1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: Welcome in. Second hour of The Clay Travis and Buck 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: Sexton Show begins right now. Thank you for being here 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: with us. You may have seen the news over the 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: weekend of a mass shooting in Cleveland, Texas. As we 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: speak to you right now, the individual who allegedly murdered 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: five people, including a small child, is still on the run. 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: Authorities are trying to find him, they're asking for help. 10 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: As of two hours ago, the New York Times reporting 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 2: that they have no leads on this issue. Also interesting 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: to see that there is no mention in this New 13 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: York Times piece. And you've seen this a lot over 14 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: the week, and I am sure there's no mention of 15 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: the fact that the individual here is the alleged mass 16 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: murderer now is an illegal immigrant. And now I understand 17 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: that there are going to be people who start to 18 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: look at all of the different categorizations for mass shootings, 19 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: and they're going to look at the data and they're 20 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: going to come to they're going to bring different conclusions 21 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,639 Speaker 2: to this conversation. Let me just say this, it's also 22 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: believed that this individual is somebody who has come in 23 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: and out of the country five times illegally, was what 24 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: I saw of the weekend. Assuming that they have the 25 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: right individual in mind. Here, we have a poorous border. 26 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: We have somebody who's in illegal, who should not have 27 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: been in the United States under US law period. Not 28 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: an asylum seeker. He's not even trying to gain the 29 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: process in some way. Just the backstory, and this, by 30 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: the way I would is that he was shooting a 31 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: gun in his yard. The neighbor. Neighbor came over and said, 32 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: can you please stop shooting the gun? We have a 33 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: baby here that's trying to sleep. It was eleven o'clock 34 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: at night. And he grabbed the individual here or a pace, 35 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: grabbed his rifle and then went and tried to murder 36 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: the entire family. Essential it's as horrific a case as 37 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: you can read about. And Clay here, I just wanted 38 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: to make sure I confirm this. They're looking for this 39 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: illegal alien. The New York Times doesn't even reference the 40 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: fact that he's an illegal, no description of that whatsoever 41 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: in their most recent update of this. The Daily Mail, 42 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: a British newspaper, puts out that there's a manhunt for 43 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 2: an illegal alien. They kept calling him over the weekend 44 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: Texas man. That's how he's being described, Texasman. No, he's 45 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: actually a Mexican national. He is not an American, and 46 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: he is not in the country legally, and he is 47 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: not a Texas man. He is an illegal in the 48 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: state of Texas. And he killed five people. And what 49 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: we find out is that he has been deported they 50 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: believe five times already. So now, why is this No, 51 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 2: this is a horrific mass shooting. Obviously, that's why first 52 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: and foremost you're seeing this in the news stories. But 53 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: why is this so noteworthy? I think from a policy standpoint. 54 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 2: First of all, Mayorcist, they head of DHS, was asked 55 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: about this yesterday. This is clip five. Play this. 56 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: There's some question about a citizenship. He supposedly had a 57 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: I guess they referred to it as a consulate card 58 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: from Mexico, meaning he was here legally but perhaps the overstate. 59 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 4: So, Chuck, I won't comment on it because it is 60 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 4: an active case. 61 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: Notice that Chuck Todd first goes out he's here legally. No, 62 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: that is incorrect, Chuck. If you have a visa to 63 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: be here for a couple of weeks or whatever, and 64 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: you stay, you are in illegal. It's not old. But 65 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: I used to be legal for a day. No, and 66 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: then beyond this, Clay majorcas was asked about whether the 67 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: border is secure, and this is what I really want 68 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: to hone in on play clip six. 69 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 3: What's the definition of a secure border? 70 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: To you? 71 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 4: It is in the context in which we are working. 72 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: It is maximizing the resources that we have available to 73 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 4: us to deliver the most effective results. 74 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: That is not the definition of a secure border, right. 75 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: I mean this is like saying, what's the definition of, 76 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: you know, of building a house. Well, it's gathering together 77 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: people and having a discussion about how a house, how 78 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: a house might be built. Like, that's not the definition 79 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: of But I would just add he's been deported already. 80 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 2: They think five times, Clay, Now, how can anyone talk 81 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: about a border that is not an abject joke under 82 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: this administration When you've got a guy who's been deported 83 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: five times, who murders five people. 84 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 5: According to Bill Malugin, to your point, he was deported 85 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 5: March of two thousand and nine, September of two thousand 86 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 5: and nine, in January twenty twelve, July twenty sixteen, and 87 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 5: he was arrested and convicted for a dui in twenty twelve. 88 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 5: And building on this even more, our friend Chip Roy 89 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 5: says two hundred and sixty one thousand illegal immigrants have 90 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 5: committed four hundred and thirty thousand crimes, including eight hundred homicides, 91 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 5: eight hundred kidnappings, five thousand assaults in the last decade 92 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 5: in Texas alone. Now, all of those data points are important, 93 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 5: but for people out there who say, well, there's massive crime, 94 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 5: because this is the counter right, there's massive crime, and 95 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 5: most of the time illegal immigrants aren't committing crime. That's 96 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 5: the counter argument. Okay, But the mere fact that these 97 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 5: illegal immigrants are here at all is a crime. If 98 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 5: that initial crime had been rectified, that is, if they 99 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 5: were not permitted to be illegal in this country. There 100 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 5: are thousands of people all over the country that would 101 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 5: still be alive if they hadn't been killed by illegal immigrants. 102 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 5: So the rate of crime doesn't matter to me when 103 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 5: you want to make that argument. It is the fact 104 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 5: that these people should not be here at all in 105 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 5: the first place. And you played that clipbuck of mayorcis 106 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 5: if this were a I hate to keep hammering this home. 107 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 5: But in the same way that we still don't have 108 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 5: all the transgender manifesto in Nashville. 109 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 2: We don't have any of it, right, I mean, they 110 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: still are totally withholding it. 111 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 5: It's still totally withholding it. I believe it's been thirty 112 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 5: five days now. Today is the thirty fifth day since 113 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 5: that shooting would have happened, if my math is correct, 114 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 5: and I think it is thirty five days. Yet merror 115 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 5: hours after anybody on the right commits a crime of violence, 116 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 5: we know everything about them and it is directly attributable 117 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 5: to their political beliefs that this act was undertaken. So 118 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 5: the fact that this illegal who had been deported five times, 119 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 5: how many times do you think that means that he's 120 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 5: cane back and forth between Mexico and the United States, 121 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 5: bought carrying if he's a criminal, who knows how many 122 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 5: different illicit substances over those decades of crossings. 123 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: Just just remember this as you know, some of you 124 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: are going to be getting, you know, audit notices from 125 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: the IRS this year. Unfortunately, you know, they've got all 126 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: this additional IRS manpower now that the bid administration's been 127 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: pushing for. Just remember this that there's laws actually here 128 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: that we're clearly not enforced against this individual. If you 129 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: have been deported and you are caught in the US 130 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: again illegally a second time, it is a felony. But 131 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: they just decide they're not going to charge it as 132 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: a felony because it's a federal it's a federal crime. 133 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: The federal prosecutors can say, oh, okay, well, we don't 134 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: want to do it that way. You know, we don't 135 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: want to crowd the prisons or whatever it is about 136 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: the incentive structure or for people to obey our laws 137 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: or not. Now, this is a situation where you'd say, 138 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: if they were willing to enforce the law, and if 139 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: they were willing to say, charge him with a felony 140 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: for a second aggravated violation of immigration laws, maybe these 141 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: five individuals will be alive today. And this is where 142 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,239 Speaker 2: we really are. I mean, you know, the Democrats always 143 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: take this position of when it suits them, if it 144 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: could save one life, you know, if it can save 145 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: one life. 146 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 6: Let's have you know, thirty day waiting periods for guns 147 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 6: and fingerprinting, and you know they're just you know, yeah, 148 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 6: you got to have like a special lock on the trigger, 149 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 6: all the time, whatever, endless harassment for people that have 150 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 6: to you know, are going to obey laws because of 151 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 6: law abiding. 152 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: Of course, criminals willbey none of this and laugh at 153 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: the stupidity of it. But why should we think that 154 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 2: we are in a country where the rule of law 155 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 2: is taken seriously if the rule of law or southern 156 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: border is such a joke, which is obviously the case. 157 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: I mean, mayorc is even saying the border's secure means 158 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: using the best resources you have. I mean, it was 159 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 2: just it sounded like an answer that Kamala Harris would give. 160 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: It just made no sense. It was just words strung together. 161 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 5: And as the rate of violent crime continues, it's a 162 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 5: really I think important point to hammer home. This is 163 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 5: one that everybody's just going to ignore. Well, if immigrants 164 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 5: illegally are arriving in our country and creating more and 165 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 5: more violence, which they are, even if statistically they are 166 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 5: arguing that they aren't the cause of the violence. If 167 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 5: the goal is to go after violence everywhere, why aren't 168 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 5: we trying to solve it? And I wanted to even 169 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 5: tie in here Buck with this. Lori Lightfoot, who has 170 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 5: been defeated as the incumbent mayor of Chicago is basically 171 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 5: waving the white flag over how many different people now 172 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 5: are being sent from Texas to Chicago. Did you see this? 173 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 5: She says, they can't handle it anymore. 174 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 2: The mayor of New York. That's right, I guess. I 175 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: guess they're anti Hispanic racists, is really what we're seeing here, 176 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: because that's what we're always told when we say, hold on, 177 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 2: we need a secure border, it's you have some animosity 178 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: toward the Hispanic community. So Lori Lightfoot and the current 179 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: Mayor Eric Adams of New York must have that animosity, 180 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: because otherwise makes no sense unless maybe something else is 181 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 2: going on here. Clay, no doubt, and it's and it 182 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: didn't take very many remember a tiny pinprick of the 183 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: illegal immigrants being spent sent to New York City, Washington, 184 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: d C. And now Chicago. 185 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 5: All three of those mayors have effectively tapped out and 186 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 5: said we can't handle this. Listen to Lori Lightfoot saying 187 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 5: we're completely tapped out, we can't handle any more illegal immigrants. 188 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 7: Cut I felt like it was important to once again 189 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 7: try to engage the governor but also let him know 190 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 7: what his policies and practices are doing. In cities like Chicago. 191 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 7: We are completely tapped out. We have no more space, 192 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 7: no more resources, and frankly, we're already in a surge. 193 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 7: We've been seeing over last week two to three, two 194 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 7: to one hundred plus people coming to Chicago every single day. 195 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 7: We call them walk ins because they're not coming on buses, 196 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 7: but they are coming on planes from San Antonio. And 197 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 7: we're very concerned because they don't seem like they're getting 198 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 7: screen at the border. We've seen people coming with serious 199 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 7: medical issues. 200 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: Clay hold on a second. Shouldn't shouldn't America? I mean, 201 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 2: this is the Democrat position. If you're a good person, 202 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: your position as a Democrat who wants to be in 203 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 2: good standing these days must be that we don't check anybody. 204 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: Anybody can come here for any reason whatsoever, and we 205 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: owe to them free housing, free food, free healthcare. If 206 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: all of the world's you know, heart surgery patients want 207 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: to show up in America and demand taxpayer funded cardiac surgery, 208 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 2: to not give them that is racist. I just I 209 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: think everyone needs to understand this is where we're actually 210 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: seeing the rubber meet the road. 211 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 5: Not only that, how about blaming the governor of a 212 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 5: state for immigration related issues and not the president of 213 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 5: the United States. I mean, greg Abbott doesn't have control 214 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 5: of the entire southern border. Greg Abbott isn't in control 215 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 5: of the entire federal government apparatus. Note what's going on here. 216 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 5: It's Greg Abbott's fault that too many illegal immigrants are 217 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 5: coming to coming to Chicago. So does Lori Lightfoot want 218 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 5: greg Abbott to call out the entire Texas National Guard 219 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 5: to the extent that they exist, or State Guard or 220 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 5: whatever he can and put him at the border. 221 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: I just think that that Lori Lightfoot's xenophobia here is 222 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: really something we need to startrageous, really outrageous xenophobia from 223 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: Lori Lightfoot of Chicago and Eric Adams of New York, 224 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 2: who have both said stop sending all of these poor 225 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: migrants to us. We can't afford to pay for all 226 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: their stuff anymore. I'm sorry. I thought we were a 227 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: nation of immigrants. I thought we cared about you know, 228 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: what about the poem on the Statue of Liberty? Oh 229 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 2: you mean that Actually all that stuff they say is 230 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: just virtue signaling, and they hope that people are too 231 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 2: dumb to notice what's really happening in the country. Yeah, 232 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: that's actually, that's actually what they've been hoping. But now 233 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: and they have to pay for it when it's dollars 234 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 2: and cents its state. 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Clay Travis and Buck 263 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: Sexton Welcome. 264 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 5: Back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of 265 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,359 Speaker 5: you hanging out with us. Encourage you to go subscribe 266 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 5: to the podcast. Make sure or that you don't miss 267 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 5: a single moment. Also, you can find us on YouTube. 268 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 5: And I can't impress upon you enough how much your 269 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 5: kids and grandkids are probably spending time on YouTube, and 270 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 5: that is one of the best ways that you can 271 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 5: reach your kids and your grandkids. If you want to 272 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 5: share moments with us A moment with the show with them, Buck, 273 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 5: I'm kind of stunned that we're not having more discussion 274 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 5: about this. We have had in the last six weeks 275 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 5: three of the biggest bank collapses in the history of 276 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 5: the United States, and I just want to hit you 277 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 5: with this. First Republic Bank, Silicon Valley Bank, and Signature 278 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 5: Bank all have collapsed in the last six weeks. 279 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: Buck. 280 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 5: That is three of the four biggest bank collapses in 281 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 5: the history of the United States, and they've happened in 282 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 5: six weeks. And I feel like almost zero media discussion. 283 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 5: Do you kind of feel like I mean, that to 284 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 5: me is crazy that we could have three of the 285 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 5: four biggest bank collapses in United States history and hardly 286 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 5: anybody's even talking about it. 287 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: Clay, It's all fine. Biden is in charge, and Janet 288 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 2: Yellen has got this kidding every how. I mean, look, 289 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: I don't know how this could be anything other than 290 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: the slow descent into the recession and reset that so 291 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: many of us have been expecting all along here. And 292 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: this is really a function of overspending, creating inflation, trying 293 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: to tame inflation, banks getting on the wrong side of rates. 294 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: None of this is Oh my gosh, how could this 295 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: have happened. This has all happened exactly the way that 296 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: people who were trying to warn about how it would 297 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: happen said it would happen. And yet we sit here 298 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: and everyone's like, oh, wow, you mean you mean banks 299 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: will do reckless things when they have to chase profits 300 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: and they think the federal government will bail them out. Yeah, 301 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: that has not changed at all. No one knows what's 302 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: on the balance sheets of these banks, by the way, 303 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 2: Clay other than the people, you know, the board and 304 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: the CEO, et cetera. But we have no idea. 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Wade was absurd and obtuse law. I mean, 341 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 2: it just made no sense whatsoever. But they wanted it, 342 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: and so they created something a fabrication. And you're seeing, 343 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: by the way, there's a lot of that going on 344 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 2: these days. You know, men can get pregnant, they'll just 345 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 2: say things that we all know are untrue. But if 346 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: they have the power to enforce it, they will do it. 347 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: But the leak of the Supreme Court decision was a 348 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: massive breach of trust and faith from within the Supreme Court. 349 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 2: And it's interesting that over the weekend, Justice Samuel Alito, 350 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 2: I guess this was on Friday Thursday or Friday, Justice 351 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 2: Samuel Alito sat down with the Wall Street Journal. The 352 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: headline that I think really gets right to it is 353 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 2: that the leak quote made us targets of assassination. This 354 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: is Justice Alito, who was the lead author on the 355 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 2: Dobbs decision. And two things that come out of this. 356 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: One is Alito is absolutely certain that what we told 357 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: you here on this show what had happened, and all 358 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: of you knew, but people were trying different theories or 359 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: whatever to try to muddy up the waters a little bit. 360 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: This was done to pressure Supreme Court justices to change 361 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: an impending decision with massive consequences for the nation. This 362 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 2: was an enormous, an enormous assault on what, in many 363 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 2: ways feels like a last line of a line of 364 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 2: last resort institution. Right. You're if everything goes to hell, 365 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 2: you feel like, well, maybe the Supreme Court can keep 366 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: us from going completely insane as a nation. Now, that 367 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: probably puts too much on the court, but that's how 368 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 2: a lot of people feel about it. So Alito Clay 369 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: absolutely certain that the leak was done to put pressure, 370 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: and by pressure he means lunatics might come after us, 371 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: and so maybe we change our minds because we're scared. 372 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: That's and as we know, there was a guy who 373 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: said I'm gonna go kill a Supreme Court justice who 374 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: was arrested with what a goun a knife and some 375 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 2: tape or something he had. He had some weapons on him, 376 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: So that's something you have to take very seriously. He 377 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 2: also said in this that he believes that he knows 378 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 2: who leaked it? You know, man, I don't. I'll say 379 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 2: this first of all, because he knows the motive. We 380 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: know that this is, you know, without question. If he 381 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 2: thinks he knows who leaked it and he's one hundred 382 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: percent sure of the motive, I think we're quite clear 383 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: that we know that this is a leftist from within 384 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: the court, right, Okay? And then beyond that, the one 385 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: that keeps bouncing onund of my head. Do you think 386 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 2: it's crazy that one of the justices may have actually 387 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: leaked this? 388 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 5: Oh, it's such a good question. Here's the quote directly 389 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 5: from Alito. I personally have a pretty good idea who 390 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 5: is responsible, but that's different from the level of proof 391 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 5: that is needed to name somebody. I I don't because 392 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 5: he talks in this interview buck in the Wall Street 393 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 5: Journal about the fact that it harmed their working relationship 394 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 5: for about a year and that they're just now getting back. 395 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 2: To some form of normalcy. 396 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 5: So to me, I think it would be hard to 397 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 5: get back to some form of normalcy if you felt 398 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 5: like it was a it was a fellow. 399 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: Justice instead of a staffer. You think, so, you think 400 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 2: it's definitely a I mean, I think it's probably a staffer, 401 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: but I'm not. 402 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 5: I think the staffer makes sense on the context clues 403 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 5: because he said it took about a year to get 404 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 5: back to normal For people out there who don't know, 405 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 5: Supreme Court clo typically only serve one year. So if 406 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 5: this person was a clerk, which is what I've kind 407 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 5: of thought for some time on the left, in one 408 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 5: of the justices who was on the left's chambers, that 409 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 5: would in some way explain why you could feel better 410 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 5: about getting back to normalcy, because if you thought, Okay, 411 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 5: this person no longer works at the Court, maybe you 412 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 5: have a level of trust. I would also say, I 413 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 5: think it's unlikely to be a justice because there are 414 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 5: many and I understand Dobbs was a radical change in 415 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 5: terms of the Court's jurisprudence. Maybe you could say, oh, 416 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 5: this is something that would lead to a radical result. 417 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 5: I would reject that on some level because there are 418 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 5: all sorts of what I would consider to be blockbuster 419 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 5: Supreme Court cases that take place over the course of 420 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 5: the last decade or so, and there were no leaks 421 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 5: of those. So I think if it were justice, it 422 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 5: would happen more than once. 423 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: Well, I think with Roe though there. First of all, 424 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: it's a it's such a central part of the lib 425 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 2: psyche in this country and and has been something that 426 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: you know, so much propaganda has been built around, Oh, 427 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: it's the constitutional law of the land and all that stuff. 428 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 2: But even beyond that there, I don't think they're in 429 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 2: any realistic world, going to get a different result within 430 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 2: the next couple of decades on this one. So it's 431 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: a it's a long term problem for them, Whereas at 432 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 2: least with some of the other cases, they could have 433 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 2: felt like, we'll get another bite at the apple, right, 434 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 2: We'll find another way, you know, if whether it's one 435 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 2: of the huge, the biggest case. If O Berger Fella 436 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: gone in the other direction, let's just say, theoretically they 437 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 2: would have brought another case and they would have had another, 438 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: you know, another chance. Roe for them, I feel like 439 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: was they knew they were never going to get this again, 440 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: at least not any time, not anytime soon. So it 441 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: was a little bit higher, higher stakes for them. Two things, 442 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 2: I think the stakes. 443 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 5: Are still unfortunately very high because in a five to 444 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 5: four decision, which is why I said Justice Robert should 445 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 5: have joined it, there still is an incentive to kill 446 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 5: a justice, especially while Joe Biden is president and he 447 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 5: has control of the Senate. And I hate to even 448 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 5: have to mention that, but Alito hen said it and 449 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 5: talks about it, and he says, basically buck in here 450 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 5: that they have such severe protection now that they are 451 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 5: driving around basically in tanks and they're not supposed to 452 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 5: they're not supposed to go places without their security. And 453 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 5: maybe that has gone on and on, but I don't 454 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 5: remember the security being that is significant. Second part of this, 455 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 5: on the Alito, there aren't actually that many people who 456 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 5: could be suspects, and that's the part that's frustrating about 457 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 5: the court not being able to find the leaker. In theory, 458 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 5: if you are correct that it is a somebody with 459 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 5: left wing sympathies, that narrows down the last even further. 460 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 5: Let's say their buck are one hundred people who might 461 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 5: have had access to this. 462 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 2: It's probably a lot less than that, but we'll say. 463 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 5: Let's say it's a hundred, Like even a hundred is 464 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 5: a relatively if you can immediately cut almost half of 465 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 5: those people out, because the last thing they want to 466 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 5: do is put an assassination target on a conservative judge 467 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 5: that narrows it down to fifty if you then can 468 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 5: take out full time employees, because it feels to me 469 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 5: like it's unlikely to have been someone who has been 470 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 5: there for years and years again, because there have been 471 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 5: contentious cases in the past, none of this is leaked. 472 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 5: I think you end up with like fourteen clerks who 473 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 5: are effectively the targets here. And how can you not 474 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 5: narrow it down and figure out who those people are? 475 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: I got some I got some old CIA buddies who 476 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: you put them on the put them on the poll, 477 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: put them on the polygraph. You'll figure out who did what, 478 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 2: I think real fast here. If they really wanted to 479 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: know that's what they could find. They could find this 480 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 2: out pretty pretty quickly. And and I think that at 481 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: some level, even for Aldo, there may be this sense 482 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 2: of what is you know, you want justice and you 483 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 2: want it to be known, but does it also then 484 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: just take it into another realm where it's clear this 485 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: was a left wing Democrat trying to subvert and really 486 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 2: destroy the Court's legitimacy. Right, I mean a Supreme Court 487 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 2: that would change a decision based upon threats against the 488 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 2: persons in the Supreme Court. The actual justices is no 489 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 2: longer an institution that anybody would trust or have any 490 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: faith in whatsoever. Right, it's a joke at that point. 491 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a sad joke. So I just wonder 492 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: if if they really feel like I'm talking about now, 493 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: the people that work in the Supreme Court, would they 494 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 2: rather just kind of let it go at this point 495 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 2: because they don't want you know, do you think they 496 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 2: all want to know? We all know it's a Democrat. 497 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 2: We all know it's someone to voter for Joe Biden. 498 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: We all know it's a leftist. We all know it's 499 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: someone the things you should have brought babies for all 500 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 2: nine months of a pregnancy, because that's a great thing 501 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 2: to do. We all know that. But if it's a person, 502 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 2: and it's clear, and there's no more plausible deniability of 503 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: the political attempt here to encourage a hit on a 504 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: Supreme Court justice from one side of the political aisle, 505 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying, Like, I'm just not sure 506 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 2: that they all even really want to know. 507 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 5: I think we should. I think we should want to know, 508 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 5: But I'm saying I don't think they want to know, 509 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 5: even for the Court. Because we talked about it. I 510 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 5: didn't think that it was talked about enough, and Alito 511 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 5: directly addresses it. This was effectively a call to arms 512 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 5: and a suggestion that you commit an assassination. Because until 513 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 5: and this is why I said, as soon as the 514 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 5: league came out, they needed to go ahead and release 515 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 5: this opinion because until and I think a lot of 516 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 5: people still don't know this, Until the opinion is released, 517 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 5: the law doesn't change. So effectively, this leaker provided six 518 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 5: weeks for someone to try to kill a justice. And 519 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 5: if you think, oh, that's an exaggeration, somebody flew a 520 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 5: cross count, showed up outside of Brett Kavanaugh's house to 521 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 5: try to kill a justice, and unfortunately Buck that incentive 522 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 5: is still there because think about what would happen if 523 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 5: a justice got assassinated on the right in this country. 524 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 5: Joe Biden right now would get to nominate a replacement, 525 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 5: and the United States Senate would seat that replacement, presuming 526 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 5: they could somehow get Dianne Feinstein and get get her 527 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 5: back onto the onto Capitol Hill to be able to 528 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 5: push this through. So not only is there a direct 529 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 5: incentive for assassination, Democrats would benefit because you think Joe 530 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 5: Biden would say, oh, I'm going to refuse to seat someone. 531 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 5: I think he would still seat someone, and then the 532 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 5: law on Dobbs would theoretically flip back. Well, they would 533 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 5: need to have a case. They would need to have, 534 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 5: which they would easily do. I'm telling you they would 535 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 5: if I mean, if they federal law again after making 536 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 5: abortion not federal law within a couple of year. I mean, 537 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 5: you're right, they could do it, but I mean it 538 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 5: just would make this the Supreme Court looks like an 539 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 5: absolute political hatchet job at that. Do you think the 540 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 5: left would say, Nope, they would do it. Yeah, they 541 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 5: would do it. They could, I think, which is yeah, 542 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 5: which is why I hammered home. And I'm still disappointed 543 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 5: he didn't do it as soon as he knew it 544 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 5: was five to four. To me, the biggest failure of 545 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 5: John Roberts regime is he should have signed on and 546 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:22,959 Speaker 5: made it six. 547 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: Well, he's he's John Roberts has made it a point 548 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 2: to I would argue, at the expense of law, courage 549 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: and decency, protect the institution of the Supreme Court as 550 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: something that is in itself its own good right, to 551 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 2: protect the institutional integrity of the Court, and in doing 552 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: so he has actually played into left his hands and 553 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: just encourage the mob of lunatics. So yes, I think 554 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: he's I think honestly actually. 555 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 5: Done buck the opposite of what he claims by not 556 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 5: making it sixty three. Because unfortunately, the situation that I 557 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 5: just laid out killing a Supreme Court justice, replacing them 558 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 5: and immediately getting a case where you could overturn Dobbs 559 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 5: and go back to Roby Wade, I think what happen 560 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 5: Roberts has been feeding the crocodile of the left and 561 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 5: hoping it will eat him last. 562 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: And I don't know that's going to save him. I 563 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: really don't. 564 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 5: But if you truly cared about the legitimacy of the court, 565 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 5: it's the saddest and most pathetic decision of his career 566 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 5: that he didn't make at six ' three because by 567 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 5: not doing so, he actually kept the target on the 568 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 5: Supreme Court. And that's sad. But Alito's discussion really an 569 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 5: important one. I'd encourage you guys to all go read 570 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 5: that interview in the Wall Street Journal in their Weekend Conversation, 571 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 5: because I'm telling you this story, unfortunately is not going away. 572 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 5: Have you heard of Frankenstein fraud? 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Find it on the 598 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts. 599 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 5: Welcome Back in Cleo was an up second hour of 600 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 5: the program. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us 601 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 5: on the Monday edition Clay and Buck, I want to 602 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 5: make it clear to you how much the far left 603 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 5: wing is in control of the Democrat Party now. Bernie 604 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 5: Sanders not running for president basically because Joe Biden is 605 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 5: doing whatever Bernie Sanders would have done if he were president. 606 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 5: And this is a radical, crazy idea again that is 607 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 5: now very much mainstream where attacking capitalism and not understanding 608 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 5: basic business is not just a flaw of the Democrat platform, 609 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 5: it's a foundational element of the Democrat platform. Listen to 610 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 5: Bernie Sanders saying here the government should confiscate all money 611 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 5: earned over nine hundred and ninety nine million dollars. 612 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 4: Sir, you're saying that billionaire should not exist. So are 613 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 4: you basically saying that once you get to nine hundred 614 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 4: and ninety nine million dollars that the government should confiscate. 615 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 2: All the rest? 616 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 4: I'm saying that we should go back to a very 617 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 4: progressive tax policy like what we had under Dwight the Ice, 618 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 4: which would mean that over billion dollars, basically it all 619 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 4: goes to the government. 620 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: You may disagree with me, but fine, yeah, I think 621 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 2: people can make it on nine hundred, you know, ninety 622 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 2: nine million dollars. This is Look, he's such a clown 623 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 2: and the whole thing is so idiotic. First of all, 624 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 2: no one actually really paid the rate that the top 625 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 2: rate under Eisenhower. This is like not a thing that 626 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 2: even really happened to people. There's a million different ways 627 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 2: that individuals will move their income and their earnings around 628 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 2: to avoid any kind of a tax change like this. 629 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 2: And beyond that, the real issue is, you know, Bernie Sanders' 630 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: whole worldview is based on a fundamental lie. Okay, here's 631 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: the fundamental lie. If rich people who already you have clay, 632 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 2: what is it the top you know, one percent pay 633 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 2: like thirty percent or twenty five percent or something of 634 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 2: the taxes, something like that, and the top ten percent 635 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 2: pay like ninety percent of the income taxes. So I'll 636 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 2: look at the numbers. I'm trying to do this off 637 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 2: the top of my head. But the fundamental lie that 638 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders tells everybody is if only rich people paid more, 639 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 2: you'd have free health care and all the things you want. 640 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 2: And he points the countries where everybody pays about sixty 641 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 2: percent an income tax. Everybody, you're in fifty grand, you're 642 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 2: paying sixty percent. You're in twenty grand, you're paying sixty percent. 643 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 2: Because the most money actually comes from the people, not 644 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 2: the few billionaires. 645 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 5: Over half of Americans I think it's fifty two percent 646 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 5: already pay zero income tax, which is pretty wild. Again, 647 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 5: over half. But the big issue here for me, with 648 00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 5: Bernie's comments, why would anybody who has a billion dollars 649 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,479 Speaker 5: be interested buck in working hard if the government gets 650 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 5: everything else. 651 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 2: By the way, I was just to clear, I was 652 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 2: way off in the other in the in the direction 653 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 2: that I thought I wouldn't. The top one percent here 654 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 2: paid forty two percent of federal income tax in like 655 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 2: twenty twenty for example. Yeah, that's I thought. 656 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 5: It was top twenty percent, double what I thought. What 657 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 5: percentage people out there do you think understand that over 658 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 5: half of the American population doesn't pay a dollar in 659 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 5: income tax? I mean that that is, we have a 660 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 5: very progressive income tax stream. And what Democrats don't understand 661 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 5: is capitalism requires rewards. Otherwise everybody can just kick back 662 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 5: and do what democrats do, not work very hard and 663 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 5: expect everybody else to take care of them. Oh, how's 664 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 5: that working out in all the communist country A spoiler, 665 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 5: not that good.