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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Here is the percentagees Pro Football Focus fourth

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Speaker 1: and goal from the eight yard line, two minutes and

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Speaker 1: eight seconds to go, three timeouts for both teams. Packers

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Speaker 1: win probability if they go for it is eleven percent.

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Speaker 1: Packers win probability if they convert on fourth down is

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Speaker 1: thirty one percent. Packers win probability if they failed to

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Speaker 1: convert his five percent. Their win probability if they kicked

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Speaker 1: the field goal is seven percent. I would have gone

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Speaker 1: for it, and I said it in the moment. I

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Speaker 1: would have gone for it because I have Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: and this is the best red zone offense this year

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Speaker 1: that we've ever seen in the last twenty years since

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Speaker 1: they start keeping those tents. I'm going to have confidence

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Speaker 1: in him. I didn't like to play calling with first

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Speaker 1: second down, but I would have gone for it and

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Speaker 1: then taken my chance with a two point conversion. Worst

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Speaker 1: case scenario, we don't get it. I got maybe at

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Speaker 1: the five yard line, Maybe we get the ball back.

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Speaker 1: We still have to score touchdown. No matter what it

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Speaker 1: feels like. They're better scenarios going for it than not

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Speaker 1: going for it. It's the story that won't go away neither. Well,

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Speaker 1: Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co host, former NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even invite him on. He just showed up.

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Speaker 1: I just looked up and there he is, zooming in.

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Speaker 1: How long do you think we stay with the scenario

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Speaker 1: with the Packers there with two minutes to go inside

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Speaker 1: the ten. Well, I don't think it's gonna die down

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Speaker 1: this week. You know, especially with no game to look

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Speaker 1: forward to this weekend. There's gonna be two two moments

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Speaker 1: in that game that will be scrutinized. I think throughout

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Speaker 1: the week when talking heads like you and I. I mean,

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Speaker 1: first off, yes, that moment, you explained it perfectly. I thought,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you one hundred percent. I was watching the

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Speaker 1: game with my little boy, Philip, and we both looked

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Speaker 1: at each other and what they're kicking the field ball?

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Speaker 1: You know, we we were shot. I understand it's a

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Speaker 1: good Buccaneer defense. I understand they held them to a

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Speaker 1: but also remember Davante Adams dropped a touchdown pass on

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Speaker 1: the left side, and like you said, it's a great

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Speaker 1: red zone offense. And it's Aaron Rodgers and you go

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Speaker 1: down swinging with your best punches, and you know, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: Green Bay's defense is not the best punches. It's Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: That's why you were there. Yeah, I just I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to figure this out. If he knew on third down,

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Speaker 1: if you don't get it, we're kicking the field goal.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm really curious about, Chris, because he should

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Speaker 1: have known. What if he ran and they went down

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Speaker 1: to the two, are they still kicking the field goal

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Speaker 1: no matter what? Because it fields my kept to have

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Speaker 1: two plays called in that moment. Yeah, yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: think so, you know, I think he explained it pretty

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Speaker 1: good after the game, Matt Lafour and just saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: the eight yards was too much. But you know where

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Speaker 1: I would argue and go, I know it's too much. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you, as an ex quarterback, if you gave

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Speaker 1: the eight, I'd rather have him from the eight yard

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Speaker 1: line to have a little more room on the field

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Speaker 1: get that, I understand it. But I think the reasons

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Speaker 1: seen Tom Brady close out games what seven million times before? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think those two reasons alone would have made me

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. It just doesn't make any sense. I know

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Speaker 1: you and Florio talked about this today on Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Talk Live. How real is this Aaron Rodgers story or

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Speaker 1: what is real about this Aaron Rodgers story. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if there's anything real as far as like him

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Speaker 1: He's just from I'm more of the heard me if

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Speaker 1: you were watching the show today. He's frustrated. Yes, he's

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Speaker 1: sick of carrying the team. He's sick of the team

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Speaker 1: never going all in to support him. And then here

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Speaker 1: I watch a lot of the shows yesterday and it's just, oh,

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Speaker 1: he is frustrated. I expect to see him back with

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Speaker 1: just a money grab though. This is just you know what,

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Speaker 1: why don't you restructure? Could it be beneficial for both

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Speaker 1: parties here? Restructuring a deal for Rogers knowing that Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love is the quarterback in waiting, Well, that's where I

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Speaker 1: year or whatever that is, and now they're gonna go, oh,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna change to Jordan Love and do that. So

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Speaker 1: the one that dictates how this ends and when I

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Speaker 1: But still we're gonna sit here two days after the

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Speaker 1: NFC Championship game, and I'm still gonna tell you that

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love pick at the end of the first round

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Speaker 1: no other way to say it. You've got a quarterback

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Speaker 1: You go all in right now. The nineteen seventy seven

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Speaker 1: you don't. You don't need to do that. Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: think it's very real, and I do think that ultimately

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Speaker 1: he'll ask to get out of there. Okay, but what

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Speaker 1: too much for Deshaun Watson? But I mean, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: take at least three first round picks, right, I don't

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Speaker 1: We're talking about DeShawn Watson quarterback. We know that the

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Speaker 1: I know it's awesome to have DeShawn Watson and do

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Speaker 1: all that, But man, are you gonna trade the farm

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Speaker 1: I have so many damn holes on my team. How

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Speaker 1: And now you're going to trade away all these assets

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Speaker 1: a little if I'm Deshaun Watson to go to a

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Speaker 1: don't think that's necessarily appealing either. Well, if I'm the

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Speaker 1: don't know who else you could trade him too, because

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have to want to go there, so that

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Speaker 1: I would love if I trade him to the Jets.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty safe in assuming I'm gonna get some decent picks,

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Speaker 1: top fifteen picks for a couple of years. Yeah, well

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Speaker 1: you're probably right about that, yes, But the other thing is,

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Speaker 1: like you said, you're you're you're gonna get the great

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Speaker 1: it and listen. If he's willing to sign off on

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Speaker 1: a team like that, good for the Houston Texans and

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Speaker 1: you you know, you go and you run with that deal.

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Speaker 1: I really thought all along though, it would be a

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Speaker 1: whole and saying, wait, we're really close. We just need

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Speaker 1: I thought we would see more of that type of

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Speaker 1: team involved in this, maybe you like in New England,

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Speaker 1: maybe like the San Francisco forty nine ers and some

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Speaker 1: other teams like that, that to me, I felt like

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Speaker 1: fit the mold of the Deshaun Watson trade more than

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Speaker 1: you know the team that's in a total rebuild mode.

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Speaker 1: He's Chris Simms. Pro Football Talk Live co host. Former

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Speaker 1: NFL quarterback Adam Schefter had a tweet he says that

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Speaker 1: he thinks that the over under of teams changing quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: this offseason is eighteen and then he says, I'm going

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Speaker 1: with the over If we just run down the list

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Speaker 1: hit it off immediately, and it was something he told me,

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00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,959
Speaker 1: something I never had heard before, which is unbelievable this happened.

427
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: But I guess Kobe and Powe were in Barcelona at

428
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 1: the same time in the summer of two thousand and seven,

429
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: so this is the year before. I remember this is

430
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 1: the parking Lot video where Kobe, you know, cursed together

431
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: its teammates and you know, wanting wanting them to trade

432
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: Andrew Biden from Jason Kid. You remember that video. It's

433
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 1: the same summer as a parking lot video and the

434
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 1: same summer as his trade demand. And they Kobe and

435
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: his family are on vacation in Barcelona and literally Pau

436
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 1: Gasol's working out in the hotel gym down below, and

437
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 1: they like bump into each other and started talking and

438
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: talking about how great would be to play together because

439
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 1: Powe needed to leave Memphis and Kobe needed to Uh,

440
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: Kobe was not happy in La and they weren't landing,

441
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: and it was like they were like, it'd be great

442
00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 1: to play together in Powe with like havish no way

443
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: because the only way they trade me to the Lakers

444
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: is for Kobe right like that, you'd have to have

445
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: equal value. And of course Jerry West, the man you

446
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 1: the men you mentioned, was in Memphis and he was

447
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: dealing with his old protege, Mitch cup Check, and they

448
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: gone away to get that deal done and it was

449
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: amazing it happened. And that year Kobe, Kobe and Paw

450
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: it was like instant. My cow said he got traded.

451
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: He went through his physicals, showed up at the hotel

452
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: and one thirty in the morning, Kobe knocks on his

453
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: door and it's like, you ready to go, We're gonna

454
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: win a championship. I was like, hello, nice to see

455
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 1: you again, just one thirty in the morning. But that

456
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: was him, and like how, you know, for all of

457
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: the trouble that you know, the hard Kobe was hard

458
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: on Towe, really hard. And I mean you know he

459
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: called him a white swan and I'm the black swan

460
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: right and Matt Barnes Kobe, he goes. Sometimes I had

461
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 1: to go over to Powe after Kobe would yell at

462
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: him and put my arm around him. I mean, he

463
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 1: was brutal with How. But you know what that hell

464
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 1: thinks is n't like his older brother because they he

465
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 1: pushed him. He got so much good stuff. He got

466
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: the best out of Tow And I think that's how

467
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: we really remember Kobe is just a guy who got

468
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 1: the best out of himself and wanted you to get

469
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: the best out of yourself too. Did you get to

470
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 1: know him more after retirement or when he was still playing? Yeah,

471
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: I mean I would honestly, again, like the last the

472
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: last five s fifty years of his career as when

473
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: we really talked a lot. I think I would say

474
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: like the year we probably talked the most was the

475
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 1: year right after Phil Jackson left, and we would that

476
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: was when he was trying to you know, after Phil left,

477
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: it was like Kobe had to figure it out, do

478
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like before Phil was a coach,

479
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 1: and you know, Coobe trusted him to put the pieces

480
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,719
Speaker 1: in the right places and un silver tires and it

481
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: was like Mike Brown and my Dad's Tony and you know,

482
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: the steady stream of a you know, the Lakers going

483
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 1: with big swings. Remember they traded for Dwight Howard and

484
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: Steve Nash that year. So those were those years where

485
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: he was trying to squeeze one last championship. He wanted

486
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: to catch Mike Man and like that was He's sitting

487
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: on five. Can you imagine like you're sitting on five

488
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: and it's within reach and you have talent, you have Dwight,

489
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: who he had misgivings about when they traded for him.

490
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: But he was like, I'm gonna make this work, you know,

491
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: And and I think it was weird. He would call in.

492
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: I would I would be hosting radio in LA and

493
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: he you know was always driving from Orange County, so

494
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: he was always listening to the show, and uh he

495
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: was just like text email right in the middle of

496
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: the show. And I remember the one was like we

497
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: were talking about Dwight Howard and I think I was going,

498
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 1: I was saying what I thought Dwight needed to be,

499
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: and Kobe was like, Dwight just needs to be like

500
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: Bill Russell. He needs to be play defense and rebound

501
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: and just be that guy for us. That's all we need.

502
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 1: We don't need him to score. Like he was coaching

503
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: him through the media live on air. So he's texting

504
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: you while you're on the air. Yeah great, yeah, of course. Yeah.

505
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: And because he's hoping Dwight's also listening to what I

506
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: say and we'll change that, right. I mean it was like, so, Kobe,

507
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 1: so great, what do you think Kobe would be doing?

508
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: What do you think his next man, his next uh whatever?

509
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, you know that's the part of us

510
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: so sad for all of us. And you know, like,

511
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: I know this is the day I'm trying to I'm

512
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: trying to stay celebration of his life, you know, say,

513
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: because I think that's what Vanessa asked for and UM,

514
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: and I want to respect that as much as we can, right.

515
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: That's I mean, she has his wife and three kids

516
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: are really the people we should all be thinking about today,

517
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: right UM, as well as all the family members of

518
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: the other seven seven people aboard. UM. And I think

519
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: what's so sad about Dan is that like he had

520
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: it all mapped out, man. I mean he had you know,

521
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: he had his investment fund, he had Grantity Students, like

522
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, his his longtime manager. Her name is Molly Carter.

523
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: She she's much more than a manager. I don't even

524
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: know if I should call her that. She's she she

525
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: came over from Gatorade and Nike and stuff, and she

526
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: was running Kobe Ink with him. And I mean she

527
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: told me like they had so many projects lined up

528
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: for Granity, you know, Grantity Studios. That's that's the way

529
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: he does the the comic books and the and the

530
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: children's stories and all these other things. He had all

531
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 1: this stuff lined up. And not just like season one,

532
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: I mean season ten, season elve. I mean, he's like

533
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: the original Screaming Service or something, right, And you know

534
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: how you know what Palt told me about why Kobe

535
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: got so into these to making books or children. He goes,

536
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, I want my kids to understand the lessons

537
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: that I learned along the way, but they don't really

538
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: listen to me. So I have to figure out a

539
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: way to tell stories that appeal to kids, like so

540
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: that kids can hear them and learn them. I mean,

541
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: so cool man, Like, it's just you know, and that's

542
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: why he did it. And I think he would just

543
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: be doing all this, um, I think he would be

544
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: you know, everybody in the NBA, all the young players,

545
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: they all want to go work out with Kobe. You know.

546
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: I remember a time when everybody wanted to work out

547
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: with Elijah One, Right, Okay, go to go to the Keys.

548
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: He'll teach you, you know. I mean that's what it

549
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: is now. Like the workout with Kobe was go to Kobe.

550
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 1: Just work out with Kobe. And and I'll tell you

551
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: what it was always gonna be, is like he's gonna

552
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: put you through this hillacious workout. You'll probably want to

553
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 1: throw up at the end. But like like every player

554
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: wanted to go do it. I mean it was like

555
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: a rite of passage. I think that's what Kobe were doing.

556
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: He'd just be you know, his dad was four daughters,

557
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: a husband of Vanessa and do it as children's books

558
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: and coaching, and I mean, gg she would be you

559
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: know probably I think maybe starting high school. Kin dang man,

560
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: you know we'd be talking about her because she was.

561
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,959
Speaker 1: I mean, i'll tell you what. The w NBA players

562
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: I know who you know. Of course, Kobe got w

563
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: NBA players to come train with his ten year old daughter,

564
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: right of course he did that. They all say she

565
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: was really good like she was, I mean, like she

566
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: was gonna be like the w NBA player. She's gonna

567
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: be one of them, not just like on the team,

568
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: like she's gonna be Kobe in the w NBA. We'll

569
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: be talking about her too. I want to play something

570
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: for you. And this was the last time that I

571
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: had Kobey on It was April of twenty eighteen, and uh,

572
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: we started the conversation talking about coaching. Here's Kobe, and

573
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: you never gave any thought to be in a coach.

574
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: I coached my daughter's team. That's the extent of it.

575
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: Are you my daughter's team? Are you good? Um? Well,

576
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: I mean they're learning, right, I mean that's that's the

577
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: that's the key, right, you want to learn? We do

578
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: run the triangle offense. Oh no, it is the craziest

579
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: thing in the world. Like we'll be sitting there, right,

580
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: We'll be sit there and I say, okay, okay, um,

581
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: let's come down. Um, let's run a Sarah opposite um.

582
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: Top passers denied. Let's go back to her step and

583
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: the you're a weep with the guard coming out of

584
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: the corner and go up. They're just executed. How great

585
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: is that? So Kobe man, I love it. I mean, look,

586
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: there are some things Danna and this is like every

587
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: time I hear I love I love hearing it because

588
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, like sometimes you're interviewing someone and sometimes there

589
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: and you're asking them a question, they actually respond to it,

590
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: and other times they're just gonna go yeah, they're just

591
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: gonna say, you know. And that's how Kobe was. Right,

592
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: Like we'd sit down or talk and it was I

593
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: mean I had a question. I'm sure I had tons

594
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: of questions. He just was going to talk about He

595
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: he controlled what his story was going to be, right

596
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 1: like or he told you what his story, you know,

597
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: his version of and he was such a great um.

598
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: Like there was there's Kobe the Van and then there

599
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: was this larger than life persona, and I just think

600
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: he was unbelievable at not only building that larger than

601
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: life persona, but really being that. I mean, my favorite

602
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: Kobe story is when he taught himself to play the piano. Okay,

603
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: and it was he was going to make this grand

604
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: romantic gesture to Vanessa they had the year they were separated, right,

605
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: and he taught himself to play Moonlight sonata because you know,

606
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: he had studied it and all everything that went into

607
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: that piece. And but it was like he could have

608
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: got lessons, you know, like, of course you could get

609
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: lessons to teach you to play piano, but he's like, no,

610
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: I had to had to teach myself by ear. So

611
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: he would just learn that one song. Like he didn't

612
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: learn to play piano, He just learned how to play

613
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: by sonata. And I was like, and I was thinking,

614
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: like when he told me the story, I was like,

615
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: that's amazing. And he did it. And you know, remember

616
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: those videos he posted some videos and went him practicing

617
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: um and it would be like three in the morning

618
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: he was posting this. He was on the road to

619
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: some hotels, you know, I don't know where they had

620
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: both pianos on the road, but he brought one with

621
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: no I mean he was like, and I was just like,

622
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: did you just teach yourself to learn to play by

623
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: ear so that you could tell the story about it

624
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: later so that it would be part of that at

625
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: like larger than life persona? He probably did. I mean,

626
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you know something like there's a part of

627
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: me that's just like if I chuckle, okay, because if

628
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: you or I did it, we would just like I

629
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: don't know if I could take myself like I'd laugh

630
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: at it, right. But he really was that, Like he

631
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: really was this guy who just did these amazing larger

632
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: than life things just so he could prove that he

633
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: could do them. I think he walked as a sort

634
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: of um figure like that he knew full well, you

635
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: know when I when I went and talked to some

636
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: of his high school buddies, they talk that, you know

637
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: that he talked about that as a high school kids,

638
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Speaker 1: like you know, he played the Jerry West interview. He

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Speaker 1: knew how he was special that back then. I think

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Speaker 1: Kobe always saw himself that way, like he was just

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Speaker 1: larger than life figure and he wanted to, you know,

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Speaker 1: change the world, even though when it's it's high school buddies.

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Speaker 1: So they you know, they used to drive the desert

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Speaker 1: middle and I mean, you know all these kind of stories, right,

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Speaker 1: and like if that's what they would talk about. He

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Speaker 1: talked about how he was going to make a big

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Speaker 1: impact this world. Man, I mean he did. He certainly did.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about him now. I'll always talk about him.

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Speaker 1: I think Mamba mentality has just become something everybody knows.

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Speaker 1: What you mean when you say that, and I think

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Speaker 1: about it. I think about him. I think about his

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Speaker 1: advice all the time on you. Yeah, I mean, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he you know, it's sad for me to think like

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Speaker 1: how much he had left to do and how much

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Speaker 1: all those people on the plane the helicopter had left

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Speaker 1: to do. But I also also, man, he did a

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Speaker 1: lot forty one years. I know you got a busy day,

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Speaker 1: and but I singled you out when Fritzie reached out,

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Speaker 1: I just said I wanted I wanted to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: So I do appreciate you joining us, Ramona, Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much. Appreciate you. Dan. That's a Ramona shoulder ESPN

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Speaker 1: NBA Insider Senior writer. Be sure to catch the live

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Speaker 1: edition of The Dan Patrick Show week days at nine

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Speaker 1: am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and

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Speaker 1: the iHeart Radio WAPP. He's referred to as the Lonely Master.

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Speaker 1: In China, he is Jimmer for Debt. He just turned

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Speaker 1: thirty one and he is playing for the Shanghai Sharks.

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Speaker 1: He scored seventy points in the game the former by

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Speaker 1: U Star. In fact, it was ten years ago today,

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Speaker 1: Jimmer that you had forty three points as b Yu

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Speaker 1: beat San Diego State. Kawhi Leonard was playing for San

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Speaker 1: Diego State at the time. He scored twenty two. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us. How are you. I'm doing great, Dan,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. And yes,

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Speaker 1: those were those were great memories ten years ago, that's

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Speaker 1: for sure. What do you remember about Kawhi Leonard back then?

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Speaker 1: I mean, the thing about Kawai is, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: he was only there for two years, but you know

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Speaker 1: I played him those two years, and from his freshman

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Speaker 1: year to a sophomore year, you could tell he got

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Speaker 1: substantially better, especially offensively. He was always gifted athletically rebounded

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Speaker 1: extremely well, and that was one of the big things

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00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: to try to keep him off the glass, but he

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Speaker 1: could just play defense. He was he affected the game

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Speaker 1: in so many different ways. But then sophomore year he

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Speaker 1: started shooting, you know a little bit more from mid

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Speaker 1: range and from the three point area. Um, you know,

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00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: just got a little bit better offensively. And then obviously

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Speaker 1: as he got into the NBA, UM, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: just you know, blown blown ups. He's played unbelievable basketball.

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Speaker 1: So you scored seventy a couple of days ago. Did

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Speaker 1: you score seventy on purpose? Um? No, not really. I

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Speaker 1: definitely just wanted to go out there and just be aggressive.

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Speaker 1: Did you know in my game it just was but

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00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: had seven one of those games. Did you know you

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Speaker 1: were like, hey, you got sixty four, you got you

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Speaker 1: can get seventy. Oh. Um. I definitely knew what my

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Speaker 1: point total was because I mean, the scoreboard is right there.

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Speaker 1: You can see your points, you know, throughout the whole game,

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Speaker 1: so obviously you're aware of what's going on. Um. But

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Speaker 1: at the end of the game, you know, I just

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Speaker 1: I got to steal at the end of the game,

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Speaker 1: and it was just kind of one of those things

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Speaker 1: where I was at sixty eight and I got an

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Speaker 1: easy steel and was able to go in and you know,

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Speaker 1: make it for the seventieth point. Um. You know, so

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Speaker 1: I wasn't planning on it, but uh, you know it happened,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, as a fun night for sure.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever scored seventy before in a game? Actually

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Speaker 1: I have, So this is actually my this is my

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Speaker 1: third time scoring over seventy in the CBA. UM, So

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Speaker 1: I've scored seventy five, seventy three and then this is

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Speaker 1: my seventy. So I've I've done it three times. The

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Speaker 1: only player to ever do it in the CBA, I guess.

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Speaker 1: So the talent that you're playing against is comparable to

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Speaker 1: what um, you know, these guys are. They're good players.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're good, good professional basketball players. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's it's not you know, European EuroLeague level, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: but they're you know, they're really good players. They're they're

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Speaker 1: strong athletic guys. Um. Several of these Chinese guys have played, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, have had some a little bit of stints

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Speaker 1: in the NBA or in the league or in some

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Speaker 1: of those things. UM, you know, obviously, but they're they're

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Speaker 1: they're high level players. But what they are is They're

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Speaker 1: strong and they're physical, especially on the defensive end. I

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Speaker 1: mean there they come after you know, the Americans every

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Speaker 1: single night. They don't want you to score the basketball.

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Speaker 1: They'll double triple team you. They'll follow you. You know,

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Speaker 1: they'll push you to do everything they can to get

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Speaker 1: in your under your skin and in your head. UM.

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Speaker 1: So it's definitely not not easy, UM on a nightly basis.

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Speaker 1: But we have the ball in our hands so much

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Speaker 1: that sometimes you're able to just you know, have a

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Speaker 1: great game and just start feeling it. But how concerned

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Speaker 1: were you? You know here, you are married, you got

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Speaker 1: two kids, You're going to China, you got COVID, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Hong Kong situation with the NBA, with

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Speaker 1: Daryl Morey's comments, like, was there any trepidation about going

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Speaker 1: back to China? UM? For me? Obviously, you know, during

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Speaker 1: this period of COVID, that was you know, the biggest

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Speaker 1: concern um for us, UM. You know. But we we

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Speaker 1: knew coming over here that we were probably going to

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Speaker 1: be in a bubble for the whole season, and we

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Speaker 1: have been. UM. So as long as we were able

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Speaker 1: to get the visa, that was probably the hardest thing

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Speaker 1: to do. Was to actually get the visa to be

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Speaker 1: able to come over to play. Um, But I knew

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Speaker 1: that I was going to be over here for a

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Speaker 1: long period of time without my family, so that's by

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Speaker 1: far the hardest thing. I haven't been able to see

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Speaker 1: him for four months, and uh, you know, we'll play

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Speaker 1: another two months over here at least until we go

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Speaker 1: back home. So I mean, I have two young ones,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's not easy. But it's a sacrifice you

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Speaker 1: may sometimes as an overseated basketball player. Um. So I'm

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Speaker 1: blessed to be able to be able to have an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to play still and make money and be able

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Speaker 1: to provide for my family. So you have to look

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Speaker 1: at it that way sometimes. But if you weren't playing

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Speaker 1: in China, what would you be doing? Where would you

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Speaker 1: be playing? Um, I'd probably be playing in the EuroLeague still. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know. I was with Panithanikos in Greece last year,

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Speaker 1: which was a great experience. I love Athens really really

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Speaker 1: awesome to be able to go around Europe and see

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Speaker 1: all the cool cities Europe and be able to play

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Speaker 1: against some great basketball teams and basketball players. But I

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Speaker 1: had a second year option to go back to Greece,

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Speaker 1: but we decided not to, and this opportunity with Shanghai

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Speaker 1: came back up and decided to take this one. And

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Speaker 1: you know, it's been it's been fun. The Jim or

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Speaker 1: Fredette Family Foundation's mission is to spread kindness and strengthen

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Speaker 1: families so they can raise children with strong moral character

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Speaker 1: and they come to the aid of youth who are hungry, cold, bullied,

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Speaker 1: or fraid. It's the Fredette Family Foundation. Your first NBA game,

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Speaker 1: I believe, was against Kobe Bryant. Yes, yes, it was.

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously this is the year anniversary of his

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Speaker 1: passing and that it was so tragic. I remember, you know,

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Speaker 1: last year when we were in Greece, my wife and

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Speaker 1: I were sitting on the couch and we got the

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Speaker 1: news and it was just absolutely devastating for everybody involved,

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Speaker 1: not you know, with Kobe's family, but also the other

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Speaker 1: families that were involved in the helicopter crash. But you know,

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Speaker 1: my first game, I walked in, I subbed into the

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Speaker 1: with the Sacramento King so it was a little rivalry.

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Speaker 1: Everyone was amped up and I walk in and of course,

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Speaker 1: you know, the first person that guards me is Kobe Bryant,

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Speaker 1: and he walks right up to me and just puts

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Speaker 1: he puts his forearm right into my chest and just says,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the NBA. And I was like, all right,

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Speaker 1: here we go, me versus Kobe. So it was it

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Speaker 1: was welcome to the NBA moment for sure. How did

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Speaker 1: you do? I think I was scared to take the

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Speaker 1: first couple of shots. I think he was like stepping

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Speaker 1: back and giving me those shots too. He was like,

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Speaker 1: all right, you know, almost daring me to shoot it.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I was doing. That's what I do,

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Speaker 1: you know. But you know, your first NBA game, you're

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Speaker 1: just like, you don't know exactly what's going on. You're

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Speaker 1: just trying to figure it all out. And as I

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00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: got into the game, I got a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: But those first couple of possessions were definitely something that

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Speaker 1: I remember. We asked this every time. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: have you on, why aren't you want an NBA roster? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure it's a mixture of a lot

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00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: of different reasons, you know, obviously, but at this point, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've I've had a couple of chances in

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Speaker 1: the NBA, and um, some places have been better than others.

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00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: But ultimately, um, you know, my path has led me

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Speaker 1: over to to Shanghai and playing in Europe and playing

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Speaker 1: in China. It's more more more recently, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it's been it's been a great opportunity in situation for me.

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Speaker 1: So honestly, you know, I'm grateful and happy for the

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Speaker 1: situation that I've been able to find over here, been

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Speaker 1: able to succeed and do really well make a name

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Speaker 1: for myself over here, not only just in China, but

817
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Speaker 1: back back in the US. People are still you know,

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Speaker 1: seeing the highlights and seeing how I'm doing, which has

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Speaker 1: been really really great to be able to do. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, Uh, the NBA has been a it was

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Speaker 1: a great opportunity for me, but you know, it didn't

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Speaker 1: work out necessarily exactly how I thought it would or

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Speaker 1: many people thought it would. But it hasn't me from

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Speaker 1: continuing to play at a high level of basketball. But

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Speaker 1: would you rather be the man in China or a

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Speaker 1: bench player in the NBA? It all for me, It

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Speaker 1: depends on the situation. Like if I was a bench

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Speaker 1: player that was coming in and playing you know, there

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Speaker 1: I was allowed to play my game and was, you know,

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Speaker 1: playing twenty minutes a game and able to be a

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Speaker 1: really integral part of a team, then I would love

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Speaker 1: to be able to do that. No, obviously, I'd love

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Speaker 1: to be able to compete against the best in the

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Speaker 1: world and be able to make an impact on a

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Speaker 1: team like that. But being here in China and being

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Speaker 1: able to have the impact that I've had, not just

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Speaker 1: on the court but off the court has been has

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Speaker 1: been something that's been special, you know. So I'd rather

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Speaker 1: be doing that than necessarily just sitting on an NBA

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Speaker 1: bench just to sit there. M I think it's been

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Speaker 1: better for my career and better for the impact. Is

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Speaker 1: your nickname the Lonely Master? Yeah, it's the Lonely Master.

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00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: So it's it's Gimo dashin is what it's called. And

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Speaker 1: Gimo means lonely and it sounds like Jimmer Gimo, And

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Speaker 1: that's how kind of pronounce my name over here. They

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Speaker 1: can't really pronounce the er, so they say Gimo gimo

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Speaker 1: and it means lonely, and then they put dash in

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00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: at the end, which means actually god, I guess. And

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00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: then we changed it kind of to Lonely Master. So

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00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be known as a god, so

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00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: I just said, let's do the Lonely Master. But is

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00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: it lonely? So lonely is based on how they pronounce

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00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: your name. They don't they don't think you're lonely. They

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00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: just I mean you are a sort of lonely. Yeah. Yeah,

855
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: it was kind of a double meaning for it. What

856
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: they told me what I would the interpretation from what

857
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: my teammates told me. The fans said that, you know, Gimo,

858
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: obviously you're alone. You're kind of over here by yourself.

859
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: You're not with your family for one thing. But also

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00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: it kind of means like you're kind of on the

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00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: top of the mountain and no one can kind of

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00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: reach your level, you know what I mean. So they're

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00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: kind of saying like it's it's lonely on the top,

864
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: and that's kind of the double meaning for it. And

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00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: my first year that I got here, I got that

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00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: that nickname, and we had a great season, was MVP

867
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: at the seat of the year, So it kind of

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00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: just stuck. I guess, are they going to build a statue?

869
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: Doesn't doesn't stuff on Marbury have a statue over there? Jimmer. Yeah,

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00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: he does. He does out inside of the Beijing Arena.

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00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm at that level. I mean, he's,

872
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: you know, the biggest thing that has been over here,

873
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: and his team won three championships while he was there

874
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: in Beijing, and they hadn't won for a long time.

875
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: So we haven't won any championships yet. Maybe if we

876
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: get one, we'll see. But yeah, he's he's got the

877
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: statue out in front of the Beijing Arena. Could you

878
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: give me a hundred in a game over there? Maybe

879
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: we'll see. It's gonna have to go until like four

880
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: or five overtimes probably, but but you know, I'll try

881
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: for you. I'll try. But you get the green light, right,

882
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: you can shoot whenever you want to. Yes, right, you

883
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 1: definitely get you definitely get the green light. They want

884
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: you to score, like they bring you over here specifically

885
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: to score the basketball, you know, like that's what they're

886
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: looking for the China. You know, the Chinese players expect

887
00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: that from you. You have the ball in your hand,

888
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: ends um, you know, if you're a score, they want

889
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: you to score. If you're a guy, that's if you're

890
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: a big guy. You know, they want you to get

891
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: twenty rebounds a game, you know, five blocks, you know

892
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: that type of thing. They bring you over here for

893
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: a reason. Um, you know, obviously you don't score you know,

894
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: seventy points every night, but every once in a while

895
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: you're able to feel good and I you know, I

896
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: felt good last night and was able to make make shots.

897
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 1: And you don't want to play any defense right only

898
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: on certain occasions of course. Yeah, this is just like

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00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: by you you don't have to play any defense and

900
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 1: you get to shoot. You got the green light, Jimmer, Hey,

901
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: you can. You can do whatever you want. You gotta

902
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 1: you gotta stick to your lane. Do what you're good,

903
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: Do what you're good at. Right what is behind you?

904
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: Like is that your apartment? So so I'm in a

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00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: hotel in my hotel room right now, and we're in

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00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 1: jiuji Jiugi, China, And so I've been in this hotel

907
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 1: room for four months. So this has been what I've

908
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: been seeing for the last four months, just kind of

909
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: this curtain behind me and this small little room that

910
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: we're in. Soy there, it's definitely interesting. Is there like

911
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: a buffalo wild wings over there? Or a Jersey mic

912
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: sub or like, is there anything that reminds you at home,

913
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: I mean in this city. No. So it's funny because

914
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: you know, this city is considered a small city in China,

915
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: but there's seven million people here and that's just kind

916
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: of what they consider us a small city and you know, so,

917
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: but the thing is, we can't actually leave the bubble.

918
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: So I've been at you know, we've been in the

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00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: hotel and they have, you know, a buffet that's prepared

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00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: for us every day, and basically my meal is, uh,

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00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: you know, I get a salad with some white rice

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00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: and chicken breast every day and that's what I've been

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00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: eating for the last four months. So I feel like

924
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm on a bodybuilding diet. So I feel healthy and

925
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: feel good. But yeah, not anything of normalcy at this point.

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Speaker 1: But hopefully when I get back to Shanghai and I'll

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00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: be able to get some stuff. Lonely Master, he's the

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Speaker 1: Lonely Master joining us from China. Hey, congrats, Jimmer, and

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Speaker 1: I hope you get a chance to see your family

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00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: here soon and good luck over there. And you know,

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Speaker 1: next time you go over seventy, we'll have you back

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00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: on again. That sounds good, Dan, I appreciate it. Thank

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00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: you love the show. Thank you Buddy. That's Jimmer for

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Speaker 1: Debt joining us from somewhere in China. Thanks for listening

935
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,359
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00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,319
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