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Speaker 1: Wednesday morning, January twenty second, twenty twenty four, beating the
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Speaker 1: Gil Alexander, thanks for joining us on Twitter. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: retweet this, yach get people to watch us. Let's see here.
Speaker 2: Where do I go?
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Speaker 3: There we is and we'll retweet it.
Speaker 4: Bang.
Speaker 1: All right, appreciate everybody tuning in, by the way, Uh
Speaker 1: not only our regulars. Todd Wishnev who is not in
Speaker 1: his mom's cork attic. Why are you downstairs?
Speaker 2: Todd? That hurts you? My hip is killing me and
Speaker 2: I can't sit in the regular chairs, so I'm sitting
Speaker 2: in a recliner because my hip is in very very
Speaker 2: bad shape. Look like a picture of health. It can't
Speaker 2: be any healthier. Look and by healthier I mean and
Speaker 2: then I'm day to day in death. Okay, stop it.
Speaker 2: That's a problem. It's better than questionable. It's better than
Speaker 2: questionable doubtful. Day to day is better.
Speaker 1: Will Hill not from his mom's quirk addict, but in
Speaker 1: front of a big vsent thing in Connecticut at not
Speaker 1: the Will Hill. By the way, Todd is at t
Speaker 1: wishnev on Twitter. Will is the host of the should
Speaker 1: Have Bet More podcast and also part of the bear
Speaker 1: Bets Empire at Fox and Fox Sports. How you doing, man?
Speaker 4: Uh, I'm cold. I'm very cold. It's so cold outside
Speaker 4: that it's cold inside. That's how cold it is outside.
Speaker 5: But I'm good.
Speaker 1: Other way, what's the temperature?
Speaker 2: It was?
Speaker 4: Oh, who knows? Woke up and it was like six
Speaker 4: or something. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Last night it was minus five here it was minus five.
Speaker 2: Last night.
Speaker 1: It was twenty five and Vegas.
Speaker 2: How about that? Fun? Uh, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: The the fourth person you see here is a familiar
Speaker 1: face to all the iconic silhouettes. That is the Bear,
Speaker 1: Chris Blika from Fox Sports Bear Bets podcast. Pro football
Speaker 1: in college football, when do you do those tomorrow?
Speaker 3: Yes, Thursday?
Speaker 5: Obviously no more college but yeah, the NFL will, yeah,
Speaker 5: will be Thursday.
Speaker 3: Start on that.
Speaker 5: Rarely, rarely on TV.
Speaker 2: You've seen that guy on Saturday mornings down there talking
Speaker 2: to the idiots, you know, iron or that. I don't
Speaker 2: like them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can call them idiots because they are they're
Speaker 5: they're they're in the take the points posse and I'm hoping.
Speaker 5: I was so fired up watching the the the the
Speaker 5: commedi's on Saturday night, like going forward on fourth down
Speaker 5: and it was it was just beautiful. Hopefully the the take
Speaker 5: to take the points posse has now been converted into
Speaker 5: understanding win probability and expected points at it and how
Speaker 5: like if you if you go forward three times and
Speaker 5: you miss it once or or you miss it twice
Speaker 5: and you still score one touchdown, seven points is more
Speaker 5: than six and that actually kind of works out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was told by my wife one one degree this
Speaker 5: morning here will and Farmington when she was driving to work.
Speaker 3: So yeah, cold cold as you know what.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Bears, looks like you lost a little weight, and
Speaker 4: I think a couple more pounds. He's got like the
Speaker 4: Danny Hurley thing almost going where he's got the glasses
Speaker 4: the balls. Han, I'm waiting for him to start like
Speaker 4: screaming at the rest for you know, for something.
Speaker 3: So I'll scream at you and Todd if you want.
Speaker 2: So, do you I television? Don't go against me. I'm
Speaker 2: on television. I'll turn your back on me. Hell do
Speaker 2: you think you are? I'm on Fox.
Speaker 3: Sorry, by the way.
Speaker 5: I don't want to, like usually I'm not a like
Speaker 5: toot your worn guy, because like whenever you do that,
Speaker 5: it's it's imminent, like you're going to go on a
Speaker 5: losing streak on the on the pod. This year the
Speaker 5: College Pod, at least our best bets, I went sixteen
Speaker 5: and five and Jeff went fifteen and six, thirty one
Speaker 5: and eleven. Yeah, it was yeah, crazy, like I didn't
Speaker 5: even know. I didn't even know about it until like, uh,
Speaker 5: like the quarterfinals of the playoff. Like our producer was like,
Speaker 5: by the way, Bear, you fit like eight straight best
Speaker 5: bets and Jeff, you've hit like six straight best bets
Speaker 5: in college and your records on the year, I'm like, uh,
Speaker 5: wish you would have known about that earlier.
Speaker 1: So yeah, on record, how did how did Will? And
Speaker 1: how did Will? And Sammy P Dude? Will bet on
Speaker 1: the Titans in college football?
Speaker 5: So yes, every week, yes, you know he been on
Speaker 5: the Remember the Titans from the movie.
Speaker 3: That was a team he bets every week he got.
Speaker 1: He torpedoed himself by betting the Tennessee Titans in the
Speaker 1: NFL time and time again. Early in the season, took
Speaker 1: himself out of any competition, Todd.
Speaker 5: To answer your question, the college picks this year fifty
Speaker 5: eight thirty seven and two.
Speaker 3: That's what that's what I wound up.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I and let it be known. Let it
Speaker 1: be known that you are now on the final leg
Speaker 1: of a cross sport las here can you explain to
Speaker 1: people with one?
Speaker 5: Well, well, I think it's it's only fitting that we
Speaker 5: talk about it because I think we initially discussed this
Speaker 5: during the summer with you on a numbers game when
Speaker 5: I was in Los Angeles, because this is when these
Speaker 5: bets were made. When I was in LA and I
Speaker 5: flew to Phoenix basically for five hours to I had
Speaker 5: a like a deposit bonus that I needed to exercise
Speaker 5: on both draftings and FanDuel, and these just happened to
Speaker 5: be a FanDuel because these were the better prices that
Speaker 5: I was able to get. But yeah, I was in
Speaker 5: LA working the soccer for the summer, and it was
Speaker 5: right before the Open Championship. So I basically wound up
Speaker 5: putting together I put together put to decent investment. I mean,
Speaker 5: I mean about.
Speaker 3: Five thousand dollars.
Speaker 5: I guess I said. I wound up investing on a
Speaker 5: bunch of crossboard parlays with uh. It wound up being
Speaker 5: like I think five or six guys to win the
Speaker 5: Open Championship, and Xander wound up winning the Open at
Speaker 5: eleven to one.
Speaker 3: With his price.
Speaker 5: There college football, I pretty much assumed it was either
Speaker 5: going to be Georgia or Ohio State to win the
Speaker 5: national championship. We talked about the Georgian Ohio State bet
Speaker 5: versus the field, which I also have at South Point.
Speaker 3: I need to go visit your mish BOOKA at some
Speaker 3: point and collect on that.
Speaker 5: Aaron Judge, sorry forget forgive me.
Speaker 3: I don't I can't do it as good as you.
Speaker 5: Aaron Judge was a single leg to win the al
Speaker 5: MVP at the time. He was still only three hundred
Speaker 5: I think somehere around there, but it was pretty apparently. No, no, no,
Speaker 5: it was not at the South Point. I couldn't get
Speaker 5: to Vegas to bet that in person, Nor did the
Speaker 5: South Point app work and work in Arizona.
Speaker 3: No, no, we're good.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: Then I had the Liberty in the Aces to win
Speaker 5: the w n b A title, And if you remember
Speaker 5: a game five of the Liberty that was I don't
Speaker 5: remember that game Todd like ridiculous fouls at the end
Speaker 5: I got. I was, I was life and death watching
Speaker 5: the end of that game. And my girl, John Quaul Jones,
Speaker 5: he's He's my version of Willie's dj A Harrington.
Speaker 3: So Carrington, she got me home there and I had.
Speaker 2: No he doesn't like he doesn't like dj n A Carrington.
Speaker 2: You like John Quel Jones.
Speaker 5: In your body. You thank God for John Paul Jones
Speaker 5: because the and Esku was terrible that game. I think
Speaker 5: she was like two of ninety and I think we
Speaker 5: think it was revealed that she was playing with some
Speaker 5: type of major injury basically meant you couldn't shoot.
Speaker 3: But and then I had a.
Speaker 2: Ajia Wilson would have been the team the person you
Speaker 2: would have hated, Ajia Wilson or Jackie.
Speaker 5: Young Well, I was, I was, no, I would I
Speaker 5: would have been fine with that. I would have been
Speaker 5: fine with the Liberty Aces w NBA Championship Series because
Speaker 5: that would have meant that was good either way. But
Speaker 5: they were good to me the last couple of years
Speaker 5: they were. They were good to be the last couple
Speaker 5: of years in the title. And then I had a
Speaker 5: Super Bowl winner Eagles Bills Ravens, Chiefs, Niners, and here
Speaker 5: we are. I got three of the four remaining teams,
Speaker 5: so uh, if the Eagles went on Saturday, I am
Speaker 5: guaranteed to have both Super Bowl compadres and to take
Speaker 5: home a nice a nice score.
Speaker 1: Which team makes obviously, the Commanders are the one that
Speaker 1: makes you nothing, which is the one that makes you most.
Speaker 2: Of the three remaining the Eagles.
Speaker 5: The Eagles make me the most, a little bit more
Speaker 5: than the Bills. And then the Chiefs obviously were the
Speaker 5: favorite of co favorite at the time, so that'll uh,
Speaker 5: it's it's still a it's still a very nice high
Speaker 5: figure score, that's for sure. And then Gil, if you're
Speaker 5: happy on if you're happy on Sunday afternoon, then I
Speaker 5: then I had to have to play play your team
Speaker 5: in the Super Bowl in Orleans. By the way, if
Speaker 5: they win Sunday, you coming to New Orleans?
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, good, Yes there.
Speaker 1: I told my bosses in advance that that's the only
Speaker 1: scenario where I'm not going to be in Vegas, but
Speaker 1: I'm willing to do a show, but I will be
Speaker 1: in New Orleans because.
Speaker 2: I vowed when I walked out of.
Speaker 1: Min Minneapolis in nineteen ninety two that I would never
Speaker 1: miss another Skin Super Bowl. And as the joke goes,
Speaker 1: and I've kept my promise ever since. That's right, I'm perfect.
Speaker 1: So this is this would be the one sixty minutes away,
Speaker 1: which is incredible.
Speaker 2: I mean, I have a Dumbo of the Week.
Speaker 1: Last week before we get to our bets if we
Speaker 1: have any championship week and we're not behold into two.
Speaker 1: But if we have a bet, we'll hear it from everybody.
Speaker 1: Dumbo of the Week. There's only two candidates, and I
Speaker 1: have to actually have to rope in Marcus Freeman as
Speaker 1: candidate number two. Marcus Freeman for kicking for attempting a
Speaker 1: field goal, for attempting a field goal with nine to
Speaker 1: thirty three left down sixteen to Ohio State. He is
Speaker 1: candidate number one, candidate number two, and the only real
Speaker 1: Dumble of the week from a coaching perspective in the
Speaker 1: NFL during the divisional round was Tony Siriani. And I
Speaker 1: want to get the details of this right.
Speaker 2: This is at the end of the first half.
Speaker 1: Remember what did I say, Tony sirian What am I tom?
Speaker 5: I'm sure, I'm sure there is a Tony Sirianni in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3: That would not.
Speaker 1: Be Tony Syria. As I said it, I was like,
Speaker 1: is that his name? Nick Sirianni. The score is thirteen
Speaker 1: to ten Philadelphia. Late second half, Philly started with the
Speaker 1: ball with five eighteen left. They got out of the
Speaker 1: third and fourteen jail at their own five with the
Speaker 1: past the saque for sixteen and they matriculate the ball
Speaker 1: down off the field. By the way, the first half
Speaker 1: spread was in question here it was minus four for Philly.
Speaker 1: They're up three. Here, they get to second and one
Speaker 1: at the rams thirty seven, Hurts goes deep to Brown.
Speaker 1: He bobbles it in the corner. You remember he only
Speaker 1: carous it.
Speaker 2: Totally had it should have absolutely had that. It was
Speaker 2: an absolute joke.
Speaker 1: Drop You had a bet a base on that, right, Todd.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, well I had.
Speaker 2: I had over forty nine and a half in the game,
Speaker 2: and I ski I squeaked it out in a miracle.
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't have had to have a miracle had
Speaker 2: he caught the ball.
Speaker 1: So they're just on the edge of field goal range
Speaker 1: that's incomplete. And after they do so, they do get
Speaker 1: the first down. So now they're in field goal range
Speaker 1: second and eight at the rams thirty two, with thirty
Speaker 1: seconds left, Hertz is sacked by Omar Spates. He fumbles,
Speaker 1: but gain Well falls on it, but way back at
Speaker 1: the rams forty seven, so they lose fifteen yards. But
Speaker 1: there's twenty second. There's twenty one seconds left, and Philly
Speaker 1: has a time out, and Sirianni just stares at to
Speaker 1: the point where Mike Turico goes. Sirianni just says, hold
Speaker 1: right here, don't know if he's gonna take a time
Speaker 1: out for one last shot at the end zone or
Speaker 1: let it run down. Doesn't call it till three seconds left.
Speaker 1: And then, by the way, Verse sacked hurts to end
Speaker 1: the half, and Philly goes into the locker room only
Speaker 1: up three. Obviously, they eventually win it by six. But
Speaker 1: between Marcus Freeman and that, who's the bigger dumbo? And
Speaker 1: by the way, let me just add also to Philly,
Speaker 1: because to me, I would vote work. I would vote
Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman in that. But I will add to the
Speaker 1: Philly part. Also, when they were up to scores late
Speaker 1: and they had been crushing Stafford on the blitz all game,
Speaker 1: they all of a sudden just called off the Dogs
Speaker 1: and the Rams matriculated easily down the field.
Speaker 4: Wait, he acted like there was thirty seconds, Leff, not
Speaker 4: like three or four minutes.
Speaker 1: It was right, very strange, and then ended up with
Speaker 1: the ball right after a three and out ended up
Speaker 1: with the ball with a chance to win the Rams
Speaker 1: did so. Freeman versus Siri one who gets.
Speaker 2: On another one? I would like to nominate, as I
Speaker 2: do know a little bit about parking. I do talk
Speaker 2: about parking quick. I actually had some free tickets to
Speaker 2: go to the Eagles game, and my friend is a
Speaker 2: really big Eagles fan who lives here. He's from Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: So I said, okay, I'll go with you if you
Speaker 2: want to drive up. So we go to the game.
Speaker 2: Now it's it's supposed to snow, right, So they said, okay,
Speaker 2: let's park like somewhere on the north of the Septa
Speaker 2: Line in downtown and then we'll we'll take the train
Speaker 2: to the stadium because otherwise you're going to get stuck
Speaker 2: in all the snow and everything like that. So we
Speaker 2: do that and then now, I don't know if you
Speaker 2: guys watched this game, but there was snow like first
Speaker 2: of all, I can't believe they were catching the ball
Speaker 2: in that snow, because when we were amazing at this,
Speaker 2: the snow was so thick. I was like, how could
Speaker 2: you even see in this? It was unbelievable. So we're
Speaker 2: walking back to the to the train station, but it
Speaker 2: turns out everybody else in Philadelphia also heard that there
Speaker 2: was snow coming, so they decided to do the train too.
Speaker 2: So now you can't get into the goddamn station outside
Speaker 2: the Citizens Bank and the link and we're literally like
Speaker 2: sardines packed in. They're moving like one step forward every
Speaker 2: three minutes. At the same time, I'm going, does anybody
Speaker 2: have the Ravens game on their on their phone? Because
Speaker 2: my phone won't work because everybody's phone is trying to
Speaker 2: So I'm giving play by play in the snow with
Speaker 2: everybody like stacked together. I'm like, it's third and seven,
Speaker 2: eight twenty seven ago, first quarter row all love tea,
Speaker 2: and people are laughing their heads off because I'm doing
Speaker 2: amazing play by play, but meanwhile, amazing we're going. We're
Speaker 2: going literally one step forward every two minutes. It took
Speaker 2: us an hour and a half to finally get on
Speaker 2: the train, and then it was another forty five minutes
Speaker 2: on the train. But it was like, here's a thing.
Speaker 2: Don't take the train if it's snowing in Philadelphia. Otherwise
Speaker 2: forget about it or go do something else. That's why
Speaker 2: I said, why don't we just go over to the
Speaker 2: casino and watch the game there. They're go, oh, we're
Speaker 2: not going to get into the game anyways. Whatever, It's
Speaker 2: just a it should be noted.
Speaker 1: It should be noted that Todd has a history of
Speaker 1: Loyind Park very far away from arenas and stadiums. Once
Speaker 1: we went to Summer League here in Vegas and we
Speaker 1: parked damn near the airport, and I'm like.
Speaker 2: Todd, what do we do? We can like drive you know,
Speaker 2: that's my trick that's my trick spot. That's my free
Speaker 2: parking spot at Thomas and Mack. If there's like a
Speaker 2: side street there across the street from the parking so
Speaker 2: you can it is it's a trick spot, and that
Speaker 2: you don't have to pay the twenty dollars for the parking.
Speaker 2: But that was when I could you know, that's not
Speaker 2: a walking issue, that's you know, it's right, you're right
Speaker 2: across the street from the parking lot.
Speaker 5: I was like, was it eighty bucks to park at
Speaker 5: the sept I no, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know what it was. It was actually I think
Speaker 2: it was like two dollars for the train, but the
Speaker 2: like had we parked, I don't even know how much
Speaker 2: it was to park in that, but there were there
Speaker 2: were yahoos out in that snow tailgating like you can't
Speaker 2: believe like it was. It was unbelievable. The whole scene
Speaker 2: was just it was incredible.
Speaker 1: It's also why when who are the announcers for that game?
Speaker 1: I can't remember?
Speaker 5: That was the part that was and Brady?
Speaker 2: That was a Fox game for cart and Brady.
Speaker 1: No, I thought Brady were the Skins?
Speaker 2: Wait for which game for the Eagles?
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm sorry, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Tirico and Collinsworth were giving uh the Rams
Speaker 1: punt returner Xavier Smith was is that the returner for
Speaker 1: the Rams where he just let the ball bounce right
Speaker 1: on the final drive and it got all the way
Speaker 1: back to the twelve and they were kind of murdering
Speaker 1: him for doing that. I'm like, He's like, yeah, just
Speaker 1: like let him that was the smart play. Just let
Speaker 1: it bounce, don't make a mistake. I get it. You
Speaker 1: don't know that it's going to bounce to the twelve.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought they were a little rough on
Speaker 1: him with the snow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you're you're taking the risk of a fumble
Speaker 5: out out of play, like at least you know you're
Speaker 5: getting the ball and you're going to give your offense
Speaker 5: a chance to And they did. They worked their way,
Speaker 5: they matriculated their way down the fields as you would say, yeah,
Speaker 5: on guessing lines, and they had a shot.
Speaker 1: Yep, Xavier Smith. That's who it was anyway, So Freeman
Speaker 1: versus Sirianni, who rechoose Freeman?
Speaker 5: I go Freeman, Freeman. I mean, you need thirteen points
Speaker 5: with what eight fifty four? I think it was to
Speaker 5: go like you're basically saying, we still need two touchdowns
Speaker 5: and we got to stop them twice, like they weren't
Speaker 5: stopping them all game. I think they punked it once
Speaker 5: up to that point. So like the math wasn't with
Speaker 5: them to kick the field.
Speaker 2: Nine to thirty three left.
Speaker 1: Whenever you get a chance to get a two score
Speaker 1: game to a to a two score game, you gotta
Speaker 1: take that opportunity.
Speaker 2: I want to add one other one, Peter, I want
Speaker 2: to add one more. The Lions offensive coordinator for panicking
Speaker 2: very early in that football game, and and you're gonna
Speaker 2: all say, oh, well, well, first of all, he throws
Speaker 2: the stupid halfback. Jamison Williams say, okay, that's fine. That
Speaker 2: was a complete panic. But the second I felt that
Speaker 2: the panic was setting in in the second quarter when
Speaker 2: it was like Goff, I think they were down fourteen
Speaker 2: to ten still and Goff was throwing bombs on two
Speaker 2: and fourth and two, and I'm thinking, these guys are
Speaker 2: scared that the Redskins are moving the ball on them
Speaker 2: and they're starting to panic. And then the last throw
Speaker 2: when he throws the touch the interception in the end
Speaker 2: zone late in the first half also felt to me
Speaker 2: like a panic throw by Golf and that obviously cost
Speaker 2: them a touchdown there, but it felt like the whole
Speaker 2: time they were nervous, Oh we're behind this team and
Speaker 2: we can't stop them. Let's do something. And then of
Speaker 2: course the half back pass is just it's just unconscionable there.
Speaker 2: It's not like you need to trick them. Every play
Speaker 2: you're running is gashing them. The lines were getting like
Speaker 2: nine yards of play. It was a scene, you know,
Speaker 2: and then you're gonna run a goof go ahead.
Speaker 1: You're blaming Ben Johnson for the golf passes, though I
Speaker 1: agree with you on the Jamison Williams thing, because you
Speaker 1: can't put it in the hands of someone who, by
Speaker 1: the way, just in life doesn't have great judgment right on.
Speaker 2: The football field or not.
Speaker 1: But like you could tell when you were watching that live,
Speaker 1: nobody was opened by his hesitation. And and I'm like,
Speaker 1: as a Skins fan, I'm like, at least throw it
Speaker 1: at please throw it because I know whatever's on the
Speaker 1: other end is not going to be open. And it
Speaker 1: goes to Samer still and it's a pick, no, no
Speaker 1: kill me.
Speaker 2: Why I agree with you. It's not like you needed
Speaker 2: to trick them. It's not like a Ravens against Patriots,
Speaker 2: as you know, playoff game where they had to play
Speaker 2: the Amandola trick because they weren't moving the ball. They
Speaker 2: were moving the ball like there was no tomorrow if
Speaker 2: they don't turn the ball over a million points, That's
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So there's for that one more and it look, it's
Speaker 4: been talked about forever. I don't know what the solution is.
Speaker 4: It's very hard to convince me that both court it
Speaker 4: looks like Aaron Glenn's going to take the Jets job.
Speaker 4: It's very hard to convince me both coordinators are going
Speaker 4: to get hired four days after a game, but they're
Speaker 4: one hundred percent completely focused. You can't be like applying
Speaker 4: for your dream job.
Speaker 2: Interviews.
Speaker 4: Those interviews are long, they're extensive, they're exhausting.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: But and then you have to coach a game, Uh,
Speaker 4: you know, a couple of days later. It's hard to
Speaker 4: believe both those coordinators are completely locked in. They're going
Speaker 4: to all say the right things after we were completely focused.
Speaker 4: Didn't distract us.
Speaker 2: That's hard to buy. It's just hard to buy.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 5: You're basically trying to put a staff together at to
Speaker 5: say like, Okay, I'm gonna hire this guy as Mike coordinator.
Speaker 5: This guy is whatever staff you need to assemble. And yeah,
Speaker 5: you can say all the agent was handle a lot
Speaker 5: of the contract negotiations in the interview process.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I agree.
Speaker 5: And that's something that we also run into a lot
Speaker 5: in college football during both seasons, where we get coaches
Speaker 5: that leave and just basically take another job in ball season.
Speaker 5: I know that has been a very profitable angle as
Speaker 5: well in college football with the interim head coach, and
Speaker 5: then you get the massive player departure as well.
Speaker 1: The I told this, by the way, Ben Johnson, for
Speaker 1: all of his for all of his late calling or
Speaker 1: error if you believe in that, to calling the Jamison
Speaker 1: Williams play, is the head coach, the new head coach
Speaker 1: of the Chicago Bears. And I told this story on
Speaker 1: the radio side this week, which, if true, immediately tells
Speaker 1: me he's a bad hire. All always thought that Ben Johnson,
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson was Washington was very interested in him being
Speaker 1: their coach last year, and I had always heard the
Speaker 1: story that the reason Ben Johnson ultimately stayed with the Lions,
Speaker 1: the whole oh we got more work to do here
Speaker 1: in Detroit kind of thing, but was that he thought
Speaker 1: the Washington brass was too basketball, Josh Harris being the
Speaker 1: owner Sixers, Bob Myers from the Golden State Warriors, and
Speaker 1: of course Magic Johnson himself being a part of the Skins. Well,
Speaker 1: so that was the story that we heard. And it's like, okay, whatever,
Speaker 1: if you think that, whatever, glad you were at the coach,
Speaker 1: But then there's there's a Washington insider. And I wish
Speaker 1: I apologize for not remembering his name, but he told
Speaker 1: this story last week. He goes, that's actually not the story.
Speaker 1: He said that Adam Peters, who by the way, for me,
Speaker 1: is the best GM in football beyond Jayden did he
Speaker 1: and the Redskins brass took the plane to Detroit to
Speaker 1: go interview Ben Johnson. And on the plane he's talking
Speaker 1: to Ben Johnson via telephone and he's and they're saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna draft Jayden Dan Daniels. Let's get ahead
Speaker 1: of this interview, and let's talk about, you know, some
Speaker 1: of the plans, what you would do, what you conceive
Speaker 1: of with Jayden Daniels. And he's like, I would I
Speaker 1: want to, I want to, you know, design an offense
Speaker 1: around Sam Howell. And they had to say, no, no,
Speaker 1: you don't understand. We're drafting Jayden Daniels. The Bears are
Speaker 1: gonna take Caleb first. We're gonna draft Jaden and Daniels second.
Speaker 1: You know, hey, so this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: And he's like, no, I want to do it around Sam.
Speaker 2: Howell to be here, that's out.
Speaker 1: That's not an option, to which the story then goes,
Speaker 1: Adam Peters said, turn this plane around so I don't
Speaker 1: know if that story is true. And that is the
Speaker 1: biggest red flag of all that, because to me, the
Speaker 1: number one quality in any coach, do you know this
Speaker 1: from the Joe Gibbs School of great coaching is the
Speaker 1: ability to adapt to your personnel, your ex'es and o's
Speaker 1: to your personnel, no matter what your strengths and weaknesses are.
Speaker 2: To adapt.
Speaker 1: That's a good coach. And if he's unable to do that,
Speaker 1: oh boy man, well, well.
Speaker 2: It tells you to sign an offense around Howe. You
Speaker 2: just call the play and he gets sad. But what
Speaker 2: it tells me.
Speaker 1: What it tells me is that, like, if that's true,
Speaker 1: he was reticent to want to design an offense around
Speaker 1: a multi dimensional quarterback. He'd rather have a traditional pocket asset.
Speaker 5: Isn't that what he has now in Caleb Williams in Chicago?
Speaker 1: Well, no, I think he has. He has more of
Speaker 1: a I think he views Caleb Williams as more of
Speaker 1: a traditional pocket passer. I still think, by the way,
Speaker 1: let me give a wish to have the biggest, biggest
Speaker 1: cred in the world.
Speaker 2: I have quoted Todd on this.
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, what's the word I'm looking for scouting report
Speaker 1: more than anything I've ever quoted Todd on, which is
Speaker 1: it's the best.
Speaker 2: One I've heard.
Speaker 1: You know, I always run the Meryl Hodg or my
Speaker 1: producers run the Meryl Hodge one on a numbers game,
Speaker 1: which is, he's nothing special. He's nothing special, which is
Speaker 1: what Meryl Hodge said on a Numbers game before the
Speaker 1: draft about Caleb. But Todd's to me was always the best,
Speaker 1: which is, Oh, let me.
Speaker 2: Get this straight. To correct me if I'm.
Speaker 1: Wrong in quote here, don whatever, Ever since you saw
Speaker 1: Caleb William was not performing that great with the Bears.
Speaker 1: I know there are some people who still believe in him.
Speaker 1: But Todd's reaction was, oh, let me get this straight.
Speaker 1: A guy who his best plays at USC were him
Speaker 1: frantically running around for his life like a whirling dervish
Speaker 1: until his five star receivers got open against usually their
Speaker 1: four star opponents, and then he made a play like,
Speaker 1: that's the guy who's not succeeding in the NFL. What
Speaker 1: a surprise, which I think it wasn't a sturdy court.
Speaker 2: It was all of his plays. If you just watch
Speaker 2: the USC games, every play was that. It wasn't like anything,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, these guys, I wonder whither these guys.
Speaker 2: It's just like with the Jayden Daniels. I watch college football.
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe fifteen hours a week on Saturday
Speaker 2: nights and then all the other nights too. But I'm
Speaker 2: saying from from noon till two am, I watch I
Speaker 2: try to watch a million college football games. So I
Speaker 2: probably if there's like, let's say there's you know, forty
Speaker 2: on TV, I'll catch, you know, glimpses of.
Speaker 3: Thir Diego City.
Speaker 2: Of course, well you have to watch Wyoming fans. You
Speaker 2: get Nevada, you got yeah, you got all those good
Speaker 2: late late night teams. But my point is if you're
Speaker 2: watching Daniels the year before and you're seeing what he's
Speaker 2: doing at LSU, it was so unbelievable. I mean, you
Speaker 2: could just bet the over in those games. You just
Speaker 2: watch a driver too, You're like, oh, well, forget it,
Speaker 2: they're going to score forty five. This is for sure.
Speaker 2: You know, it was so outstanding. And then all this
Speaker 2: talk about these other quarter I'm like Caleb compared to him,
Speaker 2: just watch the games. I don't understand. Did these guys
Speaker 2: not watch the games? It just every year.
Speaker 1: What happens between the last college football game in the
Speaker 1: NFL draft is always mind boggling how some of these
Speaker 1: teams talk themselves into Like Michael Crabtree I remember being
Speaker 1: a great example of that. Right, he's dropped all the
Speaker 1: way to like the tenth pick. I want to say
Speaker 1: where it's like, how did we go from he's the
Speaker 1: greatest wide receiver ever too, Now he's only the tenth
Speaker 1: pick once we got to the draft, Like there's it's
Speaker 1: littered with players through the years like that where they
Speaker 1: talk themselves out of it between then and they.
Speaker 2: Go to the combine and they say, oh, well he's
Speaker 2: four point two one is this and his wrist, his
Speaker 2: wrist him just this and.
Speaker 3: Two nine inches.
Speaker 2: We we we looked at his bowel movements and he's
Speaker 2: got good floaters. And so for sure that that clearly
Speaker 2: is that, you know, everyone knows most top top picks
Speaker 2: there floaters.
Speaker 1: You know who is the quarterback with the with the
Speaker 1: hand size? Who is that burrow?
Speaker 2: That was a concern. I remember there's somebody that I
Speaker 2: can't remember. Yeah, I can't remember.
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, they really.
Speaker 5: So the moral of the story is the books are
Speaker 5: going to retroactively cash my Jayden Daniels thirty nine to
Speaker 5: one to be the number one of overall pick.
Speaker 1: They got you and now you and my Stroud number
Speaker 1: one from last year. Both of us can go to
Speaker 1: the same cash.
Speaker 2: Those By the way, I think they're sleeping on that
Speaker 2: dark guy, are they? Did they not watch Lane Kiffon
Speaker 2: run it up? Seventy seven nothing seventy six nothing against
Speaker 2: the Furman? I mean, you know, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know why all these who are the two top quarters?
Speaker 2: I forget who the two top quarterbacks that they're all
Speaker 2: talking about. I'm sorry, Colorado, right, both of them to
Speaker 2: me are not that much better than Dart. If they're
Speaker 2: better than Dart and all, I should not agree with
Speaker 2: you more.
Speaker 1: That's what I asked Chris. That's what I asked him
Speaker 1: on a numbers give a couple of weeks agogo. Are
Speaker 1: we sure that either Ward or Sanders are any good
Speaker 1: at all? And you said, Chris, I would not take
Speaker 1: either of them at number one.
Speaker 5: I would if I'm if I'm Tennessee and I'm drafting
Speaker 5: at the top. If someone wants to overpay and mortgage
Speaker 5: for a number one pick to take one of them five.
Speaker 5: But if I'm Tennessee, I'm taking either Abdul Carter on
Speaker 5: the end, or I'm taking Travis Hunter, a guy who
Speaker 5: you can decide with him how much you want to
Speaker 5: use him wide receiver and cornerback on the back end.
Speaker 5: Around in the second round you take a Jackson dart
Speaker 5: or if you want to take a flyer on looks
Speaker 5: like quin yours is going on the draft. I don't
Speaker 5: know how good he's going to be or how far away.
Speaker 5: Yeah I'm not I'm not there, believe me. But you
Speaker 5: guys know it's a bad quarterback draft. And I think
Speaker 5: that's why people are elevating both cam and Shauldure into
Speaker 5: like this, how they're going to go one and two
Speaker 5: in the draft or whatever when.
Speaker 2: The way they made me good. I'm not saying they're
Speaker 2: not going to be good. I'm just saying, how do
Speaker 2: you watch all those games and tell me that Shaudur
Speaker 2: Sanders and cam Ward are like way better than dark.
Speaker 2: It's not It's not true, That's what I'm saying. I
Speaker 2: don't understand it.
Speaker 1: Who is number three, Chris? If you had to pick
Speaker 1: right now, who's three or third behind those two?
Speaker 5: If it is it probably is Dark, right, I mean
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think who else is even going to be?
Speaker 5: I mean, well, Howard's not gonna go like that high.
Speaker 5: That's not that's not it's not mill. No, I can't imagine. God,
Speaker 5: I can't imagine that. I'd take Dark before I would know.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be.
Speaker 5: I can't wait to see these quarterback draft position props
Speaker 5: come out on Jackson Dark. Like I I wouldn't be
Speaker 5: surprised if they like put like a like a thirty
Speaker 5: two and a half on there just to see if
Speaker 5: he sneaks in into the first round.
Speaker 3: Like that would be uh, that would be wild because
Speaker 3: he always good. They always get drafted.
Speaker 2: Dart will be better than Milroeu put me down will.
Speaker 1: Be better than absolutely These teams justifiably get quarterback crazy
Speaker 1: on draft day because they all want to hit on
Speaker 1: a Jaden d Anderson. So here Mel Kuiper with his
Speaker 1: first mock draft for twenty twenty five. This morning. He
Speaker 1: has the Titans taking cam Ward number one. He's got
Speaker 1: Cleveland going Travis Hunter number two. The Giants get Shadere
Speaker 1: at three, the Patriots go Abdual Carter at four. That's
Speaker 1: Mel Kuiper's and there's all these kinds of Dion conspiracies
Speaker 1: right where it's like he knows or the conspirac he
Speaker 1: goes that Cleveland, he's going to make sure Cleveland doesn't
Speaker 1: take sor he's going to make it known that Schador
Speaker 1: will not play in Cleveland, so therefore they will take
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter. And then he's gonna want Jerry Jones to
Speaker 1: get to three so that he can play for Dallas
Speaker 1: and then he'll be the coach. And there's all kinds
Speaker 1: of theories about that. Who knows is Kellen Moore going
Speaker 1: to be their coach? By the way, is that the
Speaker 1: front runner?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Someone will say getting interview man, some strange strange interviews.
Speaker 1: I think they're waiting for more, That's my guess. Okay,
Speaker 1: Todd was there ready in game before we get the picks?
Speaker 1: Any in game?
Speaker 2: M not really. I I didn't really have anything that spectacular.
Speaker 2: I mean I did. I did play the Lions over
Speaker 2: thirty and a half after they fumbled that ball down
Speaker 2: going in and I got the thirty and a half
Speaker 2: and thankfully they kicked the field goal down seventeen. So
Speaker 2: that was that was interesting.
Speaker 1: But anyways, remember we hear those texts back and forth
Speaker 1: where like, is Dan Campbell going to do the right thing?
Speaker 1: Kicked the field goal here? Yeah, yep he did. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But yeah, So on the just to talk about what
Speaker 2: you guys did last week, Will he had a real
Speaker 2: nice playoffs so far. He went one and one to
Speaker 2: go to three and one. He had the Texans under
Speaker 2: I lost the over thirty seven and a half on
Speaker 2: that on that missed field goal by Kayimi Fairbairn. And
Speaker 2: I told Sean, my friend who we were at the
Speaker 2: we were on the way to Philadelphia for the game,
Speaker 2: and I told him, I said, here's what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: They're going to be down eleven, they're going to drive
Speaker 2: down and they're going to kick a field goal and
Speaker 2: Kayimi Fairbairn is going to miss the field goal and
Speaker 2: because of that, it's going to land thirty five, well
Speaker 2: or thirty seven because of the safety, but I knew
Speaker 2: exactly was good. Anyways, Will had a nice pick there
Speaker 2: under forty one and a half Texans. He lost with
Speaker 2: the Ravens along with you, Gilly, and then so he
Speaker 2: goes to three and one for the playoffs. He wins
Speaker 2: his teaser he's the only one who's two in er
Speaker 2: and teasers. Chiefs Bills was a winning teaser, right, Willie, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's right. And then Gilly we everybody lost with the Lions.
Speaker 2: Uh teaser portion. Gilly went one and one with the
Speaker 2: tie on the Rams and the loser the Ravens. I
Speaker 2: lost with the Lions and the under and the Eagles,
Speaker 2: and Drew Dinsik had the Texans plus eight and a
Speaker 2: half so that did not get home and then the
Speaker 2: Eagle that was we have to go, we go with
Speaker 2: the Lion. What was Drew's other pick? Drew had Texans
Speaker 2: and Eagles Eagles minus six pushed okay.
Speaker 5: Off the right side of that game. Either that's a
Speaker 5: that's a ship loss right there? Man?
Speaker 3: That was that's wrong.
Speaker 2: But why he didn't practice kicking rocks before the other.
Speaker 4: He looked so bundled up. That's just one where you
Speaker 4: they cut him on the sideline. Man, I don't know
Speaker 4: that I trust this guy making a kick. He looked cold.
Speaker 4: What is this is he lined up from thirty five.
Speaker 4: I'm like, there's no way he's making this kid field.
Speaker 2: I turned, I said, this is for sure not going
Speaker 2: to make it. And by the way. He did not
Speaker 2: make it. He kicked it into the butt of the line.
Speaker 2: He didn't even kick the ball. It was like if
Speaker 2: me and you went out to the field and try
Speaker 2: to kick a field. It was so low.
Speaker 1: But then for those folks who had the Chiefs minus
Speaker 1: nine and a half. Of course, it didn't end up
Speaker 1: mattering because Mattariza was told from the I want to say,
Speaker 1: the eighteen yard line or the fourteen yard line. I
Speaker 1: should check on that, but one of those yard lines,
Speaker 1: I think it was the eighteen to run it back
Speaker 1: and take a safety. Did any of you think that
Speaker 1: that was going to happen? No?
Speaker 4: I did not, no, no, But I did say when
Speaker 4: when we're like, oh, what a bad beat is gonna
Speaker 4: be for the Chiefs, I almost I thought I didn't
Speaker 4: text out to go.
Speaker 2: They do have to punch.
Speaker 4: Still, so it's like they can run out the whole clock.
Speaker 4: Never never thinking it would matter. But man, that was
Speaker 4: one where I audibly gassed by audio.
Speaker 2: I just started lasting shocking. It was shocking, really, I
Speaker 2: was shocked. I mean, it was so the eighteen yard line.
Speaker 1: I just checked. It was the eighteen yard line, fourth
Speaker 1: and fifteen.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: You don't want to punt and risk and that sort
Speaker 1: of block. I was a little surprised the.
Speaker 3: Hole for them to do anything. I'm glad they did.
Speaker 3: I had I havee plus and a half and I'm
Speaker 3: glad they did.
Speaker 1: By the way, the other the other thing, and the
Speaker 1: last thing we didn't talk about for divisional round is
Speaker 1: these uh this whole thing about the officiating going the
Speaker 1: Chiefs way in Kansas City. The Mahomes late slide, which
Speaker 1: which Houston got flagged for because two Houston Texans crashed
Speaker 1: into each other and that gave the Chiefs fifteen yards earlier,
Speaker 1: the phantom roughing the passer on will Anderson Junior against Mahomes,
Speaker 1: which extended that drive, and there was a there was
Speaker 1: a third Oh, there was another play where I think
Speaker 1: it was Noah Gray clearly didn't get a first down.
Speaker 1: They gave it to him and then they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess he didn't get it. Let's mark it back.
Speaker 1: So I think the worst outcome for the league this
Speaker 1: week is Kansas City winning an officials aided game would
Speaker 1: just be a disaster, like people would bonds their money.
Speaker 5: By the way, did you see that like Ron Torbert's
Speaker 5: crew is like doing the Super Bowl now too, How
Speaker 5: does that happen? And then and then you get your conspiracy,
Speaker 5: You get your conspiracy theorists out there, like the the
Speaker 5: the image that the NFL put out there as like.
Speaker 3: Red and yellow trim.
Speaker 5: It's like say, there you go, She's are gonna win
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl now, Ron Torbert and a yellow and
Speaker 5: red Twitter picture pronouncing the officiating crew.
Speaker 4: Which is funny because this whole Chiefs run starting that
Speaker 4: AFC title game versus Brady and the Patriots where they
Speaker 4: had a ring wiped off the board pretty much because
Speaker 4: de Ford lined up with like a finger off side
Speaker 4: Brady throws an interception doesn't count, they get the ball,
Speaker 4: they went in overtime, and now it's come full circle
Speaker 4: where it's like, man, it's uh, they're the ones that
Speaker 4: are getting all the calls, not that that was a
Speaker 4: bad call, which is just kind of funny.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs in their seventh straight AFC championship, which is
Speaker 1: just mind boggling. They're trying to become the first team
Speaker 1: to ever three peat during the Super Bowl era. The
Speaker 1: Bills trying to win their first Super Bowl. Of course,
Speaker 1: the Bills franchise is the only franchise to have gone
Speaker 1: to four consecutive Super Bowls and they happen to lose
Speaker 1: them all to the Giants, to Washington and twice to Dallas.
Speaker 1: In the early nineties, Washington tried to do the impossible,
Speaker 1: go from four and thirteen to a Super Bowl. What
Speaker 1: they've already done is impossible. And then Philly trying to
Speaker 1: get back to their to win their second after you know,
Speaker 1: losing two years ago to the.
Speaker 2: Other the way, can you can you bet on who's
Speaker 2: going to be in the luxury box with Hailey Steinfeld?
Speaker 2: Because I know that now Caitlyn Clark sits with Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: So if Kaitlyn Clark can sit with Taylor Swift, then
Speaker 2: Hailey Steinfeld, who I believe is the girlfriend of Josh
Speaker 2: Allen if I'm not correct, who would sit with her?
Speaker 2: I would DJ Carrington all the marbles dj A Garington,
Speaker 2: that is correct. Dj A Jerrington nine is four fifty
Speaker 2: to sit with Hailey Steinfeld at the Bells game.
Speaker 5: Should bring there the whole, Get the whole, which is
Speaker 5: Caitlyn Clark going?
Speaker 2: That'd be awesome?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 1: Do we have any bets for championship? There's only two games.
Speaker 1: But do I have any bets?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 3: I do?
Speaker 1: What do you got?
Speaker 2: I got got the Philadelphia Fly. I learned the Eagles song.
Speaker 2: It goes like this, fly Eagles Fly on to Victor,
Speaker 2: we fly Eagles. I don't know any of other words,
Speaker 2: but I know the fly fly party, so a good fly.
Speaker 2: It is such a dumb song. They sing constantly like
Speaker 2: fly Egles Fly, and all I can hear is the
Speaker 2: kid from Howard Stern who is a big His name
Speaker 2: is Mark the Bagger, one of the whack pack who
Speaker 2: loves the Eagles, and he goes, fly Egles Fly, the
Speaker 2: funniest thing ever. Anyways, it's the dumbest song ever, but
Speaker 2: it was pretty funny. I like the Eagles, and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna tell you I like the Eagle. I went back
Speaker 2: through the two football games, and I'm gonna throw the
Speaker 2: second game. The last fifty four minutes of the second game,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw right in the garbage. And the reason
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw the game right in the garbage is
Speaker 2: there is a former Yinser quarterback at quarterback for the
Speaker 2: Igles that day, a man named Kenny Pickett. And everyone
Speaker 2: donnare said, oh, actually, I think it was Kenny Pickett
Speaker 2: had the small hands in that if I if I,
Speaker 2: if I remember, you're right anyway, You're right. I don't
Speaker 2: think that guy down here, well, look I saw him
Speaker 2: at Permann. He's one time trying to pick up his
Speaker 2: same which you couldn't even do. It is Andrew too
Speaker 2: small and that's a big Anyways, the point is the
Speaker 2: guy whos got small hands, he's not a good quarterback.
Speaker 2: But that game was fifty four minutes of Kenny Pickett,
Speaker 2: six minutes of Jalen Hurts. Now, I'll give the Redskins
Speaker 2: credit for coming back to win the game. And don't
Speaker 2: get me wrong, they're obviously I love Daniels. I still
Speaker 2: have the twenty two to one for Washington win the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. I'm sure I'm not going to get there.
Speaker 2: But the I mean, the thing is, in that game,
Speaker 2: they did not run the ball well. The only one
Speaker 2: who ran well was Daniels nine for eighty one. The
Speaker 2: other Robinson guy, the regular traditional runner runners couldn't run,
Speaker 2: just like they couldn't run against Tampa Bay. And look,
Speaker 2: they did some nice things on offense, but it was
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett just trying to hold down the fort after
Speaker 2: getting a big lead. So I'm throwing that whole game
Speaker 2: in the garbage. I'm going back to the first game
Speaker 2: when everybody played and the way the Commanders played tremendously
Speaker 2: well defensively in that first half of that game and
Speaker 2: went to the break up seven to three. At that point,
Speaker 2: the Eagles made.
Speaker 1: Some indu three.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, break.
Speaker 2: Three. Then they got a field goal, right So then
Speaker 2: from that point on, the Eagles scored three touchdowns in
Speaker 2: a field goal in the second half on long drives,
Speaker 2: and Washington really couldn't do too much in that second half,
Speaker 2: and the Eagles pulled away nicely. To me, the Commander's
Speaker 2: defense is the fly in the ointment. Now they got
Speaker 2: away with it. They don't. Don't roll your eyes, Gilly.
Speaker 2: They got away with it with the five turnovers. But
Speaker 2: let's be fair, Detroit could have scored a thousand points
Speaker 2: in that game had they not turned the ball over
Speaker 2: every four seconds. And this team, the Eagles, they have
Speaker 2: a guy named Saquon Barkley. He has a tendency to
Speaker 2: run long distances. I believe he ran for a sixty
Speaker 2: nine yard touchdown at one of the games. They're not
Speaker 2: going to be able to stop the Eagles. So now
Speaker 2: it's a question is can commanders hold up. I don't
Speaker 2: think they can hang with them. So I'm going to
Speaker 2: go with the Eagles. I'm gonna lay the points. I
Speaker 2: don't want this to be the case because I have
Speaker 2: the Washington ticket to win the Super Bowl. But I
Speaker 2: have to be an objective guy and say Barry Bonds,
Speaker 2: Joe Gibbs and the rest of them cannot bring home
Speaker 2: the game this week, and mister Filico will be laughing
Speaker 2: all the way to the bank.
Speaker 3: I have' you're you're a poet, and you don't know it?
Speaker 5: Does It doesn't feel like either Washington wins or loses
Speaker 5: by like double digits. Like it feels like to either
Speaker 5: go in there and win and pull the opposite or
Speaker 5: the Eagles, kind of like that first meeting win by
Speaker 5: like fourteen or.
Speaker 3: Something like that.
Speaker 1: No outcome would surprise me, No outcome would surprise me.
Speaker 1: A couple of things. One on the Kenny Pickett game
Speaker 1: that Todd throws out, He's also conveniently throwing out the
Speaker 1: fact that the Eagles were plus three in turnovers in
Speaker 1: that game and still fucking lost. So the picket narrative
Speaker 1: is a bit of how can I put this horse manure?
Speaker 1: He couldn't do anything. So there's that so.
Speaker 3: Up and down the field.
Speaker 5: Though in that game though get they were like they
Speaker 5: still they still ran the ball. They still had uh
Speaker 5: thirty three points. There were three to sixty the game.
Speaker 2: That's for me.
Speaker 5: Let me saying it, and I think it's applicable for
Speaker 5: this week because we don't know if Hurts Hurts is
Speaker 5: fully healthy and what he's going to be able to do.
Speaker 5: Should he should he played the second the first game
Speaker 5: rather in Philly with a concussion. I went back with
Speaker 5: reading some of the quotes and uh it was He's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I I don't remember that player. I probably shouldn't say
Speaker 5: that postgame and yeah, I managed to work my way
Speaker 5: through protocol like wink wank, like he he played that
Speaker 5: first game with concussion, and they went like, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I I know we're not giving out picks in terms
Speaker 5: of like props or anything like that. But I saw
Speaker 5: an Eagles team total over twenty six and a half.
Speaker 5: It was minus one twenty, but that was like the like,
Speaker 5: how would the Eagles not scoring twenty points?
Speaker 2: I like that a lot.
Speaker 1: If I could finish my thought after the comma where
Speaker 1: I will give you an Eagles uh warning, what you.
Speaker 2: Were about to hear? What you were about to hear
Speaker 2: is coming from a man who has a slight bias
Speaker 2: warning warning. Oh go ahead, Billy Goad.
Speaker 1: Be tugging.
Speaker 2: The You know.
Speaker 1: The argument for the Eagles is this that they're a defense,
Speaker 1: that defense first team, which both the Lions and the
Speaker 1: Bucks were not. For instance, the most two recent games,
Speaker 1: and what Jayden Daniels just absolutely feasts on. By the way,
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels total QBR out of one hundred since the
Speaker 1: Commander's seven game winning streak began is a total QBR
Speaker 1: of eighty two point three, ranked second only to Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: But against the blitz this year, ninety point one QBR
Speaker 1: this regular season, and by the way, against Detroit it
Speaker 1: was ninety one point eight. But what do the Eagles
Speaker 1: not have to do blitz? So that's the that's for me.
Speaker 1: The biggest argument is that the Eagles defense is so good.
Speaker 1: They have the fourth lowest blitz rate in the entire
Speaker 1: league this year. They can just play at Kosher and
Speaker 1: let Jalen Carter do his thing. I think the Sam
Speaker 1: Cosmey injury is big on the red offensive line, so
Speaker 1: I think that's the argument for the Eagles. But good
Speaker 1: luck you're playing Boy Wonder, who to me is the
Speaker 1: greatest quarterback has ever played.
Speaker 2: The Rams blocked him up pretty good. I was kind
Speaker 2: of surprised that Stafford had the time that he had
Speaker 2: to throw on a lot of that, so, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, obviously, and the other thing, I was kind
Speaker 2: of surprised with it. Karen Williams got some nice runs
Speaker 2: off too against him. I was kind of surprised about
Speaker 2: both of those. But I mean, I would think that
Speaker 2: the Rams offensive line is I don't know how they
Speaker 2: grade out against Washington's offensive line. It's going to be a.
Speaker 1: Balming day in Philly in the forties, by the way,
Speaker 1: so we'll not be in it.
Speaker 5: Just looks like no snow, no slow, no no slow,
Speaker 5: no snow, and not a lot of winds in other place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can take I just want to know. I
Speaker 1: just want to know, Todd if if Washington wins, are
Speaker 1: you going to do this again in the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, the Skins are defense is lucky? Oh bah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that shit you do with the Skins defense.
Speaker 2: Will Let's let's ask Willy, a guy who's still crying
Speaker 2: in his tears about Sammy Darnold. Willy, your thoughts on
Speaker 2: the Washington commander's defense. Is it the Gilly smoking mirrors
Speaker 2: they're much better than everyone thinks they are? Or am
Speaker 2: I right and that they really say? Wait what?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, don't misrepresent what I said. Is you think
Speaker 1: they suck? I say they're middling, So that's why you
Speaker 1: underrate them. I say they're they're below average?
Speaker 2: Is that fair? Really makes me called average or middle?
Speaker 2: I say middling is a good word for it.
Speaker 4: But I was reading some of the Aaron shot stuff
Speaker 4: our buddy, and he had some stats where he just
Speaker 4: doesn't think this is a good matchup for Washington because
Speaker 4: they're dv O ranks. The DVOA ranks for Washington twenty
Speaker 4: six run defense, twenty sixth in second level run defense,
Speaker 4: in thirty first in open field run defense. So he's
Speaker 4: got all these different breakdowns of like, once they hit
Speaker 4: the second level, how well do they defend once you're
Speaker 4: in open field? How well do they And he thinks
Speaker 4: once if and when Barkley can get to the second level,
Speaker 4: there will be some explosive runs coming, so that yeah, really.
Speaker 2: Really doesn't he have the Ravens as the third best
Speaker 2: team in the history of football, going all the way
Speaker 2: back to net Rockney in nineteen twenty one.
Speaker 5: Seven nine.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll take Newt Rockney above him. Go ahead, and
Speaker 2: then the.
Speaker 3: Choice for the word the worst fifteen and two team, right.
Speaker 1: That is correct. Saquon Barkley, to Willie's point against Washington
Speaker 1: averaging just over one hundred and thirty seven scrimmage yards
Speaker 1: per game. The only player to average more scrimmage yards
Speaker 1: against the single opponent in NFL history minimum ten games
Speaker 1: Jim Brown against the Eagles. So whenever, whenever you invoke
Speaker 1: the name of Jim Brown, you pretty much own a team,
Speaker 1: and Saon has good.
Speaker 2: Is that for the Commanders?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm giving you all your bullet points.
Speaker 1: I'm giving you guys, all the respect, all the bullet points.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is this, this, this is all gravy
Speaker 1: for us. They were alwly, they were never supposed to
Speaker 1: get to the playoffs.
Speaker 2: They got to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: During the year, all I kept saying was they're gonna
Speaker 1: get to the playoffs. At the most they win one game,
Speaker 1: then they go into Detroit. By the way, there's not
Speaker 1: a Washington fan among us who's like, who went into
Speaker 1: Detroit was like, Oh, yeah, we're gonna crush them by it,
Speaker 1: you know, for two scores. Basically three scores, right, but
Speaker 1: it was two scores in the end. There's not a
Speaker 1: Washington fan who at this point isn't like, holy fuck,
Speaker 1: what is happening. So if they lose, it would surprise nobody.
Speaker 1: But the fact that they're sixty minutes away and have
Speaker 1: more than a puncher's chance. This isn't like Buster Douglas,
Speaker 1: this is all I had already beaten this team, and
Speaker 1: this kid just went into Detroit and beat the greatest
Speaker 1: Lions team in a franchise history badly.
Speaker 2: Oh can I say one thing about that? From me
Speaker 2: and Willy? Me and Willy. I don't know about you, Willy.
Speaker 2: At first, when I saw Dan Campbell crying, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: you got a feel for Dan Campbell. And then I
Speaker 2: harkened back to a time when me and Willie had
Speaker 2: a great bet under twenty eight and a half attempts
Speaker 2: for Jared Goff against Jaguars and that asshole up forty
Speaker 2: nine to seven.
Speaker 3: They might have been up seventy.
Speaker 2: Seven to seven in the fourth quarters throwing the goddamn ball.
Speaker 2: So I do not have even a sintilla of empathy
Speaker 2: for that. Endless wings and endless passes. You got what
Speaker 2: you deserve. You ever heard of karma? It's a bitch.
Speaker 2: Dan Cry, Eagles Cry, Cry, Dan Campbell, BA go to
Speaker 2: hell Dan Campbell for throwing the ball against the Jags.
Speaker 2: We deserve him to be out of there.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, it's go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Well, oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: Last thing I want to say about this because I
Speaker 1: want to go to crazy on Daniels, my favorite Daniels.
Speaker 1: Did you hear the Aaron Andrews stat about Daniels Jaden
Speaker 1: Daniels more games with no punts and no turnovers then
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Joe Montana, and Patrick Mahomes combined
Speaker 1: in their careers. All year, I've been saying that it
Speaker 1: is really hard to beat a team. This is football,
Speaker 1: one oh one. We can take all that other shit.
Speaker 1: I said. This is football one oh one. If you
Speaker 1: are playing a team where the quarterback does not fumble,
Speaker 1: does not throw picks, and they never fucking punt the
Speaker 1: football and he never gets sacked. Good fucking luck. I
Speaker 1: sent you guys that fourth down thing this week. Did
Speaker 1: you see that They're eighty seven percent on fourth down?
Speaker 1: Not even close to the number two team. It's like,
Speaker 1: way way ahead the number two team with seventy five
Speaker 1: of the remaining playoff teams. So I'm just saying, could
Speaker 1: it end any given day? Sure? But and by the way,
Speaker 1: that eighty seven percent is not like, oh, is that sustainable?
Speaker 1: It's always fourth and short right when people throw out
Speaker 1: blanket fourth down stats, they fail to like differentiate between
Speaker 1: fourth and seven or fourth and two, and it's always
Speaker 1: short yardage and it's automatic with this kid. This is
Speaker 1: not the Eagles team that won the Super Bowl where
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson got all this credit for their ridiculous luck
Speaker 1: of hitting third and seven and beyond at an unsustainable rate,
Speaker 1: which they happen to sustain for a full year.
Speaker 2: Right, So this is different.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I have no bet on it, so I'm just
Speaker 1: telling you, I'm just I'm just laying out the kid.
Speaker 2: My official bet is Eagles minus six, and my second
Speaker 2: favorite bet is the Chris Filika team total Eagles over.
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it, Chris.
Speaker 4: I'll go with Eagles minus six as well as an
Speaker 4: official bet.
Speaker 5: I'm sitting here and thinking about this skill. I'm thinking
Speaker 5: back and like as a team, like long suffering Jets fan,
Speaker 5: Like it reminds me like you're talking about like the
Speaker 5: mentality of like the Skins fans like house money and
Speaker 5: like by the time Sunday comes around, you're convincing yourself
Speaker 5: they're gonna win.
Speaker 3: So I'm thinking back to what was a two thousand
Speaker 3: and season.
Speaker 5: No, I say, here's here's here's what I'm getting at,
Speaker 5: Like did you Mark Sanchez beat beat Pete and Manning
Speaker 5: and Indy and they beat the Patriots, Like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: they got the Pittsburgh. They're gonna go to this They're gonna
Speaker 5: beat the Steeler and go to the super Bowl, like
Speaker 5: they can beat the Steelers, and then it just didn't
Speaker 5: click and they were like spent by the mental It
Speaker 5: was funny. I was talking to someone and he's like,
Speaker 5: I wish you would have talked to me before the game,
Speaker 5: because I knew they had no chance. They were just
Speaker 5: mentally and physically spent their work and to go to
Speaker 5: go to Pittsburgh and what it like reminds me of
Speaker 5: that as like a fan mentality like it's like, oh,
Speaker 5: we got no shot, we got no shot? Wow, be
Speaker 5: picking Manning, all right, we're not gonna be the Patriots.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, we beat the Patriots. Happening now, It's like,
Speaker 5: I I just hope by Sunday you're not setting yourself
Speaker 5: up for a gut punch I got like I had John,
Speaker 5: not me.
Speaker 2: I would never get optimistic nose.
Speaker 3: Okay, good, but I'm good.
Speaker 1: But you bring up you bring up Sanchez, and you
Speaker 1: brought up the Steelers and Roethlisberger.
Speaker 5: Like so.
Speaker 1: Jayde Neils is the sixth quarterback, sixth rookie quarterback ever
Speaker 1: to get to a conference championship game. The other five
Speaker 1: Shaun King with Tampa had a third ranked defense with Tampa,
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger in two thousand and four with the Steelers,
Speaker 1: the Steelers defense under Dick lebou was the first ranked defense,
Speaker 1: and Joe Flacco with the Ravens in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 1: the Ravens had the third ranked defense third top ranked defense.
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez for your Jets in two thousand and nine,
Speaker 1: the Jets had the third ranked defense. Rock Perty Two
Speaker 1: years ago with the Niners, the Niners had the number
Speaker 1: one ranked defense. Jayden Daniels' defense is eighteenth.
Speaker 2: Also I heard them, I heard they were middling.
Speaker 1: Middling. That's very middle. That's a middle. And also Ben,
Speaker 1: by the way, middle is sixteen and a half, right,
Speaker 1: so I don't I mean sixteen on the button right.
Speaker 1: So also the other thing about this last thing, like
Speaker 1: you think about those teams Rothelsberger and Sanchez, those teams,
Speaker 1: if you remember, we're.
Speaker 2: Like, okay, don't fuck this up, just don't do anything wrong.
Speaker 1: The defense will win this game or third down and
Speaker 1: just we'll run the ball into the cloud. It doesn't
Speaker 1: we'll pump with not only are they doing not only
Speaker 1: are they not that, but they're like, all right, Jade,
Speaker 1: and it's four and fourth and four, have at it.
Speaker 1: It's like the complete opposite. There's no point he's the
Speaker 1: greatest rookie quarterback of all time.
Speaker 2: Of course, it's not even close. I mean, he was
Speaker 2: also five hundred years older than everybody else. But I
Speaker 2: do agree with obviously we all agree that Jayden and
Speaker 2: Daniels is better.
Speaker 1: Than all those other guys.
Speaker 2: But that's obvious.
Speaker 1: You know, you know else was five hundred years older
Speaker 1: than everybody else, Chris Wanky, So that's not a guarantee either.
Speaker 2: Chris Wanky was a great baseball player, if I remember correctly,
Speaker 2: it was. But anyways that I think we we we
Speaker 2: all know where you're coming down. Jaden Barry, Us Bonds,
Speaker 2: Gibbs Daniels. I don't have to. I don't have a bet.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is any outcome. There's no outcome that
Speaker 1: would surprise me. The Skins won, it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 1: If they covered, it wouldn't surprise me. If the Eagles
Speaker 1: won by two scores, fourteen points, it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 2: It really wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying a lot of people who are super
Speaker 1: confident about the Eagles, and I'm like, easy, do you
Speaker 1: think we'll have.
Speaker 2: Hail to the Commanders as the song?
Speaker 4: Is?
Speaker 2: That gone? Right? But I'm saying, did they take that song?
Speaker 1: The Commanders is like left Like there's some bullshits song
Speaker 1: where people are like left, hand up.
Speaker 2: They don't play, they don't play the Hail to the
Speaker 2: Redskins anymore. That thing's gone.
Speaker 1: Me and the real fans, the real fans do, I
Speaker 1: don't know if they do officially, I don't.
Speaker 2: Oh see I was going to give him a better song,
Speaker 2: because it's way better than Fly Eagles Fly, It's way better.
Speaker 2: Hail to the Redskins is like great, the.
Speaker 1: Greatest jam of all time? Uh, the our till matchup
Speaker 1: is not that one.
Speaker 5: Yes, before we get to the b I have a
Speaker 5: question for you. What are you rooting for more this weekend?
Speaker 5: A Washington football team Commander Taco Holder win in the
Speaker 5: NFC Championship Game to get to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Or a pair of six six two.
Speaker 5: Wins by Egos fiatech over Madison Keys and then either
Speaker 5: sable Anca or Bondosa in the Australian Open Final.
Speaker 3: What would bring a bigger smile to your face? Warm
Speaker 3: your heart.
Speaker 2: I'm going to commanders for Gilly. He's still commanders all
Speaker 2: the way back the Thean.
Speaker 1: The Fiantech win would make me more money by far,
Speaker 1: and of course it would keep her on pace with
Speaker 1: Serena to be the greatest of all time, which is
Speaker 1: again my boldest prediction evolved.
Speaker 3: But no one, No one believes that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is oh everybody, everybody will believe it, just
Speaker 1: like no one believed it.
Speaker 2: Just like no one believed it.
Speaker 1: Chris, when I said you would in double digit majors.
Speaker 1: They'll get there. It's just we're just a little too
Speaker 1: ahead of history.
Speaker 3: But they can.
Speaker 2: But the Washington football team, come on.
Speaker 1: My buddy Reza in the Bay Area, Iranian friend of
Speaker 1: mine used to ask me, he goes Gil, if the
Speaker 1: Redskins fought Iran in a war, no, that fought Israel
Speaker 1: in a war, who would you fight for Redskins?
Speaker 2: Probably I would say you Redskins.
Speaker 1: Plight for the Redskins. I chose the Redskins.
Speaker 2: I took the Stillers minus three and a half against
Speaker 2: Israel in nineteen eighty three on the road to.
Speaker 1: The Marquee Matage Buffalo and Kansas City. No Ravens, No Ravens, Buffalo,
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Josh Allen as the Patrick Mahomes hurdle. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs are now favored by two in this game, and
Speaker 1: he bets here nobody I looked.
Speaker 2: I looked back at that this game. The Bills kind
Speaker 2: of won this game a lot easier than it. It
Speaker 2: really seemed. I thought the were definitely I looked at
Speaker 2: all the drive charts, you know, back from the first game.
Speaker 2: But I don't I don't want to go against Andy
Speaker 2: and Spags and it's just too hard to call.
Speaker 5: I don't know what you guys think, but it feels
Speaker 5: like an undergame to me, neither offense really, I mean
Speaker 5: you talk about we saw also how Buffalo was just
Speaker 5: so fortunate last week with the turnover lock and you
Speaker 5: only had one penalty and they gained a couple of
Speaker 5: first downs by Ravens penalty. I mean, Allen was sixteen
Speaker 5: to twenty two for a book twenty six to front.
Speaker 5: That's insane to be able to win a game like
Speaker 5: that where you average four yards of play, like I
Speaker 5: don't know, and then Kansas City the same way. I mean,
Speaker 5: if it wasn't throwing a kelsey, the Chiefs couldn't move
Speaker 5: the ball and they got a couple of drives extended
Speaker 5: by penalties like we talked about, Like I don't know,
Speaker 5: it almost feels like one of those. And again you
Speaker 5: can't handicap this based on like e motion and a
Speaker 5: gut feel, but it's like it almost comes full circle
Speaker 5: where like the Bills were meant to come back here
Speaker 5: to end the dynasty when I maybe not, but end
Speaker 5: the three peat run to uh to get here and
Speaker 5: win this game, like I take the Bills plus two
Speaker 5: here if it feels like.
Speaker 3: Kansas City. Just all was funny.
Speaker 5: We were talking about how all of the upsets like
Speaker 5: the and what's gonna wind up happening. Come the playoffs
Speaker 5: and we're going to get a super Bowl without the
Speaker 5: Chiefs or the Lines, And I think that's gonna I
Speaker 5: like the Bills on Sunday.
Speaker 4: I think, whoever you pick in this game, if you
Speaker 4: get the game wrong, you're gonna feel like an idiot.
Speaker 2: If you go against.
Speaker 4: Mahomes and read and you lose and they beat you
Speaker 4: can why the hell did I pick against them? But
Speaker 4: if you go against the Bills and you pick the Chiefs, man,
Speaker 4: it was like you're saying, it's the Bills time. The
Speaker 4: Bills were kind of due the Chiefs weren't as good
Speaker 4: as the record. The Bills were kinda due to break
Speaker 4: through and beat them when it counts.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm at the point where until I see it happen
Speaker 4: with the Bills beating the Chiefs in a big spot.
Speaker 2: It's funny.
Speaker 4: They always beat them in the playoffs. They always beat
Speaker 4: them in the railar season. They never beat them in the playoff.
Speaker 4: And I do think you have to factor into like, hey,
Speaker 4: they're going to Chiefs, are going to get one or
Speaker 4: two calls at home instead of crying about it kind
Speaker 4: of factored into your handicapping bills. Might be a couple
Speaker 4: of they got a couple of dbacks banged up. I
Speaker 4: don't know their their status rapping. I think it's Benford
Speaker 4: the other guy. And maybe I thought about the Washington
Speaker 4: game too. Are they do a little turnover aggression because
Speaker 4: those are plus three and turnovers last week, just like
Speaker 4: Washington's plus six and turnovers for the postseason, six takeaways,
Speaker 4: no giveaways, Buffalo's three takeaways, no giveaways. Man, you're going
Speaker 4: to Kansas City with a little turnover aggression. Maybe not
Speaker 4: that it's going to manifest in one game, but it
Speaker 4: is something that at least I considered.
Speaker 2: Who said defense wins championships? By the way, who said
Speaker 2: defense wins champions Johnny Carrington said it. No, it wasn't hurt.
Speaker 2: Somebody said defense wins championships. I think you guys would
Speaker 2: all agree the Chiefs the defense is worse. The Chiefs
Speaker 2: defense is better. So on that score, you might want
Speaker 2: to take the Kansas City Spagnola's because their defense is better.
Speaker 5: But what be the only thing I would say to that,
Speaker 5: and while I agree with you, is the one thing
Speaker 5: that a defense cannot account for is when all the
Speaker 5: shit breaks down and you got Josh Allen scrambling for
Speaker 5: twenty two yards on third and seven, Like that's the
Speaker 5: only issue you have when like we're lying on a
Speaker 5: dominant defense doing is the stuff that you just can't
Speaker 5: defend because you're not expecting it.
Speaker 1: That's a great point what will said, though you'll feel
Speaker 1: stupid either way. Let me put it in another way.
Speaker 1: If these two games both the NFC and AFC Championship,
Speaker 1: but let's say they weren't the AFCNSA Championship. Let's say
Speaker 1: it was Week eleven. They both played each other in
Speaker 1: week eleven. If this was in the middle of a
Speaker 1: ten am or a one pm East coast window, these
Speaker 1: two games existed among six others, would you be betting
Speaker 1: these two games?
Speaker 2: Probably not now?
Speaker 1: Probably not? Probably not because we go back and forth.
Speaker 1: The only reason we're betting it was because they're there.
Speaker 2: What's the Kansas City weather.
Speaker 3: To be?
Speaker 5: Fine?
Speaker 3: Thirties right around thirty is no wing?
Speaker 1: By the way, do you did you like that there
Speaker 1: was big snow in the Rams Eagles game because I
Speaker 1: brought this up that you lost it.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it, but I remember my dad used to say,
Speaker 1: he'd be like, it's a shame that such a big
Speaker 1: game is decided by weather, right, And I also pointed
Speaker 1: out he's the same guy that also said the way
Speaker 1: to make baseball fair is to let everybody take steroids, right,
Speaker 1: So vision.
Speaker 5: Exactly.
Speaker 1: I love it loading target, but but I I because
Speaker 1: some people be like, oh, that sucks that a game,
Speaker 1: you know, gets decided with inclement weather.
Speaker 2: I still love Did you see what Kurt Warner said
Speaker 2: about this on video on Twitter? He actually made it.
Speaker 2: I happen to agree with both of you. I like
Speaker 2: it when the weather's in there, you know, because oh,
Speaker 2: you could get the home field advantage and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Kurt Warner had a whole video saying it's not fair
Speaker 2: because if you're on Arizona, like his team, right was
Speaker 2: Arizona at the end of his career. He said, in Arizona,
Speaker 2: they can come down to play in our building and
Speaker 2: there's no problem with weather. It's like perfect weather every
Speaker 2: single time, and and there's no issue whatsoever. And whereas
Speaker 2: we can't do that over there they have they have
Speaker 2: the opportunity if it's snowing, to get something special, whereas
Speaker 2: we don't. Which was an interesting point to me. But
Speaker 2: then what.
Speaker 5: Then isn't that home field advantage? Right?
Speaker 2: But no, no, but what he's saying is his home
Speaker 2: field advantage can't be as as big a deal as
Speaker 2: the other team's home field advantage because they play in
Speaker 2: a regular, you know stadium that's perfect. Now, Now you
Speaker 2: could also argue those I remember when the dome teams
Speaker 2: used to have. I don't know what happened to that
Speaker 2: where it got so loud Remember when it used to
Speaker 2: get so loud and dome. Yeah, so that you know,
Speaker 2: you can go I personally like, I like it when
Speaker 2: the weather is part of it and everything. So I
Speaker 2: don't really agree with Kurt Warner, but he kind of
Speaker 2: made me question in it a little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But but I mean, no one forced them to sign
Speaker 1: with Arizona, And it's not like the weather snuck up
Speaker 1: on the northern cities versus the southern right, And so
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, that's true, but like you knew this
Speaker 1: in advance kind of thing, right, So I have like,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, but what He's all he's trying to say is
Speaker 2: that they have a better they have a better the
Speaker 2: better benefit, right, they have the better benefit of the understand.
Speaker 1: That, No, obviously I understand that, right, but like.
Speaker 2: Look at should should shook right, right, But everybody has
Speaker 2: that with this that your fans could be loud. But
Speaker 2: whereas the Northeastern teams, the weather teams, and the Seattle
Speaker 2: with the rain and stuff, they have an extra added
Speaker 2: benefit that they can throw into their home field advantage.
Speaker 2: Gulash is what he's saying. I kind of let's just
Speaker 2: say it's unfair.
Speaker 4: Let's just go one step further and let's all agree
Speaker 4: it's completely unfair.
Speaker 2: Okay, what's the solution? What do you want to do?
Speaker 2: Play like field? I agree with you, really, I agree
Speaker 2: with yeah.
Speaker 1: This has been football since the dawn of time. And
Speaker 1: again I'll get back to what I said before, which
Speaker 1: still stands, which is okay, then don't sign with Arizonas.
Speaker 4: Some conversation in the past about having the conference championship
Speaker 4: games played neutral setting, almost like they have a Final
Speaker 4: four at one destination and play one game Saturday, one
Speaker 4: game Sunday.
Speaker 2: And have it be a toll man.
Speaker 4: I don't think I would have liked that, but I've
Speaker 4: heard that idea, but I don't think the advantage.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: God, I wish there was another game this weekend because
Speaker 5: I love to tease the Buffalo Kansas City total up
Speaker 5: and go under that with something else.
Speaker 2: Bills is a teacher like Bills. To me, the Bills
Speaker 2: is a great teacher like that. The game should be
Speaker 2: close to love to.
Speaker 3: Tease like both of those up.
Speaker 2: I believe North Florida Chris is going to be playing
Speaker 2: on Saturday, and they have a tendency to go over
Speaker 2: the total. The North Florida Ospray. Check out the North
Speaker 2: Florida Aspray's team total either against them or for them,
Speaker 2: because they like to give up a million. And by
Speaker 2: the way, I check this out on Ken Palm. You know,
Speaker 2: obviously in all sports, and this goes for football as well.
Speaker 2: When you have a team that's tremendous on offense and
Speaker 2: terrible on defense and plays at a high pace in
Speaker 2: football or basketball, it's always an overteam and the difference
Speaker 2: between their offense and their defensive ranking, they're like seventieth
Speaker 2: on offense and like three hundred and fiftieth on defense.
Speaker 2: They're like one of the most extreme teams ever. It's
Speaker 2: almost like that Tampa Bay Buccaneers team with when Jamis
Speaker 2: was throwing all those interceptions and me and Jeff Parls
Speaker 2: were rooting them home over every single week because they
Speaker 2: were so good on offense and so bad on defense.
Speaker 2: And then you know, so I just love those kind
Speaker 2: of teams. That's a great thing for all of sports.
Speaker 2: By the way, if you see teams that are great
Speaker 2: on offense and terrible on defense, they have a tendency
Speaker 2: to be like huge over teams because the averages can't
Speaker 2: catch up with that.
Speaker 5: Last Broadly, another hoops team that's a big they play
Speaker 5: very sad, the old Illinois State Redbirds.
Speaker 2: They're over.
Speaker 1: Did anybody bet any Super Bowl m v P players anybody? No,
Speaker 1: I did not, nobody.
Speaker 2: Super Bowl Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 1: So getting ahead of the possible, so you don't know
Speaker 1: sight unseen if they're going to be there, but you know,
Speaker 1: the thinking being, hey, if Washington gets there, let me
Speaker 1: put into jad and Daniels bet now that kind of
Speaker 1: orf Baltimore got there, a lot of people were betting
Speaker 1: Lamar already. Okay, so nobody So here's the last Now that.
Speaker 3: You brought it up.
Speaker 2: I might look, yeah, is there an.
Speaker 5: Argument to make that if the like, if the Chiefs
Speaker 5: do get there, like it could be someone other than Mahomes,
Speaker 5: being that the Chiefs offense has been.
Speaker 2: There's an argument to me make.
Speaker 4: I don't want to back it up with money. Just
Speaker 4: these things are so slanted towards the quarterback. I mean,
Speaker 4: I know, who are you saying? Somebody made the case
Speaker 4: of Hey, if it was last week, it would have
Speaker 4: gone to Kelsey's the MVP.
Speaker 1: Maybe Matt Brown not ready.
Speaker 4: The first Niners chief Super Bowl, was it Damian Williams
Speaker 4: scored three touchdowns and h M mep Obviously no he didn't.
Speaker 4: They still give it to my Homes Like it's just
Speaker 4: James White was another one. He might have had three
Speaker 4: touchdowns against the Falcons and one of those Patriots Falcons
Speaker 4: super Bowls still went to Brady. It's like, it's just, man,
Speaker 4: you gotta like you gotta.
Speaker 2: I don't even know, I don't even.
Speaker 4: Know what to uh to steal this from these especially
Speaker 4: these big name quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: And by the.
Speaker 5: Way, if the Eagles were to get were to get
Speaker 5: to the game, like I'm sure like Barkley would be
Speaker 5: the guy ever wanted.
Speaker 4: To be a different scenario, yes, Barkley of a difference.
Speaker 5: Like you could be East five to one, like I mean, but.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Josh.
Speaker 5: Could could you go like really really off the board
Speaker 5: and look for like one of the one of the
Speaker 5: defensive guys. Could you look for like a jail in
Speaker 5: quarter or something like that on on the and then you.
Speaker 1: Could not cast your Probably, Yeah, I had I had
Speaker 1: the Who was it who wanted when the Rams won?
Speaker 1: Was it per Cup who won? Or Aaron Donald?
Speaker 2: Who will Aaron Donald? I had Aaron Donald. I was
Speaker 2: convinced I.
Speaker 1: Was gonna win.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And they gave it to And then some people
Speaker 4: said they voted before that final drive and Donald like
Speaker 4: made the final play to disrupt Burrow or like get
Speaker 4: pressure on him, and.
Speaker 2: People like, oh, you know, I would have. I already
Speaker 2: had my voting.
Speaker 4: For uh, we have to we had current votes in
Speaker 4: earlier whatever.
Speaker 1: So it's well, that's a good point. That's a good
Speaker 1: point because they're making those votes on the fly and
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, so you don't even get to the
Speaker 1: end of the game with some of these votes. But
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is priced exactly like the Bills are, So
Speaker 1: it's not like there's an advantage betting Super Bowl imager there.
Speaker 5: Do we think Hurts is a playing and be how
Speaker 5: healthy do we think.
Speaker 2: He is playing?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 2: Healthy, probably not, probably not.
Speaker 5: So I was back to will what Jeff always Jeff
Speaker 5: Schwartz always says on our pod, like he's like, are
Speaker 5: you hurt or are you injured? Because at this point
Speaker 5: in the year, everybody is hurt, but uh is he injured?
Speaker 5: Like legit injured? So that's gonna that kind of like if.
Speaker 2: You go to the Buck and Al buffet, you know,
Speaker 2: and you're like two plates in, you're somewhat injured, but
Speaker 2: you're not hurt. You can go back and then you
Speaker 2: can hit the middle of the place with the dessert card.
Speaker 2: But now you know, prior to all that, then after
Speaker 2: all that, then.
Speaker 3: You may be injured.
Speaker 2: The Jets have hired by the way.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I have heard Aaron.
Speaker 2: Heard give me the under I don't think Aaron Glenn
Speaker 2: is going to be the answer. A great Detroit defense
Speaker 2: we saw on Saturday night. That was Troy defense.
Speaker 3: That that that's down to nine points.
Speaker 2: He's joking, he's joking. The first question A G.
Speaker 1: Todd doesn't get unless it's from him. Aaron Glenn, the
Speaker 1: first question I would have asked him an interview is
Speaker 1: what happened on that twelve minute on the field there,
Speaker 1: and that.
Speaker 2: Would like be the If he doesn't have a good answer,
Speaker 2: that's the end of the interview. Hey, bar Joe, I
Speaker 2: knew they were I knew they were joking. Barry Bonds, Okay,
Speaker 2: it's okay. You had no idea they were joking.
Speaker 1: You have no fucking idea they were.
Speaker 3: Just so So.
Speaker 5: Now you're gonna have Aaron Glenn, first time head coach
Speaker 5: with what a first time GM, the guy that I
Speaker 5: think is gonna be the GM and doesn't have any experience.
Speaker 5: You have to make a massive decision at quarterback, like
Speaker 5: what what are you going to do at quarterback? To Bree,
Speaker 5: I'm assuming Aaron Rodgers isn't coming back. You're you're dealing
Speaker 5: with with an owner who is clueless and the biggest
Speaker 5: media market in the country.
Speaker 3: All we're going to see now for.
Speaker 5: The next week or so and then again when the
Speaker 5: when the regular season starts again. Aaron Glenn giving up
Speaker 5: the touchdown of mark ingram on the fake spike, Like
Speaker 5: you talk about being put in a position to absolutely fail,
Speaker 5: like like this is textbook.
Speaker 2: I want to let Tyrod Taylor be the quarterback.
Speaker 1: I just want to get the Matt Brown no ahead,
Speaker 1: Matt Brown.
Speaker 2: Whose were dying to hear about Matt Brown No.
Speaker 1: It was to back up what Will was saying earlier
Speaker 1: that he was making the point that they would not
Speaker 1: They could not have given it to Mahomes.
Speaker 2: Mahomes threw for one hundred.
Speaker 1: And seventy seven yards against the Texans and one touchdown,
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventeen of those one seventy seven and
Speaker 1: the touchdown went to Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 2: That was his point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, last question, then we can get out of here.
Speaker 1: And this has nothing to do with betting. But I
Speaker 1: said this. I'm gonna put out a clip a little
Speaker 1: later about this. I said this on a numbers game,
Speaker 1: and I'm curious if you guys agree or disagree. I
Speaker 1: believe as a group of four teams, this is the
Speaker 1: most flawed and maybe the worst collective group of four
Speaker 1: that I can ever remember, because if you go back
Speaker 1: in recent history, I'm just saying, like, let's go away.
Speaker 1: If you go one year by one year, San Francisco,
Speaker 1: last year, Aaron Shots Adam as one of the top
Speaker 1: ten of all time?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: And they lost all those Kansas City Mahomes team with Tyreek,
Speaker 1: all those Brady teams, right, they all I just I
Speaker 1: look at these four teams and I'm like, are any
Speaker 1: of them great? And I don't think they are.
Speaker 2: I think this is one of them, maybe a seventh
Speaker 2: best team ever, that's true, one of them did? I
Speaker 2: don't know. Can I just say something, The Ravens are
Speaker 2: not the seventh best team in the history of the
Speaker 2: National Football League, even before they didn't lose to the Bills. Kid.
Speaker 2: I don't know what he has in his model, but
Speaker 2: I'd like to look under the hood, the Ravens are
Speaker 2: not you do you do any of you guys here?
Speaker 2: And by the way, Aaron Shots is obviously a very
Speaker 2: brilliant man, and he's, you know, great. I'm not taking
Speaker 2: any shots at him. I'm just saying, do any of
Speaker 2: you guys down that way in this particular case. In
Speaker 2: this particular case, I'm disagreeing that you can disagree with
Speaker 2: people who you know are brilliant. Do you do any
Speaker 2: of you guys think that the Ravens were the seventh
Speaker 2: best team in history of the National Football League.
Speaker 1: You see how you don't get humor, Todd. Aaron Shots
Speaker 1: was joking the whole time with that. No, he wasn't
Speaker 1: Oh there you go, uh no serious?
Speaker 5: Seven?
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I'm seventh, the best of all time. And
Speaker 1: then last year, remember he had both the Niners and
Speaker 1: Ravens his top two ten, top ten teams of all time,
Speaker 1: which didn't get.
Speaker 4: Them asks with your point, Todd, I agree with your assessment.
Speaker 1: Todd, Yes, Todd, thank you will.
Speaker 2: Chris do you think it was okay?
Speaker 5: Todd?
Speaker 1: Can we not go reject the original question was?
Speaker 2: What the original question? God damn it was? Is this
Speaker 2: the worst group before ever?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm looking at this, I'm looking at this right now,
Speaker 5: and I'm trying to I'm looking at like the stand
Speaker 5: like this, like the the Cardinal Steelers in two thousands.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say that one too. That's so weird
Speaker 2: you're going to bring that up. Because that's so weird.
Speaker 2: You're going to bring that up.
Speaker 4: Flacco was a rookie, they beat him, Arizona was a
Speaker 4: lower seed, and then Philly upset the Giants. That's it,
Speaker 4: That's it's funny you brought that up.
Speaker 2: I was like, here, what he can remember that? Oh
Speaker 2: eight when under the Donovanna once the Donovan McNab game.
Speaker 2: They lost thirty two to twenty five to Arizona for
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, Right, and that Eagles team was a
Speaker 2: really good team. If I'm not if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 2: am I wrong?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: It was Warner Warner I fit straw. The Cardinals were
Speaker 3: nine and seven that year.
Speaker 2: Right now, but I'm saying the Eagles. We're talking about
Speaker 2: the final four. In the Final four. The Eagles was
Speaker 2: a great team, was it? Warn't they wild card team
Speaker 2: in the division.
Speaker 3: The Eagles were nine six and one. The Giants were
Speaker 3: uh okay Panthers.
Speaker 4: The Panther ironically, Warner played the Eagles in Arizona, so
Speaker 4: we talked about like the Arizona playing in Philly and
Speaker 4: how that would be a disadvantage. But that was where
Speaker 4: it was foot through affiliate to go to Arizona.
Speaker 5: Over their playoff run that year with a twenty six
Speaker 5: fourteen win over the Viking.
Speaker 1: Yes, I just think it's interesting to bookmarket to say
Speaker 1: it out loud now, because as time goes on, people
Speaker 1: will look back and they'll be like, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about. It was Mahomes, it was Allen Jane Daniel's
Speaker 1: rookie year. What are you talking about? Like right now
Speaker 1: in the moment, it's sort of like, yeah, none of
Speaker 1: them are really because Washington with the middling defense, Kansas
Speaker 1: City fans will tell you this is not nearly their
Speaker 1: best team. I think Buffalo Bills fans will tell you
Speaker 1: the same, and the Eagles will absolutely tell you the same,
Speaker 1: even though their defense is awesome.
Speaker 5: So in two thousand and eight, that was to the
Speaker 5: the Brady acl year, So the Patriots didn't even have
Speaker 5: Brady that year. The Dolphins won the Yes, that was
Speaker 5: a real fugazi type year.
Speaker 4: Tomlin's only title, will Will Hill a lifelong crusade to
Speaker 4: bash Mike Doblin.
Speaker 2: I love Tom.
Speaker 4: Rabel's not far behind Rabels on my list too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, are we sure?
Speaker 3: Like this is like the home run? Like I I like.
Speaker 4: Him at all, But I don't know well he said
Speaker 4: in his press conference about how they got to run
Speaker 4: the ball and how when he run the ball x
Speaker 4: amount of times that leads you to a good record. Oh,
Speaker 4: let's uh man, run the ball, run the ball twenty
Speaker 4: bus times?
Speaker 1: You know you win seventy percent of your games, man.
Speaker 2: We're really doing this. By the way, the first half
Speaker 2: of the Super Bowl, first half of the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: and the Cardinals Steelers, it was over twenty three and
Speaker 2: a half. It was the first half. The score was
Speaker 2: ten to seven. I had a huge bet on over
Speaker 2: over twenty three and a half, and I'm just rooting
Speaker 2: against my Steelers. I'm rooting for Kurt Warner to punch
Speaker 2: it in so that they go fourteen ten at half
Speaker 2: and he throws it to Harrison and I almost have
Speaker 2: a home.
Speaker 5: Are you going rumbling down the sideline?
Speaker 2: He got ninety yet the pilot, Yeah, by the way,
Speaker 2: had the pilot. Let's say, Chris, you know it's funny
Speaker 2: that you said that the pylon did play a role
Speaker 2: in that in that play if you were that and
Speaker 2: and what's his name came from out of bounds. Larry
Speaker 2: Fitzgerald came from out of bounds to tackle him, and
Speaker 2: then they had to do the whole replay and I
Speaker 2: was like losing my mind. And he barely got the
Speaker 2: tip in on the pylon. It was so that was
Speaker 2: Madden's last game. Oh, that was last game.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's a great treasure. That's a great uh, a
Speaker 3: great note. All right, we done. That's like another one that.
Speaker 5: Read the random broadcast notes, is that uh for the
Speaker 5: ninety three Notre Dame in Florida State one versus two game, O. J.
Speaker 3: Simpson was on the sideline. It was the silent answer.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, what was he? What? Why was he? Notable?
Speaker 2: Chris Any wanted he.
Speaker 5: Was nineteen sixty eight Heisman Trophy winner and ran for
Speaker 5: the Nordberg said THEFL Senate that the NFL rushing record
Speaker 5: in what nineteen seventy two getting two hundred and something
Speaker 5: yards against the Jets in the regular season finale.
Speaker 4: Right, he's so like a on those naked gun movies.
Speaker 2: Sake Berg, Yeah, mhmm, all right.
Speaker 3: It's commercials.
Speaker 1: I believe, I believe we've done all we can do.
Speaker 1: This has been rollicking. This has been spirited.
Speaker 3: By the ways.
Speaker 5: By the way, I'm betting I'm betting uh in forty
Speaker 5: fifty two minutes.
Speaker 3: I'm betting uh nor under a half a goal against Leeds.
Speaker 2: I'm in.
Speaker 4: I told you, I told you, I told you Bear
Speaker 4: would be good. We said that Bear was gonna be
Speaker 4: the guest. Todd said in our group, Chatty goes, he's
Speaker 4: a college guy.
Speaker 2: He doesn't really know the NFL. We are you believe
Speaker 2: we have? I think what I said was, why do
Speaker 2: they give those network jobs to know nothings? I believe
Speaker 2: I said, why do they give those network jobs to
Speaker 2: know nothing? That's what I said?
Speaker 3: Like me exactly, I admit it. I amn't know nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm just a pretty That's what you are.
Speaker 2: Exactly what you are?
Speaker 1: Why are you laughing?
Speaker 2: To literally Kirk kurbs Street, Chris's friend, Kirk kurbs who
Speaker 2: I happened to really like. Kurhurbs Street and a lot
Speaker 2: of people, you know, take shots at him, and they
Speaker 2: were taking shots at him about the the Ohio State
Speaker 2: winning the thing and he was all emotional about it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that is a little like I
Speaker 2: don't think he should do that.
Speaker 3: But did Okay, I'm gonna give you a fault.
Speaker 5: Did you hear him yesterday as to why he kind
Speaker 5: of had a breaking point there?
Speaker 3: Did you?
Speaker 2: Because his whole, yes, family or something was a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of Yeah.
Speaker 5: Basically, his son, his son Zach, a couple of two
Speaker 5: years ago had to quit football. He had a heart
Speaker 5: heart failure basically, and they were talking about him maybe
Speaker 5: having to get a heart transplant, and he's doing better now.
Speaker 3: I don't know where it stands and what the future
Speaker 3: is with that. Uh.
Speaker 5: And then this year Ali his wife got diagnosed with
Speaker 5: breast cancer and he's on the road all year.
Speaker 3: Obviously his dog died.
Speaker 5: Like it was kind of like a like Ryan Day
Speaker 5: and Chip Kelly like kept Zach around and almost had
Speaker 5: him be as like a ga and really helping around
Speaker 5: the team and treated him well. And it was like
Speaker 5: just to see him with his wife in the booth
Speaker 5: next to him watching the game, and to see Zach
Speaker 5: getting a and it was just kind of he just
Speaker 5: kind of everything is kind of a kind of a release.
Speaker 5: So I like it. It was a hard thing to watch,
Speaker 5: I think for a lot of people, but there was
Speaker 5: a little bit more to it them just him being, oh,
Speaker 5: I'll have my alma mater won the national championship.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm happy.
Speaker 5: And it was funny because uh, he did this hit
Speaker 5: with McAfee yesterday and and Patty even said that a
Speaker 5: J Hawk was getting tiery as a former player, former
Speaker 5: captain of Ohias State watching last Date win. So there
Speaker 5: there is a little something to seeing a team that
Speaker 5: you were captain for and being being around so much win.
Speaker 5: I don't know anything about that because I don't think
Speaker 5: any of my teams have won anything. Yankee Yankees World
Speaker 5: Series over the Phillies I think was the last thing
Speaker 5: that any of my teams won. It came close with
Speaker 5: the Islanders when they lost that Game seven in Tampa
Speaker 5: a few years ago on a conference final and a
Speaker 5: shorthanded goal. Only short handed goal. The Islands well out
Speaker 5: all year. So yeah, I'm if your room for a
Speaker 5: winning team that you don't want, I'm certainly not not
Speaker 5: your fan.
Speaker 1: I got all. I got emotional last week and they
Speaker 1: won a Divisional round game.
Speaker 2: If they won the Super Bowl, you'll be bawling.
Speaker 5: Like Charlie.
Speaker 2: Tis.
Speaker 1: But to this point because right like my mom passed
Speaker 1: away and then the miracle pass against the Bears, my
Speaker 1: dad and I used to go.
Speaker 2: To the games.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's more than just the game itself.
Speaker 2: So you know, if the Steelers win and I get
Speaker 2: free parking, sometimes I shed a tear if I get
Speaker 2: the free it's emotional.
Speaker 3: What if it's only forty dollars parking as opposed to
Speaker 3: eighty dollars.
Speaker 2: Parking No, that's not as big a deal. You got
Speaker 2: to go. It's one hundred dollars for the valet. That's
Speaker 2: when start crying.
Speaker 1: Okay, Are we allowed to let people go on about
Speaker 1: their way for the rest of the day?
Speaker 3: Now done? Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Chris Filicka everybody at Chris Filica on Twitter. F A
Speaker 1: L L I C A Big noon Saturdays of course
Speaker 1: during college football season, the Bear Betts Podcast, which he
Speaker 1: does with Jeff Schwartz, with Will Hill, with Sammy p
Speaker 1: pro and college football. What do you do after football season?
Speaker 1: You do other sports?
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll be well, we'll probably take a little bit,
Speaker 5: a little bit of tom off after the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: That will be the annual Turks and Keikos vacation.
Speaker 5: But well, yeah, we'll be back for March Madness for sure,
Speaker 5: maybe a little little Master's preview the Kentucky Derby, and
Speaker 5: then before you know what, will be previewing not college
Speaker 5: football again.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'll miss you in Turks Love Turks, Will.
Speaker 3: Hill Miss You and Passion stallasturb song.
Speaker 1: Oh uh not the Will Hill for Will should have
Speaker 1: Bet Moore's the name of his podcast, check it out.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: And then Todd wished to have at t Wishnev, the
Speaker 1: star of the Showtime docu series Action, Accepting your college
Speaker 1: basketball inquiries as we speak.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, I'm starting to win again. Thankfully hopefully
Speaker 2: we can.
Speaker 3: Ye will.
Speaker 1: Oh you can't hold all that now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know you and I got some Uh.
Speaker 4: Well, it's funny because I bet this stuff every night,
Speaker 4: like the totals and stuff. But I've tars like diving
Speaker 4: into these teams. You know, a team I was just
Speaker 4: looking over like I was looking for a sleeper. Saint
Speaker 4: John's at forty to one is interesting, but I don't
Speaker 4: shoot free throw as well.
Speaker 2: I don't play transition D.
Speaker 4: But get Patino team at forty to one is at
Speaker 4: least intriguing.
Speaker 2: I like Michigan State and I like Michigan too, but
Speaker 2: I like Michigan State even more.
Speaker 5: I used a free bet on Michigan the other day.
Speaker 5: I think it was like thirty to one.
Speaker 4: I didn't realize they got that from Yale from the
Speaker 4: tournament last year. Wolf is it Danny Wolf?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, he's like a seven foot point card and
Speaker 2: they have like eight thousand guys shoot threes. Every single
Speaker 2: guy shoots three as well.
Speaker 4: He's a good coach. That's the that's the old Fau coach.
Speaker 2: It's me. Was on next week.
Speaker 1: Next week on this podcast, the fourteenth annual Vegas Lifestyle Podcast.
Speaker 1: You believe I've been doing this podcast for fourteen years
Speaker 1: betting dork before being in the book. So the Vegas Lifestyle.
Speaker 2: There's going to be a cutout during the show for
Speaker 2: like hotspots in Fairfield and uh, you know where to
Speaker 2: you know, meet people in Fairfield. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: say who you might meet.
Speaker 1: But wait a minute, but you you two aren't on
Speaker 1: the Vegas Lifestyle, right, you guys beg out of the
Speaker 1: Vegas Lifestyle one. No, no, no, they don't want to
Speaker 1: be on. They don't want to be on. It's a
Speaker 1: Vegas lifestyle with Meltzer like Seltzer, Mark Meltzer and Steve Fezick,
Speaker 1: who will tell you how to chintz the casinos out
Speaker 1: of every last dollar, not.
Speaker 2: Just Donald juice, anything anything that's not nailed down.
Speaker 5: What do you have the Luter gift car cards that
Speaker 5: he that he showed us the other day that he got.
Speaker 2: Ten star points. All you have to do is ten
Speaker 2: star points. If you walk in and you do this
Speaker 2: and you play that then you get fourteen points and
Speaker 2: it's very actionable.
Speaker 5: Good for him though many seriously seeing that they take
Speaker 5: advantage of us in more ways imaginable. Any anytime we
Speaker 5: can turn the tables. Good?
Speaker 1: Yeah, good, Maybe we'll get crack on. If Crack wants
Speaker 1: to come on and tell you how to the others.
Speaker 1: It doesn't, it'll be great. That's next week, fourteenth annual
Speaker 1: Vegas license.
Speaker 3: We need it, we need I need an update from
Speaker 3: crack on. Uh.
Speaker 5: Remember it was last year when one of his deations,
Speaker 5: his friends with the with what was that will real estate?
Speaker 4: He had some takes on real estate agents.
Speaker 5: Yeah, real estate where he had where there was a
Speaker 5: family friend and I don't know if the the kid
Speaker 5: had autism or something or yes.
Speaker 3: And the casinos took him in that wouldn't pay him
Speaker 3: or something. Need an update on that.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll get that from crack.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he wants to do the podcast
Speaker 1: or not, but.
Speaker 3: You'll know what talking about that, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, if not, if your crap will be on
Speaker 1: the numbering game.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow, Gilly, I'll just give you like a preview, Gilly, Well,
Speaker 2: I saw you know when I saw Lady Gaga. I
Speaker 2: was so unbelievable on her, you know, and Meltzer, what
Speaker 2: do you think? Oh well she was so not the show,
Speaker 2: so not the show. By the way, we got a
Speaker 2: little feisty last year.
Speaker 4: And it was fun to listen to as a listener,
Speaker 4: But got a little feisty because I think Fez was
Speaker 4: trying to like get Meltzer, like comply with Hey, if
Speaker 4: you do this, you can get different bets, and Meltzer
Speaker 4: wanted nothing to do with you have to go back
Speaker 4: and listen.
Speaker 2: Last year I got a little oh yeah, is that strong?
Speaker 1: But is that what barti?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 5: Was Lombardy wish the dinsic type contents?
Speaker 1: No, look I wish No, it was not part of
Speaker 1: that one that was Lombardi.
Speaker 2: Uh, bat Brown, you better remind Meltzer. Remind Meltzer to
Speaker 2: tell about the that that what's that guacam mole that
Speaker 2: that we got at that place by the ball one
Speaker 2: of those quacam is unbelievable. What were you saying? What
Speaker 2: were you saying Gil about that? Is that? Why something?
Speaker 2: Then you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because when I said, oh, it's Vegas lifestyle next week,
Speaker 1: he goes, I don't think Meltzer likes me, so yeah,
Speaker 1: now you've explained it to me. I was like, he doesn't,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Yeah, all right, I'm out
Speaker 1: of here.
Speaker 2: Let's go see you guys.
Speaker 1: Well done, gentlemen, Thank you guys, thanks for listening. Good
Speaker 1: luck with all your bets.
Speaker 2: Championship weekend in the National