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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sidelines.

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Speaker 3: This he is Hanging with the Boys, presented by wing

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Speaker 3: Stuff Where Flavor gets its wings.

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Speaker 4: Now your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and

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Speaker 4: Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 5: Shooting Tuesday, not victory Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: What a kick in the junk man. Looking live at

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Speaker 4: Tostitos Championship Plaza, it looks as sad as we do today.

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Speaker 4: There's nobody out there.

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Speaker 6: It's kind of dark.

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Speaker 4: Outside Fort Senate at the Star in Frisco, Texas.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 4: At least winners got here. It's forty nine degrees feels

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Speaker 4: like thirty three. The highest fifty one. The low is

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Speaker 4: thirty seven.

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Speaker 7: He is Nate, This is Kurt that is shedding in

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Speaker 7: the back is Chris. I am Salt and Pepper Poppy.

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Speaker 7: Together we make Hanging with the Boys just sports talk equivalent.

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Speaker 7: The brill people be.

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Speaker 4: Brought to you each and every day by Wingstop where

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Speaker 4: flavor gets its wing? When's the next when's the next

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Speaker 4: flavor drop?

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Speaker 3: Chris, I gotta look into that, Okay, soon though, huh

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Speaker 3: before Christmas?

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Speaker 6: I hope it is not the nineteen.

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Speaker 4: Good news mom bought the stuff to make Simon rolls

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Speaker 4: becoming picture music on that. No matter what you see there.

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Speaker 4: But man, lots to talk about, Jesse, this, this is

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Speaker 4: gonna be a show for you. We got to talk

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Speaker 4: special teams with all the special got talk, so we'll

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Speaker 4: get into that in a minute. Kurt, how are you

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Speaker 4: you good?

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Speaker 8: Good?

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Speaker 6: Good?

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Speaker 4: Jesse good?

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Speaker 1: Nate?

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Speaker 4: I like your fit too, How are you?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I'm great?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 4: How cold was it out there?

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Speaker 6: It was just pretty pretty breezy? Yeah it waseze, babe, boy,

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Speaker 6: I'm good, I'm good. We rat where we need to

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Speaker 6: be right now. Not on the field.

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Speaker 7: Your boy, your boy helpless ain't help us yesterday?

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Speaker 6: Who is my boy? You?

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Speaker 7: You out like a game like yesterday. I don't know

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Speaker 7: what side of the fencer you want. Are you salivating

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Speaker 7: Joe Burrow or are you upset over your boy? I'm

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Speaker 7: just coach from Pittsburgh of destructstruck.

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Speaker 4: He got to see some some fresh blood on the

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Speaker 4: offensive line. You have to see the young guys play,

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Speaker 4: which probably soon we'll get to see a lot more

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Speaker 4: of the young guys playing but initial thoughts. Kurt just

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Speaker 4: on the game. It was close, by the way. Congratulations

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Speaker 4: to the Voice of Reason, the only person on the

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Speaker 4: show to pick the being to win. He had the

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Speaker 4: Bengals thirty three Cowboys.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to all the time. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 7: want to.

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Speaker 4: Jesse Holly special teams guru that will break.

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Speaker 7: Down what you call it didn't come true though.

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Speaker 4: It did not. Gessei has more than fifty yards and

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Speaker 4: six or more catches. Yea, so he did not.

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Speaker 7: He did not. He had three for twenty four, but

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Speaker 7: he didn't need to.

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Speaker 4: Chase said, hold my beard, I got you. I got

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Speaker 4: your back.

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Speaker 7: B Yeah, I got more than what I got. I

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Speaker 7: got what you want. I got what you needed.

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Speaker 4: It was fun to watch. If you're a Bengals fan,

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Speaker 4: you know the roof was open, it was beautiful. The

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Speaker 4: Simpsons simulcast was going on.

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Speaker 7: Check I didn't.

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Speaker 8: I turned it off for about five minutes. I heard.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't terrible.

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Speaker 8: No, it was actually better than I thought.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was prisile.

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Speaker 9: I mean the technology was getting an actual game playing

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Speaker 9: and leads to Simpson run for the Homer.

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Speaker 4: Intercepted bar Yeah, it was really cool, but Kurt initial

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Speaker 4: thoughts kick us off.

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Speaker 9: Well, it was disappointing for sure. I mean, you hate

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Speaker 9: to lose close when the game you had a chance

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Speaker 9: to win so close. No, it's so close. So yeah,

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Speaker 9: but you know, besides that, the injuries on top of

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Speaker 4: Thoughts and thoughts definitely go out to overshell Man talking

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Speaker 4: about it just hurt. That hurt my soul. Yeah, especially

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Speaker 4: when you heard this morning that it might trickle over

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Speaker 4: into next year.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, I just Mozzie screwed us again.

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Speaker 6: Hell, I don't say that. I don't say that.

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean, and it just seems, you know, like

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Speaker 9: the final nail and whatever.

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Speaker 7: Hopes there were.

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Speaker 4: Mathematically you're still alive.

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Speaker 8: Still alive.

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Speaker 5: But you know, yeah, what about you, Nate Overall thoughts,

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Speaker 5: I'm good man, all right, Yes, you know.

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Speaker 8: What side of the fence he's on. Then I guess.

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Speaker 4: It's in the past.

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Speaker 7: You know, good teams find different ways to win football.

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Speaker 7: Get look at Kansas City, look at Detroit, look at Philadelphia.

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Speaker 7: Bad teams find different ways to lose games. And I

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Speaker 7: think you saw, you know, look at Carolina, look at

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Speaker 7: the Bengals, and they're losing streak and look at the Cowboys.

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Speaker 7: It's it's it's a consistent pattern of the comedy of

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Speaker 7: eerrors that happened throughout a game, whether it be from

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Speaker 7: from players. You just see those things continue to pop

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Speaker 7: up in moments where you need guys to be at

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Speaker 7: their best. Sometimes you just need guys to do simple

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Speaker 7: things and they they they don't and your team loses

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Speaker 7: because of it. And there are I mean when you

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Speaker 7: couldn't sleep, just you know, adrenaline is going. You're just up,

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Speaker 7: watching some of the game back last night, and you

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Speaker 7: just start seeing, man like this was this, this, this, this,

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Speaker 7: look at and you go, this is what happens to

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Speaker 7: bad football teams. Yeah, so such as life. In the

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Speaker 7: words of the great Bill Parcells, you are what's your

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Speaker 6: You are tough?

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Speaker 7: One man?

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Speaker 8: What about you?

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Speaker 7: I mean.

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Speaker 6: This dude, you see his dress? Tell you about it.

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Speaker 6: He's ready to go up in the Marcasall Hills and

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Speaker 6: hide Mexico.

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Speaker 7: What I read.

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Speaker 4: I foreshadowed this season by booking my trip, and you know,

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Speaker 4: but I do that every year. I mean, it was hard,

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Speaker 4: for the first time this year, I you could feel

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, I was kind of upset because I

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Speaker 4: maybe this is the spark that like turns him into

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Speaker 4: to him. And it's weird because they're basically out of

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Speaker 9: It was like, you know, there's the worst losses, maybe

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Speaker 9: worse than the last year's playoff, you know, and this one,

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Speaker 9: that's what he said. He said, it maybe felt worse

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Speaker 7: Long he got a concussion, So I mean, you gotta

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Speaker 7: he gotta check that man. For there's three losses this

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Speaker 9: I think I wondered if it was more like and

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Speaker 4: They had dealt with it, Yeah, when they had dealt

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Speaker 8: Were this one was still kind of fresh and raw.

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Speaker 8: They went right in the long and you.

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Speaker 4: And you it was right there and they probably have

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Speaker 4: heard about Joe Burrow all week long and Jamar Chase

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Speaker 7: Him beat and then they had him beat.

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Speaker 4: Well you could have I mean, you had a chance

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Speaker 7: To Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow did what they wanted. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: throughout that game. I mean, Joe Burrow was over three

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Speaker 7: Michael was partners of Michael was upset. Mike had a

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Speaker 7: really good game. He had nine pressures, the only second

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Speaker 7: That's part of the frustration as well, frien him. He's like, man,

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Speaker 7: I'm out here humping and working my tail off to

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Speaker 7: So it's like I'm trying, We're trying. I'm definitely trying,

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Speaker 7: on the back end because he's throwing dots to Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 7: I mean, when you go fourteen for one to seventy

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Speaker 6: You know, yeah, he did it so smooth. He did

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Speaker 6: it so smooth that one seventy seven and the way

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Speaker 6: I'm like a mat at all. I remember one time

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Speaker 6: Michael was coming from the right side. He waited till

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Speaker 6: it last second. Man, it just duck. These shoulders stepped up.

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Speaker 6: I don't say to myself that right there is priceless

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Speaker 6: fellas you would die, not nover manter, that's too strong

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Speaker 6: word you would as a coach to be at the

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Speaker 6: end of a game. Both coaches sitting over there. All

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Speaker 6: we need is one play and Jesse's gonna break this

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Speaker 6: play down some time during our show. And uh, but

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Speaker 6: you can't tell me. I don't be You don't been

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Speaker 6: in these game with brother. Who gonna make this play?

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Speaker 6: but who's gonna make this play? You couldn't tell me.

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Speaker 6: You you you can go. This game makes you tired

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Speaker 6: because it's the roller coaster of emotions. Is so great.

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Speaker 6: And regardless of what you think about uh uh, Cincinnati's defense,

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Speaker 7: that's where that's where Oorea is and Kemon Hall. You

441
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 7: see the other two guys to two off backers off

442
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 7: and inside on the punt return to vice means two

443
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 7: guys on one.

444
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 4: Guy guy grab him and try to assault.

445
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 7: It's basically assault and they let you just assault the

446
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 7: guy you know, all the way down the field. And

447
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 7: and so what ends up happening is you see them

448
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 7: do a little bit of a shift. But that's just

449
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 7: the numbers. When you start looking at the numbers, there's

450
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Speaker 7: enough guys for the Bengals to block whoever the Cowboys

451
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 7: were gonna send. There was no blitz happening. Once you

452
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 7: see the ball is snapped, you see them set up

453
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Speaker 7: a return. They're trying to get a return because at

454
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Speaker 7: the end of the day, they know indoors, Brandon Aubrey's

455
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 7: good for sixty five plus Like you, you kind of

456
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 7: have that in your back pocket, so we can get

457
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 7: any any bit of return because from where they were

458
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 7: punting from, you wasn't gonna really be able to flip

459
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 7: the field that much. Too successful plays. And now I'm

460
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 7: in field goal range. I can run this thing out.

461
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 7: Brandon Aubrey come in and kick the other game in

462
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 7: the field goal. Now what you saw was Nick Visual

463
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 7: who just flat out whooped the guard. The guard lunge

464
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Speaker 7: Nick Visual got around. Now this is me being nitpicky.

465
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Speaker 7: But when you start talking about the details within the game,

466
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Speaker 7: So Nick Visual whoops the guard and he's supposed to

467
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Speaker 7: continue on. But what you saw Nick do and this

468
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 7: is not me blaming Nick. I'm giving you the nitpicky

469
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Speaker 7: details of how you're supposed to block a punt. When

470
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 7: you watch the play Nick, hands are up and he

471
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 7: swipes down. Okay, what you're taught is if you have

472
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Speaker 7: the ability to block a punt, we don't want to

473
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Speaker 7: go hands up. We don't want to swipe down one.

474
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,719
Speaker 7: We might miss it. If our hands are apart, you

475
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 7: might miss it and kicks it right through your hands.

476
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Speaker 7: What's you're taught is like a diver, like think Michael

477
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 7: Phelps when he goes off of the platform. You're thinking

478
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 7: about this, right, Your hands are supposed to look like

479
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 7: this so that there is no space for that ball

480
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 7: to get through. My eyes down are on the foot

481
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Speaker 7: of the punter. I want to take the I want

482
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Speaker 7: to take the ball off the foot of the punter.

483
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 7: So when I come in. I don't want to come

484
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 7: swiping down because if I miss the punter, I want

485
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 7: to take the ball right off his foot because if

486
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 7: I get it, the double thug poo poo. Even if

487
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 7: I hit him doesn't matter. But if I don't get it,

488
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 7: his foot goes up. I go underneath him. No flag.

489
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 7: So what Nick did? He gets through, but you see

490
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 7: his hands are up and he swipes down. Now here's

491
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Speaker 7: also why it's important. If Nick comes in with the

492
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 7: diver hands right when he gets the ball, the ball

493
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 7: now goes this way, and it's behind the line of scrimmage.

494
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 7: So even if you try to get on it and

495
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 7: don't get on it, they don't get the ball back.

496
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 7: But Nick comes up, swipes down, ball goes off his fingertips,

497
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 7: and now the ball proceeds to go past the line

498
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 7: of scrimmage. But what it also did was when you

499
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 7: start talking about the way that that weird the ball

500
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,719
Speaker 7: was spinning, it was because it caught the fingertips of

501
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 7: Nick's hand. Now the second part about it. You're outside,

502
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Speaker 7: if you're a wall error in your keymon hall and

503
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 7: you're vising right, you hear the double thud. You hear it.

504
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 7: I've I've had a punt blocked on me fingertips. You

505
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,959
Speaker 7: hear it, you hear it. And then on top of that,

506
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 7: someone is probably yelling Peter, Peter, Peter, or poison, poison, poison.

507
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 7: You hope it's the guys who are able to see

508
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 7: the ball, mainly being Cavante Turpin. And you see Cavante

509
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 7: running up the field, and I'm hoping that he's yelling Peter, Peter, Peter, poison, poison, poison, either.

510
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 4: One, which means get the hell away from the get.

511
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 7: Away from the ball. You don't want to touch poison,

512
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 7: you don't want to touch the Peter, right, neither one

513
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 7: of them. That's the origin of Peter, Peter, Peter. And

514
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 7: so now if you watch it, Keemon Hall stops. Now

515
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 7: he and Oreate are vising they're together. He stops and

516
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 7: gets out the way Oi turns, and when you watch him,

517
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 7: the ball bounces side note oriate. If you want to

518
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 7: know how it's done, just go back and watch me

519
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 7: do it. And the Vikings game a couple of years ago,

520
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 7: a lot of years ago. And that's how you catch

521
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 7: a two bouncer and take it back a yards for

522
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 7: a touchdown. Now that's either way.

523
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 4: But you see, I always make the show about myself.

524
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 7: You gave me the you gave me the one. I

525
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 7: brought it up. So you see O warreate. And this

526
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 7: is where this is where you have to understand.

527
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 6: Dude.

528
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 7: When you hit balichex, say do your job. I don't

529
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 7: need you to be the hero here. What we now

530
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 7: need is for that ball to stay hours. But a

531
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 7: warrior looks at the ball and you see him get

532
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 7: into a curt your baseball guy. He gets it to

533
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 7: that shortstop stands and he's he's ready to kind of

534
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 7: attack that ball like you're gonna catch it and throw it.

535
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 7: Throw a guy out at first right home. And you

536
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 7: see him looking at the ball and he's getting ready

537
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 7: to attack it. And the ball bounces and the second bounce,

538
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 7: remember that weird spin I was telling you about. On

539
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 7: the second bounce, he caught the weird looking spin and

540
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 7: he thought it was gonna cradle right into his gut.

541
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 7: Instead it bounced and took the weird spin and it

542
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 7: went off his He was trying to like scoop it

543
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 7: and it went off his his arm, shoulder, whatever it was,

544
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 7: and they were able to get the ball back. Here's

545
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 7: another funny thing. The guy that Nick visual beat, he

546
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 7: lost his job and got it back in ten seconds.

547
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 7: The guard that Nick vigiill beat number forty five was

548
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 7: actually the same guy who recovered the ball after a

549
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 7: Warria touched it. So and people are gonna say, well,

550
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 7: Bone should have said to him, don't do No, that's

551
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 7: not a conversation they're having about that, because Bones is like,

552
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 7: we got a return set up, so I don't have

553
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 7: to tell y'all, hey say off the punter. No, da

554
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 7: da a Warea is a six year guy, been in

555
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 7: this league. And I want people to understand this as well,

556
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 7: because people say, well, he just got brought up and

557
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 7: he only paid X amount of snaps. On special teams,

558
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you right now. Unless you are unless

559
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 7: you are Dak Prescott, unless you are whoever like, unless

560
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 7: you're CD Lamb and sometimes even Cede Lamb are in

561
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 7: these special teams meetings. If the meeting consists of hands teams,

562
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 7: if the meeting consists of if you have some pump

563
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 7: return or kickoff return responsibilities, you're in these special team meetings. Now,

564
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 7: those days differ from each one. But a Warria is

565
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 7: a guy who you don't have the privilege of not

566
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 7: being these meetings, because even if you're on the practice squad,

567
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 7: you're in these specialties meetings because you're learning what the

568
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 7: other team is going to be doing so that when

569
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 7: you go out to the practice field and you're on

570
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 7: the scout squad, you're giving the starting squad the best look.

571
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 7: So you've heard all of these things being talked about

572
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 7: throughout the meetings, about when the ball goes past the

573
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 7: line of scrimmage and I touch it, you know all

574
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 7: these things, and to be honest, they always tell the

575
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 7: gunners that, hey, don't get away from the ball, Like,

576
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 7: if we wanted you to return the ball, we would

577
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 7: have made you the returner if we block it behind

578
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 7: the line of scrimmage. Yes, scoop and score. So he's

579
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 7: heard the messages before in training camp, in OTA's and

580
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 7: mini camps, and even at some point in time during

581
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 7: the season. So this wasn't one of the bones fossil

582
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 7: kind of you know, gaffs that he has put out

583
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 7: this year. This was a player looking at a moment

584
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 7: and saying I could be the hero, and instead of

585
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 7: him being the hero, he now became the villain and

586
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 7: a loss for the Cowboys because all he had to

587
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 7: do was get out the way, and he got more

588
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 7: than enough time to get out the way, and he

589
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 7: tried to go make a play and he screwed it up.

590
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 4: Should have listened to ludicrous move.

591
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 9: Get out the way, and you explained it better. That

592
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 9: was my question, because I've read somewhere that this was

593
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 9: his although he probably had special teams experience in past,

594
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 9: this was his first game on the punt return come

595
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 9: out in the meaning and I thought, you know, if

596
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 9: you're you know, your back to the game or whatever,

597
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 9: and you just turn around and it's you and the ball.

598
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 9: I mean he had space, Yeah, but it isn't that

599
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 9: the natural I guess that's the difference between doing it

600
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 9: right wrong professional. Your natural reaction is there's the ball, your.

601
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 7: National action to get out the way, like you've been talking,

602
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 7: that's the natural reaction. That's the natural reaction. You get

603
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 7: out the way.

604
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 4: So this wasn't not knowing the rules.

605
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 7: This was just this was a guy trying to This

606
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 7: was a guy trying to make a play. This was

607
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 7: a guy trying to make a play in a tight game,

608
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 7: and he cost you. It cost you because when you

609
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 7: go back and you watch the play, and I know

610
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 7: Nate has his iPad, we can pull a play up.

611
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 7: But when you go back and you watch the play,

612
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 7: you see him like it's enough time where you see

613
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 7: him he's almost crow hopping, like he's crow hopping to

614
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 7: time it up, to scoop it and try to run

615
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 7: through again. That second bounce. He didn't anticipate it being

616
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 7: as quick and as jolting as it was, and so

617
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 7: he crow hopped like like like a shortstop, like a

618
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 7: shortstop would do at a base hit coming his way.

619
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Speaker 7: That that crow hop, I'm gonna pick it up routinely,

620
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 7: gonna do it. And that ball took a weird spin

621
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 7: and it jumped up on him and instead of being

622
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 7: a baseball where you can kind of corral it inside

623
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 7: your chest, it was a football, unblunng ball, you know,

624
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 7: bounce the different ways on this turf.

625
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 4: What happened after the after the game, some players didn't

626
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 4: let the media talk to him.

627
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 9: I think the media was waiting to talk to him,

628
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 9: and C. J. Goodwin stood up and said, you know, no,

629
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Speaker 9: he's not talking today. We're not we're not doing negativity.

630
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 9: And I guess sound like some other guys kind of

631
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 9: spoke up to and said, no, he doesn't he's not talking.

632
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 7: They went, yeah, that part I don't like either. That's

633
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 7: just me.

634
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 8: That's interesting. I thought.

635
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 9: My initial reaction was, this is a veteran that is

636
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 9: trying to protect his younger teammate.

637
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 8: But you don't that's not the case.

638
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 7: How you feel about that, because if you were the

639
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 7: Scooper scored it, he'd have been in front of his

640
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 7: lack of like, look at me, look what I did, right,

641
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 7: he would They wouldn't have said, nah, don't talk to him,

642
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 7: he's a veteran.

643
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 6: No, So let's going and just break man. I'm liking

644
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 6: your conversation.

645
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 4: I don't know just what you think about it.

646
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,239
Speaker 6: I'm gonnat you normally come back's gonna let us know

647
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 6: he's actually gonna talk today. We're gonna let yes. Yeah, yeah,

648
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 6: that was great. I hadn't heard it broken, so yeah, boy,

649
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 6: you you you made it way in back on like

650
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 6: this kid. But hey, it's okay, and.

651
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 4: Loan man put me right back for the final segment

652
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Speaker 4: A half the boys.

653
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Speaker 11: Wow, good stuff, jes How's wings stop sound Crispy Juicy,

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Speaker 4: breaking down. Jesse did a great job of breaking down

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Speaker 4: the special team's block punt that wasn't called for, and

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Speaker 6: Massive breakdown meltdown.

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Speaker 4: Blunder, bad decision to try to feel the ball, But

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Speaker 4: that was really good Jesse. I hadn't heard it broken down.

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Speaker 4: So back to the question of Jesse didn't like the

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Speaker 4: fact that you had c. J. Goodwin and some other

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Speaker 4: guys not letting media talk to Amani after the game. Nate,

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Speaker 4: how do you feel about that good that the veterans

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Speaker 4: were We we didn't.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm gonna give you my one experience, the one

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Speaker 6: time that happened with us. It was Leon Lett in

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Speaker 6: Miami where he did the same thing. But Jesse's talking about,

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Speaker 6: you know, uh snow game. And we didn't have to

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Speaker 6: protect le it because the old tame had an X

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Speaker 6: ray room and he ran the extray room and locked

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Speaker 6: it and the only person he opened the door for

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Speaker 6: was coach Johnson, so we didn't have to protect him.

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Speaker 7: He and he.

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Speaker 6: Pepulated into every media type. Even Rich wasn't even in

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Speaker 6: there before he came out. Nobody that was it, Uh,

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Speaker 6: you know, My thing is this right here. You played

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Speaker 6: tick intact the whole game. Like I opened up saying this,

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Speaker 6: I'm I'm gonna stick with it. You had this one opportunity.

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Speaker 6: Whether this pump block was called for or not, you

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Speaker 6: blocked it. That was your glory. That was the glory

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Speaker 6: of it. Whether you did it the right way like

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Speaker 6: Jesse showed us the wrong way, you blocked it. You

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Speaker 6: had another opportunity. You blew it, and it costs you

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Speaker 6: the game.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: See, people, we talk about it all the time. One

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Speaker 6: or two players a game one it calls you the game,

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Speaker 6: you know. And I listen to everybody bringing in his content.

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Speaker 6: What McCarthy should have done, what the players should have done.

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Speaker 6: You was not stopping number one. You We got some

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Speaker 6: of the top flight corners in the game. I saw

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Speaker 6: him eat up number two. I saw him eat up

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Speaker 6: twenty six, and I saw him eat up number seven.

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Speaker 6: Don't tell me about nothing.

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Speaker 7: He Jamar chased it before the game. He wound up

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Speaker 7: in the in the pregame talk about one of our reads.

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Speaker 7: He had a seven eleven shirt on a seven eleven

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Speaker 7: shirt on saw that and he was like, I'm always open.

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Speaker 7: He was like, hey, I'm gonna give some of the digs.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna give something to Jordan. I'm gonna give something Duran.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna let y'all know. And he's and Jamorrow is

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Speaker 7: chasing the triple crown. He's now in the lead with

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Speaker 7: he leads the league in receptions, le lead in yards,

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Speaker 7: and leads the leagues and touchdowns. So you know, if

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00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 7: the season and the season is out of reach for

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Speaker 7: them and then they're not going to make the playoffs,

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Speaker 7: then Jamar is like, when we go ahead, get this triple

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Speaker 7: crown record'll go get my.

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Speaker 4: Go get my record. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was

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Speaker 4: I think the if you watched it on TV. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if y'all got to watch it with y'all's

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Speaker 4: responsibilities and everything, But like, I think they did a

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Speaker 4: really good job because that's the first time I watched

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Speaker 4: the pregame, the post game, everything. I think they did

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Speaker 4: a really good job of one telling stories right because

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Speaker 4: they had some really cool backstories with Jamar meeting that

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Speaker 4: kid that was in town to see him and what

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Speaker 4: he was doing and he.

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Speaker 7: Did the gritty in the end zone.

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Speaker 4: They taught, you know, they told that story and then

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Speaker 4: following up with players, and something that really stuck out

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Speaker 4: to me was Joe Burrow saying that one route that

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Speaker 4: they ran, that timing route where he threw the ball

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Speaker 4: before he even came out of his break and it

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Speaker 4: was right on the like that coverage was good right

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Speaker 4: there on the goal line. And he was like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's something that we that we've worked on, you know,

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Speaker 4: and it's and you could tell like like I.

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Speaker 7: Mean and like Nate knows that, you know, because Troy

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Speaker 7: and and and Michael the bang Eate that nobody ran

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Speaker 7: the bank gate better than those two. Troy can closed

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Speaker 7: his eyes one two, three for five the top of

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Speaker 7: his drop fire it, Michael could get to his one

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Speaker 7: tw three for five outside foot plant come across that

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Speaker 7: safety's face. I know, I got two step up for

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Speaker 7: that backside. They have to get to me, and like clockwork,

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Speaker 7: those two just had that. I'm I'm if you went

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Speaker 7: back and looked at the yardage for for Mike in

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Speaker 7: his Hall of Fame career, I'm sure more. I'm not

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Speaker 7: gonna say half, I'm gonna say a large. It's close.

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Speaker 7: Probably came down to those bang Eates. A lot of

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Speaker 7: what he did was that and and that's what you

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Speaker 7: have when with your quarterback receiver. It was they had

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Speaker 7: he knew, he knew where to throw it, how to

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Speaker 7: throw it, and it was practice it he got to

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Speaker 7: the top of his drop and that ball was on

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Speaker 7: the way humming to to the outside where he We

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Speaker 7: always say like, it's it's self defense because if you're

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Speaker 7: gonna either you gonna catch it or what's gonna hit you.

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Speaker 7: So the self defense, I gotta I gotta go ahead

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Speaker 7: and catch it. They that's what you see with those

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Speaker 7: type of combinations.

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Speaker 4: Nate. I have a question that I hope you can

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Speaker 4: answer for me. If not, we got yes, all right,

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Speaker 4: my voice.

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Speaker 7: What's that gonna do it? I'm no longer here. You're

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Speaker 7: gonna get through it, you know, baffling with You're gonna

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Speaker 7: have to talk to.

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Speaker 4: You know, when you lose, you questioned a lot of

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Speaker 4: things to whereas if you win, you're like, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: just gloss over it.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 4: So we we the Cowboys lost. So I have a

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Speaker 4: question that I can't figure out for the life of me,

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Speaker 4: and I hope maybe someone can explain to me. You

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Speaker 4: have a running back that seems to have found a

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Speaker 4: rhythm that is took picked up where he's left off.

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Speaker 4: The last two weeks, it was averaging seven point three

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Speaker 4: yards per carry and only had eighteen carries.

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Speaker 7: Sure, he was averaging more per carry than the quarterback was.

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Speaker 4: And he didn't touch the ball the last six minutes

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Speaker 4: of the game. And you had too what two possessions

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Speaker 4: in those last six minutes, and he didn't He didn't

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Speaker 4: even touch the ball. And I know that's par for

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Speaker 4: the course with the play calling this year, and it

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Speaker 4: seems like you we do that every single week. But

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Speaker 4: it seems it seems like this is he's become the

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Speaker 4: running back that they thought he was going to be

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Speaker 4: in the beginning of the year, whether it's play calling

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Speaker 4: and they're feeding into whatever. But he's hit a stride.

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Speaker 4: He looks really good, and he looked. I feel bad

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Speaker 4: for Zeke because when you put him in there after Rico,

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Speaker 4: it just looks like he's got nothing left.

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Speaker 3: Like I feel feel bad for Rico.

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Speaker 6: My boy right there, boy right because I was saying,

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Speaker 6: and I said, no, hold on, what would we just

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Speaker 6: I could turn around and turn back like you Jesse,

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Speaker 6: And I said to my saying, they must handed this

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Speaker 6: ball to Zee, you know, I love see and I'm

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Speaker 6: like this, But anyway, which is.

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Speaker 7: There a reason?

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Speaker 4: Is there a football reason or a play calling reason

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Speaker 4: something that I'm not seeing that's from watching tape that there.

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Speaker 6: You are, twenty twenty. Your boy is lighting up the skies,

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Speaker 6: running the ball. The offensive line has found a rhythm.

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Speaker 6: Two three different positions been changed on your offense and

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Speaker 6: they still doing what you have asked them to do,

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Speaker 6: and you just stop. I have no and no one

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Speaker 6: we wait till Monday or Tuesday, the day after what.

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Speaker 6: I just want to why guys in that moment say hey, coach,

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Speaker 6: you are averaging seven point something yards and carry with

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Speaker 6: six minutes mofth You just did not run the ball.

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Speaker 6: Somebody need to put that question.

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Speaker 7: There's thirty two coaches on this staff, yes and you

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Speaker 7: and ain't Nobody goes hey, coach, Hey hit the side

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Speaker 7: of the coach. Hey, let's keep running that thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: Mike Slaari, somebody, hell, offensive line. We gotta come off

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Speaker 7: the film and say hey, because like one of the

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Speaker 7: turning points of that game where you have Zeke excuse me,

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Speaker 7: not Zeke, you had Rico. He gets the fourteen yard

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Speaker 7: carry and you go pass pass pass incomplete, incomplete, just.

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Speaker 4: Take it right out of his rhythm.

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Speaker 7: Even if you were going to give him, you just

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Speaker 7: killed your drive. And that's the part. And Michael from Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 7: he gets up in the media often he says, you know,

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Speaker 7: we gotta run the ball. We gotta run the ball.

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Speaker 7: We gotta established to run. And then in the moments

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Speaker 7: when you need to, when you were dashing them, they

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Speaker 7: had no answer for you running the football. We go

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Speaker 7: had his best career yard this day, and you picked

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Speaker 7: the worst time to go. Let me put the ball

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Speaker 7: in the backup quarterback hands who got a noodle form

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Speaker 7: arm and has never scored twenty four points or three?

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Speaker 7: I had three touchdowns like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah in the game before we go. Offensive line, a

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Speaker 4: lot of new faces, a lot of new combinations, moving parts.

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Speaker 4: They do pretty good.

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Speaker 6: Oh they did they did. To me, they did well,

872
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Speaker 6: they did well. Uh. The thing is, we only get

873
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 6: to see the rewards through the running game. That's what

874
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 6: we can physically see as for offensive line, because the

875
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 6: passing game, if things ain't going right, we know right

876
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Speaker 6: away quarterback is on his back. But it just it

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Speaker 6: just baffles you that I've been saying play these young guys,

878
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Speaker 6: do what you gotta do, and you you you we

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00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 6: twelve games in it, and you're figuring out that these

880
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 6: guys can help you win games or put to help

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Speaker 6: you be in position to win games, because, like I

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Speaker 6: tell you, you can feel I understand people have to feel content,

883
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Speaker 6: but this game should have been even ugly with six

884
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 6: minutes left. It's like, if we lose this, it's gonna

885
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 6: be on the back of Rico, not on the back

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Speaker 6: of your quarterback. This should have been on the back

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Speaker 6: of Rico. And I don't think he would have let

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Speaker 6: us down. I don't think he would have let us down.

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Speaker 6: He would at least gave us another shot at the

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Speaker 6: field goal.

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Speaker 8: You know the hell, all you.

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Speaker 4: Gotta do is get to the furthest point of that

893
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Speaker 4: star going the opposite way. And Aubrey's gonna give you

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Speaker 4: a chance.

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Speaker 7: Give you a good chance. Yeah, real good chance.

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Speaker 4: Man, Well, good stuff. This was a good show. Her

897
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Speaker 4: different perspectives and what fourth and long, Yes, sir, you

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Speaker 4: can send.

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Speaker 7: Him to good I mean, I ain't gonna play with you.

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00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 7: I ain't. I ain't gonna know good stuff.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Kurt can't come to something.

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Speaker 7: I agree, Yeah, we can't agree to disagree on what it.

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Speaker 11: Was in.

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Speaker 4: So short week? What are we doing to cowboy? Real

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Speaker 4: short week, right.

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Speaker 8: Chris, Cowboys? Maybe that's where we usually go.

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Speaker 6: Do it all tomorrow. We announced do it all tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: We ain't got no other choice. We don't have a

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Speaker 6: show on Thursday.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so no show on Thursday. We'll do it all tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Nate might not be here Friday, but guess what do alive?

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Speaker 6: Guess what will be?

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Speaker 7: Wings?

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Speaker 6: Wings?

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Speaker 7: And I'll be here because if it's free, it's for me.

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Speaker 4: For me, Chris, thanks for keeping us on the air.

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Speaker 4: Jazz and Josh, thanks for keeping them company. We will

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Speaker 4: be back tomorrow. Do all the things I'm hanging with

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Speaker 4: the boys will This has been

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