624
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: for you. That you should not pay thousands for anything

625
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: bigger than that. Thirteen by fifteen, you know, fourteen by sixteens.

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00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: Those are high ticket items because simply because of the

627
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: scale and the size of them, you can find a

628
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: really really quality rug at home Goods like you can

629
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: get one for our hundred and nine dollars. Great tips there.

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Speaker 1: So you've already started sharing a little bit of the

631
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: shopping list with us. But are there other like stores

632
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: we might be able to visit in person as well

633
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: as online stores that you find yourself frequenting or recommending

634
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: a lot. Definitely the big box retailers. The CB two's

635
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: World Market is a great place if you're into kind

636
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: of like boho like botanical kind of vibes. They have

637
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: some really amazing stuff there, and it's a really good

638
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: price point. Target. We all know that we spent a

639
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: ton of money in Target, you know, getting some home accessories,

640
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: so that's a really good price point and they have

641
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: some really good collaborations and quality items there. And I

642
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: love West. Then there's a place called Burke to Core,

643
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite online retailers, just because

644
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: they have so many different items from a bunch of

645
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: different places. Industry West is a really great place. They

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Speaker 1: have a physical store in New York, I believe, But

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Speaker 1: everything else is online, but they have some really great

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Speaker 1: trend product as well as things that are just pieces

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Speaker 1: you'll have forever. Article is a great store that just

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Speaker 1: offers really quality pieces for a great price. And then

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Speaker 1: if you're in New York, the possibilities are endless. There's

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Speaker 1: a place called France and Son, and France and Son

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Speaker 1: is well known for having replicas because they're really paying

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Speaker 1: homage and inspiration to some of the you know, high

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Speaker 1: ticket items and designed items, but they have some really

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Speaker 1: quality pieces for a fraction of the cost. So France

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Speaker 1: and Son is a great place, and I think they

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Speaker 1: have a hundred thousand items on their website that you

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Speaker 1: can filter through and go through. Another place is castor

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Speaker 1: Lely and they're also based in New York. They're a

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Speaker 1: little bit more limited in the amount of colors that

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Speaker 1: they offer, but they have really quality couches and sideboards

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Speaker 1: and entertainment centers made from real wood. And again they

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Speaker 1: are really approachable price points. And then if you are

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Speaker 1: wanting to spend a little more or you have a

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Speaker 1: little bit more disposable income for some of the items

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Speaker 1: and you're looking for something a little bit more unique.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite websites is first DIBs and Cherish

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Speaker 1: and essentially what they are is they are an online

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Speaker 1: retailer that really sources creators and makers that are independent

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Speaker 1: in making their own product from across the globe, as

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Speaker 1: well as vintage suppliers and makers, so you can get

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Speaker 1: some one off pieces, you can customize pieces. Those are

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Speaker 1: where I go when I like, I need something really

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Speaker 1: unique for clients I want standout pieces. That's where I

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Speaker 1: always go, Like, that's the first place I usually shop,

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Speaker 1: and then I try to figure out from a price

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Speaker 1: point standpoint, do I need to go somewhere else to

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Speaker 1: get a version of that that still creates a moment

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Speaker 1: without having a spurge at that price point. So many

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Speaker 1: have one more, Actually sorry, there's one more. E Q

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Speaker 1: three great great, great, like I got my bed from there,

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Speaker 1: A great website, also really great customer service. So I

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Speaker 1: cannot stress enough that a lot of the times, a

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Speaker 1: lot of the same product is available on a lot

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Speaker 1: of different websites. Someplaces just source from a lot of

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Speaker 1: the same manufacturers, but the quality of customer service is

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Speaker 1: going to be the reason that I shop at a

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Speaker 1: place or I don't shop at a place. So EQU

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Speaker 1: three is really great, just because they take care of you.

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Speaker 1: They're really up to date on you know, like the

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Speaker 1: timelines of when things are going to come and the

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Speaker 1: quality of the items will return. Something that's important to

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Speaker 1: me as well. So sometimes I'll sacrifice on price point

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Speaker 1: or seeing something in person just because I know that

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Speaker 1: maybe a website is going to provide a high level

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Speaker 1: of quality service. And equ three has stores in New

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Speaker 1: York and San Francisco and a couple of different places

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Speaker 1: around the country. Got it. So are there other tools

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Speaker 1: you already mentioned Pinterests for like trying to get a

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Speaker 1: mood boy together. Are there other tools or resources that

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Speaker 1: you would suggest for people who are trying to like

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Speaker 1: figure out their style or managing the different pieces that

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Speaker 1: they're trying to put together. Yeah. The first thing is

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Speaker 1: definitely Pinterest. You guys should follow me on Pinterest. It's

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Speaker 1: the plant Mommy because I save a lot of really

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Speaker 1: crazy things on there that just kind of like visual

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Speaker 1: board in one place. That's important. Also, books like I

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Speaker 1: have so many design books and I'll just go in

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Speaker 1: and take pictures of things or I'll take like photo copies,

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Speaker 1: So I think that's important. Like the old school method

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Speaker 1: of going through magazines and going through books and seeing

713
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: things like magazines is going to be your latest and greatest,

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Speaker 1: so you're gonna be able to get trends from there

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Speaker 1: and see what's actually happening in different homes around the world.

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Speaker 1: And then the books are gonna be almost like a

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Speaker 1: pass from history, so you're gonna get the historical context

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Speaker 1: of you know, where some of these designs came from,

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Speaker 1: or different makers that have been around that people are

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Speaker 1: now circling back to and becoming popular. So I feel

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Speaker 1: like a mix of those things. Like it's just nice

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Speaker 1: to be able to physically put up a mood board

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Speaker 1: to see things, and again not just seeing it in

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Speaker 1: a digital form. I think it's important, like in using

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Speaker 1: your Instagram as a mood board, and I mean that

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Speaker 1: by who you follow. I think if you're inspired by

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Speaker 1: you know, different Instagram handles or magazines and websites, follow

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Speaker 1: them on your feed so you can start to see

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Speaker 1: some of that stuff on your feed and just start

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Speaker 1: saving it. There's a safe feature saving into a little

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Speaker 1: folder that is, you know, whatever the inspiration you're trying

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Speaker 1: to go for. It's just nice to see things on

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Speaker 1: a daily basis and you start clicking around and you

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Speaker 1: start to figure out, oh, I like this person, but

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Speaker 1: they follow this other person, and now I'm super into

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Speaker 1: their work. And it also allows for me to be

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Speaker 1: able to support a lot of independent makers, so ceramicists

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Speaker 1: and artists and people that are just making really cool goods.

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Speaker 1: I find a lot on Instagram, and when you find

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Speaker 1: them early, you're getting them usually at pretty approachable prices.

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Speaker 1: You can get really unique things that can separate your household,

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Speaker 1: and you can also support a small business. I love that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for that, Tiffany. So where can

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Speaker 1: we keep up with all of the incredible work that

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Speaker 1: you're doing and continue to support you once your line

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Speaker 1: comes out with your website as well as your social

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Speaker 1: media handles. Thank you all for the kind of words.

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Speaker 1: So you can go to www. Dot duet and that's

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Speaker 1: Duet with two t s Interiors dot com. Or you

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Speaker 1: guys can follow me on Instagram at the plant Mommy

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Speaker 1: or Pinterest at the plant Mommy and that's the plant

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Speaker 1: and then m A m I. But yeah, I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: active on my social media. You send me a message,

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Speaker 1: I send things all the time, People send me inspiration

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Speaker 1: and we kind of just have a lot of conversations,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, social media is going to be a good

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Speaker 1: place to keep up with me and what I got

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Speaker 1: going on. And then in the beginning of two, I

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Speaker 1: have a TV show that's coming out with Marcy Martin

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Speaker 1: on Discovery Plus Slash h G TV. So once that launches,

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Speaker 1: you guys can watch me on TV and kind of

762
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: get some of those same design tips because we're really

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Speaker 1: focusing on apartments and rental spaces and quick fixes that

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Speaker 1: are really impactful in people's homes. Who we love it,

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Speaker 1: we will be locked in. So, Tiffany, this episode is

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Speaker 1: a part of our January jump Start series. What words

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Speaker 1: of encouragement do you have for folks who are listening

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00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: who want to start designing their spaces in to so

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Speaker 1: my words of encouragement would be, again, be patient with yourself.

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Speaker 1: Rome wasn't built overnight, right, so just have a little

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Speaker 1: patience in the process, but enjoy the process. I think

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Speaker 1: that is for me one of the most fulfilling parts

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Speaker 1: is being able to, you know, be on the hunt

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Speaker 1: and find items that nobody else has and putting it

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00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: all together, and also like leaning on your resources and

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Speaker 1: your family and traditions and things that you know you

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Speaker 1: can acquire from homes and things that have been passed down.

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Speaker 1: So I think building a home and creating a safe

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Speaker 1: place that feels like you and makes you inspired to

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Speaker 1: go out and conquer the world should not be taken lightly.

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Speaker 1: So really, just enjoy the moment. Make sure that you

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Speaker 1: feel like it's representing your personality, your family, and it's

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Speaker 1: creating conversations within your home with your friends and family

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Speaker 1: and your guests. And have fun with it. Like there's

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Speaker 1: no rules to design, Be comfort it in your work,

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Speaker 1: Be confident in whatever pieces you've put together. It's supposed

787
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Speaker 1: to be unique, so everybody is not supposed to like it.

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Speaker 1: It's important that you like it, and it's important that

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Speaker 1: things are the right size and scale, so make sure

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Speaker 1: you measure everything first. We love it. Thank you so much, Tiffany.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate all this incredible information. You're welcome and

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Speaker 1: so nice chatting with you, guys. Tiffany has shared all

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Speaker 1: the goodies with us today. I'm so thankful she was

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Speaker 1: able to join us to find out more about her

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Speaker 1: and her work. Be sure to visit the show notes

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Speaker 1: A look forward to continue in this conversation with you

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