WEBVTT - Wrestling Observer Daily - The Rock/Eddie Kingston/NXT Talk

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get it all. How's it going? Everybody? Brian Albarez

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<v Speaker 1>here on or wrestling him overlive. We are here every

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<v Speaker 1>sixth Eastern. It is Tuesday on this program, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so tired, but I'm here and I'm gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 1>all of the news. This Daylight saving his time as

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<v Speaker 1>a disaster for myself and my my youngsters. My angsters

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<v Speaker 1>are going to bed late and getting up at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time. It's just absolute brutal. But I am here today,

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<v Speaker 1>So if I look tired, I'm not on I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm on Death Store. But anyway, what have we

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<v Speaker 1>got to talk about here today? In The Rock? That's

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<v Speaker 1>Rock going to do WrestleMania, Well maybe someday. I've often

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<v Speaker 1>been skeptical about whether The Rock is gonna do WrestleMania.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely not doing wrestle Mania this year, it appears, and

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<v Speaker 1>he did an interview talking about this with a dish Nation.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll tell you what he has to say about

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<v Speaker 1>that today. Lots of interesting interviews. There was a story

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<v Speaker 1>in Eddie Kinston everyone's talking about here today. We can

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<v Speaker 1>give you some quotes from that. We have got to

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<v Speaker 1>the SmackDown and Rampage ratings from Friday night, neither of

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<v Speaker 1>which were good, but neither of which we're bad. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a week, so we'll talk about those, and also

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<v Speaker 1>Kaylee Ray returning to action. We have an n x

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<v Speaker 1>T line of for tonight. Four matches announced for n

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<v Speaker 1>x T tonight, which is much better than the number

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<v Speaker 1>that we're announced for Raw yesterday. We have our weekly

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<v Speaker 1>Raw report, which I know everybody is a big fan of.

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<v Speaker 1>For those of you that are baffled that a braun

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<v Speaker 1>Breaker has to be braun Breaker and not rex Steiner

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<v Speaker 1>Bronson rex Steiner, the son of Rick Steiner. Apparently reck

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<v Speaker 1>Steiner was gonna be at Halloween Havoc, but it fell through.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll tell you about that and so much more as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard on the news there's been some outages, and

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<v Speaker 1>we've had outages on every single show the last four shows.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been an issue four in a row. Can we

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<v Speaker 1>break the streak on this program? We'll find out for

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<v Speaker 1>the break Observer Live back in the show. Bright Elbare

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<v Speaker 1>is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike simper vid also Wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>Observer dot com. Oh thank god it's Tuesday. I can

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<v Speaker 1>talk about raw later, but before that. Dwayne the Rock

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson is addressed the possibility of facing Roman Reigns in WrestleMania.

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<v Speaker 1>In an interview with Andrew Frooned of Dish Nation, Rock

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<v Speaker 1>stated that there was quote no truth to the rumor

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<v Speaker 1>that he would face the Universal Champion. In a similar

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<v Speaker 1>interview with Comic book dot Com, Johnson did not rule

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<v Speaker 1>out another match, but said any inn ring scenario would

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<v Speaker 1>have to make sense. There is no true to that

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Possibly down the road, we'll see, he said.

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<v Speaker 1>We stay very close to myself in Roman reigns. In

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<v Speaker 1>a Comic Book dot Com interview, Johnson was asked a

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<v Speaker 1>more direct question about whether or not he's he's a

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<v Speaker 1>w w E title reign in his future. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I have another title run considering him the

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<v Speaker 1>People's Champion, I don't know if it's another title run. Possibly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there might be another match down the road.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have to make sense. So as we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about for a while, clearly that's one of the big

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<v Speaker 1>matches that they want for for Roman reigns, and whether

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<v Speaker 1>he'll ever get it, I don't know. It doesn't look

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<v Speaker 1>like it's happening this year very much. Looks if you,

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<v Speaker 1>if you watch what they've done of a eight, that

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<v Speaker 1>the plan for this year's WrestleMania is like the the

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<v Speaker 1>this this match should get an award. Most WrestleMania's headlined

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Reigns versus brock Lessner. So that appears to be

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<v Speaker 1>the direction they're going. And after that, it's like who's

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<v Speaker 1>left for Roman reigns. I mean, the big three were

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<v Speaker 1>John Cena, brock Lessner, and the Rock. So if it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the Rock this year, they're gonna try and get

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<v Speaker 1>the Rock for for twenty twenty three. I mean, can

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine, first off, Rock would be like fifty one

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<v Speaker 1>years old, a decade removed from the last time he

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<v Speaker 1>had a match, and you know, tore half the muscles

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<v Speaker 1>in his body, a huge movie star white take the risk.

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<v Speaker 1>There's that. And also I mean, as we as we

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<v Speaker 1>have seen already, like who has left for Roman reigns.

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<v Speaker 1>If we have one match with Brock at WrestleMania this

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<v Speaker 1>year and then another match with Rock and WrestleMania next year,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know how many Like there's so many pay

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<v Speaker 1>per views in between, we're gonna have We're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>Xavier Woods challenging for the title as the King, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Sammy Zane is gonna get a three week

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<v Speaker 1>push or something. I don't know. I just don't think

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<v Speaker 1>his match is never gonna happen. I don't think so,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've been wrong before, So if it pushes it

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<v Speaker 1>toe by that point, let's see April of would the

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<v Speaker 1>Rock have have had to already declare to run for

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<v Speaker 1>the presidency the United States? And because a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people think he's got political aspiration, Well it's simple, Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>You you you lose your retire and then at WrestleMania,

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<v Speaker 1>following the main event, you announced you will be running

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<v Speaker 1>for president. Ah. I don't think he's running for president

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<v Speaker 1>in how about governor California, which would set up nicely

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<v Speaker 1>with where they're going to be in Los Angeles. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he could run for president eight tell you that much. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let him jump in for governor. Governor? What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think he has some jabrony? That's true, you got right

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<v Speaker 1>to the top. You know, why have any political experience

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<v Speaker 1>because that's worked out so well for us in the

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<v Speaker 1>past here in America. That worked well for the guy

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of getting elected. That's I guess maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>would It would he be the highest uh, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>in all of pro wrestling history. Yeah, say, we gotta

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<v Speaker 1>call up Carl Stern. I mean, what's the highest level

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<v Speaker 1>of office that has been involved directly in a pro

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling storyline? I know Governor Jesse Ventura at SummerSlam. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it was that one year, actually was the guest referee.

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<v Speaker 1>But have we had any governors that have gotten in

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<v Speaker 1>the ring at any point? Have we gotten any presidential candidates?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me? The president? The last president we

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<v Speaker 1>had was in a WrestleMania made event. I mean a

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<v Speaker 1>wrestler though he was he was in there, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he didn't actually wrestle, but I mean he was

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<v Speaker 1>actually he was a head liner WrestleMania. Alright. We also

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<v Speaker 1>have this interview with with Eddie Kingston everyone's been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about and a pieces of the Players tribute and a WS.

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie Kingston opened up about his upbringing, how he almost

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<v Speaker 1>quit wrestling, dealing with both mental health issues and alcohol

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<v Speaker 1>and drug issues, his big break coming to terms with

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<v Speaker 1>where he's at in the wrestling business. What am I

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<v Speaker 1>talking about? His upbringing in Yonkers, getting the wrestling bug

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<v Speaker 1>through watching tapes and eating Chinese food his Friday reward

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<v Speaker 1>if he stayed out of trouble in school. I'll have

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<v Speaker 1>to remember that for pay except she only likes about

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<v Speaker 1>four foots. Watching wrestling was always my escape. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like my little sanctuary. Is probably the only thing that

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<v Speaker 1>kept me out of jail. In high school. My friends

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<v Speaker 1>used to be calling me up at night to come

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<v Speaker 1>and get up to who knows what. I had stayed

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<v Speaker 1>at home by myself to watch Raw or the Super

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob or e c W. He was kicked out of

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<v Speaker 1>school due to a fight, took an iron workers job

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<v Speaker 1>with relatives to He decided one day he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>become a pro wrestler. Detailed the struggles to make ends

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<v Speaker 1>meet at night, in which only eight fans were in

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<v Speaker 1>the building for a show, but the reactions of one

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<v Speaker 1>particular fan helped keep him going. Detailer he turned to

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol and painkillers to cope. I drank, christ did I drink.

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<v Speaker 1>I became a bouncer just so I could drink more

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<v Speaker 1>on the weekends. I started drinking at one on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>bounced the bar till seven, go and wrestled, and come

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<v Speaker 1>back to the bar after and drink till seven in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning. Wake up the next day it was football Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>A drink from noon till to am. Described a story

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<v Speaker 1>where he disappeared in an alcoholic binge, miss dates, broke

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<v Speaker 1>his cell phone, caused concerns with friends. He woke up

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<v Speaker 1>one day, went to his mailbox. There was a letter

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<v Speaker 1>from Larry Sweeney, who was worried about him and said

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<v Speaker 1>he felt like he lost his best friend. He wrote

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<v Speaker 1>him a letter. Kingston then turned around and said if

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<v Speaker 1>he hadn't gotten that letter, he probably would have drank

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<v Speaker 1>himself to death. Kingston said he nearly quit the business

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<v Speaker 1>and his brother talked him out of it, saying, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to tell his son that his uncle Eddie

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<v Speaker 1>was a quitter. Kept going, but the pandemic hid. He

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<v Speaker 1>had to sell his gear to even make a mortgage payment.

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<v Speaker 1>He got a call to an outdoor show a New

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<v Speaker 1>Jersey where he decided to cut a promo on several wrestlers.

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<v Speaker 1>This got the attention of a w He was brought

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<v Speaker 1>in for the T and T title Open challenge against Cody.

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<v Speaker 1>He described how Brodi Lee fired him up before the match,

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<v Speaker 1>and about about Lee and John at Moxley were there

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<v Speaker 1>afterwards to give their stamp of approval of his performance.

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<v Speaker 1>Several weeks later, on in vacation with his girlfriend after

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<v Speaker 1>he was under contract, the realization of the point he

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<v Speaker 1>was at in his career finally hit him. I just

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<v Speaker 1>started crying. The wave came over me. I finally understood

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<v Speaker 1>what was happening. I stood bawling right there in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been It's I have been everything in this life,

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<v Speaker 1>angry kid, depressed, teenager, and addict. I've seen so many

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<v Speaker 1>holding cells who would make your head spin I've missed up,

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<v Speaker 1>self destructed, burned bridges, but down to my last dollar.

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<v Speaker 1>The only reason I'm still doing this, the only reason

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still on this earth is because all of my

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<v Speaker 1>friends never stopped having my back. And he tweeted afterwards

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<v Speaker 1>that the whole moral of the story is just keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the moral of the story from Eddie Kingston.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been through a lot, he says, I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>through more because life is life, but just keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's uh, the whole article is up there, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a link to any think on the front page of

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<v Speaker 1>Wrestling Observer dot com. But it's gonna be tough to

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<v Speaker 1>ever turn this guy. He'll you know, maybe you can

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<v Speaker 1>do it because fans love him so much they'll go

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<v Speaker 1>along with it. But man's a baby face to the cord,

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<v Speaker 1>just like Moxley. These two gritty, angry, violent men baby faces,

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<v Speaker 1>Because aren't we all baby faces at our core? When

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<v Speaker 1>we all strip it away, when we are all vulnerable

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<v Speaker 1>to the people that love us. Uh, you know we are,

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<v Speaker 1>And there's always a good person inside. And that's again,

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<v Speaker 1>And we talked about it over and over and over,

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<v Speaker 1>the realness, the authenticity of Eddie Kingston, of John Moxley,

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<v Speaker 1>of Brian Danielson, all of which are being able to

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<v Speaker 1>be brought out on a w t V. But I

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<v Speaker 1>can't stress enough for people to read this Player's Tribune

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<v Speaker 1>dot com article by Eddie Kingston. It is everywhere. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure everybody has retweeted it. Uh, you know you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot in there that is very easy to

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<v Speaker 1>relate to and very identifiable for me and I think

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of people. And the bottom line is,

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<v Speaker 1>even if some of the things he talks about, some

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<v Speaker 1>of the addictions, some of the troubles, some of the

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<v Speaker 1>self sabotage that he's done to himself, even if you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot relate to that, the story of this person is

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<v Speaker 1>still easily relatable. And maybe if you haven't been that person,

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<v Speaker 1>you've been on the other side having to try to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with this person, to help this person, to to

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<v Speaker 1>battle with this person, to to to go through all

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff. And uh, again, it's uh on in

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<v Speaker 1>a time where we're we're talking about the realities of things, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and the reality of wrestling and how to get a

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<v Speaker 1>motion and all that sort of stuff. You know, Eddie

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<v Speaker 1>Kingston and this article is uh is really as real

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<v Speaker 1>as you can get. You're back with more news after

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<v Speaker 1>the break. If you want Texas four to five seven

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<v Speaker 1>eight zero seven five six six is the number that

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<v Speaker 1>is zero seven five six six back in the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Observer Live. Back in the show, Bran Albert is here

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling Observer Alive. Like Spervi also wrestling Observer dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>Friday Night with a show back on Fox. Septer Aaring

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<v Speaker 1>on FS won the previous week Friday's SmackDown two point

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<v Speaker 1>zero nine three million viewers, down six point nine percent

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<v Speaker 1>from the last time the show aired on Fox two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, SmackDown's lowest viewership on Fox since August thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>In the eighteen forty nine demo SmackDown point five seven

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<v Speaker 1>down one point seven percent. Show finished second in the

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<v Speaker 1>networks in that category, trailing Shark Tank, which today point

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<v Speaker 1>six zero let all network programming, and eighteen to thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four SmackDown down nine point six percent in overall viewers.

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<v Speaker 1>The Rampage Show five and ninety nine thousand viewers, down

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<v Speaker 1>three point nine percent, second highest viewership for the show

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<v Speaker 1>since October one, eighteen and forty nine, A point to

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<v Speaker 1>two which is down twelve percent from the previous week's show,

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<v Speaker 1>tied the second lowest rating in that demo in Rampages history.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifth in the cable charts in eighteen to forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Competition was an ESPN game, two games, one point

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<v Speaker 1>six million, one point two million, and b A. So

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<v Speaker 1>those are the numbers there, And this is one of

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<v Speaker 1>those weeks where you know, I saw, I saw the usual,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, a Rampage, five other shows dying. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you point out it's fifth on cable. Oh, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>They got five bro fifth on cable. Here's the deal,

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<v Speaker 1>as Dave noted last night, if you want to go

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<v Speaker 1>by total viewership, then then SmackDown is probably gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>moved to f S one because in total viewership they're

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<v Speaker 1>almost always dead last. But in eighteen and forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>they rank highly on the charts, So a fair comparison

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<v Speaker 1>would be how they do on the charts, and SmackDown

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<v Speaker 1>did very well in the charts and Rampage did very

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<v Speaker 1>well on the charts. So there's there's no story here

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<v Speaker 1>unless you want to make it a story and spout

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of gobbledee gook. I'm not a fan of

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<v Speaker 1>if you make it a story, Nor am I a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of the gobbledee Googer. What about Hector Guerrero himself? Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>he was all right. He looked like all of my

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<v Speaker 1>my relative Do you think he worked better my my

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<v Speaker 1>father's my father's brother and literally, if you, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone looks at me and they go, look at this

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<v Speaker 1>white guy. But if you, if you, if you saw

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of all of my immediate relatives, I mean, we're

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<v Speaker 1>the Guerrero clan. I don't know what happened to me,

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<v Speaker 1>but so but but only Hector had like that wide mustache. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to my family. Did you have one that looked

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<v Speaker 1>like Chavo? Yes, Mondo. I mean my dad looks like

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<v Speaker 1>Chabo classic right now, anybody in good of shape is

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<v Speaker 1>Chavo Jr? Because I know you're right. What are you

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<v Speaker 1>talking about? I'm not. I'm in the best shape of

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<v Speaker 1>my life. I may not be big and muscular right now,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can go brother. Uh, you know I had

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<v Speaker 1>a point. Now I can't remember. You don't have a point,

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<v Speaker 1>but I got a point. Wait, hold on, hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, hold on. You can start this fight. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what it was. You can start the fight, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lose the fight, Brian. How many times? How many

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<v Speaker 1>people who want to make fun of a w and

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<v Speaker 1>want to plan a flag and do all this battle

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<v Speaker 1>over Friday ratings? How many times has professional wrestling throughout

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<v Speaker 1>since the dawn of television? How long has it been

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<v Speaker 1>on network commercial television? It's been on there forever? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we always get a stint of professional wrestling on. And

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<v Speaker 1>what happens to professional wrestling on commercial network TV? Brian?

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<v Speaker 1>Every time what happens just spears goes away. By that's

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<v Speaker 1>what's gonna happen to SmackDown the A T And I

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<v Speaker 1>know times have changed, days are a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 1>When they resigned with Fox Bro, they absolutely might look

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<v Speaker 1>Fox wanted this is part of a package where they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to build up making a like a sports

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<v Speaker 1>of men's Friday. You have SmackDown, which leads you into

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<v Speaker 1>college football in the UFC or whatever they got obviously

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<v Speaker 1>not the UFC anymore on Saturday, Major League Baseball, everything

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<v Speaker 1>that they have there on into Sunday with their NFL coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, it made complete sense. But it's also

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that is when you start bringing in people

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<v Speaker 1>like and I know, like there are people that are

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<v Speaker 1>parcel towards w w E. But when you have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the dramatic originals that are creating things for Fox, you

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<v Speaker 1>have all these other names, all these other people and

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<v Speaker 1>all these other hands in the mix, Wrestling is usually

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing out. So it's you know, it's great

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<v Speaker 1>to squawk about SmackDown being on network TV and compared

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<v Speaker 1>to a show that's on at ten o'clock on a

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<v Speaker 1>cable station. And you know, to me, I would be

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<v Speaker 1>careful about doing that, okay, because I know SmackDown does well,

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<v Speaker 1>but again ten o'clock and for what they give their

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<v Speaker 1>what they give t n T, they're happy. Look at

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<v Speaker 1>what t n T. And we'll look at what Turner

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<v Speaker 1>Television does late night anyway with with you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen to forty nine group and the twelve to thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four group because of adult swim. Again, for what they want,

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<v Speaker 1>they're happy, and I don't know, I'm sure for what

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<v Speaker 1>Fox wants they're happy too, but I would not. It's

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<v Speaker 1>an impossible battle to try to fight. Nobody on a

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<v Speaker 1>w side usually fights this the die hards. It's always

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<v Speaker 1>somebody in w w E who wants to play compare

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<v Speaker 1>and contrast, and you can't do it because the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing you can say is, yeah, we're bigger, we're on

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<v Speaker 1>network TV, but that usually doesn't work out too well.

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<v Speaker 1>And frankly, compared to what they're doing at ten o'clock,

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing is a hell of a lot more impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>Bottom line. Alright, So can I talk about n x

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<v Speaker 1>T tonight now? Because I know everyone's asking what's the lineup?

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<v Speaker 1>They're all excited for n x T two point oh

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<v Speaker 1>tonight as am I of course, show is anyway, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got toxic attraction. I know you're stunned to hear the

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<v Speaker 1>toxic attractions on the show tonight. You know you have

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<v Speaker 1>something for the old guys, Mandy g G and j C.

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<v Speaker 1>Jane versus Eo Shirai, Caden Carter and Casey Caton Zoro.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of names, Mandy g C, j C,

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<v Speaker 1>Kashida and Ikamanjiro Jack. At time, we'll be facing the

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<v Speaker 1>Creed brothers, So let's all say a prayer or you've

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<v Speaker 1>got Kaylee Ray versus Sarai and Joe Gacy versus Boa.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little less excited after I read that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still gonna watch it tonight full of excitement because

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<v Speaker 1>someday everyone, someday, Rick Steiner is probably gonna show up

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<v Speaker 1>and embrace braun Breaker. According to Tomaso Champa, Rick Steiner

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be at an XT Halloween havoc last month,

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<v Speaker 1>until the appearance fell through and took place October twenty six,

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<v Speaker 1>headline by Champa versus Steiner's son, braun Breaker, Champa retained

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<v Speaker 1>the title. Champa told Talk Sports Steiner was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be the show but pulled out at the last minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Steiner was supposed to be all the Waeen Havoc. He

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<v Speaker 1>pulled out last minute, maybe because I retained, but I

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<v Speaker 1>won't say That's why I would love to be friends

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<v Speaker 1>with him. I said to Braun I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>meet your dad. I want him to be my buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>I want us to exchange numbers and whatever Rick Steiner does.

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<v Speaker 1>He's probably not a big phone guy. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just want to be friends with him. He

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<v Speaker 1>don't be awesome. It don't be the greatest thing ever

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<v Speaker 1>is if they did another match and braun Breaker won

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<v Speaker 1>the title from Tomaso Champa and he he was about

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<v Speaker 1>to be handed that belt, but suddenly, from out of

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd came his father, and his father grabbed the

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<v Speaker 1>n x T title and he wrapped it around bron

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<v Speaker 1>Breaker's waist. And the answers go, what a wonderful moment.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so great to see a Rick Breaker here. Would

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<v Speaker 1>that be cool? You know what? They won't do, but

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<v Speaker 1>they could do, because this could be a real case

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<v Speaker 1>where this happened. I mean, I don't think he ran

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<v Speaker 1>out of all of his money, but w W likes

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<v Speaker 1>to bring back people and talk about how much they

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<v Speaker 1>failed and how little money they've made their lives and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and and didn't didn't Rick have the show knees? Or

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<v Speaker 1>was it Scott that had the show knees? That closed up?

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<v Speaker 1>They could always bring that up and oh and I forgot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well Scott is persona on gratta right. That's why one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons he can't be a Steiner is because

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<v Speaker 1>of Scott Steiner. Is his picture still up at live

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<v Speaker 1>events saying don't let this man in, say look at this.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's making fun of the name braun Breaker. But as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as I told that story, they were like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>what a name? Brick Breaker. It's not bad, is it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what they're saying. Yeah, they are. They're all

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<v Speaker 1>like brick Breaker. They're all excited about the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>brick Breaker. No, you are really just trying, Am I wrong? Everybody?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that not an awesome name? Brick Breaker? You're losing

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<v Speaker 1>your mind to try to defend this show and why

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching it and trying to get people on board

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<v Speaker 1>to watch this show. Dude, I'm not telling anybody to

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<v Speaker 1>watch this show. I'm not that excited, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited because I can walk on the treadmill while

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<v Speaker 1>I watch it and get in shape. Oh you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the peloton yet? No, kid me, I'm old. Why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you just walk outside? I do walk outside like

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<v Speaker 1>probably eight months out of the year. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>are here, Mike, you ain't gonna be walking outside either. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>gale force wins and it's forty five, so it's you

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<v Speaker 1>may as well just like you knows on ice like

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<v Speaker 1>a cartoon and jump into the icy water. I'd rather

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<v Speaker 1>walk indoors where it's warm, man, Are you kidding? The

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<v Speaker 1>NFL guys pay a lot of money to have somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to attach a parachute to their backs talking about the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>If you had better cardio, maybe you wouldn't have gassed

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<v Speaker 1>out so many times with Filthy and ended up making

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<v Speaker 1>yourself as the worst tag team of all time. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't gas out with Filthy one time, not a single time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not my fault. Was a horrible partner. He matches.

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<v Speaker 1>I won without Filthy. Do you realize? Do you realize

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<v Speaker 1>that I beat Marco stunt Clean in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the ring with a super kicks You ever heard of

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Christofferson? My my mother's on her favorite artist, Chris Christofferson.

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<v Speaker 1>I beat his giant son, and his son's a giant kick.

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<v Speaker 1>That guy right in the job pinned him in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the ring. So what can I do? Nothing? Nothing?

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<v Speaker 1>And he was a useless partner. And I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>with all due respect. Are you saying he was a

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<v Speaker 1>big sack of you know what? You can't say that

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<v Speaker 1>it was a useless partner, But you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>was a useless partner to him as well. We were

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<v Speaker 1>both useless. Otherwise we would have won something. We couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>beat the Rock and Roll Express. They're in their sixties.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine can you imagine who took the who

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<v Speaker 1>was looking at the lights in that match? Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>was because tom was doing whatever, he was a legal man.

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<v Speaker 1>I took the pin for him. I lost for him.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't for me. He would have lost. You never

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<v Speaker 1>really lost to the Rock and Roll Express because Tommy was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was. It was unfair and everything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, we didn't win. I mean, you could

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<v Speaker 1>say we didn't lose, that's fine, but the fact of

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<v Speaker 1>the matter is we didn't win. It's all about winning

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<v Speaker 1>in this wrestling game. Back in a moment, it was

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<v Speaker 1>ever live to think I spent all that time wasting

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<v Speaker 1>time talking about my career, and I realized we forgot

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about Raw. But you know, it's fitting because

0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I wasted less time talking about my career than Raw

0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:34.080
<v Speaker 1>wasted last night. The show wasn't bad, but I swear

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<v Speaker 1>to god, this was at best a ninety minute show

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<v Speaker 1>that they found a way to stretch out to three hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Was nothing on this show. So it opens up with

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<v Speaker 1>this long segment with riddle in order in the Street Profits,

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<v Speaker 1>which then leads to entrances for an eight man, which

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<v Speaker 1>then leads to a twenty two minute match, which then

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<v Speaker 1>leads to the post match. The first forty minutes of

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 1>this show was centered around a j Omas Ziggler and

0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Rude versus the street prophets Randy Orton and Riddle. Well

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:12.360
<v Speaker 1>don't forget Ko and seth Rawlins as well too. Well

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:15.119
<v Speaker 1>that's that's that was only like ten seconds. I'm talking

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 1>like they spent forty minutes. Now. We had a lot

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:24.440
<v Speaker 1>of great workers in this match, so I mean in

0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:26.880
<v Speaker 1>aj Styles is back after being gone for two weeks

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:31.120
<v Speaker 1>with no explanation. So the match was was hit and missed.

0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:32.920
<v Speaker 1>There was a lot of good stuff, but then you

0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:37.560
<v Speaker 1>know they're taken Omas and this guy is God bless him.

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:41.679
<v Speaker 1>He is horrible. And the thing that irritates me is

0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:44.679
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have to be because all you have to

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:46.360
<v Speaker 1>do is get him in there to be a giant,

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't want to say it's not that hard,

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:52.119
<v Speaker 1>but you know it's easier than running around really fast

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 1>and trying to do karate and all this other crap

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 1>they're having him do. Just be a giant that stands

0:25:56.840 --> 0:26:00.480
<v Speaker 1>there and runs people over and destroys them. Oh, he's

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:04.200
<v Speaker 1>got to do spinning kicks and they all look horrible

0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 1>and he's like seven ft tall, he still can't kick

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:10.440
<v Speaker 1>above these people's chests. It's a disaster. So then finally

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:13.960
<v Speaker 1>at the end there's this big Shamas and the teams

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 1>start fighting each other because we've got Survivor series coming up,

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 1>rob Versus SmackDown, and the storyline is everybody and every

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:24.880
<v Speaker 1>team hates each other. How could you possibly care about

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Survivor series? So anyway, in the middle of all the Shamas,

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:32.200
<v Speaker 1>poor Riddle gets hit with the tree slam and then

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:34.639
<v Speaker 1>he's down for like five minutes while they do all

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>their spots, just laying in the middle of the ring,

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:40.159
<v Speaker 1>and then finally Ziggler goes in there and pins his

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:43.239
<v Speaker 1>dead body. I mean, he's been down forever, and then

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Orton lays him out with the r k oh after

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.879
<v Speaker 1>the match, so forty minutes right there, we had a

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 1>show long segment with Kevin Owens going around and asking

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:54.200
<v Speaker 1>all the baby Faces if they trusted him, and they're

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:56.959
<v Speaker 1>all kind of iffy about it. We had the announcement

0:26:57.760 --> 0:27:01.920
<v Speaker 1>that Adam Pierce the GM who now we're going from

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:04.640
<v Speaker 1>baby Face GMS to Hell GMS. Him and Sonya both

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:09.199
<v Speaker 1>going hell. He says on Saturday, they announced all of

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 1>the teams for ROBERSUS SmackDown, and I was disgusted that

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:16.639
<v Speaker 1>Dominic was put on that team because everybody is a

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 1>former champion except Dominic. If you know what, Dominic, if

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>you don't lose tonight, you can keep your spot on

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:29.160
<v Speaker 1>the team. So his opponent is Bobby Lashlely. Bobby Lashly

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:32.679
<v Speaker 1>kills this kid, makes him look like a geek. And

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.439
<v Speaker 1>then they announced that now this geek is off the

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 1>team and Lashly is on the team, which, by the way,

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:40.600
<v Speaker 1>led to a segment later where raised furious and he's like, bro,

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 1>if you don't want the guy on the team, don't

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:43.399
<v Speaker 1>you put him on the team for the first place,

0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 1>like when she just put Lashly in. And if you

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:47.920
<v Speaker 1>think I screwed up that line, you sure. Poor Ray

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Ray could not get this promo out. But at least

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 1>he was supposed to be so angry. That made sense.

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:55.199
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, they made Dominic look like a geek and

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Pierce's going heel, and as was written on the front

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:04.080
<v Speaker 1>age report for the show, Dominic looked like a feeble loser.

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I could not have said it better myself. That's how

0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:10.160
<v Speaker 1>they try to make baby faces, by the way, and

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 1>make sure you highlight that line to say it again.

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Adam Pierce is going, Hell, that's what we need. Yeah,

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Adam Pierce is all upset about about the teams because

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:23.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, I guess he wants to raw to win,

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 1>even though he's the GM of both brands. Like, what

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:31.119
<v Speaker 1>in the hell difference does it make who wins brand

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 1>versus brand when you're the GM of both brands. No,

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.119
<v Speaker 1>this stuff makes any sense. But we have to do

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 1>it every year because it's their goofy Halloween, Thanksgiving, whatever

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 1>tradition whatever, whatever Sonya was, Holidays and in whatever that

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>month is, Sonia wasn't enough Sonia working angles would Naomi

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>that they don't really pay off. That's not enough. We

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 1>have to have Adam Pierce be a heel idiot GM

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 1>two like they He and Paul Hayman were the only

0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 1>non wrestlers, and there's early any wrestlers to take seriously,

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 1>but like, at least he had something built up with

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Adam Pierce where there was some credibility to this guy.

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Now there's just none because you're an idiot, you're a goof.

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>You find brock Lesner a million bucks or whatever it

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 1>was okay, fine, you know that was cornball. It's something

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 1>they want him to do, and he did a good

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>job carrying it out. And then you bring him back

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 1>to say, hey, we made these teams up, and we

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>were burying the fact that, you know, we advertise these

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 1>on on Twitter. If that was a decision made by him,

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 1>he's an idiot as well too. But we go ahead

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 1>and we post these on social media. I made the teams.

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm really embarrassed about putting you on there, and

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>we can't take care of this before the show starts.

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 1>We have to come out here and I need to

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 1>call you out to the middle of the ring to

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>disappoint you, to insult your son right in front of

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 1>your face, and then have Bobby Lashly come down and

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 1>kill your son in front of his face. This is dumb.

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 1>It was just dumb. His heat just heat, dude, like

0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 1>do drop heat? Big like SHOTSI heat. Biggie beat Chad

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Gable in a non title match. The wrestling was good.

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 1>It was five minutes. We had Sony de Ville back stage.

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 1>She's I guess maybe she made these teams. It's Carmela's

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Lena Rhea Live and Bianca a bunch of other women

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>show up. They're all angry that they're not on the team,

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 1>including by the way, Nikki ash who was one half

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 1>of the Tag Team Champions. She can't get on this team.

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, it's announced that the team members. As a

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 1>way to get these team members ready to fight for

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the Raw brand, We're gonna put him in a five

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>way where they'll fight each other tonight. Alright, whatever, we

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>couldn't get Becky and Nicky Ash over to UH to

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>the UK for the No, they had to be here

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 1>for Raw. We had Drake Maverick versus Reggie in seven

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>title match in the ring ends up with all the

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Geeks running down distraction. Drake Maverick wins the title. A

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Kira pins Drake Maverick, Corey Graves pins Ozawa, Byron Saxton

0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:01.479
<v Speaker 1>pins Graves, Drake Maverick pins Saxon, Reggie pins Drake Maverick.

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>He runs off with the belt. So now until the

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 1>end of time we have to hear Byron Saxon bragging

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 1>that he pinned the Corey Graves fatal five way Live

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Carmela Zelina, Biancan Rea Ripley. Between the video packages, the commercials,

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the ring entrances for all of the women, the post match,

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:26.040
<v Speaker 1>the pre match, the sixteen minute match itself, another thirty

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 1>five minutes of television time for this match, and depending

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>on who was in it was hit or miss. And

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>finally Carmela went for a pin but she got cradled

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 1>crucifix pin by Morrigan. Live Morgan winds now, it'll be

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Live Morrigan versus Becky Lynch at some point down the road,

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 1>which assuredly Live Morgan will be losing. Well, I apologize, Andy.

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Becky Lynch stands out there too. Apparently she was over

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:57.239
<v Speaker 1>on that tour, so well she was, but then they

0:31:57.240 --> 0:32:01.560
<v Speaker 1>brought her back for this so then so then in

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>another segment that between commercials, video packages, interview segments, the

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:11.719
<v Speaker 1>ring announcements, the ring introductions, whatever. When they walk down

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 1>to the ring, another thirty five minutes segment, it is

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 1>seth Rawlins versus Kevin Owens. They wrestled for twenty three minutes.

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>They all fall out of the ring. Kevin Owens bunks

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 1>into Biggie. Kevin Owens can't make it back in. He

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 1>has counted out of the ring. Twenty three minutes and

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 1>forty six seconds for a count out and then Kevin

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Owens flips his lid and he destroys Big E and

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>that's how the show goes off the year. Yes, I

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>said the show wasn't that bad. It was better than

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>it sounds because the people they were actually wrestling for

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 1>twenty three minutes. I mean, the wrestling was good, but

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 1>if you're looking at storylines and logic and build the

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Survivor series, it flat out sucked. But if you're a

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>fan of the wrestlers wrestling in the ring and giving it,

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>they're all the show was good. So there you go.

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Take your pick. I think a lot of these these

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>w wly fans, they really don't think what I'm saying.

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 1>They just watched the guys doing flips and moves because

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 1>they thought about it. They couldn't possibly like it. It's like,

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how they could, but it's they don't

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>think about this stuff. I guess I don't know. Here's

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>the one thing I know is Kevin Owens has been

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 1>getting screwed over by Roman Reigns since what last year,

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 1>So he began his year getting screwed over by Roman Reigns,

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>and he and Biggie teamed up all summer long, all

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 1>summer long, he teamed up with Biggie, was involved with

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 1>things and you know, against Sammy Zane and whoever it

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:47.479
<v Speaker 1>would be, Baron Corbyn or what. So all of a

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 1>sudden now, well not last week, Kevin Owens has to

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 1>play like he doesn't see seth Rawlins hitting Biggie and

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>but he does is and Big he knows that. He

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>apologizes afterward that Biggie is treating him like trash because

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 1>now we're going to retrofit a story where well Kevin Owens,

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:11.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, none of his partners like him, he turns

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:15.359
<v Speaker 1>on everybody's a miserable guy. And yeah, that that was

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of the case. But how they set this whole

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 1>thing up, Like at no point do I feel like

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:25.359
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Owens did something wrong here? You know, yes he

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 1>saw and this was an issue again, talked about it

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 1>last week. The referee should have been blocking his view,

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>but that didn't happen. So they go and they do this.

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>It's just it was a cheap way to get to

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Owens getting heat and turning on Big Ee like

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:42.800
<v Speaker 1>they need more heels and like they need less heroes.

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I just everything about it has sucked and has fallen

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 1>flat for me, and I just think it's it's to me,

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:53.320
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a waste. The big ee Kevin Owens,

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:55.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, them in the ring with each other, ought

0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 1>to be great, you know for sure, And maybe this

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:01.839
<v Speaker 1>is Kevin Owens isl hurrah. I don't know what it is,

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 1>but to me, the whole thing has fallen flat from

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Jump Street last week to how the whole thing played

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 1>out looking so stupid, where everybody looked stupid and now

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 1>all the baby faces look like jerks. Sure, Ray Mysterio

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 1>had to deal with what Adam Pierce was doing, but

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 1>he still blew off Kevin Owens and may again everything.

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:24.840
<v Speaker 1>To me, I had more sympathy for Kevin Owens in

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 1>a way coming out of this thing, because if you're

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:30.759
<v Speaker 1>just watching the last two episodes of this show and

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 1>you're seeing this, how is Kevin Owens the bad guy?

0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:35.759
<v Speaker 1>Why is he a terrible person? You know? All of

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, now we're we're retro doing this. Any good

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:41.359
<v Speaker 1>faith he has built up, any good faith he had

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>on SmackDown, which is a show that people are supposed

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:46.800
<v Speaker 1>to be watching too, all of that just goes away.

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Why Because Seth Rollins is a master manipulator. He's a

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 1>douche who came out on the show. It said, Kevin,

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:56.319
<v Speaker 1>nobody likes you, and then the whole show nobody likes him.

0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 1>So is Seth Rollins the baby face here for telling

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the truth. It's just the whole thing sucks. I'm sorry,

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's weak and it and it sucks. And

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I know something, Well, what about this on a W?

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't care about what's on a W that also

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:12.319
<v Speaker 1>sucks or a new Japan that also sucks. This is

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:14.640
<v Speaker 1>not a very effective story to me at all, and

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't have me hooked. And it's supposed to be

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 1>their main event story and it's fallen absolutely flat. And oh,

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 1>by the way, isn't bigg He's supposed to be facing

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Roman Rain soon. Bro. This person here says, why would

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:29.839
<v Speaker 1>Adam Pierce care about whether Raw wins or not when

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 1>he's a GM of both shows? All of these questions,

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 1>it's all the same thing. Why do we have a

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 1>survivor series? And why do we have a brand split?

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I would be fine with a brand split if like

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:42.280
<v Speaker 1>all of your storylines made sense, Like if it really

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:45.000
<v Speaker 1>was the one time of year that the Ron SmackDown

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 1>wrestlers faced each other. But it's not We just did

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 1>a draft. Literally the entire Raw team, we're all on SmackDown.

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:56.879
<v Speaker 1>They were loyal to SmackDown for a year, They've been

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:58.719
<v Speaker 1>on Raw for a week, and now they have to

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<v Speaker 1>fight for a with a GM who seems to care

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<v Speaker 1>whether one side or the other wins, even though he's

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<v Speaker 1>a GM of both shows. I mean, it's not hard

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<v Speaker 1>to do this, but it's just it's it's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you. I'm telling you these people, these fans, they

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<v Speaker 1>are happy. I'm not saying they're dumb, but I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>they're happy. Not thinking about it the vacuum. You tell

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<v Speaker 1>me what is going on, and I'm gonna go along

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<v Speaker 1>with it. It doesn't it doesn't make sense, Well, who cares?

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<v Speaker 1>I just won't think about it. Then I will. I

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<v Speaker 1>will listen to Adam Pierce caring which side wins, and

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<v Speaker 1>I won't think for two seconds. Why the GM of

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<v Speaker 1>both shows would want one team to win over the

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<v Speaker 1>other team doesn't make any sense. But you just watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>You watch your stars, you look at their pretty bodies,

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<v Speaker 1>you watch their moves, and then you're ready for the

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<v Speaker 1>next show. Back in a moment was you were alive.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I can talk about this for hours. We

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<v Speaker 1>only have two minutes. This person here in the chat goes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a show for children. And the funny thing is

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<v Speaker 1>w w E. I know people watch w w and

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<v Speaker 1>they think this shows for children. But the fact of

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<v Speaker 1>the matter is children don't watch this show. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched Haven for quite some time. I watch what

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<v Speaker 1>children watch because I have a five year old and

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<v Speaker 1>all of these shows that have like you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>p J Masks or Frozen or any of these other

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<v Speaker 1>things that she watches. It's like, you know, there are

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<v Speaker 1>heroes you can get behind and their villains and their

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<v Speaker 1>their stories that actually are simple and makes sense, and like,

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<v Speaker 1>none of these things apply to w w E. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not a show for children. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>this show is for. But you can look at the

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<v Speaker 1>demos and children don't watch the show. This show that

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<v Speaker 1>you think is written for children and young people only

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<v Speaker 1>attracts old people. So what it is actually is a

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<v Speaker 1>show four old people. Why the old people watch it?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any idea, but the idea that like

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<v Speaker 1>little kids are watching this, they don't watch this. They

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<v Speaker 1>watched it in the nineties, but they don't watch it today.

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<v Speaker 1>And well, I know how to get the young kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at these young girls. Oh that that's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to fire up the over crowd, is it. My daughter

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<v Speaker 1>has this book about red foxes. She's five, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Red Fox and we read this book every night, and

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<v Speaker 1>it has these facts about foxes. And one of the

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<v Speaker 1>facts is a a red fox has a white tip

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of its tail, black tips on its ears,

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<v Speaker 1>and black legs. But it says this, and next to

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<v Speaker 1>it is a picture of a red fox with red legs.

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<v Speaker 1>And Paisley cannot get past this. She's like, why does

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<v Speaker 1>that fox have red legs? Of the book says that

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<v Speaker 1>they all have black leggs. So like people to think

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<v Speaker 1>that kids don't think, or that it doesn't matter if

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<v Speaker 1>the stories makes sense or anything like that. Bro it

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<v Speaker 1>matters as much or more to little kids. Clearly, if

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<v Speaker 1>you watch the numbers for this show and who this

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<v Speaker 1>show attracts, we're out of time. Thanks Mike has always

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<v Speaker 1>callers and listener to the studio. We'll talk to you

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<v Speaker 1>next time. Observer Live. You have been listening to the

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