1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two Patriots Unfiltered Draft Show. Welcome to 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. All right, Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: is Day three of the draft and our Draft extravaganza. 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: We'll be here until four o'clock Eastern time. Mike Dusou, 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: Eric Sclavino, Paul Prolo, myself, Matt Morrell talking the draft 8 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: in particular, of course, the New England Patriots, who have 9 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: had a number of picks since our show ended yesterday. 10 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: So which of you find, gentlemen, want to run down 11 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: where the Patriots are right now? Mike Duso as his 12 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: thumb in the year. I'm not sure if that means anything, 13 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: but I mean I'm good, I'm okay, go ahead, place. 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: Why don't you bring us up to day? Bring us 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: up to date. So three fourth round picks were selected today, 16 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: Jack Jones, cornerback, running back Pierre Strong and a quarterback Bailey. 17 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: So we made a strange pick on day one and 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: a Strong pick on day three. Uh, and it's hard 19 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: to keep up with the joneses around am I right? Yeah, 20 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: oh Eric, Eric, I knew that was coming. Uh, you know, 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: yeah before the show. Yeah, I had to do it. Well, 22 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: it's it's I guess it's all coming together. And I 23 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: was sick in this morning. I'm like, you know, for 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: a team that claims they don't draft for need, they 25 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: sure to draft a lot of players and positions that 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: they need. So wow, I think still happens this year 27 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: that they need a lot of positions. That's true, But 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: I mean I think in general, good teams draft for need. Yeah, 29 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: you try to get good players that fill the needs 30 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: that you have you don't reach. But you know, like 31 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: someone taking Kenny Pickett at three, you know that's that's 32 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: not smart drafting. Yeah, you know, but I mean, you know, 33 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: just looking at and you know, we can get into 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: the need gritty of each of these guys, but um, 35 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: two cornerbacks. Thought that was a big need. You needed 36 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: a guard for sure, you got one. For Uh, we 37 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: would love to get a fast wide receiver. You got 38 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,919 Speaker 1: one of those, of running back to kind of groom. 39 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: As James White gets a little older, Damien Harris is 40 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: going to be with some expo creations with some real. 41 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: You know, speed, that's my buzzword of the days. See 42 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: the need for speed. Still questions, you know, questions Front 43 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: seven linebacker haven't been touched. So I think that that's 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: a point of I don't say contention, but something to 45 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: consider going forward. And I think it, you know, says 46 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: a lot. I mean, after the draft, you always look 47 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: and you say, all right, this is primarily the group 48 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: you're going into camp with. Here parts you like, there's 49 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: good depth, there's gonna be good competition. Here, here are 50 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: parts where we really need somebody to step up. And 51 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: I think that's the case with the second level, the 52 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: edge of the line. Yeah, and you never know, because 53 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: they'll never tell us. But when you talk about Front seven, 54 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: are they satisfied with what they have or did the 55 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: board just not fall where they could get guys that 56 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: they liked? You know what I mean? I tend to 57 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: look at things on the positive side. I think it's 58 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: an indication and this is what we talked about on 59 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: the show yesterday and I wrote about it last night. 60 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: I think it's an indication that they are expecting some 61 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: contributions from a group of guys that really hasn't played 62 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: a whole lot in the last two to three years, 63 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: depending on the individual. Josh u Ja, Anthony Jennings, Ronnie Perkins, 64 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: Cameron mcgron right, and I would even throw ray Kwon 65 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: McMillan in there, even though he's not a draft pick. 66 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: He was here last year towards ACL in camp. I 67 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: think they're expecting something out of him. So out of 68 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: that group, if you can get two guys to give 69 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: you significant contributions, is that better than drafting somebody that 70 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: you don't you know, it's just as big of an 71 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: unknown with less experience in the system. Yeah, that's what 72 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: Bill's looking at it. Even last night, Macro mentioned some 73 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: of these guys as draft picks. Yeah mcgrown specifically, Yeah, Yeah, 74 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: I mean it's amazing how they do it, how we 75 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: have extra draft No, but I mean they're certainly questions. 76 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: And I mean I'm looking at, you know, the depth 77 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: chart right now where you have five guys coming off 78 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: significant injuries that missed all of last year for the 79 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: most part, in mcgron, McMillan, Longie Hall, Jennings, and I 80 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: just look at the edge and the outside linebacker spot, 81 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: and you know, Paul mentioned Perkins, Oo j Judon and Jennings. 82 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: That's kind of it. That seems really light to me, 83 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: really light and obviously unproven. So I think they'll probably 84 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: be some depth picks maybe at that spot. Not that 85 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: I'm expecting those guys anybody selected at this point to 86 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: come in and really be a guy. Maybe maybe every 87 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: now and then it happens that, you know, you capture 88 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: some magic. But I'd watch that spot and I think, 89 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: just like going into last year, I felt like, man, 90 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: they are really thin at corner and it came back 91 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: to bite him. Right now, still some draft to go, 92 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: still undrafted, you know, but for the most part, I 93 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: think this could be a thing we're talking about this 94 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: year of man, we just we don't quite have the 95 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: edge setter. We don't quite have that guy off the 96 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: edge to compliment Jude on. Everybody's focusing on Judan and 97 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: Barmore and the other guys can't make plays. That's that's 98 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: my concern right now, as we still sit with three 99 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: picks to go. Yeah, I was just going to add 100 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: that four picks. We got through the fourth round already 101 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: today and we're into the fifth, and right now the 102 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 1: Patriots don't have a fifth round pick. Normally, Bill doesn't 103 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: like to go around without making one. You've got three 104 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: picks in the sixth, you've got one seventh rounder. Paul 105 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: and I were talking earlier about hopefully they make a 106 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: little move to package round and move up into the 107 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: fifth round, you know, because right now you're about forty 108 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: picks away. Happen. So just just a couple of noteworthy 109 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: things around the league. The top of the fifth round, 110 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: Washington took Sam Howell, quarterback from North Carolina that some 111 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: people were surprised was still available. Um. He's more of 112 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: a to me, just a good football player than a quarterback. 113 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: He's a power runner, Um, not really a gifted passer, 114 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: but he's a winner. I think he's a good player. 115 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: Fifth round to me, you know that that makes that 116 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: makes some sense. Um. And a couple of punchers have 117 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: come off the board as well as a kicker, is it? 118 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: Is it? Who's the kicker from Melish's a cole Tracy? 119 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: Is that an old skid? I forget. I have to 120 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: go back and look now. But two punchers off the board. 121 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: Not God, not God's gift to punting right from San 122 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: Jose stight wherever they had all right? Whe is he 123 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: from Diego from California because the reason arrived. But anyway, 124 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: he's still on the board. Kiper said he had him 125 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 1: at his third punter a lot of people, He's not surprised, 126 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: and the kid from Penn State went first, and then 127 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: the kid from Georgia Camarada or something like that. Also 128 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: when it's York, Cade York is the kicker from Tracy 129 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: I think is a X kicker from Lash but Cade 130 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: York went UM a couple of picks. After the Patriots 131 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: took Jack Jones Um, he went to UH Cleveland and 132 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: then a couple of punters went Um as well. So yeah, 133 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: it's just I find it interesting that um, everybody was 134 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: all over this generational punter and two other punchers got 135 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: taken in the fourth round over him. It's so easy 136 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: in this draft process for the group think to kick 137 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: in and somebody brings somebody up and it becomes a 138 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: name and become He's not necessarily you know where you 139 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: would say, oh, that the best guy, but because that's 140 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: what people talk about and and then the fans expect it. 141 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: So you know, had the fans drafted him, arise at 142 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: earlier like oh, that's great if they drafted the other 143 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: guy who maybe everyone in the NFL who legitimately does 144 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: this had the other punter ahead of him. Well, oh 145 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: they could have had the other guy. You know, you 146 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: just get kind of stuck into that, I mean reading 147 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: and assuming they know what they're talking about. Well, sometimes 148 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: it happens, like Joe Cardona year, everybody said that they 149 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: needed a long snapper. He's from the Navy, Like if 150 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: everybody knew, it felt too right, and it happened. But 151 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: I go back to what I've been saying for a 152 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: while now, is I don't think there's any need to 153 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: draft a punter. Jake Bailey is a Pro Bowl caliber, 154 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: All Pro caliber player. A four million dollars is not 155 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: going to break your back. Well, I know I'm not 156 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm just I mean I think that's 157 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: a consideration. Yes he's what is he the highest paid 158 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: punter in the league, Because I just don't think that 159 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: should ever be a consideration, especially your consideration should be 160 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: we want to players like is Jake Like I'm not 161 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: saying Jake Bailey is this arise a guy like I 162 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: don't think he's God's gift to punting, But is he 163 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: a good punter. Yes, do you think he's a good punch? 164 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: He was. I think he had had to get out 165 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: an off year last year. Fred not happy with and 166 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: and I think they turned over Ryan Allen before you 167 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: really thought. I mean, I thought Ryan Allen was gonna 168 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: be here forever. I'll ask that question again after the 169 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: draft of the babies didn't take a punter. Think I'm 170 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: going to get a different answer. I think Jake Bailey 171 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: is that was good, though, even better than Ryan Allen was. 172 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: And Jake Bailey kicks off for you, Jake bad better 173 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: than Ryan? Yes, and he's he had an injury last 174 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: year that I think people forget do you know about? 175 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: I mean, he had a knee injury early in the year, 176 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: and we're assuming that that was the reason he had 177 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: an offer, And I'd agree with you. I don't. I 178 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: think that Eric is right that he had an injury. 179 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily connect the two, right I I don't 180 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: think that is solely the reason that he had an offer. 181 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: I don't think he was a disaster already, know like 182 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: that we need to we need to replace this guy. 183 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: But I connect the dots because as a rookie, he 184 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: wasn't hurt. He had a great year as a second 185 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: year player. He wasn't hurt. He was an All Pro. 186 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: His third year he was hurt, and he had a 187 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 1: little bit of an off year. I know I'm connecting 188 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: those dots. You're out, But we've also they don't need 189 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: a punter. Yeah, bottom line. You you study punters, Eric, 190 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: and you've seen where punters just lose it, but not 191 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: in their third year, not like that, like but for 192 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: no particular let me ask you. But here's I think 193 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: you're right. Pat O'Neill. Was this guy I know you're 194 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: thinking of, and I agree with you, but he was star. 195 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: Did you see any signs of Jake Bailey looking like 196 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: he lost it last year? No? Like he lost it? No, 197 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think he was as right as 198 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: an All Pro. He was an All Pro the previous year. 199 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: I don't think he was at that level. I don't 200 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: think he was bad last The other the other reason 201 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm connecting the dot is because Jake Bailey clearly has 202 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: a strong kickoff leg, and there were several times last 203 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: year when they decided they wanted Nick Folk to kick 204 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: off in certain situations. Ye, that can only be explained 205 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: by the fact that Jake Bailey's knee was bothering. Not 206 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: if you listen to Bill. Yeah, but Bill doesn't always 207 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: say what he really I don't know. But that explanation 208 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: that Bill had for the kickoff that folks screwed up 209 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, Yeah, was pretty detailed for a ruse. I 210 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: think he was telling you that they had a strategy 211 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: and it wasn't executed. Problem and how many times was it? 212 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: Because we had not and Bailey had two or three 213 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: kickoffs that went out of bounds. I believe he had 214 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: two two, Uh, And he had a few blocks, but 215 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: the blocks are not I don't think his fault, not necessarily. Yeah, 216 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: that's that's coverage in front of you. You know, blockers 217 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: in front of you making some mistakes. Here's kind of 218 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: a little crazy tidbit. Last year, Mac Jones was the 219 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: fifth quarterback taken. Yeah, Billy's appy was the fifth quarterback 220 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: taken this year. The difference between I try to make 221 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: that time and yeah, it dumbfounded Fred Regiment six. Um, 222 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:00,359 Speaker 1: let's let's go down the line with the particular players, 223 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: uh and talk about each one. We talked about the 224 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: receiver yesterday, right, we had Yeah, they took Mark the 225 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: run on Marcus Jones. He was the first one, which 226 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: um digging a little bit more. If you want to 227 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: do Marcus Marcus, I don't know if we want to 228 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: do him. Yesterday we did him, didn't be good on him. Yeah. 229 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: Were we on the air at that point when we 230 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: took Marcus Jones, Yeah, we talked about Marcus Jones. I 231 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: don't I don't remember if we did or not. We listeners, 232 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: let's reset, we'll play it in the replay when we're 233 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: driving home. Yea. So Marcus Jones, Uh, I mean people 234 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: because of his size, maybe a slock corner, but I 235 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: think he's he's a dynamic return guy. I mean I 236 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: read a couple of things of that alone. He's really good. 237 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: And I saw a speculation last night. He's talented, makes 238 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: plays on the ball. You know, it's just a question 239 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: of he's a slot small, he's sure outside corner. But 240 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: then today five eight is he that's yeah, yeah, yeah, 241 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: we actually just saw him. Yeah he's small, yeah, small. 242 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: But then today they took Jack Jones, who has had 243 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: some off the field issues, got kicked out of USC. 244 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: I think he was academically ineligible. He got busted for 245 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: breaking into a restaurant. Um, but it was hungry but 246 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: thrown out of USC. Yeah, but he's he's that guy. 247 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: He's the man coverage outside long, athletic kind of guy. Um. 248 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: I think they met with him maybe three times, so 249 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: clearly doing their due diligence on him. So, uh, those 250 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: two picks just between the third and fourth round, uh, 251 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: to kind of start us off. It's it's it's a 252 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: big need. They needed cornerbacks. You know. They brought in 253 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: Terence Mitchell and Malcolm Butler, veteran guys to kind of 254 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: stop gap, and you know, you hope that that these 255 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: guys can emerge. And oh, Bill's got a Yeah, we 256 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: liked him, and that's a that's a good pick for them. 257 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: That's it. They also got a uh, what's his name's brother, 258 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook's brother, James from Georgia. It's another great fit 259 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: for them too. For them, but I think that a 260 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: little hot, Like I think that was a little bit 261 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: of a reach for them. But I do like the player. 262 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: I think he's good. I think and this is a 263 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: round I thought maybe fourth round, So this is around 264 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: where Shakier was was projected, you know, top of the 265 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: fifth round. I think for an offense like that, he 266 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: has a chance to make an impact right away. That 267 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: they sort of Cole Beasley's out. Their complimentary receivers have 268 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: been turned over. Cole Beasley's gone, Emmanuel Sanders has gone, 269 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: Gabe Davis has moved up a notch with Diggs. I 270 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: think he I think Shakira will have a chance to 271 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: contribute right away. I think he's talented. Patriots also took 272 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: a running back. I like that pick. Okay, Yeah, you know, 273 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: Mike and I talked on the podcast on running backs 274 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: about the need to maybe get that James White guy. 275 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: You know, James White's not going to be around much longer. 276 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: He has explosive speed. For it was the four three 277 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: three sevens, the fastest running back at the company. And uh, 278 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: you know a lot of production as a receiver. Now 279 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: the caveat is South Dakota State, yep. Okay, so that 280 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: that's part of it. But you can't teach speed, Paul No, 281 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. That's why I like this pick. 282 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: I lead with that. I this this is a pick. 283 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: I like, it wasn't the you know, it wasn't one 284 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: of those you know, they have to get a pass 285 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: catching running back in this draft at some point. But 286 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: if you get an opportunity for one, I think it's there. 287 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: Some people don't. This is another one that was picked 288 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: a rounder so higher than most people thought, and some 289 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: people are not happy about it. I kind of like, 290 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: I kind of like the Athletic Fund, what are you 291 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: doing at this stage? It's like it's it's like millionaires 292 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: arguing over the next one or two million. But yeah, 293 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: two time captain and you know, not overwhelming production, but 294 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: but you know, consistent UM twenty catches as a junior, 295 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: twenty two catches as a senior UM. So I think 296 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: he's he's an interesting player. And again I to speak 297 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: to Paul's uh, to Paul's point of the speed and 298 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: just general athleticism of this class. That's that's kind of 299 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: coming into view. I think, yeah, And I like, I 300 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: don't know if anybody listened to Matt grow last night. 301 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: It was late. I want speed didn't right, But I mean, 302 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's like we have been talking about how 303 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: we think the Patriots need to get faster, and it's 304 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: nice to hear from the people who are making the 305 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: decisions that they sort of agree with that. And Macrow 306 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: was emphasizing that last night. Look, if you want to 307 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: get faster, you need to draft fast players. Taka take 308 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: the hair right, Yeah, exactly. Um uh, the first Jones 309 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: cornerback very fast. This kid Pierre strong fast. I mean, 310 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: so they do need to get faster, and clearly they 311 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: were targeting fast players. So if they're taking them a 312 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: little bit higher than they should be, maybe that's because 313 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: they want to make sure that they get these guys 314 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: that they know are faster than than others. Yeah, I'm 315 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: wonder what this pick potentially means for JJ Taylor. I 316 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: know some people spotted him working out with with the 317 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: group and seemed like he had bulked up a little 318 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: bit and he was always was ahead a little bit 319 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: of a head scratcher last year that he didn't really 320 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: give him a change. They went right back to bolding. 321 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now, I would be stunned 322 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: if he's on the team next year. I think it's 323 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: it's clear by his inactive memory and by by his 324 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: inactivity last year, coupled with what do what is it 325 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: you doing? Start with bringing back White in the first place. Yeah, 326 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's a move, that's Patriots one on one. 327 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: We have this young guy who's coming on and demanding 328 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: playing time. We're gonna let the veteran go as a 329 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: free agent. They re upped him for the second year 330 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: in a row. Yeah, coming off a major injury. So 331 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: I think that again, look at what they do. I 332 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: think all signs are telling you that they don't like J. J. 333 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: Taylor very much. Um, they also drafted a quarterback they did, Yes, yeah, 334 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, he was on what He's won, Johnny. 335 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: He was my top guy on potential Patriots today. Um, 336 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: the only quarterback I put. But you know, he's kind 337 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: of Mackie. He's a guy that not physically crazy but smart, 338 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: knows where to go with the ball, gets it out quick. 339 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: I think he, you know, kind of has that same 340 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: kind of style to play. But I just think it's 341 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: good business generally the draft quarterbacks. Steadham, he's his last year. Hoyer, 342 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: he is under a two year deal. But you know, 343 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: if you can and you know, everything I've read about 344 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: about this guy is that I'm with Mike. Could be 345 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: a good, good business, but good You know what, maybe 346 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: Stidham signed somewhere else next year, gets a chance, and 347 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: you know, then you've got this guy with a year 348 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: in the system to kind of understand and be a 349 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: long term backup. But you know, I mean I think 350 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: another thing too, is just that Max's not the biggest guy. 351 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: I think you need to be a little bit prepared 352 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: that like he could get dinged here, you know, I 353 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: think you need to have how big is this kid? Right? 354 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 1: He's smaller than Mac. I think he's a little bit 355 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: over six feet. But I mean, I just think the 356 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: depth is a thing, and you know, having a having 357 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: a quality backup that you know, we saw it having 358 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, Brian Hoyer in the chiefs. 359 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: Nobody's seeing Stadham. I mean, I assume he's you know, 360 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: personal grata for for as long as he's here, and 361 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: so it's just a good business. I don't think he 362 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: can ever every year. I you know, just listen. Let's 363 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: listen to this for a sc I mean, I understand 364 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: Western Kentucky is not exactly Alabama. Okay, so take it 365 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: with a grain of salt, but the stats are just 366 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: mind sixty nine point two completion percentage, fifty nine hundred 367 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: and sixty seven yards, sixty two touchdowns, eleven to eleven picks. Yeah, 368 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: one year last year. No, it was a record. I 369 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: mean it's it's it's one year. That's all. Like, he 370 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: didn't play very much. He was at the Senior Bowl. 371 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: Um Again. I think Mike talked about his physical attributes 372 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: and they are just sort of average six. I think 373 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: he's a project as a backup. But I kind of 374 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: like I just I watched him. He's not a dynamic athlete, 375 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: but he's not unathletic. He's he's okay. I think he 376 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: has a so so arm, but that production is just immense. 377 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: You bring him in, you see if he's got an 378 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: aptitude for the position. If he does, you work with 379 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: him and try to development. But he doesn't. You have 380 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: your three quarterbacks already, but if you can have him 381 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: replace your third quarterback, why not? Why not? Maybe you can? 382 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: You know, you get him in your in your system, 383 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: and over the next three months you decide heading into 384 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: camp he can be number three, your pedal Stidham and 385 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: maybe someone gives you a fifth rounder form sixth rounder. 386 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's probably wishful thinking, but maybe 387 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: you never know. I was thinking a new tackling slit 388 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: because the one out there is a little rusty Stidham 389 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: for a tackle. I was thinking to two. No, but 390 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: some of our listeners probably are you only got a 391 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: two form. I think he's a one. I think. So 392 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: that's right. That's where they are right now. They've got 393 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: three picks in the sixth and one in the seventh. Yeah, 394 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,239 Speaker 1: none in the fifth, but we're in the night. We're 395 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: getting close. Yeah, but I would look, I would look 396 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: slot receiver still. I mean, my guy from UCLA is 397 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: still out there, Kyle Philip phillip Um. But just I 398 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: think you need depth at outside linebacker edge that I though. 399 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: Those are the areas I think they have to address. 400 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: It's really I mean, they did really nothing in free 401 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: agency other than Mack Wilson Bentley bringing Davis back. But 402 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: I think those are the spots to watch these us for. 403 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: Here's a I'm just looking at the board as we 404 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: go down. The Vikings have two picks, the Bears have 405 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: two picks. The Giants already picked twice, and they have 406 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: another pick in this round. So Dallas has two picks 407 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: later in the round. So just teams that have teams 408 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: have multiple picks. Ye, Patriots could move in maybe yeah, 409 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: all right? Eight five five pats five hundred is the 410 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: AS ticket hut line eight five five Pats five hundred. 411 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: Email is web radio at Patriots dot com. Let's get 412 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: everybody involved here at this point, Um Sean and Vancouver 413 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: is first up on the AS ticket hut line. What's up, Sean, Sean, 414 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: can you hear me? Yes? Yeah, hello, yeah, okay yeah. 415 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: There's still four players that are available that I like, 416 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: and one of them is the cornerback that you like. 417 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: Brett is three Quel one. He's player. I know they 418 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: already have two corners they took, but he's still there. 419 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: There's a tackle Rashid Walker, edge player Kingsley Um and 420 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: Barry and nose tackle John Ridgeway. So those I don't 421 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,239 Speaker 1: know if they'll last to six. I don't know if 422 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: the Patriots will move up into the fifth. Maybe they'll 423 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: trade of Harry with a sixth round and and get 424 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: to go up um. In terms of who they've taken, 425 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: I think Cole Strange is starting guard, Um, si Quon Thornton, 426 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: downfield threat, wide receiver, Marcus Jones block corner Um. He 427 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: also has special team, so that's good. I'm not crazy 428 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: about Jack Jones. I'd be surprised he makes the team, 429 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: Pierre Strong Junior. I think he's a backup to White, 430 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: third down guy Um and Bailey Um Zappe, I think 431 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: he Um he's a good backup. He might push Jared 432 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: Stidham and be the backup. So that's that's where we are. Yeah, 433 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: well that would probably be number three. I think Hoyer's 434 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: your backup. Well, yeah, they'll keep three, but I mean 435 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: they'll keep be there instead of Stidham. I see what 436 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: shans he could be like technically ahead of Stidham in 437 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: terms of getting reps. You know, yeah, well I mean 438 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: if Zappi or zap Yeah, I know. I think the 439 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: head of Hoyer, he don't know. The backup is Hoyer. Well, 440 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: you don't give a guy guaranteed money for two years 441 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: but then then you're gonna cut them. I don't see 442 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: that happening. They guarantee. Think he's your backup. Hoyer stays 443 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: of the team. He's your coach slash backup, right back 444 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: up Rich Dunlop. But I think they're gonna want to 445 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: see what I think he's the number two quarterback. I'm 446 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: happy if something happens to Mac Jones. Brian Hoyer will 447 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: play early, early at this point. I mean again, they 448 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: must be poorly run if they're giving the guy that 449 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: they don't want to play guaranteed money. Yeah, it's not 450 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: that much money. Well, he's he's the type of player, Zappy, 451 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 1: who could be like in the development of their system 452 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: for a quarterback the way they see Mac joneses like, 453 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: this guy is kind of similar. And well, he's not 454 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 1: gonna make it in the NFL, Zappy, you'll he'll never 455 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: be a starter in the NFL. FR. I don't even 456 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: know what's happened to you? What does that? I really 457 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: don't Yeah, the Patriots picked him, you know, so you're 458 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: supposed to get with it. By the way, the Patriots 459 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: have picked a lot of quarterbacks over the last twenty years. Yes, 460 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: they have. They have. Most of them have not been 461 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: very good. That's right. The Seahawks took Tariq thanks Sean, 462 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: did they. Yeah, that's the kind of guy they like, long, 463 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: long cornerbacks. Ye. Yeah, that's that's too bad. But we 464 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: got two cornerbacks. So um, all right, let's go to 465 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: Dexter in Santa Rosa, California. What's up, Dexter. Hey, guys, 466 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: I've been a long time listener. Uh, I'm a little 467 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: confused as to why they haven't their lack of interest 468 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: at the linebacker position. Um every year during the draft, 469 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: I always look at it like, okay, based off of 470 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: who they pick. This is how Belichick feels about the 471 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: guys that are on his roster. So I don't feel 472 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: this way, but I just wonder if he's looking at 473 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: it like Kwon McMillan and Cameron mc mcgron, if they 474 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: are the answer, and also Josh Ucha and Ronnie Perkins 475 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: and Mac Wilson. Yeah, I think that's I think that's 476 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: what he's saying. I think he's telling that though Bentley, 477 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not telling you he's right. I'm telling you. 478 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: I think that's what the thought process. Yeah. And then 479 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: also I've been listening to, like I said, for about 480 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: fifteen years, absolutely love your Guys show, and like, has 481 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: anyone heard from Eldred is okay? Because he hasn't checked in. 482 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to call in, I said the first thing 483 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: after they took him, like, where's Eldred? I gotta get 484 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: him the weekend. He's not in his truck, so's Yeah, 485 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: he's been calling, just banging the table. Yeah, outside speed, right, 486 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: and now we got it, so I know, now he 487 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: checks out what's going on. I guess we gotta wait 488 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: till Tuesday. Maybe he's got yeah, maybe maybe he's letting, 489 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: giving himself time to process everything. Freddy, See how Eric 490 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: get home right right along you lockstep with Seattle? Woman 491 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: is such a Seattle type cornerback. Yeah, that's that's who 492 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: kept Pete Carroll likes. Yeah, there's one thing Pete Carroll 493 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: knows Sherman and Browner. Ye, he knows his defensive backs. Uh, 494 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: let's go to Rashod in Baltimore. What's up with shod? Hey? 495 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? Hey? Um? First I'm listening to um, 496 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: I gotta say something about the first pick before I 497 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: get about the other draft pick. Of course, I didn't 498 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: like to pick just because the value. I mean, I 499 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: really still don't like to pick. And I just still 500 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: like the Patriots board is obviously is different than everybody else. 501 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: Like leave, I made a joke in my group Chack 502 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: about Jack Jones. I said, the Patriots next upcoming picks 503 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: probably gonna be for mind, that's like the seven brown 504 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: projected person. And of course Jack Jones is like projected 505 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: six to seventh round. But I'm you know, the draft is, Um, 506 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: it's okay, I'm liking I'm liking it at least trying 507 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: to address speed at least trying to ask speed to 508 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: the team. Yeah, but like the players that they're getting, 509 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm just is just questionable. It's just questionable. Yeah, I mean, 510 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: I think you're You're right. I mean, I think, look, 511 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: all these guys are going to get a chance and 512 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: taken as a whole, I'm excited in camp to get 513 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: a feel for it, especially Thornton. Just what's that speed 514 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: look like? How does that translate here? Um? But you 515 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: know it's you bring up the front too, and it's 516 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, it doesn't look like a like a 517 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: championship level defense. It looks like a defense that's a 518 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: bunch of guys that we need to prove it and 519 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: we need to go into competition and hope that somebody 520 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: emerges and makes plays. But you don't have a lot 521 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: of high round draft pick guys that you know are 522 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: going to make an impact. I want you On and 523 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: Barmore to be able to excel, you know. Yeah, And 524 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: I feel like if we draft at least draft a 525 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: lineback or pass or somebody it'll like at least that 526 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: will push like people on the roster maybe to do better. 527 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: Like it's just like we're bringing the same people in. 528 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: So it's like yeah, like yeah, no, I know, and 529 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: and you know it's it's I mean, I know there's 530 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: an Ucha Hyke train that that was you know, pulls 531 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: out of the station last summer and never really went anywhere. 532 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: I don't have to wait till camp, Mike, Well, now 533 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: it's real. I mean in Perkins too, I mean, never 534 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: really saw much out of him. So at least Oucha 535 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: got on the field occasionally the last two years. All 536 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: these other guys that we're talking about really have never 537 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: paided Jennings, Yeah, Perkins and and you know mcgron obviously, 538 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: I mean he helped cut him some slack because he 539 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: was hurt. But we've never seen any of those other 540 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: guys really for any extended time on the field. Uja 541 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: at least has had some opportunities. Yeah, that's why I 542 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: would put him at the top of the list in 543 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: terms of expectations. But you're right, Mike, the way that 544 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: people talked about him last summer was like he had 545 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: already done it. Yeah, and you know, I was like, 546 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't remember the plays you guys are talking about 547 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,719 Speaker 1: from his rookie year, and certainly I didn't see those 548 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: plays last year, three or four plays the top. So 549 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: even if even if I think he tackled to in 550 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: that last game against Miami's rookie year and everybody was like, 551 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: did you see that, not realizing two years later the 552 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: tour hasn't really been a runner as a pro like 553 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: he I mean he hasn't. Yeah, he's I think he's 554 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: really concentrated on staying in the pocket. Um, I don't 555 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: see those same plays that other people seem to be 556 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: talking about in the summer, I know. And then we 557 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: were sorry, ahead this one more thing about them about 558 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: the I guess the upcoming rookies, maybe we could draft 559 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm liking Bio McCollum. I'm I'm thinking he probably will 560 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: be gone for the sixth round. Yeah, they might be done. 561 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: At least a WEE could add another wide receiver. I mean, 562 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: Kyle Phillison feel out there. I think Khalil secure, he 563 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: feel out there. He just went like, yeah he went 564 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: about four five picks ago. Yeah, sorry about that. Yeah, 565 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: I was I was bumped on that. Too. I mean, 566 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: pile Philips. I like him as a good flat receiver 567 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: or something like somebody who can take Jacoby slot, because 568 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: I don't really think Jacobe gonna be in next year. 569 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: And I'm really thinking, like I'm thinking a lot of 570 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: your draft makes is really because they planning for next year. Yeah. Yeah, no, totally, 571 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: especially with like Pierre Strong the running back pick. Paul 572 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: talked about, you know, Thornton being kind of an Agilore 573 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: replacement or even given Agglore maybe a little bit more 574 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: freedom of to move them him around a little bit more, uh, 575 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: putting Thornton on the outside, just because I just wonder, like, 576 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's great to say, okay, well you need 577 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: five receivers, Yeah you do. They can't all be out 578 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: there at the same time and you're not going to 579 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: get production from five different guys, you know. So it's 580 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: easy to sit there and say, well, you know you 581 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: have your deep threat with Thornton, Well, is he going 582 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: to get on the field, Like, even even even if 583 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: he works out, if Born, Agalore and Myers are all here, 584 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: he's probably not going to play very much in partner, right, Yeah, 585 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: He's probably not gonna play very much even if he 586 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: works out, even if he shows promise, you know, that's 587 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: what what he could be. As like Bethel Johnson early 588 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: in his career, the one trick pony that all of 589 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: a sudden, you know. And I'll get Bethel Johnson credit 590 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: for this. He was one of those guys. He's who 591 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: a bomb to him every other game and he caught it. 592 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and he made a play with it, you know, 593 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: and he returned a kick or two. Oh, he was 594 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: a good I mean, he was always a good returner. Yeah, 595 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: thanks for shot. I appreciate the call. Let's go to Jack. Jones, 596 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: by the way, would not comment on any of his 597 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: off field issues. He was asked about them. Okay, uh, 598 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: went broke into the restaurant, but he's not biting. I 599 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: just had to say. I gave Eric a look. You know. 600 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: A couple of minutes ago, as Mike was talking about 601 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: his disdain for the lack of movement on the front 602 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: seven and wondering about this, you like, openly dismissing some 603 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: of the draft picks and patriots, I just wond who 604 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: are these people? Who are the two people that I'm 605 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: on the show with today. Yeah, Now, last night, after 606 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: that call, I realized I hate Bill Belichick, and it 607 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: is a role reversal because we also learned last night 608 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: that I'm about Bill Belichick ball. Yeah, we're all listen, 609 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: it's down cats and dogs living together. We've been around. 610 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: How this is what our twenty eighth draft or something 611 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: like that, Paul, I think that's twenty three for me 612 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: with you, twenty three, you know, twenty three, and you're 613 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: intrigued with every guy because every guy has bona fides. 614 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: You know, they come out of college with create, you know, 615 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: all this all that. You know they're the best in college, 616 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: but you know, you see when they get here, it's 617 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: a whole different thing. So I love I'm with Paul. 618 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: I love the idea of bringing in all this speed, 619 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: I really do. But I'm wondering, how are we going 620 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 1: to stop Josh right Well, like, how do you make 621 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: an argument right now the defense is better right now 622 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: than it was when it in the season ended. No, 623 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: I don't think you can make the argument, but I 624 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: think you at least have the hope that some of 625 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: these guys that we haven't seen much of can do something. Yeah, 626 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: I want it right now. Anyway, I went into the draft, 627 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,239 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna be a phony. I went 628 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,479 Speaker 1: into draft thinking defense, defense, defense, defense. Yea, Now they 629 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: have a dress cornerback, so you know we've got a 630 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: little well they picked. Yeah, they've got some quarker guy 631 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: at the end of the third round and in the 632 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: fourth round, you really haven't, right, Mike, Mike, to much point, 633 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: your defense isn't better? No, but I know, but considering 634 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: where we were, at least we've got a couple more 635 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: guys that we can look at at that position. Right. Well, 636 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, so maybe this is for defense. Maybe this 637 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: is a two year build. Yeah. I was gonna say, 638 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: you're hoping that one of those two guys is Asante Samuel, right, 639 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: and in two years you got a player run right, 640 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: you know, I mean there there this year, you're gonna 641 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: be desperate for one of those guys to emerge. And 642 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: it's not like I mean, I guess who Jay and 643 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: Perkins were. You know, Day two picks its Perkins. I 644 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:40,959 Speaker 1: forget at the top of my head. It was the third, 645 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: fourth round. But he wasn't say two day two. You know, 646 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: it's not like, oh we had this first round pick. 647 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: It's like Cam mcgron was a fourth round pick, like, yeah, 648 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: he was fine, well but he was he but he 649 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: was a fifth round pick because everyone knew he wasn't 650 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: gonna play that year. And even if you want to, oh, 651 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 1: that's what we were told, but I know what we 652 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: were told. He was a red shirt, yeah pick, yes, yeah, 653 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: but but I don't know where we would have gotten 654 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: taken we were we were told he would have gone 655 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: a little higher. Well, even if you want to call 656 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: him a third round pick, it's just there. There's not Chandler, Jones, 657 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: Dante high Tower. I you know, I'm having flashbacks to like, oh, 658 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: nine ten, when you didn't you turned it over and 659 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: you were searching for front seven guys who could make 660 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: an impact. Now out of that you got like a Ninkovich, 661 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: You found somebody from the from all that rubble. But 662 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: you know, you just look, you got a lot of 663 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: guys and and someone will emerge. But that doesn't mean 664 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: that it's going to be a better defense. These are 665 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: going to be plus players, Like maybe they'll be NFL 666 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: players and they'll be the best of what they have. 667 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: But you got to convince me that that these guys 668 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: have some magic. And well, you know, with playing time, 669 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: Ouja and Perkins all of a sudden, It's like, who, 670 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: we got something now. I like that they're going to 671 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: give him a chance, But I just right now, I'm 672 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm a little skeptical that that they have a high ceiling. Yeah, that, 673 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: but those are the things we have to look forward 674 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: to for the practices coming up in the spring and 675 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: in the summer. Or is seeing these guys more than 676 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: we did last year, seeing them a little bit more 677 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: in the preseason, and you know, obviously we're not going 678 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: to know well these points. Is harder to know us 679 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: with these practices because I don't hit. But but still, 680 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: but just based on the numbers and the new bodies, 681 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: like who's out there, Like I mean, at least the 682 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: past year we know high Tower and out there as 683 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: the guys. But who who's going to be across from 684 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: Jude on? You know, when they're just running their their scout, 685 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: they know they're binoculars out I'm polishing them. Doesn't have 686 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 1: to be Ronnie Perkins, I think so, But they'll have 687 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: to play it out. I I mean, I you're saying 688 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: between Perkins, between Perkins and Uch, I mean it's Perk 689 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: as sort of a situational kind of let's go forward 690 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 1: and be a pass rusher. I don't know. Maybe that's 691 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 1: all Perkins is too. I thought Perkins had a chance 692 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: to be more of a well rounded like fourth three end. 693 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 1: Maybe he's not. Maybe you're right. I don't know. I 694 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: don't know. Even we didn't see him. We saw him 695 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: second year. Thinks I can't even get in an argument 696 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: with him. I love I set the over, love set 697 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: the over under a two ten. It's two thirty five. 698 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: I haven't even been sniffing in an argument yet. Wow. God, 699 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: I mean, god, darn darn argue with yourself. Let's done that. 700 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: Let's go to Kevin and Buffalo. What's up, Kevin, Kevin. 701 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: Let's go Buffalo, Hey, Kevin, you there, Kevin Kevin ken 702 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: He's gone. We'll go to Eddie in Florida. Eddie, he's gone. Wow. 703 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: I want to thank Hardy for coming in early for 704 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: the Revs game tonight. N Try Always Hawaii, what's up? Always? Hey? Hey? Hey? 705 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: Awesome coverage. I love, uh the draft coverage I've been 706 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 1: listening to this day one. I just had a quick question. 707 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it off the off the air. I 708 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: want you guys to uh comment about our development, like 709 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: you know, uh, what has there anything changed from the 710 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: earlier two thousands, like you know, uh, and then the 711 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: post two thousand and ten and now as far as 712 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: like you know, like we got the wide siever we 713 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: have I've been herring. You know, he's very thin, he's 714 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: super fast, but like are we you know, Howard? Can 715 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: you guys comment on the development and you know the 716 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: coaching you know, thank you? Okay? I mean he says 717 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: they Is he talking about the receiver position specifically, No, 718 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: the team philosophy, he said two thousand, then two thousand 719 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,439 Speaker 1: and ten, and then now like over the twenty years, 720 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: has the development how they build a team, has that 721 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: philosophy change? Well, I think if it has, I think 722 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: in the beginning, Sivers, I didn't know. I think he meant. 723 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: I think in the beginning it was a defense first, 724 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,720 Speaker 1: defense focused team, run oriented with yeah, run oriented, defense 725 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: focused team. In the first decade of the dynasty, if 726 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,959 Speaker 1: you will. The second half it was the pendulum swung 727 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: to the offense, and it was you know, more offense based, 728 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: higher points scoring totals. Brady obviously hitting his stride, getting 729 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: into his prime. Now I think there's sort of somewhere 730 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 1: in the middle because they don't really have a dominant offense. 731 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: They had, you know, a little bit better offense last 732 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: year than they did in twenty twenty. The defense is 733 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: like we just talked about, who knows what that's going 734 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: to look like, but the last evidence we saw was 735 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: not very good. So I think they're still trying to 736 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: figure out what kind of team they are right now, 737 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: whether they're going to be offensive focused or more defensive focused. 738 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: And that sort of reminds me of like what we 739 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: were talking about, Like Fred said, he went into the 740 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 1: draft thinking defense, defense, defense, And I just wonder if 741 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: they're looking at it as like, no, we got to 742 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: find a way to score more points, because could be 743 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,919 Speaker 1: because even if we do improve our defense, we're still 744 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: limited offensively. Even if we have a good defense, it's 745 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: hard to win when you you know that that stat 746 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: that we keep talking about, keep talking about, yeah about 747 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: the twenty five points, Like you have to find a 748 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: way to be able to consistently score more than twenty 749 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 1: five points every week. And you know, and maybe they're 750 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 1: looking at it that way. Yeah, And maybe they're maybe 751 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: they're looking at it that look, we're closer to being 752 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: where we want to be on offense than we are 753 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: on defense. So let's finish the finish the job on 754 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: offense that could be could be. Yeah, And I think 755 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: it's there's an element of like, these are just the 756 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: guys that were available. Well, you've you've spent draft picks 757 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: on Uja and Perkins and Jennings, and at some point 758 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: you gotta gotta figure it out with them. As much 759 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: as you love a perfect situation where you have a 760 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: you know, starting three linebackers and well, let's ease one in, 761 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it feels like we're gonna just kind of 762 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: have to push some guys into into the into the mix. 763 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: And I have an admission to bake. I think this 764 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,280 Speaker 1: whole linebacker thing, I think I'm getting what I wanted. 765 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: I think he's finally doing what I wanted them to do. 766 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: We'll see. Yeah, the young guys, Yeah, you got a 767 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,919 Speaker 1: Fisher cut bait. You know, Mike said it. They used 768 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: all of those guys that we talked about, Like, if 769 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: there's five or six guys, four or five of them 770 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: were draft picks in the first three rounds of the 771 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: last three drafts, you know, except for mcgron, who was 772 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: a fifth rounder like Oocha Perkins Jennings. These guys were 773 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 1: all draft picks in the first three rounds. They should 774 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 1: be playing by now, and I think I'm gonna get 775 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 1: what I want. I think he's gonna play the young guys, 776 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: and then you might not be as good as you 777 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: were last year. I agree with Mike. I don't think 778 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: the defense right now on paper is as good as 779 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: the one that struggled at the end of last year. Ye, 780 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, the goal is by the end of the year, 781 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: you have these young guys, they're acclimated to the system, 782 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: they're playing faster because they're a little bit more comfortable mentally, 783 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: and now you have some athletes that maybe force a 784 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: punt against Buffalo. You know. Yeah, no, I beating your 785 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: head into the wall, right. You know, with Jamie Collins 786 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: and Dante Hi Tower and Kyle Van Nois, you weren't 787 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: getting any better with those guys, and it wasn't good 788 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: enough with those guys. So yes, I agree, these guys 789 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: are probably gonna make more mistakes than those guys, but 790 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: you're well, you're better for it down the right and 791 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: at the end of the year, hopefully maybe you say, hey, uh, 792 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: you know, mcgron, he can play j Perkins, not so 793 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: much like you find a couple, you know what you have, 794 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: and then you can next year through free agency with 795 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 1: money and next year's draft where I think they've you know, 796 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: acquired like about ten picks already, so they'll be able 797 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: to build around and know what you have. I think 798 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: maybe it's an element too, Paul. It is just we 799 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: don't know who's gonna pop and who's not gonna pop. 800 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: We need to figure that out first and then build 801 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 1: around those guys before we start piling guys in behind mcgroan, 802 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: behind Raycole McMillan. Who knows those guys might turn on 803 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: players and you're drafting somebody now in it it might 804 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: be burning a pick. All right, Lots of calls and 805 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: emails come in, so let's continue. Uh, Pat and agawam, 806 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: what's up? Pat? Pat? Hey? What's up? Guys? Hey? Sorry, 807 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm yeah? Um? Is it me? Just a quick question? 808 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: Does it me? Or the last two dress? Does it 809 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: seem like they're they're taking guys with a little bit 810 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: like higher athletic score like all these most of these 811 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 1: days that they took like Cole Strange. I know that 812 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: they usually like athletic offensive lineman, but like him, Orton 813 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: Marcus Jones, who I love, by the way, um strong 814 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: and even got his last year like mcron um. I 815 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: don't think Ronnie Perkins. These are all guys that are 816 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,439 Speaker 1: I think are a little bit more athletic than they're 817 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: used to take it. What do you guys think? I'll 818 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: let you guys take it. Wow. I mean from a 819 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: speed perspective, that's true. I think this year, this year, 820 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: this year. I don't think the guys last year yea 821 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: fit the profile that we're talking about. I don't think 822 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: the grown is that kind of an athlete. But I 823 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: think Barmore was a little bit of a surprise to 824 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: me just in terms of he's just good. Yeah, he's 825 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: just good. And then I mean, I hope they like this. Yeah. 826 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: I think Romandre Stevenson I don't think you look at 827 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: him as like an elite athlete. I think he's a 828 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,879 Speaker 1: really good running back, yeah, versus a really good football player. Well, 829 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,919 Speaker 1: this year it's certain. You know what Mac grow said 830 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: last night, if if you want to increase speed, get fast, guys. 831 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: You know, I do think that that was a priority. 832 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: Ye Yeah, So definitely this alright, that's all I got. 833 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,399 Speaker 1: All right, thanks Patty. Um, Bob is in the hot tub. 834 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 1: What's up, Bob? Yeah, don't drop your phone. Guys asked 835 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 1: me the question about the dress code in the hot tub, 836 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 1: so I do some of my best thinking. All right. 837 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,879 Speaker 1: So one of the things you know, I was thinking 838 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 1: about with the Belichick, Um, you know, draft power this year, 839 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: we're not really taking guys from you know, places where 840 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 1: where we normally do from, um, you know, nobody from Michigan, 841 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 1: thank god, or Alabama. I wonder if that's sort of 842 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: an indication that he's you know, it doesn't have as 843 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: much say into you know, drafting the body. I don't 844 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: know about that. I mean, you know, what's wrong with 845 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 1: taking a guy from Georgia, you know, or Alabama? Yeah, 846 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: or you know a little bit off the beaten path. Yeah, 847 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like there may be I think they 848 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:22,399 Speaker 1: criticized Bill in the past more for not taking those guys. Yeah. 849 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: I don't have any problem with Georgia and Alabama and 850 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 1: even Oklahoma because I know Lincoln Riley's one of his 851 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: boys too. It was the Rutgers thing that that really, 852 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, your friend coaches at a low level Division 853 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: one school. Sorry Greg Bdard, but you know, and all 854 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 1: of those guys that we took, we got mccordy, you 855 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: know the rest of them, you know do the rest 856 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: of them were just average players that you could have 857 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: gotten from anywhere, Like you didn't have to tap into 858 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 1: your you know, inside connections to get Logan Ryan and 859 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: Deron Harmon. Yeah, yis jumping the sub and give it 860 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: a thing. Good for you. Be careful. But I like 861 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: the fact that last year, Like I think the reason 862 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: they were successful last year is like it wasn't overthought. 863 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 1: Bill just said, you know what you got Alabama guys, 864 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: We got Oklahoma guys. I know these guys, I know 865 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 1: the coaches. They're in the line at spots that we need. 866 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: Obviously Mac Jones is a little different because he's a quarterback. 867 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: But just find the player, find the talent. Christian Bob, 868 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 1: you know, I'd like him. I'm gonna take him. He's 869 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 1: had a program that I that I know, Bob doesn't 870 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,320 Speaker 1: really seem like to have that year. Now have that 871 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 1: crush on kind of the opposite that, by the way, right, 872 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, thank god, we can get this guy 873 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: that nobody's gonna probably get with three three words in them, 874 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: you know, right, yeah, Chattanooga, Yeah, this is this is 875 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: definitely different. Yeah, complicated almost this year that the showing 876 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: how in depth their their research was, you know, right, 877 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: we really you know, turned over every rock this year, 878 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: hit the bricks. And you wonder, like, you know, it's 879 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: become almost cliche, but you wonder, like now with the 880 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: COVID kind of being lifted up a little bit more 881 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,919 Speaker 1: and being able to be in person at games more, 882 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 1: you wonder if that allows them to reach a little 883 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,399 Speaker 1: deeper into schools and not have to just fall back 884 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,919 Speaker 1: on Alabama. And you know, yeah, you wonder. Leonel Matt 885 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 1: Growl last night gave a shout out to to the 886 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 1: Texas Scout. Yeah. Yeah, I forgot a moment at the moment. 887 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 1: But he seems very cognizant of spreading the credit to 888 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: a lot of the other guys. I mean, just in 889 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 1: the limited times we've heard of heard from him in 890 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, he always seems to drop 891 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 1: a lot of names Scouts or or you know, people 892 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: who are are they're helping him, So uh yeah, I 893 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: mean it's it's all seem a little bit a little 894 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 1: bit different. In other ways, it seems very similar that 895 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 1: they've got their board, that's their way, and they're gonna 896 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 1: take the guys that they like, and then when they like, 897 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 1: care what Pro Football Focus has in their mock draft, 898 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: as their rankings or any of that stuff. So there's 899 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: definitely a lot of reinforcement needs that have been met. 900 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: I just am gonna question what the ceiling is for 901 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: all of this because the players that they quote unquote 902 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 1: reached on, which is all in you know, perspective, there's 903 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: a reason why other people didn't think that they were 904 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: atop the board. So maybe the Patriots are right. Maybe 905 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna get out there and they're gonna drive in 906 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 1: the Patriot system and they're gonna rise up and the 907 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 1: ceiling is high. But we got to see it on 908 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: the field, and we've got to see guys on defense 909 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: emerge on the field, Like these things have to happen 910 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: over the course of the summer before we get into 911 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 1: into the games. And you know, right now, I think 912 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 1: it's a big, big question about what does the defense 913 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: of who emerges. I mean, if you had to ask 914 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: me who the starting defense look like, I couldn't tell 915 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 1: you I couldn't tell you what what who's starting at 916 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 1: cornerback or who's starting an outside linebacker or it's going 917 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 1: to be a very very interesting summer. Yeah, and and 918 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 1: joint practices will be you know, that'll give us some clue. Now, 919 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: that's a great point, fred I think that because that 920 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: gives you a sense of how they stack up. Like 921 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: we can sit and watch the Patriots practicing the Patriots, 922 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: and right, it looks like it does. But until you 923 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,839 Speaker 1: get them against up with five sacks every day, right right, 924 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: when when the offensive line right, well that's that's a 925 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 1: whole another Victually when they play against another team, you 926 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 1: get a sense of of of how they kind of 927 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,240 Speaker 1: stack up. And even then it's it's it's it's almost 928 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: on a microscopic level because you're like, well, I watch 929 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,800 Speaker 1: one on ones, I watch a red zone drills and 930 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 1: it's still but it's close, but it's closer. And I 931 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 1: still think you're going to go into this season, you know, 932 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 1: not not knowing for sure. And I mean I like, 933 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 1: I like it. I mean I think when you add 934 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 1: Thornton and Parker, that makes sense, Like all right, that 935 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: you're you've heard kind of the people light and you know, 936 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 1: you don't hear people lighting the torches, but the people 937 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: who are been like banging the table about, you know, 938 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: getting faster, having outside threats, having guys that can stretch 939 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: the field and get separation, that that buzzword. Um. You know, Parker, 940 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: he's a contested catch guy, but he does it at 941 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,399 Speaker 1: an NFL level. He's not a college contested catch guy. 942 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,760 Speaker 1: So I think they have added some elements to their offense. 943 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 1: And but who's calling the plays. I ain't gotten to 944 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: that yet. It's another interesting element though, because I mean 945 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: there's still four picks to go, and if you're going 946 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 1: to get a slot receiver, this is where you get it. 947 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: I mean you a lot of those guys are late 948 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 1: round picks. Um. But I do find that interesting because 949 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: everybody's like they need a true slot receiver. And I 950 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: get really mad at that because they have Jacoby Myers 951 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,919 Speaker 1: who caught eighty five passes, and you know, because he's 952 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 1: not you know, a little water bug out there, you know, 953 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: it looks a little different. What's the difference, as long 954 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 1: as he's catching passes on third down that are moving 955 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 1: the chains, you know. So yeah, I think that no 956 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 1: receiver for the Patriots last year, got open as consistently 957 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,399 Speaker 1: as Jacobe Myers did, made it tough catches and big. 958 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 1: You know, and I'm not telling you that he's Welker. 959 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,319 Speaker 1: I'm not telling you that he's Edelman or Troy Brown. 960 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 1: He wasn't. But he gave you that element. And everybody 961 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: is just they need a true slot receiver. Oh so 962 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 1: the style that you think that they need. Yeah, and 963 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 1: then what do they do? They did what Mike just said. 964 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 1: They went out and traded for Javante Parker, and they 965 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 1: drafted a guy who's going to play on the outside. 966 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 1: And and you know, the resuspensibly burn people down. And 967 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 1: the reason it doesn't look the same is they're not 968 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,319 Speaker 1: happening in big games because there were really no big 969 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 1: games and when they got to a big game. But again, 970 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,919 Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to pretend that he's at that level. 971 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,880 Speaker 1: He's not. He's he's he's a much different player. And 972 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 1: I do think this is probably his last year. I 973 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,760 Speaker 1: think he'll be an unrestricted free agent. He'll have decent 974 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 1: numbers that will be attractive on the open market, and 975 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 1: I think that they'll look at him as well. They 976 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 1: got the best out of him in the three years 977 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 1: that he was here. Yeah, yeah, and give us they 978 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 1: might not have come in big games for it, but 979 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 1: I think he did have some big play moments. You know, 980 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 1: when they needed a third down or they needed a 981 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 1: lot of yardage, they'd go to him and more from 982 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: the night he makes the play. Yeah, and he doesn't 983 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,959 Speaker 1: drop passes. You know, he was very reliable. He didn't 984 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,800 Speaker 1: have very many drops at all. Uh, let's go to 985 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 1: Jason and Georgia. Hey, Jason, Hey, guys, hey man, his 986 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: draft had me through the first round pick had mean yelling. 987 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 1: It'll like my brother just going back and forth yelling. 988 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: So I'm just really trying my best to calm down 989 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: and understand these picks that they've taken. And the best 990 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: thing I can come up with is that if the 991 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 1: first two picks work and maybe one of these other 992 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: picks that we've done come in, then that's the best 993 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 1: I can get for it, Okay, you know, because we 994 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:42,319 Speaker 1: had I'll take the yeah, like we were pleased as 995 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 1: play last year for three. Yeah, it's a good hit 996 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 1: with Barmore and it was a good hit with thro Mandre. 997 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 1: And honestly, I think you can only get like two 998 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: or three good hits out of the draft on any 999 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,359 Speaker 1: given year. That's right. Well, you're allowed to get as 1000 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 1: many year. Yeah, but I'll take three. Yeah. I think 1001 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,400 Speaker 1: that's a good draft. Yeah. That sure, And that was 1002 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 1: the that was the bottom line when we came into this. 1003 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 1: It was like, what do they need? Three starters? Give 1004 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 1: me three more starters, not even specific to position, three 1005 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: starters do sure? Kyle Phillips streams did I know? But hey, 1006 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 1: if he's got to go somewhere, Crabes, that's my it's 1007 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,240 Speaker 1: my my b team Collins in San Francisco. Hey, Colin, 1008 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 1: it's just in. Mike Lutsvi, Tennessee over the It's up, Colin, Colin, Colin, Hello, yes, hey, 1009 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:32,360 Speaker 1: all right? What um I'm calling in? Uh talking about 1010 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 1: the linebackers. I'm not sure what we're doing. Uh. Boom 1011 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 1: Towers looking like bust Tower. He looks like he's done 1012 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 1: years Tower. He looks like he's forty five years old. 1013 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 1: UM ran around then to Kobe d Involved into like 1014 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 1: the late third, or maybe it's the early third, but 1015 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 1: either way, he falls into the third when he's like 1016 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 1: the best linebacker in the country, wins that award. I 1017 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 1: don't know what we're doing that pick and you know 1018 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,839 Speaker 1: not picking him there the rest of the league didn't 1019 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: pick him either, Right, Yeah, he's got I mean there 1020 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 1: are I think the thinks injuries, Yeah, injuries, and then 1021 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 1: I think they're you know, even without the injuries, there's 1022 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 1: a question about his size. I mean, I like the player, 1023 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 1: I would have been lovely smart um, but I think 1024 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,319 Speaker 1: there was always some kind of like I think people said, 1025 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,399 Speaker 1: you know, this one thing to be undersized. But when 1026 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 1: you're undersized and you got a bunch of injuries, right, 1027 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 1: that's the double whammy. You know, you need a team 1028 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: that can kind of just they've had they've been undersized 1029 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 1: linebackers in the NFL before who were like, you know, 1030 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 1: even going back to Zach Zach Thomas was durable, right, 1031 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 1: but he was out there all the time. Even a 1032 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 1: Landon Roberts, Yeah, who Sam Mills, Yeah, Sam Mills. Like 1033 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,839 Speaker 1: those these guys were shorter stock, your fire hydrant type linebacker, right, 1034 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 1: and but they were out there. Yeah, you know, they 1035 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 1: didn't have the injury concerns all the time. Right. I 1036 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 1: Mean that's the first thing you look at is, oh, 1037 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,920 Speaker 1: he's small, can he hold up? Yeah, this guy's got 1038 00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 1: a lot of injuries. I guess is if he wasn't 1039 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 1: injured or didn't have the litany of yeah injuries, he'd 1040 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,439 Speaker 1: probably been in the first round. I think so too. Yeah. 1041 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 1: I just think the newer generation of linebackers, maybe not 1042 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: necessarily a hunder size, but are just so much faster 1043 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 1: than the ones we have on our roster. Like if 1044 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,840 Speaker 1: you look at a guy like Devin Whiter, Dion Jones, 1045 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,959 Speaker 1: like people coming out of the draft last five years 1046 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 1: are just so much faster, Like High Tower looked glacially slow. Hey, 1047 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 1: did my guy Malcolm Rodriguez get go yet? Not yet? Okay? Yeah, Rod, No, 1048 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:32,879 Speaker 1: you're right. And but I mean I think that there's 1049 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 1: some there's some nuance to the conversation and just how 1050 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 1: the Patriots manage their roles. And I think that they 1051 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 1: instead of drafting those linebackers, I think that they've focused 1052 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,319 Speaker 1: more on safeties and strong safeties and those guys who 1053 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,759 Speaker 1: can play in the box and can run, maybe even 1054 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 1: better than some of those linebackers. But I think as 1055 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 1: we've seen you go with safeties, you might get run on, 1056 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 1: and they've had some problems against the run. You know, 1057 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 1: you look at the off the ball linebackers. I've listened 1058 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,879 Speaker 1: them off a bunch of times in the last three days. 1059 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 1: But you know, there's a kind of versatility variety of 1060 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 1: guys McMillan, mack Wilson, mcgroan, Bentley Longie to vay In 1061 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,840 Speaker 1: hall Um, and I know that they like some of 1062 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,879 Speaker 1: those guys, probably a little bit more than them. We're 1063 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 1: even you know that we then we talk about. But 1064 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,359 Speaker 1: that's why I struggled with the linebacker position coming into 1065 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,359 Speaker 1: the draft, because you've got a bunch of guys there, 1066 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,320 Speaker 1: not a lot proven, but you've got guys and do 1067 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 1: you need to log jam it? Do you really not 1068 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 1: believe in any of these guys that you have on 1069 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 1: your roster for then why are they here? So that's 1070 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I hear your general point. I just stew 1071 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,239 Speaker 1: more towards the edge. And you know who's gonna win 1072 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 1: up front? When you know Tennessee's trying to run an 1073 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 1: off tackle and you know, is Ronnie Perkins getting up 1074 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: there and sent She's going to do what you're gonna do? 1075 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,360 Speaker 1: When Derrick Henry running like you know that that that 1076 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,960 Speaker 1: that's the concern is it's you know, even at their best, 1077 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent sure that those guys were 1078 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 1: ever the stout edge player Jeffson, Texas calling back, what's up, Jeff, Hey, guys, 1079 00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:01,319 Speaker 1: enjoy the show? Sure? Thanks? Hey? So um yeah, duce 1080 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 1: about the you know, like the Belichick haters, Man, I 1081 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 1: heard that yesterday and I was unbelievable. But I just 1082 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,359 Speaker 1: want to stay as far as you know, looking at 1083 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,719 Speaker 1: you know, Belichick in the new era with Mac, I 1084 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 1: mean I think you know the end of this how 1085 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 1: this year plays out is going to be really crucial. 1086 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 1: You know how people look at Belichick, uh, whether you 1087 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 1: like him or not. And I think, uh, you know 1088 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna see I mean Mac, you know we're gonna 1089 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 1: see Mac hopefully take a jump this year, and and 1090 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 1: u Aghalore and some other players. I mean, the defense 1091 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,319 Speaker 1: is still I know it's a big question, but I think, um, 1092 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,279 Speaker 1: you know, when we get through all the workouts and 1093 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: we finally you know, get the into the games, Um, 1094 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 1: I think you know Belichick will put a good the 1095 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 1: best he can. But I do believe that you know, 1096 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 1: next year will be I think will be a really 1097 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,440 Speaker 1: big jump next year when you know we have all 1098 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: that free agency money and look for uh, Broby Belichick 1099 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,319 Speaker 1: to make a big splash then yeah, um that really 1100 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 1: helped the team out. But you know, I mean, I 1101 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 1: know it's too early. We can't like pencil when wins 1102 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 1: and losses. But what would you guys think would have 1103 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,839 Speaker 1: to be Like, you know, you look at just if 1104 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 1: everything stayed pretty much the same, maybe you know, what 1105 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 1: will be expectations. Well, that's a good question. What are 1106 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 1: the expectations because they didn't finish the season well last year, 1107 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 1: and on paper, the other teams in the AFC that 1108 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 1: aren't going to be competing for playoff spots seem to 1109 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 1: have gotten better. Yeah, you know, especially on the offensive 1110 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 1: side of that. So so that that has made a 1111 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,279 Speaker 1: lot of people nervous. Yeah, the expect my expectation is 1112 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 1: the schedule is going to be tougher because more teams 1113 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:50,279 Speaker 1: look like they've improved and you not didn't necessarily keep 1114 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 1: keep up with that. We'll see, I mean, there's a 1115 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,800 Speaker 1: lot of you know, there's a lot of practices to 1116 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 1: go between now and September whatever. What we're talking about. 1117 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,719 Speaker 1: On the last twenty years, you know, the Patriots would 1118 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 1: play a decent team or a good team into and 1119 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 1: they beat them soundly Patriots gave the blueprint for that team. 1120 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,400 Speaker 1: Did the blueprint of the Patriots come out last year 1121 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 1: at the end of the year. That's kind of been 1122 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,400 Speaker 1: an I was kind of a narrative. I don't. I 1123 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 1: don't think so just and I mean, I almost mean 1124 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 1: it in a worse way because I just think that 1125 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 1: they they didn't play well, Like I didn't even think 1126 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 1: they played up to the talent that they did have. 1127 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 1: Like it just didn't feel like things were right. Find out, 1128 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I get what you're saying. It will find out. 1129 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 1: Was it because of the other teams were better or 1130 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,600 Speaker 1: was it because the Patriots didn't play as well? Stretch right, 1131 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 1: and we'll find out. Yeah, I think I think the 1132 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 1: schedule got significantly harder down the stretch. Yeah. Yeah, But 1133 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I just don't think that they 1134 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 1: had it. You know, sometimes teams come together and they 1135 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 1: kind of are greater than the some of their parts. 1136 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 1: And I felt like last year it wasn't even just 1137 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,000 Speaker 1: that they didn't play that well, they just didn't have 1138 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 1: any It's hard to believe that I thought they overachieved 1139 00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,440 Speaker 1: a little bit less. It's hard to believe a Bill 1140 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,520 Speaker 1: Belichick coach team could go two games without giving up 1141 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 1: a you know, forcing a punt, but it happened. He 1142 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,800 Speaker 1: had no answers, but it happened. Yeah, And that's why 1143 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,440 Speaker 1: I just don't think I mean the answer to the 1144 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 1: Jeff's question, Like everybody all gave their caveats, and I 1145 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 1: would lead with my disclaimer. There's a million things that 1146 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 1: are going to happen between now in September. But right 1147 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 1: now I see them as like a seven win team, yeah, 1148 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 1: you know, d maybe eight if if you know, Bill 1149 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 1: really really coaches it up. Now, if all of those 1150 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 1: teams on paper that look to have improved, like let me, 1151 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna use a couple because I think we can 1152 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,600 Speaker 1: all assume that Buffalo will be good, Kansas City will 1153 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 1: be good. Yeah, you know, But let's say two teams 1154 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,640 Speaker 1: in particular that I think we're middling teams last year 1155 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 1: that looked to have significantly improved with the acquisitions of quarterbacks, 1156 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:57,320 Speaker 1: Denver and Cleveland. If they both work, the Patriots might 1157 00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,120 Speaker 1: be hard pressed to win seven or eight games like 1158 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 1: those kinds of teams if they've made a significant jump 1159 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 1: in their quarterbacks are really good, like if Russell Wilson 1160 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 1: is Russell Wilson with Denver into John Watson into Shaun 1161 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 1: Watson in Cleveland, and you couldn't be Cleveland. You couldn't 1162 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,560 Speaker 1: beat to Shaun Watson when he was quarterbacking a four 1163 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 1: win team. Yeah, you know again, I go back to 1164 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 1: the angriest I've seen Mike in the three years that 1165 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 1: we've worked together, when they absolutely got steamrolled by one 1166 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 1: by one man. They got steamrolled by one guy, a 1167 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 1: four win team and he beat him by himself. Cleveland's 1168 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 1: not that bad. And if he's that guy now he's 1169 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,800 Speaker 1: been he's been away a whole year. I'm not ready 1170 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 1: to just pencil Cleveland. And as a contender, he's been 1171 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 1: away for a whole year. Who even knows if he's 1172 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 1: going to get suspended and Miami has a new head coach, 1173 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 1: you don't know. You know, there are a lot of 1174 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 1: just because that's why if they all work out, right, 1175 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 1: if Denver is better, if Cleveland's better, if Miami's better, 1176 00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,440 Speaker 1: you know, if all of those teams, all of those 1177 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 1: teams San Diego, La Chargers charges, if all of those 1178 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 1: teams have worked out, then yeah, Patriots, all right, let's 1179 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 1: take a break. We have to go to audio. The 1180 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 1: police have pulled up. They're breaking up the party, but 1181 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,600 Speaker 1: we'll hit me here for another hour. Audio only Patriots 1182 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:19,240 Speaker 1: dot com. The Patriots app right after this. 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This is 1261 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:12,280 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two Patriots Unfiltered Draft Show. Welcome to 1262 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:17,720 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. All right back here and Patriots Unfiltered 1263 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 1: one more hour ago audio only. Mike Dousseau, Eric Skellavino, 1264 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 1: Paul Parolo, myself, Matt Morrel in the booth um and 1265 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,400 Speaker 1: we're in the fifth round. Patriots don't have a pick. 1266 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,400 Speaker 1: Doesn't look like they will be moving up into the 1267 01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:38,640 Speaker 1: fifth round either. We still got time, a little time. Yeah, 1268 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,480 Speaker 1: but they have three picks in the six and one 1269 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 1: in the seventh. The problem with my trade up is 1270 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,320 Speaker 1: that if you didn't, if you didn't deem it necessary 1271 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,400 Speaker 1: to pick a guy at twenty one. Yeah, why are 1272 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,520 Speaker 1: we moving up in the fifth round? Right right? Well, 1273 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 1: maybe maybe they could still make a trade for picks 1274 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,720 Speaker 1: in next year's draft, possibly take some of those six 1275 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 1: and maybe move them to next year. Well, I did 1276 01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:02,680 Speaker 1: see I think I mentioned I mean, I think with 1277 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 1: comp picks um that they that they might have about 1278 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,800 Speaker 1: ten picks, so that's you know, they got some good, good, 1279 01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,680 Speaker 1: good quality of for next year. Yeah, like they lost 1280 01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:13,560 Speaker 1: the third round for DeVante Parker, but they got a 1281 01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,760 Speaker 1: third back from Carolina in that trade on when was 1282 01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,320 Speaker 1: it Thursday or yesterday? Yesterday? Uh? Yeah, keep forgetting what 1283 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,840 Speaker 1: day it is. Yes, they gave they got a fourth 1284 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:27,520 Speaker 1: rounder right six from Caroline. They traded away a fifth 1285 01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,200 Speaker 1: as part of the Seawan Wade deal a couple of 1286 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,160 Speaker 1: years ago whatever it was. So maybe maybe they can 1287 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,640 Speaker 1: third for j C. Probably and and maybe I don't know, 1288 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 1: a fourth fifth something like that for teddy K. But yeah, 1289 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,080 Speaker 1: they got some man on next year. That's good. Back 1290 01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,800 Speaker 1: to the phones, we go eight five five pats five hundred. 1291 01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,520 Speaker 1: It's the Ace ticket hut Line Eddie's in Florida. Hey Eddie. 1292 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:51,440 Speaker 1: Oh that's the second time now, thanks Hardy. One more 1293 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,720 Speaker 1: call than We got a lot of emails. They want 1294 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:57,000 Speaker 1: to get to Manny's in Manchester, New Hampshire. What's up 1295 01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 1: Mannie manny Chester? Hey? H one point item on the map. 1296 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:09,600 Speaker 1: I was definitely from the ohhh yeah, okay, Eric, you 1297 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,480 Speaker 1: know where? Yes, do you technically have to call from 1298 01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,880 Speaker 1: the Azores to get a pin. Yeah, technically you do. 1299 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,200 Speaker 1: I know what the rules are. Yeah, you have to 1300 01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,920 Speaker 1: be actually there, so fly over there and call us back. 1301 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,479 Speaker 1: It's forgotten. Kind of like Paul comments. I was listening 1302 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:29,000 Speaker 1: to the Yes Space podcast at one point time, Paul 1303 01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,960 Speaker 1: called a mediocre coach. Oh no, no, no, no, no, 1304 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,400 Speaker 1: I did not coach. Stop it. Yes, you stop it. 1305 01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:41,960 Speaker 1: You're embarrassing yourself. I just listened to it today. But anyway, 1306 01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,160 Speaker 1: I did not call Bill a mediocre coach. I'm sorry. 1307 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,360 Speaker 1: That's it was taken out of context. That's like Fred 1308 01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,120 Speaker 1: said that he doesn't think that mac Jones is very good. 1309 01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,400 Speaker 1: That's not what he meant. He was. It was something 1310 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 1: about something different. I've never thought of Bill as a 1311 01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,560 Speaker 1: mediocre coach, and I've never said that he's a mediocre coach. Sorry, 1312 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,160 Speaker 1: I am. I might have said. I might have said 1313 01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:05,400 Speaker 1: something like this, if you want to listen. He's had 1314 01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 1: eight plus years without Tom Brady as his as his quarterback, 1315 01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,520 Speaker 1: and in those years he's been a mediocre coach. That's 1316 01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,760 Speaker 1: what you said. That's what I said. I remember that. 1317 01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,240 Speaker 1: Oh that's what I was refering to. Its call a 1318 01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:24,479 Speaker 1: mediocre coach. Then without Brady, very very important qualifier there, Manny, Well, 1319 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:29,479 Speaker 1: I think then everybody's a mediocre coach because Tom Brady. Then, anyway, 1320 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,680 Speaker 1: any reads Indy reads not a mediocre coach, a good 1321 01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,320 Speaker 1: point caller, and he reads an excellent coach, whether he 1322 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:39,600 Speaker 1: has Donovan McNabb, stiff or Alex Smith, you think and 1323 01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,000 Speaker 1: reads a mediocre No, I'm just saying he's not a 1324 01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,240 Speaker 1: mediocre coach. And in Bill Belichick is the best coach 1325 01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:50,160 Speaker 1: of all time, Andy Reid's not Bill Belichick. Belichick's a 1326 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,959 Speaker 1: better coach. But if they both didn't have a quarterback, 1327 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,799 Speaker 1: I'd like to see who's better. But with a quarterback, 1328 01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,400 Speaker 1: Belichick was better with Brady that Indy Reid has been 1329 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:03,880 Speaker 1: with Mahomes. Belichick better than read anything else. You want 1330 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:05,880 Speaker 1: to try to back me into a corner with coach. 1331 01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,519 Speaker 1: So it was Tony dungye a media coach, even though 1332 01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,360 Speaker 1: he had a I don't think he was that Tony Dungy. 1333 01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:16,840 Speaker 1: Yeah he was. He was pretty much the definition of mediocre. Yeah, 1334 01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,320 Speaker 1: So anybody wouldn't have Tom Brady coach anywhere. No, I 1335 01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,080 Speaker 1: don't think Andy reads a mediocre coach. Listen, I'm gonna 1336 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:24,680 Speaker 1: need you to keep up. Yeah, if you want to 1337 01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,960 Speaker 1: make fun of me, I'm here for that. But just 1338 01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,439 Speaker 1: but listen. I don't mind getting made fun of, But listen, 1339 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:35,080 Speaker 1: he's trying to make his own pointing. Yeah, not anybody 1340 01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 1: without Tom Brady is mediocre. John Harbaugh is not a 1341 01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:42,600 Speaker 1: mediocre coach. Sean McVay is not a mediocre coach. Like 1342 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:44,760 Speaker 1: I don't understand, Like, you don't have to have Tom 1343 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,680 Speaker 1: Brady to be a really good coach. Everybody without Tom 1344 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:53,080 Speaker 1: Brady isn't automatically then mediocre. But you said it without 1345 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,240 Speaker 1: Tom brady's the mediocre coach. He has been, yes, but 1346 01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,400 Speaker 1: he hasn't been without Tom Brady, So it's irrelevant. He's 1347 01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,639 Speaker 1: a great coach for thirty years. He's been great because 1348 01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,200 Speaker 1: twenty three of them he was one of the best 1349 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:09,280 Speaker 1: because he's had Tom. Yes, a great coach. And I 1350 01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,600 Speaker 1: think Fred would agree with me. Would just anybody be 1351 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,920 Speaker 1: as good as the Patriots were with another coach with 1352 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:18,720 Speaker 1: Tom Brady? No, no, no, I agree. So he's not 1353 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:25,760 Speaker 1: mediocre overall the entire package, He's not mediocre. It's not 1354 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:32,000 Speaker 1: that hard. Yeah, you're looking for sorry, man, I'm looking 1355 01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,080 Speaker 1: for a document that's not there. It's not it's a 1356 01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:37,120 Speaker 1: good try. I A for effort, A for effort, you know, 1357 01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,000 Speaker 1: thanks for the call A for effort that Paul is 1358 01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:44,519 Speaker 1: itching a little bit. I think was good job, man. 1359 01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,200 Speaker 1: But there's a couple there's a couple of things that 1360 01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,800 Speaker 1: get under my skin. Listen, I say a lot of things. Yeah, 1361 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,840 Speaker 1: and I understand that on this show in particular, I 1362 01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,720 Speaker 1: get under people's skin sometimes because I don't just fall 1363 01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:58,200 Speaker 1: for conventional wisdom. I don't just fall in line with 1364 01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,479 Speaker 1: the you know, all of the narrative is sometimes I'm right, 1365 01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:05,960 Speaker 1: sometimes I'm wrong. Okay, Like I think trading away Dion 1366 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:08,000 Speaker 1: Branch cost him a Super Bowl in two thousand and six. 1367 01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:12,120 Speaker 1: I'll say that. Some people won't, Okay, I don't mind that. 1368 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,840 Speaker 1: But I don't like when people make things up. I 1369 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,799 Speaker 1: don't like when people say that I don't think Belichick's 1370 01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,679 Speaker 1: a great coach. I've once got a viscerated for calling 1371 01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,880 Speaker 1: him a very very good drafter, and Fred will be 1372 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:23,600 Speaker 1: here to back me up on that. Yea. So I 1373 01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,800 Speaker 1: don't like viscerated for years for calling him a very 1374 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,800 Speaker 1: very good drafter. Now, in my defense, that was before 1375 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:32,880 Speaker 1: like the last four or five years, it's kind of 1376 01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 1: gone downhill, right. You need in another varia, I say it. Yeah, 1377 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:44,920 Speaker 1: I say enough things that are kind of negative, quote 1378 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:49,040 Speaker 1: unquote that people don't like that. I say, don't put 1379 01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,679 Speaker 1: words in my mouth offense that I never thought or said. 1380 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:53,599 Speaker 1: There's plenty to pick from. You don't have to make 1381 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:59,320 Speaker 1: them correct. Yeah. Uh. David and Bethlehem about the quarterback selection, 1382 01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:02,839 Speaker 1: why he says, just to put a burr under Max saddle? 1383 01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,599 Speaker 1: Why not take a flyer on someone that might actually 1384 01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:07,840 Speaker 1: make the roster? Oh? No, are we sorry? Is that? 1385 01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:09,880 Speaker 1: What I'm gonna be waiting into later today is is 1386 01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,400 Speaker 1: people are upset about that the Jeffer a quarterback. That 1387 01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,639 Speaker 1: is that what's going on. They're gonna be upset for Mac. 1388 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,639 Speaker 1: I thought a quarterback was a legitimate option in this draft. 1389 01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,320 Speaker 1: Later later rounds like today, I had Bill, he's up, 1390 01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:24,200 Speaker 1: it's all my list. No, I gotta be honest with you. 1391 01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:25,760 Speaker 1: I didn't. But I don't have any problem with it. 1392 01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,000 Speaker 1: For the reason Mike says, it's good business. It's good 1393 01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,200 Speaker 1: for Mac. It's good for Mac to have another guy 1394 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,720 Speaker 1: that now Max going to probably teach him a little 1395 01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,479 Speaker 1: bit and that'll that'll help Mac process it and pass 1396 01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,320 Speaker 1: it along. It's just you know, Stidham leaves next year. 1397 01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:40,880 Speaker 1: Stidham might leave this year. I mean he fits the 1398 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,760 Speaker 1: mold of what Mac does. I think he's complimentary to Mac. 1399 01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,639 Speaker 1: But you need you need a few quarterbacks on the roster. 1400 01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:50,600 Speaker 1: I again, good business, goodness. Sam from Maryland writes in 1401 01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:54,000 Speaker 1: My Takeaways from the Draft shows so far, Paul has 1402 01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:58,320 Speaker 1: to explain what nobody means every fifteen minutes. Correct. Frank 1403 01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:01,080 Speaker 1: can't seem to get the concept. Has a crush on 1404 01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:03,800 Speaker 1: Bill of the Coach, but to his credit, unlike most 1405 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,559 Speaker 1: criticizes Bill the GM, Fred hates some New England picks. 1406 01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,960 Speaker 1: Tamara had trouble with the Cowboys draft class. How this 1407 01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:16,519 Speaker 1: guy this guy has and Eric has Eric been there? 1408 01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,960 Speaker 1: It took a turn, Yeah, that's it. Took a turn 1409 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:21,519 Speaker 1: at the end. But you know that was felt like 1410 01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:26,320 Speaker 1: an obligatory week week effort, weak effort as usual. But 1411 01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,760 Speaker 1: but that's what that's what we do. Now. I'm glad. 1412 01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,439 Speaker 1: I'm glad somebody's listening because I and I agree with you, Apolo, 1413 01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:33,280 Speaker 1: just because you know that call last night. What got 1414 01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,519 Speaker 1: me fired up was just that I feel like We 1415 01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,720 Speaker 1: talk on the radio for many hours every week, and 1416 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:43,000 Speaker 1: when somebody starts feeding back what you don't say, it's 1417 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,120 Speaker 1: frustrating because you know, I try to be balanced. I'm not. 1418 01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to be an idiot who just blindly 1419 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:51,000 Speaker 1: warships like and I don't think that that that's how 1420 01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:54,280 Speaker 1: it's like. And it's it's proof that people don't always 1421 01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:57,320 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying everybody is like this again everybody. Yeah, 1422 01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:01,560 Speaker 1: not not literal doesn't mean literal. Um. When people just 1423 01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:05,840 Speaker 1: don't listen. When someone calls you a Belichick bobo and 1424 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,960 Speaker 1: someone else claims that you think Belichick is a mediocre coach, 1425 01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,840 Speaker 1: that's proof that you had two different people that that 1426 01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,880 Speaker 1: you think two entirely different ways about the same person. 1427 01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,360 Speaker 1: Clearly they don't listen to what you say. Well it's 1428 01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,400 Speaker 1: selective hearing. But well yeah, yeah, and I think too. 1429 01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,160 Speaker 1: You put somebody into a box and then you hear 1430 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:26,800 Speaker 1: what you want to hear. I think that's true in 1431 01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,600 Speaker 1: many avenues of our society. All Right, well, I'm not 1432 01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,000 Speaker 1: going to listen to anything else. I've already decided I 1433 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:33,719 Speaker 1: don't like you, so I'm going to turn your words 1434 01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:35,560 Speaker 1: against right, I'm not going to sit and listen to it, 1435 01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,040 Speaker 1: to what you had to say. So Jared and Virginia 1436 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,639 Speaker 1: have been Night Collins or High Tower signed someplace else. 1437 01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,479 Speaker 1: If not, my guess is that Bill will resign one 1438 01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:49,160 Speaker 1: or more of them, right, I think that's the plan, 1439 01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,439 Speaker 1: Not to play the new guys we have never seen. 1440 01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,120 Speaker 1: I hope. I'd rather play the new guys we've never seen, 1441 01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,280 Speaker 1: at least I have hope. I mean, I would only 1442 01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:03,120 Speaker 1: imagine it could be High Tower, although three that I 1443 01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:06,439 Speaker 1: could not imagine coming back at a discount. Yea. And 1444 01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:08,960 Speaker 1: I mean you ditch van Noy, you had him here, 1445 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,400 Speaker 1: So I don't I think that's done right. Yeah. I'll 1446 01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,599 Speaker 1: never say never, because you're always surprised by by certain things. 1447 01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,479 Speaker 1: But I I think that would be stunning if van 1448 01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,040 Speaker 1: Noy came back. It would have to be like, you know, 1449 01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:24,439 Speaker 1: a rash of injuries, desperate knee High Tower. It's High 1450 01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,240 Speaker 1: Tower a free agent right now? Yah? Yeah, he's still deciding. 1451 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:32,880 Speaker 1: He's still deciding. Yeah, you know, um it is it 1452 01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,840 Speaker 1: is interesting that bat that none of them have been 1453 01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, sneaky. You haven't even heard of interest from 1454 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,360 Speaker 1: other teams for them? No, yeah, well he doesn't know 1455 01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,960 Speaker 1: if he wants to play or not play. And you 1456 01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,840 Speaker 1: know what happens when you're thinking about either it's almost 1457 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:52,000 Speaker 1: every sea or he's not going to play um or 1458 01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:56,720 Speaker 1: or maybe something else. Right, according to Twitter, so we've 1459 01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,920 Speaker 1: narrowed it down. Man, that's good. Connor and Boston shot 1460 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,280 Speaker 1: had that on Twitter. Bike shout out to Duce being 1461 01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,880 Speaker 1: universally panned on the Raft Show his first year, to 1462 01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,680 Speaker 1: having callers double dip on the same night just to 1463 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,599 Speaker 1: argue with him. It's possible that Mike is the most 1464 01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:16,960 Speaker 1: improved member of the Patriots organization since he came on board. Well, 1465 01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:20,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he was a colossal bust in his first raft. 1466 01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,479 Speaker 1: He turned himself into a serviceable starter. But I mean, 1467 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:30,760 Speaker 1: come on, that was a remote show. We were all 1468 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:35,879 Speaker 1: at home, right, yeah, yes, yes, that's right. We definitely 1469 01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:41,519 Speaker 1: weren't all secretly in the same room. So yeah, I'm 1470 01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:43,320 Speaker 1: just at home with my kids, trying trying to keep 1471 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:45,320 Speaker 1: up with the Draft Show. There's a lot on your mind. 1472 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:49,400 Speaker 1: COVID eight plus shows from Fred this weekend too, from 1473 01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:52,519 Speaker 1: telling callers that the phone suck and responding to Jack 1474 01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,040 Speaker 1: Jones breaking into a restaurant with well, he was hungry. 1475 01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:57,840 Speaker 1: That was a little felker like though the guy with 1476 01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,920 Speaker 1: the phone Chris Scott's your own sucks. I mean, it 1477 01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,519 Speaker 1: was miked us all the time. The theme of the 1478 01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:08,160 Speaker 1: draft so far from me is reach. Individually. I don't 1479 01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:09,960 Speaker 1: have a huge problem with any of the picks, but 1480 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,960 Speaker 1: none of them seem like top sixty four picks that 1481 01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,479 Speaker 1: can be a real difference maker. Would have liked a 1482 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,160 Speaker 1: linebacker or slash edge guy on Day one or two. 1483 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,800 Speaker 1: But oh well, yeah, yeah, me too. I you know, 1484 01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:25,880 Speaker 1: Josh Pascal from Kentucky or just a line player that 1485 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,599 Speaker 1: they don't really have. And I mean it's it's Davis 1486 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:33,840 Speaker 1: his guy. You know you got, you got cow I 1487 01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,760 Speaker 1: mean I I and this is gonna be get me 1488 01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,120 Speaker 1: laughed at um. But you know, Coward and Anderson coming 1489 01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,599 Speaker 1: back gives you maybe a little bit of a couple 1490 01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:43,599 Speaker 1: of different options. Not that I was, you know, ever 1491 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,080 Speaker 1: really blown away with Coward or what we saw from 1492 01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:47,920 Speaker 1: Anderson last year. I think he kind of felt well 1493 01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:51,479 Speaker 1: on the bubble last year. Um. So it's just you know, 1494 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,080 Speaker 1: it's kind of the same group. You know, it's the 1495 01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:57,040 Speaker 1: same group. There's not really I mean, is is barm 1496 01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna make a big jump. And you know, and 1497 01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,519 Speaker 1: again how much attention or barn Moore and Jude On 1498 01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,280 Speaker 1: getting Because if I'm an offensive lineman, you know, an 1499 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,519 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, I'm gonna say, find jood On fine bar 1500 01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:09,559 Speaker 1: More and let him. Let him try to shut us 1501 01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,639 Speaker 1: down with the rest of those guys al from Italy. 1502 01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,280 Speaker 1: I don't have anything in particular to say about the picks, 1503 01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,519 Speaker 1: but I hope the Patriots pick up someone who Mike 1504 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,120 Speaker 1: really hates so we can go crazy like Milton in 1505 01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:27,280 Speaker 1: Office Space. My hoodie did base. I'm can you take 1506 01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,680 Speaker 1: my ax? I do kind of I kind of dig 1507 01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:34,760 Speaker 1: angry slash melancholy deuce. I'm digging like the last half 1508 01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:38,160 Speaker 1: of yesterday into today. It's no I like upbeat Douce. 1509 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,639 Speaker 1: You know, I like I like, you know, I wonder 1510 01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:46,479 Speaker 1: why build database so happy? That's what I want? Do you? Yeah? Like, 1511 01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,559 Speaker 1: I know I know how little we make. What are 1512 01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,640 Speaker 1: you so happy about it? You know that's what I fake? 1513 01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:54,479 Speaker 1: More to life and money. Paul Um. Well, I look, 1514 01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm consistent. I hope, I hope I'm consistent, and that's 1515 01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,519 Speaker 1: what I try to be. And I love defense. I 1516 01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,240 Speaker 1: love line backers. I love that side of the ball, 1517 01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,920 Speaker 1: and it's just that for me is what I enjoyed 1518 01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:09,080 Speaker 1: that perfect, perfectly done, and look, they've done nothing, They've 1519 01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:11,840 Speaker 1: done nothing there. They brought some guys back, and they've 1520 01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,479 Speaker 1: got a lot of uncertainty and that that's frustrating to me. 1521 01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,880 Speaker 1: And it's even worse when you come off of how 1522 01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,599 Speaker 1: the season ended with the defensive performances. It is hard 1523 01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:24,840 Speaker 1: to sit there and wrap your mind around what you 1524 01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:26,439 Speaker 1: saw at the end of the year. And that's what 1525 01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,000 Speaker 1: I wrote last night. I kind of recapped the way 1526 01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:32,000 Speaker 1: the season ended and then to sit there and not 1527 01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:35,080 Speaker 1: really addressed defense. I don't really have a huge problem 1528 01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:36,519 Speaker 1: with it because of what I said about an hour 1529 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,560 Speaker 1: ago about maybe they're just looking at it as like 1530 01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,400 Speaker 1: we got to try to score with these teams. This 1531 01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,120 Speaker 1: is where it's going. But it is interesting and I 1532 01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,080 Speaker 1: tie it into, you know, my point about that defense 1533 01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:50,680 Speaker 1: with the veterans, and it just lacked cohesion and you know, 1534 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,519 Speaker 1: they didn't elevate each other and it didn't kind of 1535 01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,960 Speaker 1: all come together. And so maybe it's almost a sense 1536 01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:00,920 Speaker 1: of we need to reset the person sality of the 1537 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:04,120 Speaker 1: defense and that even if it seems like on paper, 1538 01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:07,760 Speaker 1: we're losing a lot of championship players who are admittedly 1539 01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,000 Speaker 1: older and not the players that they once were. That 1540 01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:12,960 Speaker 1: this is a group that, although the talent might not 1541 01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:15,160 Speaker 1: be as high or you know, jump out at you 1542 01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,120 Speaker 1: on paper, that this is a group of guys who 1543 01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:20,280 Speaker 1: were going to play together and play greater than the 1544 01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:21,880 Speaker 1: sum of their parts. And I think that that's been 1545 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,479 Speaker 1: the case a lot of times, maybe not specifically with 1546 01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,920 Speaker 1: an entire unit of defensive offense, but with position groups 1547 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:29,720 Speaker 1: over the years and here and there, and you know, 1548 01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,559 Speaker 1: and I brought up Nikovich, I think that's a good 1549 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:33,720 Speaker 1: example of a you know, a guy that that if 1550 01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:35,680 Speaker 1: you were looking at that, I mean, it wasn't even 1551 01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,320 Speaker 1: an offseason depth Hardy came in in the middle of 1552 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,320 Speaker 1: a training camp, I think in oh nine as a 1553 01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,840 Speaker 1: like a long snapper. You know. So those kind of 1554 01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,640 Speaker 1: things do occasionally happen, but I think you're kind of 1555 01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,560 Speaker 1: saying that you're counting on that to happen again with 1556 01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:51,240 Speaker 1: this group. And you know, ray Kwan McMillan is going 1557 01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:54,360 Speaker 1: to be an every down linebacker for us, and he's 1558 01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:57,040 Speaker 1: going to bring you know, maybe maybe not the speed 1559 01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,960 Speaker 1: element at linebacker that people want. But he's going to 1560 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,479 Speaker 1: give you enough athleticism that he can keep up with 1561 01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,200 Speaker 1: some of these quicker teams. Yeah, I don't. I don't 1562 01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,040 Speaker 1: know what he can do. I mean he was here 1563 01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:07,800 Speaker 1: for baarlier a week and when he got hurt. No, 1564 01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:09,519 Speaker 1: And the only thing I kind of glum onto is 1565 01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:12,080 Speaker 1: that Mayo when he talked about him and how they 1566 01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,360 Speaker 1: lost him, it just seemed out of his way to 1567 01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:16,519 Speaker 1: be like, we were really disappointed. We thought he had 1568 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,240 Speaker 1: some things that we could do with him, and that 1569 01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:20,360 Speaker 1: stuck out to me. Well, Yeah, I don't want to 1570 01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,120 Speaker 1: get my hopes up of like he's, you know, the 1571 01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,840 Speaker 1: next coming of anything. But I do think they liked 1572 01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:26,880 Speaker 1: him and thought that he could that he could work here. Yeah, 1573 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:30,599 Speaker 1: and coming off the knee injury, I just have managed 1574 01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:35,200 Speaker 1: expectations for what he can do. We'll see bart from Poland. 1575 01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:38,240 Speaker 1: Hello guys and Tamara. When it comes to this draft 1576 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,080 Speaker 1: and trading down, Paul wondered, why do so when it's 1577 01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:44,400 Speaker 1: the worst draft in years? And I agree, it's the 1578 01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,639 Speaker 1: worst draft since twenty thirteen when it comes to top 1579 01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,960 Speaker 1: end talent, but it's also the deepest class in years. 1580 01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,640 Speaker 1: Bill even mentioned it himself. He said that it's a 1581 01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:56,680 Speaker 1: very deep class because there are many COVID seniors that 1582 01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,160 Speaker 1: state at school, so I can see the value in 1583 01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:03,040 Speaker 1: accumulating eight round draft picks. I have also recently finished 1584 01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:06,160 Speaker 1: watching Seinfeld, and I wanted to thank you because you 1585 01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,320 Speaker 1: were one of the reasons I watched the series, as 1586 01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,920 Speaker 1: you sometimes mentioned it on the show. I have to 1587 01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:13,400 Speaker 1: say it was probably a top three TV series I've 1588 01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:17,160 Speaker 1: ever watched. George and especially Kramer were my absolute favorites. 1589 01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:20,800 Speaker 1: My favorite episode has to be the contest also shut 1590 01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:26,280 Speaker 1: out to Frank Costanza and as famous I stopped short, Yeah, oh, 1591 01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:28,280 Speaker 1: there's so many greats and stopped shut with my wife. 1592 01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:30,720 Speaker 1: And it's just on constantly. I think that that that that, 1593 01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,040 Speaker 1: and it's so great to hear somebody come upon a 1594 01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,240 Speaker 1: show like that that that wasn't familiar with. But it's 1595 01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,120 Speaker 1: just on constantly, So I think it's easy to kind 1596 01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,679 Speaker 1: of take it for granted, but if somebody actually sits 1597 01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,240 Speaker 1: down and consumes it starts a lot of episodes. How 1598 01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,280 Speaker 1: many episodes did that end up with? I mean, i'd 1599 01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:47,880 Speaker 1: definitely one hundred, twenty thirty, forty fifty somewhere Frank can 1600 01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:49,960 Speaker 1: give you the synopsis of every one of them. So, Fred, 1601 01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,840 Speaker 1: how many were there? One hundred and thirteen? Esperiously, I 1602 01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,760 Speaker 1: know a lot of people who know Seinfeld. Fred gives 1603 01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:00,200 Speaker 1: you the deep dive d Yeah, I thought it was 1604 01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,800 Speaker 1: more than a little more than one hundred is always 1605 01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:04,559 Speaker 1: kind of the benchmark. You get to one hundred, you'll 1606 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,720 Speaker 1: get to set. Everybody gets the big bucks, right, that's 1607 01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:09,720 Speaker 1: when them that's when the big bucks start rolling in. 1608 01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,880 Speaker 1: Do you still watch Seinfeld? Um? You know they you don't. 1609 01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,960 Speaker 1: They're not on that much anymore. Uh. He did a 1610 01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:19,840 Speaker 1: deal with um they move it. They moved it, Yeah, 1611 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:21,720 Speaker 1: or one of them, one of them, because it used 1612 01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:23,519 Speaker 1: to be like what was it TV? Yeah? They were 1613 01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,920 Speaker 1: always on every night at like seven. They're not They're 1614 01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:30,200 Speaker 1: not always on. Yeah, I stopped short. I mean, that's 1615 01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,800 Speaker 1: all he needs to say. You know, I have, like 1616 01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,439 Speaker 1: I think I have the DVDs of pretty much every season. 1617 01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,720 Speaker 1: But you know who watches DVDs anymore? You know? I know, 1618 01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:41,479 Speaker 1: I don't don't even have a DVD player, So I 1619 01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:43,519 Speaker 1: don't even have a manner with which to watch them, right, 1620 01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,800 Speaker 1: a manner I don't. I don't. Do you have a 1621 01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:49,000 Speaker 1: DVD player. Yes, I do. Really Jesus, he's got a 1622 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,120 Speaker 1: cassette player. No, I don't have a cassette players it 1623 01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:52,960 Speaker 1: next to the VCR. No, I don't have a VCR. 1624 01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,160 Speaker 1: I have a DVD player. Why because I still have 1625 01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,160 Speaker 1: a lot of DVD How do you play your A tracks? 1626 01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:59,439 Speaker 1: Stop it now, you're now, you're now, you're being We 1627 01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:01,559 Speaker 1: talked about this during the first night of the Draft show. 1628 01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,240 Speaker 1: We talked about how what a waste of money it 1629 01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,160 Speaker 1: was when you bought DVDs and you got like this 1630 01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:08,760 Speaker 1: whole library of DVDs, and right, great, like that's taken 1631 01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:10,680 Speaker 1: up space in my house when I could just order it. 1632 01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,360 Speaker 1: I have one of those racks of CDs yea, and 1633 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,679 Speaker 1: Beth won't let me throw it away. No, like it's 1634 01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:19,080 Speaker 1: it's it's mean. It's actually a you know, it's a 1635 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:23,439 Speaker 1: nice kind of like cherry wood stacked and there's probably 1636 01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,800 Speaker 1: like fifty or sixty CDs in it. What are you 1637 01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:28,439 Speaker 1: keep in this for? It's made four CDs? Yeah, it's like, 1638 01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, your shelves are like that, slide them in. 1639 01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:32,760 Speaker 1: I just don't know what people need to throw it 1640 01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:34,599 Speaker 1: away when you used to just go to the store 1641 01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:38,320 Speaker 1: and you can't listen to any CDs. I'm just gonna 1642 01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:40,400 Speaker 1: buy a CD and like, I like one song and 1643 01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,120 Speaker 1: then you just seven seven. I just listened to seven, 1644 01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:46,400 Speaker 1: Like it's such a for me and Fred it was. 1645 01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:49,800 Speaker 1: It was albums. Albums. Yeah, you had to get up 1646 01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:53,280 Speaker 1: and like, like, how did you ever find something you like? Like, 1647 01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,160 Speaker 1: now you know what I used to do. Like I 1648 01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,280 Speaker 1: used to play an album and it will always start 1649 01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,200 Speaker 1: like that, there's like one song on the album that 1650 01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:01,200 Speaker 1: I liked. But then I would say, I would do 1651 01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,560 Speaker 1: my homework and I would put like three albums on, 1652 01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,000 Speaker 1: and you know that they get finished, and then the 1653 01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:08,439 Speaker 1: next one comes on and I end up listening to 1654 01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:11,160 Speaker 1: entire albums and starting to like some of the songs 1655 01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,799 Speaker 1: that don't really get released. When fire comes on your updance. 1656 01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:18,080 Speaker 1: But you know, I'll give you an album that I 1657 01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,320 Speaker 1: used to listen to that I would like Glasshouse is 1658 01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:23,160 Speaker 1: Billy Joel Oh, yes, I mean there's like alf the Lane. 1659 01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:26,439 Speaker 1: There's like random songs that I never would have heard of. 1660 01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:30,360 Speaker 1: I loved when you stacked the albums. You know how 1661 01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:32,840 Speaker 1: I used to staff you had to buy two of 1662 01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,519 Speaker 1: each album so that you didn't have to get up 1663 01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:41,479 Speaker 1: to turn. Did you really do that? Knowing the kind 1664 01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,200 Speaker 1: of money you come from. I just assumed that I 1665 01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,800 Speaker 1: did erect the main streets of Genis. He doesn't just 1666 01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:49,360 Speaker 1: have like a like a record boy. Oh boy, yes, 1667 01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:54,200 Speaker 1: oh boy, I'll bet you though some people did that. 1668 01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:59,360 Speaker 1: You know. Uh Monterey, Mexico. This is where Enrique is from. 1669 01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,040 Speaker 1: Listen and he says, first of all, I've been a 1670 01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,439 Speaker 1: fan since nineteen eighty six, so I have seen the 1671 01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:07,000 Speaker 1: highest of the highs and the lowest of the lows. 1672 01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:10,120 Speaker 1: And I can't be more grateful to what Bill has 1673 01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:13,599 Speaker 1: done for US fans. Nine AFC Championships, six Super Bowls. 1674 01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,599 Speaker 1: He is the goat of coaching. That being said, however, 1675 01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,400 Speaker 1: why is it so sacrilegious to say that maybe the 1676 01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,200 Speaker 1: game is starting to pass him by. It happened to 1677 01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:28,400 Speaker 1: the best in history, Landry Noel Shanahan, Joe Gibbs. The 1678 01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:31,320 Speaker 1: game evolves and unfortunately the old school ways begin to 1679 01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:35,080 Speaker 1: turn obsolete. Players change Now they have the power to 1680 01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:37,400 Speaker 1: say what they want. They want to win games, but 1681 01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:39,760 Speaker 1: they want to have as fun, want to have fun 1682 01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,400 Speaker 1: as well. Maybe players and coaches don't want to go 1683 01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,439 Speaker 1: to new England because they know they'll be silenced by Bill. 1684 01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,120 Speaker 1: The last three Super Bowl winners have been coached by 1685 01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:51,439 Speaker 1: fun loving, but hard working coaches, and the league is 1686 01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:54,839 Speaker 1: getting younger, faster, more dynamic, and we still are drafted 1687 01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,880 Speaker 1: players that no one knows that Bill thinks that they 1688 01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,519 Speaker 1: are more cerebral than talented. Don't know, but maybe New 1689 01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:05,960 Speaker 1: England needs a chance change of scenery in the near future. Wow, Joneman, 1690 01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:07,479 Speaker 1: just step in and answer this one for your fresh 1691 01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:10,240 Speaker 1: Sure who else you rather have? That's right? Who's better? 1692 01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:13,200 Speaker 1: That's right? I just think there's there's a lot of 1693 01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:16,639 Speaker 1: different ways to coach, and you can be successful being 1694 01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:18,800 Speaker 1: a players because you've got to do what's right for you. 1695 01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:21,400 Speaker 1: And I don't want I don't want to believe that 1696 01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:24,080 Speaker 1: a place where it's it's really hard and it's really 1697 01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:27,120 Speaker 1: disciplined that don't work no more. You don't wait, I 1698 01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:29,080 Speaker 1: don't want to believe. I don't want to believe. Well, 1699 01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,679 Speaker 1: but it's funny, like he said, the last three coaches 1700 01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:35,880 Speaker 1: were kind of fun loving, hard working coaches. Well, two 1701 01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:39,759 Speaker 1: of those guys were old. Andy Reid and Bruce Arians 1702 01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:43,920 Speaker 1: were old, old schools, older coaches who maybe you if 1703 01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:45,479 Speaker 1: you want to make an argument. I don't know if 1704 01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:47,120 Speaker 1: it's true, but you can make an argument. But they've 1705 01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:50,080 Speaker 1: done a better job adapting with the times than Bill has. 1706 01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:54,000 Speaker 1: But I think Bill's adapted to the personalities of the players, 1707 01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:56,000 Speaker 1: Like I don't think he's the same way. I mean 1708 01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,320 Speaker 1: some of the things that people say, like, well, you 1709 01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,600 Speaker 1: don't you know you're you're not on social media on 1710 01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,519 Speaker 1: a Bill Belichick team. All of these guys are on 1711 01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,400 Speaker 1: social I mean Matthew Judon spent the whole he's recruiting people, 1712 01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,320 Speaker 1: recruiting players like I could see that fifteen years ago, 1713 01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:13,080 Speaker 1: really growing up the backside. Yeah, he's been more legal, 1714 01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,840 Speaker 1: so I think he's been more lenient now. I think 1715 01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:20,559 Speaker 1: the better argument to make against Bill would be has 1716 01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:23,920 Speaker 1: some of his ways, you know, like his old school 1717 01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,439 Speaker 1: thoughts of how the game should be played. How many 1718 01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:28,280 Speaker 1: times have even heard of his disdain for the passing 1719 01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:31,280 Speaker 1: game at the college level. Yeah, got news for you. 1720 01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,639 Speaker 1: The passing game at the college level was infiltrated itself 1721 01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:37,960 Speaker 1: into the NFL. That is the NFL now, So either 1722 01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:40,120 Speaker 1: you you figure out how to do it that way. 1723 01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:41,920 Speaker 1: And I think he is I don't think the game 1724 01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,639 Speaker 1: has passed him by no, But I understand the mindset 1725 01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:47,280 Speaker 1: of that, and I'm kind of with Duce. I don't 1726 01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:52,000 Speaker 1: want to believe that anything. Bill is seen and appreciated 1727 01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:55,080 Speaker 1: the evolution of the game over the years. You know, 1728 01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:58,760 Speaker 1: he's seen how things people innovate, people adapt, you know, 1729 01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:00,840 Speaker 1: and he's been right there with it. So I don't know, 1730 01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:03,600 Speaker 1: I yeah, and I like, I just, I just I 1731 01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:06,160 Speaker 1: just think he's the best, and just we're very lucky 1732 01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,240 Speaker 1: to have him and he should stay until he wants 1733 01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,439 Speaker 1: to go. I mean, just think about him on that 1734 01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:12,439 Speaker 1: show that I don't I forget what they called it, 1735 01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:14,320 Speaker 1: but with Brady and the Top one hundred where he 1736 01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,080 Speaker 1: was an analyst and he won an Emmy before it 1737 01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,640 Speaker 1: like that, that's the stuff right there. I mean, he 1738 01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:22,640 Speaker 1: sees the game. He knows that was special stuff to 1739 01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:27,519 Speaker 1: hear his He's regardless, But I just I find his 1740 01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:31,200 Speaker 1: insight on players and you know Ed Reid talking about 1741 01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,479 Speaker 1: Ed Reid and you know how he sees the game. 1742 01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:36,080 Speaker 1: I think that stuff's fascinating. And also, you know, I 1743 01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:38,640 Speaker 1: just absolutely ate up the football life where you got 1744 01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:40,679 Speaker 1: to see him talk to the team. I think that's 1745 01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:43,120 Speaker 1: something you never get to see in my star turning 1746 01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:45,960 Speaker 1: that you saw, Yeah, you were at the table, hands folded, 1747 01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,880 Speaker 1: you saw it. You saw the press conference. I took it. 1748 01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:51,040 Speaker 1: You got a note, you took a note down. I 1749 01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:53,479 Speaker 1: may have, but may have been that may have been 1750 01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:55,920 Speaker 1: my period of time where I was doing the crap 1751 01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:59,519 Speaker 1: date every day and up Bill said this, Um, but 1752 01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:01,920 Speaker 1: I I absolutely love that stuff. And I think that 1753 01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:04,120 Speaker 1: that's the stuff that that none of us really really 1754 01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,479 Speaker 1: see is is how does he you know, what does 1755 01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:08,240 Speaker 1: the stuff like when he takes him to a certain 1756 01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,240 Speaker 1: movie or um, you know, shows him a fight and 1757 01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:14,040 Speaker 1: talks about how the fight unfolded and how it looks 1758 01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:15,760 Speaker 1: like it's even and what guy's gonna win? You know, 1759 01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:18,040 Speaker 1: all those little coaching stories you hear over the years. 1760 01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:21,560 Speaker 1: That's the stuff that I eat up and find fascinating. 1761 01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:23,720 Speaker 1: And I mean, just any coach, how do you how 1762 01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,200 Speaker 1: do you motivate a bunch of men to work together? 1763 01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,280 Speaker 1: I love that, And I'm particularly interested in the guy 1764 01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:30,719 Speaker 1: like that that's been around for so long, right, because 1765 01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:34,000 Speaker 1: not only how you motivate the players, how do you 1766 01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:37,400 Speaker 1: motivate yourself to continue to do the money day? He 1767 01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:41,240 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like he's unmotivated, absolutely right, he looks. And 1768 01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:43,240 Speaker 1: I say this all the time. People ask you know, 1769 01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:45,599 Speaker 1: people ask me, you know sometimes at the combine frame. Yeah, 1770 01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:48,960 Speaker 1: people ask me. You know how you answer, how have 1771 01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:53,160 Speaker 1: you seen Bill change? Haven't? Like in that regard, I 1772 01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:55,960 Speaker 1: see the same guy I see. You know. I'm not 1773 01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,960 Speaker 1: with him obviously in meetings and all that stuff behind 1774 01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:02,479 Speaker 1: the scenes, but when I watch him at practice, he 1775 01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:05,559 Speaker 1: might spend a little more time talking to people at practice, 1776 01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:09,400 Speaker 1: like as warm up is going on, But he's the 1777 01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:13,280 Speaker 1: same guys, the whistles twirling, the blindest racing. You can 1778 01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:15,760 Speaker 1: see it, and I see it. And as soon as 1779 01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:20,920 Speaker 1: the season ends, he jumps into that mode of, Okay, 1780 01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:23,240 Speaker 1: you get your two weeks off, we look at what 1781 01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:26,160 Speaker 1: happened during the season, we do the self scouting, take 1782 01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:28,680 Speaker 1: a short little break here, and then we dive right 1783 01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:32,160 Speaker 1: back into it like there's nothing where He's ever indicated 1784 01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:34,920 Speaker 1: like you know, this is it? Yeah? And and also 1785 01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:37,360 Speaker 1: is uh And he's mentioned this before just the and 1786 01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:39,720 Speaker 1: I love this too now that this is my job. 1787 01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,000 Speaker 1: It's just you're being on the football cycle, like he 1788 01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:43,240 Speaker 1: I think he said, like, you know, you tell me 1789 01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:44,640 Speaker 1: what month it is and what day, I'll tell you 1790 01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:46,720 Speaker 1: what we're doing. We're doing. Yeah, same thing here, Like 1791 01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:49,280 Speaker 1: I like that too, you know, and he looks thrilled 1792 01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:54,600 Speaker 1: to be doing I'm serious. Yeah, I don't mean, but 1793 01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:58,040 Speaker 1: when he talks about that, Yeah, when he talks about 1794 01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:01,600 Speaker 1: that process, you can hell, that's the juice, that's what 1795 01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:06,759 Speaker 1: he Let's get back to the phones Melvin's and Tennessee, 1796 01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:13,080 Speaker 1: Hey Malvin, Hey, um, I liked the receiver. I can 1797 01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:17,280 Speaker 1: go ahead and with that, I'm for that one. Nice. Um. 1798 01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:21,280 Speaker 1: The question I had was with the running back that 1799 01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:23,559 Speaker 1: we got you just picked up. Do we have any 1800 01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:27,519 Speaker 1: like James White replacement? And he's not fitting that mode? 1801 01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,679 Speaker 1: I don't think right? Or is that I think that's 1802 01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:32,360 Speaker 1: what he is? Yeah, yeah he is. Okay, he's a 1803 01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:34,560 Speaker 1: smaller guy, doesn't break a lot of tackles, but he 1804 01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:40,280 Speaker 1: has electric speed. Yeah, okay, okay. I was looking at 1805 01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:42,280 Speaker 1: trying to see if that's what the direction that I 1806 01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:43,760 Speaker 1: was going to trying to go, or if he's a 1807 01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:46,800 Speaker 1: really good catching the ball by getting in late. So 1808 01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:49,080 Speaker 1: I was trying to see what you all thought of that. 1809 01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:52,480 Speaker 1: Is that the goal that they were I mean accomplishing. 1810 01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:54,519 Speaker 1: I mean, I would say it just aside from even 1811 01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:56,720 Speaker 1: that player, I think, you know, generally, I think it's 1812 01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm surprised they hadn't drafted a player like that the 1813 01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:01,600 Speaker 1: last two years. I mean, they think it was clear that, 1814 01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:04,000 Speaker 1: you know, James White had had some some injury issues, 1815 01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:05,760 Speaker 1: and I mean he's getting a little older. It's just 1816 01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:09,360 Speaker 1: they've always been so proactive at that position. It was 1817 01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:11,040 Speaker 1: a little weird not to see them, you know, other 1818 01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:12,920 Speaker 1: than J. J. Taylor, who, as we said earlier, I 1819 01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:17,120 Speaker 1: don't think you really like all right, Thanks Melvin, appreciate 1820 01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:22,160 Speaker 1: the car. Let's go to John in Pennsylvania. Hey, John, Hey, 1821 01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:24,920 Speaker 1: how's it going, guys. I'll tell you it's brutal living 1822 01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:27,120 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh to be a pay for expan. Yeah, I 1823 01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:30,360 Speaker 1: can imagine. But I'm just gonna do a little Seinfeld 1824 01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:35,280 Speaker 1: reference here watching the draft and John is getting frustrated. 1825 01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:40,600 Speaker 1: But one of the things that I guess, you know, 1826 01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:44,920 Speaker 1: living outside of the state for many, many years and 1827 01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:50,080 Speaker 1: just watching it, the big frustrating thing is they make 1828 01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:54,960 Speaker 1: these drafts and then you never see the players. There's 1829 01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:59,240 Speaker 1: always injuries or Dalton Keene. I haven't seen Dalton Keene 1830 01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:03,840 Speaker 1: in two year years from mcgron didn't play, Perkins didn't play, 1831 01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:06,960 Speaker 1: you know, and it's kind of hard because you watch 1832 01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:10,559 Speaker 1: them and you finally get like ou J and Win 1833 01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:12,880 Speaker 1: of Itch and you see him a little bit, but 1834 01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:16,600 Speaker 1: you don't see him that much. So it's hard to 1835 01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:20,720 Speaker 1: really know what type of team you have when a 1836 01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:25,960 Speaker 1: lot of these guys, whether it's injuries or whatever, haven't 1837 01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:28,599 Speaker 1: had those years to develop to really see what you had. 1838 01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:32,160 Speaker 1: I think that's what we think is coming this year. 1839 01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:35,000 Speaker 1: And I think we're all I mean, I guess I 1840 01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:38,519 Speaker 1: don't want to say cautiously optimistic. I mean I hope 1841 01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,680 Speaker 1: to be offtistic. I can't. I can't tell you that 1842 01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm brimming that this you know that this is gonna 1843 01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:44,880 Speaker 1: work out great with all these guys, I mean, some 1844 01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:47,240 Speaker 1: of them will probably pop hopefully, But I think that's 1845 01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:48,560 Speaker 1: what we're had to We're going to finally get a 1846 01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:50,040 Speaker 1: look at a lot of these guys. I think, yeah, 1847 01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:53,720 Speaker 1: And I do think this is Strong was probably the 1848 01:34:53,800 --> 01:35:01,640 Speaker 1: best pick at this point. Strong Yeah, I think I 1849 01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:05,439 Speaker 1: think Strong was definitely the best pit We'll see well, 1850 01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:08,639 Speaker 1: I think the guy to me, if you said, if 1851 01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:10,400 Speaker 1: you had to pick one guy, who's gonna make the 1852 01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:14,160 Speaker 1: team and be a starter this year. It's strange. Yeah, yeah, definitely. 1853 01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:16,080 Speaker 1: I would say it's easy to say with any first 1854 01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:20,519 Speaker 1: round pick. Yeah, but I think, you know, but unless 1855 01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:23,639 Speaker 1: the first round pick commits a felony, he's not getting cut. 1856 01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:25,960 Speaker 1: I mean serious, I don't mean cut. I mean like 1857 01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:30,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna start. Yeah. I'm certainly intrigued by Thornton, but 1858 01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:33,759 Speaker 1: I think Marcus Jones was just his ability to return. 1859 01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:36,320 Speaker 1: He seems like a ball hawk. It's their kind of guy. 1860 01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:38,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a he's a little redundant, you know, 1861 01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:42,679 Speaker 1: between Jonathan Jones, Miles Brian, the shorter, aggressive slot guys. 1862 01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:44,639 Speaker 1: But I gotta I gotta say it's not just because 1863 01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:46,720 Speaker 1: the last name. The first thing I thought of when 1864 01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:50,160 Speaker 1: I saw the bio on on Marcus Jones was Cyrus Jones. 1865 01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:53,400 Speaker 1: You know, like because everybody thought when they drafted Cyrus 1866 01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:55,280 Speaker 1: Jones the top of the second in round. I think 1867 01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:57,360 Speaker 1: he was the second rounder. But you really are like 1868 01:35:57,439 --> 01:35:59,640 Speaker 1: bringing me down because I was kind of reduced. I'm like, 1869 01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:02,439 Speaker 1: at the very least, you have a dynamic return man. 1870 01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:04,479 Speaker 1: But that's what they said about That's what Cyrus Jones was. 1871 01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:07,120 Speaker 1: He's not wrong you know, that's what Cyrus Jones was like, Well, 1872 01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:09,120 Speaker 1: at least at least I'll give you that, even if 1873 01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:11,160 Speaker 1: he's not a starter on defense and he couldn't even 1874 01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:16,799 Speaker 1: do that Houston, Alabama. Thanks John. Um, well, let's go exactly, 1875 01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:23,120 Speaker 1: And Melancholy Douche just managed made me feel Let's go 1876 01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:29,639 Speaker 1: to Scott and Chris Dale. What's up serious, hey, listen, brekin, 1877 01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:32,120 Speaker 1: is this uh? Is this phone connection a little better 1878 01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:37,240 Speaker 1: than yesterday? Much better? Much better? Paid your bill? And yeah, yeah, 1879 01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:39,360 Speaker 1: thank you. Um and and by the way, you can 1880 01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:41,120 Speaker 1: tell me my phone sucks when I'm telling you to 1881 01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:45,040 Speaker 1: shut it, but your phone doesn't suck today, Chris, good 1882 01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:49,120 Speaker 1: job exactly. Um. Okay, So I'm kind of like Paul 1883 01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:51,000 Speaker 1: in the sense of I don't like people putting words 1884 01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:53,479 Speaker 1: in my mouth, and I'm gonna, you know, make sure 1885 01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:56,559 Speaker 1: that you know because I value my fellow listeners here 1886 01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:58,880 Speaker 1: and everything, and I don't want to take unnecessary shots 1887 01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:01,559 Speaker 1: when they're they're unworn. So I'm going to spend very 1888 01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:04,840 Speaker 1: little time on this subject. But Deuce, yesterday when we 1889 01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:09,120 Speaker 1: were talking, you brought up that people like to make 1890 01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:11,120 Speaker 1: you well to be a Patriots bobo, and this that 1891 01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:14,200 Speaker 1: and the other My comment to you when I called 1892 01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:18,320 Speaker 1: in was, hey, maybe the reason people are saying that, right, 1893 01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:21,639 Speaker 1: that's the key phrase right there, is because when somebody 1894 01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:24,760 Speaker 1: gets into whatever it is about the drafts or the 1895 01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:27,560 Speaker 1: cliches about hey, you're not winning without Brady, and you know, 1896 01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:29,800 Speaker 1: you reach for every pick that you take, and you 1897 01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:31,680 Speaker 1: suck in free agency, and on and on and on, 1898 01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:35,280 Speaker 1: you do your size, you make a snide comment, you know, 1899 01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:37,800 Speaker 1: things like that. That's why people feel the way they 1900 01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:39,639 Speaker 1: feel about you. I just want to make sure we're 1901 01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:44,240 Speaker 1: clear on that whole subject. Does that make sense? It's 1902 01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:45,840 Speaker 1: now the words. He's not saying that you you are 1903 01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:48,400 Speaker 1: a bobo. He's saying maybe the reasons some people say 1904 01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:51,479 Speaker 1: that or because of that? All right, okay? Right, so 1905 01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:53,880 Speaker 1: I was and I was just speconding that that like, 1906 01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:57,200 Speaker 1: for me as a caller, who's you know, beyond dedicated 1907 01:37:57,240 --> 01:38:00,200 Speaker 1: to this show and everybody knows that who's there even 1908 01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:03,000 Speaker 1: before you were there? I love this show. And so 1909 01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:06,080 Speaker 1: when I called in and you kind of piddled, I'll say, 1910 01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:10,080 Speaker 1: on my opinions, you know, five shows ago, I left 1911 01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:13,439 Speaker 1: feeling like, you know, yeah, you know, Bills Beyond Reproach. 1912 01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:16,120 Speaker 1: Nobody can say anything, you know, blah blah blah, you're 1913 01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:17,960 Speaker 1: gonna stand on the wall and whatever. And that's why 1914 01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:21,240 Speaker 1: I said I appreciated Paul so so much, because he literally, 1915 01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:23,599 Speaker 1: just like he said to that ding that that called 1916 01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:27,040 Speaker 1: him and challenged him earlier, Paul basically, for better or worse, 1917 01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:29,240 Speaker 1: calls it like it is, period, straight down the line. 1918 01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:31,360 Speaker 1: He may not always be right. I said that yesterday. 1919 01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:33,400 Speaker 1: He may not always be right. And Paul admitted that 1920 01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:35,720 Speaker 1: to the caller, I'm wrong a lot. Literally, we'll call 1921 01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:38,120 Speaker 1: it down the line. Go ahead, start No, I'm wrong 1922 01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:41,479 Speaker 1: a lot. I mean, I'll start with rigid seymore. Yeah, 1923 01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:45,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't be more wrong. I resign, all right, kidding 1924 01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:49,360 Speaker 1: that's definitely the wrongest And Freddie getting back to the draft. 1925 01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:51,240 Speaker 1: You know, one of the prospects I wanted to say 1926 01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:54,600 Speaker 1: before my Pahl was just horrible yesterday apparently, and again apologies, 1927 01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:57,679 Speaker 1: there's a guy named Derek, kind of an odd spelling 1928 01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:00,759 Speaker 1: young and and Paul I message you with that yesterday. 1929 01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:02,639 Speaker 1: If you want to look up the spelling or whatever. 1930 01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:04,479 Speaker 1: I wanted to know if he was still on the 1931 01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:06,880 Speaker 1: board and if you guys know anything about him, Um, 1932 01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, he looks like a a sleeper as far 1933 01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:13,680 Speaker 1: as a dynamic receiver like with spies and ability to 1934 01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:16,040 Speaker 1: get open, good hands catcher, not having to fight for 1935 01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:18,120 Speaker 1: the ball, like a guess where he went to school, 1936 01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:23,479 Speaker 1: Lenor Ryan. Huh, Women's department. I wanted to say Lenoor 1937 01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:27,360 Speaker 1: Ryan exactly. That was the connection. Yeah, and yeah, that's 1938 01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:29,040 Speaker 1: just odd that he's from there. And I thought that 1939 01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:31,240 Speaker 1: was a little bit unique as well, but unbelievable draft. 1940 01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:35,960 Speaker 1: If they took another subdivision one guy right well, just 1941 01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:38,040 Speaker 1: down in the sixth and seventh round, Yeah, this is 1942 01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:42,160 Speaker 1: where you're gonna but they've already taken two, right like Chattanooga, 1943 01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:46,960 Speaker 1: so Dakota State. Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely absolutely. And then 1944 01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:49,800 Speaker 1: you know, talking about redundancy positionalwise with it with the 1945 01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:53,679 Speaker 1: cornerbacks ball, um, you know, like we already have Brian's 1946 01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:56,120 Speaker 1: and you know and Jones and what have you. Now 1947 01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:59,600 Speaker 1: we took two more guys that are five nothing, you 1948 01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:01,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Yeah, and and threw them in 1949 01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:04,679 Speaker 1: no length, you know, nobody to to work the outside. 1950 01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm just kind of concerned about that in the lack 1951 01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:10,200 Speaker 1: of linebackers and then no defensive tackle to kind of 1952 01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:13,599 Speaker 1: pair with bar more or spell bar more for arrest 1953 01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:15,599 Speaker 1: or whatever and not lose much, you know from there 1954 01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:16,920 Speaker 1: and what that. Guys, I'm going to hang up and 1955 01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:19,840 Speaker 1: just appreciate everybody and great show is all. Thanks Chris, 1956 01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:23,080 Speaker 1: Thanks Chris. Yeah, I mean they still have Lawrence guy. Um, 1957 01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:25,240 Speaker 1: so I don't think that. And I know that you 1958 01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:28,479 Speaker 1: want some Davis, you want fatties in the middle too. Yeah, 1959 01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:29,479 Speaker 1: I mean, how do how do you do in the 1960 01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:32,320 Speaker 1: playoff game last year? A refresh your memory? Nobody he 1961 01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:37,240 Speaker 1: was he was a healthy scratch nobody. Um, oh there's 1962 01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:40,680 Speaker 1: there's uh Greg the Lake the punter just went off. 1963 01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:45,839 Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah punting God to Buffalo, Matta Raisa to Buffalo. 1964 01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:51,320 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna say it, that's a terrible pick. 1965 01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:54,559 Speaker 1: Why because they don't. First of all, you don't need 1966 01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:56,240 Speaker 1: a play, you don't need to punt. You don't need 1967 01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:59,599 Speaker 1: a punter in the draft because against you just get 1968 01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:02,559 Speaker 1: one on drafted. Second of all, you get a guy 1969 01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:04,880 Speaker 1: from San Diego State who punts at San Diego State, 1970 01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:06,439 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna go and ask him to punt 1971 01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:08,680 Speaker 1: and Buffalo and it's just not good, not a good 1972 01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:12,960 Speaker 1: not a good move. Strong likes travel Paul. Yeah, we'll see. 1973 01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:16,719 Speaker 1: I think there's a reason. Look listen, I don't pretend 1974 01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:18,880 Speaker 1: to have watched any of these guys punts because I'm 1975 01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:21,759 Speaker 1: not a loser. There's a reason that two other punchers 1976 01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:25,000 Speaker 1: got drafted before this guy. I mean that he's not 1977 01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:29,759 Speaker 1: the best puncher in the class, Joey despite the bona fides, 1978 01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:33,479 Speaker 1: Joey writes in is it me or does it feel 1979 01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:37,160 Speaker 1: like every other team except the Patriots got the picks 1980 01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:39,680 Speaker 1: they wanted? I also get the feeling that in the 1981 01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:42,560 Speaker 1: past eight drafts the Patriots have been settling. Do you 1982 01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:45,360 Speaker 1: really not think the Patriots took guys they wanted it? 1983 01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:49,040 Speaker 1: I can understand where a fan would think that, but 1984 01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:52,640 Speaker 1: every team is subject to what's on the board. I 1985 01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:54,959 Speaker 1: just don't get how something people can be so confident 1986 01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:57,479 Speaker 1: in what they think, like I That's what I'm saying, 1987 01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:01,559 Speaker 1: and I'm still just that anything, Like I I mean, 1988 01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:04,080 Speaker 1: I put I put time into this, and I'm still 1989 01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:06,000 Speaker 1: just like, I don't they know they know the truth. 1990 01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm just called but like I don't like again, I 1991 01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:11,360 Speaker 1: don't operate under the assumption they're right. But do you 1992 01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:14,280 Speaker 1: honestly think they took guys they don't like, right, of 1993 01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:18,240 Speaker 1: course they like them, like some other teams took guys 1994 01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:22,000 Speaker 1: that you like, so you assume they got the guys 1995 01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:25,959 Speaker 1: they want. Like Yes, Houston, for example, with Nick Assario, 1996 01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:28,479 Speaker 1: had a Patriots like draft. He traded all over the 1997 01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:31,120 Speaker 1: board and he got players that I think a lot 1998 01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:34,160 Speaker 1: of Patriots fans are familiar with because we were looking 1999 01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:38,479 Speaker 1: at some of those guys as possible Patriots, right, So 2000 01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:39,800 Speaker 1: you look at that and you're like, Oh, they got 2001 01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:43,920 Speaker 1: who they wanted. I know that Bill want the guys 2002 01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:47,559 Speaker 1: they drafted. We may not feel the same way right now, 2003 01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:50,880 Speaker 1: by the way, we're two picks away from making another pick. Yeah, 2004 01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:54,160 Speaker 1: all right, so almost there, Russell and Arkansas. I made 2005 01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:56,679 Speaker 1: the mistake of watching the highlights of Thornton and Marcus 2006 01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:59,360 Speaker 1: Jones on the Patriots YouTube channel, and I must say 2007 01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:02,400 Speaker 1: there was movement. As Paul says, I was unaware that 2008 01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:05,400 Speaker 1: Marcus Jones is somewhat of a two way player. Is 2009 01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:08,080 Speaker 1: it possible that he makes some legit snaps on offense, 2010 01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:11,080 Speaker 1: hopefully legit meaning during a game. The only reason I 2011 01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:14,439 Speaker 1: asked is that in that highlight it shows him playing offense. Yeah, 2012 01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:17,000 Speaker 1: you better you should hope that he doesn't based on 2013 01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:19,120 Speaker 1: what they did, because they've spent a lot of money 2014 01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:21,320 Speaker 1: at wide receiver in tight end past few years, and 2015 01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:23,920 Speaker 1: they drafted a guy who's really fast. So if they 2016 01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:26,320 Speaker 1: have to be forced reduced to playing him on offense, 2017 01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:29,320 Speaker 1: I think that's a Yeah, that's I really think right 2018 01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:31,320 Speaker 1: now he might be my, you know, my favorite guy. 2019 01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:34,519 Speaker 1: Not that that's saying a ton of Marcus. Yeah, yeah, 2020 01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you. Yeah, that's just normally the case. 2021 01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:41,519 Speaker 1: You generally swayed me. Yeah, in my opinion, you know, 2022 01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:45,599 Speaker 1: I'm very wishy washy, right, and I could easily be swayed. 2023 01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:47,000 Speaker 1: That's why they hate you. I didn't know I was 2024 01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:49,080 Speaker 1: a big sire. It might have been sire do I 2025 01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:51,080 Speaker 1: sigh a lot of people that that's the only thing 2026 01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:52,600 Speaker 1: from the last call that took me by, took me 2027 01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:53,640 Speaker 1: off a little bit. I didn't know I was a 2028 01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:56,040 Speaker 1: big sire. I don't notice that you're a big sire. 2029 01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:58,000 Speaker 1: I think you're a little sarcastic. You're a little bit 2030 01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:00,960 Speaker 1: am sarcastic. I can get lost. I'm definitely a big baby. 2031 01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:04,240 Speaker 1: You are definitely I'm getting sarcastic, which and I'll go 2032 01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:06,800 Speaker 1: for the joke over like you know, like you are, 2033 01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:10,240 Speaker 1: I'll push back subtly sarcast Yeah, and I think it's 2034 01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:13,400 Speaker 1: not platantly obvious when you're being sarcastic, like snarky Paul 2035 01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:15,840 Speaker 1: is pretty obvious. Yeah, you have a way about you 2036 01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:19,200 Speaker 1: that I look and I'm like, oh, maybe that's something 2037 01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:21,040 Speaker 1: that has to do with with some of that. Uh 2038 01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:26,000 Speaker 1: that gets lost in translation. Patrick from Ottawa in Mexico. Uh, 2039 01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:29,560 Speaker 1: these draft shows have been epic. Deuce's rants have been phenomenal, 2040 01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:32,240 Speaker 1: and all the callers have been bringing the heat. Deuce, 2041 01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:35,800 Speaker 1: don't fret about the callers, because what they're missing is 2042 01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:39,559 Speaker 1: a title as a little thing called nuance. I completely 2043 01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:42,719 Speaker 1: understand your objectivity, and you have been warning us about 2044 01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:45,200 Speaker 1: the defense for a while. You are not a Homer. 2045 01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:49,679 Speaker 1: I'm quite surprised fans still haven't gutten Bill's draft strategy. 2046 01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:52,439 Speaker 1: He told us a while ago he only drafts players 2047 01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:55,960 Speaker 1: he wants to coach. Players that have superstar talent will 2048 01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:58,640 Speaker 1: not buy into his system because they know they are 2049 01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:02,759 Speaker 1: supremely talented. You really hate this draft, and ultimate really 2050 01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:07,760 Speaker 1: hate this draft, and ultimately they took stud athletes. One 2051 01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:11,080 Speaker 1: of which was thrown out of school. So you really 2052 01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:13,840 Speaker 1: have to hate this draft and ultimately will not make 2053 01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:16,920 Speaker 1: the will not take the below market value deals that 2054 01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:21,200 Speaker 1: Bill routinely offers. Less talented players will always be grateful 2055 01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:23,760 Speaker 1: that Bill drafted them and will defer to Bill, not 2056 01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:26,840 Speaker 1: make waves and take the low deals. That's why he 2057 01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:31,200 Speaker 1: over drafts players for control. Talented players will always want 2058 01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:34,160 Speaker 1: more money than he's willing to give, and this is 2059 01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:37,559 Speaker 1: considered a sound strategy, that's what he says. I think 2060 01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:40,120 Speaker 1: this is a might do so subtle, sarcastic idea. I 2061 01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:42,000 Speaker 1: know that's what I was feeling coming on right now, 2062 01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:46,080 Speaker 1: like someone really put pen to paper and things. Yeah, 2063 01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:48,479 Speaker 1: this is a good idea. We're gonna take lesser players 2064 01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,920 Speaker 1: so they'll be beholden to and we'll get lesser players 2065 01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:54,759 Speaker 1: to stay and play for us and play ineffectively for longer. 2066 01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:59,840 Speaker 1: That's what that email just said. Oh my god, you 2067 01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:01,519 Speaker 1: know it's day three of the draft when you're getting 2068 01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:07,320 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. My goodness. And to classify the 2069 01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:10,719 Speaker 1: guys the Patriots have taken in this draft, the fastest 2070 01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:14,400 Speaker 1: wide receiver, the fastest running back, the most athletic guard, 2071 01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:19,559 Speaker 1: as guys that quote lesser talented players that are gonna 2072 01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:23,839 Speaker 1: be more rapped to sign a second contract. Yeah, that's absurd, 2073 01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:28,200 Speaker 1: Like why why would have got Like if don't you 2074 01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:31,000 Speaker 1: want your draft picks to work out? Fred, Like, isn't 2075 01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:33,599 Speaker 1: the goal to draft someone and have them be really good? Yes, 2076 01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:35,600 Speaker 1: and then when you have to sign them to the 2077 01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:38,519 Speaker 1: second contract, you're not getting a bargain. Like, who's the 2078 01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:41,400 Speaker 1: last guy that signed a second con the last quality 2079 01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:45,360 Speaker 1: player that signed a second contract for below market value? 2080 01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:51,599 Speaker 1: Brian Hoyne couldn't tell you, Jay Jones, Shack. I mean, 2081 01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:56,720 Speaker 1: were their contracts Jack at the top of the market. Yeah, 2082 01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:59,840 Speaker 1: at the time, I'm just trying to like it was 2083 01:46:59,880 --> 01:47:02,080 Speaker 1: just going to say, in reality, they haven't had too 2084 01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:05,280 Speaker 1: many guys signed a second contract, right, Dietrich Wise was 2085 01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:09,400 Speaker 1: wanting I think he was grossly overpaid. Well, think about 2086 01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:14,439 Speaker 1: all the Rutgers guys. Mccordy certainly was underpaid. And when 2087 01:47:14,439 --> 01:47:16,320 Speaker 1: it came time for the other guys, Bill let him go. 2088 01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:19,720 Speaker 1: Do you think mccordy is underpaid? No, I said, you 2089 01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:22,920 Speaker 1: didn't listen. I said he's certainly not underpaid. I'm sorry, 2090 01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:25,920 Speaker 1: I thought you said he's certainly underpaid. Said thought, you're right, 2091 01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:28,320 Speaker 1: he's certainly not underpaid. My apologize. And when it came 2092 01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:31,760 Speaker 1: time for the other guys, they wanted more and they left. Yeah, 2093 01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:36,640 Speaker 1: and they paid through the nose to keep h McCurdy mc. 2094 01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:40,360 Speaker 1: They're gonna be paying him to twenty thirty. Eric from Amsburg, 2095 01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:43,000 Speaker 1: I want you guys to give me two things. For Strange, 2096 01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:46,840 Speaker 1: Thornton and both Jones we should be excited about. So 2097 01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:51,639 Speaker 1: for all of them, two things about all of them. Well, Strange, 2098 01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:53,840 Speaker 1: I think you said it before. Fred, I think you 2099 01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:56,320 Speaker 1: can pretty much pencilin. He's gonna be a start. He's solid. 2100 01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:58,880 Speaker 1: But well, I don't know how I was gonna say. 2101 01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:01,080 Speaker 1: I can't even get excited about that because whatever God 2102 01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:04,080 Speaker 1: they took would be the start, right, So solid, I 2103 01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:06,600 Speaker 1: good kid. I'll see if he saw We'll see how 2104 01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:08,519 Speaker 1: we'll see. Yeah, Man, maybe he's a good kid. That 2105 01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:12,840 Speaker 1: that's nice. I'm the other two fast. I want to 2106 01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:17,040 Speaker 1: see how fast they are because they're they've been lacking 2107 01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:23,640 Speaker 1: that in recent years. So um downfield for Thornton, the 2108 01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:27,760 Speaker 1: versatility for Marcus Jones. We haven't had a burner in 2109 01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:30,320 Speaker 1: a long time on this team, right, So that's in 2110 01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:35,760 Speaker 1: itself is exciting. Yeah, yeah, I just I'm curious what 2111 01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:39,120 Speaker 1: direction they're going with it all. And we got another 2112 01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,679 Speaker 1: pick that's about to pop up here in a second. 2113 01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:46,320 Speaker 1: But um, you know, I just I think that Marcus 2114 01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:49,760 Speaker 1: Jones is a oh it's gonna wis No, I'm just 2115 01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:53,880 Speaker 1: looking at who selection might be. He uh, you know, 2116 01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:56,200 Speaker 1: it's it's interesting. Jack Jones seems like I said, a 2117 01:48:56,240 --> 01:48:58,240 Speaker 1: little bit more of the traditional mold and and how 2118 01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:00,400 Speaker 1: does this all play out? Sean Wade all that, But 2119 01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:03,479 Speaker 1: I think they've definitely gotten faster. Um, I just have 2120 01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:09,719 Speaker 1: questions about along the line of scrimmage defensively, um Pal writes, 2121 01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:12,960 Speaker 1: and he says, I have a football crush. I have 2122 01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:16,559 Speaker 1: a football crush on Kingsley and Agbar and I thought 2123 01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:19,200 Speaker 1: he would be a top three round pick. I can't 2124 01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:21,559 Speaker 1: believe he's sliding. Do any of you have any scouting 2125 01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:24,519 Speaker 1: insight on Kingsley? And do you think he would be 2126 01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:27,960 Speaker 1: a good fit backing up Judean or potentially on the 2127 01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:32,080 Speaker 1: opposite side of Judean. I don't even know who he is. Yeah, 2128 01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:38,920 Speaker 1: I've lost him. He was taken. Uh, I think he 2129 01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:42,720 Speaker 1: got taken already. I think he gots taken by Green Bay. Yeah, 2130 01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:46,680 Speaker 1: I gotta look. Okay, Yes, he was taken with the 2131 01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:49,840 Speaker 1: last pick of the fifth round and New England's pick 2132 01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:53,880 Speaker 1: New England. Oh yeah, the double dips at a position. 2133 01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:56,000 Speaker 1: I just don't understand why you would double dip. Go ahead, 2134 01:49:56,040 --> 01:50:06,040 Speaker 1: duck officially if it's if it's on the it's not 2135 01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:10,000 Speaker 1: on the twitter position. Just draft. It looks like they've 2136 01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:14,479 Speaker 1: doubled dipped. Yeah, at a position. Just gonna wait, Oh 2137 01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:17,760 Speaker 1: did you sorry? Yeah, I gotta listen. Um, but that 2138 01:50:18,160 --> 01:50:20,320 Speaker 1: Darian Beaver's guy went to to the Giants before I 2139 01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:22,360 Speaker 1: know he was. He was one of the first guys 2140 01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:24,720 Speaker 1: I looked at that seemed kind of Patriotcy linebacker. But 2141 01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:31,759 Speaker 1: he's off the bode and come on, come on, somebody, 2142 01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:34,040 Speaker 1: come on bird just oh, here we go. They're gonna 2143 01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:37,320 Speaker 1: announce it. Nobody's tipping picks anyway. Who's that guy? Yeah? 2144 01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:42,479 Speaker 1: Who is that guy? Kevin Harris running back South Carolina. Yeah, 2145 01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:46,360 Speaker 1: so another running back I off of my Oh they're 2146 01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:49,320 Speaker 1: not even doing it. Um, yeah, it wasn't familiar, but 2147 01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:52,880 Speaker 1: but South Carolina and the Beast just has a physical 2148 01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:55,160 Speaker 1: appetite and hammers what is blocked for him? But his 2149 01:50:55,280 --> 01:50:59,920 Speaker 1: monotone speed and bland creativity, creativity lower his next level ceiling. 2150 01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:05,519 Speaker 1: He had seventeen one hundred yards. Uh did he say speed? Yeah, 2151 01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:07,680 Speaker 1: monotone speed. I don't know if that that doesn't make sense. 2152 01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:09,120 Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. I only got one tone 2153 01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:11,360 Speaker 1: of speed. Yeah, he only has one gear, one gear 2154 01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:13,720 Speaker 1: right when you look at it. That I mean, I 2155 01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:16,320 Speaker 1: know what he's trying to say. But yeah, yes, but 2156 01:51:16,720 --> 01:51:18,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying it. He doesn't have a change. But if 2157 01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:22,000 Speaker 1: that gear is really fast, obviously it's not. But he's 2158 01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:26,439 Speaker 1: about a special teamer. Yeah, for six two forty right, 2159 01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:30,519 Speaker 1: drafting special teamers. So we are in the sixth round. Yeah, well, 2160 01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:32,560 Speaker 1: I mean we always have it. That's what undrafted, you know. 2161 01:51:32,680 --> 01:51:34,400 Speaker 1: I mean I think this is a you know, the 2162 01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:38,479 Speaker 1: previous the previous guy was more of a receiver back 2163 01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:41,719 Speaker 1: and this is you know what, Harrison, I don't understand 2164 01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:44,080 Speaker 1: why would draft two running backs because one is a 2165 01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:47,840 Speaker 1: special teamer. I can get a special team. It's not 2166 01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:49,960 Speaker 1: drafted free agent like you did, Brandon Bolden. You got 2167 01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:54,519 Speaker 1: a draft. Guys, draft somebody better. I'm not kidding. Give 2168 01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:56,320 Speaker 1: me the guy. I don't know. I'm not I'm not 2169 01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:59,200 Speaker 1: a scout. I'm not even saying better something that you 2170 01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:04,000 Speaker 1: need special teams don't need. You don't need special teams 2171 01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:06,519 Speaker 1: on this team. No, you don't, Fred, They've they've dropped 2172 01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:10,120 Speaker 1: off a little. Fred, I have no doubt that there 2173 01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:13,640 Speaker 1: are special teams needs. You don't need to draft them, 2174 01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:17,560 Speaker 1: right Like Brandon Bolden was this quality special teamer for 2175 01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:21,960 Speaker 1: a lot of years. They didn't draft him rights, right Like, 2176 01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:23,680 Speaker 1: you don't have to have a running back in the 2177 01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:25,920 Speaker 1: sixth round. You don't have. You already have four running 2178 01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:27,479 Speaker 1: you don't have to. But if you think this guy 2179 01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:30,599 Speaker 1: can be good, then you draft him. Oh he seems 2180 01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:32,519 Speaker 1: I mean I don't that's me signing into the microphone. 2181 01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:35,280 Speaker 1: I don't really see any of his specials on the 2182 01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:38,639 Speaker 1: block right or gone next year? Well, I think he'll 2183 01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:40,600 Speaker 1: be gone next year. But you don't have to, you know, 2184 01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:44,679 Speaker 1: draft the guy in the sixth round. So yeah, Harris 2185 01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:49,479 Speaker 1: Romandre Stevenson, James White, Pierre Strong now and this guy 2186 01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:58,240 Speaker 1: Jjju Montgomery time Montgomery another one? Yeah, yeah, I mean 2187 01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:01,760 Speaker 1: that isn't he a special teamer? No? I think he 2188 01:53:01,960 --> 01:53:06,680 Speaker 1: he uh, he projects to be in the offense, but 2189 01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:08,479 Speaker 1: he's a special team or Brandon Bouldo was in the 2190 01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:10,920 Speaker 1: offense last year too, he was a special teamer. Well, 2191 01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:13,080 Speaker 1: he had to because of INSI I mean, I know, 2192 01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:15,760 Speaker 1: but he has eight running backs on the RESTERNT. Yeah right, 2193 01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:17,759 Speaker 1: I mean I know they're usually run by a committee, 2194 01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:20,800 Speaker 1: but I think your committee was already. I just listen. 2195 01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:23,760 Speaker 1: It's a sixth round pick. No one cares. I get it, 2196 01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:27,040 Speaker 1: but I just where is he from? You couldn't get 2197 01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:30,200 Speaker 1: another like you know what I pick here, like a guard, 2198 01:53:31,720 --> 01:53:34,040 Speaker 1: another guy at that depth that might be able to 2199 01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:36,400 Speaker 1: provide some depth for you, and you know, maybe he's 2200 01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:39,680 Speaker 1: better than Justin Haran. Yeah, or you know, I don't know, 2201 01:53:39,880 --> 01:53:42,519 Speaker 1: somebody big fatty, take a big fatty or slot defense 2202 01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:47,160 Speaker 1: or defense or tackle to slot receiver. But Jacob Hellman 2203 01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:50,240 Speaker 1: writes in um am, I supposed to say last names anyway, 2204 01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:54,400 Speaker 1: he's from He's from Virginia. I'm loving the draft. After 2205 01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:57,240 Speaker 1: years of complaining that the Patriots are old and slow, 2206 01:53:57,640 --> 01:54:00,439 Speaker 1: we're taking athletes. I brought him up to one. But 2207 01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:03,599 Speaker 1: the final step is to trade up asap and get 2208 01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:07,519 Speaker 1: a Mari Barno from Virginia tech edge player with a 2209 01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:12,720 Speaker 1: four three sixty. Yeah, at least we're old and a 2210 01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:15,720 Speaker 1: little bit faster. Now we still have the oldest roster 2211 01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:17,640 Speaker 1: in the league, but at least we have a little speed. Oh, 2212 01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:19,400 Speaker 1: we're coming up on my favorite part of the draft, 2213 01:54:19,680 --> 01:54:21,519 Speaker 1: which is when it's over and they tell you who 2214 01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:23,400 Speaker 1: you got and you're like, oh, I mean, I enjoy 2215 01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:25,479 Speaker 1: the process and this has been wonderful and fun. But 2216 01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like I was a Paul White comment 2217 01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:29,680 Speaker 1: right there. But but it's just so much of a 2218 01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:31,920 Speaker 1: relief when you could get off of what about Jim's 2219 01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:38,320 Speaker 1: spokenheimer from Oregon. Yeah, give me the ten guys, let 2220 01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:40,000 Speaker 1: me go look at them. This is what we got 2221 01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:42,120 Speaker 1: to look forward to this summer, you know. I mean, 2222 01:54:42,160 --> 01:54:44,120 Speaker 1: the journey of the draft shows is awesome and all that. 2223 01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:45,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to downplay that, but but I respect 2224 01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:48,360 Speaker 1: the guys that like can sit there and legitimately call 2225 01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:50,120 Speaker 1: it and a lot of talk they need to trade 2226 01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:53,280 Speaker 1: up a SAP to get this guy. Yet, ye seven, 2227 01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:57,040 Speaker 1: one more call. We're getting to the end of the show. 2228 01:54:57,200 --> 01:55:02,440 Speaker 1: Will's in Houston, Texas. What's up Will? Will? He said 2229 01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:07,200 Speaker 1: that was Will Phil. Well, where there's a Will, there's 2230 01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:10,080 Speaker 1: no way. Sorry about that. Will Johnson and Porter's Lake 2231 01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:13,720 Speaker 1: Nova Scotia just started listening to the show today, But 2232 01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm happy with these day three picks. Strong could do 2233 01:55:16,760 --> 01:55:18,960 Speaker 1: very well for himself in this system. He'll play this 2234 01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:21,880 Speaker 1: year and his sweet feet is a no go. He 2235 01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:24,480 Speaker 1: will be able to step up into that role. Jack 2236 01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:27,320 Speaker 1: Jones is solid as well. I would not be surprised 2237 01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:29,800 Speaker 1: if he could be cornerback one or two by the 2238 01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:38,880 Speaker 1: end of the year. Okaya's best available, Todd, Todd, you 2239 01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:41,120 Speaker 1: gotta go up and get him right. That was my 2240 01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:44,160 Speaker 1: That was my mel Kipery Scott wants to know how 2241 01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:46,840 Speaker 1: many games will Bill win you as a coach for 2242 01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:50,520 Speaker 1: his Bill as a GM an he will anyone willing 2243 01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:52,680 Speaker 1: to take a shot at this question. Pretend you're not 2244 01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:56,680 Speaker 1: on the payroll. How many games will Bill win you 2245 01:55:56,760 --> 01:55:59,800 Speaker 1: as a coach for his Bill as a GM That's 2246 01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:04,000 Speaker 1: like an impossible to seven and twenty four. I don't know, random, 2247 01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:05,800 Speaker 1: Like I don't do you look at it and say, like, 2248 01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:08,840 Speaker 1: no other coach could have won that game today, Like 2249 01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:13,120 Speaker 1: that game plan was Bill Belichick. Only we've said that before. No, no, no, 2250 01:56:13,200 --> 01:56:16,840 Speaker 1: I know, we absolutely do, But that doesn't mean it's true, 2251 01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:20,320 Speaker 1: right You know, but maybe uh, and then I don't. 2252 01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:21,760 Speaker 1: I don't have an example at the top of my head, 2253 01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:24,240 Speaker 1: but maybe a GM example is, oh, they were really 2254 01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:27,240 Speaker 1: shorthanded and he pulled it together, or even a season 2255 01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:29,760 Speaker 1: he pulled it together with some guy. I guess that's 2256 01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:31,920 Speaker 1: a coach thing. Never mind, never mind. I don't talk 2257 01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:33,720 Speaker 1: myself out of the well I was going. I just 2258 01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:36,720 Speaker 1: it's it's a hard thing to quantify. Like, I think 2259 01:56:36,760 --> 01:56:38,400 Speaker 1: Bill is a really good coach. I think every week 2260 01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:41,520 Speaker 1: they're they're very prepared to play. I think his his 2261 01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:45,040 Speaker 1: exes and o's and game plan preparation. I think it's 2262 01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:47,120 Speaker 1: really good. I mean every week. It doesn't mean I 2263 01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:49,840 Speaker 1: agree with the game plan every week. I'll give you 2264 01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:52,640 Speaker 1: an example. They played the Bills in a very similar 2265 01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:55,720 Speaker 1: style defensively in the game the day after thinks that 2266 01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:59,200 Speaker 1: day after Christmas and the playoffs, like the playoff game. 2267 01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm looking and I'm thinking, they didn't change anything. It's 2268 01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:05,200 Speaker 1: the same exact result. What would you like? It almost 2269 01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:09,240 Speaker 1: told me that he still thinks Josh Allen can't play. Yeah, yeah, 2270 01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, But for the most part, I don't think 2271 01:57:12,160 --> 01:57:15,320 Speaker 1: he does that. I think he's generally got very good plans. 2272 01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:18,840 Speaker 1: But does that mean that Build the coach cost him 2273 01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:24,480 Speaker 1: to buy seven the GM put together and bring up 2274 01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:26,840 Speaker 1: like if these two corners end up playing and playing 2275 01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:30,200 Speaker 1: well and the defense wins the game, Okay, it's a combination. 2276 01:57:30,320 --> 01:57:34,040 Speaker 1: He Build, the GM brought him in, but Build the 2277 01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:36,960 Speaker 1: coach coached him up. You know, So, I mean I 2278 01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:39,080 Speaker 1: think that's a good example. Oh seven is I mean, 2279 01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:41,880 Speaker 1: they just they housed every they but all the talent. 2280 01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:44,600 Speaker 1: They got braverybody in the off season. They stocked the 2281 01:57:44,680 --> 01:57:48,200 Speaker 1: receiver position that was built that Bill Bill Build the 2282 01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:52,080 Speaker 1: GM was the seven Tom the quarterback. Yeah. Sure, well 2283 01:57:52,120 --> 01:57:53,840 Speaker 1: I gave him the weapons, of course. Well but yeah, 2284 01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:55,480 Speaker 1: but he had never done what he had done up 2285 01:57:55,520 --> 01:57:59,280 Speaker 1: to seven. That's when he turned into pinball office. You know. 2286 01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:02,480 Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna be it for this edition and 2287 01:58:02,720 --> 01:58:09,120 Speaker 1: the last show of the Draft extravagances. Thank everyone, good job, 2288 01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:16,760 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, thank everyone for listening in the last three days. Um, 2289 01:58:17,200 --> 01:58:19,280 Speaker 1: there's more to come on Patriots dot com. There's a 2290 01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:22,600 Speaker 1: few more picks for the Patriots Tuesday. We'll be back 2291 01:58:22,640 --> 01:58:25,000 Speaker 1: to our regular schedule if you have If you don't 2292 01:58:25,040 --> 01:58:28,680 Speaker 1: listen to us during the week, you should Tuesdays and 2293 01:58:28,800 --> 01:58:32,760 Speaker 1: Thursdays at noon during the offseason, so that'll be your 2294 01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:35,080 Speaker 1: next chance to talk to us, so we'll see you then. 2295 01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:40,880 Speaker 1: Thank you for downloading this podcast, Subscribe on Apple, google Play, 2296 01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:43,960 Speaker 1: and everywhere else you listen. 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