Speaker 1: Hi, Hi, Carol. She's a queen and she's getting not
Speaker 1: afraid to fail, so just let it flow. No one
Speaker 1: can Carol sounds Carol. Okay, I'm so excited because I'm
Speaker 1: here with Danielle Bile, the greatest lash specialist. Um, what
Speaker 1: is your official title? I guess you could say specialist artist,
Speaker 1: special art. Many names, many names, and so lashes. It's
Speaker 1: something that has become very important to me. I never
Speaker 1: knew how much I needed lashes, so I just had
Speaker 1: my stylist sounds so boogie right now, lash awesome. List
Speaker 1: all the things I just had my stylist on Kirby
Speaker 1: Ryan Style. Everyone needs to check her out for a
Speaker 1: wardrobe analysis. She'll change your life. And I don't think
Speaker 1: caring about how you look if you're not. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a fine line with everything everything, but it really
Speaker 1: helps you feel a certain kind of way when you
Speaker 1: look a certain kind of way. So like lashes. When
Speaker 1: I have lashes, I feel so confident because I don't
Speaker 1: have to wear makeup. I feel like I can just
Speaker 1: walk out and I feel great. The lashes feel long,
Speaker 1: It makes me feel empowered, It makes me feel the
Speaker 1: way I want to feel inside and that could be
Speaker 1: called vanity. I mean, maybe it is, but it gives
Speaker 1: me confidence, well cool it empowerment I mean, and so
Speaker 1: talk to talk to me about that, like your job,
Speaker 1: and how it is empowering and how like it is
Speaker 1: also vanity, but like I didn't even know it exist
Speaker 1: until I moved to Nashville and it was an option.
Speaker 1: But now I feel like the world has opened up
Speaker 1: and you can get lashes and all sorts of stuff
Speaker 1: in a lot of places now. But tell me about
Speaker 1: how you even get into it, how you walk that
Speaker 1: line with empowerment to dine lots of questions. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that the main thing for women these days
Speaker 1: is that anything that makes you feel better, do it.
Speaker 1: If it's lashes, if it's botox, whatever it is. If
Speaker 1: it's making you feel good, who cares, Like, as long
Speaker 1: as you're not hurting yourself, do it. And lashes are
Speaker 1: one of those things where you get them put on,
Speaker 1: you come see us, and then you wake up every
Speaker 1: day looking at the same you look awake. You don't
Speaker 1: have to do anything. You could roll out of bed
Speaker 1: and go do anything, and people don't you know, you
Speaker 1: don't have to put anything else on. So I think maintenance.
Speaker 1: It's like maintenance. Yeah, I mean you come to see
Speaker 1: us every few weeks and you're good to go. You
Speaker 1: don't have to do anything else if you don't want to,
Speaker 1: like so bougie like I said, But really it's it
Speaker 1: allows you to live super low maintenance because you don't
Speaker 1: have to wake up and work about You don't want
Speaker 1: to wake up earlier because they're already done. You don't
Speaker 1: have to do the mascara routine where you're trying to
Speaker 1: scrub it off at night and somehow you still wake
Speaker 1: up with it completely under your eyes. You don't do
Speaker 1: any of that, just skip it all. Besides me hate
Speaker 1: taking makeup off, Yeah, I hate taking makeup off. Yeah.
Speaker 1: An hour every few weeks compared to that extra half
Speaker 1: hour every day, you're saving time, truly. Yeah. Okay, So
Speaker 1: there's so many parts to who you are, and I'm
Speaker 1: not becoming. I've been coming to get lashes now for
Speaker 1: I think over three years, I think, so before either
Speaker 1: of us had babies. Before and into Danielle. It's like
Speaker 1: going to the hair salon. Because I'm laying here on
Speaker 1: her bed, my eyes are closed obviously because she's seeing
Speaker 1: lashes and I'm here like every two to three weeks,
Speaker 1: and I'm here for like thirty anywhere for thirty minutes
Speaker 1: an hour every like let's just call it like two
Speaker 1: and a half, three weeks, three weeks. Yeah, So you
Speaker 1: really get to know someone and we talk about everything.
Speaker 1: I like lay here and I feel like we cover everything.
Speaker 1: But yet we never look at each other. Ifans are closed,
Speaker 1: it's a chance to be vulnerable because you don't have
Speaker 1: to look at each other. You just get to say
Speaker 1: whatever you're feeling. And people just dump stuff on you.
Speaker 1: They do, and because they can't even see so it's
Speaker 1: like they're just talking to thee they can't see us.
Speaker 1: We're basically therapist at this point. Um, they can't see us.
Speaker 1: We're no judgment zone, so you can say what you
Speaker 1: need to say. It's it's really it's ideal. Do you
Speaker 1: ever just like are you just ever like rolling your
Speaker 1: eyes at someone and you're like, oh my gosh, shut
Speaker 1: up rolling my eyes. But sometimes when people say stuff,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, oh, okay, all right, we're friends now.
Speaker 1: We have to be friends now because you just said
Speaker 1: that I just told me way, you just I just
Speaker 1: found out your whole life in an hour and we
Speaker 1: just met. But it's great. It's great, and then we
Speaker 1: just continue that relationship for years and it's like it
Speaker 1: starts so easily. Do you know so much about so
Speaker 1: many people? So many people, so many people. It's kind
Speaker 1: of great though, he was rolling it. Yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: many people. It's good. It's good. It's especially good when
Speaker 1: friends come in and one friend has already told you
Speaker 1: something that the other friend maybe hasn't shared yet, but
Speaker 1: you already know when you're just waiting for them to share.
Speaker 1: It's good. You're just waiting for them, You're just waiting.
Speaker 1: So talk to me about how you got started. Because
Speaker 1: you're from Indiana, Indiana and Florida not really. Yeah, our
Speaker 1: family has. It's really funny because my husband's family too,
Speaker 1: has moved to Florida. So um, we're split. But yeah,
Speaker 1: our families are basically in both and they're completely split.
Speaker 1: So my mom is still in Indiana. But that's where
Speaker 1: I grew up, small town, Indiana. Um, so yeah, you
Speaker 1: grew up with your husband Tanner, small town? Yeah, I did,
Speaker 1: And I started dating when you were held like ten, Um,
Speaker 1: are your book photos are next to each other? No?
Speaker 1: I dated other people in between, but breakups. We had
Speaker 1: breakups in between, but it wasn't solid. Since not solid.
Speaker 1: There were like around four years or somewhere it was
Speaker 1: not but so no one really stood a chance. When
Speaker 1: you start dating, when you're tin, there's really no one.
Speaker 1: Nobody really compares, and it's like everybody else just eventually
Speaker 1: gets really annoying and you're like, huh. And then there's
Speaker 1: that one person who you don't really seem to get
Speaker 1: annoyed with, and so nobody really Yeah, um, luckily for it.
Speaker 1: Now I'm just kidding. Um, he might say unluckily for him,
Speaker 1: but no, yeah, it's pretty much just been him. Everybody
Speaker 1: else just it's annoying. Yeah, there have been other people
Speaker 1: in between. Okay, so when did you get this very
Speaker 1: strong work ethic? Because something that I haven't noticed about
Speaker 1: you for these few years that i've been coming is
Speaker 1: you're always adding a business on. You're like always doing something.
Speaker 1: You're doing a renovation and you're doing it yourself. You're
Speaker 1: adding on a business, you're bringing you're adding on a
Speaker 1: different like a section to your already thriving business. It's
Speaker 1: like and your mom and you went through intometriosis and
Speaker 1: had a very long emotional journey which we talked about,
Speaker 1: which I kind of want to tap into a lot
Speaker 1: of women struggle with that and how do you find
Speaker 1: time to do all this? And when did you get
Speaker 1: this insane work ethic? Um, it took time, honestly, but
Speaker 1: I think watching both of my parents do their own
Speaker 1: thing for your first divorced at a young age. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was um five based almost six when they divorced,
Speaker 1: so kind of just watching them split and still do
Speaker 1: their own thing and have thriving businesses. And my dad
Speaker 1: is the type of guy who if he wants to
Speaker 1: do something, he's going to try it, no matter what
Speaker 1: it is. It's like, oh, I want to start this
Speaker 1: business or I want to go do this and it
Speaker 1: doesn't let all the like what if what if I
Speaker 1: don't make any money? Or what if it doesn't take off?
Speaker 1: I don't really know how to do this? Yeah, what if?
Speaker 1: What do I need to learn? Like that's never been
Speaker 1: his thing. He's constantly like, Okay, I think I can
Speaker 1: do that. I'm going to do it. I admire people
Speaker 1: like that, and it does. You just have tons of energy,
Speaker 1: tons of energy and tons of like how did you
Speaker 1: learn that? Or like how did you perfect that type stuff?
Speaker 1: He's just one of those. Yeah, one of those like
Speaker 1: he tries that he can do it. Like, um, when
Speaker 1: I was in high school, he started building a house, um,
Speaker 1: a family house, and it was like, Okay, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have the people help you, you know, and he's like, no,
Speaker 1: just to build the whole house, the whole house, built
Speaker 1: the whole house, built the whole house by himself. Did
Speaker 1: he have people come over and help him, No, but
Speaker 1: he had to have people like help him hold stuff. No,
Speaker 1: but no. So he constructed this this lift out of
Speaker 1: wood and trusses and was like lifting trusses up by himself.
Speaker 1: Like what about like foundation and things like? Yeah. So
Speaker 1: that's the funny part, right. So, like we get a
Speaker 1: phone call from him and he's like, hey, let's go
Speaker 1: to lunch. And he calls myself and my youngest other
Speaker 1: and he's like, let's go to lunch. My middle brother
Speaker 1: was in school at the time, and uh, okay, let's
Speaker 1: go to lunch. No, we get there and it's hey,
Speaker 1: this concrete truck is almost here and I need help
Speaker 1: because it's going to drive faster than I can smooth
Speaker 1: it out. So like, here are these tools. So y'all
Speaker 1: all lived in the house that he built. It's going
Speaker 1: to fall through. I would be a little nervous that.
Speaker 1: I hope it was a one story house. No, it
Speaker 1: was a two story house. I don't know if i'd
Speaker 1: get on that second. And I did live in that
Speaker 1: house because it ended up being finished while Um, I
Speaker 1: had moved home after college, so it's your room upstairs.
Speaker 1: It was lived like this bonus area upstairs because I
Speaker 1: was like twenty three at this point and just being like, Dad,
Speaker 1: I'm coming to live with you because life. Um, never
Speaker 1: freaked out or something. It was weird, never freaked out.
Speaker 1: Did it feels sturdy? It did? Yeah, And it was like,
Speaker 1: you've built this house insane. Yeah, that's a house he did.
Speaker 1: He's not at all like in construction. Um, that's kind
Speaker 1: of what he does. Okay, yeah he hasn't. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: kind of what he does. But it's also those things
Speaker 1: where he does so many other things, So how do
Speaker 1: you perfect that? So you kind of got this insane work, ethic,
Speaker 1: hustle drive, and he I'm sure he doesn't deal with
Speaker 1: people coming up with excuses very well. He doesn't know.
Speaker 1: He's like, Okay, change it. That's just my dad's thing.
Speaker 1: It's okay, change it, um. I love that. Okay, change
Speaker 1: it's not working over changing so many planning is not
Speaker 1: going to help you. The plan is not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: So many times, I feel like people get stuck in
Speaker 1: a rut and they think they can only do this
Speaker 1: one thing, the only one way that something can work
Speaker 1: out or go. There are so there's endless routes and
Speaker 1: it's the same destination, or maybe you're not even supposed
Speaker 1: to go to this one destination you thought you were
Speaker 1: going to go to, right, Like, maybe that isn't where
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be, so you're not happy, so fix it.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're really good at pivoting. I try.
Speaker 1: I try to be better at pivoting than I used
Speaker 1: to be before. If something would happen my younger years
Speaker 1: and it was something that was out of my control,
Speaker 1: I would have a many meltdown, and then over the
Speaker 1: years I kind of gets over, like how you feel
Speaker 1: like it's over. And then over the years it's kind
Speaker 1: of those things where I'm like, okay, change it, like
Speaker 1: it's not working, we just have to change it, um,
Speaker 1: And I'm you know, just like anyone else. I can
Speaker 1: get in that place where I'm stuck on something and
Speaker 1: I'm kind of dwelling on it, but within a day
Speaker 1: or two, it's like, okay, now, like you know the
Speaker 1: same thing, it's not working, change it, um, you want
Speaker 1: to try something else? Do it? Like, who's it going
Speaker 1: to hurt? When I feel like you, it's like when
Speaker 1: we first when I first started um getting to know you,
Speaker 1: we both were like on our baby journey and I
Speaker 1: struggled to get pregnant for a year and I had
Speaker 1: like a miscarriage, a chemical pregnancy, and it was so
Speaker 1: devastating and depressing, and you feel like everyone else can
Speaker 1: get pregnant and know you, why can't you? And it's
Speaker 1: so hard, and it's just it starts to really it
Speaker 1: comes at you like bullets, like it really is so
Speaker 1: painful when you're longing for a job. Every doctor's appointment
Speaker 1: I went to where it would be like something else
Speaker 1: was bad news, or let's try this. It was almost
Speaker 1: like defeat. And that was one of the most struggles.
Speaker 1: I think one of the things I struggled the most
Speaker 1: with was the infertility journey and just you know, the
Speaker 1: whole time my husband and I had been married. It
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, we want babies, and you always think
Speaker 1: it's just gonna happen. So it's just gonna happen because
Speaker 1: people accidentally have babies and and so then it's like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: so it's not working. And then you go to the
Speaker 1: doctor and you think they're going to tell you like,
Speaker 1: oh no, this is easy, and then it's not easy.
Speaker 1: And then another year passes and you struggle with you know,
Speaker 1: seeing people around you getting pregnant and wanting to be
Speaker 1: joyful for them, but at the same time, it's always
Speaker 1: in your head, Okay, why isn't this working for me?
Speaker 1: And it's a very very low devastating field. Is like
Speaker 1: you unless you unless you kind of have like experience
Speaker 1: that you really don't know how how awful. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: people can say like, oh, just be patient, and that's
Speaker 1: like one of the worst things. I think. It's oh,
Speaker 1: it'll happen when it happens, and it's like I get that,
Speaker 1: but you know, if you've never experienced it, it's one
Speaker 1: of those things where it's just like you can't even
Speaker 1: explain like just how deep the devastated Asian feels it.
Speaker 1: And it's and you feel almost like you failed, like
Speaker 1: your body is failing you, like, Okay, I can do
Speaker 1: anything else that I tried to do, why can't I
Speaker 1: do this? And very humbling. Yeah it is. It's a
Speaker 1: nice slice of humble. Um. So that was one of
Speaker 1: the biggest things I've ever really struggled with. And then
Speaker 1: coming to organization like Okay, this just might not work.
Speaker 1: So is that what happened? You came to the realization
Speaker 1: because you had been to the fertility doctor. Did you
Speaker 1: have surgeries done to or like lasers? So we Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we had switched fertility doctors. Um. Actually the year
Speaker 1: that I found out I was pregnant, that February, we
Speaker 1: were switching fertility doctors. And that just so happened to
Speaker 1: be the month after we went on a vacation with
Speaker 1: our best friends and my business partner as well, um
Speaker 1: to Hawaii, and we had switched her name. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: she's in Nashville, and we were switching from Bernwick to Nashville,
Speaker 1: and we had an appointment sketch with her and MoU
Speaker 1: with her and they did the ultrasound again and they
Speaker 1: were like, okay, well, your tubes appear to be completely blocked. Like,
Speaker 1: we can obviously verify this with another treatment or check,
Speaker 1: but she's like, I really just think that's where we're
Speaker 1: at at this point, Like your tubes need to come
Speaker 1: out there, you want your So she wanted to schedule
Speaker 1: me for surgery to have my tubes removed because she
Speaker 1: thought that it would be easier to go in for
Speaker 1: an IVF cycle if my tubes weren't in the way,
Speaker 1: because um, the way my engine meteorosis has caused some
Speaker 1: things to happen. Um, she saw it easier okay, and
Speaker 1: then we'd have more of a success rate okay, And
Speaker 1: so I was like, oh cool, it's just another blow there.
Speaker 1: So that really means we're not doing it on our own.
Speaker 1: And at this point it's been like basically four years
Speaker 1: five years of this. So I'm like, okay, we'll schedule it.
Speaker 1: And then it was like within a week later, I
Speaker 1: was finding out that I was actually pregnant. Why is
Speaker 1: it that always happened? It was always happened. People say
Speaker 1: that all the time. It's like, because you guys had
Speaker 1: even thought about adoption and like you were really into
Speaker 1: moving on next next? Really, yeah, we were like what
Speaker 1: are the next options we need? Really wanted kids, didn't
Speaker 1: you know? Adoption great. I think it's awesome. My mother
Speaker 1: in law's adopted, so that was always on the table
Speaker 1: for us too, And it was just kind of like, Okay,
Speaker 1: where do we move forward? And then to find out
Speaker 1: it was pregnant was just kind of insane. I felt
Speaker 1: like I was like standing still in the middle of like,
Speaker 1: you know, everything just surrounding me, Like yeah, I was yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm sorry, what how does that feel?
Speaker 1: You know? I interviewed your interviews and come out after
Speaker 1: this when I interviewed um Lacy Lacey K Booth, who's
Speaker 1: like was an an American idol and just precious and
Speaker 1: durable and so amazing, and we're talking about what it
Speaker 1: feels like to have dreams come true because she's had
Speaker 1: so many dreams come true and like having a pregnancy
Speaker 1: and a healthy pregnancy and a baby that is actually
Speaker 1: a huge dream for a lot of women and men,
Speaker 1: but women especially. What does that feel like when you
Speaker 1: have been walking this infertility line for so long and
Speaker 1: you feel hopeless that you will be able to have
Speaker 1: a carry a baby and have a baby, and then
Speaker 1: you find out you're regnant, Like, how do you feel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it was it was basically mixed emotions because I
Speaker 1: think that we were both just so excited, but I
Speaker 1: was so scared because nothing had ever worked, and I
Speaker 1: was so like, Okay, how what do I need to
Speaker 1: do to make sure that like he gets here? And
Speaker 1: so I was scared and then but at the same time,
Speaker 1: you're just so excited, Um that are you scared to
Speaker 1: be too excited? Yeah, You're almost scared to be too
Speaker 1: excited because you're like, Okay, well, what if something happens
Speaker 1: And it's like, you know so many people that something
Speaker 1: has happened too, and so it's just no one is
Speaker 1: exempt from something exactly. So it's like, Okay, I don't
Speaker 1: really want to build this up for myself because if
Speaker 1: something does happen, I feel like I'm just going to
Speaker 1: be completely crushed, like maybe not come back from it
Speaker 1: crushed like so, but then as time went on, it
Speaker 1: was one of those things where we just got more
Speaker 1: and more excited and I was like, oh, we could
Speaker 1: do a nursery okay, and then you know you actually
Speaker 1: I went into labor three weeks early, so that was
Speaker 1: semi scary, but I was also just so excited to
Speaker 1: meet him that I was like, I don't care, Let's
Speaker 1: do this thing. And I just remember being like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's do it. Let's do this thing. Let's get him
Speaker 1: here and talk to him about the moment when you
Speaker 1: met which I love his name CoA. Tell me what
Speaker 1: that means, because you guys like love Hawaii. It's like
Speaker 1: a big part of who you are. Love Hawaii, and
Speaker 1: mostly because Hawaii is how we got CoA in the
Speaker 1: first place, and so I attribute Hawaii every time, just Hawai,
Speaker 1: like I just it's like attribute. Sorry that was discussing.
Speaker 1: It's it's just one of those things where it's like
Speaker 1: that happy place and just like going there and not
Speaker 1: being stressed. Isn't that wonderful to have a place that
Speaker 1: you can think of that you can go to this
Speaker 1: absolute peace? And yes, it's just enjoyment here joy for
Speaker 1: us because we went and everything they're so beautiful that
Speaker 1: it was one of the times in our life where
Speaker 1: we actually calmed down and just enjoyed. And then to
Speaker 1: know that co is kind of product a product of
Speaker 1: that was like, oh, okay, so CoA mean CoA. Um
Speaker 1: we saw my husband and I, um, we're actually a
Speaker 1: beach bar um next to the hotel we were staying
Speaker 1: in because Tarran was obsessed with lava flows. She's my
Speaker 1: business partner. Yeah, and lash Out. Oh everyone, this company
Speaker 1: is called lash Out. That's where you come to get
Speaker 1: your amazing lashes. Yes, so my business partner, Taran um
Speaker 1: It was obsessed with lava flows. So we were always
Speaker 1: at this little beach bar. I think it's Pina Clode
Speaker 1: and Strawberry Dacrie, but I could be totally wrong. That
Speaker 1: sounds like a great tipsy headache. Yes she was. She
Speaker 1: loved him. So we were drinking those like basically the
Speaker 1: whole time, and oh god, and that's what we're not
Speaker 1: a beach trip. You drinking was frozen slush. This is awesome.
Speaker 1: And the name of the hotel, which I made butcher slightly,
Speaker 1: was the Hollakoa and it's a military hotel, so it's
Speaker 1: like home of the Warrior. It's like brave warrior is
Speaker 1: what Cola means. And so then when we finally got
Speaker 1: pregnant and it had taken so long, we were like, okay,
Speaker 1: that is the name. Because we saw on this cup
Speaker 1: and I had taken like a picture of it Cola
Speaker 1: and had put like a little heart around it and
Speaker 1: posted it to my story, being like, oh, lava flows.
Speaker 1: But then the more we thought about it, we were like,
Speaker 1: CoA that if you know, we get lucky enough to
Speaker 1: actually have a child, that's his or her name, because
Speaker 1: it's either it's Cola. And so when we finally found
Speaker 1: out we were pregnant, my husband and I were both
Speaker 1: just like, it's Cola. It's great that he just symbolizes
Speaker 1: that feeling for you. Yes, you know his name symbolized.
Speaker 1: It's just pure joy. Oh yeah. I feel like one
Speaker 1: of those people who you know, you always here when
Speaker 1: people have kids, just how emotional they get all the time.
Speaker 1: But it's like I'll just be watching TV randomly and
Speaker 1: in tears because I'm like, oh, you just literally bit
Speaker 1: me and it was it's great. It was so it
Speaker 1: was so cute, like it's great, like everything he does.
Speaker 1: I feel like Hanna and I my husband were just
Speaker 1: over the moon about it. And it's one of those
Speaker 1: things where you don't think it's ever going to happen,
Speaker 1: so someone and get it. It's just I have to
Speaker 1: cherish every single second of it. I think that is
Speaker 1: a huge difference because I felt the same way I
Speaker 1: just when Sunny came here, I was so thankful and grateful,
Speaker 1: and I knew how hard it was to have her.
Speaker 1: Some people don't know how hard. They don't get pregnant.
Speaker 1: People think every time you have sex you're going to
Speaker 1: get pregny, and that it's not She's not accurate. It
Speaker 1: just does not happen when you were on the other side.
Speaker 1: I'm not getting pregnant. Every time you have sex. It's
Speaker 1: like very like we talked about, it's hard, it's hard journey,
Speaker 1: and then you get pregnant and then you have the
Speaker 1: baby and you're like it's like you can't actually believe
Speaker 1: it's happening. Yeah, I can't. It's like we can't believe
Speaker 1: it's happening. And like everything he does, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's like he usted that five minutes ago. But every
Speaker 1: time it's almost like I still have to be excited.
Speaker 1: And it's also like you just want them to know
Speaker 1: how loved they are and like how hard you fought
Speaker 1: for them, how wanted they are. Yeah, like I never
Speaker 1: want him to question that. So it's like one of
Speaker 1: those things where it's like I have to cheer you
Speaker 1: on for everything, like, oh, you're pulling my pictures off
Speaker 1: the shelf. Great, buddy, you're moving, You're doing it. I know. See.
Speaker 1: I'm coming to this point though. Where I've been, I've
Speaker 1: been the same as you've been, like the biggest cheerleader
Speaker 1: everything that he has a great but now we're actually
Speaker 1: like entering into school and like you can't just grab
Speaker 1: every toy from everybody, and it's not really that cute anymore. Actually,
Speaker 1: I have to learn how to parent you. Like, um,
Speaker 1: we have this like um console table with all these
Speaker 1: pictures on it, and I'm learning that, oh, my kid's
Speaker 1: mobile now, so the glass picture frame that's also mirrored
Speaker 1: is probably not something you should play with. But it's
Speaker 1: like we tell him no, and he's like heartbroken, but
Speaker 1: I really wanted that. You. Like, guys are really that
Speaker 1: big of a ill kind of like oh it is glass,
Speaker 1: good call, good call. But you know, I have you
Speaker 1: run into and I don't know what your journey is
Speaker 1: like having more kids or whatever. But like, so we
Speaker 1: got we got blessed with one, both of us did,
Speaker 1: and it was like such an every second has just
Speaker 1: been so emotionally charged and love. But now I'm at
Speaker 1: this place where it's like everyone's like, oh, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have baby too, You're gonna have baby or two, And
Speaker 1: like Michael and I have tried, we have like actively tried,
Speaker 1: not happening still, and I'm like, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: getting to this place where I'm like I was, I'm
Speaker 1: open to it, but do you feel pressure if I
Speaker 1: don't know what ye plans are for baby? And you like,
Speaker 1: like what if you only have an only child? Like
Speaker 1: have you? That is now like a whole another another conversation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it is. It's weird because I have this like
Speaker 1: weird guilt line where when I was pregnant, even though
Speaker 1: I wanted to be pregnant so badly, I hated it.
Speaker 1: I was sick, it was not fun, but um, labor
Speaker 1: was so great and my doctor was so great that
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I could do this again, because going
Speaker 1: into it, I was like one time rubbing one kid,
Speaker 1: and now that co is about to turn one, I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: so I could have like ten more of you and
Speaker 1: be totally chill with it. So I don't know. We're
Speaker 1: in this weird place where it's like, Okay, now do
Speaker 1: you worry about fertility again? Yes, I do. I definitely
Speaker 1: worry about fertility again, but I feel like at this
Speaker 1: point we're just so thankful to have Cola that if
Speaker 1: it happens, cool, right, if it doesn't, okay, we just
Speaker 1: have CoA and he's an only child. Would you go
Speaker 1: through like fertility steps again? No? No, no, that for
Speaker 1: How do you know that you don't want to do that?
Speaker 1: Because I feel the same way, Like I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: open and I'm gonna try everything I can, but like
Speaker 1: I know my line that I don't want to go
Speaker 1: past because I just know I don't emotionally want to
Speaker 1: go past that. Yeah, my headspace at the time when
Speaker 1: we were trying in fertility treatments was not good. Um.
Speaker 1: Outwardly I was okay, but my husband has dealt with many,
Speaker 1: many meltdowns. Um, God love him. He was very patient
Speaker 1: and nobody ever talks about the infertility side for them.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what is it like for your husband because
Speaker 1: you're an emotional wreck, I'm sure, and it's just him
Speaker 1: constantly trying to make sure I'm good. But it's like
Speaker 1: I can't make sure he's good if I'm not good.
Speaker 1: So it was basically on him like constantly checking in
Speaker 1: on me. Were you kind of been dealing with the
Speaker 1: meltdowns where those meultdowns consistent for a while, You're pretty consistent,
Speaker 1: and just being in such a funk where I just
Speaker 1: don't want to do anything. I don't want to go anywhere.
Speaker 1: I don't care to like conversate like they were rough.
Speaker 1: They were rough. So was Tanner able to kind of
Speaker 1: like weather the storm pretty strongly? Yeah? He did. He
Speaker 1: did not waver. That's amazing. Yeah, he understood what's happening.
Speaker 1: He understood, super supportive and just constantly was you know, okay,
Speaker 1: well if that doesn't work, this will work, Like we
Speaker 1: have options, it's going to be fine. And if we
Speaker 1: never have a child, it's just us and we're chilling
Speaker 1: and we're doing everything and it's fine. Yeah, he's like,
Speaker 1: and it's fine. It's not the big of a deal,
Speaker 1: like put around each other for more than half our lives,
Speaker 1: so like we call it with a lot of vacations.
Speaker 1: If this doesn't work, it's cool. Um, So he was great.
Speaker 1: But I don't think I'm willing to put myself back
Speaker 1: in that place where there's even a chance for like
Speaker 1: medical treatments to fail for me, because that mental place
Speaker 1: isn't somewhere I really want to live in. So you'd
Speaker 1: rather just stay stay in my little bubble. To be
Speaker 1: or not to be, it happen exactly. If it works,
Speaker 1: it works, doesn't cool, and if it doesn't, are cool?
Speaker 1: The only child I am, uh so my husband's siblings
Speaker 1: are much older than him, so, um, for a lot
Speaker 1: of his childhood they would be in college or you know.
Speaker 1: So I feel like he knows the deal, like he
Speaker 1: can handle it. Like I've got brothers, so I never
Speaker 1: really knew the only child thing, but I feel like
Speaker 1: he can navigate go through that. But um, that's my
Speaker 1: only fear for Sonny is like is she gonna regret
Speaker 1: not having a right? Like because you talk to people
Speaker 1: who are only children and you're like, okay, so he
Speaker 1: kind of regret a little bit, but you know, they
Speaker 1: wish they had that bond. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: there's a problem problem every family dying exactly, Like even
Speaker 1: if you have the best of intentions in your heart
Speaker 1: is soap here and you love your kids or kids,
Speaker 1: like every kid problems. Yeah, And I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: either way, you're gonna do fun. You're gonna do great,
Speaker 1: but we'll see. Have you kind of settled into that
Speaker 1: mentality where you're just like wherever life flows is where
Speaker 1: you flow because you have so much on your plate. Like,
Speaker 1: and I want to get back to one of my
Speaker 1: original questions is like starting these businesses, having your drive,
Speaker 1: you started lash out and then you keep adding more
Speaker 1: stuff onto it while you're walking this infertility journey and
Speaker 1: having a baby and then like expanding your business in
Speaker 1: the middle of COVID. It's just like you have so
Speaker 1: much constantly going. So how do you juggle all of that? Um?
Speaker 1: I think maybe you said this to me once but
Speaker 1: mentioned that I thrive in chaos. I think I probably
Speaker 1: told you that, Yeah, and I think that I do.
Speaker 1: I think that for myself, it's always what's pushing me
Speaker 1: to like be a little better than I was before.
Speaker 1: You need a deadline. I need a deadline, And am
Speaker 1: I going to be doing it right at the deadline?
Speaker 1: So you want to probably why is it that you
Speaker 1: What is it about at the end of the deadline
Speaker 1: that really gets you going? I feel like that's my
Speaker 1: best work. I don't know what it is. The best work.
Speaker 1: It's like when the pressure is really on me, is
Speaker 1: when I'm like Okay, I can do this. Um, it's
Speaker 1: like I need that like a bit of a push sometimes.
Speaker 1: But I think I a thrive with a lot going
Speaker 1: on because that's just how it's been for me for
Speaker 1: so long, and wanting to do more and kind of
Speaker 1: needing to do more and always just being like Okay,
Speaker 1: well what can we do next? Like what else can
Speaker 1: we build? What can we do? And I think to
Speaker 1: part of that drive for me is wanting to make
Speaker 1: sure that when co is going through as big moments,
Speaker 1: I can be present to like do the work now.
Speaker 1: And I love that do the work, yeah, do the
Speaker 1: work now, build your brand now, because eventually I'm going
Speaker 1: to want to step back a little bit and be
Speaker 1: more present for CoA and be there for all those
Speaker 1: moments that really matter. So you're moreward thinking with your business,
Speaker 1: like you're thinking about the big long term picture in
Speaker 1: your goal and like where I want to be, where
Speaker 1: I want to be, what I want to do? Um, ideally,
Speaker 1: where do I see myself? Because I don't feel like
Speaker 1: there is a limit as to how far you can
Speaker 1: push your business and push yourself and how do you
Speaker 1: get to that headspace where you feel limitless because you
Speaker 1: just like you can always keep adding. I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, try it and if it
Speaker 1: doesn't work, it doesn't work, but at least you try
Speaker 1: it so you know, right, So you know with adding
Speaker 1: on stuff, it's like, Okay, this might not work or
Speaker 1: it might take off, and it might take a little
Speaker 1: bit to take off, but at least the money investment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's always some worry and the money for stuff.
Speaker 1: Even when money investment is needed, you'll just kind of
Speaker 1: take that risk. I feel that's scary for a lot
Speaker 1: of people. Yeah, it's definitely scary. But I do feel
Speaker 1: like I've been several places in my life where you
Speaker 1: have money, you don't have money, and you always make
Speaker 1: it work. Um, if I need to work more to
Speaker 1: like cover a venture that I want to take on,
Speaker 1: I'll do that. So you don't set out and like
Speaker 1: worry about, oh my gosh, I'm investing this much money
Speaker 1: up front and if it doesn't work, then I'll have
Speaker 1: to work these hours and do whatever. You're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: how do you know when your gut feeling is on point?
Speaker 1: Because I think people this is a good instinct. I
Speaker 1: always like to ask these kind of questions to entrepreneurs
Speaker 1: and people like yourself, How do you know when your
Speaker 1: gut says, yes, we're going for this, this is the
Speaker 1: right move, even though there's a financial investment. I'm going
Speaker 1: to have to work on the front end for to
Speaker 1: have a payout on the back end. But I believe
Speaker 1: in this. Like what is your gut feel like When
Speaker 1: it's a go, I feel like I don't have that hesitation.
Speaker 1: I'm ready to just go full steam ahead. Whereas if
Speaker 1: it's something where it's like teetering on the line of okay,
Speaker 1: this really might not work, I always have some hesitations,
Speaker 1: some resistance to it, or like I'll drag my feet
Speaker 1: and getting it done. So I feel like, if I'm
Speaker 1: doing that, I'm probably not going to add that on
Speaker 1: because if I'm check that, keep yourself and check with that.
Speaker 1: Now I can yeah, And then in the beginning it
Speaker 1: wasn't as easy. You can kind of yeah, you learn
Speaker 1: that about learn internal guidance system exactly. You kind of
Speaker 1: learn as you go, and when something feels resistant and
Speaker 1: you do it anyways, yeah, and you're like, oops, like
Speaker 1: that wasn't the best choice. I've done that so many
Speaker 1: times when I pushed the resistance through the resistance and
Speaker 1: I get deep into the project and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, my my soul, spirit, guidance system whatever, actually
Speaker 1: takes me down to my knees. Like it's like stop, stop,
Speaker 1: so you actually start to crumble and you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: so you can catch it all right now? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like now it's to the point where I tend
Speaker 1: to catch your really. Um, there are still some things
Speaker 1: where I'm like, I don't know about this one, but
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling that heavy resistance. So let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's see how it goes. Um, and this climate that
Speaker 1: we're living in after a whole year and whatever of uncertainty,
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, might as well, like because I've seen
Speaker 1: it can get pretty bad, but might as well give
Speaker 1: it a try. So at this point, just like adding
Speaker 1: stuff on that feels like it's going to work or
Speaker 1: feels like we can make it work, We're going to
Speaker 1: try it. So if it's a good addition to what
Speaker 1: you already have the yea, if it's a good addition
Speaker 1: to what we already have going, Um, it adds values. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it adds value. It adds team members that we can
Speaker 1: bring on and like, you know, have a working space
Speaker 1: with that, because it's always good to collaborate and get
Speaker 1: fresh people, fresh ideas. So if it's something that seems
Speaker 1: to add value, um, even if it's just like with
Speaker 1: good communication and new teammates, we're going to give it
Speaker 1: a try. Okay, So speaking of a new teammates, sometimes
Speaker 1: dealing with people is the hardest thing when dealing with
Speaker 1: the business. So how do you run a business and
Speaker 1: how do you you keep communication flowing to where it's
Speaker 1: like a good working relationship. Yeah, so when we started
Speaker 1: our business, um, we were kind of friends, so it
Speaker 1: worked out. Tared and they were friends, so it kind
Speaker 1: of worked out. And and also working with our friends.
Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy. But maybe we are just like
Speaker 1: young enough and like, yeah, like eager enough to go
Speaker 1: for without really thinking about it. Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1: And I think like the great thing about Taran and
Speaker 1: I is like we pretty much just tell each other
Speaker 1: like what we're feeling, what we think, and we're pretty
Speaker 1: much always on the same page. So it works. And
Speaker 1: you're honest, Yeah, We're honest, Like if we were on
Speaker 1: the same page, I feel like it would be really hard.
Speaker 1: But we're pretty much always kind of on the same page,
Speaker 1: so it works, yes, yes, yes, And we have the
Speaker 1: same vision and ambition for our business, like we want
Speaker 1: to grow, we want to do more, and we always
Speaker 1: want to be the best at what we do. So
Speaker 1: we both have that mentality. Yeah. So I think that's
Speaker 1: super helpful. Yeah. I definitely think that's part of why
Speaker 1: it will naturally fall into roles within the leadership positions,
Speaker 1: like the job. Both naturally just have things that you gravitate.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yes, like paper when it comes to
Speaker 1: like paperworky things like I thrive in that. Like social
Speaker 1: media's terrible and like Taran like and she's great at it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she does, like all of our socials and she's great
Speaker 1: at it. Whereas like I would be like, here's an
Speaker 1: emoji for the caption. That's basically where it would That's
Speaker 1: how it would be if I had to do our socials. So,
Speaker 1: which is lash out in Nashville. Yes, follow them? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so my lashes make appearances on it sometimes. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we like to share. Yeah, those um socials, I would
Speaker 1: not do well there. So you are asked and conquer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's another key thing to having a great teammate too,
Speaker 1: being on the same page, having the same vision, not
Speaker 1: both of you all doing the same things, because I
Speaker 1: feel like that's when things get Like if you're going
Speaker 1: to partner up and have a teammate, then you both
Speaker 1: need to be bringing all you have, like splitting tasks,
Speaker 1: you know, and trusting that the other one is doing
Speaker 1: their job and trusting that you're doing yours because if
Speaker 1: it would just be such a failure, if you, oh,
Speaker 1: it would it would literally be emoji captions. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's just that we both thrive in specific
Speaker 1: areas of business. It works like we both just have
Speaker 1: sides that we enjoy more than others. So it's really easy.
Speaker 1: What happened when you guys were in the just like
Speaker 1: y'all were kicking ass, like your business was overflowing. It
Speaker 1: was so busy, like y'all are for sure one of
Speaker 1: the top lashes, like what do you call it? Lash
Speaker 1: place in Nashville, And then COVID hits and then everyone
Speaker 1: immediately probably stops coming to some extent, and I think
Speaker 1: you had to shut down for a while because you'll
Speaker 1: have it's like your hands touching someone's eyes and your
Speaker 1: mouths or like inches away from each other. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: had to shut down completely. What do you do when
Speaker 1: you just had a baby. Well, I was pregnant, Oh
Speaker 1: you had did you have code during the pandemic? I
Speaker 1: had him in October um, so we were already back
Speaker 1: at work by then, but I had found out I
Speaker 1: was pregnant basically almost a month to the day before
Speaker 1: we were forced to shut down. And I remember Taran
Speaker 1: and I were texting and it came out like, oh,
Speaker 1: you have to shut down for two weeks. The mayor
Speaker 1: came out and said you have to close for two week.
Speaker 1: Not such a businesses. Yeah, I remember us texting being like, okay,
Speaker 1: two weeks, Like let's get everyone in today that we
Speaker 1: can if their appointments were this coming week, and then
Speaker 1: maybe that'll last them the two weeks and they'll be
Speaker 1: back on their schedule. And then it just kept going
Speaker 1: and going and going. And what happens because you are
Speaker 1: bringing in a lot of income, and you're you and
Speaker 1: your husband both like very supportive of each other, and
Speaker 1: you'll both provide in hospitality, so they weren't open either.
Speaker 1: So what do you do? Y'all? Go from these very
Speaker 1: intense both of you all working and is this considered hospitality.
Speaker 1: It's like probably a version of that. Yeah, you're both
Speaker 1: people oriented businesses, you know, client oriented businesses, and now
Speaker 1: both of you are shut down and you're pregnant. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that terrifying. It was very terrifying, but it was
Speaker 1: also like, oh, okay, so this is why everybody always
Speaker 1: convinces you that you need to save money. It was
Speaker 1: one of those things. And it's like how our grandparents
Speaker 1: went through their great Depression and they're always worried it's
Speaker 1: going to hit. It always gonna hit again. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: then a lot of our clients were great and we're
Speaker 1: like can I buy gift cards? Can I do this?
Speaker 1: Like how can I help? Like that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: So that was really great to just knowing that like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we can't do our job, but we still have that
Speaker 1: support from the community. So I think that was really
Speaker 1: great too. Yeah, and then my husband's company was amazing
Speaker 1: and immediately got them jobs um that they could do
Speaker 1: from home doing telehealth. So their company like immediately was
Speaker 1: like okay, like we can't be in, but we're gonna
Speaker 1: get you this so that you have an income. So
Speaker 1: I mean it kind of just as soon as it
Speaker 1: didn't work, it worked again. So so what is your
Speaker 1: takeaway about life and the flow of life? Because you
Speaker 1: started starting at a young age, like your parents divorcing,
Speaker 1: you finding your own way, learning to hustle, learning that
Speaker 1: things always are going to move and shake, you're not
Speaker 1: used to like it's it's not like you're expecting things
Speaker 1: to stay the same all the time. Like you know
Speaker 1: how to pivot, you know how to make it work,
Speaker 1: you know how to try things like that's been your
Speaker 1: whole life. But I don't know if it had it
Speaker 1: ever hit as hard as like when the pandemic hit,
Speaker 1: or is it just like you're kind of you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can navigate this, I can do this. I don't
Speaker 1: think it has ever hit as hard as that because
Speaker 1: my mindset was always okay, I'm going to try this.
Speaker 1: But I can just work a little harder and make
Speaker 1: up for me trying that if it doesn't work. So
Speaker 1: when the pandemic hit and somebody's actually telling you like, oh,
Speaker 1: you can't work, can't work, like you just can't because
Speaker 1: you always like, okay, let me find another way to work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me find another way. So I think that was
Speaker 1: like the biggest wall that I really had to like
Speaker 1: navigate around, and it was like, okay, so I can't
Speaker 1: do that, Like what can I do? What did you
Speaker 1: come up with? Well, to be honest, I kind of
Speaker 1: just basked and being pregnant on the couch while my
Speaker 1: husband was just upstairs working away to telehealth because I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: we can make that work. Like we have this much
Speaker 1: savings and he's working and our insurance is covered, which
Speaker 1: is was my main concern, and we're all right. I
Speaker 1: can still get my Chick fil at every day. Oh,
Speaker 1: Chick fil A, the potatoes. That's how you thrive in pregnancy.
Speaker 1: I'm convinced. But um, what did you learn in that
Speaker 1: downtime that because you've never let yourself probably have that
Speaker 1: I found on I haven't, and even since then, I
Speaker 1: really haven't. I mean I went back to work so
Speaker 1: soon after having cod that I feel like that downtime
Speaker 1: was just kind of almost like a blessing for me
Speaker 1: as well as it was like a stressful situation, because
Speaker 1: I feel like it allowed my body to do what
Speaker 1: it needed to do to get coahere, and with being
Speaker 1: so sick, it almost was just like but you don't
Speaker 1: have to do anything today. There's nothing for you to
Speaker 1: do today, so just relax, like and you could give
Speaker 1: yourself permission. I could give myself permission to do it
Speaker 1: because somebody was actually telling me I couldn't, which is
Speaker 1: pretty much what it takes. So, um, just having that
Speaker 1: downtime where I finally said, okay, well this is what
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I'm just going to chill. It's a big job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was good. It was good for me. I think, Um,
Speaker 1: it was you know, stressful, but also at the same time,
Speaker 1: I think I just needed something like that where it
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, relax, do your thing. You don't have
Speaker 1: to get up and be anywhere today. It's fine. What
Speaker 1: would you tell women who are in the middle of indometriosis,
Speaker 1: who are in the middle of their journey and it's
Speaker 1: not they're getting bad news. They're in the middle of
Speaker 1: the bad news with waiting for their baby. They're in
Speaker 1: the middle of feeling hopeless. Like, what do you want
Speaker 1: to tell who are dying to become a mother and
Speaker 1: it's not happening and it feels like it never will.
Speaker 1: What do you want to tell those women? Because you
Speaker 1: have been there? Yeah, I've definitely been there, and I
Speaker 1: don't think there's anything I can say to help make
Speaker 1: it better, but just to know that how it's intended
Speaker 1: to be, it eventually will be. And the sooner you
Speaker 1: let go of what you think your life has to
Speaker 1: look like, the more peace you're going to find with yourself.
Speaker 1: Like you know, no matter how you're a parent, you're
Speaker 1: still a parent, So you have a lot of options.
Speaker 1: And I think learning to say, like, Okay, I'm going
Speaker 1: to pivot this direction and that's still going to make
Speaker 1: me a parent. I'm still going to be a mom,
Speaker 1: still going to be a dad. Um, it just looks
Speaker 1: a little different than what you thought than what you thought,
Speaker 1: and I think that and that's the destination point, right, Like, yes,
Speaker 1: women dream of being pregnant and having a baby, but
Speaker 1: the end goal for you is just to be the
Speaker 1: parent and you know, love something more than you love yourself.
Speaker 1: So I think as long as you're okay with realizing
Speaker 1: like it doesn't matter how I get there, I'm going
Speaker 1: to get there. Um, that's the biggest part. And when
Speaker 1: you really start to let go and just like find
Speaker 1: your peace and just your happiness, I think your body
Speaker 1: starts to function like you know, you start to just
Speaker 1: let go of all the toxicity of you know, oh,
Speaker 1: this isn't gonna work. It's you know, because I feel
Speaker 1: like you also draw in, you know, based on your mindset,
Speaker 1: a lot of you know what you're getting, So like,
Speaker 1: if you can, just as hard as it is to
Speaker 1: stay positive, do the things that make you happy in
Speaker 1: a day, you know, only think about the things that
Speaker 1: make you happy and continue to dream about what you want. Um,
Speaker 1: I love that I'm telling you to dream about it,
Speaker 1: continue to dream about and continue to know that will
Speaker 1: it will come in some way. It's going to come
Speaker 1: to you. So don't stop dreaming about it. Don't like
Speaker 1: your experience self experience the happiness of being like, oh
Speaker 1: for me, this is going to happen one day. And
Speaker 1: even if you don't have a pregnancy and have it
Speaker 1: that way and it's your adoption, if you can let
Speaker 1: go like you're saying, it will flow into your life.
Speaker 1: Like the sit level the negativity, Just focus on the
Speaker 1: positive and that's what you're going to draw to yourself.
Speaker 1: You're going to draw in the positive vibes, positive thoughts,
Speaker 1: and that in itself is going to put you in
Speaker 1: so much of a better place mentally because the suck,
Speaker 1: it really sucks. And also like if you give it
Speaker 1: everything you got and try and keep moving forward and
Speaker 1: positive and life takes you on a pivot or takes
Speaker 1: you down a different road, then if you've done everything
Speaker 1: that you know how to do, then that was the
Speaker 1: road that was meant for you. And these are the
Speaker 1: blessings that are meant for you. And this was like
Speaker 1: how you were supposed to have your life unfold, and
Speaker 1: it's different than maybe what someone else's is, Like that
Speaker 1: was your journey and you're going to be blessed by
Speaker 1: that journey, right, because how boring would it be if
Speaker 1: everybody was on the same one all the time? God?
Speaker 1: And like the most interesting story, yes, especially like I
Speaker 1: know this from interviewing people in my podcast. Every person
Speaker 1: I interview on my podcast has a pivoting story because
Speaker 1: no one just like wakes up and connects the dots
Speaker 1: in a straight line and get in from A to
Speaker 1: Z and there's no turmoil, there's no pain, there's no roadblocks,
Speaker 1: there's no because how does anything ever feels so great
Speaker 1: if you don't experience anything so bad? And the sooner
Speaker 1: you stopped thinking that things are supposed to just always
Speaker 1: be how you dreamed them, like know that your dreams
Speaker 1: will come true, but like it's going to come in
Speaker 1: its own way, its own route. It's going to get
Speaker 1: to you in its own way, and you know, just
Speaker 1: know that it is coming. It just it's going to
Speaker 1: be in its own, its own way. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: it's important because so then one more topic on you
Speaker 1: talk to you about, because you you hit so many
Speaker 1: important topics that women are navigating. You are a working
Speaker 1: mother and you have been a working mother since Ka
Speaker 1: has been here. Like you said, you went back to
Speaker 1: work quickly. Like I remember I was getting my lashes
Speaker 1: done with you and co it was like three weeks
Speaker 1: old or something or six weeks. I don't know how
Speaker 1: it was weeks he was in the weeks week I
Speaker 1: came back to work, I think it was like eight
Speaker 1: days after I had him. Yeah, so I wasn't that
Speaker 1: And like how you decided how you wanted to work
Speaker 1: having him, And because I feel like so many mothers,
Speaker 1: there's so much pressure because it's like you want you
Speaker 1: are a woman who has a capability, who was strong,
Speaker 1: who has started businesses, who was capable to run them in.
Speaker 1: But then all of a sudden you have a baby
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh my gosh, am I supposed to
Speaker 1: quit everything? Or like there's all of these giants, just
Speaker 1: like potholes that we have to navigate as working women. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there are so many mothers, yes, and there are so
Speaker 1: many judgments. Everyone has so many judgments. Um. But I
Speaker 1: think partially the pandemic kind of forced my hand into
Speaker 1: coming back to work because it was like, Okay, well
Speaker 1: I kind of layed around for a couple of months,
Speaker 1: I can't really do that much longer. And then also
Speaker 1: knowing that I didn't want to give up my business completely.
Speaker 1: You work too hard for ya. I still want to
Speaker 1: do it, and that's how I'm going to give my
Speaker 1: son the life that I want him to have. So
Speaker 1: I think it was just kind of like I always
Speaker 1: knew that I was going to go back. Um, that
Speaker 1: was never a question, But it's just recently he's almost
Speaker 1: a year old now, and I'm just to the point
Speaker 1: where I'm like, Okay, I need a better balance, I
Speaker 1: need to be home more. Um. And you were lucky though,
Speaker 1: because your husband worked nights and you work days, so
Speaker 1: Tanner was able to stay with them in the day,
Speaker 1: you know, right, But then did you ever feel jealous
Speaker 1: that you aren't getting to have the day? So jealous?
Speaker 1: So jealous? It was like really weird for me at
Speaker 1: the beginning because it's like like you get that guilt
Speaker 1: where it's like he's just gonna And then obviously when
Speaker 1: they start talking, Dad as like one of the first
Speaker 1: things they say. But in my head, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: feel like that scene from Friends keeps saying data, and
Speaker 1: I feel like that scene from Friends when Ross is
Speaker 1: like at least a secondary caregiver, like say something, that's
Speaker 1: how I felt, and I was just like waiting for
Speaker 1: the moment finally says Mama. But it's like you feel
Speaker 1: I felt so bad one that I wasn't with him,
Speaker 1: but two that I was like, is he going to
Speaker 1: like love me as much as he loves his dad
Speaker 1: because his dad gets like the awake time, like the
Speaker 1: good time. But I think it's good now and we're
Speaker 1: finally finding that balance where I'm like, Okay, I'm actually
Speaker 1: gonna be home more, I'm going to work. And that's
Speaker 1: something that you've been working on, is because you all
Speaker 1: came back to full capacity with all your clients and
Speaker 1: more like back to how you were a pre pandemic
Speaker 1: and it took you out of building back and now
Speaker 1: you're back, which is amazing. But now you're realizing that
Speaker 1: you want to find a little balance and also I
Speaker 1: want I think women need to know that too, like
Speaker 1: you can always adjust, like and listen to your intuition again,
Speaker 1: like how you are guided by your gut, Like I'm
Speaker 1: sure you're gut is telling you I want a different balance. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just Um, we took a trip to Hawaii with him,
Speaker 1: and it was so nice to have ten uninterrupted days
Speaker 1: with him that it was like, Okay, when we go home,
Speaker 1: I can only work these days because I still need
Speaker 1: days like that where it's just an uninterrupted time with
Speaker 1: him and my husband because we never get to do
Speaker 1: anything during the day. Um. So it's one of those
Speaker 1: things I'm like, Okay, I have to do this because
Speaker 1: I have a family and where my priorities lie. It's
Speaker 1: just a little different now, and I want to see
Speaker 1: these fun moments with him now that he's like mobile
Speaker 1: and like starting to talk and crawl and all those things,
Speaker 1: like I don't want to miss those. So it's also
Speaker 1: rolling with the punches and being like, Okay, I need
Speaker 1: to adjust and I can adjust, and sometimes that involves
Speaker 1: not working as much and maybe taking a little bit
Speaker 1: of like yeah, you know, monetary cut here and there.
Speaker 1: But it's like that's where priorities come in. It's like
Speaker 1: you and that's where I feel like you have to
Speaker 1: say so and check with your intuition and your inner
Speaker 1: guidance system, because your guidance system is telling you what
Speaker 1: you need. It's like one of those things where it's like, okay, actually,
Speaker 1: like this is fine. I'm willing to do this to
Speaker 1: get work. Your life still is going to flow. It's
Speaker 1: still gonna flow. We're still gonna be doing the same things.
Speaker 1: It's just now I'm gonna get to spend a little
Speaker 1: extra time with him and Tanner and kind of do
Speaker 1: what we want to do that normal people would do
Speaker 1: on the weekends when they're off. Because you work, work weekend.
Speaker 1: Do you work every day? You do? Take Sunday off,
Speaker 1: We take Sundays off. We're close on Sundays. But Danielle
Speaker 1: works from like seven till seven sometimes, like you work
Speaker 1: so hard and all with your hands, I'm like, are
Speaker 1: you gonna do you have do stretches for your fingers.
Speaker 1: I think in the beginning it was weird, but then
Speaker 1: it's like they're almost just like immune to it. Cramp
Speaker 1: what's going on because you're like over someone's eyes, moving
Speaker 1: the tiniest little Yeah, they're worn in now their their
Speaker 1: old gloves, they're and in. They just know what it is.
Speaker 1: You have to think about the livelihood of your hands
Speaker 1: with everything you do. Yeah, it was one of those
Speaker 1: weird things where it's like you're doing insurance and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I need to insure my hands because that is my life,
Speaker 1: everything that I do with my hands. So is that
Speaker 1: a thing to be they do they insure body parts?
Speaker 1: I mean I think like Taylor Swift something, yeah, like
Speaker 1: a million dollars. Yeah, I think other celebrities have, you know,
Speaker 1: ensure other parts of their bodies. I mean whatever, you whatever,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, you have to ensure it. So that
Speaker 1: is one of those things where it's like, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is weird. So what's your advice to working mothers who
Speaker 1: because we have a lot of great advice for people
Speaker 1: in the thick of it, what is your advice to
Speaker 1: someone who has a kid or kids and they're working
Speaker 1: and they need to work to provide for their families.
Speaker 1: And also you want to be that example of where
Speaker 1: you you are hard workers as a female and like
Speaker 1: you're capable to you know. And I never want to
Speaker 1: like put off the vibe that like I have it
Speaker 1: all figured out, so do not. Um, but I think too,
Speaker 1: it's just trusting your gut. If something feels like you're
Speaker 1: doing it too much or you're missing too much, you
Speaker 1: probably are. So it doesn't lie. Yeah, it doesn't lie
Speaker 1: to you. Um. If you feel like you're missing something,
Speaker 1: find a way to to pivot and make that happen,
Speaker 1: even if it's just like a couple of extra hours
Speaker 1: a week. Um, make the effort into finding that a
Speaker 1: couple extra hours. Um, you know, to make sure you're
Speaker 1: getting that time and kind of balancing everything. And take
Speaker 1: the time for yourself too. Um. It's important. It's so
Speaker 1: easy to put yourself on the back burner. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: very easy to just be like, oh, I don't have
Speaker 1: time for that for myself. Um, but make sure you're
Speaker 1: taking a little bit of time, even if it's just
Speaker 1: like once or twice a month, Just take a little
Speaker 1: time for yourself and make sure that you are taking
Speaker 1: care of you too, because you can't take care of
Speaker 1: anyone else if you're not taking care of So it's
Speaker 1: so true. Yeah, but definitely it's just even if it's
Speaker 1: finding an extra hour a week to spend that time,
Speaker 1: And if that's what you're feeling, or if you feel
Speaker 1: like you want to work more, then do it. Like,
Speaker 1: don't feel guilty, don't listen to somebody tell you how
Speaker 1: your idea of being a parent needs to go. Um,
Speaker 1: whatever you feel like it's right, probably is. And we
Speaker 1: all have a different internal guidances. We're doing us a
Speaker 1: different way to be, so, like we can't sit around
Speaker 1: a past judgment on everyone because they're doing stuff so
Speaker 1: different than me. Like I hear you talk about all
Speaker 1: the stuff you're going on, and myself, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: that's amazing, But like I don't have it in me
Speaker 1: to like have all these plates in the air like
Speaker 1: you do. But like that's your guidances. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: what works, you know, Yeah, that's just how that moment
Speaker 1: in time is going for myself, and I'm sure other
Speaker 1: people have even more than me, exactly, and that works.
Speaker 1: And so it's like everyone knows when they need to
Speaker 1: add a plate, take a plate off, take a step back,
Speaker 1: take a step forward. Just because on doesn't mean you
Speaker 1: can't take it off. Just stay in tune with your
Speaker 1: dance and you yes, you're in charge. You do what
Speaker 1: you need to do to make yourself feel like you're imbalance.
Speaker 1: Because the last really big life question, you've obviously been
Speaker 1: with your husband Tanner for like ever for like since
Speaker 1: your tin how do you what is your tip too?
Speaker 1: People who want to have a long lasting relationship that
Speaker 1: can withstand the test of time. I think it's important
Speaker 1: to really not only like love and have your spouse
Speaker 1: as your spouse, but like be their friend. Like also
Speaker 1: like you have to be friends and like you have
Speaker 1: to want to spend that time with them. Whereas like
Speaker 1: you know, some people that I my clients are talking about,
Speaker 1: oh I can't wait to get away from my husband
Speaker 1: today to go do this or go do that, and
Speaker 1: it's like, maybe just go do it with my husband.
Speaker 1: So it's like I want to take him like everywhere
Speaker 1: with me. I want to do everything with him, and
Speaker 1: it's like if I get time off, it's like I
Speaker 1: just want to be with him and do something. So
Speaker 1: for us, it's really just like, um, he's my best
Speaker 1: friend and I want to do everything with him all
Speaker 1: the time. So I think it's kind of just important
Speaker 1: to know, like how your relationship thrives if it's you
Speaker 1: need some time for you cool. Once again, this goes
Speaker 1: back to like the knowing yourself maybe your room, Whereas
Speaker 1: like him, I'm like, no, you have to come with me,
Speaker 1: like you have to do. Some people they need the
Speaker 1: time part and knowing that. Yeah, like I'm never sick
Speaker 1: of him, like I always want to spend that extra
Speaker 1: time with him. So I think that's funny. He's hilarious.
Speaker 1: Funny goes a long way. Funny goes a really long way.
Speaker 1: I gotta have some humor. Yeah, yeah, he is hilarious.
Speaker 1: And it's like even if he makes me mad, like
Speaker 1: two seconds later he's doing something to make me laugh
Speaker 1: so that I'm no longer mad. Oh that's good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wish I had that, but I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: have that either. I appreciate that, Yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Whereas like I'm like, I'm going to make him mad
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna stand there like I didn't do
Speaker 1: it and wait for him to crack the joke. Because
Speaker 1: I'm like, how great that he doesn't like crack the
Speaker 1: anger back, because he would just be fighting all this
Speaker 1: because you would hold your anger and then he would
Speaker 1: hold his, and then you'll be He would probably say
Speaker 1: my most stubborn or my like worst trays that I'm stubborn,
Speaker 1: and it's true, but it works. He's so funny. He's
Speaker 1: so funny, and he's willing to give way more than
Speaker 1: I am. He's not a stubborn say look, that's knowing
Speaker 1: your strengths and weak is in a marriage and leaning
Speaker 1: into what works for you exactly. He knows I'm stubborn,
Speaker 1: so and he's not mad at you for it. No,
Speaker 1: but I think he is a little salty that I
Speaker 1: gave it to our kid because he seems just as stubborn. So, um,
Speaker 1: I don't know how that's going to go, but well,
Speaker 1: maybe co is gonna put it on you. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a taste of your own medicine. Be
Speaker 1: my karma. It's going to be your car stubborn for
Speaker 1: all of these years putting it on Tanner and then
Speaker 1: Tanners like, karma, look, look look at you doing this again.
Speaker 1: You got it. I'm like, I guess I have to huh,
Speaker 1: so parent head man, it really will teach you everything
Speaker 1: you never thought you wanted to know. It really does, man,
Speaker 1: it really does. Yeah. But as far as relationships, I
Speaker 1: think for us, our biggest thing is that, like I
Speaker 1: just always want to be around him, So whether he
Speaker 1: wants to be around me or not, we just have
Speaker 1: that time where it's like, oh, okay, over that you
Speaker 1: will love your wagon hitched to mind. Now you're good,
Speaker 1: You're stuck on it. So I think that that's just
Speaker 1: the biggest thing for us, and the fact that he's
Speaker 1: patient with every little thing I want to do. Like God,
Speaker 1: he's a saint. He really is puts up with a lot,
Speaker 1: Like you want to go to home good, It's like
Speaker 1: after we ran fifty other errands, there we are. He
Speaker 1: just likes to do stuff grognly maybe, but but it's
Speaker 1: always cracking a joke at the end. He does it
Speaker 1: like you know, we're good. I love that. I've loved
Speaker 1: chatting with you. This has been so fun and to
Speaker 1: do like face to face convo has been really fun. Um.
Speaker 1: I always wrap up with leave your light, and it's basically,
Speaker 1: what do you want people to know? Very open ended,
Speaker 1: whatever comes to mind. I just think of myself. I
Speaker 1: would probably say that whatever you want to do, you
Speaker 1: probably can, so you might as well try it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Reach Tony Robbins in the house. Actually I write a
Speaker 1: book too, Yes, yes, thank you so much for joining me. Everyone.
Speaker 1: Check out lash Out Nashville. Danielle Bile in the house. Okay,
Speaker 1: now we're gonna do lashes. Bye.