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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece.

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Speaker 2: The mystery deepens as two women, Melissa and Sittlana, go

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Speaker 2: missing about six miles apart from each other and the

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Speaker 2: same time span. This all happening at Winter Park, Colorado.

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Speaker 2: How do two women seemingly vanish into thin air just

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Speaker 2: six miles apart, just days apart? Are they connected? I'm

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Speaker 2: Nancy Grece, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being

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Speaker 2: with us here at Fox Nation and series XEM one eleven.

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Speaker 2: First of all, take a listen to our forensic k

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Speaker 3: So we did what a mom and dad would do

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Speaker 3: and get in the so flights didn't work, so we

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Speaker 3: started driving, and so we just appreciate any help and all.

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Speaker 2: We're just trying to keep her face alive.

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Speaker 3: We're trying to keep her out there.

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Speaker 4: If you think you know where Melissa is, you're asked

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Speaker 4: to please get in touch with the Denver Police Department.

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Speaker 2: Out of the two women were first addressing a beautiful

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Speaker 2: young girl, Melissa whits it In joining me right now,

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Speaker 2: her mom and dad calling from Tennessee. Mister and missus Whitston,

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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for having us so much. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: No man, please, it's it's our honor to have you.

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Speaker 2: We're doing all we can do to help find these

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Speaker 2: two beautiful women. Tip line nine seven zero seven two

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Speaker 2: seven two to two seven seven seven nine, Miss Whitset.

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Speaker 2: When did you realize that Melissa is missing?

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Speaker 5: It was actually Tuesday morning, Monday. She was off work

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Speaker 5: and we didn't reach her, and that was not unusual

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Speaker 5: because we didn't know that was her day off. We

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Speaker 5: thought she was working that day. Some days in weeks,

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Speaker 5: they switched it from Sunday Monday to Monday Tuesday, so

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Speaker 5: when she was working as a chef, she would not

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Speaker 5: have her phone and typically we wouldn't talk to her

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Speaker 5: till the evening. So on the evening of Monday the fourteenth,

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Speaker 5: she didn't answer her phone and we couldn't reach her,

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Speaker 5: and there was no and we were very concerned Monday evening,

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Speaker 5: but there was no one for me to reach out

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Speaker 5: to until that I had contact with until the workers

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Speaker 5: return to work on Tuesday morning. I sent an email

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Speaker 5: to her supervisors in her place of employment and they

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Speaker 5: responded that Melissa had not shown up Tuesday morning and

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Speaker 5: that they were sending out a wellness check, and they

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Speaker 2: So they did send out a wellness check. And what

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Speaker 5: That They went to her apartment and the things were

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Speaker 2: Guys. Winter Park is what we call a home rural municipality,

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Speaker 2: Grand County, Colorado. It's about sixty seven miles from Denver. Now.

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Speaker 2: The permanent population is one thousand and thirty three on

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Speaker 2: the last sentence, but the town swells when it's I

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Speaker 2: guess ski season. So you've got a very very low population,

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Speaker 2: which would narrow a pool of suspects that could be

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Speaker 2: interested in kidnapping or harming. This young woman, beautiful, tell

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Speaker 2: me about her job as a chef. Where does she work.

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Speaker 5: She works at the winter Park resort. And she actually

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Speaker 5: was thrilled to get Sunspot Lodge, which is a restaurant.

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Speaker 5: It's the highest peak in winter Park. The lodge is

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Speaker 5: on top of the mountain, so she got to ride

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Speaker 5: the pardoner. I may not be pronouncing this right. The

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Speaker 5: it there. And she would ride that up to the

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Speaker 5: side of the mountains to work every day. I think

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Speaker 5: it's like eleven miles. But she was the assistant shift.

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Speaker 5: She was not the main chef there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, she's the main chef in the making. That's a

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Speaker 2: really hard spot to get. I mean, I researched Winter

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Speaker 2: right now. It's amazing. And the thing about it is

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Speaker 2: the Denver area Denver included not only attracts thousands and

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Speaker 2: thousands of tourists and visitors during snow season, but off

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Speaker 2: the aspen trees. It will be whole groves of aspens,

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Speaker 2: the summertime. When Melissa goes missing. Had she mentioned let's

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Speaker 2: go to Melissa's dad, Jerry whitson joining us. Jerry, also,

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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us, mister Woodset. Had she

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Speaker 6: At all, No, ma'am. Nothing. There was no mention of

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Speaker 6: I went I went hiking with some friends, or a

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Speaker 2: Now would she have told you.

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Speaker 6: I feel like she would have told us. I mean,

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Speaker 6: she would have She would have made us aware of

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Speaker 2: So Melissa last saying August thirteen, she fails to show

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Speaker 2: it for work and just a very short drive away

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Speaker 2: six miles away at the Dead Horse Trailhead area, a

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Speaker 2: search COMMITSS to find set Lana Yutzemenko. Are the two

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Speaker 2: disappearances connected? Take a listen now from our forensic KUSA.

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Speaker 7: First responders in Grand County are searching for a woman

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Speaker 7: they found her car parked at a trailhead. The Grand

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Speaker 7: County Sheriff's Office says they first noticed the car parked

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Speaker 7: at the dead Horse trailhead near Frasier. The car was

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Speaker 7: a rental was due to be returned on Thursday, but

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Speaker 7: So investigators started looking into it and they found that

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Speaker 7: car was connected to Svetlana Ustamenco.

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Speaker 2: And more from our Forensic Crime online.

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Speaker 8: On August thirteenth, the same day that Melissa wits It

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Speaker 8: was last seen, a press release came out reguarding missings

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Speaker 8: of Winter Park. Authorities have not indicated that the two

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Speaker 8: missing and endangered cases are related, but authorities are asking

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Speaker 8: if you know anything about the disappearance of Melissa Witzet

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Speaker 8: or Svetlana Ustamenko to call the non emergency number for

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Speaker 8: Grand County Dispatch at nine seven zero seven two five

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Speaker 2: Joining us right now in addition to mister and missus

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Speaker 2: Whitshead desperately asking for your help to find her daughter.

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Speaker 2: Melissa is Spencer McKee, director of content for Out There Colorado, Spencer,

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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. You can find him

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Speaker 2: out there Colorado dot com. Spencer, tell me about this

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Speaker 2: area where the two of them go missing.

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Speaker 9: Thanks for having me. So the winter Park area's definitely

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Speaker 9: count the popular monk tours a year round, like you

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Speaker 9: were saying, outside of the general town areas and where

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Speaker 9: there's a lot of the population, it's very rugged terrain.

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Speaker 9: There are a lot of maintained trails in the area,

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Speaker 9: but once you step off of those trails, it gets

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Speaker 9: really rugged, really quickly. So I know that's something the

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Speaker 9: authorities have been looking into. In the case of Stetlana.

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Speaker 9: We're basically they've been looking off trail and it's it's

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Speaker 2: But isn't it true, Spencer McKee joining us from out there, Colorado,

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Speaker 2: that all possibilities have been exhausted. There have been drugs,

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Speaker 2: there have been foot searches, there have even been cadaver

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Speaker 2: in the search force Svetlana. Is that true?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, So that's accurate, and authorities have said that they

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Speaker 9: believe that she is not located in their primary search area.

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Speaker 9: So generally, whenever they'll do a search like this, they

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Speaker 9: they use a grid approach where they basically looked in

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Speaker 9: that they've exhausted their efforts in the primary search area

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Speaker 2: And take a listen our friend Dave Mack.

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Speaker 8: During the week of July thirty first, a US Forest

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Speaker 8: Service law enforcement officer noticed a twenty twenty two Nissan

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Speaker 8: release from the Grand County Sheriff's Office. To the officer,

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Speaker 8: it appeared the vehicle had been parked in the same

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Speaker 8: spot for an extended period of time without moving. Researching

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Speaker 8: the Louisiana license plate on the car, it was determined

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Speaker 8: the vehicle was a rental and not due to be

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Speaker 2: That's right at that point, and they've gone back and

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Speaker 2: forth by this vehicle. They see that it's been there

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Speaker 2: for days, and there are many ways you can tell

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Speaker 2: that a car has been parked for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Joining me, Arlee Walters out of Colorado Springs, Colorado, president

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Speaker 2: of ex Caliber Private Investigation, former special agent with the FBI.

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Speaker 2: You can find him at a Caliber Illegal Support dot com.

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Speaker 2: Arlee Walters, thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 10: You're happy to be here.

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Speaker 2: To any trained cop or investigator, you can very often

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Speaker 10: How we I mean, mainly tracks and you know, just

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Speaker 10: know is are you know, dirt on a vehicle? Well,

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Speaker 2: But that car sat there unmoved for days on end

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Speaker 2: when it wasn't returned. A search ensues on August eleven.

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Speaker 2: Listen our Friends KUSA.

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Speaker 7: Nine Svetlana used to Menco. She's from Florida.

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Speaker 2: She's missing.

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Speaker 7: So first responders searched the area around the car three

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Speaker 7: days in a row. They used search and rescue crews,

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Speaker 7: they used dogs, drones. Still no sign of used to Menco.

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Speaker 7: The Sheriff's office is now hoping that some hikers and

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Speaker 7: mountain bikers may have seen her on the trail or

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Speaker 7: even maybe gave her a ride somewhere else. So anybody

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Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Both of these women who seemingly vanish off the face

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Speaker 2: of the earth are from other places. Their families are

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Speaker 2: not there. Felana Izzemenko is from Florida. Melissa is from

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Speaker 2: is she originally from Tennessee? Jerry, yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 6: She's actually born in Richmond, Virginia, but she's lived in

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Speaker 2: Does she have any family living there in Colorado? Or

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Speaker 2: did she go there chasing her dream?

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Speaker 6: She went there to chase her dream, which was to

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Speaker 6: do something that deals with outdoors. She just absolutely loved

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Speaker 6: being outdoors. She loved to hike, and she just wanted

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Speaker 2: Drawn to Colorado because of the beauty, the natural beauty,

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Speaker 2: and an awesome, almost unheard of chance to be a

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Speaker 2: Caliber Private Investigation. That is a lot of effort, and

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Speaker 2: Do we know, Specer McKee, if there was an entry gate.

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Speaker 9: Most gate entries in Colorado would be at state parks

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so that's always going to be one of the

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Speaker 9: In this case specifically, I'm not sure if they've made contact.

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Speaker 8: Cindy Whitsit, Melissa's mother, in an interview with CBS Denver, says,

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Speaker 12: Melissa Whitst moved from Tennessee to Colorado in May to

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Speaker 3: There's not been a lot of law enforcement availability to

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Speaker 2: Wendy Patrick, I've never heard anything like it in my life.

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Speaker 2: Brian Coburger that poc remember, a clerk at a local,

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Speaker 2: you know, like a quickie store, gas station, takes it

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Speaker 2: upon herself to go through days and days and days

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Speaker 2: of surveillance video and she finds Coburger's car zooming past

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Speaker 2: the night of the murders and the wee morning hours.

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Speaker 2: That's how we ever found out about the why Elantra.

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Speaker 2: That is not what victim's families want to hear we

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Speaker 2: don't have time for your case.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's definitely not what they want to hear. In fact,

443
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Speaker 11: they're not supposed to be doing the investigation. Law enforcement

444
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Speaker 11: is supposed to be doing the investigation.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 11: It reminds me of, you know, defund the police and

447
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Speaker 11: danger the public. If they don't have enough people at

448
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Speaker 11: a particular jurisdiction, they need to get more. And while

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Speaker 11: it's true that citizens often are concerned and creative enough

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Speaker 11: to come up with all sorts of old fashioned evidence

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Speaker 11: that help detectives crack the case, we need enough detectives

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Speaker 11: to work on the case. And I can't imagine how

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Speaker 11: heartbreaking and frustrating it is to hear that an office,

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Speaker 11: any detective's office is outnumbered.

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Speaker 2: To doctor Carla Manley joining US clinical psychologist and author.

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Speaker 2: You can find her at Doctorcarlamanly dot com, doctor Manley WAYM.

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Speaker 13: It's so important when we're looking at incidents like this

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Speaker 13: to notice.

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Speaker 5: That predators really target.

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Speaker 13: Those who they see as well lovel and that's the

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Speaker 13: piece that I see as the common thread. We have

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Speaker 13: two single women and they are you know, apparently are

463
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Speaker 13: on their own, living alone, starting a fresh life, and

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Speaker 13: they don't have a cohesive family or support structure that

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Speaker 13: we know of, and that makes them prime targets for

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Speaker 13: skilled predators, because that's what predators are looking for, the

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Speaker 13: person or people who are vulnerable in a crowd. To me,

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Speaker 13: that's the most salient thread in the.

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Speaker 2: Situation mystery surrounding the disappearance of two beautiful young women

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Speaker 2: who go missing from a small Colorado resort town and

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Speaker 2: notably within days of each other and just six miles apart.

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Speaker 2: Question to you, Wendy Patrick, what's your take on two

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Speaker 2: young women going missing a few miles apart within days

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Speaker 2: of each other.

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Speaker 11: It makes it sound like they're a common denominator suspect wise,

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Speaker 11: and because it's not targeting so much some kinds of

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Speaker 11: things that you might think, well, it's acquaintance rape, or

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Speaker 11: it's a family scenario. It's two strangers tied by geography,

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Speaker 11: and when you think about the timing being so close,

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Speaker 11: it really makes it suspicious that the same person or

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Speaker 11: persons were involved. And that's one of the clues that

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Speaker 11: we can at least use at the beginning, especially when

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Speaker 11: you had two women who don't know each other, and

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Speaker 11: that was The very first thing that stuck out to

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Speaker 11: me when I read.

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Speaker 2: This story, well, that they don't know each other and

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Speaker 2: they're seemingly no connection. But then we find out more

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Speaker 2: regarding Melissa's taste her disappearance. Take a listen to our

489
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Speaker 2: friend at crime Online.

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Speaker 8: In an interview with CBS Denver, her parents say an

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Speaker 8: unknown man was speaking on her phone that day. Investigators

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Speaker 8: looking into her disappearance found an unknown man had used

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Speaker 8: her phone to speak to people in the Denver area

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Speaker 8: on the day she vanished, but the phone has been

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Speaker 8: off ever since. Her debit card has not been used

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Speaker 8: since she went missing. What's it, doesn't have a car

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Speaker 8: and hasn't contacted friends or family since the day she

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Speaker 8: was last seen.

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Speaker 2: Spencer McKee joining us out there Colorado dot com. So

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Speaker 2: they've got an unknown man, a man not connected to Melissa,

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Speaker 2: using her phone in the Denver area, and this is

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Speaker 2: after she had taken a bus we believe to the

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Speaker 2: Denver area. Is that right?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 9: Yes, that is that is correct?

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Speaker 2: Who is he?

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Speaker 9: I think authority hadn't noted anything regarding his identity, so

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Speaker 9: it's unknown as as far as I know. That is tone.

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Speaker 1: Time stories with Nancy grace.

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Speaker 2: To Jerry and Cindy, what's it? Who is you her phone?

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Speaker 5: We have no idea, you know, I'm going to circle

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Speaker 5: back around though, Nancy, to the cameras there. You're talking

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Speaker 5: about Brian being picked up an unrelated case of course,

514
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Speaker 5: that picked up by cameras found by other businesses. We

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Speaker 5: did request. My husband found that Denver area has three

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Speaker 5: hundred plus I think they're called Halo cameras over the

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Speaker 5: downtown area, and we begged, we pleaded for those anything

518
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Speaker 5: any video footage because if she was on that bus,

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Speaker 5: she got off that bus at Union Station. We went

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Speaker 5: to that security system or department they have like a

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Speaker 5: city within the city at Union Station bus depot there

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Speaker 5: and we went to them. They do not have any video.

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Speaker 5: Theres is real time, so they don't have any recordings

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Speaker 5: that we go back that far at the station, but

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Speaker 5: the city as a whole does have these. I understand

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Speaker 5: not all of them are recorded. I understand that some

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Speaker 5: of them are not zoomed in that they are for

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Speaker 5: an aerial view, but there are a number and for

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Speaker 5: I don't know what they're used for. I mean, my

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Speaker 5: husband pleaded for them to even let him. We will

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Speaker 5: go through the videotapes to anybody. Our next step, I guess,

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Speaker 5: is to go through local businesses there. I mean, we're

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Speaker 5: not going to stop. It's an endurance thing. We love

534
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Speaker 5: our daughter and you know, how do you sleep? How

535
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Speaker 5: do you stop? But it is a shame as a city,

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Speaker 5: as a whole. I don't know what the what the

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Speaker 5: taxpayer dollars are put for there into cameras if they're

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Speaker 5: not able to be used. And I understand she's you

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Speaker 5: know not uh Donald Trump. I understand she's not an

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Speaker 5: important person, but it's it's it's a shame.

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Speaker 2: Well, she's important to you and she's important to us.

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Speaker 2: Did you offer to sit there in their offices and

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Speaker 2: review the video?

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Speaker 6: They told us that they don't even have the manpower

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Speaker 6: to pull the video footage.

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Speaker 1: What is wrong with these people?

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Speaker 2: Spencer McKee, the car are doing nothing even in Denver.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we know, correct me if I'm wrong to

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Speaker 2: mister and missus Winston, she took a bus to Denver.

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Speaker 2: Her phone pings in Denver. Some unknown guy is calling

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Speaker 2: people from your daughter's phone. And if you don't know

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Speaker 2: who he is, go to the people he's calling and

553
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Speaker 2: say who's this guy? That called you on this day.

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Speaker 2: They have to remember who call them. He's calling multiple people.

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Speaker 2: Can't they find out Spencer McKee? Why aren't Denver cops helping?

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Speaker 9: I mean, Denver is a city that's seen a lot

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Speaker 9: of population grips and in recent years, and it was

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Speaker 9: definitely a bit in recent years. I think probably like

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Speaker 9: we like we've been talking about, just understaffing a bit

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Speaker 9: could be an issue. Yeah, I mean your guest is

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Speaker 9: as good as mine.

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Speaker 2: There, okay, you know Arley Walter is joining US private

563
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Speaker 2: investigator with ex Caliber PI in Colorado Springs. What is wrong?

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Speaker 2: Why is a Denver police helping?

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Speaker 10: Yeah? I mean you're just as good as mine. I

566
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Speaker 10: mean there's a lot of things they could be doing,

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Speaker 10: especially that with that phone. I mean, I don't understand,

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Speaker 10: like you mentioned, why they haven't reached out to the

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Speaker 10: people that were on the receiving end of the calls

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Speaker 10: from the unknown mail When when I read that it

571
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Speaker 10: was an unknown mail, Like, how have they not identified

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Speaker 10: that that guy already? Had they subpoenaed the telephone company

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Speaker 10: to see where that phone? What south towers it pinged

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Speaker 10: off of in Denver?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Jump in, Yes, this is Cindy.

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Speaker 5: We actually did that ourselves. Also, we called the number.

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Speaker 5: We have Melissa's cell phone on our plan. We called

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Speaker 5: the last known number and it was for a transport

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Speaker 5: or a transit driver, not a known company. But this

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Speaker 5: gentleman drives and I guess has his number posted around downtown.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure how they get his number, but the

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Speaker 5: unknown male called him, he said, looking for a ride.

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Speaker 5: We gave his number and his name to the Winter

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Speaker 5: Park Police Department, Denver Police Department. And when I said earlier,

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Speaker 5: we couldn't get an interview. When we drove cross country there,

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Speaker 5: we went to meet with the missing person's detective. He

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Speaker 5: didn't have time to meet with us. We never got

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Speaker 5: in the Denver Police Department front doors.

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Speaker 2: That whole office needs to be cleaned out, fumigated. You know.

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Speaker 2: It reminds me of what Nleie Holloway's mother told me

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Speaker 2: in Aruba. She went and waited and waited and waited.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking five, seven, twelve hours for the Aruba police

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Speaker 2: chief to come out and speak to her. All the

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Speaker 2: time he's sitting back in his office, eating takeout and

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Speaker 2: having his haircut all that time, and her daughter had

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Speaker 2: been killed. That's in Aruba, you know, a whole different

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Speaker 2: justice system. This is Denver, Colorado. The phone number seven

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Speaker 2: two zero nine one three one thousand, repeat seven to

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Speaker 2: two zero nine, one three one thousand is the number

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Speaker 2: for Denver PD. So they won't help you get the video,

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Speaker 2: they won't meet with you after you drive cross country.

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Speaker 2: They're not interviewing witnesses. What good are they? And I

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Speaker 2: don't want to hear anymore. Your guess is as good

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Speaker 2: as mine. I want answers. I'm not sure, Wendy Patrick,

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Speaker 2: what to do at this juncture, other than go over

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Speaker 2: their heads to the FEDS or the state ag if

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Speaker 2: the cops won't do their job.

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Speaker 11: Nancy, with your profile, you are doing exactly what's necessary,

609
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Speaker 11: is bringing a spotlight on this case because it needs

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Speaker 11: to be investigated, and it needs to be sold, and

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Speaker 11: the parents need to know what happened to their daughter.

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Speaker 11: You know, the news report not only talk about the

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Speaker 11: phone and the unknown man, but that the unknown man

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Speaker 11: use the phone to speak to people in Denver on

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Speaker 11: the day she vanished. So there's more to work with

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Speaker 11: than some of the news reports have really talked about.

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Speaker 11: And I think you're really bringing the attention that's necessary

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Speaker 11: to this case so that we are able to get

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Speaker 11: the manpower dedicated to find out what happened and get

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Speaker 11: some man.

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Speaker 2: The Denver Police chief is Ron Thomas t h O

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Speaker 2: m AS and if you don't want to call, you

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Speaker 2: can write the chief at R. Thomas at Denver gov

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Speaker 2: dot org. R is in Red Thomas T H O

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Speaker 2: m A s at Denver Gov, g O v dot

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Speaker 2: org or seven two zero nine, one three, one thousand.

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Speaker 2: I'm concerned, Wendy Patrick, that they're not going to do

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Speaker 2: their jobs. I'm concerned that the witsets are not going

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Speaker 2: to get answers to Jerry and Cindy. We've gotten conflicting

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Speaker 2: reports that the roommate was the last one to see

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Speaker 2: her or interact with her. Yet we also know her

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Speaker 2: phone showed up in Denver. Do we know she made

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Speaker 2: it to Denver?

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Speaker 5: We have been out hold that she did.

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Speaker 2: Who told you.

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Speaker 5: That Winter Park Police Department?

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Speaker 2: How do they know that when they don't know anything else?

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Speaker 5: How do they know that they told us that she

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Speaker 5: boarded the bus in winter Park and that she did

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Speaker 5: get off the bus in Denver.

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Speaker 2: So my question is, how do they know that?

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Speaker 5: I believe that the bus has video camera footage there

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Speaker 5: of her boarding and onboarding.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to mention that to you and I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you why. In a case that we investigated the case

646
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Speaker 2: of a missing mom of five out of Connecticut, Jennifer Dulo's,

647
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Speaker 2: there was the critical bus video inside the bus that

648
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Speaker 2: happened to catch who I believe was the perp Go

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Speaker 2: buy in his car. And that tells me that the

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Speaker 2: bus does have video inside of it. So Winter Partners

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Speaker 2: that we know, we're not looking for her in winter Park,

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Speaker 2: We're looking for your daughter in Denver, where they do

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Speaker 2: have a lot of police resources. It seems to me

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Speaker 2: at this juncture, Wendy Patrick, the witsits need to reach

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Speaker 2: out to the Colorado Attorney General. When the cops don't

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Speaker 2: do their job, you have to jump over their head.

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Speaker 2: And no, they don't like that, but there's really no choice.

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Speaker 2: The Colorado Attorney General is Phil Weisser. WI se R

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Speaker 2: repeat w E I S E R Phil Weisser. The

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Speaker 2: number is seven two zero five zero eight six thousand

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Speaker 2: repeat seven two zero five zero eight six thousand. You know,

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Speaker 2: when you go to Wisser's website, they ask you what

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Speaker 2: is the reason of your contact, and you make your

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Speaker 2: request and then it says about what, and you simply

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Speaker 2: add in investigation and to email the Colorado Attorney General.

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Speaker 2: The email is Attorney dot General at State dot Co

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Speaker 2: dot US. Repeat, Attorney dot General at State dot Co

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Speaker 2: dot US. To mister and missus Whitston, what is the

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Speaker 2: next step for you and trying to find Melissa.

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Speaker 5: Well, we came home to regroup, and I run a

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Speaker 5: business here, my husband's trying to hold his job. We

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Speaker 5: have other children, so we came home to regroup. But

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Speaker 5: you know, I don't know. We're just taking it day

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Speaker 5: by day, hour by hour right now, and we're not

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Speaker 5: opposed to going back.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think the next step, thrust is, like she said,

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Speaker 6: to regroup. My thought was to comb the streets in

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Speaker 6: a different kind of way this time that maybe look

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Speaker 6: for businesses that would voluntarily provide video footage if they

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Speaker 6: had it, and try to create a trail that way.

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Speaker 6: That's really all we know to do at this point.

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Speaker 2: I urge you, mister miss Whitstont to please contact the

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Speaker 2: Attorney General. I mean, do you agree or disagree with

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Speaker 2: Wendy Patrick.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely. I think the more resources the better, and they

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Speaker 11: are going to be delighted at all of the excellent investigations,

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Speaker 11: though it wasn't their job that the mother and father

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Speaker 11: took upon themselves to do so, God bless you for

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Speaker 11: doing all of that for your daughter. You're going to

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Speaker 11: make law enforcements job.

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Speaker 2: A lot of you there, and all the hard work

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Speaker 2: the Witsets have put into finding their daughter may just

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Speaker 2: tangentially help find Selana. We wait as justice and faults. Goodbye,

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Speaker 2: sir and