WEBVTT - WWE Elimination Chamber Best Bets and Predictions (Ep. 675)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in everybody to betting pros. It's time to place

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<v Speaker 1>your bets. It's be Joey Big Joe b Zapia and

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to look at the elimination chamber. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>right this Saturday, somebody is going to wrestle Mania. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be me. We just got back from Las

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas for our team trick, where I got to hang

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<v Speaker 1>out with my good pal Terrell Ferman Junior, who's on

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<v Speaker 1>the show today, and of course sal Stefanelli. We are

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<v Speaker 1>here breaking down on betting pros the elimination chaper for

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<v Speaker 1>ww and it should be a very entertaining program with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of questions and a lot of chaos. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like still possibly to happen. It's a small card.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna run through it pretty quickly. We're gonna see

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<v Speaker 1>if there's some value potentially on some of the wagers

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<v Speaker 1>we can make here on this elimination chamber. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in Toronto, in the homeland of sal So,

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<v Speaker 1>but not close enough for him to be attending on

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<v Speaker 1>this one. But I'm gonna ask you a question, Salas

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<v Speaker 1>start off, what do you find more frustrating the Dwayne

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson promos in twenty twenty five where he goes from

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<v Speaker 1>heel to face, from face to heel every five seconds

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<v Speaker 1>and rambles on and on for twenty minutes. Or the

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<v Speaker 1>Hulk Hogan interviews where he continuously just lies about everything

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<v Speaker 1>that we've already seen and witnessed in person and know

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<v Speaker 1>that he's lying about. What's more frustrating to you in

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<v Speaker 1>this era?

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's enough line in the world as is.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take a rock trying to steal someone's soul over

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<v Speaker 2>that any day of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah. Yes, the soul stealing of Cody Rhodes, which is

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<v Speaker 1>on the table at elimination chamber, because we don't get

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<v Speaker 1>the rock there too. So to that Pointterrell, we all

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<v Speaker 1>waited with baited breath to see maybe we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to do the Cody rock match after all, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it just got weird, And now we're going to maybe

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sort of have some semblance of moving forward

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<v Speaker 1>an elimination chamber, and I think we have to start

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<v Speaker 1>there because depending on whether or not, Terrell, you think

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<v Speaker 1>that Cody is going to sell out and go heal,

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<v Speaker 1>that basically is how you see elimination chamber, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to write that story of whoever wins either being the

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<v Speaker 1>heel to Cody saying no, I'm not going to sell out,

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<v Speaker 1>or it's who's gonna be the face to Cody becoming

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<v Speaker 1>the corporate champion. Do you agree?

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<v Speaker 3>Drum, Yeah, pretty much. I'm very interested where things are going.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna talk about the betting odds in a second,

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<v Speaker 3>but a lot of these storylines just feel like they

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<v Speaker 3>kind of don't make sense. And if but it does

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<v Speaker 3>if Cody turns heel, Like if Cody turns heel, that

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<v Speaker 3>puts Cody and Rollins back on the table, and that

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<v Speaker 3>gives that a legit storyline, and that gives something that's

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<v Speaker 3>been building because they just went through this last WrestleMania

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<v Speaker 3>and you go a year later and now you're Buddy

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<v Speaker 3>Buddy drinking Tea Monta Tequila with the rock and all that, Like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not cool. So that reinvigorates seth Rollins for me.

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<v Speaker 3>But then it's like where do all the other Domino

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<v Speaker 3>pieces fall? If you go like that, what happens with

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<v Speaker 3>Sina's people think a lot of people think Sena is

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<v Speaker 3>gonna win here, Like what happens does that mean that

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<v Speaker 3>we're getting a heel Cody versus a Overseena. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very interesting and I'm lost and perplexed at everything

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<v Speaker 3>right now, but I think that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, on you for popping the rocks Tequila

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<v Speaker 1>here on the show. As if that guy doesn't get

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<v Speaker 1>enough publicity, sorry spot, shame on you, at least not yet,

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<v Speaker 1>unless you want to make a sponsor rocket in case,

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<v Speaker 1>I love m be it.

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<v Speaker 3>A responsible, responsible tre minus sponsor. I could be that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh we've had Tekilo companies in the past, and I

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<v Speaker 1>am all for it. I would love to get the

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<v Speaker 1>sponsor of the show to be at tequila company again.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with the men's elimination shaper, though, because John

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<v Speaker 1>Cena is the very heavy favorite, it doesn't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>he's the guy that turns corporate champion at this point

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<v Speaker 1>in his career. To make John Cena heel now is

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<v Speaker 1>such a waste. If you were going to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>you should have done it ages ago and seen what

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<v Speaker 1>was in that tank. I don't think the last run

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<v Speaker 1>of Sena is going to be that. He is the

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<v Speaker 1>heavy favorite. He went from minus four hundred about a

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<v Speaker 1>week of change ago to minus two thousand, then minus

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand again a couple of days ago, and now

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<v Speaker 1>as of recording this minus eighteen hundred. So there's no

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<v Speaker 1>value on John Cena at this stage. It's looking for

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<v Speaker 1>other ways to go. Let's start with CM Punk, who's

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<v Speaker 1>a plus two to seventy five right now. So the

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<v Speaker 1>CM punk option here is interesting because if you take

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<v Speaker 1>a look at what cmpunk said on his return, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not here to make friends, I'm here to make money.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he is the anti establishment guy, the anti establishment guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Going establishment is a way you can go Seeampunk can

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<v Speaker 1>pull anything off like that. There are some misgivings I

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<v Speaker 1>have about that because if you go back to WrestleMania

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen when they did this with Stone Cold Steve Austin,

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<v Speaker 1>it felt kind of flat, like it just the people

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like it, they didn't want it. The anti hero

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<v Speaker 1>is the people's real champion, and that was always Stone Cold,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like that would be a similar feel,

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<v Speaker 1>although if anybody can get it over in the microphone,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be CM Punk. Can you make a case

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<v Speaker 1>at two seventy five for the Punker to win elimination Chamber?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can tell yourself a story for like

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<v Speaker 2>sixty percent of the people in the elimination Chamber, including Punk,

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<v Speaker 2>And I understand Punk is the anti hero. You kind

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<v Speaker 2>of really enjoy him in his current iteration in the

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<v Speaker 2>day right now, But it would be an interesting dynamic

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<v Speaker 2>to see play out as Punk like the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five version of the corporate champ under the Rocks. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, do we say tutelage leadership.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty year old.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, I'm not sure what we call it what it is, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but as the you know, second odds on favorite, he

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<v Speaker 2>presents much better value than John Cena, and I would

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<v Speaker 2>be interested to see uh sena who basically has like

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<v Speaker 2>no bs, which he's done up till now. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned, not here to make friends. I'm here to

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<v Speaker 2>make money. If you align with the Rock, that's one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent what you're gonna do. Whether you get paid

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<v Speaker 2>in like actual dollars or just tequila cases a different story.

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<v Speaker 2>But seeing Punk go in winning the elimination Chamber because

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<v Speaker 2>he decided to be the one to take up the

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<v Speaker 2>Rock on his offer first, is that how it would work?

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<v Speaker 2>Like does he go up and interrupt Cody and the

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<v Speaker 2>rock doing there? Will you sell your soul to me? Bit?

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<v Speaker 2>Which is a question I have for you guys later on,

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<v Speaker 2>is what happens first in this pay per view? Is

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<v Speaker 2>it old Rock and Cody or Ema?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is. I think it is Rock and Cody,

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<v Speaker 1>and to me then it feels like Cody's saying no

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<v Speaker 1>and then some kind of drama unfolding. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>throw this at U Terrell when it comes to Sempunk too,

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<v Speaker 1>because looking ahead on the calendar to next year, the

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<v Speaker 1>Royal Rumble next year is in Saudi Arabia, not a

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<v Speaker 1>place necessarily where you expect to see CM Punk for

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<v Speaker 1>his own private reasons which I can certainly understand, which

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<v Speaker 1>means he's either champed then or he's just not participating.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that put more of a pressure to put him

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<v Speaker 1>into this main event? Because if he asked me a

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<v Speaker 1>week ago this time, before the rock stuff came up,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the biggest match you could do was Cempunk

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<v Speaker 1>and Cody Rhodes. I thought it at Royal Rumble. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get that right. Nobody got that right pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you think that there's sort of a time

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<v Speaker 1>element here where if you don't pull the trigger on Punk.

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<v Speaker 1>You might miss out on twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so. I think that there's still for

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<v Speaker 3>him to get there. I think that we've seen the

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<v Speaker 3>World Championship go over at SummerSlam, and that's something that

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<v Speaker 3>I could see for a Punk. But it really feels

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<v Speaker 3>like the WrestleMania main event is going to be it,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I'm looking at it, now, how does Punk

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<v Speaker 3>get there without winning the elimination Chamber Dog? He still

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<v Speaker 3>has a favorite to Cash. He still has a favorite

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<v Speaker 3>to Cash, and what.

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<v Speaker 1>Walk me through that?

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<v Speaker 3>So, but the favor was with Paul hamon how those

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<v Speaker 3>are ways that I could see that this plays out.

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<v Speaker 3>And I kind of have it played out in two

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<v Speaker 3>ways where one Punk wins the chamber and one Punk

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't win the chamber. One Punk wins the chamber. Is

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<v Speaker 3>I was watching TikTok as I normally do every single day,

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<v Speaker 3>and of course during this time of year, you start

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<v Speaker 3>to get elimination Chamber footage and the clip of Sean

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<v Speaker 3>Michael's coming out of the Sewers to super kick the

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<v Speaker 3>Undertaker and give Chris Jericho the World Championship. It played

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like ooh, Roman and Seth got some

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<v Speaker 3>serious beef after that Royal Rumble, and I could see, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe a little favorite cash Roman comes in, gets involved

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<v Speaker 3>in elimination Chamber, takes out Seth. That sets up south

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<v Speaker 3>in Roman at WrestleMania, and then you go ahead and

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<v Speaker 3>you get Punk Cody, which I think would be the

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<v Speaker 3>match if it's not going to be a Roman Cody

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<v Speaker 3>and beat Punk Cody. I would like to see that.

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<v Speaker 3>So I could see that, or I could just see

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like Punk talking about how he's been talking

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<v Speaker 3>in interviews of like, hey, I actually proposed me to

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<v Speaker 3>lose stuff a lot more than me winning. I would

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<v Speaker 3>like the people to see the chase of me chasing

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<v Speaker 3>to get to that title. So I could see Punk saying, hey, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's my time to win yet. And

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<v Speaker 3>I also still have this favorite cash in why don't

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<v Speaker 3>I lose this? And then we build this next two

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<v Speaker 3>months going into WrestleMania on this favor that gets me

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<v Speaker 3>into the main event, and that something else kind of happened.

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<v Speaker 3>So I could see it playing out different ways, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think that favor has to come in.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you mentioned Seth Rowins Drell he's a plus two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand right now. I don't see the pathway there, and

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<v Speaker 1>we've done a trilogy of matches already. It just seems

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<v Speaker 1>like a round peg square hole to me. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>see a case for sus Seth Rowlins in this chamber

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<v Speaker 1>coming out to the victor, because I think that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the harder cells in this point.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't until Friday, not until the Rock segment. Once

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<v Speaker 3>the Rock segment happened, and then we came back on

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<v Speaker 3>Monday and Seth came out and approached Cody. It seems

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<v Speaker 3>like that's probably a long term storyline build to when

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<v Speaker 3>Cody actually eventually does turn heel and agrees to work

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<v Speaker 3>with the Rock and Seth Rollins coming back during that.

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<v Speaker 3>But like I could see them pulling the sugar that

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<v Speaker 3>on that now and saying, hey, like we need somebody

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<v Speaker 3>to win. We're about to have a bunch of chaos,

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<v Speaker 3>and we've got it now. We got a book Roman

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<v Speaker 3>in a match, and I think that Drew and Priest

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<v Speaker 3>are kind of going on this collision course where they're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna meet up at Mania. So like you're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get everybody booked and you're trying to figure out what's

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<v Speaker 3>the right situation for everybody, and so it could be, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe we do have to throw Rollins into a main event.

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<v Speaker 3>We know it's gonna be a great match because Seth

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<v Speaker 3>Rollins is an amazing performer. So I could see them saying, hey, like,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, it's steps time, we're gonna throw them in there.

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<v Speaker 3>But it just feels like the Roman thing is loam

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<v Speaker 3>being over my head too much, where it feels like

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<v Speaker 3>we're getting Seth Roman now and not waiting anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Where I struggle style with Seth is that we've

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<v Speaker 1>already seen corporate sell out Seth Rawlins, Like, we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>that storyline. I don't want to see Seth Rawlins do

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<v Speaker 1>that again. We've already done that with Triple H before

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<v Speaker 1>and it was good. We did it, It's good. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do that again? I think to Trerell's point,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe flipping it around the other way is more interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>But it just feels at this point a little I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think there's more heat with Rowlins and Roman,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that is more interesting a story to tell.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think it's imperative that we have a WrestleMania

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<v Speaker 1>finally that doesn't have Roman reigns just once. Let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a breather from him in the main event, because look,

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<v Speaker 1>I love Roman, dude. I supported Roman when nobody else

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<v Speaker 1>like Roman and everybody's crapping on Roman. I thought they

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<v Speaker 1>should have turned him heel the night after the Undertaker match.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's still may I think even though he's

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<v Speaker 3>not quote unquote in the main event. If you tell

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<v Speaker 3>me you have a card and you have seen a

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<v Speaker 3>let's go with the highest ods Sana Cody Rhoades on

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<v Speaker 3>a on a card that is quote unquote in the

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<v Speaker 3>main event, JAMESO and gun Thro that's quote unquote the

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<v Speaker 3>main event. And then you have Seth Rollins and Roman

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<v Speaker 3>Reigns on a card. I don't care if you call

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<v Speaker 3>it the main event night. I think that it has

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<v Speaker 3>main event pedigree.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. I would put Roman and Seth,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if Punk is in that as a three way

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<v Speaker 1>match at the top of Night one. And I would

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<v Speaker 1>also have Gunther go over by the way on Jay

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<v Speaker 1>Usso and make Gunter the new killer of WWE and

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<v Speaker 1>the new long term champion. But so, do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any case for Seth Rawlins, Because again, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>him getting involved in this particular end of the storyline

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<v Speaker 1>with Cody. Although the Raw promo was really good and

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<v Speaker 1>really fun, I think that's a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>red herring they were just throwing out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's kind of to when we had the

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<v Speaker 2>go home show of Raw and Seth Rawlins was involved

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<v Speaker 2>in the gunther promos, like, oh hey, maybe Seth Rawlins's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be the one that wins wins wrestleming and fights

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<v Speaker 2>a gun there. I think there's a lot of deja

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<v Speaker 2>vu in wrestling, and it might be like a lazy

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<v Speaker 2>trope to think, well, yeah, Seth has done it before,

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<v Speaker 2>but his character right now is kind of stagnant. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he just keeps going on and on and on about no,

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<v Speaker 2>I did this for you, Cody, and it's all gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go to waste if you're just gonna side with the Rock.

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<v Speaker 1>And he become the Roads. I did it for the Rock.

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<v Speaker 2>And he has that history of being a Weasley turncoat

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<v Speaker 2>right and becoming the corporate champ. Does he just do

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<v Speaker 2>it again, but this time with the Rock. Got at

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<v Speaker 2>plus two thousand odds to we get heel Seth Rollins.

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<v Speaker 3>The corporate champ? Well, why isn't it Cody, Like, why

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't Cody just turn heel and Rolin stays who he is?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll answer that, I think because then it has to

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<v Speaker 1>Then I think you want ce M Punk to continue

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<v Speaker 1>to be the anti hero, like that's where he lives

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<v Speaker 1>so well he is. I mean the people love Seeam Punk.

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<v Speaker 1>He definitely gets outside of Cody. The Juso entrance Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's more of a vibe than it is

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<v Speaker 1>people really investing too much in Jay Luso. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>seem Punk that gets him off their seat, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think he would be the better guy to pair with

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<v Speaker 1>Cody in that sense. Then seth Rawlins seth Rowlins will

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<v Speaker 1>be a Bee choice for me. I think a far

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<v Speaker 1>Bee choice like the a choice is clearly see mpunk.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get to some of the other guys

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<v Speaker 1>here too. I don't think it's Logan Paul's turn. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just putting that out there. And Damian Priice, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen enough of that, especially in those main event matches.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not quite up to snuff in those.

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<v Speaker 3>Hasn't been penned since o Sober has not been pinned. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>he has been protected, not been pinned since ots sober, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's fine. This Yeah, I was about to say, this

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<v Speaker 3>will be the first time he eats a pin since

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<v Speaker 3>otsber like, that's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Good. Well, they had to build him back up because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you take the belt off a guy,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want him to just fade into oblivion. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's relaxed a little bit and I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's found himself again. The guy's kind of looming out

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<v Speaker 1>there at plus nine hundred. It's fascinating to me. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's Drew McIntyre. Now here's why at some point, Cody

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<v Speaker 1>Drew McIntire makes a lot of sense. Especially why do

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<v Speaker 1>you move Drew over to SmackDown when you did, unless

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<v Speaker 1>you are going to few those two guys together. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting one. Once upon a time, the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>was groomed to be the corporate champion, the chosen one

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<v Speaker 1>was Drew McIntyre. I think it would be really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe go back to the old music, maybe go back

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<v Speaker 1>to some old fields there. Sal Can I sell you

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<v Speaker 1>on Drew McIntyre being the dark horse to win this

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<v Speaker 1>because if you see what they've done with the booking recently,

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<v Speaker 1>it's built up all these main event guys and then

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<v Speaker 1>throw a swerve at us. Could they do that again

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<v Speaker 1>here at elimination Chamber, first with Jay Usa with the Rumble,

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<v Speaker 1>and then again with Drew McIntyre.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you don't have to sell me because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>already there. I think there's only two people you can't

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<v Speaker 2>make a case for winning the Chamber. It's Damian Priest

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<v Speaker 2>and Logan Palm. Drew McIntyre would be the perfect choice

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<v Speaker 2>as the corporate champ because I think he'd be more

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<v Speaker 2>than willing to take The Rock up on his offer

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<v Speaker 2>and then eventually find a way to rid of himself

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<v Speaker 2>of the Rock, just to get that championship match of wrestlemanic.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we've seen Drew mcnie. He'll tell you straight to

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<v Speaker 2>your face he hates you. He'll stab you right in

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<v Speaker 2>the front, sady the back, he doesn't care, hates the bloodline.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not a big fan of Code. Right now, all

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<v Speaker 2>he wants is his championship belt that he lost, that

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<v Speaker 2>he feels like he didn't rightfully lose, and he'll do

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<v Speaker 2>anything it takes to get it back. And plus nine

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<v Speaker 2>hundred odds. I don't see why he wouldn't know sprinkle

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<v Speaker 2>a few dollars on that for elimination chamber. He just

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<v Speaker 2>he his persona is Yeah, maybe I'm the corporate champ,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not the corporate stooge. I can fight the

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<v Speaker 2>Rocket every single battle point that they're whatever. This like

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<v Speaker 2>soul stealing plan.

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<v Speaker 1>The Rock as in mind is I'll ask you this,

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<v Speaker 1>Terrell WW loves the big marquee. Sena Rhodes is a

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<v Speaker 1>big WrestleMania I two main event punk code. Any circumstance

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<v Speaker 1>is look, it is not maybe not for you and me,

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<v Speaker 1>but for the more casual fans or the people who

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<v Speaker 1>will turn into peacock is like, oh, I know John

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<v Speaker 1>Cena and could it gets a lot of eyeballs on

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<v Speaker 1>the product whether we like it.

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<v Speaker 3>If this Scena roads for real, I think that confirms

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<v Speaker 3>for me what I already knew is that Cody is

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<v Speaker 3>legit number two in the company. Like he's legit number

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<v Speaker 3>two in the company. He should not have to play,

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<v Speaker 3>He should not have to play into the Sena farewell

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<v Speaker 3>to are angle at WrestleMania. Here. I don't disagree because

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<v Speaker 3>if he wins, If he wins, what did you do

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<v Speaker 3>you beat? However, Old John Cena and if you lose,

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<v Speaker 3>you just lost to a Howard over old John Like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really like it. There's no real win there for Cody,

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<v Speaker 3>and it would just it's solidified.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Hogan Warrior all over again, which is I never

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<v Speaker 1>wanted in the first place.

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<v Speaker 3>It really shouldn't be that. It would solidify Cody as

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<v Speaker 3>the beat as you know, as much as he wants

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<v Speaker 3>to say he's number one in a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>push for him to be number one, it would solidify

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<v Speaker 3>for me that answer if that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, whether what we agree, but the perception out there

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<v Speaker 1>is Sena is a Markey match. We know that. See

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<v Speaker 1>a punk Cody Roads is a Marque match. We already

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<v Speaker 1>know Roman Punk, like all the combinations there is, Drew McIntyre,

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<v Speaker 1>Cody Rhodes. I know for maybe us as wrestling fans,

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<v Speaker 1>But do you think from a business standpoint, wweces that

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<v Speaker 1>potentially as hey, we're making new stars, we're doing this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that big enough for Night two WrestleMania. If the

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<v Speaker 1>Rock is also involved here and Drew McIntyre is his guide,

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<v Speaker 1>does that work for you? Does that move the needle

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<v Speaker 1>in your opinion? From the perspective of the company Toron.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it can because I trust Drew. Drew's had

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<v Speaker 3>an amazing year and I think he does deserve for

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<v Speaker 3>it to be capped off big at WrestleMania. That's why

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of really really wanted some type of triple

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<v Speaker 3>threat between Drew, Seth, and Punk. It felt like that

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<v Speaker 3>would be a great end to a year where all

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<v Speaker 3>three of those guys were feuding with each other. And

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<v Speaker 3>so maybe you know, getting it is the reward. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Drew would be only the second person ever to win

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<v Speaker 3>bat to back elimination chambers if he did this. The

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<v Speaker 3>only person ever to do was Triple H and he

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<v Speaker 3>did it twice. There was a one year gap in

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and three and two thousand and five, but

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<v Speaker 3>there was another time where he had bat to back

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<v Speaker 3>chamber wins. That's the only other person that's they will

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<v Speaker 3>been able to do it bat to be back years and

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<v Speaker 3>that would be Drew in this spot. So if you

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<v Speaker 3>do it, it would be for a big spot light

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<v Speaker 3>to go into a program with the Rock And maybe

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<v Speaker 3>Drew is the corporate champion that we're looking at, so

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<v Speaker 3>I could see an angle there. I just think that

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know I feel like Cody wants that big

0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:18.920
<v Speaker 3>marquee match and I just can't get away with this

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<v Speaker 3>field of this field of choices is punk for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think putting Punk in that match makes it more

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<v Speaker 1>appealing for the marquee. And also to your point, Sal

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<v Speaker 1>you've heard it and I've heard it. Punk's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just here to take pins. Basically at the stage

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<v Speaker 1>of my career, That's what I'm here to do. If

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<v Speaker 1>Punk takes the pin, it protects Cody, right because Cody

0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:40.159
<v Speaker 1>doesn't lose Drew pins and there's a history there with

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<v Speaker 1>those guys. So in a lot of ways, you protect Cody,

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<v Speaker 1>you take the belt off him, you make a new star,

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<v Speaker 1>You have Drew McIntyre and the rock on SmackDown the

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<v Speaker 1>next week. There's a lot there that you can and

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<v Speaker 1>then you can run Cody Drew McIntyre through the summer

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<v Speaker 1>into Summer Slam. I think that's pretty appealing. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think?

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<v Speaker 2>So, like I said, we can make a story for

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<v Speaker 2>four of these six guys, and just I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>go back to Trerell's point about like the marquee and

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest matchup. At the end of the day, we're

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<v Speaker 2>just talking about dollars and cents and the biggest marque

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<v Speaker 2>match up. There's a reason why John Seen is like

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<v Speaker 2>minus eighteen hundred favorite, Like that is legitimately the biggest

0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:19.800
<v Speaker 2>match you can put on right now, not only for like.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to see the old John Cena in

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<v Speaker 3>the ring anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>No, there's a reason why the wrestling is built on nostalgia.

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<v Speaker 1>Look a Cina, Logan Paul is something you could do

0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:32.800
<v Speaker 1>and Sina will be completely over. Do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>give Logan Paul to Johnsen as his final wrestle media match?

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's a question. I think it's probably better suited

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<v Speaker 1>for somebody else. I mean, we saw the Austin theory

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<v Speaker 1>I think a couple of years ago that didn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that rub didn't quite exactly work the way

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<v Speaker 1>Vince McMahon hoped it would. At the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>here's how I'm betting it. Cmpunk plus two seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>and then sprinkle of Drew McIntyre plus nine hundred because

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<v Speaker 1>there's no value on John Cen and you have to

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<v Speaker 1>let it roll here. Do you guys agree or disagree

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<v Speaker 1>with that? G Sow? What's your strategy? For this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for me, it's Sina, then Punk and then Drew.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you can't, I mean it minus eighteen hundred, you

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<v Speaker 1>just can't. I guess just it's so out of bounds there, Terrell,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your strategy for the men's elimination Chamber?

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<v Speaker 3>It's just punk for me. I've talked myself in Sue

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<v Speaker 3>a situation where we get some type of external forces here,

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<v Speaker 3>and punk is the bit of factor.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's switch over to the women's and then we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about Kevin Owens and Sammy Zane. Also, I

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<v Speaker 1>got the bet of elimination chamber for you. It's coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>So don't miss out here on this one. Terrell, you were,

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<v Speaker 1>I think ahead of the curve here. You were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Bianca. Well, when we were talking about the roll rumble,

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought they were gonna pass her over this time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just because they had the tag belts. Well

0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:48.479
<v Speaker 1>they don't have the tag belts anymore. They freed her up.

0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Live Morgan. I can't believe this number didn't move more

0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.000
<v Speaker 1>in the other direction. It went from five hundred to

0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:56.920
<v Speaker 1>plus four fifty. Now that her Rouco Rodriguez have taken

0:20:56.960 --> 0:20:59.160
<v Speaker 1>the Tag Team Championships. I think that all but eliminates

0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:01.399
<v Speaker 1>live Morgan. It's too soon to have a Lexa Bliss.

0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.119
<v Speaker 1>That makes no sense. Bailey, makes no sense. There's just

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<v Speaker 1>nothing going on there.

0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:07.080
<v Speaker 3>Man are probably going to get into a program with

0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:10.320
<v Speaker 3>each other around Yania for exactly Yeah.

0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:12.800
<v Speaker 1>So to me at this point, it's Bianca bel Air.

0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Now it's just whether or not you think jad Car

0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Gill comes into this match and gets involved or not,

0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:20.199
<v Speaker 1>or do we wait for WrestleMania. Here's my pitch. I

0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:22.240
<v Speaker 1>pitch it the salt before the show, before you got here.

0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:25.080
<v Speaker 1>What do you think of this? You don't do it

0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:30.000
<v Speaker 1>in elimination chamber. You wait for WrestleMania. You have her

0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:32.879
<v Speaker 1>come out there and everybody thinks it's Naomi, but it

0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:36.040
<v Speaker 1>turns out it's not Naomi. It's actually Bianca who did

0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:39.560
<v Speaker 1>the deed, and then you have her takeout Bianca cost

0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:42.000
<v Speaker 1>her the championship. That's how Rha gets over again, and

0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:45.520
<v Speaker 1>then you spurn that feud off from there. Your thoughts

0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:50.439
<v Speaker 1>on that, because otherwise, again it's just kind of lazy booking,

0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:52.040
<v Speaker 1>which is what's been going on here in the women's

0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:53.840
<v Speaker 1>division for quite some time. In the triple h reshim.

0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:55.879
<v Speaker 1>As good as the men's stuff has been, the women's

0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:58.600
<v Speaker 1>division has been lazy booking. We got Charlotte Flair, we

0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:02.240
<v Speaker 1>said it, it happened. With Tiffy, we said it happened.

0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:04.719
<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is where we're going with this

0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:06.399
<v Speaker 1>next one here, unless we're gonna make a three way

0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:08.439
<v Speaker 1>dance to put EO involved in this one too, What

0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:09.160
<v Speaker 1>do you think, trol?

0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:11.520
<v Speaker 3>I'd hate to throw more shade at Sana and Cody Rhods.

0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:14.480
<v Speaker 3>But if the odds are true and that happens, and

0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:18.840
<v Speaker 3>the odds happen like odds stay same for both chamber matches,

0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Ria versus Bianca is significantly a better match than Cody

0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:30.080
<v Speaker 3>Rhods and Sena like it. I mean. And the thing

0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:34.240
<v Speaker 3>is that's really frustrating is that if Bianca does win,

0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:37.560
<v Speaker 3>is I feel like they rushed it. I needed Ria

0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:40.399
<v Speaker 3>and Bianca to be something that was building over the

0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:43.880
<v Speaker 3>course of a year, that it was hits there, hits there.

0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:48.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm getting all excited bubbly in the fields. I'm like, yes, yes,

0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:50.199
<v Speaker 3>this is gonna be a feud for the ages. And

0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:51.760
<v Speaker 3>now we're at a point where I don't even know

0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:54.000
<v Speaker 3>who the heel in the feud? Is is there even

0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:55.320
<v Speaker 3>going to be a heel in his feud?

0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:58.879
<v Speaker 1>But what well it could be Bianca if Jade returns,

0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:01.320
<v Speaker 1>because then it makes her look shady and bad and

0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:03.639
<v Speaker 1>all that. So again, it's just whether you want to

0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:05.520
<v Speaker 1>pull the trigger on her, ripping the door off the

0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:08.080
<v Speaker 1>elimination chamber, or do you want to wait for mania.

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:10.520
<v Speaker 3>But now you're at a business standpoint of is it

0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:13.240
<v Speaker 3>even a good business decision to pull the trigger on

0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:16.360
<v Speaker 3>a heel Bianca? Do you know how over Bianca bell

0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:19.080
<v Speaker 3>Air is like? But she's a little still in minds

0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:22.679
<v Speaker 3>of kids and as a role model and all of that.

0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:25.760
<v Speaker 3>She is incredibly over. She's one of the top superstars,

0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:29.640
<v Speaker 3>not just women superstars overall in the entire business. Her

0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:32.880
<v Speaker 3>name is on every flyer, every poster. She was all

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:36.000
<v Speaker 3>overaw on Netflix, despite sitting in the crowd, like, I

0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 3>just don't know in a business standpoint, if it's just

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:41.240
<v Speaker 3>the right decision, and she said it in her own interviews,

0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:44.320
<v Speaker 3>I would turn heel if only it makes sense, Like

0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:46.200
<v Speaker 3>it has to make sense for everything involved, and I

0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:47.840
<v Speaker 3>don't know if it makes sense. So maybe this is

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:50.360
<v Speaker 3>just a all right, we're gonna get the two biggest

0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:53.600
<v Speaker 3>women in the business together at WrestleMania in Las Vegas.

0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:55.639
<v Speaker 3>This is gonna be big. It's gonna be something big

0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:59.480
<v Speaker 3>after WrestleMania forty to keep the WrestleMania's getting bigger, bigger

0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:01.560
<v Speaker 3>and bigger. I just don't know what the storyline is

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:02.080
<v Speaker 3>for yet.

0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Well I said to you, Sal that you know when

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>you go back and you look at the carnage of

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:11.240
<v Speaker 1>the Jade Cargill situation, that how do you selling me

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:13.439
<v Speaker 1>that Naomi is the one that did that? Like you

0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 1>could sell me that Bianca is the one that did

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:17.439
<v Speaker 1>that to her, right, that she sprawled out on a

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:20.040
<v Speaker 1>car and the windshields cracked and all this stuff. Unless

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Naomi hit her with a car or a golf guard

0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:25.000
<v Speaker 1>or something, I don't know how this happened to her.

0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:28.359
<v Speaker 1>So that's how you turn her heel. But then again,

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:31.359
<v Speaker 1>it just seems a little money to me. But I

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:33.520
<v Speaker 1>don't see another way out of this. It seems like

0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Bianca and it's a foregone conclusion. Sal what are your thoughts.

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Who's your pick for women's elimination chamber because this seems

0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:41.840
<v Speaker 1>like another default one kind of like where we were

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 1>at with Royal Rumbo and Charlie Flair.

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, your theory, Joe is the answer to your question, trill,

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:49.120
<v Speaker 2>how do you get Bianca Blair to become a heal?

0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 2>And Joe laid out the entire storyline for you. And

0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:54.600
<v Speaker 2>if that's the case, we have healed Bianca and face

0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:57.960
<v Speaker 2>rear Ripley. There really is no other choice, at least

0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:02.639
<v Speaker 2>from the current field that's believable anyways, than Yanka Blair.

0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 2>And there's the reason why she's like the heavy heavy

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 2>four twenty five fair right now, start out as one

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:10.560
<v Speaker 2>point fifteen, a couple of days just you know, jump

0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:14.240
<v Speaker 2>to four twenty five. You can't really make a legitimate

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 2>case for anybody else. Like, it's not going to be Naomi,

0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Like you mentioned, Charle Roxane and Baylor are gonna probably

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:23.360
<v Speaker 2>have their own thing. Alexa Bliss, it's too soon. Live

0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Morgan's have a shot at rest.

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:29.120
<v Speaker 1>We've seen Riha and her a million times already. It's

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:30.200
<v Speaker 1>a off and I like, I'm not.

0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:32.679
<v Speaker 3>Sold on the not Naomi thing. I'm not sold on

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:35.440
<v Speaker 3>the not Naomi thing. I understand that in the thought

0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:41.120
<v Speaker 3>process of it, but I could see an angle of Okay,

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:45.919
<v Speaker 3>like we've We've seen the Bianca bell Air accidental whitlash

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:48.520
<v Speaker 3>to Naomi in a match, We've seen them not be

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 3>on the same page. We've seen them constantly talk about

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:54.359
<v Speaker 3>it in every single promo. As long as one of

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:57.360
<v Speaker 3>us gets the win as all that matters, and they

0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:01.840
<v Speaker 3>constantly say one of us. But everybody knows you you

0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:04.919
<v Speaker 3>really mean me, So if you're telling me like, I

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:09.439
<v Speaker 3>just don't see like a program that kind of like

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 3>if you make Beyonca turn heel because of what she

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:13.960
<v Speaker 3>did to Jade, why is it not Bianca and Jade

0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 3>at Mania? How did it become Bianca and Rhea? So

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 3>if it is a Beanca heel turn, what if that

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 3>heel turn ultimately ends up costing her the match? And

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:26.199
<v Speaker 3>we do get Beyonca Jade at Mania and it's a

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 3>Naomi and Naomi finally gets to push that people really

0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:30.439
<v Speaker 3>want to see her kind of get and we know

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:32.119
<v Speaker 3>that she could take to that level. So, like I

0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:33.959
<v Speaker 3>could talk my I think Naomi is the only other

0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 3>person in this field that I could talk myself into.

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:38.439
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't really talk myself into anybody else. But it

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 3>does feel like that Bianca's gonna be the play. But

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 3>it's still doesn't make all the much sense to me,

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:47.440
<v Speaker 3>but they also book women horribly and the main roster

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 3>is really bad.

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 2>There's an outside chance that I've been trying to talk

0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 2>myself into that Rocks and Perez could come away as

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:57.879
<v Speaker 2>a long shot victor. I think they've been putting like

0:26:58.000 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 2>hints out on the main roster anyways, Like on an X,

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:02.920
<v Speaker 2>she's still a heel, still considered like one of the

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:06.439
<v Speaker 2>top heels in the woman's side of that division, but

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 2>on the main roster she's been like a red hot

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 2>baby face in the past. She has the accolade. She

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:16.439
<v Speaker 2>was the first ever ROH Woman's champion, she was a

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:19.120
<v Speaker 2>two time NXT champion. And if you kind of want

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 2>to just like throw something random and try to build

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 2>a new star on quote unquote the grandest stage of

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 2>them all, throwing in a red hot Roxanne Perez versus

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Area Ripley, I think at that point then maybe we

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:35.119
<v Speaker 2>find a way to turn Rhea as a heel and

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 2>keep Roxanne is the baby face. But there's a reason

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 2>why it's plus sixteen hundred odds for Roxane Perez, and

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:43.919
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be kind of difficult to buy into

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 2>that storyline, but that would be the only other BET

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:50.119
<v Speaker 2>I would consider making, mainly because of the odds and

0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 2>this now wacky story I'm trying to tell myself.

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I think, when all said and done, would also be

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>fun potentially, as if you have a situation and develop

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 1>where maybe if Naomi does win, then Beiyanca takes her

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 1>out too and it becomes this weird jealous thing and

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>then it just continues to wreak havoc and then you

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 1>start to see this darker version of Bianca develop. That

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 1>would be more interesting. And we are sitting on the

0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:20.720
<v Speaker 1>precipice of this weird booking where Eo and Rhea have

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:24.639
<v Speaker 1>a match next Monday after Elimination Chamber, and I don't

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:27.679
<v Speaker 1>know why. It feels like a weird timing of that

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. It has to be, so I'm hoping

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 1>that there's more to this, But I agree Naomi winning

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 1>fun interesting long shot. Does she get to mania that

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think necessarily, I don't think that happens, but

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 1>I will say that it feels like the favorite. It

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 1>feels like possibly that's the way things are going, where

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>it's just another default Bianca bell Air and they're just

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna figure it out. Now. The other matches on here,

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Ohen Sammy's ain Ko minus two hundred Sammy's ain

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 1>plus one fifty Sal. This is a rivalry that goes

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 1>back for between these two guys. I think Ko is

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the right side of this one. The only thing that

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 1>could have this potentially being undone with a Sami victory

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 1>is potentially Randy Orton returning and costing Kevin that match.

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>So if that's the case, Sammy would be the right call.

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 1>What side are you on, Samy or Ko?

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 2>I think it's time that cal just gets a victory

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 2>or some.

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Sort Yeah, agreed, I feel like that too. You think

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the same thing. It's just time for Kevin Owans to

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 1>get a w Yeah.

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 3>Kevin Owens is right, by the way everything he said.

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I have no idea why did Sammy even

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 3>come out there if you weren't gonna do anything, and

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 3>you were just gonna sit there and just watch as

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 3>he gets an Alabama slam into a ladder and it's

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 3>just left as a carcass. You were just gonna watch

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 3>and not do anything that you could have stayed in

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 3>the back, honestly, So, if I was Kevin I would

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 3>have did the same thing, and I think that here

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 3>it's more of the storyline that they always do with

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 3>Sammy Zayin. I'm really not a big Sami Say fan,

0:29:57.560 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 3>but they do the same storyline with Samy Zaye where

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 3>he goes and he loses the match, and he keeps

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 3>losing and all that. Then he gets to the biggest

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 3>pay per view or the WrestleMania or whatever and he

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 3>pulls everything out of his behind and he gets the win,

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 3>and it's like Sammy Hogan in the ring. I think

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 3>that that's ultimately where this goes. He loses the first

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 3>unsanctioned match, he doesn't take that lost kindly. We get

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 3>the rematch in some capacity at Mania, and that's the

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:24.960
<v Speaker 3>one that they put Sammy over at Mania yet again.

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 3>So now I'm with you. I think it's Ko, although

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't bet Ko. I would probably bet Sammy just

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 3>because the plus money and the Randy Orton factor is

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 3>still there, and I think Randy does make an appearance

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 3>before WrestleMania, so this would seem like the best chance

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 3>for him to do it. But yeah, I think it's Ko.

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Oh, the better bet is Sammy z ay But

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I think Ko is the favorite for a reason. Last

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 1>match year, it's a small car because elimination chambers are long.

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Tiffany Stratten and trist Stratus minus two thousand against Naya Jackson,

0:30:55.760 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Candice Loray, Now hear me out. I want this other side.

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I want the Naya jacks side of this. And I'm

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you why. The Tiffany Stratton Charlotte fair thing.

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's gotten off to a hot start.

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I think they need to heat it up. How better

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 1>can you heat something up than have Charlotte get involved

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>here or something with Tiffy and then having the legendary

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Canadian icon and hero end up eating a pin. Not

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna be Tiffany eating the pin here, It's going to

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>be I think trist Stratus eating the pin. Everyone thinks

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Candice lays there to eat the pin in this match,

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, that's kind of the easy way out of this,

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't do anything. It's not moving anything forward.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's time to start inflating that ball a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. So to me, you gotta get Charlotte and

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Tiffany involved in something here and start to put some

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 1>heat in this matchup. Because right now it's a little mild.

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it can get there. I think it's gonna

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 1>get there in the ring. I think Charlotte ultimately wins

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 1>this first one, and they're gonna have a series of

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>matches from now through the summertime. But I think it's

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 1>imperative we start doing something now and start putting some

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:01.560
<v Speaker 1>steaks in here. And I gotta tell you, I think

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<v Speaker 1>tris Stratus is here to eat the pin in this match.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't giving this a match much thought until you

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 2>and I talked before and how you laid out this

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 2>theory for me, And the more I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>it during the course of this podcast, the more I've

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<v Speaker 2>talked myself into it becoming a reality. Like you can

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<v Speaker 2>easily envision a world where Charlotte Fairer comes down to

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<v Speaker 2>the ring, her and Tiffy get into some sort of

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 2>fight on the outside of the ring. Tiffy goes to

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 2>follow Charlotte player to the backstage where they were leaving

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 2>tris Stratus one on two versus Nijacks and cancellar Ray

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<v Speaker 2>and her taking the pin because you wouldn't expect one

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 2>for trist Stratus and Tiffy Stratting to lose too. You

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't expect Tris Stratus to be the one taking the pin,

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 2>especially in her home turf of Canada and Toronto. On

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<v Speaker 2>top of that, and then you throw on the plus

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 2>seven hundred ID was like, it seems like this match

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<v Speaker 2>is just set up for misdirection. Whichever way you look

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<v Speaker 2>at it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's screaming misdirection, Torell. I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>the best way to make money on the elimination Chamber.

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<v Speaker 3>You with me, baby, You guys gave Tiffy a little

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 3>bit too much. CARDI would not be surprised with the

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 3>booking of the women's division and the main roster that

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 3>Tiffany Stratton takes the pin here. I would not, and

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 3>it would also give us more fuel for after WrestleMania

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 3>and maybe a lead up to Summer Slam of us

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 3>getting the actual one on one match again uninterrupted by

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 3>Candice Larray this time, because we got the one on

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<v Speaker 3>one match. I was there in DC. I saw it.

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 3>I saw the Candas Ray interruption, and as soon as

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 3>it happened, I said, Okay, this Naya and Tiffany's storyline

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 3>is not over because we have not had a definitive

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 3>victor in a one on one match up between them.

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 3>You had the cash in and you had Candice Larray

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 3>getting involved. So if you tell me that something goes

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 3>on in this match and Naya gets the pin over

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 3>Tiffy and now after she has a program after Mania

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 3>to continue feuding with Naya, when Charlotte goes back off

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 3>into the ether spear of whatever she's doing, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>can one hundred percent see that happening. So I think

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 3>you gave Tiffy a little bit too much credit. I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be surprised if she eats the pin and that

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<v Speaker 3>saves us some future with her and Naya reinvigorating us

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<v Speaker 3>feud in us finally getting a definitive winner.

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<v Speaker 1>That works for me. Either way, we're winning money on

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 1>that one plus seven hundred. That's the way to go.

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