1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Scott. You ready ooh, I'm ready to laugh and laugh 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: and laugh this holiday season. 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: How hallucinogenic mushrooms explain most of our Christmas traditions. 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Okay, now we're talking. Because everything needs a starting point 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: and it can't just be some kid in a manger. 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: Let's dive into a very special episode of a holiday 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: show we call bananas all the way around the world, 8 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: because I think you. 9 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: Got this. 10 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: Baby dropping baby, baby dropping baby. 11 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: Guys, gals, non binary pals, Happy holidays, and welcome to 12 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: a holiday episode of Bananas. 13 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: You asked for it, so we're giving it to you, 14 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: and we're serving it up piping hot like Hacoco Curti, 15 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: b how are you good? 16 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: You know I got a peppermint mocha. I got a 17 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: peppermint mocha latte at Starbucks the other day and that 18 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: was like me, So that was me getting ready for 19 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: the holidays. 20 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: I mean, that's one way to do it. I I 21 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: also wanted to dedicate this speaking of festive festivals, this 22 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: episode's dedicated to the good and decent people of Crystal Falls, Michigan, 23 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: population one thousand, five hundred and ninety eight. They're two 24 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: away from sixteen hundred kurt Crystal Fall, the Crystal Falls. 25 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 2: We're falling in love today with Crystal Falls. 26 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: They are known for their Humongous Fungus Festival every August. 27 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: It's in the Upper Peninsula at Michigan, So we're going 28 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: to have to go to the old Humongous Fungus Festival. 29 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: At some point, I thought that was a good transition 30 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: from your mushrooms. 31 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: Oh, I appreciate that, but you know what for you know, 32 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: we just did last weekend. I took the kids and 33 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: Gretchen and Lauren, we all went to the Botanic Gardens 34 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 2: in Brooklyn for their light show home Lee Shit, it 35 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 2: will hold back. It was so good. They have a 36 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 2: different artists due each like section, so like everybody's like 37 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: bringing their a game to make it like very cool 38 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: and fascinating. There was one section I guess it's maybe 39 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 2: during the year a rose garden, but huge rectangle, huge 40 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 2: rectangle of grass like I don't know the size of 41 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 2: a foot imagine the size of a football field done. 42 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: And then in the middle of the football field is 43 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: like a gazebo of some sort. But you can't really 44 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 2: see the gazebo because it's just covered in lights. And 45 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: then all on the ground running up to it where's 46 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 2: concentric like almost fractals of lights lying the ground, and 47 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: then classical music playing timed out to all of these 48 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: lights shooting across the ground through these fractals and then 49 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: hitting this gazebo and like lighting it up and then 50 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: just doing it over and over, like all different patterns, 51 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: all different lights. 52 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: It was so cool. 53 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: And then you watch it from like from one perspective. 54 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: Then you walk along the side of it, and then 55 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: you climb like all the way up and probably like 56 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: I don't know, six stories, so then you're standing looking 57 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: down on the whole thing, and then it totally changes 58 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: the perspective of what it looks like. It was like 59 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: that was just one of like thirty of them. That 60 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: was like so great. They serve drinks and they have 61 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: like the hot drinks, they have alcohol, it's they have food. 62 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: You can go eat dinner there. It was like the 63 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: Brooklyn Botanical Gardens is like amazing. 64 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: It is and it's near the ice skating rink in 65 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: Prospect Park two and I used to go there because 66 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: I could walk there from my house. I was like, 67 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: I wonder if anybody uses this, And it was like 68 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: twelve hundred children skating faster than I've ever seen in 69 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: my life, and talk about like world peace. It's like 70 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: every ethnicity is represented, and when you're on ice skates, boy, 71 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: you really are all equal. Everybody. It's exactly the same, 72 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,679 Speaker 1: looking like a real horse's petuit on ice skates. Everything 73 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: that's so fun. 74 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 2: Everywhere I go now, I've been in Brooklyn like a 75 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 2: lot the past couple of days, but everywhere I go 76 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: where I used to live now is like eighteen times 77 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: cooler there when I lived there. Do you remember when 78 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: I lived on twenty fifth Street between Fourth and Fifth. 79 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: Avenue, Yes, I do. I love that neighborhood twenty so now. 80 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: So I used to live across the street from a 81 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: dunkin Donuts, right, and that was like there was no 82 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: coffee shop near me, there was no bar near me, 83 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: there was nothing near me. It was just the dunkin 84 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: Donuts was what you got. Yeah, it is now a 85 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: luxury condo across the street is a fully organic full 86 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: grocery store. Across the the other street is a bagel place. 87 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: Across the other is a deli. It's like it's a 88 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: hot happening corner twenty fifth Street and Fourth Avenue. Now 89 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: it's fucking crazy, but. 90 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: That's not surprising because it felt like every year it 91 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: would go one block it would open in a cafe 92 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: and a cool bar, and would go one block deeper, 93 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: and then it'd be like, have you ever wanted Croatian food? 94 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: Now you do, here's the best Croatian restaurant. There was 95 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: a little bar near you, and I used to hang 96 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: out like a quarter that little tiny bar. 97 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was right here when I lived on Nineteenth Street, right, 98 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: that was a great one. I was great and they 99 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: had really nice custom cocktails that I'd never I've never 100 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: had anywhere else. And it's not It's the only bar 101 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: that I would go to where I would be like, 102 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: I'm going to get the cocktail you make, as opposed 103 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: to one that I've decided that I'm going to have. 104 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: Before i get there, exactly, And I remember it so fondly. 105 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: I do too. 106 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: It was a lot of drinking there. It was a delight. 107 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: Also, two bananimals asked this year, lots have done this 108 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: in the past, but when I lived in Brooklyn for 109 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve, if you need an alternative way to 110 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: celebrate News Eve with your friends or family. Really you 111 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: can do a pants cutting party. This is something I 112 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: think I invented with a few buddies in two thousand 113 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: and five. 114 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: Or six, maybe one of my favorite parties ever. 115 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're good. You came to probably three or four 116 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: of them and they just people kept coming back. That's all. 117 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: You know. It's a good party. First year was four 118 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: of us, next year was like thirteen of us. After 119 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: that it was so crowded, just people would come all 120 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: night showing up with their own scissors. So the basic 121 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: rules are pick a theme for pants and shirt, so 122 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: turtlenecks and corduroys, sweatpants and denim jackets, whatever you want. 123 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: Make a top and a bottom combo. We did a 124 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson shirts one year and that was a big 125 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: hit because you don't realize how many off brand knockoff 126 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson shirts there are. Then everybody, starting at nine 127 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: point thirty, you have to find somebody else at the 128 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: party that you know or don't know, but you get 129 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: them to cut about three to five inches of your 130 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: pants off, starting at your ankles, so tandem scissors. You go, hey, 131 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: will you cut me, I'll cut you, and you throw 132 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: all those into one pile in the middle of the 133 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: biggest room in the house or apartment. Every half hour 134 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: you find somebody new to cut your pants until midnight, 135 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: you should very pants left. 136 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: Is it half I thought it was every hour you 137 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: cut two inches. No, it's every half hour because people 138 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: really don't start like hanging out till nine, so you 139 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: need to get it all done by midnight, right, Yeah. 140 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: And what happens is people start becoming like hall monitors 141 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: of it and they're like, it's time to cut, or 142 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: they'd come over and find like Scotty, it's ten oh one. 143 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, time to cut, and so just 144 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: have some scissors out, be careful as you're drinking and 145 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: cutting each other's pants off. But then make a big 146 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: pile in the middle, and by New Year's everybody will 147 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: be wearing the short is short. Sometimes it just ends 148 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: up being your belt loop is left, so wear your 149 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: undergarments accordingly. But there's no other huge tradition except the 150 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: two drinking things we would do, which are so stupid. 151 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: We would take the pad off a crutch, the arm 152 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: pit pad, and turn it upside down. It looks like 153 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: a weird Twinkie hot dog, and we would do crutch shots. 154 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: So if you have a crutch or you want to 155 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: go to a nearby CBS and get a brand new 156 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: crutch pad instead of a used one, I recommend adding 157 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: a crutch shot to your cutting every half an hour. 158 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: This is the dumbest thing you've ever heard. 159 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: I don't remember. 160 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, crutch you definitely did many crutch shots. You probably 161 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: remembered it when you go what are we do? Or 162 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 1: you can do some version of cowboy face. You could 163 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: do Santa face. 164 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 2: You can do on a Santa hat, take a shot 165 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: and then shake your face. 166 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, or just take a warm shot and have somebody 167 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: take a photo of you as soon as you take 168 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: the shot wearing a Santa hat and then just post 169 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: us your socials. Just just really naughty Santa. We'll call 170 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: it naughty Santa face, but we used to call it 171 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: cowboy face. Yeah. But yeah. Pants cutting party, please if 172 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: you if it's just five of you and your friends, 173 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: just go buy cheap pants. Cut them off. It's a 174 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: great way to celebrate. 175 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: A fantastic way to celebrate. You'll you'll never have more fun. 176 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: Folks. Here it is. This is in. 177 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 2: Fungi Foundation dot org. No, it's f Fungi dot org. 178 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: That is where I got this. 179 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: But this is a story I've. 180 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: Heard many places. Pecifically, I had a friend who was 181 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: obsessed with it. I'll tell that story after we hear 182 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 2: about it here. It is the influence of hallucinogenic mushrooms 183 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 2: on Christmas. The story of Santa Claus is not the 184 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: creation of Coca Cola, nor Saint Nicholas or a children's story. 185 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: It exists because of a small living being with great powers, 186 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: the Amanita Muscaria mushroom. This was written by Julianna Forci 187 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: of f fun Guy staff. She's the profounding director. Let's 188 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: see what she looks like. 189 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: She maybe is the best in the bids. Does she 190 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: look like a mushroom? 191 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 2: She looks like she loves the trip I see. No, No, 192 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: she doesn't look like hippie dippy. She looks more like 193 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: I have knowledge. 194 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: She does. Yeah. 195 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: Robert Gordon Wasson, an anthno ethno mycologist and anthropologist John A. 196 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: Rush have investigated fungui the religious and ritualistic perspective and 197 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 2: also their psychotriropic properties. In their research. Both came to 198 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: the conclusion so independently. Both came to the conclusion that 199 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 2: the Amanita muscaria mushroom is closely related to the Christmas imagery. 200 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 2: Hundreds of years ago, it was found that the winter 201 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 2: solstice ceremony of the indigenous people of the North Pole, 202 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: especially the Choreaks of Siberia and Comchodales, have similar traditions 203 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 2: to the ones of the last centuries Christmas Eve. In 204 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: the ancestral communities of the Arctic, the winter solstice, which 205 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 2: occurs on December twenty first, was a ceremonial and festive date. 206 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: Rituals were conducted that were guided by shamans who collected 207 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 2: the Amanita muscaria mushroom, also called fly a garrick which 208 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 2: has a powerful hallucinogenic properties. Fun now, Amanita muscaria is 209 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 2: a striking characteristic in appearance with its red hat and 210 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: white dots. It grows in the ground near trees such 211 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: as birch and pine. The latter, for the indigenous people 212 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: of the North are trees of life, a name that 213 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 2: relates to their great height. Therefore, the place where the 214 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: fly agaric mushroom grew was a place of particular value. 215 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: So just imagine pine tree and at the bottom red 216 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 2: and white little gifts gorgeous. 217 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: That's stunning. What a stunning description. Gorgeous. 218 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 2: The toxicity of the aminitamiscaria when ingested is high, so 219 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 2: before taking it they had to dehydrate them on the 220 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: branches of the pine. A second possibility was to put 221 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: them in socks and spread them over the fire, an 222 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: image that closely resembles the Christmas tradition of hanging Christmas 223 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: boots over chimneys. No Christmas boots over chimneys. I don't 224 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 2: know where she's doing, but we're talking about. 225 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: Christmas boots over chimneys routine. 226 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: We're talking about stockings over a fireplace normal. And also 227 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,599 Speaker 2: the idea of like hanging things like ornaments from the 228 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 2: Christmas tree. So imagine again pine tree, a lot of 229 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: red and white things hanging from various branches underneath, or 230 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: the actual myscariot mushrooms, and they're big. These can grow 231 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 2: big up there, like bigger than two hands, and so 232 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: they looked like little gifts waiting under the tree. 233 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: Right, that's nice. 234 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: Additionally, the reindeer were of great help in reducing the 235 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: toxicity of the mushroom, since they can eat amanita mascary 236 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: without suffering the effects of its venom. Thus the urine 237 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: of the animals was used since they had since they 238 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: had already filtered the harmful components of the mushroom out, 239 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 2: but what still maintained its hallucinogenic effects. After the shaman 240 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: had ingested the mushrooms or drunk the urine of the reindeer, 241 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: the hallucinations and reactions of the amanita began, such as 242 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: feelings of joy, desire to sing, or increased muscle tone. 243 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 2: That's true, so any physical effort was easier to perform right. 244 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 2: The legend says that during their trips, the shaman has 245 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: managed to see the future of the community, they could 246 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: turn it and to animals and fly towards the North 247 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: Star in search of knowledge to share with the rest 248 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: of the people, and at the end of their hallucinogenic experience, 249 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: they would return to the group in their yurt, the 250 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: type of housing typical of the inhabitants of that region, 251 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,599 Speaker 2: and met with the important men of the town to 252 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 2: begin with the solstice ceremony, in addition to sharing their 253 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: visions with the community. So shaman's psychotropic journeys are believed 254 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: to be related to the idea that Santa Claus travels 255 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: with his sleigh and reindeer through the skies to deliver gifts. 256 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: The gift given by the shaman was the knowledge that 257 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: the mushroom gave them, in addition to sharing portions of 258 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: it among those present. Another similarity with the Christmas imagery 259 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: is that the entrance of the yurts was a hole 260 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: in the roof because the main door was covered with snow. 261 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: Thus the shaman made his appearance descending from the highest 262 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: part of the house, similar to the Santa Claus descending 263 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: through the chimney. Cool clothing is another similarity, since toomner 264 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: I am Anita Muscaria, the shaman's dressed in red and 265 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 2: white clothes, and to protect themselves from the s le's 266 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: know they used large reindeer leather boots that overtime turned black. 267 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: So the expansion of Santa Claus. How does this go 268 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: from there to hear? Over time, the shamanic archetype change, 269 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: and it's said that with the travels of Druids this 270 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 2: tradition spread to Great Britain. Then through the cultural exchange, 271 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: it was combined with Germanic and Nordic myths that related 272 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: adventures such as those of Wotan. The Germanic god owed 273 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: in his Nordic counterpart and other gods, who, when traveling 274 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: during the night of the Winter solstice, were chased by 275 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: demons in a sleigh pulled by an eight legged horse, 276 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: totally normal. It was said that a trail of red 277 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: and white blood fell from the sleigh and that the 278 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: horses frothed white foam to the ground, where the amiable 279 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: mushrooms would appear the following year. Oh with time, Christianity 280 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: related the Christmas tradition of the fourth century Turkish biss 281 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: of Saint Nicholas of Bari, who also inspired the character 282 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 2: of Santa Claus, since he used to give gifts of 283 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: those in need and especially children, and then finally a cheerful, 284 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: playful and at the same time realistic Santa Claus was 285 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: the commission that Coca Cola gave the illustrator had in 286 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: Sunbloom in nineteen thirty one, hence the current image of 287 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: Santa Claus. Thus, the power of the Amanita muscaria mushroom 288 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: has marked the history of Christmas until today. The rights 289 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: on the dates close to the December solstice are preserved 290 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: until today with clear modifications, but the mushrooms remain present 291 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: through Christmas decorations and designs to connect us with hundreds 292 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: of years of tradition. Isn't that wild? 293 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: Never had any idea at all that they were related? 294 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: I mean right that. 295 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: I mean like it's so crazy that it all comes 296 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: down to that, Like I love that there's this through 297 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: line to like the very beginning of like human culture. 298 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: And also that is all about tripping. 299 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: Yes, that's exactly. But as you were saying it, like 300 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: coming down the chimney is the strain just choice, like 301 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: of all the things you said, a legged horse becomes 302 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: a little reindeer, I get it, and flying through the 303 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: sky commets exists. But then just to be like and 304 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: then you know what happened, It just drips right down 305 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: the chimney where the fire is burning. It is the 306 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: weirdest thing that Santa does. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Also a 307 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: lot of weird things. 308 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 2: Also the the it like how reindeer reindeer help Santa 309 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 2: like travel by allowing like having Santa drink their piss. Yeah, 310 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 2: that's how weird sleigh flies yea drink the reindeer piss. 311 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: One morning, when I was a little guy, when I 312 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: was like three, my parents says a little prank to 313 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: my sister and I moved the Christmas tree and all 314 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: the presents. So when we came down the stairs to 315 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: the basement, the tree was completely gone and all and 316 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: there were no presents, and they had moved it. It 317 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 1: was an L shaped basement living room, and so they 318 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: had moved it over to the shorter part of the L. 319 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: And so when we our tradition was like we'd sit 320 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: at the top of the stairs and then my dad 321 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: would go down because he would like, you know, make 322 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: sure Santa came, yeah, and then he'd be like, okay, 323 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: and then we would come down and sit down and 324 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: look at the Christmas tree and get kiffs. And we 325 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: came down one of those years. The basement, well it 326 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: was like a finished basement, you know, it was ease cussed. 327 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: So it wasn't actually technically first floor. Was there like 328 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 2: a door to the outside in the basement or no. 329 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: It was downstairs. It was the basement basement, and it 330 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: was finished and we had a fireplace down there and stuff. 331 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: Very cozy. But yeah, he you know, we all decorated 332 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: the tree. They hung the stockings or the heavy military 333 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: boots or whatever that lady was saying over the fireplace. 334 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: But when we came down that year, the tree was 335 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: gone and there were no presents, and they were like, well, 336 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: I wonder if Santa took the tree. And then they 337 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: were like oh and then like we walked around the 338 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: corner like wrap gifts and you know, but it was 339 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: so out of character for them. We must have been bad, 340 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: Like I wes Sis said, I must have been demons 341 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: that year because they've never pranked me ever in my 342 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: entire life. But for some reason Christmas nineteen eighty six, 343 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: they were like we're coming in hot. 344 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: Or something or something catastrophic happened in the night, do 345 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like like the it caught 346 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 2: on fire, and then your dad like ran out and 347 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: bought a new Christmas tree and then they like set 348 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: it up, had to set it up in a different 349 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 2: location like something possibly like that. You should ask your parents. 350 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: Never know, Yes, they listen to you can you can 351 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: know they listened to the podcast. They listen. 352 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 2: Take advantage of that. 353 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: It's true. 354 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 2: Find out sure, I will so. My buddy who was 355 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: obsessed with Dominia mushrooms, Oh yeah, he told me this story. 356 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: Originally he and he was a man who lived in 357 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: a year in up upstate New York. So he lived 358 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 2: in a yar for twenty five years during upstate winter snowstorms. 359 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I cannot even imagine, no, sir. He was 360 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: a very interesting guy. He was one of the original 361 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: teachers at Tom Brown Survival Wilderness School, which started in 362 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: the seventies, and he actually was on He was on 363 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: David Letterman twice because David had Tom Brown on and 364 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 2: so Tom didn't want to do the demonstrations himself, so 365 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: he would bring Steve. His name is Stevelee. And so 366 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: Steve would start a fire with a bow drill on live, 367 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: like in front of a studio audience. And this is 368 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: a man who does not like to perform in any way, 369 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: shape or form. Was so nervous, and then he's like. 370 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: Just you know, you know, with a bow jail, Explain 371 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: what a bow drill is to be so I know 372 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: what you're saying. 373 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 2: So it's a piece of wood that's curved. That's the bow. 374 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: Imagine like a bow, like a bow and arrow, So 375 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: imagine the bow. Then there's a piece of string that 376 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: goes from the top to the bottom, from the top 377 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 2: to the bottom, and then you have a spindle that 378 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 2: you wrap in that in that cord, and then you 379 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: have a piece of wood that has a divot cut 380 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 2: in it, and underneath the divot is like a tinder 381 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 2: bundle what we would call We usually made them out 382 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: of jute. You would like separate jute, the straight the 383 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: rope until it was like a little. 384 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: Bird's nest cottony type thing. 385 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you put that under there and then essentially 386 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: you draw the bow back and forth, which spins the 387 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: spindle very quickly, causing friction in the wood. And then 388 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: you get a coal that drops down into your tinder bundle. 389 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: You pull it up and it's very dramatic because it's 390 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 2: smoking and smoking and smoking. Then you pull the tinder 391 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: bundle up and you just blow on it and it 392 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: just pops into fire. 393 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: It's really impressive. And he did this on David Letterman. 394 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 2: He did this on David Letterman. 395 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: So that's musty TV. That is no kidding, right, yeah, 396 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: because you're If you don't do it, it's just the 397 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: saddest forty five to two minutes of TV. And if 398 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: you do it, everybody at home goes, now, I know 399 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: how to do that. Yeah, I'm more of a human. 400 00:21:55,000 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, But anyway, So, uh, Stevelee lived in the woods, 401 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: lived in a yurt for twenty five years. He was 402 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: like the caretaker of this land that we would go 403 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: camp at called Crow and he became up cessed later 404 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: in his life. He would have like these obsessions and 405 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: we would go up and camp and all he would 406 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: do was talk about it. And so one year it 407 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 2: was just amity to my scaria mushrooms because he had 408 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: found a couple underneath the pine tree up there, and 409 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 2: he started doing all this research on them. And then 410 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: and then he tried so often to like ingest them 411 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 2: and trip and it was just violently sick like it's 412 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: so he totally tried and then was like it just 413 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 2: it's too much. I can't handle it. 414 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: Oh god, Yeah, toddy mushrooms are not fully fully into. 415 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: Yeah you have to know the history of that. Oh 416 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: my gosh. 417 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: But he was, you know, he was a plant specialist. 418 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 2: He knew. He walked through the woods with him was 419 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 2: like going to the grocery store. You know, like every 420 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 2: single thing you saw you would like pick up and 421 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 2: explain to you what you could use it for. It 422 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: was he was an amazing man. 423 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: That sounds I mean that's so crazy that he tried 424 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: to do that. It's like, I think I have a 425 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: slight fear of like mushrooms. I love them, I eat them. 426 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: I think they're great. But I yes, like if it 427 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: was like we're gonna go then again, we had a 428 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: wonderful forger We had a lexus on, we had black 429 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: forger on. And she just goes out there and eats everything. 430 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: She just picks it up all the time. 431 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 2: She knows what, she knows what she's doing. 432 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: It's true. I do want to do like I you're 433 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: back in winter Wonderland. I'm still in you know, it 434 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: was eighty five yesterday. Oh my god, it's eighty five degrees. 435 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: I was wearing shorts and a T shirt yesterday and 436 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: there was a dad wearing sandals. He like brought his 437 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: kid into the gym. And for a second, I wanted 438 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: to be like, relax, white guy, you could stop wearing sandals. 439 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: But I'm like, it's eighty five degrees. Sky can wear 440 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: flip flops if he wants to. But I want to 441 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: go to Switzerland. I want to go to Grindlewald, Switzerland 442 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: and do that longest toboggan run you know that. Have 443 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: you seen that thing where you take the chair lift 444 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: up and then you sit in toboggan's and then you 445 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: just sled for so long. It sounds like I don't 446 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: know how long it takes to get down, but it's 447 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: like a twenty five minute gondola ride up and then 448 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: you get on a toboggan and you just go down 449 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: and find it. Yes, it's and it's in Grindlewald, and 450 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: it just looks so damn fun. I would love to 451 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: go with adult friends and just be like, all we're 452 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: going to do today, it's sled, have a cocktail, toboggan, toboggan, toboggan. 453 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: It just seems so fun to me. 454 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 2: Oh, one, I want to do that. 455 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: I'm like a toboggan guy. I think, yeah, I'm a 456 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: toboggan guy. 457 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: Are this is the first time learn this? 458 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: I want a toboggan. I want ten friends on a 459 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: really long wood sled and I would just want to 460 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: go down a mountain with them. I think it's so fun. Yeah. 461 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: I don't know how long that won in Grendawald takes, 462 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: but it's a long way down, and you know, it's Switzerland, 463 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: so it's gonna beautiful. The whole way. 464 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man, that's gonna be nice. 465 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: Well, I'll wait for your kids to be in school. 466 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait for your kids to be in college 467 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: so you can be like Lauren and I are going 468 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: to Grindelwald with Scotty the Toboggan And they're like, no problem, 469 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: We're glad we're not going. Oh you know what, I 470 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: had an interesting thing. You and I were talking about 471 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: something and I mentioned my maybe I was on the Patreon. 472 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: I'd mentioned my good friend Machek, who is a Polish 473 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: exchange student to Baltimore, to Riister's town when I was 474 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: a kid. Well, I found his website. He still lives 475 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: in Warsaw, and I wrote it to his website. He 476 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: instantly got back and then Sunday morning we zoomed for 477 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: forty five minutes and caught up. 478 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 479 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to go visit him in Warsaw. And I 480 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: was like, well, he loves Poland and he's like, in 481 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: the last thirty five years, Poland has transformed in his 482 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: democracy that the rest of the world can't even imagine. Yeah. 483 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: I was like, well, where do I go besides Warsaw. 484 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: It's like, go to crackout and then go north and 485 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: there's three sister cities and he's like, I'll go there 486 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: with you because then if everybody speaks English, but if 487 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: you need a translate, I'll be your guy. So next 488 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: year twenty twenty six, are going to try to go 489 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: hang out with Macho. 490 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 2: Like in January or February. You're going to try and 491 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 2: go in the summer. 492 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: I think he said to come in like he like 493 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: everywhere in the Northern Hemisphere. He's like, come in May. Yeah, 494 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: He's like May is beautiful. But yeah, he will just 495 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: train around. And it was so good to see my 496 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: old buddy after I haven't seen him in I don't know, 497 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: I have twenty years maybe more. Yeah. Anyway, here's the 498 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: one that you won't know whose side you're onn Okay, 499 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: I'm ready, man, says woman he's dating has accused him 500 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: of spoiling Christmas because he refuses to dress up like 501 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: Santa for her children. All right, This was of course 502 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: in People People magazine dot Com because these are about people, 503 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: people live in their life and speaking to people. The 504 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: woman who wrote this, Terria Sheffield. You don't get much 505 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: more people than Teria. Best in the biz. Sheffield. The 506 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: man says the request made him quote uncomfortable end quote. 507 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: The man says he's dating a woman who accused him 508 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: of ruining Christmas because he will not dress up for 509 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: Santa Claus for her children. The twenty nine year old's 510 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: pretty young. That's a young Santa detailed his story on 511 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: the popular reddit. Am I The A Whole? We'll say 512 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: a whole since it's a family episode, a place where 513 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: people can go seek input about interpersonal dilemmas. In the 514 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: post time is it is? It? 515 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: Is? 516 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: It? 517 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: Is it a family episode? After we've deeply discussed how 518 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 2: hallucinogenic bush rooms inspired all of the Christmas traditions. That's 519 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: what we're going with. 520 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: Am I the A Hole? We're going to call it 521 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: it's a family podcast overall. I thought it was we occasional. 522 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: It is educational. That's why you never stop learning in life. 523 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: Freshman in life, Kurt and I it is of shot 524 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: fucking because I'll do a lot of thumbs ups, and 525 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: the ones that are from eight year old's twelve year olds, 526 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, they want a thumbs up their friend 527 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: in school. You got a kid, Okay, family podcast? Am 528 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: I The A Hole? Where people can go seek input 529 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: from strangers about their interpersonal dilemmas. In the post, the 530 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 1: man explained he's been casually seeing a twenty eight ear 531 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: woman who has three sons, and they've only been dating 532 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: for about three months. It's pretty new, oh okay. He 533 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: went on to say that she recently made a special 534 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: holiday related request for him. A couple days ago, she 535 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: asked me if I wanted to dress up like Santa 536 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: for her kids for Christmas. I told her I would 537 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: think about it, but I was uncomfortable with doing it, 538 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: he said. He went on to say that he is 539 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: a big guy and he's been asked to be saying 540 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: around the holidays ever since high school, simply quote, because 541 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: I was the fat guy with a beard. 542 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: Oh, he's got a big white beard. No, he doesn't 543 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 2: have a white. 544 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: Beard when he's twenty nine. So unless he's Steve Martin. Yeah. 545 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: He also said he was nervous about the quest on 546 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: a deeper level, oh okay, as he feels as though 547 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: the woman is his casual dating three month girlfriend is 548 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: putting him in a parental role too quickly. I actually 549 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: don't agree with that. I don't agree with that. It's 550 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: just Sannah. 551 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: It's just Sannah, It's just Santa. But also I can 552 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: also understand that three months is a very short period 553 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 2: of time. Yeah, I can completely. It seems too fast, 554 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 2: it seems too intimate. And also, don't won't they recognize 555 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: or I guess it's three months, they don't recognize him, 556 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 2: They won't recognize him. 557 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: I know, it's an interesting one. Also, wouldn't you think 558 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can, like white spray paint 559 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: your beard. I'm sure there's hair spray that is white 560 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: like it's a guy. Yeah, it's gona look like crap. Yeah, 561 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: but he said he has previous expressed firm boundaries when 562 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: it comes to our children that I do agree with. Yeah, 563 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: because of this, unless. 564 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: You're gonna be unless you you are one hundred percent 565 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: that you are going to be in a long term 566 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: relationship with a person, do not meet their kids. 567 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: Love that love that I women do this way more. 568 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: A lot of my women friends will be like, can 569 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: you grab a drink? I'll say sure, and they'll be like, 570 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: the guy I'm dating is two kids, and here's what happened. 571 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: And it is it's tough, it's not It is more 572 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: complicated than seems and all my friends are great gals, 573 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: and they're still like get you constantly have to remind 574 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 1: yourself you're not their parent. Yeah. Well, also being an 575 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: adult in the room, it's very strange and beautiful and stunning. 576 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: Because of this, the man said he had decided to 577 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: officially refuse the request during a recent phone call, and 578 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: the woman was not happy at all. She sounded sad, 579 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: she sounded irritated. Then she said I was spoiling Christmas. 580 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: I told her I was trying to avoid spoiling Christmas 581 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: next year because children cling onto things like that and 582 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: will begin to expect it. And since we aren't officially together, 583 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: who knows if we'll still be seeing each other. Then 584 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: he's trying to. 585 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: I think A because it is the regular thing for 586 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: kids is so important. It will just be sad if 587 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 2: they've that they're not together next year and there's no Santa. 588 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: Yes, agreed, And so because it's read it, and it's 589 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: because am I the a whole, many commenters said, like 590 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: the heavy majority of people said that the original poster 591 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: had every right to refuse, and even suggested that the 592 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: woman was displaying red flags. But if you ever read 593 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: a I t a. It's always red flags, red fix no. 594 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 2: Matter what the person does. They're just like this person 595 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 2: sounds crazy and you got to break up with her, 596 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: and it's just. 597 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: Like so true. Whoa, whoa, whoa. 598 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: This is like a minor thing. 599 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be like my boyfriend enjoys his first coffee 600 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: in bed. Am I the asshole that I want to 601 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: drink in the living room. They're like huge red flag 602 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: trying to get you facts. 603 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: You should cut, you should kill them. 604 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: Yeah that's docks him right now. But yeah, to your point, 605 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: it's like one person, say not the a hole pressuring 606 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: someone into doing something they don't want to do, or 607 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: making it so obvious. It is a manipulative thing for them, 608 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: trying to set a normal boundary. I I think I 609 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: have envy because I can't really grow I can't really 610 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: grow beard. You can grow a nice beard, so one 611 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: day you can be a great small sant. 612 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: No way, pal, this is just all the sides are 613 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: just there's one hair per inch. 614 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: Why it is? Really? We have geneticists on here. I 615 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: won't know about facial hair. 616 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, why is it not? I can grow hair everywhere else, 617 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: but then just the cheeks, there's nothing happening. 618 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: I know, I like the guy, my dude. I've talked 619 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: about him a few times in the podcast. The new 620 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: guy that cuts my hair is a great dude, and 621 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: he's like, he definitely is a he definitely likes to party. 622 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: Like you know, I told I said one time I 623 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: had a ten am. He was supposed to open the 624 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: shit and he had forgotten his scissors and his Raisins scissors. 625 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: So he has a motorcycle. So he texted me and 626 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: then he called me and he's like, hey, just you 627 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: can go in. I left it unlocked. Feel free to 628 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: sit down and have a drink if you want. I'll 629 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: be right back. I forgot all my stuff. So he's 630 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: that kind of guy. Yeah, but I really like this guy. 631 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: But I got my haircut about a week and a 632 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: half ago, and for the first time ever, he like 633 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: just trimmed a little part of my eyebrow, like I 634 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: had a runway old man eyebrow hair going off, and 635 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: he just did it casually without saying anything. And I'm like, 636 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: I have entered a new arena in life mine. I 637 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: now have an eyebrow getting cut. 638 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: My eyebrow hair is so long, so often it is 639 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: insane how quickly it gets really long. It's really cuckoo. 640 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: Yes, so years ago I dated a woman in Mississippi 641 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: and her dad had a gorgeous, gigantic white beard, and 642 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: he had a bit of a button nose, and he 643 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: wore round glasses. His shaved head, bald head, shaved head, 644 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: and a big guy, like a six foot three guy, 645 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: not fat or anything, just a big man. And every year, 646 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: every year his family would pressure him to be a 647 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: mal Santa. They had a former Malsanta talk to him 648 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,959 Speaker 1: and say that the guy at Jackson Mississippi Square or whatever. 649 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: He was like, I make forty thousand dollars to be 650 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: Santa for you know, thirty two days or whatever from 651 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving to Christmas. So everybody was like, oh, I think 652 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: there's big. Actually, let's look that up. It's an educational podcast. 653 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 2: But mal Sanna is in Mississippi. No way, he's making 654 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: forty k If you're the number one guy, what do 655 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: you mean the number one guy? 656 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: Top Santa earners make five hundred dollars an hour. What yeah, boy, 657 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: it's a it's a competitive job. They can make anywhere 658 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: from ten to sixty five five thousand dollars in a 659 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: six week season. What here's one that says and these are. 660 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 2: Dudes with actual, real beards and everything that look a 661 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 2: lot like Santa Claus. 662 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, The average Malsanta in the United States, Kurt 663 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: And as of December first, twenty twenty five, makes sixty 664 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: four thousand dollars. 665 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 2: The average Mal Sana makes sixty four thousand dollars. 666 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: That's courting salary dot com accounting department. 667 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 2: Salary dot com is bullshit. 668 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 1: Mal Sannas who work right after Thanksgiving can make anywhere 669 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: between ten to one hundred and fifty five thousand dollars 670 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: for work. 671 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 2: Wow, but I mean that's a big range, ten to 672 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 2: fifty five. 673 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: I agree. I would say that there's no median there. 674 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, so I think average Mal Santa and if 675 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: I can find it over one hundred and fifty dollars 676 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: an hour, that's a crazy amount of money. 677 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 2: So I kind of wish I looked more like Santa. 678 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying, is I wish I could 679 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: grow a beard because I'm like my retirement plan. Yeah, 680 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be out there the day after I'm gonna 681 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: be out there November first. 682 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 2: Being Christmas in July, just so I can get some money. 683 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: Joke. So one time we asked this guy. We were like, 684 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: why don't you do it? That's so much money, yes, Mississippi. 685 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: And he said, kids are disgusting. They smell and they're sticky. 686 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: This is a man who had three children and had 687 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: two grandchildren because they smell and their disgusting and I 688 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: don't want all their gross smells. 689 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 2: Like that's the weirdest part, do you know what I mean? Like, 690 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 2: they are definitely sticky, but they don't smell. That's the 691 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 2: that's one of the advantage of children. They kind of 692 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 2: smell nice because they don't really produce body odor. 693 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: It's up to the parent. There's always a there's always 694 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: there's always a stinky kid in every class. 695 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you really think, so there's a stinky kid. 696 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 2: I don't know. I've never I've never encountered a child 697 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 2: that smells. 698 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: Well, it was so funny that he was so adamant, 699 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: but basically he was like, I don't want to tell 700 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: other people's sticky, stinky children. And he wouldn't budge on it. 701 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: And this went on for years, and you know. 702 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 2: It is a good way to get sick. Definitely a 703 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,479 Speaker 2: good way to get sick. 704 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're little buckets of germs and that's okay. 705 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, you envy you have gloves on and you're not, 706 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 2: I mean, you're you can always point their face away 707 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 2: from yours. 708 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. I just will never be at Monsanto sadly, no 709 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: matter how hard I tried. It's just my face. If 710 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: I grow a beard out fully, it takes like it 711 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: takes over two months for it to fill in, I mean, 712 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 1: and it still looks like crap. 713 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, mine, I mean I was what. I went six 714 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 2: months because I didn't cut it while I was at 715 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 2: the job, because I was like, I'm not going on auditions, 716 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 2: I'm not performing. It doesn't matter. And it was barely 717 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 2: any longer than it is right now. 718 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 1: It just looked. 719 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 2: It just looked unkempt. I looked like an unkempt gentleman. 720 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,439 Speaker 1: Give us any of the ban animals. Yeah, oh, thumbs ups. 721 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tease the sin of some thumbs ups. 722 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: Let's do it. 723 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: H Christmas service accidentally prints tupas hail Mary lyrics. 724 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: Oh I've heard of this. This is so good. Thumbs ups. Uh, 725 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: I think it's Adriana. Could be Adrian I screenshot at 726 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: it like crap. Wants the thumb up her best friend 727 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 1: for the success of her business, Kurt, You're gonna love 728 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: this elder Emo company, elder Emo Co. She had a 729 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: great weekend at the twenty twenty five Orlando Warp Tour 730 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: and it's either Adriana or Adrian couldn't be proud of 731 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: her Her friends started this company a few years ago 732 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,919 Speaker 1: for the elder Emo community. She tours around the United 733 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: States selling merch at concerts and just live pop ups 734 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: at elderemo dot com. So if you consider yourself an 735 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: elder Emo, and I know a lot of us, are 736 00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: go get some great merch from elderemo dot Yes, thumbs 737 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: elderreemo dot com. It's a great website, you know, it 738 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 1: says from mosh pitt to mezzanines, it's basically all of 739 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: us that used to go super hard at shows that 740 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 1: now I've soften up a little bit. Steve, Steve wants 741 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: the thumbs me up for helping him quit drinking goofy 742 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: little challenge. The Dry sixty nine went further than he 743 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: ever had thought. The Dry sixty nine got Steve healthier 744 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: mentally and physically and he's down to two hundred and 745 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: twenty three pounds from two hundred and ninety pounds. Oh 746 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: my goodness, serious, Scottie, I honestly don't think I would 747 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: have done this if you hadn't made up some wacky 748 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 1: way to do it. Ban animals. A near zeeve is 749 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 1: coming if you need a resolution, dry sixty nine sixty 750 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: nine days of zero alcohol consecutively, but start it whenever 751 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: you want. I'm going to start ours Kurt after our Austin, 752 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: Texas show. 753 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 2: Awesome. 754 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: I like that, So I'm starting mine. If you want 755 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 1: to do you know, a dry sixty nine with me, 756 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: start on February fifteenth, because we're going to be an 757 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: Austin on February fourteenth, and I think it ends April 758 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: twenty fifth, so that's a pretty easy time of year 759 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: to cut the sauce, unless you're going to spring Break 760 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: and Lake Havasu and last but not least, I love this. 761 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 1: Thumbs up, Ellen says, I want to thumb a thank 762 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 1: and thumbs up all the custodians. 763 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 2: All the custodians. 764 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: Yes. Ellen works at a high school with over two 765 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: thousand people that only has four custodians. 766 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,800 Speaker 2: That's eight epe crazy. 767 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: She says, they handle the most disgusting things that often 768 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 1: go unnoticed, and they often go unnoticed. If you love 769 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: your school's custodians, give them a box of donuts or 770 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: a gift card this holiday season. Thumbs up to you, Ellen, 771 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: that's a very kind thumbs up. Yes, and that's true. 772 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: Give your kids, you know, if you're giving their teacher 773 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: little gift, give their local school custodian a little gift too. 774 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 2: Oh wonderful thumbs up. Let's get you lightful, Let's do 775 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 2: it fine. A little story here. This was on CBS News. 776 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 1: Yeah right. 777 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 2: This was sent in by copy Haste. Thanks copy Haste. 778 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 2: This was written by Andrea Park. 779 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: Best in the Biz, best in the big. 780 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 2: Well, that's one way to liven up a Christmas service. 781 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 2: A Christmas service pamphlet from a Sri Lankan church went 782 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 2: viral after it mistakenly printed tupas Hail Mary lyrics instead 783 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 2: of the words to the thousand year old prayer that 784 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,439 Speaker 2: includes passages from the Gospel of Luke Instead. Colombo church 785 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 2: goers at Joy to the World twenty sixteen, one of 786 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 2: Sri Lanka's largest carol services, were surprised to see lines 787 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 2: like revenges like the sweetest joy next to getting puh 788 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 2: and kilou minati all through your body. The blows like 789 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 2: a twelve gage shodye. To be fair, both the prayer 790 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 2: and the Tupac song asked for the intercession of Mary, 791 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 2: mother of Jesus Christ in order to redeem Sin. 792 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 1: I love that song. 793 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 2: Tupac's version is far more though. 794 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: That's a good song. 795 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 2: Want Attendee Andrew Choksi told The Guardian he sent photos 796 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,760 Speaker 2: of the pamphlet to his friends and they subsequently went viral. 797 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 2: No maya culpa was issued during the service, No explanation 798 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 2: was given it all. Chokski said, they didn't acknowledge it 799 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,240 Speaker 2: at the venue. To be honest, I was bursting inside 800 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 2: and that is how it ends. 801 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: Baby Tupac is so surprising. Tupac was twenty five years 802 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: old when he died. Oh my god. The fact we're 803 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: still talking about the fact that every time I turned 804 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 1: on kDa, within three songs is a Tupac song. The 805 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 1: dude was so prolific. Crazy. 806 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 2: It is twenty five, two years, twenty seven, my god. 807 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 1: I've mentioned this one years ago, but I went to 808 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: Switcher the first time I ever went to Europe. I 809 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: went to Interlock in Switzerland and Zurich. I just I 810 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 1: wanted to go, and I went to Germany. I went 811 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: to Germany first and took a train over to Switzerland. 812 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: Wonderful trip. And when I was in Interlocking, for those 813 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: who have been, there's just some streams and rivers there 814 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: that are color blue, that are so beautiful and clear, 815 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,959 Speaker 1: and it's just crazy. You go, oh, okay, I see 816 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: this is mountain Alps water. Yeah. And one day I 817 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: had a free day and I was like, I'm just 818 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,919 Speaker 1: going to wander down this path, knowing that they don't 819 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 1: have guns here, so I'm completely safe forever. And I 820 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: was just walking along a river. There were there beautiful 821 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 1: cows with the big bells. I was looking up and 822 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: looking at mountains with the Alps, with snow covered mountains. 823 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 1: And I go deeper and I'm crossing wooden bridges that 824 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: are just gorgeous handmade bridges over the rivers. I'm really 825 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 1: having like a spiritual, nice moment as a twenty seven 826 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: year old man. Yeah, and so this would be in 827 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: the two thousands, deep into the two thousands for sure. 828 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 1: And I get to this one bridge and I'm standing 829 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: looking at the water going underneath. I'm just kind of 830 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 1: like looking for fish and looking at stones, just so 831 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 1: happy that I made it to Europe and I could have. 832 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: I valeted for a year to be able to afford 833 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: the trip. And on the wood, uh, somebody had written 834 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: rip tupac Amorrow Shakur, and I was laughing. He died 835 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety six, so it was still cutting somebody 836 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: up eleven or twelve years later, where in true I 837 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: thought I had died and gone to him. 838 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 2: I felt like you were somewhere no one has ever been. 839 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:35,280 Speaker 1: Before, especially not somebody who listened to tupac Amaru Shakur. 840 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: And I just started laughing so damn hard. And it's 841 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: also the influence of America. It's like, yeah, it's everywhere, 842 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 1: really so sorry to the rest of the world. We 843 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 1: really get our tentacles and everywhere. Wrist in peace. Tupac 844 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: Amaru Shakur the best, oh Man. Should I send us home? 845 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 2: Send us home? 846 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 1: Baby? Real life grinch broke in on wrap gifts and 847 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: and took a nap on the sofa. No. Sara Reinhart 848 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,720 Speaker 1: sent this in WGM E Main written by Bjorn Bogan, 849 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 1: who was Yesizz yes, I'll just give the first two 850 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: or three sentences. He refused to leave when the tenants 851 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,839 Speaker 1: found him. A quiet Sunday morning took an unexpected turn 852 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: when a tenant discovered an uninvited man sleeping on their 853 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: living room couch. A resident woke up and found fifty 854 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 1: year old Jose Harvey of Milford to sleep inside their 855 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: Bangor apartment. He woke up grumpy and refused to leave. 856 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 1: That's when the police recalled crazy. And then I'll just 857 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: say both news stations noted that many Christmas presents had 858 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: been unwrapped near the couch and were laid out with care. 859 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: So crazy, So Jose just wanted to see what was 860 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: in there, got tired, it's so tired unwrapping gifts, and 861 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: then took a little stranger' snooze. He crawled in through 862 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 1: an unlocked bathroom window. And the local police say it 863 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 1: goes without saying. Doing a routine check of your window 864 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: and door locks is prudent in this day and age especially. 865 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 2: I mean, you would think that no one is going 866 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,760 Speaker 2: to be climbing in through your window in Bangor, Maine. 867 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 2: Maybe Bangor is a bigger city than I'm anticipating. 868 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: It's it's it's nice and beautiful. It's a winter wonderland. 869 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: Shout out to all our maniac bananimals. I like that. 870 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 2: Thanks guys for listening, and happy holidays to everybody. We're 871 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 2: not going to miss a beat. We're not going to 872 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,399 Speaker 2: miss a beat. We'll be back next Tuesday as well. 873 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 2: We don't skip any but this is a special holiday episode. 874 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 1: Everybody, have a wonderful season. Stay happy, stay happy, stay healthy. 875 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 1: Stay bananas Bananas. 876 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 2: Oh no no no no no no no no no 877 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 2: no no no no no no no no no no 878 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 2: no no no no no no no no no no 879 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 2: no no no no no no no. 880 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: No no no no no no no no no no 881 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no no 882 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: no no. Bananas Bananas is an exactly right media production. 883 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,360 Speaker 2: Our producer and engineer is Katie Levine. 884 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,720 Speaker 1: The catchy Bananas theme song was composed and performed by Kahan. 885 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,319 Speaker 2: Artwork for Bananas was designed by Travis Millard, and our. 886 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: Benevolent overlords are the great Karen Kilgareff and Georgia Hartstart. 887 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,240 Speaker 2: And Lisa Maggott is our full human, not a robot, 888 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 2: part time employee. 889 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: You can listen to Bananas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 890 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,399 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts, and please feel free 891 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: to rate and review as many times as you can. 892 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,320 Speaker 1: We love those five stars bananas