1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian. When you look at the older TV shows, 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: all the cars had color. They were all different colors, red, green, blue, white. 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Today everything is white, silver or black. You know, very 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: the country's very blah. The car Doctor. I took my 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: car in and they told me the left rear break 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: was completely worn down, almost for nothing. So it would 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: appear like I assumed the caliper is sticking this. That 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: what you was say. Yeah, I would think either the 9 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: caliper or is the I think on an three element 10 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: the parking break cable is part of the caliber. Welcome 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: to the radio home of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor, 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. Is your mechanics 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal? Pick up the phone and 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: call in the garage orders are open, but I am 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five six and 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: now he running. Hey, it's time to start your engines 18 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: along and welcome Ron and In the car a doctor 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: here at five five zero nine zero zero. 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He had 33 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: to take a quick family phone call. Everything all right? 34 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: I think everything is good? Okay, Oh no, I got you. 35 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: That's right. No, no, no, You've got the better looking 36 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: at one of the group. No wine's gut comments or anything. 37 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm kind of disappointed. Usually I get a challenge. Do 38 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: you have a nice week? I expect. Where'd you go 39 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: this week? Um? I started in Virginia, went down to 40 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: North Carolina. Are you do for a Nile change yet? 41 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: Actually I did it before I changed. I didn't have 42 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: time to call you, so I had to change also. 43 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: But we're gonna talk after the show because my car 44 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: my car and the wife's car going for inspection tomorrow 45 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: and uh need breaks. What could possibly go wrong? I 46 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: and probably not much because you saw it recently, but 47 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: hers breaks. I don't understand how other shops do inspections. 48 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: I have to tell you that real quick. As a comment. 49 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: I had a we had a customer, Eddie called yesterday. UM. 50 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: Eddie and Sarah and her Dodge Avenger which had been 51 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: in to see us January. UM went in for Pennsylvania 52 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: state inspection and see I don't remember being able to 53 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: do this as a motor vehicle inspector, but they're trying 54 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: to tell her in Pennsylvania. It was a very weird 55 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: phone call. In Pennsylvania. They were allowed to fail the 56 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: car because one of the shocks, if if it's like 57 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: it was in January, one of the shocks is leaking 58 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: a little bit of oil. It wasn't terrible, UM, but 59 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: you look at the age of the car. They want 60 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: to put, you know, four shocks on it and spend 61 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: it well, they said it was It doesn't make any sense. 62 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: They're using some cheap stuff. It was a Ford dealer 63 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: working on a Dodge. I don't understand that at all, 64 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: but I guess that's the way it is in parts 65 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: of p A. It's remote and they just they just 66 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 1: swapped car lines. But the point becomes, I didn't see 67 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: any clear, definitive rulings on what defines what you can 68 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, what's what's what's legitimately bad breaks? I get 69 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: shocks and struts. There doesn't seem to be a firm 70 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: ruling on that. Have you're driven in Pennsylvania lately, Um No, 71 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: if you had, you'd understand why shocks and struts, the 72 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: way you get cut off, and the whole bit. You know, 73 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: down south North Carolina there's some polite when they drive. 74 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: They drive the speed limit. Actually they drive under it. 75 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: They don't cut you off. It's not like up here. 76 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: It's no fun to drive down there. Well you know 77 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: it's it's it's and I understand that. But still, you 78 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: know what, I still think fixing cars has to include 79 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: a modicum of common sense, and I think that's really 80 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: the important part for or you know, there are some 81 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: people that can't afford to fix that card and ten 82 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: percent or is it safe? When I was a kid 83 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: growing up in the gas station, Billy always said, you 84 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: know the rules are, it's got to have good tires, 85 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: decent breaks, and decent suspension. But don't try and restore 86 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: a seven eight year old car to factory level because 87 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: the person can't afford it. You're gonna put them out 88 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: of the car and put them on the side of 89 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: the road. Now they can't get to work and support 90 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: their family. And oh my god, that's forty years ago. Um, 91 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: that was so long ago. Billy's dead five years all right, 92 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: that's how long ago this was. So you know this 93 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: is and it still applies today. The car's got to 94 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: be safe, the car's gotta be reliable. After that, it's 95 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: all fluff. Well. The thing that drives me nuts is 96 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: like here in New York and a lot of states, 97 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: there's no state inspection station. You go, you go to 98 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: a garage, you go someplace not everybody's around. An Indian, 99 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: I mean I I took I took my car at 100 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: one point to a Ford dealer and they came out 101 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: and they said, you gotta do the brakes immediately. It's 102 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: not gonna pass. And I went, I looked at him, 103 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: I said fail it. And a matter of fact, I 104 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: remember this and the guy looked at me. I said, 105 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: you heard me fail it, and I brought it to 106 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: you a couple of days later for an oil change. 107 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: I said, Ron, with those brakes, I said, Ron. They said, 108 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: we need to do something with the brakes. And I 109 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: had their inspection report and this dealership had actually taken 110 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: out of my chrometer measure of the brake pads. You 111 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: looked at the padge and came up with the exact 112 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: number that was on that form and said, in New York, 113 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: it's down to barre metal. There's nothing wrong with these brakes. 114 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: There's plenty of life left. And it was like, really see, 115 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: And so I take it to an oil oil change place. 116 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: Now they can change the oil, they can change the 117 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: wiper blades, they can change the light bulbs. That's all 118 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: they can do. There's no incentive for them to fail 119 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: the car. I I sort of think, and not sort of. 120 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: I do think, and I've I've said this for god, 121 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: I forget how long. I think one of the reasons 122 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: repair shops oversell, and not all of them, but some 123 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: of them. I think the reason they oversell is they 124 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: don't have and maybe I'm naive, and I probably am. 125 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: They don't have the confidence that they're customers are gonna 126 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: come back because they value their business is something, a 127 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: value that that that what they do is worthwhile. Well 128 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: that and in a lot of state, like in New York, 129 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: it's twenty one dollars to get the car inspected. Let's 130 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: face it, you take it in, you're gonna tie a 131 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: bay up for a good twenty minutes because in New 132 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: York they expect you to pull a wheel and the 133 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: whole bit, um do you charge for twenty minutes in 134 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: a bay? Well, you know you're not gonna make anything. 135 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: And and then there's that Listen, inspection at at at 136 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: at all levels makes no sense to me. Why in 137 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: New Jersey? And you know, I shouldn't put this hat on, 138 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: but now I'm gonna put my garage on her hat on? Okay, 139 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: Why in New Jersey I'm supposed to Well I'm not 140 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: supposed to, but I have to charge for inspection, to 141 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: pay for the machine, to training, the registration that forms 142 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: the licenses. I mean, it goes on forever and you 143 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: can go ten minutes down the road from the shop 144 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: and get it inspected by the state for free. Explain 145 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: to me what genius designed this system? You know, and 146 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: I know, Listen, we're all idiots. We all went out 147 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: and bought machines. Everybody said, oh, I can do inspection 148 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: because I've got people that don't want to go to 149 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: the state. But yet we're competing against the guy for free, 150 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: which is you know, that makes about as much sense 151 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: as Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy eventriloquist act on radio 152 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: in the forties. I mean, how hard was that the 153 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: figure out? Oh, you're right. I mean there there used 154 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: to be a guy near my house and and this 155 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 1: just goes show you the honesty dishonesty in the business. 156 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: He was a muffler repair shop, he was a state 157 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: inspection station. Here was the inspection handy twenty bucks. Okay, 158 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: here's your scraper, here's your sticker, go put it on 159 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: the car. Wow. And that was it. That was the inspection. 160 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: It was like, okay, and you could do that. No, 161 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: you can't, but he did. And he's on a business. Now. 162 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: I understand why I died, but you know, I can't 163 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: understand why. Um but yeah, I don't. I don't know 164 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: if I'll ever I just you know, yeah, it's it 165 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. I guess we'll go open up 166 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: the phones. Lot can talk to Gary, and Florida has 167 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: been listening to us our diet tribe there for twenty minutes, 168 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: ten minutes whatever, Gary, Welcome to the car doctor, sir, 169 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: thanks for waiting. I appreciate your patients. How can I help? 170 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: Good morning? You had a guy called in had a 171 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: problem with the air conditioner. Yea from Florida. I had 172 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: a two thousand three Honda had the same problem, and 173 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: I found out it was a control unit underneath the 174 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: hood in the fuse box. Changed that out and everything 175 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: worked now. And and I appreciate your thoughts. Now here's 176 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: what you have to consider in his case. See, you 177 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: can't make the assumption because it worked for you on 178 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: a Honda, it's gonna work for him on a fort 179 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: But I understand what you're saying, because yeah, you're right 180 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: on him. It could be a relay. It could be 181 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: the compressor klutch if the air gap is too big. 182 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: It could be the PCM, the powertrain control module not 183 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: turning the relay on to turn the compressor on. It 184 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: could be a cool intempt sensor affecting or a throttle 185 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: position sensor affecting. UM air conditioning on time. But the 186 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: mistake he had made was he walked into a repair shop. 187 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: And I guess it isn't so much his mistake. I 188 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: think the repair shop made the mistake. They just wanted 189 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: to take his money. They were about He said, hey, 190 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: the A C doesn't work, and their first answer was, 191 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: let's throw a charge in it. There's no cyclists on 192 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: new cars, you know. It's it's it's it's kind of 193 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: an acquired skill to sit there and look at system pressure, 194 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: and at best it's an educated guess at that point, 195 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: you know, how much do I add four ounces, eight ounces, 196 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: ten ounces whatever? Um? But you know I have no 197 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: problem with putting a part in your Honda. You know, 198 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: we at least take it for a ride, verify the 199 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: clutch is not coming on, verified pressures and things like that. 200 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: But then after that, it's got to be you know, 201 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: I got a diagnose, got a diagnose, listen, go ahead. 202 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: I took it back to my repair guy twice, and 203 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: then third time I took it back, I said, there's 204 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 1: got to be something in between, right, And that's why 205 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: it came up with was the control module was bad 206 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: under the hood, right. I believe I believe he's probably 207 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: talking about the relay UM little little square box sits 208 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: in the relay box. The relay was about thirty five bucks, 209 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: thirty bucks something like that. A man, yeah, um, you 210 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: know that's like go back to the last hour. I 211 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: was talking about the oh three Mercury Grand Marquis with 212 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: the air conditioning that didn't work, the control head didn't 213 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: power up. Imagine if I had changed all the components 214 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: I ran into along the way. The control head was 215 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: part of this, The ignition switch was part of this. 216 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: The central junction box under the dash was part of this. 217 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: The the battery junction box out by the battery was 218 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: part of this. Imagine if I started changing components without 219 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: any diagnosing, without any troubleshooting, where where would the customer be? 220 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: He'd be into the car, you know, two grand and 221 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: maybe then I would have gotten you know, lucky and 222 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: found the broken wire. If I didn't make the effort 223 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: to go find it, I think, and my point then, 224 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: as it is now, is we've got to get more 225 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: in the habit of of of getting used to research 226 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: and diagnosis. One of the one of the hardest phone 227 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: calls for me to take over the past twenty six 228 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: or twenty seven years whatever this has been and if 229 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: you listen to the show from time to time, you'll 230 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: hear somebody calling, you know, I've got such such a 231 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: car and I've got a thousand dollars worth of parts 232 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: in it and it's still not right. And I called 233 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: you because now I want the answer. And my question is, 234 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: why don't you diagnose it? You know what they tell me, 235 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: I didn't want to spend any money on the car. Uh, 236 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: you know, there are thousand dollars in wrong parts and 237 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: now they're gonna now they don't want to spend any 238 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: money on the car. It's it's it's a hard call 239 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: to listen to because you feel the pain. I want 240 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: to have it done right or I don't want to 241 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: do it at all. And I think that's the case 242 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: with a lot of people, Gary, I really do. The 243 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: problem is they don't they don't know, they don't know 244 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: where to go, and they don't know who to talk to. UM. 245 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: I still think sometimes I think lot of times that 246 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: you know, order repairs about the relationship. You want to 247 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: be able to walk in and say, hey, fix this. 248 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: You know, here's the problem, solve it all right. And unfortunately, 249 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: and maybe that's something we do. Maybe that's the human 250 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: flaw on all of us. We tend to make it 251 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: about money, and we don't look at cost, we don't 252 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: look at accuracy, we don't look at quality, and and 253 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: and from there the repair goes downhill. Now, granted, some 254 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: of this is self induced by the repair shops. Some 255 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: of this is self induced by the vehicle owner. But 256 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: I find that when I work and deal with people, 257 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: whether I'm getting something done or I'm doing something for somebody, 258 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: I look for the relationship, and that's what makes it 259 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: work and go a whole lot easier the long one. 260 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: So anyway, Gary, appreciate the call. And how hot is 261 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: it in Florida today? By the way, Uh, it's only 262 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: about eighty nine here in the garage. Gee, it's like 263 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: a spring break for you guys. Um, So what what 264 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: part of Florida in? Oh? Okay? Sure? Yeah? Yeah, I 265 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: know the spring absolutely? Hey, Gary, gave yourself a good 266 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: rest of the afternoon. Yeah, no, Yeah, it's a great state. 267 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: The only thing about Florida real quick that makes me 268 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: nuts is you guys have those alligators there? Yeah? I 269 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: don't know. I can't. I can't live in a state 270 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 1: where something could eat me out sitting up by the 271 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: swimming pool. That just makes me nervous. Oh, but they 272 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: away from the edge of the pool. Yeah. Well, hey, Gary, 273 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: I gotta go. I'm I'm I've I've lost the clock 274 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: at this point. I gotta go make up for it. 275 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: But thanks for the call. I appreciate it. You take 276 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: good care here, Yes, sir, Bye bye, Rod and Ading 277 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: the car Doctor eight five five zero nine zero. We're 278 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: back right after this. When the family car needs some fixing, 279 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: there's only two things that really matter, getting the right 280 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: part and getting some good advice. It's a pretty safe 281 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: bet that, with over a million parts in stock, pet 282 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: Boys has the right part right now. The pet Boys 283 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: Pros are extensively trained to find the right part for 284 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: just about any car truck. Better yet, these pros can 285 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: also handle the entire installation or service needed. It's always 286 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: good have options and no the pep Boys Pros have 287 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: it covered either way. That's right. If you call and 288 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: we're not live, you can leave a message and we'll 289 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: call you back to get you on the air with 290 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: Ron eight five five five zero nine nine zero zero. 291 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: Speaking of Ron, there he is. Hey, welcome back. We're 292 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: on Ding of the car docright five five six zero 293 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Let's go over and talk to Brian 294 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: in the great City of Philadelphia. Good Brian, Hey, how 295 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: are you? What's going on up? I have a two 296 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: thousand seventeen Fusion. I bought it new. Um, maybe in 297 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: about six months after I bought it, I had a 298 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: battery drain. I couldn't figure it out, took it to 299 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: the deal or they said it was an A c 300 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: M and that had to be re restarted, and I 301 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: restarted whether they say reset or something or reprogrammed, and um, 302 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: everything was fine. Um six months later, had anything happened 303 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: to me? Another battery drain and it was the E 304 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: c M had to do the same thing, restart it 305 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: or reprogram it or reset it. And UM I did 306 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: a Google search and I came up with a lot 307 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: of things about it. Um with that model and the 308 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: problem and the dealers. So we've never even heard of it. 309 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: And UM, I don't know if this is because the 310 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: Furion is a very good record. It's been pretty good. 311 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: But I don't know if this is something you've seen 312 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: or heard I've seen right there. I can do to 313 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: prevent it, or is it just something with the software 314 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: that just can happen. No, I think I think what 315 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: the dealer is describing is I'm aware that and I 316 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: believe there is a software update for the PCM. Basically 317 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: what's going on is and I think what they're describing 318 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: to you is that those modules as well as some others, 319 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: aren't going to sleep properly. There's a time out function, 320 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: all right. And I believe what they're just they're they're 321 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: saying to when they say reset, I think they're talking 322 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: about that those modules were flashed or had software updates 323 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: done to them, all right, Um, So I would ask 324 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: them that if it's software update, and now have you 325 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: had the problem since they did the PCM, No, I 326 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: think it was for I look, my documents are right 327 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: in front of me. The first one they called a 328 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: c M accessory E c M. Well, E c M 329 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: PCM are the same thing, you know, the abbreviation off 330 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: the top of my head. I'd have to have to look, 331 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: actually they did. Ever since they did those two, everything 332 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: has been fine pretty much. I've had some like window 333 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: problems with the power windows, uh, you know the automatic 334 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: window thing. Um, but I don't think that's related, and 335 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: they restate that's been sick, so I've been Okay, I'm 336 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: just a little bit parentalated this might happen again. Well, 337 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: what I would do, um, you know, if they're your mechanic, 338 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: I would ask them, or if the next time you 339 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: go into your regular mechanic, I would just have somebody 340 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: do a millium draw test, which is pretty simple. Just 341 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: put an ammeter in line, disconnect negative battery cable and 342 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: look to see what is the current draw after and 343 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: that car is probably gonna take forty five minutes for 344 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: everything the time out, and just see what the current 345 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: draw is. You should see fifty milliams or less um. 346 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: In a lot of cases, it takes up to an hour, 347 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: an hour and fifteen minutes on some of the newer 348 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: forwards for everything to finally go to sleep, depending on 349 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: how the cars optioned out. But I think what you're 350 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: describing to me is they did software updates because modules 351 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: weren't going to sleep properly. They did mention that. They said, yeah, 352 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,479 Speaker 1: they did mention not going to sleep and draining the battery, 353 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: and the actually mentioned those exact words. And you said, 354 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: and and that's and and that's the future. Man, I'm 355 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: telling you, it's you know what, we're going to see 356 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: more and more of this that. Yeah, I think you want. 357 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, I remember you saying cars 358 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: are now computers on wheels. That's all they are. That's 359 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: all they are. Yeah, and you know, just kind of 360 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: makes you wonder what, uh, what's gonna happen when that 361 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: self driving computer on wheels has a problem. How is 362 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: if you're not a mechanic, I think you're a mechanical. 363 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: You're a car You're an automotive mechanical engineer. Now, yeah, 364 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: it's it's it's just it's staggering. Um. A friend of 365 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: mine was working at the local Audie dealer and um, 366 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: he just he just left. He's going back to being 367 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: working in private shop and he's telling me the things 368 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: that they do. Um, he said, it's it's so difficult 369 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: at dealer level. Well, Audie, for example, he said, you know, 370 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: they're doing a lot of recoils on catalytic converters. So 371 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you know, catalytic converter recalls. I know some 372 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: of them are three four hours, he said, yeah, oh 373 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 1: nine out a eight I think was the car he 374 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: was talking about. We're doing recoils on cars with a 375 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: hundred fifty thousand miles for bad catalytic converters, and he 376 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: said it could be twelve hours. You know, you're you're 377 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: taking drive trains down and you know, engines out, and 378 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: you're doing all this work on cars are going to 379 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: get to that point and I think they are there where. Um, 380 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: you know, there's gonna be a finite life cycle and 381 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: working on them is going to require an engineering degree. 382 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: So hey, Brian, I appreciate the call, and good luck 383 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: to you and yours down there Philly Wood. UM have 384 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: a chief steak for us A five five five six 385 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero run anating of the car Doctor. 386 00:18:48,080 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: We are coming back right after this. Thanks welcome back 387 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: the car Doctor at zero card doctor facebook dot com. 388 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: No run an ating in the car Doctor at facebook 389 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: dot com. And don't forget the the con subscribe on 390 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: your podcast. Out of the Car Care Council, I want 391 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: to touch on this out of Bethez the Maryland recently 392 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: um press release. It talks about imagine being stuck in 393 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: traffic on a ninety three day when your vehicles air 394 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: conditioning system malfunctions with summer heating up. The nonprofit Car 395 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: Care Council recommends that motorist b car careware and have 396 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: the AC system check to make sure it's working properly. 397 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: They are correct on this, but one of the things 398 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: that I want to touch on also, and then they 399 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: go on to say, and let me just finish it. 400 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: As the weather turns warmer, the last thing anyone wants 401 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: is to be hot under the collar, um, said Rich White, 402 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: executive director of the Car Care Council. Make sure A 403 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: C system is working properly will keep you when your 404 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: passengers cool and safe, making it very enjoyable for somewhere 405 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,479 Speaker 1: on the road. More information to car here dot org. 406 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: One of the things to talk about, and they bring 407 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: this up later on about checking the system is you know, 408 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: be certain when you're getting the A C system service. 409 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: You know, if you're driving an eight to ten year 410 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: old vehicle and you've got the original radiator, the original hoses, 411 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: the original thermostat, the original condenser, and a lot of 412 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: cars are going twent a thousand, fifteen years down the road, 413 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: you've got to think about the summer heat on that 414 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: cooling system and how that's going to affect number one, 415 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: the A C and number two you'r the vehicle's longevity. 416 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: One of the things for certain, if you're going to 417 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: have a cooling system failure, if you're going to have it, 418 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: you're probably better off having it in the middle of 419 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: January then you're in the middle of July. Reason being 420 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: that that car will overheat very quickly in July and 421 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: possibly cause engine damage as well as the billowing smoke 422 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: and steam and the mess, and you know that whole thing. 423 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: You've got to think about componentry. You've got to think 424 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: about the A C system, like the cooling system, like 425 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: the you know, the fuel injection system. Everything is a 426 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: component and part and parcel of what the vehicle is 427 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: made up of and in terms of how well that 428 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: vehicle will survive. So when you start looking at air 429 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: conditioning and you're looking at air conditioning performance, if that 430 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: vehicle is eight years old or older, if that vehicle 431 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: is five years old or older, you want to consider 432 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: overall condition of the other cooling system components because they 433 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: are also going to affect cooling system operation. They make 434 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: a very big deal. And also depending upon where you live. 435 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: You know, for our listeners in Florida, they'll tell you 436 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: the dragon flies that they pull out of the condensers 437 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: and the debris that that comes up there to block 438 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: the A C condenser. It's huge, the amount of bugs 439 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 1: in certain states. I remember we had a we had 440 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: a listener down in Florida one time. He lived up 441 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: in North Jersey. He went between North Jersey and Santa 442 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: Belle Island. I think down in Florida his license plate 443 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: was bugsy UM. I think he's passed now. This was 444 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: ten years ago. I haven't seen him in years and years, 445 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: but I remember one day bugs. He came up with 446 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: his Honda Odyssey and we were changing the oil on 447 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: the car, and we put it up in the air 448 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: and cleaning the A C condenser of all the bugs 449 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: and the and the crud and the things he picked 450 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: up on the road. And a little bait, I swear 451 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: to God, a little baby alligator, no bigger than eighteen inches, 452 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: had crawled, no bigger than eight that's a foot and 453 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 1: a half had crawled up inside the belly pan, all 454 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: right underneath the bumper. And you had to drop the 455 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: belly pan shield to do the oil change. I think 456 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: it was gust Gus was the mechanic at the time. 457 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: He jumped twelve feet right. He ended the shield the 458 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: shield dropped to the ground and out pocked this alligator 459 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: head and he was just like, oh my god, Um 460 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: it was it was time for coffee, uh in a 461 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: bathroom break, um, and a little clean up. I mean, 462 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: it was just it was a mess. So you start 463 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: thinking and talking about what gets caught up inside condensers 464 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: and radiators and grills. I can only imagine what they 465 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: pick up in Texas. So you know that's where the 466 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: barbecue comes from. Road kill barbecue? Would that work in Texas? Tony? 467 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: Would that work in Texas? You know, if you had 468 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: if you had a barbecue stand, road kill barbecue? No, no, no, 469 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 1: you know the key word is road kill. What if 470 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: you what if you ran over a cow? No? No, 471 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: that doesn't not attract This is not a money card. 472 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: So this is not why while the coyote in the 473 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: road run? Okay, no road kill barbecue. By the way, here, 474 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: your mom's coming next week? Yes, uh yeah, yeah she is. Unfortunately, um, 475 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: a friend of the family passed away. She lit the 476 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: lifetime she's she was a hundred and one wow. Wow 477 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: yeah wow. Well listen, you know what you can't ask 478 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: for much more than that, bro. No, So she live 479 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: the lifetime. But we're gonna we're gonna meet your MoMA 480 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: next week. Yeah. Well, if she stays here long enough, 481 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: I'll bring out here to meet. Unfortunately, you AND's Tom 482 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: will be nice. We won't tell her anything. Look, she 483 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: knows me already forty eight years. She knows about me. 484 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: Surprises that would be great. We'd love to meet your mother. 485 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: Will be nice, won't we, Tom? Yeah, right enough, will 486 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: be really nice. But is your mama Giants fan? She is? 487 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: And she's living in Houston. Yeah, but she was one 488 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: of raised in Brooklyn. You know, Giants, the Nicks, the Yankees. Okay, 489 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: so that's where you get it from. Okay, plus some 490 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: smart Well how are the Mets doing? By the way, 491 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: back to the regularly scheduled program program. So so anyway, 492 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: the whole point is, take a look at and consider, 493 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, radiators, condensers, and the other cooling system components. 494 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: If you're doing any kind of work on air conditioning 495 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: this summer, getting the vehicle ready. Another thought I want 496 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: to get into. And I was reading an older copy 497 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: of motor Age magazine. This is written by a gentleman 498 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: Eric Ziegler, who's a contributing editor and he talks about 499 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: the y and house scanning he can see. He starts with, 500 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: vehicles are becoming more complex with many consumer driven feature 501 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: improvements to vehicle navigation, entertainment, and safety systems. The price 502 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: tag on these modern high tech marvels that many of 503 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: customers own is equal to our more than the has 504 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: you grow up. And that's true. The modern autoblebile is 505 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: usually one of the greatest investments. I don't know if 506 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: investment is the right word, but I think it's one 507 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: of the greatest expenses, second only to the purchase of 508 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: a home that people nowadays making their lives. Since vehicles 509 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: are costing more, the closes of repairing them is increasing. 510 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: A lot of this is due to the advent of 511 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: the expensive safety systems like airbags, restraints, seatbelt pretensioners, collapsible 512 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: steering columns, et cetera, adaptive cruise control. The list goes on. 513 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: The article goes on to talk about the value in 514 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: pre and post repair scans. Pre and post repair scans 515 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: are becoming a bigger and bigger part of what we do, 516 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: especially in collision centers. While there are tooling and online 517 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: options for pre and post scanning, established a working relationship 518 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: with a local mobile diagnostics professional or a stationary mobile 519 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: stationary diagnostics professional is your best bet if one is 520 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: not available. If one is available in Urrea, no long 521 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: and service can realistic compared to having boots on the 522 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: ground professional when it comes to that interpretation and ensuring 523 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: a successful programming outcome. The point of this is is 524 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: he talks about post pre and post repair scanning, and 525 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: it talks about pre I post repair scanning on collision vehicles. 526 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: You've got to think of scanning a car as you 527 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: go to the doctor on an occasional basis or on 528 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: a regular basis. Stick out your tongue and say ah. 529 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: Sometimes scanning a vehicle at an oil change, if you're 530 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: gonna document it and store the information and maintain a 531 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: file on it, can tell you where that that car 532 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: went bad, where that person went bad. I know someone 533 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: that was caring for their mom for the past two years, 534 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: and the mom was going to doctors and and and 535 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: and getting regular checkups and everything was good. And then 536 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: one day, all of a sudden, the mom's memory was 537 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: being treated as unnatural uh, and within three months the 538 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: mom develop dementia. So that mom was scanned four times 539 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: over a two year period. Just like you know, she 540 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: was plugged into the computer and tested and tested and tested, 541 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: and then one day it went bad because they had 542 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: a baseline to work from. Same thing with your car. 543 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: You gotta give the mechanic a baseline to work from. 544 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: I think successful diagnostics and less expensive vehicle repair is 545 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: gonna come about by doing regular scanning on a regular 546 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: basis and making more to do or dealing and doing 547 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: more with that data. So excellent article, Eric, I appreciate it. 548 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: Uh um. And he goes on to talk about the 549 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: number of PIDs. I mean, you know, the average for 550 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: today has over four hundred and thirty PIDs. That's over 551 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: four hundred and thirty pieces of data stream um in 552 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: the vehicle. You know what it takes to interpret that? 553 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: That's it's staggering stuff. Um. The numbers are just getting 554 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: higher and higher every day. Where will it end? Eight 555 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: five five zero nine zero run ending the car doctor 556 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: coming back right after this when the family car needs 557 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: some fixing, there's only two things that really matter, getting 558 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: the right part and getting some good advice. It's a 559 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: pretty safe bet that with over a million parts in stock, 560 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: pet Boys has the right part right now the Pep 561 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: Boys Pros are extensively trained to find the right part 562 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: for just about any car truck. Better yet, these pros 563 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: can also handle the entire installation or service needed. It's 564 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: always good to have options and no the Pep Boys 565 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: Pros have it covered either way. When you get keep 566 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: Ron's number hand the eight five five five six zero 567 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero for when you really need advice 568 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: on your car. Here's Robb received an email this week 569 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: from a friend, Bruce. He was a He's an insurance 570 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: dude out in Pennsylvania. We talked to Bruce a couple 571 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: of times a year. Um, you know, just just a 572 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: real good acquaintance and a good guy. He's a car guy. 573 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: He's a podcaster, he subscribes, he listens to us. Uh 574 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: somehow visa They Hey, Ron, I hope this note finds 575 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: you well. I wanted to ask you about oil, conventional 576 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: or synthetic. Sixty dollar question, right, he says. Bruce says, 577 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: I just bought a two thousand seven Volvo x C 578 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: seventy wagon with a two point five liter turbo. It's 579 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: got a hundred ninety one thousand miles on it, and 580 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: I want to do an oil change. I've never owned 581 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: a car with a turble before, so I'd like your 582 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: expertise on the subject the owners, Manuel says five thirty. 583 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: They also suggest castro. I do my oil changes faithfully 584 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: at three. The previous owner mechanic, just use conventional oil. 585 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: My question is because of the turbo, should I use 586 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: conventional or synthetic? Do turbos tend to run hotter and 587 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: maybe break the oil down sooner? The car goes back 588 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,239 Speaker 1: and forth to work, mostly highway in country roads. Let 589 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: me know your thoughts. I love the radio show. I 590 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: download the podcast, listen to the car all the time. 591 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: It's a great resource of information. Still need to visit 592 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: one day and do lunch. Warm regards Bruce Dunna, Yeah, Bruce, baby, anytime, 593 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: come on out. Um. You know, I like synthetic. I 594 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: like synthetic clearly better than conventional, and especially in the 595 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: case of a vehicle it's got a turbo one it 596 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: all the extra heat and all of the you know, 597 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,239 Speaker 1: the other thing you've got to think about is all 598 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: of the extra Schmutz non technical industry term or technical 599 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: industry term that's built up in this engine over the 600 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: past eleven years and hundred and any one thousand miles. 601 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: You know, oil will create sludge down on the crank 602 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: case that turned. That can be a very acidic, very 603 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: caustic type of material. So you know, synthetic has a 604 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: better cleaning ability. It will help break down the oil 605 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: and maybe over time wash out some of the varnis 606 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: and some of the other deposits that built up inside 607 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: the engine. So synthetic is clearly the way to go. 608 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: I don't know that you necessarily need to use castrole 609 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: Um castrales a fair oil, but it's also I personally 610 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: think the marketing department of Volvo got together with the 611 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: marketing department of Castrol, and if memory serves me right, 612 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: I think Volvo was sponsoring Castrol or cast Volvo was 613 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: sponsoring cap sorry, Castro was sponsoring Volvo for some I 614 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: think some races or something ten twelve years ago. And 615 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: you know that's how we sort of got the oul 616 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: to go into all their cars and all the money 617 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: that that made. So listen, it's just gotta meet o 618 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: we manufacturer spec. I don't think there's anything pro Prietarry 619 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: and Castra. What he is a good quality and named 620 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: brand oile. Yeah, absolutely, Um you know, you can put 621 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: Mobile one in it and it will still work just 622 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: as well because Mobile one meets all new car manufacturer 623 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: respects as well. So you know, do that get you're 624 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: still some five thirty Mobile one synthetic and you'll be 625 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: just fine. But the key is synthetic over conventional. Do 626 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: I do the oil changes at three or do I 627 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: take them the five? I think you're okay at five. 628 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: You want to do the first couple of oil changes early, 629 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: that's fine too. Just know that you can sneak it 630 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: out the two thousand miles, especially if you're doing oil changes. 631 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,239 Speaker 1: You know you're doing you're driving. A lot of your 632 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: driving is out on the road. You're doing a little highway, um, 633 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: you know, big city cruising, you know, or not big 634 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: city cruising. So um, that's that's part of this as well, Bruce, um, 635 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: you know as always and jee miles. That's uh. You 636 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: know you've got to look and see what engine that 637 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: is that should be the two five turbo. You got 638 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: to think about when was a timing belt done on 639 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: that list, because by now it's it should have been 640 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: done at least once, if not twice. So you want 641 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: to make sure that that gets taken care of as well. 642 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: But um, you know, synthetic is clearly better. And oh 643 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: and let me elaborate on that for a quick second. 644 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: The reason it's going to be more apropos for this, 645 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: the amount of heat that that turbo is gonna build 646 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: up is it's excessive. There's no other way to say it. 647 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: Synthetic oil helps resist that heat and helps break helps 648 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: resist what they call thermal breakdown, that's the college word. 649 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: Where the oil with it gives the oil the ability 650 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: to withstand you know, high heat up to a certain application. 651 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: So that will keep that going long. Because I absolutely 652 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: know this for effect, that car needs a turbo charger. 653 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: You don't want to put a turbo in that car 654 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form because it just gets 655 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: way too expensive. So uh yeah, let's go synthetic, and 656 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: let's go something other than castrol. If you want to 657 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: zero zero or on any of the car doctor coming 658 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: back right after this, welcome back right any of the 659 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: car doctor winding it down. This there a quick piece 660 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: of email. I keep answering the same question, but it's 661 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 1: from a different person. I must be a popular PROBLEMDA 662 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: Court owners. Manuel says trailer toe is capable of a 663 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: thousand pounds. Dealer says, do not toe with the CVT. 664 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: The manual says, yes, I want to talk a three 665 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: and fifty pound boat trailer. What can you tell me? Um? 666 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: You know, listen, UM as before, what does the manufacturer say? 667 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: All right? If the manufacturer says yes, now you gotta 668 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: go to the dealer and say, why do you say no? 669 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: What are you seeing that makes you not want me 670 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: to tow this vehicle? Uh? To tow with this vehicle? 671 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: And you got to abide by that decision. I I 672 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think a Honda a court is 673 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: a great tow vehicle either. Um, but it sounds like 674 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: a small boat. You've got a three and fifty pound 675 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: boat and trailer. So we're not talking about tone and 676 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: the Queen Mary. But just be mindful that you are 677 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: working the car a little harder than perhaps it was 678 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: intended to be, even though it's rated for it. Um. 679 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: But just be aware that you want to put certain 680 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: safety for questions in place. You know the right at 681 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: the right lights, you know the right stuff in terms 682 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: of making that work. So but I would also suggest 683 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: calling American Honda and getting their opinion because it's you know, 684 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: why would the dealers say one thing and the owner's 685 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: manual says something completely different? But um, you know, I 686 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: think you'll get your answer that way. Again, I'm not 687 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: saying toe a big boat, but I would think you'd 688 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: be okay to a reasonably size three or fifty pound boat. 689 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: Sounds more than enough. Hey, let's get back to Let's 690 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: finish out with our real fixure track fix of the 691 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: week from the folks at Mitchell One um that the 692 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: turrent issues. Vehicles have come with factory installed security systems 693 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: for many years, and the vehicles get older, security isn't 694 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: much of a concern, which I've been saying for a while. 695 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: You know, this is a two thousand Pontiac Bonneville. Back 696 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: in the day, this was a great car. Nobody's gonna 697 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: try and steal a two thousand Pontiac Bonneville anymore. This 698 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: particular car had a P sixteen twenty six replaced the 699 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: powertrain control module. Customers said the check engine light was on. 700 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: They hooked up a scan tool found code B sixty 701 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: six that the turrent fuel enabled system lost disconnected. The 702 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 1: body computer inspected the connector found those sorts of voltage 703 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: with ignition on with the key on engine off. They 704 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: used the multimeter to measure the voltage of the body 705 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: control they have to turn fuel enabled circuit and found 706 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: the measured voltage was a specified five volts. Turn the 707 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: ignition off and reconnected the controller with the key on 708 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: engine off. They used a multimeter, let me turn the page. Okay, 709 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: they use the multimeter back probe the fuel enabled circuit 710 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: at the PCM, measured hurts frequency and found the frequency 711 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: was an inspect that's connect to the powertrain control module. 712 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: Found no signs of damage. They verified that the o 713 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: G the replaced powertrain control module was faulty new means 714 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: never ever worked. Replace the parrotraintrol module, cleared codes, did 715 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: a road test and verify the vehicle operated properly. And 716 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: that's something to keep in mind. This comes to a 717 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: courtesy from the folks over at Mitchell one Mitchell one 718 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 1: dot com, good stuff. UM. Their relational databases second to none. 719 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 1: They've got a lot of information in there. If you're 720 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: looking for real world fixes Mitchell one dot com that's 721 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: open to anybody. I believe you just have to find 722 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: their shirt track fixes. UM. Keep in mind that that 723 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: was a very common failure with that generation of GM product. 724 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: We get into these no crank scenarios or these crank 725 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: no start scenarios just because the check engine lights on. 726 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: How would you know if it was the car doesn't 727 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: start if you want to scan it. Scanning everything is 728 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: where this industry is going, and it's really there right now. 729 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: I'm on an any in the car doctor, reminding you 730 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: the mechanics aren't expensive, They're priceless. See you,