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Speaker 5: You got more than that in your closet. That was

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Speaker 4: That was Joe joint good to see see the married man.

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Speaker 1: Miss Jodan's two games and he got married. But he's like,

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Speaker 9: I did, I did and now I'm back and plugged

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Speaker 9: in good. I'm ready.

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Speaker 5: All right, you know what to listen a little bit

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Speaker 5: of listen Joe, Joe, Joe with the Sandals.

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Speaker 1: You know he he go to Heatonism. Though you go heating,

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Speaker 1: didn't go eating.

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Speaker 9: You keep you keep asking about it, but I didn't

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Speaker 9: go way. I didn't get that time either.

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Speaker 4: A problem with sandals. And I've been there just and

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Speaker 4: I'm not an alcohol I don't drink alcohol. But the

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Speaker 4: little cups, I'm like, man, you can't get give you this.

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Speaker 9: We just like four of them those poores were light.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like they were like how many poors did you get? Though?

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Speaker 9: You know the limit does not exist.

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Speaker 4: But they just give you that little like a little

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Speaker 4: tasted a little at the Saint we go to like

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Speaker 4: the Sam Club, a costco a little taste and that's

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Speaker 4: like what they give you. I need more more. But anyway,

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Speaker 4: congratulations the author j J. T is back. John Taylor.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad, glad he just guy's are sourcing. Let you

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Speaker 4: come back. So good to see it, good to see it.

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Speaker 6: Just keep a good man.

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Speaker 5: He's every every Wednesday, sir, unless he has another.

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Speaker 4: In the right. Okay, all right, let's just start with you, sir.

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Speaker 6: Let's see it.

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Speaker 4: He wrote something here, Brandon Cooks is happy to be back,

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Speaker 4: so going up against the commanders the return of mister Cooks. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: thoughts in locker room today.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, he's back. Designated him for return. We'll see

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Speaker 9: if he actually gets clear Before watching him, but I

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Speaker 9: thought the interesting thing he talked about was not only

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Speaker 9: he said he doesn't see a lot of joy on

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Speaker 9: this team, which is pretty obvious. And he's like, I'm

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Speaker 9: trying to make a spark to the locker room, a

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Speaker 9: I thought I was interested to hear him saying like, yeah,

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Speaker 9: it's not it hasn't been good. You know, five game

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Speaker 9: losing streets are tough, right, and it sure looks like that.

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Speaker 9: So he's trying to bring a spark on the field

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Speaker 4: How do you do that for him? Yeah?

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Speaker 9: For winning is one?

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Speaker 4: Well, just joy in the room? Just how do you

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Speaker 9: and that's something we haven't seen her in a while.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's also my perspective because as a veteran, he

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Speaker 5: may not be joyful right now, but next year ain't

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Speaker 5: talking about career, you know, and so maximize these opportunities.

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Speaker 5: And we've talked about the Zach Martin, you know, and

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Speaker 5: everybody's talking about you know, this could bear last year,

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Speaker 5: maybe shut them down. If this is the last year

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Speaker 5: he plays, he don't want to be shut down.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're a young man.

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Speaker 5: This is the game you'd love and you've been playing

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Speaker 5: for law You want to be able to play it

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Speaker 5: as long as you can while you can't. And you

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Speaker 5: got to appreciate these moments. And I know it's a

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Speaker 8: But but that's all perspective because much like you said,

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Speaker 8: because you're playing professional football for a career, I mean

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Speaker 8: in the big picture, you you know, you've hit the

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Speaker 8: lot up and so yeah, it's a raggedy time and

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Speaker 8: you got a raggedy team, and you ain't winning, and

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Speaker 8: you're not gonna win more than three four games this year,

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Speaker 8: maybe five, but the one three, sir. That's why I

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Speaker 8: said maybe maybe they'll get one or two more.

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Speaker 6: Maybe, But you know it's the holiday season. You can

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Speaker 6: find a reason to be thankful pretty easily.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know I was in the locker room

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Speaker 5: as well, and uh, lucky you when all the ones

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Speaker 1: But and that's the whole another story, another conversation.

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Speaker 5: But talk to de Marcus Lawrence and uh, he's not

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Speaker 5: ready to come back.

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Speaker 1: He was going to see the doctor.

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Speaker 5: But one thing you said, you know, while y'all talking

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Speaker 5: about Zach Martin retiring, that ain't on his agenda.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 5: And he's not gonna go out like this injured, and uh,

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Speaker 5: he will be back next year.

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Speaker 1: The question is where. But he plans on playing next year.

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Speaker 9: Regassington, everyone else is.

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Speaker 1: Doing it.

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Speaker 8: Right, Like, I don't expect him to see him anymore

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Speaker 8: this year. The team is out of it, you know,

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Speaker 8: get your foot right. There's no need to come back

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Speaker 8: and take a chance on aggravating it before you go

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Speaker 8: in and get that potential free agency.

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Speaker 1: And you're talking about a guy that has been.

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Speaker 5: I can't think of the right word, but he knows

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Speaker 5: when he got his money, Like, I ain't gonna do

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Speaker 5: the surgeon unless you pay me, right, Okay. So he

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Speaker 5: is not going to sabotage his future to play in

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Speaker 5: a meanless game because watching them in the season finale.

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Speaker 6: Okay, that's what I mean.

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Speaker 8: I don't expect to see him in a play anymore

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Speaker 6: It doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a savvy veteran, So at this point in time,

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Speaker 4: let's just have an honest conversation about should he be

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Speaker 9: I still see value in it in the right money,

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Speaker 6: What's the right money?

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Speaker 1: Like I said, that's that's the problem, because what's the

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Speaker 5: But the cowboy right, what's the right money for Tank

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Speaker 5: is gonna be a whole different conversation.

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Speaker 1: But you know, this was a fluke foot injury.

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Speaker 5: You know, well, this is not something that you know

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Speaker 5: because Jorge Lewis had the similar injury and he's been

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Speaker 1: What he does.

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Speaker 5: He still does the high level, you know, and he

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Speaker 5: can still be part of a solution. You know, depends

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Speaker 5: how much it cost. Certainly you have some young guys

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Speaker 5: you want to play. I don't know anybody has shown

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Speaker 5: you that can replace what he does. And the sad

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Speaker 5: part is the guy who particularly was going to be

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Speaker 5: able to do that, Marshawn Neland has been hurt, you know,

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Speaker 5: the rookie, and we already had a chance to see him.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I think there's value in bringing them back.

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Speaker 8: And depends on your roster construct like are you a

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Speaker 8: real contender next year?

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Speaker 5: I think as long as long as you have a

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Speaker 5: but you're particilarly going to pay Michael Parsons and this

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Speaker 5: short went though, as long as that is your quarterback,

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Speaker 5: you have to look at yourself as a contender. You

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Speaker 5: shouldn't be looking at yourself as a rebuilding team with

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Speaker 5: that type of money you're paying a quarterback because it

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Speaker 5: makes no system be paying a quarterback that type of

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Speaker 6: Question is how old is Tank? Is he thirty? Thirty thirty?

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Speaker 9: He's thirty?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's He and Zac Martin the oldest longest tenured Cowboys,

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Speaker 5: So he's he's well, he's dak Is thirty one, So

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Speaker 1: He's over that.

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Speaker 5: So I mean, and it's funny like he probably, It's

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Speaker 5: not like we don't have the resources to find out.

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Speaker 6: We bet he's thirty thirty?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, thirty two.

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Speaker 8: I love Tank, but no, he ain't get no contract

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Speaker 8: for me. And you don't pay free agents in their

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Speaker 8: thirties on bad teams.

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Speaker 4: So that you're hoping Sam Williams is healthy and ready

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Speaker 4: to go, not.

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Speaker 5: A bad They don't see themselves as a bad team.

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Speaker 5: That's your opinion.

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Speaker 6: No, the records say they're a bad team.

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Speaker 5: Well, they probably because I mean, I'm just saying, as

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Speaker 5: you're constructing this team, you're trying to win. I'm not

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Speaker 5: looking at myself. We a bad team. So I'm not

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Speaker 8: I'm not paying nobody who's thirty two, who get three

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Speaker 9: I also don't know what his market's gonna be, to

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Speaker 9: be honest with you, because he's not an edge, like

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Speaker 9: a true edge pass rushing guy that's gonna listen a

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Speaker 9: lot of money in the market. I think that there's

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Speaker 9: a way that the market.

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Speaker 1: Is getting lost.

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Speaker 5: And because for loss of money you're gonna put, you're

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Speaker 5: gonna play. Okay, you would rather him than you got

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Speaker 5: what's lost his ear. Okay, you're gonna you're gonna have

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Speaker 5: takes on your team. He's probably gonna be a starter,

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Speaker 5: and it's not about the sex and what he does

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Speaker 5: I would think about bringing it back for sure. I

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Speaker 5: I mean I look at and and we have different mindsets.

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Speaker 5: Because I look at the guy in Miami. Uh uh,

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Speaker 5: the big defence class Campbell.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to capul design class. Haven't been in the

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Speaker 8: It's a young man's game. It's not the old man's game. Okay,

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Speaker 8: you can frown, but it's a young man's game. Older

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Speaker 5: And yes, you're you're gonna build their team a young

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Speaker 1: You can call you what you want to call it.

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Speaker 5: But but where were they in twenty fifteen and they

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Speaker 6: I think you misunderstand.

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Speaker 8: Okay, whatever you paid the Marcus Lawrence, why don't I

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Speaker 6: That's what I mean.

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Speaker 8: Why donna get dawns Armstrong from somebody correct to do that?

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Speaker 4: That's right, who's young.

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Speaker 5: But but but I guess what I'm saying is this,

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Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying. Is not a blanket. No, you

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Speaker 6: No, he could come in my price, but my price

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Speaker 1: That's it. May not listen.

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Speaker 9: Market, you know what.

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Speaker 6: You know what he can do.

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Speaker 8: And he can on a championship caliber team. He's a

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Speaker 9: Yes, they're coming off an injury. To your point, I

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Speaker 5: Gonna be lowed it so and I hear you made insulted.

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Speaker 5: But like I said, a long time, begouse. I've been

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Speaker 5: this stank a long time, like you've been a stank

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Speaker 5: a long time. You can't get these jobs on the street.

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Speaker 5: Make that money. As long as you can make that money,

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Speaker 5: that's insulting when you've been making twelve and thirteen million,

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Speaker 5: but you can't get that on the street. It's something

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Speaker 1: You got got this?

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Speaker 2: It's not that didn't not that red they read.

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Speaker 9: But they're from Maryland.

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Speaker 5: I'm a down nine five too, you know what. I'm

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Speaker 5: a down nine five to John? You think nine five two?

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Speaker 5: You got red and gold on today?

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Speaker 6: Got enough to say, Grace got now, Joe, you don't

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Speaker 9: Know about nine five two?

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Speaker 1: So so that's Jared's extension back of Valen Ranch. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't know that when the players, Yeah, well you

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Speaker 5: But when the players want to go over the coaches head.

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Speaker 5: They died nine five to two on the house. You

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Speaker 6: That's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: Get nine seven two five five six?

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Speaker 9: So who do I die when I'm trying to go

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Speaker 4: I can't. It doesn't exist. Such a hater, bro, you

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Speaker 5: Was not me as you John, I saw it that day,

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Speaker 4: Trying to act like he cleaned. Okay, this is anyway?

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Speaker 1: Can we get back to the Cowboys locker room?

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Speaker 9: The Cowboys?

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Speaker 4: I tried, but you're the one jumping on the top

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Speaker 4: Yes? How how long was it gonna take? You know,

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Speaker 9: I mean, he says he's not trying to get fined.

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I'm the Michael Parsons whisper right

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Speaker 1: I talked to Michael.

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Speaker 9: Oh, and I saw Michael today.

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Speaker 5: When's the podcast walking out of the crocker, and we

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Speaker 5: I talked to the Cowboys media. You know what's funny

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Speaker 5: Mike is gonna be fine if he don't talk tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: But not just Michael, because he ain't the only one.

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Speaker 1: He's the one that got the name.

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Speaker 4: You got the list.

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Speaker 1: We got list.

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Speaker 6: Oh now that's some Cavin walking.

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Speaker 4: We got the list. Okay, so Calvin got helped.

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Speaker 6: We got we got and I'm like, we're not gonna.

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Speaker 5: Twenty five thousand. We're we're not gonna. It's the NFL

451
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Speaker 5: find It's not all fine.

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Speaker 6: No, no, that was gonna that was my next name.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, contract this was not just a uh and so

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Speaker 5: I was like, we're just not gonna pick on my

455
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Speaker 5: because he is, uh, the squeaky wheel, so to speak.

456
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Speaker 5: You know, there are a lot of guys who don't

457
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Speaker 5: talk on a regular basis, who Trevon Diggs, Marzie Smiths,

458
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Speaker 5: Donovan Wilson, Lee Cooker and to that point, Hey, Maligga

459
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Speaker 5: Cooker is coming out the coming in.

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Speaker 1: So Meliga came and talked today. But it's not just

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Speaker 1: Michael who hasn't talked. Uh.

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Speaker 5: But getting back to Michael, I did talk to after

463
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Speaker 5: we left the locker room. He said he will be

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Speaker 5: from Center tomorrow, so he will be fun Center. He's

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Speaker 5: a boy and the fine he will be from Cener.

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Speaker 4: The marks are you and he when he did do

467
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Speaker 4: the tweet to Clarence, it was Marshawn Lynch.

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Speaker 1: I'm here, so I don't get fine. Here's what you know.

469
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Speaker 1: But but you know, he can't.

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Speaker 5: Like I was trying to tell people, you know, yes

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Speaker 5: they were cool and as cute as over here, because

472
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Speaker 5: he was just.

473
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Speaker 1: Laughing about it.

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Speaker 5: And but as I've been telling people, Marshawn does not

475
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Speaker 5: like talking period. Of course you can't tell that now.

476
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Speaker 5: His career so funny, which is so funny to me

477
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Speaker 5: because I've seen so many players be like this, I'm

478
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Speaker 5: not talking to the media.

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Speaker 6: I don't like the meetia, and they run to get

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Speaker 6: to the media, as the creator run to get to

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Speaker 6: the meeting.

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Speaker 1: You can't stop him from talking.

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Speaker 5: But Michael likes to talk, which is why he has

484
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Speaker 5: a podcast, and which is actually why he got in trouble.

485
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Speaker 1: So he may and he's all that mad. He's laughing and.

486
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Speaker 5: Joking and starting the tweeting back at me, and and

487
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Speaker 5: which is again why he got in trouble the first place.

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Speaker 1: But soon as you get in and.

489
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Speaker 5: Started talking, as soon as you wind him up, he

490
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Speaker 5: might start with him here get just get fine. But

491
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Speaker 5: then he gonna pontificate, as Michael does, which is why

492
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Speaker 5: he was on his podcast yesterday talking about we're a

493
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Speaker 5: good team even though you're three and seven and lost

494
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Speaker 5: five straight game. He was also on this podcast making

495
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Speaker 5: fun of doctor Schultz. You know, Doctor Shuts came out

496
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Speaker 5: yesterday with a big tweeted about coffee and talking about

497
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Speaker 5: Texas on the best team and everything. So he and

498
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Speaker 5: he and what you did not tweet back at at

499
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Speaker 5: Doctor Suez, so so you really didn't like them to

500
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Speaker 5: or something. So he and Diggs were on that podcast

501
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 5: laughing about that, talking about it'd.

502
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Speaker 1: Be different too, mixing did it. This dude didn't even

503
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Speaker 1: do thishing in the game, trying to talk to trash.

504
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Speaker 6: That's how little respect people half of you these days.

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Speaker 1: Right right. It was funny to me because I was

506
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Speaker 1: saying to Georgiana game you weren't there.

507
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Speaker 5: I was talking to my air Joe, my visible jurch

508
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Speaker 5: in the locker because I talked during the game.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys know that.

510
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Speaker 4: We can hear it.

511
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Speaker 5: The doctor Suer hear that doctor Sister called the pass

512
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Speaker 5: and about ten cowboys hit him.

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Speaker 4: All night.

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Speaker 5: Now what you said about the locker room, They gave

515
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Speaker 5: him some Yeah, they gave him the business.

516
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Speaker 1: But yeah, Michael, Michael said he's gonna talk tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: So the thing with Dalton Shows, I'm trying to understand.

518
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Speaker 4: They offered you a deal and you turned it down.

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Speaker 8: Check this out, man Dunkin Shows was the whiniest dude

520
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Speaker 8: and the most softest mentally dude for Cats who never

521
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Speaker 8: really had a nice year. But he wasn't no difference

522
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Speaker 8: maker yet, I don't know. He carried himself with the

523
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Speaker 8: arrogance that he didn't deserve to play on the feed.

524
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Speaker 8: For the arrogance, I didn't want to go there.

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Speaker 6: That's true.

526
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Speaker 4: Organ guy.

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Speaker 6: You can't even say that because it's it's your biast.

528
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Speaker 9: A little bit for the arrogant itself, the cardinal, you know.

529
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Speaker 8: So maybe that's what he is, man, but he you know,

530
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Speaker 8: he got mad at somebody for something that they wrote

531
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Speaker 8: last year, and it was was and it was like

532
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Speaker 8: not even it was not even.

533
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Speaker 5: Like like it was because yeah, Calvin talk about this,

534
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Speaker 5: uh the it was two years ago when it was

535
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Speaker 5: the cleats in Green Bay.

536
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was. I was, actually I was there in

537
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Speaker 4: the locker room and he said you need to ask

538
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Speaker 4: people about the seven inch cleats and yes, and Calvin

539
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Speaker 4: then said something about it and then he got all

540
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Speaker 4: but he said it. It was you know, with those

541
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Speaker 4: typical things players says something it's written that players like, yeah, well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the same way he was because he was

543
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Speaker 1: the one who went on the.

544
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Speaker 5: Show last year with a kid of me span from

545
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Speaker 5: about uh, I can't think his name from barstool.

546
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Speaker 9: McAfee.

547
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, he won on a McAfee show last year and

548
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Speaker 5: was the first one to talk about the tours like

549
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Speaker 5: a zoo animal. He did that volunteer. They talking about

550
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Speaker 5: the difference in Houston in vout he was a zoo animal.

551
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 5: People started writing about the zoo animal made the headline.

552
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Speaker 1: He started talking. He stopped talking to the media.

553
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Speaker 5: He stopped talking to the meeting in Houston because the

554
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Speaker 5: zoo animal made a headline naturally, and so he stopped

555
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Speaker 5: talking to the media.

556
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Speaker 6: But it was something he said, right, that's DLin Shills

557
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Speaker 6: in a nutshell.

558
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Speaker 9: Well, even this last thing was him in a nutshell then,

559
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Speaker 9: because like who has the thought process? Let me get

560
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Speaker 9: two coffees, you know, the black one, Let me do

561
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Speaker 9: the writing. Blah blah blah. After your point, I had

562
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Speaker 9: one catch.

563
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Speaker 1: And one catch and I got punished on that catch.

564
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Speaker 4: He was franchised by the team, got paid ten million dollars.

565
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Speaker 4: They offered him a deal. Steven was talking about we

566
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Speaker 4: offered him a contract. He thought he should have been

567
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Speaker 4: getting David and Joku money. Yeah, and then he went

568
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Speaker 4: to that that camp, I guess, the tight End summit.

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Speaker 4: And then guess he thought since he was with them,

570
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Speaker 4: that he was one of them, and you know, give

571
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Speaker 4: me some Kelsey money. And let's be honest, how many

572
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 4: guys have seen somebody get paid from Cleveland think I

573
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 4: want that? Well, most people are like, no, that's Cleveland

574
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Speaker 4: for a re they do stuff like right, Cleveland has

575
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Speaker 4: to pay you a lot of money. And so that

576
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Speaker 4: didn't happen. Then I'm not talking about my contract. That

577
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Speaker 4: he got mad and it was it was just very

578
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Speaker 4: interesting that a guy is just a guy. Right. He

579
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Speaker 4: wasn't the he wasn't the Jason Whitten next man. It

580
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Speaker 4: wasn't that that guy.

581
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Speaker 6: But he is a solid player player.

582
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Speaker 4: It's a good player.

583
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Speaker 6: But he and his does he think he is.

584
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Speaker 4: They weren't gonna get he wasn't going to get in

585
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 4: Joku money. You're not in Joku. You're you're not him physically,

586
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Speaker 4: you're just and it's not Cleveland and you can't.

587
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 4: So okay, So I didn't know he was going to

589
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 4: come back super mad at the team.

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Speaker 8: That okays, enough time talking about somebody like dog shoes man,

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00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 8: let's move on.

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00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 4: Claims brought it up.

593
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 6: I'm being like Spielberg. You did, yes, ye, yes, we

594
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 6: were talking about sorry tight ends.

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Speaker 5: No, we were talking about arrogant Michael Porsons and you

596
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 5: went back at that we were talking.

597
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 4: About because they brought up the thing.

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Speaker 6: You brought it up from that, so you brought it up,

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00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 6: but we took it and ran with that over radio.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you went.

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Speaker 6: Ohio, Joe Cloud on nobody. I mean, I'm not but Stanford.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, respect for Stanley.

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Speaker 1: Can anybody get in Oregon? I'm just asking anybody.

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Speaker 9: Our c PA has been rising.

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Speaker 4: Five hundred people. You've seen all that?

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Speaker 1: N I l when you say been rising, that tells

607
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: you about like Cougar, how to get in? Wow?

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Speaker 9: Talking about.

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Speaker 1: Just got Yeah, it's thinking the old back back twelve Yeah,

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Speaker 1: cass Stanford used to.

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Speaker 9: L a schools U s c Are we talking about

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00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 9: a conference that doesn't tough schools to get into?

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Speaker 1: And then you got them them North schools up there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what they're.

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Speaker 9: Washington's a good school, Washington's, Morgan's got the great sports business?

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Speaker 3: We got?

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Speaker 1: Is it school?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I believe it is.

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Speaker 1: You don't know what we're talking about?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they played basketball?

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Speaker 1: Right, No, research it is?

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 4: I want to say it is why are you talking one,

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Speaker 4: I'm just asking.

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Speaker 9: I don't know you're talking on the number one team,

627
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Speaker 9: the number one.

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Speaker 1: Team, and what your academic standards are?

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Speaker 9: Ten championship bound.

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Speaker 4: Let's get a break from the University of Texas alone.

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Speaker 4: Clear until I'm assuming he went to Oregon, Joe didn't. Okay, yes,

632
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Speaker 4: you didn't know he went to I did not know

633
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Speaker 4: until today. The Ohio State, No, they don't have no standards.

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Speaker 6: We want to top research schools. A couple's shut up.

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Speaker 4: They are a U school. Ohio State is the Ohio State?

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Speaker 4: Is it is? It's not about them, about.

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Speaker 1: Them, I wasn't talking about Yeah, yeah talking.

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Speaker 6: I know, I know he's about I know he's just

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Speaker 4: the three except the football team. Dan Quinn is the

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Speaker 4: head coach who was a defensive coordinator here. His defensive coordinators,

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Speaker 4: Joe Witt Junior and Joe Witt Jr. Gonna want to

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Speaker 4: put it on him. That's just my opinion from knowing

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Speaker 4: Joe Witt haven't talked to him, but Joey gonna try

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Speaker 4: and put.

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Speaker 4: And that's Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 6: That's the type way I was gonna say.

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Speaker 8: Maybe that's because he wanted the DC job, and Jerry said,

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Speaker 8: I don't want the first time DC.

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Speaker 6: I'd like to with more experience.

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Speaker 5: No, there's no question this was Joey's dream job. I

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Speaker 5: mean talking to joe with his dream job would be

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Speaker 5: coached DC with the Cowboys, and that's what he wanted.

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Speaker 1: They won it bad. He dreamed. He talked about this

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Speaker 1: well when he first.

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Speaker 5: Started coaching, trying to manifest that thing come out of

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Speaker 5: you know, Dad was a big time coach, you know,

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Speaker 5: and he started coaching, this was where he wanted to be,

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Speaker 5: you know, and so being here was a dream come true.

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Speaker 1: And certainly he wanted to be to DC.

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Speaker 5: And so the fact that they didn't give him the job,

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Speaker 5: and I think Mike McCarthy would have hired him, I

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Speaker 5: think he's right.

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Speaker 1: Jerry wanted a veteran, experienced guy to come fix.

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Speaker 5: This defense because again, and every one thing we talked

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Speaker 5: about in the locker room, you know, he got dirty

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Speaker 5: with some of that late season hate on Dan Quinn and.

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Speaker 1: Joe Witt and dan Quinn. Yeah, like I got something

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Speaker 1: to prove.

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Speaker 5: I want to show people, you know, because they're taking

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Speaker 5: care of business up there. And I asked, you know,

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Speaker 5: we talked to tell people in the locker room today,

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Speaker 5: you know, And I asked Jordan Lewis, who's become one

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Speaker 5: of the favorites because Joe gets it. I mean, Jordan

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Speaker 5: gets it. He understands the media, he understands the talk.

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Speaker 5: He has a puzzle of the team. If you want

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Speaker 5: to get a good evaluation of the NFL, the Cowboys,

723
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Speaker 5: the media where everybody's there. Talked to Jordan Lewis. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Jordan was he and he really has a good head

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Speaker 5: on his shoulders. And uh, number one, they all still

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Speaker 5: love and adore dan Quinn, you know, talking to.

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Speaker 1: Cooker today and they still love the door dan Quinn.

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Speaker 5: And and yes he liked rap music, and yes he

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Speaker 5: wears Jordan's Yeah he was kind of hip. Yeah he's

730
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Speaker 5: a players coach. He still calls him, he still talks

731
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Speaker 5: to him. They love dan Quinn, they love playing for

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Speaker 5: dan Quinn. They love her later than the dan Quinn, but.

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Speaker 1: At the end of his tenure, there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of Cowboy fans, you know, they forget now they got

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Speaker 1: that memory.

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Speaker 5: After Green Bay or dan Quinn checked out. Dan Quinn's

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Speaker 5: something wrong with dan quinn defense some you know, all

738
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Speaker 5: of this stuff and we need a new voice and

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Speaker 5: Jim is gonna come and he's better than dan Quinn

740
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Speaker 5: and all this other stuff. Right as Jordan about that,

741
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 5: he said, we're still bad on defense.

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Speaker 4: He said they're not a good defense.

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Speaker 5: He didn't use those words, but he said, we still

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00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 5: got the same problems. Yeah, it's interesting, he said, that

745
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 5: is deeper than that. Have we got the same problems

746
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Speaker 5: and this so you can't it wasn't no dan Quinn

747
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 5: and no problem they had that not bad to stop

748
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 5: the run and and things that they had that remained.

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Speaker 5: So no, dan Quinn does not get dirty in his mind.

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Speaker 5: What what what what happened in Green Bay?

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Speaker 9: Also what happened with Green Bay was they were switching

752
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Speaker 9: things up because of Stefan Gilmore's shoulder entry, So they

753
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Speaker 9: had to switch up their defense entirely, and that was it.

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Speaker 9: It didn't work right, but that was something that was

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00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 9: kind of forced to happen. Per se. So long story sorty,

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Speaker 9: I think to your point, I remember right after that,

757
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Speaker 9: people are like, oh god, don't bring dan Quinn back. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: I don't think that's aging well, frankly, and neither the

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Speaker 9: same thing with Joe Wits to your point, I think

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Speaker 9: he got touched by that. But you talked to Mike

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00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 9: McCarthy and Brian Schoenheimer this week on their own. They

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Speaker 9: brought uput how good Joe Whitt was. Yeah, specifically they

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Speaker 9: were asked about dan Quinn and they said, yeah, well,

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Speaker 9: Joe Whits got that thing humming, and he's got those

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Speaker 9: players believing and fighting. And I think to your point,

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Speaker 9: it's gonna be a statement defensive game for Washington. They're

767
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Speaker 9: gonna want it.

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Speaker 5: To be ain good with dan Quinn because I think

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Speaker 5: he's letting Joe Wit run the defense. You know, he's

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Speaker 5: the head coach and he's not. You know, you could

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Speaker 5: be head coach and offense coordinator. You can be the

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Speaker 5: head coach at defense coordinator. Were letting Joe with This

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Speaker 5: has been Joe's dream job, and you know, he letting

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Speaker 5: Joe run the defense and and is working out for them.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's you know, to your the dead Quinn.

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Speaker 5: Hate started well before they got them little safeties and

777
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 5: playing cornerback. And you know, this whole scheme became a

778
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Speaker 5: referendum on what's wrong with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Dag Quitz, so you can steal coach.

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Speaker 4: Dan Quinn. Mike Zimmer had been let down by the

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Speaker 4: front office. This is a team that has not been

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Speaker 4: able to stop the run. And I'm sorry. You look

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Speaker 4: at when dan Quinn was winning Super Bowls with Seattle,

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Speaker 4: what did they have up front? You look at what

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Speaker 4: Mike Zimmer had in Cincinnati and Minnesota and he was

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Speaker 4: winning games. It's up front and the Cowboys the general

787
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Speaker 4: manager is not place the priority on it. And when

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Speaker 4: they did place a priority on in the first round,

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Speaker 4: Miss Smith, they missed badly.

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Speaker 1: They did. But Dad Quill was part of the decision making.

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Speaker 5: There's no way they drafted Misi Smith and Deep was accordingated,

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Speaker 5: didn't say I want that guy, you know, especially after

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Speaker 5: they they couldn't stop the run the year before, and

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00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 5: they made a focus on stopping the row because they

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Speaker 5: got Michael, they got the edge rushers.

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Speaker 1: So Dad Quinn knew and.

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Speaker 5: They all because I remember draft day, they all talked

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Speaker 5: about we have to our priority stopping the run.

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Speaker 1: And they identify Misie Smith as that guy. That was

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Speaker 1: some of the dad's work.

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Speaker 4: Now okay, yes, okay, that's that's fair. But I also

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Speaker 4: say this just one shot.

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Speaker 6: That was it just one one that.

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Speaker 1: They no, no, no, no, no more than one.

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Speaker 5: They drafted Sam Williams and they drafted about understand that,

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Speaker 5: but they thought, you know, and and again I don't

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00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 5: know the way the way uh the Marion is playing.

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Speaker 5: You know, if he don't get hurt, it's Brookie, you

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Speaker 5: can He was gonna be a big part of the

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Speaker 5: defense last year too.

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Speaker 1: You know, that may have made a difference.

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Speaker 9: One linebacker against the Green Bay Packers, one starting but.

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Speaker 5: They you know, he may have made a difference. I'm

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Speaker 5: just saying that they tried time they went and got Gilmore.

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Speaker 5: I mean they they tried to prove the defensive dak

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Speaker 5: When I mean to say that they did nothing.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about the run, bro the run.

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Speaker 1: You stop run.

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Speaker 4: They can't stop the run. You just stopped the run

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Speaker 4: last year. Before that, you knew, you knew, you've been

821
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Speaker 4: trying to stop the money. Haven't done it. Okay, they

822
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Speaker 4: still haven't done it.

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Speaker 1: They drafted the great they drafted the first round. He

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Speaker 1: was attack and that was just one shot. That's what.

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Speaker 4: Wait, you could have got.

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Speaker 1: Three thirty pound you can bring you down and one night.

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Speaker 4: Okay. So I remember the time when Bill Walsh had

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Speaker 4: an issue with his football team and he says, you know,

829
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Speaker 4: we need some defensive We are bad dbs. So he

830
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Speaker 4: drafted Ronnie Lott, drafted Eric Right, and Dafter Williamson put

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Speaker 4: three dudes. Hey, we gonna address it and keep addressing it.

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Speaker 8: That reminds me of the year that the Cowboys drafted

833
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Speaker 8: who three cornerbacks in the same draft.

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Speaker 6: None of them could play, Kareem lar More.

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Speaker 8: Of Florida State, Dwayne Goowich around. They put some numbers,

836
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Speaker 8: some draft capital at corner for.

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Speaker 9: At least they tried.

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Speaker 1: They all had two of them had red flag.

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Speaker 6: And Mario was fine. He was playing fine until Damn

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Speaker 6: Marino found him on Thanksgiving Day.

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Speaker 5: Mario was the lowest round of the pit around. He

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Speaker 5: was just a guy lord round of the pick. One

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Speaker 5: of them was a weed head. One of them win

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Speaker 5: and killed somebody.

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Speaker 4: Stop. I just said you just for all the I mean, yes,

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Speaker 4: you're right, you're telling your truth.

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Speaker 1: Trust.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's bad when I'm in the strip club

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, look, at the player. I was a

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Speaker 4: strip club there and I'm like, yeah, locked eyes across the.

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Speaker 1: Walk, a, how are you?

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Speaker 4: You probably should go home?

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Speaker 5: Stop bad, stop you saund like the people just hating

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Speaker 5: on the city because they was in the club.

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Speaker 9: You wanted to know where the club was.

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Speaker 4: This is back when this we knew, we knew wood

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Speaker 4: he had Like, dude, you you you know you are

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Speaker 4: not living up to it. Like, dude, you should probably go.

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Speaker 4: This was me actually just trying to actually be a

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Speaker 4: good man.

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Speaker 1: So you was in the strip club being a good friend.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I learned from you.

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Speaker 1: Was helping people. I learned from you get through college.

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Speaker 4: I didn't help had players. He'll champangel.

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Speaker 1: You have people get through college. Make it the ray.

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Speaker 1: You're a good rich I'm gonna leave you.

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Speaker 4: Alone right now because I'm sure could be bringing.

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Speaker 1: You right on here to break.

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Speaker 5: You volunteered. I tell ya used to like Michael Parson,

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Speaker 5: you volunteered. Now you're mad that we're focusing.

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00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 4: On That's fine, man.

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Speaker 6: You used to have to hang out at the strip club.

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Speaker 6: That's where the players.

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Speaker 4: Want learned from players. This is you wanted to find

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Speaker 4: your players, and Mondays was good times to go see cats.

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Speaker 6: And they just started saying, some coaches roll up in there,

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Speaker 6: you can get out.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, Now, nobody ever named the Champagne Room after

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00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 4: me like they did for Clarence. You know, Champagne. I

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Speaker 4: was Champagne.

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Speaker 9: But to get I mean, the rest of the story

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Speaker 9: is adding up, so I don't have to believe that part.

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Speaker 6: Damn, lie, Joe, just show up. Hey, I'm here to

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Speaker 6: see Chill.

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Speaker 4: Welcome. I'm with Chill.

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Speaker 6: Oh oh, is he at his usual table over there?

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Speaker 4: It was a very good baseball reports, Like, hey, you

888
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Speaker 4: remember the first time I met you, man, it was

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Speaker 4: with Claire was.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, lies and damn, like that's not a lie.

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Speaker 6: Knew he wanted to be.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I had my computer.

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Speaker 6: I was working, I said, he was at his usual table.

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Speaker 4: Your Wi Fi?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you plugged in Wi Fi. That was crazy back

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Speaker 1: in the day. That was one of the first places

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Speaker 1: a Wi Fi. Yes, I was.

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Speaker 8: But you used to go there because the players used

899
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Speaker 8: to be there and you could have casual conversations the information.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it was you could you know, like we're

901
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Speaker 6: being funny, but it was.

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Speaker 9: That's one of the first things he taught me. I'm

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Speaker 9: not even kidding.

904
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Speaker 6: So you have to go where the players are.

905
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Speaker 9: You gotta go where the players are.

906
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Speaker 6: And then when they went to church, they start going

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Speaker 6: to church with him.

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Speaker 9: Where they go now the club? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: After the game? What they're too young man. I can't

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Speaker 1: deal with the young folks.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Claire till It was fun.

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Speaker 1: Joe.

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Speaker 4: Now you know you're married. One of the hang out

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Speaker 4: with Claire. It's like you used to Jean jacck Taylor.

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Speaker 4: Keep doing what you do on New He scrugs. We'll producer,

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Speaker 4: Chris me and everybody here. This has been the media mesh.

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Speaker 4: We'll do it again tomorrow right here.

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Speaker 1: You got us, got got getting us out early.

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Speaker 11: With.

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Speaker 2: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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