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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Jane Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I feel like we should all just take

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Speaker 2: a deep breath. First of all, you looked beautiful last night.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: I saw the photos.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Not now I look like I

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Speaker 3: just woke up noised a late night. But it was

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Speaker 3: seriously so fun.

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Speaker 4: Now you actually have radiance.

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Speaker 5: Get thank you.

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Speaker 3: It's a boy because when I had a girl, broke

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Speaker 3: out like crazy. Yeah, broke out like crazy. Always looked

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Speaker 3: like a flushed My hair was always falling out.

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Speaker 5: So I'm like, it's a boy.

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Speaker 4: So that was opposite for me.

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Speaker 3: Oh really.

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Speaker 6: Oh I felt when I was pregnant with Jolie Ie

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Speaker 6: so tiny when I was pregnant with both girls. But man,

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Speaker 6: legend just root my son. I was like, who I

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Speaker 6: mean he was? I just felt big all over.

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Speaker 3: And because they always say like the girl steals the

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Speaker 3: mom's beauty, oh, I.

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Speaker 6: Felt like I was doing the Lord's work. That is

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Speaker 6: when I knew what it was all about. I was like,

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Speaker 6: this is really something.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know where to where to

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Speaker 2: start with this. I think for me where you know,

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Speaker 2: obviously a lot of people, a lot of castmates, have

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Speaker 2: been doing interviews.

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Speaker 4: I've seen a few of yours.

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Speaker 2: We had Macy on a couple like, i'd say, a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, and it was and I honestly

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Speaker 2: did not watch the show before I watched it. When Hannah,

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Speaker 2: our producer, she's like, hey, I think we're going to

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Speaker 2: be able to get a Mormon wife on, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: what is this, you know, like, what's what's happening? And

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Speaker 2: so we all started watching because obviously I wanted to

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Speaker 2: kind of see it all before we had Macy come on.

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Speaker 2: And watching the show, I'll say, in the very beginning,

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Speaker 2: I was first connected to you because of what you

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Speaker 2: shared about your husband. But then the edit, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: call it, I'm gonna call it the edit cool because

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Speaker 2: I'm going.

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Speaker 4: To start going certain chapters in my life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, made me flip a little bit. And what I

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Speaker 2: was saying to Macie was I really want Whitney on

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Speaker 2: the show because I love an opportunity for someone to

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Speaker 2: be able to go this is actually who I am

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Speaker 2: without certain things coming in out because there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of times in my life too where I've like I

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Speaker 2: have put the wrong foot forward and wrong situations. Things

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Speaker 2: have been said about me where I'm like, I actually

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Speaker 2: would love the opportunity to be able to kind of

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Speaker 2: clear that up. Yeah, and it's not I don't say

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Speaker 2: it's so much defending myself, but it's more of a

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Speaker 2: just get to know me on this level because I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I want to get to know Whitney, like on Whitney's

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Speaker 2: terms in front of us, you know, So thank you

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Speaker 2: for coming on.

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Speaker 4: I know it's.

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Speaker 2: Probably been kind of a I don't want to say

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Speaker 2: a show for you, but it's been a lot, right.

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Speaker 3: It's been a lot. Yeah, it's been very overwhelming. I

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Speaker 3: tried to not look at it, but curiosity can get

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Speaker 3: the best of me. Honestly. It's not always what random

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Speaker 3: people that I don't know. It's more of my castmates.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I'm so confused. I don't know what's

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Speaker 3: going on.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 6: So I actually did a reality TV show, okay a

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Speaker 6: long long time ago. So I don't love reality TV

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Speaker 6: shows because I don't I watch too closely, like the

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Speaker 6: eye rolls and the way they edit things.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, was that even in that same.

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Speaker 3: Situation, Like, was that reaction actually because of what that

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so I get I get a little lovey and

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Speaker 6: then defensive of you because I'm like, I loved you

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Speaker 6: automatically because I felt like you were a straight shooter.

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Speaker 6: I enjoyed that you didn't go to Taylor's baby shower,

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Speaker 6: Yeah a lot, because You're like.

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Speaker 4: We're not friends, and I was like, my girl, yeah,

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Speaker 4: like why are you?

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Speaker 6: I'll keep the cozy Sunday afternoon at home actually, and

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Speaker 6: I'll skip this one. So do you feel like how

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Speaker 3: I really think if there was more context behind certain

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Speaker 3: decisions that I had made, it would have made more

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Speaker 3: to why i'd made certain decisions.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to give an example for one of

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Speaker 2: those that were yeah, I might have Yeah.

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Speaker 3: A good example is the Fruity pebbles incident. I had

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Speaker 3: called to me ahead of time, asking her if it

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Speaker 3: if I could come bring this gift because we thought

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Speaker 3: it was funny, and then I brought it, and then

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Speaker 3: the way that she reacted, I immediately The reason I'm reacting

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Speaker 3: that way is because I'm like, whoa, Like I just

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Speaker 3: called you an hour before I thought you were totally

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Speaker 3: fine with this, and then that was so that's context.

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Speaker 3: I would have loved you know, But.

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Speaker 2: Because you're watching, I'm like, Okay, the reason she's upset

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Speaker 2: right now is because it didn't go over funny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's not it at all. Yeah. If I

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Speaker 3: reacted that way, of course, I think any human being

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Speaker 3: would have been like, oh my gosh, like I'm so sorry,

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Speaker 3: Like I would have never given you this if this

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Speaker 3: would have like hurt your feelings this much. But I

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Speaker 3: I was just like what well.

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Speaker 4: And I also and You're like, I'm acting like you're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no your defense.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, But like I also was like, okay, but you guys,

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Speaker 6: even if it's that intimate, then why does everyone even

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Speaker 6: know about it? There was a call made on a

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Speaker 6: speakerphone and everyone was there to witness this conversation between

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Speaker 6: the two the married couple, and I'm like, it's not

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Speaker 6: that intimate then, and it's not that private.

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Speaker 3: Right, I think more so she wanted to keep it

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Speaker 3: private from the show, sure, and and all of us

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Speaker 3: were respecting that.

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Speaker 5: And so.

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Speaker 3: That's why I wanted to call and make sure it

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Speaker 1: So had you already made that call before y'all started

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Speaker 5: None of us were talking about it on camera.

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Speaker 1: Well the scene before you gave it to her, and

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Speaker 1: y'all are all talking about what happened, but like not

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Speaker 1: really talking about what happened, like, So it already had

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Speaker 1: been brought up, yes, but you had already talked to

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Speaker 1: her about it, yes, okay, So she had already said.

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Speaker 3: It was okay to bring Yeah, okay, gotcha.

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Speaker 1: Because that changes a lot of it.

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Speaker 3: It does, And that's why I reacted that way. Of Course,

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Speaker 3: I would never ever react ifi to give somebody a

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Speaker 3: gift and they would have been that upset. Of course,

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Speaker 3: I would have felt horrible inside. But that's why I

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Speaker 1: So you obviously talked about this on another podcast. I

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Speaker 1: had just had just seen this. I'm like, man, this

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Speaker 1: is just changes a lot of people's thoughts. I know mine,

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Speaker 1: and I was very defensive of you as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's interesting. Did you see her response to your

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Speaker 1: talking about it? I think she put up a TikTok

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Speaker 5: No, I didn't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was interesting. I don't know if you had

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Speaker 1: seen that. And it didn't address it directly, but it

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Speaker 1: seemed to be in response to it. Okay, So I'm

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Speaker 1: just so interested and you probably don't know the answer

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Speaker 1: to this, but why did she react that way?

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Speaker 6: Then?

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Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know, just okay.

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Speaker 1: So it was kind of like one of those I'd

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Speaker 1: like one of those where it's like I'm just going

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Speaker 1: to say nothing, you know, it's like a voice over,

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Speaker 1: say Like it was a response to what she had

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Speaker 3: And that's okay, Like it was it's like not my

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Speaker 3: goal to be like, oh, like let's hate on other

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Speaker 3: women have made decisions on the show. It was more

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Speaker 3: so like I really just wanted people to know context

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Speaker 3: some like I don't know, crazy woman that was just

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Speaker 3: a gift like that, wasn't it at all?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, when we had talked about it, you know,

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Speaker 1: me and her had talked about it on the podcast

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Speaker 1: when Macy was on, and I was like, I said that.

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Speaker 1: I was like, we're missing something. Yeah, this this does

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Speaker 3: And Macy didn't say anything.

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Speaker 1: I think I think we were talking about it though

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Speaker 2: I think what I asked her though, was something to

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Speaker 2: the extent of did you think it was funny? And

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Speaker 2: she said no, right something. I believe that was how

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Speaker 2: that conversation. But it wasn't like, oh she called. She

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Speaker 3: Before or something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah we did. We did not know that.

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Speaker 4: Macy did say it was taken out of context though, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so maybe that was.

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Speaker 3: I think it was.

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Speaker 1: As a viewer, I think it to me, at least,

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Speaker 1: it was obvious we were missing something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like you don't just.

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Speaker 1: Get Yeah, I'm like, it's just we're missing something. So

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Speaker 1: that does explain things good to an extent. I mean

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Speaker 1: it make it brings up a lot more questions, like

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Speaker 2: It's like trying to put together the puzzle pieces of

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Speaker 2: all that. So it's like if she knew, then why

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Speaker 2: is and why is she upset?

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Speaker 4: Correct?

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Speaker 2: And then what was so funny is your Because we're

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Speaker 2: all voice membling earlier today, what are the questions we're

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Speaker 2: gonna ask?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 2: And you had you made up, you came up with

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Speaker 2: the best point of all of this about the women,

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Speaker 2: but really the men.

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Speaker 4: I'm really struggling with the men on this show.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's hear it.

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Speaker 6: I Like, we have all this focus and it's all

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Speaker 6: this banter about like the women did this, and she

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Speaker 6: said that, and fruity pebbles this, you know, And I'm like,

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Speaker 6: these dudes are out running amok. They are a disaster,

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Speaker 6: But we're focused right back in on these stunning women.

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Speaker 6: They've outkicked their coverage, every single one of them, including

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Speaker 6: your sweet husband.

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Speaker 4: But I'm like, this is wild to me.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I I've identified with probably every single one

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Speaker 5: There was always my therapist.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll forever be so grateful for him, still my

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Speaker 2: No, so like with my ex husband's phone, which is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So my husband he got rid of all social media.

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Speaker 4: It's like one of these days coming back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like one of those like it's all the show.

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Speaker 3: We'll have the show you after this, because it's literally

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Speaker 3: care about, if you can come out the other end,

444
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:17,679
Speaker 3: or if it's something you want to come out, it

445
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,200
Speaker 3: takes mutually. Both people have to work at it. There's

446
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 3: so many things he had to do and so many

447
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,240
Speaker 3: things that I had to change to continue to be

448
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,879
Speaker 3: with him. It has to be mutual. But when you

449
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 3: come out the other end, whow is your marriage stronger

450
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 3: than ever?

451
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 2: If you ever found out that he actually was intimate

452
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 2: with someone, would you stay or would you work through it?

453
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 3: Oh? No, I would absolutely leave a thousand percent. Yeah,

454
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 3: there's no way.

455
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,879
Speaker 2: And we talked about it too, because it almost seemed

456
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 2: like that's I wanted to hear more about your storyline. Yeah,

457
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 2: because I love to be like, how do people? Because

458
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 2: I mean, like hell, I've fought like hell for six

459
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 2: years with my husband, be like, all right, let's fight

460
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 2: through this.

461
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 4: We can do it. Yeah, And I like give so much.

462
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 2: I'm always like fight first, because then you know yeah,

463
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 2: you know, and like we we're like, where's the story?

464
00:20:59,119 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 4: Lolongo, that's the one.

465
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 1: We talked about that a lot. We wanted to know more,

466
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 1: and it's like me.

467
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,919
Speaker 3: Is that And that's also what put me in a

468
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 3: really bad place where we were filming, because it felt

469
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 3: like every single time Connor and I were together, that's

470
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 3: all they wanted us to talk about, and it was

471
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,880
Speaker 3: going back to that place what felt like every single day.

472
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 3: It was emotionally draining where I'm like, I don't I

473
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,719
Speaker 3: don't want to be in this place anymore. And then

474
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,679
Speaker 3: when I watched it, I was like, Okay, we used

475
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 3: like one scene of that, which is totally fine. I

476
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 3: know we're creating a story, but the emotional turmoil that

477
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 3: we both went through it was overwhelmingly exhausting.

478
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I can only imagine. And that's where it's like,

479
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: where is the rest of this story?

480
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

481
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 1: I feel like they like kind of threw it in there.

482
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 1: And then it was kind of just like.

483
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, one of my favorite and it's

484
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 3: not in the show, but one of my favorite moments

485
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 3: from filming When people always ask me, it's like I

486
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 3: never say this moment because it's not even in the show,

487
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 3: so it wouldn't make sense to them. But when we

488
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 3: were filming the pilot, we were sitting down and it

489
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 3: was like our interviews. It was Connor and I and

490
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 3: the showrunner was asking us, oh, like why did you

491
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 3: guys move to Hawaii, And there was no like preconceived

492
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 3: like oh, we're going to like really share like our

493
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 3: whole story. And I just like remember Connor looking at

494
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 3: me and he's like so emotional and he says everything.

495
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 3: He says everything, and I was like wow, like it

496
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 3: was to me such a raw and vulnerable moment I

497
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 3: would have and I felt like a lot of specifically

498
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 3: men could have related to that. I would have loved

499
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 3: for that to have been in the show.

500
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 4: A strong sense of ownership.

501
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and especially like just hearing how he talked

502
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 3: about it, it was so incredibly vulnerable that I'm like, wow, like,

503
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 3: I know how hard it is for men to open

504
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 3: up like this and talk about this, Like, I know

505
00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 3: so many men could have related to that.

506
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 5: That was by far one of my favorite.

507
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 3: I mean, it was very emotional, but I was just

508
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 3: like left that being like wow, like that, I know

509
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 3: that took a lot for you to share and that's

510
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 3: really brave of you, and I'm I'm sure so many

511
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 3: men could related that, but again, it wasn't in the show.

512
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 6: How far after that Discovery was filming, It was about a.

513
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 3: Year okay, yeah, because we filmed the pilot and then

514
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 3: two years later then we started filming the actual show.

515
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 3: So that's why everyone's like talking about, like, you guys

516
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: look so different. I'm like, well, yeah, like the pilot

517
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 3: in the first season are mixed or sorry, the pilot

518
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 3: in the season in the first episode are mixed together.

519
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 5: So yeah, of course we look drastically different.

520
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 4: Connor is ever different to me? Like, I'm like, is

521
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 4: he what's he doing? Frosted tips? Like, Connor, I'm gonna

522
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 4: need you to pick with a stick with a look.

523
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 4: I'm confused. I'm like, oh, she got a new boyfriend. No, no, no.

524
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 4: Even my husband was like, wait, who's is that?

525
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 2: Because he's sorry he got hooked at it with me

526
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 2: and I was like, I don't know what's happening.

527
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 4: I don't know.

528
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 3: So when we were living in Hawaii, he got we

529
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 3: bleached his hair, so fun.

530
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 5: We came home, so fun.

531
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, we came home. There's a scene of us trying alcohol,

532
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 3: or at least meet trying alcohol for the first time.

533
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 3: So his hair is blonde, and then there's a scene

534
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 3: of his hair shaved.

535
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:24,959
Speaker 4: Two minutes later, literally too.

536
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 6: But you can see why I've been on a roller

537
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 6: coaster with this man's identification there.

538
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, wait, what, But it's because we had scheduled

539
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 3: a hair transplant, so he had to shave his head

540
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,959
Speaker 3: and then a couple of days. And I'm sure that's

541
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: why they didn't keep that scene of Connor and I,

542
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 3: because he had just gotten a hair transplant, so you

543
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 3: could like kind of see his uh you know, have

544
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 3: you ever seen someone like that? Yeah, and that's why

545
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, maybe that's why I didn't keep that scene.

546
00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 3: I don't know, but so, yeah, bleached, then shaved, and

547
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 3: then hair transplant, and then you go into the actual

548
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 3: season where it's the same after that.

549
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's so funny the way we watch reality

550
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 1: shows differently. I don't know that I noticed any of that.

551
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 4: Where's the cup?

552
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 6: Like I keep looking for like the poles and why

553
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 6: they and who they're trying to cast you to be

554
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 6: and frame you to be. Okay, so I needed to

555
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 6: know the proximity to Discovery to filming because there's closet.

556
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,479
Speaker 6: Whitney is who I want to go to next when

557
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 6: Whitney's in the closet, because you said, I don't care

558
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 6: if they don't like me, and I don't care if

559
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 6: they're not my friend, and I felt that was the

560
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 6: first time I felt like I saw lying Whitney because

561
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 6: I'm like, that's not her heart. I think she does care.

562
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 6: I think she's protecting herself. So much of you relates

563
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 6: to me, I'll get emotional. But I was like, that's

564
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 6: actually not true. I don't think that's true. Yeah, no,

565
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 6: it's it's I watched you wall up a little bit

566
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 6: and then break down, but still didn't feel like you

567
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 6: had a safe place at least. This is how it

568
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 6: was to Meah, this is why I can't watch reality.

569
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 6: To me, I want to have a little Whitney in

570
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 6: the gloset, but like it to me just felt like

571
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 6: you just were protecting yourself, your family, and I didn't

572
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 6: think that was true. And that's why I wondered, like,

573
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 6: was that still that freshness of like protective discovery? No

574
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 6: one is safe, I don't trust anyone kind of feeling.

575
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 5: Yes and no, take us back to the closet.

576
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go back in there. Yes and no. Yeah.

577
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 3: I had built up a lot of resentment, and I

578
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 3: also felt like two of the most traumatic things that

579
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 3: have ever happened in my life. I'm like sharing, I'm

580
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 3: back to back one Liam being in the hospital and

581
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 3: then my marriage and I'm talking about it. And not

582
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: only that, I didn't even bring Liam being in the

583
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: hospital onto the show. And I had built up so

584
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 3: much anger and resentment towards not only to me, but

585
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: towards like these whole group of women, because I was

586
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 3: just like.

587
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 5: A lot of those women.

588
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: Half of them knew who I was when that was

589
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 3: happening with Lamb being in the hospital and me getting

590
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 3: like all of this hate for this video. Yeah yeah,

591
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 3: and so they knew how personal and traumatizing that was

592
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 3: in my life that I just like couldn't believe that,

593
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 3: Like I don't know, like it just felt like I

594
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 3: was like so disassociated with what was reality and what

595
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 3: wasn't while I was filming those moments, because I'm just

596
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 3: like damn, like okay, like I get that this is entertainment,

597
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 3: but like this is also my real life, and like

598
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 3: this was just shared on national television. And after that moment,

599
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: I like went in a horrible place. And then moments

600
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: from then on whenever there were scenes where we'd be

601
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 3: in groups together and I just felt like attacked every

602
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 3: single time, and I'm just like, I don't I don't

603
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 3: want to do this anymore, Like this is exhausting, Like

604
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 3: and I just wasn't in a place. But it's like

605
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 3: it's not like I can be like, hey, can I

606
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 3: have like two weeks off. It's like you don't get

607
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 3: that luxury. It's like, well, no, like we're filming in

608
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 3: real time. I mean, yeah, I'm grateful that I wasn't

609
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: I was able to not go to the veigest thing

610
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 3: a Macy's event, but I just sucked. I just wasn't

611
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 3: in a good place. So yeah, of course I don't

612
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 3: mean those things like I do care about them. I

613
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 3: do value our friendship.

614
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 2: But did you text Macy to tell her that you

615
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: were gonna put those receipts of the her texting you out?

616
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 5: No? No, I didn't.

617
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I was curious at that how that was

618
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 2: because I remember because again as a viewer watching that,

619
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: I was like, if I didn't like to me, I'm like,

620
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: I understand stepping away, yeah, but also I'm like, why

621
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: didn't you show up for your friend? Yeah, so that

622
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: piece of it not even you. I'm like, why couldn't

623
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: she even text? That's why I said, why couldn't she

624
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: even text? If anything she wants to protect because we're

625
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: always like boundaries heaving, I was like, well, no, I

626
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: like the fact she said a boundary. I'm like, yeah,

627
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: but text if I didn't text you, Like, how hurt

628
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: would you be if you didn't text? So again, what

629
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: we saw was that you didn't text, you didn't even

630
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: reach out, and then you release the things.

631
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 4: I'm like, well that changes it a little bit again, right.

632
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 3: But then that just spit me in the ass again.

633
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 3: I felt like because everyone just like, oh, sharing personal

634
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 3: text online, which I totally get that definitely wasn't the

635
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 3: way to go about it. But I just went in

636
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: so much defense mode because it's like in that scene

637
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 3: in the show, it's like such a surprise, like, oh

638
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: my god, Whitney's not showing up, and it's like, well,

639
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: I did send a text a few days prior to

640
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 3: this event that I just really wasn't in a place

641
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: and it just sucked.

642
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 4: No, your messages were sweet.

643
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: Again, I'm actually like, I don't think that was bad

644
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: of you to do that personally. No, I texted you like,

645
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: this is what it was. I would have probably done

646
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: the same thing, yeah, to defend yoursel because that wasn't cool. Yeah,

647
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,239
Speaker 2: she said she didn't, but then you really did. I

648
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: still what i'd heard is you were contractually obligated to

649
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: show up to Mikayla's party, but you didn't have to

650
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: go to Macy's.

651
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 4: Is that was that right?

652
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

653
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 3: So I mean obviously there's expectations when you're filming a

654
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 3: reality show free to show up to things. But again,

655
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: like that's my free choice, Like nobody's coming to my

656
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 3: house and you know, grabbing me, throwing me in the

657
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 3: car and taking me to it. But what you don't

658
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: see at that event too, At Mikayla's birthday party, I

659
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 3: knew the women were going to be upset, and I

660
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: think that's what I was the most anxious about. And

661
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 3: you know, I come in, you hear all these things

662
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 3: saying like I had to separate myself because it was

663
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 3: so incredibly emotional. I was just like, I'm just like,

664
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 3: what the fuck am I doing? Like what is life

665
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 3: right now before i'd come out and seen Macy. But

666
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: in that scene, it looks like I'm just like, huh,

667
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 3: like so happy to be there, but I'm just like

668
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't want to be there, and I

669
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 3: wish I didn't go, but I did, and.

670
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 4: Here we are. I feel for you, because I do.

671
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 4: I just wouldn't have liked you.

672
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 6: And I'm not just saying that you're because I like

673
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 6: even said to them this morning, I was like, guys,

674
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 6: I think like we were all like kind of fans

675
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 6: and going like to Kat's point, like she was like,

676
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 6: but what about how would she have the time in

677
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 6: the place? Like that went into manager mode.

678
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 3: She knew about it.

679
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 6: Okay, guys, but like I have to say, like, you're

680
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 6: still a human being and you're a mom and you're

681
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 6: a wife and now you're pregnant, bless you.

682
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 5: And I was in my first trimester during filmy.

683
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: That's another thing I said. I was like, well, this

684
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: does not help.

685
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: Do you regret not showing up to Macy's hardy I

686
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: I hate when people are just like, oh, like she's

687
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,719
Speaker 2: not taking accountability, like woo boo, who she's playing the victim,

688
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: Like holy shit, like everybody calmed down, Okay, I like you.

689
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 4: They just didn't show anything.

690
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: They didn't shown and they didn't show any of the

691
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: apologies that I had made, and that upset me. And

692
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: what upsets me more is these women saying like, she

693
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 3: owes us an apology. I'm just like, I would love,

694
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 3: like we can call let's chat, and I would love

695
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 3: to know what you're wanting from me. I would love

696
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: to know that because I would love to give that

697
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 3: to you genuinely. And I as far as me see's

698
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 3: event goes, like, how can you regret that? Because the

699
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: only thing that could have changed me being in a

700
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: better place for me to have gone to that, and

701
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: I wasn't in a good place. I wasn't in a

702
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: good place to go and be around all these women

703
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 3: because every time I was around them, I felt like

704
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: I was being attacked. I didn't feel welcome, and I

705
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: don't we'll welcome now into this day.

706
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, that's going to be all these videos that

707
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 5: they're making and.

708
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: It's like it hurts, like I'm a human being, like

709
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, I'm so confused because there were

710
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: apologies that were made on the show, Like I thought

711
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: everything was fine, and then like, I just I don't

712
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 3: know what's real and what's not anymore.

713
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: I haven't I didn't followed along with any of the

714
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: videos made, so I have no idea, that's what.

715
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 5: I was going to say.

716
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I have been paying attention. But

717
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: all I can think about, and we've talked about this before,

718
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: is you know, on other reality shows they bring these

719
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: women together. They're kind of friends, but some of them

720
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: but not really your regular housewives. They don't know each other,

721
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: so you get in a fight with another woman. It's

722
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: kind of like, Okay, this is so different. This is

723
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: a group of friends. I mean, y'all were all friends.

724
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: Right, That's actually not true?

725
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: Not true?

726
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 4: No, okay, it's going to be starting with an org chart.

727
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 5: Because he was the o G.

728
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 4: Taylor was.

729
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 3: Was she the start of it or so Taylored had

730
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 3: it with a couple of her other friends and swingers.

731
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 6: Yeah a soft swing, yeah, a soft swing. And what

732
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 6: are those friends still in this? Or do we know

733
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 6: those friends?

734
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 3: They're not in the show. Okay, no, okay, but I

735
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: know they were offered to be in it, but they

736
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 3: didn't want to be. They might be in who knows

737
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 3: they might be in the next season, all right for it. Yeah,

738
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 3: so Taylor started with these friends and then yeah, me, Macy, sorry, Macy, McKayla,

739
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 3: and I started joining that group. And keep in mind,

740
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 3: like this mom Talk group, Like I loved it. It

741
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 3: was so fun because there would be events that we'd

742
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: throw and there'd be like twenty five women there and

743
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 3: it was just so fun, like all of us just

744
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 3: getting together. Like mom Talk wasn't just this group, although

745
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 3: it like seems that way, but it was so much

746
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 3: bigger than that. And I know a lot of women

747
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 3: that were in that and like had seen the show

748
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 3: are like, I'm sure they missed it a bit too,

749
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: because it was so fun, like a huge just felt

750
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 3: like a massive party every single time. We're just dancing together,

751
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 3: talking together and eating get fitted. It was just so fun.

752
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 3: But then later on Demi would come to some of

753
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 3: the events and it was and then Leila would come

754
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 3: to those events too, but Jesse was never she never

755
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 3: went to any of those events. After Taylor's after her arrest,

756
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 3: that's like kind of when.

757
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 4: Production domestic arrest one.

758
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like kind of when productions slowed down, because

759
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 3: it was actually just going to be s four, Taylor, Basicon, mckaele,

760
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 3: and I and it wasn't a big enough cast. We

761
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 3: needed more people. And so I know that they interviewed

762
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 3: a lot of those other women that were in that

763
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: mom Talk group and then eventually came to this. So

764
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: like the other four women, I wasn't as close to,

765
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 3: but Macey, Mikayla and I like three amigos, we were

766
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 3: buying hands down the closest.

767
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: And I think that's why I was, you know, because

768
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: I'm like Macey was constantly always sticking up for you,

769
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: and a lot of the areas I'm like, okay, you know,

770
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: but that piece almost.

771
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: Well and that's what I was where I was going to.

772
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: But you still went on a show with two three

773
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: really good friends of yours and now you know, y'all

774
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: didn't have discussions about things that y'all would talk about

775
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: or that could be talked about on camera. Like I'm

776
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 1: just thinking, like if we were to ever do a show,

777
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: we would have a conversation like Liam being in the hospital,

778
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: like is this okay to bring up?

779
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 4: Is this not?

780
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: Like I just feel like that would be as a

781
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: boundary that you don't cross.

782
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 4: We do do that we do that wind down.

783
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, we get the road and we're like, okay, safe

784
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 6: or not safe? And like we can tell by the

785
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 6: way she reacts, like we won't dig anymore. I give

786
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 6: it two shots, and if she won't give it to me,

787
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 6: then I don't I stop digging.

788
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: Well, there's a point where you're already friends and you

789
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: have a respect for each other that I just feel

790
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: like has been crossed a lot on this show, and

791
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: I can see where that's very hard for you now.

792
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and having a relationship that the piece too that

793
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: you said which is going to be hard. You're like,

794
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: you don't even know what it is now? That is

795
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: like what do you want me to say sorry for?

796
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: Because you're wanting to say not sorry, but you want

797
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: your wanting to at least have a conversation, right.

798
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I would love to have it more in

799
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 3: person than online.

800
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: Because it seems like you're saying like there's just shots

801
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: being like in the which is that's not fun or

802
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: friendly or anything like that. But is there one thing

803
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: that you can go Okay, I can own this. I

804
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 2: will take one hundred percent accountability for this, oh.

805
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: One thousand percent, And I have to add two because

806
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 3: I know people are going to dive deep into every

807
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 3: single thing that I say there were. I did meet

808
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 3: Layla and another woman who's who's not in the show

809
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 3: prior to meeting Masy McKayla and like going to like

810
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 3: actual mom talk events, but I was never like as

811
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 3: close with her as I was with Macy. MyKayla, like

812
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 3: you kind of had a falling out, and then I

813
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 3: got really close with Macy.

814
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 5: Mikayla got it.

815
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: Let's let everyone know that before they dig up all

816
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: the videos. And me to yeah, no, absolutely, I hated

817
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: the fact that I had brought I had told Jen

818
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: what Demi had said about her about the whole two

819
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 3: more money thing.

820
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 4: And the white trash.

821
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 3: I wasn't even there when to me called Taylor white trash,

822
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 3: I wasn't even there, and on the show somebody else

823
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: is telling me. But I had brought it onto the show.

824
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 3: I had brought it on the show because I had

825
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 3: told Jen. But then they like had scenes of somebody

826
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 3: else telling me because I wasn't there. But again, I

827
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 3: willingly did that. And I was so angry about the

828
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 3: freaking fruity pebbles thing, But I still I wish I

829
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 3: didn't do that, and on the show, I do apologize

830
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 3: to to me because I hated that I had done

831
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 3: that because when we were in Park City, she fully

832
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 3: got attacked in the beginning, and I hated that I

833
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: had played a part in that because I was seeing

834
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: it happening.

835
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 5: I'm just like, oh, God, Like in my mind, I'm.

836
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 3: Just like, what you just do, Like this is horrible,

837
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 3: Like nobody deserves to be treated that way. And after

838
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: the fact, when Demi and I are sitting down and

839
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: I'm apologizing to her, she expresses to me that even

840
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: she even found out that her mom's cancer had come back,

841
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 3: and she'd found out that evening, and I was just like, God,

842
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 3: like I just I felt sick. I felt disgusted, and

843
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: obviously felt better, Like when we got to sit down

844
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 3: and apologize and everything, it's just like, God, you just

845
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 3: really never know what somebody's going through, Like you really don't.

846
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 3: And yeah, one thousand percent own up to that. I

847
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 3: nobody asked me to do that and to bring those

848
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: conversations onto the show.

849
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 2: She did do it at the truth Box, though I

850
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: do have a question about that. There was a TikTok

851
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: going around the cor I was like, oh, dark.

852
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 4: But I'm like, is that Like, I'm like, why she

853
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 4: wouldn't do that.

854
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: I feel like a producer might have been smart enough

855
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: to calculate that, like and then throw that collar in.

856
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't read into that. There could have been papers

857
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: where I just put a smiley face and put it

858
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: in the box.

859
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: So we didn't get to see that because this is reality,

860
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: non reality. What are your thoughts truthfully about Taylor? I mean,

861
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: where do you guys stand now?

862
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 3: And I think she's a very resilient woman and I've

863
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: told her that it's inspiring with how much she's gone through.

864
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: She just keeps going and I really do and I

865
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 3: really do respect that in the beginning, you know, when

866
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 3: you watch the show and I'm just like, you know,

867
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 3: I don't feel like we're friends. And it's because well, yeah,

868
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 3: like she couldn't be a friend. She wasn't a place

869
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: to be a friend, but I also needed a friend

870
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 3: in those moments. It just and it's fine, like we're

871
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: great now. We're better than we were before we filmed

872
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 3: the show or before we even started a mom talk

873
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 3: like it's great, And I just hate that it comes

874
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: across that I'm like judging her from all of these

875
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 3: things and whatnot. It's like, yeah, well she does. I

876
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 3: don't agree with like you did make those choices, but

877
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 3: you're coming out the other end like you go, girl,

878
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: keep it up, you know. But no, we're great. Like,

879
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 3: if anything, I'm the closest with Taylor Macy right now.

880
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 2: So do you So Taylor and Macy are your closest

881
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 2: as of now?

882
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just talked to me. I just talked to

883
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 3: Taylor yesterday.

884
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, all right, that's so it's just the other

885
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 2: part of mom talking.

886
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm sure we'll figure that out.

887
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 2: On season two, we all watched wat you guys, what

888
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: is the biggest misconception that you want to clear by yourself.

889
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 3: That I that I don't take accountability or that I'm

890
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 3: some like what was me like crying in a closet,

891
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: like victim mentality.

892
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 5: It's like, okay, well, sometimes you.

893
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 3: Can be a victim and that's okay, and you can't

894
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 3: take accountability. But also remember that you may have not

895
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: seen those moments where I did take accountability and didn

896
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: note up to and say god damn, like yeah, I'm

897
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 3: so sorry that I had done that, But you don't

898
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: get to see that so let's remember that too.

899
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 5: You know, does it.

900
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 6: Feel like your family? Because I one thing I really

901
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 6: enjoyed and liked watching was you bring the vibrator proposal

902
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 6: to like your family. I was like, wow, like that

903
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 6: seems like I don't know, just genuine and like like

904
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 6: I actually again, I was like, okay, girl, all right,

905
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 6: like we're just testing the waters, right instead of hiding.

906
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 4: Our grandmothers, mothers and kids. I was gonna first.

907
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 6: Just see if what they think about it.

908
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: How has this.

909
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 6: Impacted your family? Has your family been like this is

910
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 6: a huge mistake? Are they supportive? Are they?

911
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 3: I think it's so funny my mom or Connor's family

912
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: and my family. The only people that I've seen the

913
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 3: show and my whole family is my mom is because

914
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 3: she watched it with me, like we would talk about it.

915
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 5: My husband hasn't even seen it, and he doesn't want

916
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 5: to see it, and.

917
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 4: He wouldn't recognize himself.

918
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that it looks like I just got

919
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: my head on yesterday. Which yeah, because it's such a

920
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: culture shock.

921
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 6: I mean, I've always been fascinated with the Mormon religion.

922
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 4: I won't lie.

923
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 6: There's parts of it that I think are so sacred

924
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 6: and so cool to me. And then there's other parts

925
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 6: where I'm like, that's why I like this progressive Mormon

926
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 6: out like outlook as like, Okay, we're kind of have

927
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 6: like a bit of awakening, but that awakening plus reality

928
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 6: TV plus Hulu. Yeah, I mean that's like a lot

929
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 6: to take in. Yeah, for people like your mom that

930
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 6: have lived a certain way and for a certain amount

931
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 6: of years.

932
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: I think if we were talking more about actual church

933
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: doctrine that I think specifically people who were who are

934
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 3: or were Mormon may take more offense to it. But

935
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 3: to me, it's more so either we have been Mormon,

936
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: or we are Mormon, or we're very devout, like all

937
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 3: of us have some sort of Mormonism in our lives

938
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 3: and we're sharing that. And it has nothing to do

939
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 3: with like sitting down and talking about the Book of

940
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 3: Mormon and dissecting it.

941
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 4: Do you like, have you seen it?

942
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 3: You know, I haven't seen it, but I really want to. Really.

943
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: We had we had uh a sweet friend on here

944
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 2: who was Mormon, and she they take some quite offense

945
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 2: to it, but I'm.

946
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 3: Like, it's like.

947
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 4: Laughing, but it's you.

948
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: Know, there was there's one song about that I love turn.

949
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: I think they're like knocking doors and everything. Also, you

950
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 3: guys know why I did that?

951
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 4: You knocked on doors?

952
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 5: I did that in Georgia, Atlanta, Georgia bless.

953
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. I was telling Connor when we were

954
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 3: driving here. I was like, Oh, this like reminds me

955
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 3: of Georgia. This reminds me of my door knocking, really

956
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 3: walking up those hills and knocking on the doors, being

957
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 3: like please, like don't kill me, but let me in

958
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 3: your house and let's talk about Jesus.

959
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 4: How did they go?

960
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 2: Can I ask one question just because I'm just really

961
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: curious when you left the group text yes, did you

962
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: really want people to text you afterwards? Because that was

963
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: where I was like, Whitney, you know, talking text message.

964
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 4: Bothering me. I was like, then you're wanting people to text?

965
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 4: You left a group for a reason. Why are you

966
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 4: asking people them to text you?

967
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 3: Right? So I think I more so wanted like Mason

968
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 3: and may Kayla to reach out and be like how

969
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 3: are you doing?

970
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 4: But like they knew that you hated those were like

971
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 4: you weren't happy there?

972
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, but if.

973
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: You left a group, you would I think, deep down,

974
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: all of us would want one of our best friends

975
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: to text on the side and be like, hey, are

976
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 1: you okay? Is everything okay?

977
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 5: Why'd you leave?

978
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 3: Yeah?

979
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: Don't when she leaves our queendom group, Sarah just left.

980
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 4: It again while we were sitting here.

981
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: That you would have if you would have seen the

982
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: first but you weren't even on the first ones of

983
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: her leaving.

984
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 4: Of which one, oh, we had to side note.

985
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: We were side note starting out because you're over here,

986
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: we had a first if you're getting divorced, Sarah already

987
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: left five times and we already so I think, deep down,

988
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: but I was going to defend.

989
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: Leave a group message to then be like, what did

990
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,479
Speaker 2: you leave? Yeah, you know what I mean, So go ahead.

991
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 3: I get it. Definitely irrational, very dramatic.

992
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was great, well done.

993
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 3: I loved I just have to say I did love

994
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 3: the Edits. Every time they'd like bring up like Whitney's

995
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: left the group chat and they had like a song,

996
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 3: like a dramatic song, and I'm just like, oh, like,

997
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 3: I just would laugh about.

998
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 2: It and unfollowed too, Oh yeah, okay, it's funny that too,

999
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: because I was like, it's Whitney followed me.

1000
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna wait to follow until she comes here and

1001
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 4: unfollow what. I don't know how to easy? You go

1002
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 4: to their page and then you see if they're following your.

1003
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: Leave the group chat. I mean it's I don't know.

1004
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 4: I don't reach out though, or like ask for them.

1005
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 3: If you left a.

1006
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 4: Group chat, I would pulse check you thanks friend?

1007
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: We would okay, but like, how was did you know

1008
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: that was happening? Do you guys follow each other now?

1009
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 3: Or what I do? I don't think all of the

1010
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 3: women follow.

1011
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: Me back, but you see, that would drive me crazy.

1012
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 3: That's what.

1013
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 4: Who do you up against the most?

1014
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: Now?

1015
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 3: Would drive me crazy? I don't really know, Like I

1016
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 3: don't I mean a rebasing an awful line or in person,

1017
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 3: like I don't even know because I've never mine. Now,

1018
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 3: it seems like Jesse to me and Mikayla have the

1019
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 3: it seems like the most animosity and were close. Oh yeah,

1020
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: like best friends. Yeah, I'm sorry me too.

1021
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah that's that's.

1022
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 5: Tough, but I think that, Yeah, I would love to

1023
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 5: know why.

1024
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 4: You know, when's the last time you saw everybody in person?

1025
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 5: We were in La.

1026
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 3: We went to like a I don't know if you've

1027
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 3: seen those outfits of like us all in red.

1028
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were in LA. That's okay. We were in

1029
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 5: l A and we were like, it was really.

1030
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 4: Like Danna and I just said, like, this is cat.

1031
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 4: We'll enjoy our copye. Well, you guys catch up.

1032
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 3: It was the day before the show had come out.

1033
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 3: We were in LA and it wasn't like a premiere,

1034
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: like we didn't see the show. We were there, but

1035
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 3: it was like an influencer party.

1036
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 5: We were in LA.

1037
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 3: We're on a rooftop. It was so much fun. That's

1038
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 3: the last time I had seen all the women And was.

1039
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 4: That, Like Levey, how long ago was that?

1040
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 5: That was a day before the show come out? Came out?

1041
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 5: So how long has it been. It's been almost a month.

1042
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: I got to say that you're close with Taylor. I

1043
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: loved Taylor. She was actually one of my favorites.

1044
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 6: Actually really identify with both of you a lot and

1045
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 6: a lot of different The old second pregnancy really got

1046
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 6: good to me.

1047
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 3: I was, Okay, I.

1048
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: Think a lot of us can see us and a

1049
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: lot of y'all, Like we talked about that, like who

1050
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: are you know? I can we can see bits and

1051
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: pieces of ourselves in all of you. You know, and

1052
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: so I think that we can watch it and like

1053
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: and hate all of you all at sometimes, you know,

1054
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: so I can only imagine for you guys having to

1055
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: watch this as your friends and seeing it on and

1056
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: then the outrage online is just unreal.

1057
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 4: Did you want to be Regina George?

1058
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 5: I didn't.

1059
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 3: I did you see that post? It was like what

1060
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 3: I said.

1061
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 2: I was like, I think she wants to be the

1062
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: Regina George. She wants to be because because you said

1063
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 2: I didn't think mom tag won't survive without you? Like

1064
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 2: good luck? Do you think it could survive without you?

1065
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Obviously?

1066
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 4: Like if I didn't, do you think the producers would

1067
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 4: like made you say that?

1068
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: No?

1069
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 3: I was pissed when you're past Yeah, I was so angry.

1070
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 3: It's like good without me?

1071
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, good luck? Good luck? Without me?

1072
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it could be recasted like done. It would be

1073
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 3: just fine, and I know would still be so successul.

1074
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: I think there's something so human and honest and authentic

1075
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: about you saying yeah. I was pissed, Like do you

1076
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 2: know the amount of times I've said y'all?

1077
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 4: There's so many times?

1078
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: And then after I was like, yeah, sorry, I was

1079
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: either pmssing pregnant, pissed or I found out another affair

1080
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 2: or something like you know what I mean, Like, let

1081
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 2: me count the ways.

1082
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 3: Then I said things, if somebody were to follow you

1083
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 3: around with a camera and only show those moments, of

1084
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 3: course you're going to be the Virginia George of that.

1085
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 4: That's why I'm not allowed by anybody.

1086
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: Not allowed, she asked me, every time you would do

1087
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: this with me, right, I'm like totally.

1088
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 2: Well.

1089
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 6: The thing is too that people don't see is like

1090
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 6: you get miked in the morning sometimes and they're recording

1091
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 6: that audio, and then there's scenes where it's the back

1092
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 6: of your head and they can't see that you're talking

1093
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 6: or not talking, and they're using a comment that might

1094
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 6: have been about like lasagna over top of the situation.

1095
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 6: I'm like, it's so whack. That's why I was like,

1096
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 6: let me get eyes on this chick. I just want

1097
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 6: to know who she is, breathe her air, and know

1098
00:50:59,280 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 6: who she is.

1099
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 4: That TikTok though that you did. I did watch that one.

1100
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 4: We were like, oh who me, and like it's.

1101
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 6: So good which which you are in.

1102
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: The dress and dress it's like a oh no.

1103
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 4: Not yet, Like so I was like that's good.

1104
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 2: I like, I like this, But I mean, if they

1105
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 2: asked you back for season two because you kind of

1106
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: left on your you said you're done, would you go back?

1107
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 5: I don't know yet. I really don't know.

1108
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 4: I really blank toy.

1109
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: Boundaries, guys, boundaries, I like hate that word.

1110
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 3: Now it's like, God, like, why is that so associated

1111
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 3: with me?

1112
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 5: Now?

1113
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 4: I did she said to me too. I was like,

1114
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1115
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: I think she just I just think she's really got boundaries.

1116
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 5: Seriously, holy, Yeah, because it is it's your life.

1117
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the other side of you know, of all

1118
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: of it, but it's also you know, it's it's good,

1119
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 2: you know, good money for brands and yeah things as well.

1120
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I do love I think you said it earlier,

1121
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 3: like so many people can relate with.

1122
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 5: I really do think it's such a great cast. It's

1123
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 5: a great cast, so.

1124
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 3: Much diversity in personalities, so many strong personalities that I

1125
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 3: know so many people can relate to. It's just, yeah,

1126
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 3: a matter of if I yeah, I still want to

1127
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 3: be a part of that.

1128
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 4: I don't know if I want a world without Whitney.

1129
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 3: No.

1130
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 6: And I'm not saying that you're here, like there's just

1131
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 6: very prominent characters, and there there's a mental characters, and

1132
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 6: I don't like all of them, yeah, or like I

1133
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 6: don't want to. Oh, there we go. There's the old clickbait.

1134
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 6: But it's not that I don't like them, I just

1135
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 6: don't relate to like i'm some of them. I'm just like, Okay,

1136
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 6: we got a little copy paste, copy paste, copy paste.

1137
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 6: I just what resonated with me quickly with you is

1138
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 6: that you just stood out on your own. You knew

1139
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 6: who you were or and when you didn't, you just

1140
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 6: shared that you didn't like it. Just I don't know,

1141
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 6: I think it would be really really wildly different without you.

1142
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: Do you feel like it would be a chance to

1143
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: kind of redeem yourself a little bit?

1144
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if like redeem is like a good word,

1145
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 3: Like I don't even like just because based off of

1146
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 3: like what I lived like and even feel like I

1147
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 3: needed redemption, Like sure from a viewer, maybe you'd feel

1148
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 3: like I would need redemption. Would I love to have

1149
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 3: conversation and figure out what the hell is going on? Absolutely?

1150
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 3: Because yeah, like if there's something that like.

1151
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 4: You want to lay it all out, hash it all out.

1152
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, if I hurt you, like I would. I

1153
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 3: want to know, like, let's make amends and let's move

1154
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 3: on from this. Like, I know what it's like to

1155
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 3: hold a grudge on someone and it can control your life.

1156
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 3: Like I would love to sit down with you and

1157
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 3: figure this out so we both can just move on

1158
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 3: from this and you know, and if that ends up

1159
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 3: us not being friends, like that's okay, but like let's

1160
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 3: let this go that I would love, Yeah, and go back.

1161
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 5: I would go back for that.

1162
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1163
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: Well, and I think the viewers, I truly and I

1164
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: know that you have gotten a lot of hate, and

1165
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: I know a lot of most all the girls have

1166
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: gotten hate, but I do think as a viewer more

1167
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 1: so with you, Yeah, we are definitely missing so much

1168
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: of your story that I know as a viewer again

1169
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 1: and especially talking to you and hearing the things like

1170
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: you take accountability, yeah, you know, and this whole thing

1171
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: and she doesn't take accountability. Yeah, but I would like

1172
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: to see more of that.

1173
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 3: I'd also like to know like when the women say that,

1174
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 3: like I would love to sit down and be like,

1175
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 3: what do you want me to take accountability for? And

1176
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 3: then let's talk about it. I would love to have

1177
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 3: that conversation because I don't know what it is now,

1178
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 3: you know.

1179
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: Right, And then that's the thing. It's very different between

1180
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: what the woman the women may feel like and what

1181
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: the viewer feels like because again, they know the reality

1182
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: of what happened. Yeah, the viewers don't know a lot

1183
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 1: of that reality. They do not know that you called

1184
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: her before. I mean, now you have said that. But

1185
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: from just the show, there's a lot of things that

1186
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: were unanswered that make you that put you in that light.

1187
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 3: Yeah. Another thing is that first episode, the scene where

1188
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 3: I'm talking about a video that I'm upset about. It

1189
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 3: wasn't the swinger video at also completely different video. Oh jeez.

1190
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 3: I think if you were to watch it as a viewer,

1191
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 3: like I never once say like that swinger video, right,

1192
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 3: a scandal video. I just talk about a video or

1193
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 3: a TikTok, and that's not what it was. Because I

1194
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 3: think then right from the get the get go, it's like, oh,

1195
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 3: Whitney's like, you know, such a judgmental person towards Taylor,

1196
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 3: off of everything that she's done, off of this scandal

1197
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 3: video where I'm like, I thought it was I mean,

1198
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 3: maybe if I was involved, I would have thought differently.

1199
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 3: I thought it was hilarious. I was like, couldn't believe that,

1200
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 3: like that was actually happening. So I was doing press

1201
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 3: because I hadn't seen the show yet, and I'm like

1202
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 3: answering these questions to them and I'm saying like and

1203
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 3: they'd ask me about the scandal, I'd be like, oh, yeah,

1204
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 3: like so funny, like whatever eyes to my page like

1205
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: ha ha, because I wasn't involved in it, Like I

1206
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 3: could just tell they'd be so confused, and I'd be like, okay,

1207
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 3: like I don't want to do anywhere pressed only see

1208
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 3: this freaking show because I have no idea what's going on?

1209
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 2: Oh man, what what do you think about the whole

1210
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 2: gen and Zac drama? And also would you have gone

1211
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 2: to the Chippendale show? I'm just curious, Oh a thousand percent.

1212
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 3: I would have gone one thousand person.

1213
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 4: And she was like the Shippendales were coming with they

1214
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 4: coming out here.

1215
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: It wasn't Shippendale's. It was thunder from down Under.

1216
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 3: But as we leave this.

1217
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: Podcast, I was talking to Macie and I get an

1218
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: email It's like, do you want to come to And

1219
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: I was like.

1220
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 3: No, I'm out, Yeah, no, I think it would been

1221
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 3: so fun I went to I was invited to a

1222
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 3: premiere in London for the Magic Mic, the New Magic Mic,

1223
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 3: and their dancers were their dancers would give us lap

1224
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 3: dances and it's I've just had the time in my life.

1225
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 3: I thought it was so funny. My husband did too.

1226
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 3: I think that. I mean, every relationship is different, okay,

1227
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 3: And I think that you know your husband. You know

1228
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 3: what's going to upset him and what's not going to

1229
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 3: upset him, and vice versa. Like if that's something that

1230
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 3: he doesn't feel comfortable you going to, then you know,

1231
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 3: I can respect that.

1232
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 5: I can see that.

1233
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 3: Do I agree with how he reacted towards it, Absolutely not.

1234
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 3: And I think that he knows that Connor and Zach

1235
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 3: are actually close, which you don't see on the show,

1236
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 3: but they're friends and they've talked and whatnot. And Zach

1237
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 3: one thousand percent has owned up to that. I mean

1238
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 3: not on the show, but of course, like I think

1239
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 3: anyone's seeing that and been like, oh wow, like I

1240
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 3: reacted that way, well, yeah, like I should have not

1241
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 3: reacted that way. My emotions took over. I think just

1242
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 3: sometimes God, we just like forget that we're human beings

1243
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 3: and everyone reacts, and unfortunately that's how he reacted, and

1244
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 3: it just sucked. Nobody deserves to be treated that way,

1245
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 3: especially in a relationship. And I felt for her watching that.

1246
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that really to watch.

1247
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: Did they really not know that's where they were going?

1248
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 5: No, they didn't know. They really didn't know.

1249
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: So that's tough because that's that's so different. You know,

1250
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: they knew their husbands would feel that way, but they

1251
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: did not know.

1252
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 4: They were going.

1253
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 5: That's a different thing. Yeah, I'm sure she wouldn't have

1254
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 5: to go.

1255
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: Can I just say one thing that bothered me the

1256
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: most about the show though, he me.

1257
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 5: On my heel.

1258
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 4: Made me angry for you.

1259
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 2: Even at that point, I was like, I wasn't like

1260
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 2: the total team went, but like, but I was watching

1261
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: that's that's low guys showing that.

1262
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 6: And also there was fifty five producers that saw you

1263
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 6: walk out.

1264
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 4: I don't like it.

1265
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 3: I know, it was just like cool.

1266
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: No, I don't like that they put their last name

1267
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: on it and no one else's last name.

1268
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 3: Jim and Zach?

1269
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 4: What about it?

1270
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 3: A fleck?

1271
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 5: What about it? Oh my god?

1272
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 4: Yeah their last name?

1273
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 3: Are they?

1274
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: What about one else's last name was on there?

1275
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 2: Oh?

1276
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 3: I didn't even notice that. Yeah, oh my god. It

1277
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 3: drove me crazy, probably because of the fleck well obviously.

1278
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 5: But I don't like that who.

1279
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 4: Because everybody had to just Whitney.

1280
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: They're like cousins or something, Bennett, but they've never if

1281
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: they even met No, they've never even met so and

1282
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: it had nothing to do with y'all, but it it

1283
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: drove me crazy interesting. I'm like, we don't need to

1284
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: have their last name on it. I'm like, at least

1285
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: but everybody else's last name.

1286
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 4: You think you're not paying attention that.

1287
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: Kind of stuff. I'm not a real call nailed so

1288
00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: mad even we get it remind me of anyways, moving on,

1289
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: this was so lovely, Like you are beautiful. You are

1290
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: such a sweet I've been team Whitney from the beginning.

1291
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 3: I'm just.

1292
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,919
Speaker 1: Having said that. One of my friends did say, wait,

1293
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: did she really put the stick and the cake?

1294
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 3: One thousand percent? I did, And listen, I cor axed

1295
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 3: the hell out of that thing around it.

1296
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 4: I'm talking about that's fun.

1297
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: Literally because I told him my friends that I told

1298
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: to watch the show that you were going to be here,

1299
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: and they're like, I just really need to know did

1300
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: she actually put that in the cake.

1301
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 3: Like, oh I think she did. Oh my god, I

1302
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 3: love it funny enough. I'm pretty sure the frosting was

1303
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 3: like a fruity pebble crossing too.

1304
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 6: A sponsorship from those peoples that actually.

1305
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 4: Like the.

1306
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 2: Okay, final last words? Anything else you want to just say?

1307
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 2: Clear up, like this is your last Like what do

1308
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 2: you want to say?

1309
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Speaker 3: I keep going back to when you were talking about

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Speaker 3: the Like, in my mind, I keep going back to

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Speaker 3: when you were talking about the leaving the group chat

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01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 3: and like hoping that somebody would reach out. I get

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Speaker 3: how dramatic that is, and I get how irrational that is.

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Speaker 2: I also understand though, too, in my emotional moments, I

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01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 2: would probably like Catherine says, oh yeah, so.

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Speaker 4: I went, I would have maybe just muted it.

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01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 3: But that's there is you know, like the dude with

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01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 3: the sign. Have you ever heard seen him on Instagram?

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01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 3: Dude with a sign. There's one he's holding up and

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01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 3: he's saying just mute, don't unfollow, very demure, very classy,

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01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 3: or something like, yeah, I probably should have taken that advice,

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01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 3: which I would have seen that sign. Yeah. I feel

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01:00:56,120 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 3: like everything in that moment was very irrational. I'm very dramatic.

1324
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 3: And when I look back at it, him just like whoa,

1325
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 3: Like what was going on in your life to make

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01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 3: those decisions? And again, I just you.

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01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 6: Didn't commit a felony. You just left chat. Yeah, I

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01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 6: don't think it is. I also think things get noisy.

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01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 6: It's like, oh my word, like I just need this,

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01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 6: Like I need this.

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01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: I muting a group chat doesn't help.

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01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 2: You can see if you're already in odds with people, people,

1333
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 2: Oh she just wants attention, Like I can forget it.

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01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 3: I totally get that. And I wasn't like, oh, please,

1335
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 3: like everybody come and save me, like, but I was

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01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 3: there was a part of me that was like hoping

1337
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 3: that like Macon Mchayla would have like called and been

1338
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 3: like who what's going on?

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01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 5: What are you doing? You know, and it would have

1340
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 5: been like I don't know what's going on.

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01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 3: So can you help me?

1342
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 6: Back?

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01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: I think that that's fair. I mean, it may not

1344
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: be the best way to handle something, but w you're

1345
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: in a way reaching out or you're asking for help

1346
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: in a sense, you know what I mean, Like it

1347
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: may not be the right way want someone to go

1348
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: like you're like I'm not okay. Can someone please see

1349
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: this and call me, you know what I mean? And

1350
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: that's I think that when you really get down to it,

1351
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: when we make these emotional, rash decisions, all of us,

1352
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, especially when we're hormonal and all the things

1353
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: you're fighting with your friends, you know, I think that

1354
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: you can usually see that there's a reason behind it all.

1355
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 4: It's not just to be Yeah.

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01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 3: And there's a scene that isn't in the show where

1357
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 3: after the divorce party, there's another scene where we go

1358
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 3: to another party and we're all together and I'm confronting

1359
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 3: everyone about what Jesse had told me, like may being

1360
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 3: like what is going on? Like you know, and then

1361
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 3: people saying these things and I'm even saying those moments

1362
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 3: like oh, I can totally get that, like I see that,

1363
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 3: like yeah, I do have a very controlling personality, and

1364
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, like I'm so sorry, bah, And I

1365
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 3: still felt attacked, like I'm just like God, like I

1366
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 3: don't know what to say, like what do you want?

1367
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 3: Do you want from me? Like I just didn't know,

1368
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 3: and so leaving that that when I was just like

1369
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm done. But you don't see that

1370
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 3: scene in the show, But that's when I like separated myself.

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01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 5: That's when they all went to Vegas and everything.

1372
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Speaker 2: One last thing, too, is what do you do with

1373
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 2: the comments? Because there's been a lot of Kat even

1374
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 2: mentioned something today in our group, there's been some comments

1375
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 2: that people will leave the lead comments about your husband.

1376
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 4: What were they saying earlier?

1377
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 5: Oh, everybody thinks that he's gay?

1378
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm not.

1379
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, but I never thought about it, honestly,

1380
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: and then I saw those comments.

1381
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 2: So I'm like, what do you do with the personal

1382
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 2: hate comments towards you? Which again, people are just so

1383
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 2: nasty and they just think that people are immortal and

1384
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 2: not humane, And then how do you kind of because

1385
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 2: there is for me, anytime I would go into my

1386
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 2: DMS or read anything about my husband, it was immediate

1387
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 2: like it is something and they be discovered today, IM

1388
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 2: going to find out a new discovery?

1389
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 4: Am I going to?

1390
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 3: Like?

1391
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 2: Is something going to come to light? So I'm curious,

1392
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 2: like do you have that direction? Are you guys just

1393
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 2: so together that like you're.

1394
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, like we just laugh about it. Yeah, it's just

1395
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 3: so ridiculous. I think it's because there's a scene where,

1396
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 3: like I'm telling my friends. It's the scene with in

1397
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 3: the first episode with Macy Machayla to me and Taylor

1398
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 3: and I'm telling my friends for the first time, like

1399
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 3: everything that happened, and Mikayla says something like I can

1400
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 3: see how he was like confused sexually or something, and

1401
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 3: I feel like people just like totally took that out

1402
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 3: of context. And then also the change of the hairstyles.

1403
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm like, do I need to put out

1404
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 3: a sex tape or something because I think we're fine.

1405
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 3: He's definitely not good. Yeah, we're good, man, So we

1406
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 3: just laugh about it.

1407
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 2: Well, and then your personal stuff, anything you want to

1408
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 2: say to those people my personal no, like people that

1409
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 2: are so awfully rude on.

1410
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 5: What's that one?

1411
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 3: There's this CARDI be comes up and she accepts a

1412
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 3: word and she like, thanks to all my haters because

1413
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 3: those are the one paying my bills or something like.

1414
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 5: Whatever, Like I don't care.

1415
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 3: Like I again, if you were to ask me when

1416
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 3: I was going through what I was going through with

1417
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 3: when Liam was in the hospital, Oh yeah, I was

1418
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 3: so affected by that because I had never experienced anything

1419
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 3: like that. But then now I know, I'm just like

1420
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 3: people are gonna say whatever they want, and that's fine.

1421
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 3: They have the freedom to say that, Like, go for it.

1422
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 3: Now I get to choose what do I get to

1423
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 3: accept into my life and what I'm not going to accept.

1424
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 2: My therapist calls it letting the gas in. She's like,

1425
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 2: when you open up the window, you're letting the gas in.

1426
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 2: Do you want to let the gas in or do

1427
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 2: you want to close you know, She's like, why would

1428
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 2: you want to gas yourself with comments? And I was like, Okay,

1429
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 2: you're so right, I'm going to close the door and

1430
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 2: not open it.

1431
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, And unfortunately, a lot of times, I really feel

1432
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 3: like those people who are leaving such nasty comments are

1433
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 3: usually people that are just not happy with their.

1434
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 2: Own life saying that, man, yeah, that's where I also, yeah, tell,

1435
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 2: I'm like I always pray for them. I'm like, I

1436
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 2: hope their hearts can soften and whatever they're going through.

1437
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 3: Because I'm just like, when I read it, I'm just like,

1438
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 3: I would never ever out of my way to say

1439
01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 3: what you had just said to me.

1440
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 2: Well, they were kind of obsessed to It's almost like

1441
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 2: thanks for being so obsessed.

1442
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 3: And that's what I mean. With CARDI Ba'm just like great,

1443
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 3: like keep in my engagement up, keep on coming like

1444
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,439
Speaker 3: it just it doesn't affect me. What hurts most is like, yeah,

1445
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 3: the friendships that I had had from the cast and

1446
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 3: probably seeing stuff like that, videos that are made, or

1447
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 3: what's being said about me from them, that's definitely what

1448
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 3: hurts the most.

1449
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 4: Well, Whitney, thank you for coming on. I'm really glad we.

1450
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 3: Got to do this to me too.

1451
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 4: I like you, come back, come back around, full circle

1452
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 4: the bye girl.

1453
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 3: Thank you