WEBVTT - HWTB_12_10.mp3 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:05.120 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:06.720 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:18.079 Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sidelines. 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:22.320 This he is Hanging with the Boys, presented by wing 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:25.200 Stuff Where Flavor gets its wings. 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:30.360 Now your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:31.560 Shannon Gross. 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:40.159 Shooting Tuesday, not victory Tuesday. 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:44.279 What a kick in the junk man. Looking live at 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:47.920 Tostitos Championship Plaza, it looks as sad as we do today. 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:49.440 There's nobody out there. 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:50.840 It's kind of dark. 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:54.280 Outside Fort Senate at the Star in Frisco, Texas. 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:54.720 Well. 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:58.360 At least winners got here. It's forty nine degrees feels 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:01.000 like thirty three. The highest fifty one. The low is 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:02.760 thirty seven. 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:06.280 He is Nate, This is Kurt that is shedding in 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:08.720 the back is Chris. I am Salt and Pepper Poppy. 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.920 Together we make Hanging with the Boys just sports talk equivalent. 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:13.240 The brill people be. 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:19.960 Brought to you each and every day by Wingstop where 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:23.880 flavor gets its wing? When's the next when's the next 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:24.480 flavor drop? 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:29.640 Chris, I gotta look into that, Okay, soon though, huh 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:30.400 before Christmas? 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:31.760 I hope it is not the nineteen. 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:38.880 Good news mom bought the stuff to make Simon rolls 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:47.600 becoming picture music on that. No matter what you see there. 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:52.440 But man, lots to talk about, Jesse, this, this is 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:54.960 gonna be a show for you. We got to talk 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.360 special teams with all the special got talk, so we'll 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:00.080 get into that in a minute. Kurt, how are you 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:00.640 you good? 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:01.040 Good? 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:01.400 Good? 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.200 Jesse good? 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:04.760 Nate? 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:06.120 I like your fit too, How are you? 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:06.840 Yeah? I'm great? 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:07.040 Man? 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:09.000 How cold was it out there? 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:13.079 It was just pretty pretty breezy? Yeah it waseze, babe, boy, 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:15.200 I'm good, I'm good. We rat where we need to 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.160 be right now. Not on the field. 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:22.400 Your boy, your boy helpless ain't help us yesterday? 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:24.200 Who is my boy? You? 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:26.840 You out like a game like yesterday. I don't know 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.679 what side of the fencer you want. Are you salivating 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:35.480 Joe Burrow or are you upset over your boy? I'm 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:39.160 just coach from Pittsburgh of destructstruck. 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.919 He got to see some some fresh blood on the 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:45.000 offensive line. You have to see the young guys play, 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:48.000 which probably soon we'll get to see a lot more 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:51.840 of the young guys playing but initial thoughts. Kurt just 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.559 on the game. It was close, by the way. Congratulations 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.239 to the Voice of Reason, the only person on the 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.400 show to pick the being to win. He had the 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:03.240 Bengals thirty three Cowboys. 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.600 I don't want to all the time. Yeah, I don't 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:05.960 want to. 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:09.880 Jesse Holly special teams guru that will break. 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:12.119 Down what you call it didn't come true though. 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:16.000 It did not. Gessei has more than fifty yards and 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.200 six or more catches. Yea, so he did not. 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:21.960 He did not. He had three for twenty four, but 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:23.119 he didn't need to. 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.000 Chase said, hold my beard, I got you. I got 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:26.399 your back. 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:29.080 B Yeah, I got more than what I got. I 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:30.960 got what you want. I got what you needed. 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:33.440 It was fun to watch. If you're a Bengals fan, 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:36.800 you know the roof was open, it was beautiful. The 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.200 Simpsons simulcast was going on. 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:40.520 Check I didn't. 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:42.560 I turned it off for about five minutes. I heard. 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:43.280 It wasn't terrible. 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:44.760 No, it was actually better than I thought. 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:46.080 Yeah, it was prisile. 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:49.080 I mean the technology was getting an actual game playing 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:53.720 and leads to Simpson run for the Homer. 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:57.280 Intercepted bar Yeah, it was really cool, but Kurt initial 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:58.400 thoughts kick us off. 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.920 Well, it was disappointing for sure. I mean, you hate 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:04.120 to lose close when the game you had a chance 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:09.040 to win so close. No, it's so close. So yeah, 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.240 but you know, besides that, the injuries on top of 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.080 that made it even even worse. 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:18.640 Thoughts and thoughts definitely go out to overshell Man talking 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:22.000 about it just hurt. That hurt my soul. Yeah, especially 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.479 when you heard this morning that it might trickle over 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:26.760 into next year. 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:30.919 So yeah, I just Mozzie screwed us again. 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.280 Hell, I don't say that. I don't say that. 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.080 Well, I mean, and it just seems, you know, like 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.360 the final nail and whatever. 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:43.880 Hopes there were. 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:46.279 Mathematically you're still alive. 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:46.640 Still alive. 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:52.920 But you know, yeah, what about you, Nate Overall thoughts, 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:57.040 I'm good man, all right, Yes, you know. 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:58.960 What side of the fence he's on. Then I guess. 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:01.279 It's in the past. 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:08.239 You know, good teams find different ways to win football. 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.960 Get look at Kansas City, look at Detroit, look at Philadelphia. 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:16.640 Bad teams find different ways to lose games. And I 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:21.200 think you saw, you know, look at Carolina, look at 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.520 the Bengals, and they're losing streak and look at the Cowboys. 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:29.560 It's it's it's a consistent pattern of the comedy of 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:33.600 eerrors that happened throughout a game, whether it be from 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.560 the sideline, from coaching, whether it be on the field, 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:41.599 from players. You just see those things continue to pop 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.279 up in moments where you need guys to be at 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.280 their best. Sometimes you just need guys to do simple 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:51.760 things and they they they don't and your team loses 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.800 because of it. And there are I mean when you 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.919 go back and you watch this game. Even when I 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:00.000 got in late last night from doing my post game show, 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.680 couldn't sleep, just you know, adrenaline is going. You're just up, 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:05.719 you know, trying to calm your mind. And I start 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.479 watching some of the game back last night, and you 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.560 just start seeing, man like this was this, this, this, this, 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:16.400 and and no one thing is you can say loses 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.400 games for you, but there are definite things where you 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:21.400 look at and you go, this is what happens to 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:27.279 bad football teams. Yeah, so such as life. In the 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.760 words of the great Bill Parcells, you are what's your 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:32.320 record says you are? 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:33.480 You are tough? 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:33.880 One man? 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:34.640 What about you? 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:36.159 I mean. 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.680 This dude, you see his dress? Tell you about it. 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:42.680 He's ready to go up in the Marcasall Hills and 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.080 hide Mexico. 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:46.039 What I read. 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:51.240 I foreshadowed this season by booking my trip, and you know, 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.000 but I do that every year. I mean, it was hard, 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:57.520 It was it was heartbreaking. The injuries were tough, and 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:03.760 for the first time this year, I you could feel 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:07.360 this meant something to the guys. You know, you see 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.880 Michael on the sideline and at first when when you know, 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:13.360 the special teams play happened, and Mike's over there waving 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.280 his hands and he's like, come on, manute, like you know, 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.120 and I'm like, I was kind of upset because I 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.920 was like, he's he's basically calling his teammate out on 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.920 national TV without saying anything about it. But then the 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.760 game ended and he went straight to the locker. He 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.360 wasn't swapping jerseys, he wasn't out there yucking it up, 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:32.760 and I was like, you know what, good showing some 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:37.480 like showing some emotion, pissed off like mad. You know, 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:41.040 maybe this is the spark that like turns him into 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:44.080 a dog, you know, because we always talk about he'll 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:45.720 go on his pocket and we'll see tonight if he 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:49.040 has his podcast what he says, But this meant something 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:52.520 to him. And it's weird because they're basically out of 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:55.360 the playoffs. There was almost no hope. But they were 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:57.000 pissed last night. They were upset. 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:00.680 It was like, you know, there's the worst losses, maybe 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:03.120 worse than the last year's playoff, you know, and this one, 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.160 that's what he said. He said, it maybe felt worse 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:06.160 than last year's playoff. 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:09.600 Long he got a concussion, So I mean, you gotta 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:13.160 he gotta check that man. For there's three losses this 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.360 season that was worse than what happened last year. 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:19.080 I think I wondered if it was more like and 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.240 those losses, they are so blown out by the fourth quarter, 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.119 they've already kind of gone to the emotions of this sucked. 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:27.480 They had dealt with it, Yeah, when they had dealt 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:27.720 with it. 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:29.720 Were this one was still kind of fresh and raw. 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:31.120 They went right in the long and you. 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:32.960 And you it was right there and they probably have 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.840 heard about Joe Burrow all week long and Jamar Chase 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:37.240 and they had. 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.880 Him beat and then they had him beat. 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.959 Well you could have I mean, you had a chance 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:45.040 to beat him, you know, I mean, you had a chance. 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.560 To Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow did what they wanted. Yeah, 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.280 throughout that game. I mean, Joe Burrow was over three 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:52.679 hundred yards passing. It was looking he looked great. I mean, 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:56.320 Michael was partners of Michael was upset. Mike had a 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:58.920 really good game. He had nine pressures, the only second 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:00.840 time in his career where he had at least nine 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:05.319 pressures and no sacks. He was chasing Joe Burrow all 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:09.600 day long and could not get to him like that. 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:11.960 That's part of the frustration as well, frien him. He's like, man, 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:15.640 I'm out here humping and working my tail off to 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.480 try to get to this joker, and I can't get 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:22.560 to him. And then on the back end he's completing passes. 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:26.800 So it's like I'm trying, We're trying. I'm definitely trying, 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:30.520 and we I'm unsuccessful, and then I'm getting no help 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:34.720 on the back end because he's throwing dots to Jamar Chase. 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:36.520 I mean, when you go fourteen for one to seventy 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:38.360 seven to two touchdowns. 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:46.200 You know, yeah, he did it so smooth. He did 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.960 it so smooth that one seventy seven and the way 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:54.200 that Joe Burrows would let Michael just think he got it. 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.080 I'm like a mat at all. I remember one time 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.800 Michael was coming from the right side. He waited till 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:03.000 it last second. Man, it just duck. These shoulders stepped up. 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.520 I don't say to myself that right there is priceless 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:11.240 fellas you would die, not nover manter, that's too strong 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:14.520 word you would as a coach to be at the 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.920 end of a game. Both coaches sitting over there. All 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:21.360 we need is one play and Jesse's gonna break this 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:25.200 play down some time during our show. And uh, but 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:28.400 you can't tell me. I don't be You don't been 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:30.959 in these game with brother. Who gonna make this play? 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:35.120 One with the dummy or the smart and who's gonna 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.800 but who's gonna make this play? You couldn't tell me. 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:45.000 You you you can go. This game makes you tired 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:49.240 because it's the roller coaster of emotions. Is so great. 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:55.560 And regardless of what you think about uh uh, Cincinnati's defense, 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.920 they were playing. They were playing tough. Regardless of what 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:03.120 you thought about our offense. They was hanging in there, 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.160 they was they was, they was moving the ball down 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:07.520 the field, they were sputtering out, They was making some 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:11.080 bad plays coaches and players, but to get on with 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:14.880 a minute or two left and this thing twenty twenty, 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:19.280 and you can make the difference. You can make the difference. 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:22.480 And that is where me and Jessic gonna always be 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:27.440 on the same page. When my Joel's it is better 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:28.160 than your Joe. 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:37.920 Come on man, literally yes, yes, yeah, tougher man, tough, 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:41.040 tough to I mean, I don't know. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:45.360 If like that was that game? 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:46.680 Do you need a cleansing? 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:51.040 Almost meant nothing, like, okay, you win it, so what 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:55.320 you won, you put three together, but it just it 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:56.960 was just so defeating. 0:11:56.720 --> 0:12:02.360 You know, to us only outside. Now I sit on 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:06.000 the outside. Now it means nothing. Those guys, it means 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:09.679 everything right there. Because they win that game last night. 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:13.199 That's three in a row. They're still believing. The hope 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.000 is still there, the joy in going out and playing 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.280 again is still there. And now you start looking around, 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:22.200 you like, hold on, we can get four. It gets Carolina, 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.680 you know, then maybe a fifth forgets and then the 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:28.160 last two we'll we'll see how that goes and maybe 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.720 we get some help. Maybe they you know, Philadelphia might 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.719 be imploding again. What they got going on with their 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:37.240 receiver and and and and uh and quarterback and what 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:39.880 some other guys are saying about it. So that still 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:43.400 gives you hope. And the one thing I do want 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.000 to I want to say before we go to break 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:51.480 because we we we laughingly joke about it, Fans talk 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:56.199 about it and push forward and you know they got 0:12:56.480 --> 0:13:01.959 tank websites and all that kind of sh stuff. And 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:05.120 another thing that Nate and I will always agree on. 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.480 You start talking about tanking man, and you know when 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:14.200 it doesn't matter, what does it matter? Dumarron overshow might might? 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:18.959 We don't know what his injury is. He can probably 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:22.480 never play football again. You think he's thinking about tanking 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:25.559 a game. And that's what we're talking about from a 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:29.079 player's perspective, is you are playing in a one hundred 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:33.359 percent hurt business. Now. I hope and I pray like legitimately. 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:37.440 I ain't just talking like I legitimately prayed that for him, 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.880 and I hope that this young man is able to 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.480 come back from what this injury is. But when you 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:48.120 start talking about ligaments and and and stuff like that, 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:52.200 that's that's that's serious. That ain't just that we go 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.440 back in there. We just you know, we fix the ACL. 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.680 You know doctor Cooper can do that in his sleep, right, Like, 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.440 oh yeah, ACL, But we'll do that. When you start 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:03.079 talking about ligaments, now you start needing things to refire 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.920 and rejuvenate and those things get working again. That's a 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:10.640 fifty to fifty crapshoot. That's not guaranteed when they go 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.640 in there that they're gonna just all work back together 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:15.720 as one and everything's gonna be hunky dory and we're 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:19.280 gonna get out of here. So when people talk about, oh, tank, tank, tank, 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:21.840 lose game, lose game, lose games, what does it matter? 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:25.480 What does it matter? That's why it matters. That's why 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.040 guys go out there each and every week because and 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.960 you know why it was so devastating to guys like Micah, 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:35.680 to guys like Kendricks and other folks. While that locker 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:39.760 room seems so dim and I said this earlier. You 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:41.520 take a guy like Eric Kendricks who's been in this 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:46.320 league for ten years. What sometimes happens is that you 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:51.640 lose the joy of football. It becomes a job, and 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.760 you sometimes are searching and trying to find that youth 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.520 full joy that you once had when you were a 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:01.040 first year guy, when you or a second year god 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:05.840 that dies at times, not for everybody, but a lot 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:11.160 of times, that joy dies and you it becomes work. 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:15.680 And then you insert a guy like Demarvin Overshown who 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:20.600 had that youthful joy, who played with that youthful fun spirit, 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:24.600 who gave you the good feeling again. And when you're 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.080 a veteran guy like that, and I'll put Mike in 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:28.800 that mixture. He's been around for a little bit. And 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.840 then because when you're losing and things aren't going right 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:35.200 like it makes it difficult to come to work. And 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.880 then you get around a guy like like like Themarian 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:42.040 and you go, it's fun again. That's what That's what 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:45.240 it means. That's what it means, not all. You know, 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:48.040 you get involved with the business and people start telling 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:49.720 you when trying to you know, tell you what you're 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:51.320 worth and what you're not worth, and all the other 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:55.200 kind of stuff that kills the joy. That that kills 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:57.760 the joy from it all. And then you're able to 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.680 get back in the situation from God that you see 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.240 in that locker room and going, that's the joy that 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.080 I need to give back to. You told me about 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.960 two months ago about a situation and you said, you said, Jesse, 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:09.680 you're one of the most positive people that I know, 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.400 but this situation it's tearing you down. 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:12.680 Man. 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:16.000 And I went home with that and I said, you're right, 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:20.040 that won't that. I cannot give that thing any more 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:23.120 of my positive Villa can't take my joy. And you 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:26.360 insert a guy liked Maarian and he goes he's he's 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:30.120 inserted joy. He's giving joy back to football when he 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:31.600 goes out there in the practice field and he's running 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:34.960 around and he's enthusiastic and he's yelling and he's that's 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:36.960 why guys felt that way about him last night. So 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.640 when you're thinking about and talking about tanking and you 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.600 hear Nate on myself say things Abody like I don't 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:46.400 know about that, it's because you never know. In this business, 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.480 that's one hundred hurt. I've said this before and I'll 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:54.560 say it again. Sometimes in this game it takes from 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.760 you more than you're willing to give, and you don't 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:01.080 have a say so winning and Marvin will be dealing 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:05.400 with this second ACL injury plus whatever the other thing 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.399 that has to happen with that. It's a it's a 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:07.920 tough deal. 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:13.280 Was it the same leg. All right, let's take our 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.600 first break. 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We just whatever we talk about, we 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:45.200 talk about. If he felt bad. 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:48.199 We'll bring that infection you got next week. Do what 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:49.560 an infection you telling us? 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:51.720 About oh yeah, yeah, that can wait. It's not that 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:57.320 imortant if he felt if he felt bad for uh 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:01.239 A warrior, A warrior, thank you for the help, and 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:07.720 he said absolutely not. So one walk us through what happened, 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:10.360 because we there's been a lot of talk about what 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:13.000 Jerry said right after the game about you know, we 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:14.960 would like to have that one back, and you know, 0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:19.840