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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly Jongfast, and this is Fast Politics, where

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Speaker 1: we discuss the top political headlines with some of today's

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Speaker 1: best minds. And former President Obama is urging Democrats to

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Speaker 1: have such a great show for you today. The Lincoln

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Speaker 1: Project's Rick Wilson joins us to discuss Trump weaponizing the

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Speaker 1: DOJ against Gavin Newsom. Then we'll talk to Johnny Garcia

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Speaker 1: about his his run for Texas's 35th district. But first,

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Speaker 1: the news.

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Speaker 2: Somali, no big deal.

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Speaker 3: You know, we just have whistleblowers saying that AI may

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Speaker 3: end humanity.

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Speaker 2: You know, nothing to be concerned about.

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Speaker 3: But it turns out, because of the House of Mike Johnson,

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Speaker 2: Of the world as we know it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not actually. Johnson calls for AI solutions, but

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Speaker 1: says Congress won't take the lead. So who will, Mike?

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Speaker 1: Who will? Certainly not Mike Johnson. The head of Anthropic

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Speaker 1: saying that they should slow AI development. We had a

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Speaker 1: We want Congress to enact some regulations and safeguards to

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Speaker 1: don't know. Again, this is a situation where we have

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Speaker 1: the legislators we have and those legislators are not able

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Speaker 1: to really understand what's happening here, as are a lot

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Speaker 1: of us. Some people are against the regulation. They include

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Speaker 1: mostly Donald Trump. And David's Act. Both people who are

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Speaker 1: the hope is that there'll be some larger group of

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Speaker 1: shocked to hear. So this is all really scary and bad.

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Speaker 1: You're going to hear more about this, but probably not

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Speaker 1: also there are other things going on here, right? Like

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Speaker 3: The reason these tech bros are embracing this is that

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Speaker 3: open sourced AI, while it makes for democratization, is a

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Speaker 3: it also can lead to chemical weapons plans leaking very easily.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I think there are two things happening here.

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Speaker 3: So speaking of very stupid, as we know, the right

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Speaker 1: This is the whole thing with the right, is this

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Speaker 3: The usual also that, you know, this whole entire week

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Speaker 3: nine years old. And the real thing here is, as usual,

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Speaker 3: it's the racism of it all. And it's making nothing

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Speaker 1: And then you have people on the right being like,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Meanwhile, we find out that Rudy sold all these

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Speaker 3: to that wonderful, wonderful man who's done so many wonderful

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Speaker 3: things for our country. So, Molly, boxing aficionado Scott Besson,

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Speaker 3: who's also known as the Treasury Secretary. He's made some

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Speaker 1: Okay. So, first of all, I would like to point

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Speaker 1: he comes from Bondworld and he recently got smacked down

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Speaker 1: And in fact, they just did. So the Treasury Department

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Speaker 1: And what he wants is to lower interest rates. What

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Speaker 1: And if that fucking moron in the White House would

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Speaker 3: So Ted Cruz, one of the biggest lowlife losers we've

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Speaker 2: Anti-trans, Islamophobic, all sorts of things.

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Speaker 3: Like, it's just, like, the reason he is the least

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Speaker 3: it every fucking day. But we saw just how unpopular

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Speaker 3: he was as he was touting his stupid Protect College

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Speaker 3: Sports Act. Let's see this tape here.

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Speaker 2: Enormous value and enormous skill. But it also puts reasonable

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Speaker 3: You know, nothing like trying to reverse some of the

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Speaker 1: He's just the fucking worst. And that is why Ted

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Speaker 1: of the Lincoln Project podcast. Welcome, welcome, Rick Wilson. Hello, Molly.

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Speaker 2: How are you today?

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Speaker 1: I am better than Gavin Newsom's travel budget, let me

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, the Department of Justice announced that they're

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Speaker 4: going to investigate Gavin Newsom because the state of California

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Speaker 4: The story here, I think, is the selective prosecution of

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Speaker 4: to the future of MAGA. in 2028 or whatever, and

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Speaker 4: because he's trolled Donald Trump for a year now very effectively.

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Speaker 1: And he has nice hair.

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Speaker 2: And he has great hair.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, let's just say it.

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Speaker 4: But they can't somehow, the DOJ is like, when they

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Speaker 4: hear that Ron DeSantis and Casey DeSantis stole $ 10 million

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Speaker 2: 10 million, DOJ is like, What? No, we're way too busy, man.

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Speaker 2: We can't.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, we're super busy right now. We got a lot

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Speaker 4: going on. We're trying to find the people who altered

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Speaker 4: the 2020 election. Obviously, this wide open black and white

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Speaker 4: case in Florida is just no interest to us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's like DeSantis's glove fund, her $ 10 million

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Speaker 1: glove fund does not get any play. The question in

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Speaker 1: my mind is, if you're J.D. Vance, who voters find

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Speaker 1: weird and don't like his face. Shouldn't you spend that

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Speaker 1: money on investigating Ron DeSantis, who voters like his face

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Speaker 1: a little more? If you're going to be totally graven

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, Ron DeSantis.

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Speaker 4: Is preparing for another run for president, as improbable as

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Speaker 4: that may sound, as cuckoo town as that may sound.

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Speaker 4: Because if you don't ship to the Suez, you got

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's not great. It's not great.

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Speaker 1: So let's get back to that because that happened at

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Speaker 1: Well, the two things that broke through in my mind

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Speaker 2: The crowd wants the Borscht Belt insult comic crap from Trump.

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Speaker 1: From what?

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Speaker 1: But my favorite part of that was it had it

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Speaker 2: Dear Lord, let the sweet meteor of death plunge to

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Speaker 2: earth and take me now, is what is going through

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Speaker 1: No, I know.

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Speaker 4: Now he's been given the impossible assignment of, Handle a

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Speaker 4: group of lunatics inside his caucus.

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Speaker 2: If you wake up in the morning and.

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Speaker 4: You've got to deal with Cynthia Loomis and Tommy Tuberville

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Speaker 4: and Ted Cruz and all these other idiots, you've got

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Speaker 4: to have a real masochistic streak in yourself, right?

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: But he spends this enormous amount of political capital trying

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Speaker 4: to arrange races this year, and they all keep falling apart.

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Speaker 1: Why?

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Speaker 4: Because of Donald Trump. They thought in Iowa, Ashley Henson,

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Speaker 4: what a safe bet. Blonde, Republican, she'll be fine. Oh,

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Speaker 4: it's no big deal.

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Speaker 2: And yet, that campaign is falling apart on them because

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Speaker 2: of Trump.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Susan Collins, if Donald Trump's name was Donald Smith and

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Speaker 4: he was a semi-regular Republican, Susan Collins would win by

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Speaker 4: 20 points.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Well, the heating oil, heating oil in Maine is a

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Speaker 1: big fucking issue.

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Speaker 5: That's the diesel.

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Speaker 4: And Canada... Those two things. And frankly, Mike Rogers is

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Speaker 4: going to suffer in Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's like Michigan is.

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Speaker 4: Told by Michigan Republicans now to be at war with Canada,

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Speaker 4: their neighbor and trading partner. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Nobody there is like, oh, yeah, the Canadians are evil. No, no, no.

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Speaker 6: Nobody buys it.

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Speaker 1: You know what we need to talk about now is

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Speaker 1: Roger Marshall.

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Speaker 2: The great state of Kansas.

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Speaker 1: All right. So Roger Marshall, M.D., as you could guess, probably,

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Speaker 1: the New York Times had this incredible reporting which showed

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Speaker 1: the clients who couldn't pay, he sued them and some

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Speaker 1: of them went to jail. These are like impoverished people.

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Speaker 1: And they were paying for gynecological visits and discuss.

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Speaker 2: And he and he.

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Speaker 4: Was his essential position on the thing was. If you

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Speaker 4: can't pay me, I don't care how poor you are,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to use collection agencies that are also going

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Speaker 4: to then sue you to try to take whatever meager

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Speaker 4: property you have.

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Speaker 2: Okay, look, I get it.

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Speaker 4: If you're somebody who's a high-end elective surgeon of some kind.

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Speaker 2: And somebody doesn't pay you, that's one thing.

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Speaker 4: But the fact that this happened hundreds of times with Marshall,

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Speaker 4: it makes it look more like a racket. than just

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Speaker 4: trying to keep your debts collected. And this has not

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Speaker 4: gone well for him. This is not going over well

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Speaker 4: in Kansas because one of the things we talk about, Molly,

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Speaker 4: all the time, a lot of very Republican, very red state,

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Speaker 4: very conservative voters are also people who are on the

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Speaker 4: lower end of the economic spectrum and who understand that story.

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Speaker 4: They know if they get a medical bill for a

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Speaker 4: couple thousand dollars and they can't pay it, They're fucked.

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Speaker 2: They got nothing.

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Speaker 1: And during the debate in Kansas, he tried to explain

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Speaker 1: it to the crowd.

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Speaker 2: When you were explaining, you were losing. Rule one of politics.

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Speaker 1: And it turns out that the crowd started to boo him.

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Speaker 2: The crowd did not love that. That did not go

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Speaker 2: over well with the crowd. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So is Kansas in play? Probably not, but it certainly is.

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Speaker 4: Kansas is the lowest tier in play state for me

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Speaker 4: right now. It is still a tremendously red state. It

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Speaker 4: is a very, very, very, very, very red state. And

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Speaker 4: while Marshall has screwed it up, I don't know that

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Speaker 4: there's enough time left for the collapse to be complete enough.

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Speaker 4: I mean, right now you're starting to see things opening

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Speaker 4: up for the candidates who are going to win. They're

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Speaker 4: opening up a two, three, five point lead. So you're

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Speaker 4: looking at Michigan and you're seeing, I'll say it consistently

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Speaker 4: across every poll. Haven't seen a poll with Mike Rogers

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Speaker 4: ahead yet that I know of. In Kansas, it's still

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Speaker 4: more of a tie ball game. And So it really will... God,

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Speaker 4: these words coming out of my mouth make me cringe,

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Speaker 4: but it's true. It really will be decided on Election

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Speaker 4: Day turnout in Kansas.

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Speaker 1: It's going to come down to turnout.

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Speaker 4: If people are pissed off enough, especially in the farm community,

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Speaker 4: if people are pissed off enough, in the farm community,

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Speaker 4: they're more likely to just stay home and not vote

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Speaker 4: at this point. Every Republican in a state that is

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Speaker 4: an R plus 30 is now vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: And.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's why you saw a poll this week

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Speaker 4: with Angie Nixon tied with Ashley Moody in Florida. David

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Speaker 4: Jolly up again in Florida. John Ossoff in Georgia opening

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Speaker 4: up an even bigger lead against the Klan candidate over there.

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Speaker 4: John Huston in Ohio sucking wind now. And what is

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Speaker 4: it with these Republican candidates who seem to be hiring

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Speaker 4: all these kids with Nazi affiliations?

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Speaker 2: It's a mystery to me. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Where that could have come from. Strange stuff. Rick Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Molly John Fast.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I'll see you soon when I get back from overseas.

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Speaker 1: Johnny Garcia is a former sheriff's deputy and the Democratic

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Speaker 1: nominee for Congress in Texas's 35th District. Welcome, welcome, Johnny Garcia.

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Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much for having me on. It's a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Running for Congress in Texas's 35th District. Tell us about

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Speaker 1: your district.

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Speaker 5: You know, look, this was one of the five seats

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Speaker 5: that were targeted here in Texas, right? This used to

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Speaker 5: be held by Congressman Greg Kassar, but it was targeted

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Speaker 5: during the mid-decade redistricting here in Texas. Initially, it used

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Speaker 5: to run from San Antonio to Austin, but they redrew it.

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Speaker 5: So now it incorporates the vast majority of San Antonio,

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Speaker 5: Bexar County, and then it also has three rural counties

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Speaker 5: right outside of it, Guadalupe, Wilson, and Carnes counties.

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Speaker 6: It's also a majority Latino district.

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Speaker 5: And I don't think they were really understanding when they

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Speaker 5: redrew this map they were doing because they drew in

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Speaker 5: a majority Latino base. And as you know, you got

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Speaker 5: to see a poll that probably came out a day

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Speaker 5: or two ago that shows the vast majority of Latinos

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Speaker 5: are breaking from the party. They're coming back to Democrats

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Speaker 5: because they know that we're offering the prescription to lower costs,

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Speaker 5: make life a little bit more affordable. and make it

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Speaker 5: a little bit more easier to put food on the table,

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Speaker 5: keep your bills paid and keep your vehicles gassed up.

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Speaker 1: I want you to say more about that poll, because

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Speaker 1: what happened, which I think is very interesting, is that

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Speaker 1: Trump wanted a redraw of the map to help him.

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Speaker 1: And so what they did was they redrew the maps

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Speaker 1: with the 2024 numbers. Donald Trump made huge inroads with

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Speaker 1: Latino voters in 2024. Explain to us what you think

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Speaker 1: has happened since then. Less than two years.

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Speaker 6: They sold Latinos on a false promise, right?

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Speaker 5: They campaigned on promises that we would not be engaged

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Speaker 5: in forever wars, that they would immediately reduce costs on

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Speaker 5: day one. And we've gotten to see that backfire at

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Speaker 5: every level, unfortunately. And what has happened is it's fallen

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Speaker 5: on working class families here in Texas. You know, look,

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Speaker 5: we're all about our culture here in San Antonio. And

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Speaker 5: the vast majority of Texans, they just want to be

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Speaker 5: able to afford to make it to Sunday to buy

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Speaker 5: their barbacoa and Big Red. And Molly, I'm not sure

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Speaker 5: if you know what barbacoa and Big Red is, but

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Speaker 5: maybe it's our version of pot roast in a tortilla

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Speaker 5: with some red flash. But here in Texas, it's Big Red.

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Speaker 5: And that means everything to families here in Texas.

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Speaker 1: Look.

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Speaker 5: They did use 2024 maps. Beto O'Rourke performed with 49.8%

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Speaker 5: in this district.

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Speaker 2: Very winnable.

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Speaker 5: And we're starting to see the margins shift a little

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Speaker 5: bit more towards the Democratic Party. Look, they also changed

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Speaker 5: the rating on this district. We just saw with the

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Speaker 5: HMP poll that was just released that we start off

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Speaker 5: in a statistical tie. And through messaging, things tend to

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Speaker 5: change favorably for my campaign. And it's just why I'm

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Speaker 5: so focused on making sure that we're addressing the issues

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Speaker 5: that are affecting everyday Texans, whereas my opponent is continuing

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Speaker 5: to masquerade on some false promise that the economy is fixed.

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Speaker 5: I say, where has the economy been fixed? When you

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Speaker 5: go to the grocery store, things aren't fixed. When you're

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Speaker 5: going to the gas pump, prices aren't going down. And

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Speaker 5: the vast majority of Texans, Latinos know this. And that's

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Speaker 5: why on November 3rd, we're going to get to see

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Speaker 5: folks really come out and vote in droves because this

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Speaker 5: is the change that we're bringing to failure in Washington, D.C.

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Speaker 1: So I would love you to talk about what it's

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Speaker 1: like with ICE right now, because one of the things...

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Speaker 1: we've seen in Florida is that ICE voters who thought

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Speaker 1: that they weren't going to pick them up, who were

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Speaker 1: Latino voters and who have been in this country for

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Speaker 1: a long time. So are you seeing that in Texas

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Speaker 1: and are you hearing that from voters?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we get to see and hear from

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Speaker 5: voters that more so than anything, small business owners. I

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Speaker 5: was visiting some barbecue restaurants to just gauge how much

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Speaker 5: they're hurting from tariffs. And I got to talk to

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Speaker 5: a family that was sitting down for dinner on a

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Speaker 5: Friday night, and they have a church not too far

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Speaker 5: from the restaurant. And they told me that their worship

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Speaker 5: leader was picked up in a traffic stop who had

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Speaker 5: every reason and right to be in America.

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Speaker 2: He was working.

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Speaker 6: He had his documentation.

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Speaker 5: And he was just rounded up in this targeted enforcement.

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Speaker 5: And we know that ICE has a job to do. Look,

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Speaker 5: here in Texas, folks want a strong border. We don't

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Speaker 5: want fentanyl coming across our borders. We don't want cartels

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Speaker 5: to be operating inside of our borders. We don't want

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Speaker 5: the flow of illegal human smuggling from coming across into

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Speaker 5: our country. But The job that they're doing is not

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Speaker 5: going after hardened criminals that are making our streets less safe.

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Speaker 5: They're picking up five-year-old Liam Ramoses and they're putting them

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Speaker 5: inside of a detention center. Jail is absolutely no place

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Speaker 5: for children. But yet we're continuing to see these cases

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Speaker 5: happen time and time again. And look, I am bringing

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Speaker 5: this stark opinion with me to Congress because I have

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Speaker 5: served my community as a sheriff's deputy for nearly two decades.

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Speaker 5: I know how important public safety means to Texas. But

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Speaker 5: what we're seeing right now being carried out is not

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Speaker 5: going after hardened criminals to keep our streets safe. It's

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00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,650
Speaker 5: going after folks. that are working in our panaderias, that

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Speaker 5: are working at our construction sites, that are doing everything

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Speaker 5: that they can to make sure that our economy continues

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Speaker 5: to flow so that when you go into a restaurant,

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Speaker 5: you're not waiting 30, 40 minutes.

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Speaker 6: You're being set. You're getting your food.

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Speaker 5: But unfortunately, this administration, Senate and House Republicans continue to

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Speaker 5: fail us at every level.

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Speaker 1: So you're sheriff's deputy, you were for 20 years. So

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Speaker 1: do you think that there is a law and order

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Speaker 1: section of the Democratic Party that you can appeal to

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Speaker 1: in Texas? And tell us about that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, my campaign is a clear representation that me

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Speaker 5: as a Democrat, I do stand for law and order.

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Speaker 5: We are tough on crime, but we gavel with a conscience.

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Speaker 5: We treat people humanely. We treat people with dignity and respect.

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Speaker 5: We follow our policies and procedures. But unfortunately, We're starting

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Speaker 5: to see things get out of hand, and it's why

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Speaker 5: we need to put some guardrails up in Washington, D.C.,

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Speaker 5: and make sure that we get the checks and balances

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Speaker 5: that Congress should be instituting. But unfortunately, under the leadership

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Speaker 5: of Senate and House Republicans, we're getting to see blank

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Speaker 5: checks being issued to some of these agencies. And we've

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Speaker 5: got to make sure that law enforcement is being held

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Speaker 5: accountable and transparently. You know, it makes no sense that

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Speaker 5: your local law enforcement agency, probably where you live, is

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Speaker 5: being held to a higher standard. The majority of officers

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Speaker 5: serving and protecting and answering your 911 calls are showing

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Speaker 5: up with body worn cameras. They're showing up visible name plates.

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Speaker 5: They're showing up without wearing face masks.

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Speaker 6: These are the basic.

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Speaker 5: Accountability measures that people are asking for to include just

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Speaker 5: being treated humanely, dignity and respect. And this are the

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Speaker 5: same fundamental rules that that I work under as a

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Speaker 5: sheriff's deputy for nearly two decades. And that's why it's

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Speaker 5: so important that we win this race. So we bring

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Speaker 5: this opinion and and these values with me to Congress.

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Speaker 1: Can you talk to us about what you're hearing on

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Speaker 1: the ground? You're talking to voters and you're interfacing with them.

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Speaker 1: What are their big concerns?

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Speaker 6: Prices, prices, prices.

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Speaker 5: You know, I got to speak to some of our

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00:35:37,370 --> 00:35:41,170
Speaker 5: barbecue restaurant owners and they're telling me it's getting harder

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Speaker 5: and harder to put together a plate.

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Speaker 6: And where does that start?

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Speaker 5: It starts with a styrofoam plate that you're serving your

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Speaker 5: brisket on. It's getting tougher and more expensive to put

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Speaker 5: beans on the plate, to put potato salad on the plate.

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Speaker 6: And ultimately, guess what?

687
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Speaker 5: These price hikes fall on the everyday consumer, working class

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00:35:57,660 --> 00:36:00,020
Speaker 5: families that are just looking to have a good meal.

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Speaker 5: When I talk to some of the working class families

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Speaker 5: in this district, they're telling me that they're not able

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Speaker 5: to go to HEB to buy their groceries with the

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Speaker 5: same $ 100 bill that they were going to HEB for

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Speaker 5: this administration took place because they instituted these broad-based tariffs.

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Speaker 6: They're not able to.

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Speaker 5: make sure that they're keeping the lights on, when they're

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Speaker 5: paying their CPS and SALS bills with the wages that

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Speaker 5: they're bringing home. And just like I mentioned to you

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Speaker 5: at the top, they're not able to make it to

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Speaker 5: Sunday to buy their barbacoa and Big Red. They're not

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Speaker 5: able to stop at Bucky's to fill up their gas

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Speaker 5: tanks and still have enough to make it inside with

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Speaker 5: the barbecue sandwich. These are the issues that everyday families

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Speaker 5: are facing. And it's clear as day that my opponent,

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Speaker 5: Carlos de la Cruz, is just running to be another

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00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,739
Speaker 5: yes man for this administration. And we've gotten to see

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Speaker 5: what a Congress full of Senate and House Republican yes

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Speaker 5: men and women have been.

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Speaker 6: It's been higher costs at every level.

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Speaker 1: Are people talking to you about data centers?

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Speaker 5: Data centers are a prevailing issue as well. You know,

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Speaker 5: here in Texas, as you know, water is a scarce resource.

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Speaker 5: And it seems like Senate and House Republicans are just

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Speaker 5: allowing these data centers to come in unchecked regulations. And

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Speaker 5: who does that fall on? Ultimately, the burden falls on

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Speaker 5: the everyday consumers, the people that live in this district.

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Speaker 5: And the vast majority of Texans aren't agreeing with data

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Speaker 5: centers just coming in and pillaging our resources, you know.

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Speaker 6: We don't want to lose the war on technology.

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Speaker 5: We want to make sure that we lead this new

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Speaker 5: front age on technology. But at the same time, we

721
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Speaker 5: need to make sure that we're calling for basic accountability

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Speaker 5: measures and they're not jacking up utility costs for us

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Speaker 5: and they're not.

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Speaker 6: Wasting all of our water resources.

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Speaker 5: So there definitely has to be some sort of check

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Speaker 5: on these data centers. And it's why I'm focused on

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Speaker 5: the folks here in this district, again, rather than my opponent,

728
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,030
Speaker 5: who's bought and sold by big tech and AI.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that I've noticed anecdotally is that

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Speaker 1: there are not as many MAGA signs and flags. Have

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Speaker 1: you noticed that where you are? And if so, do

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Speaker 1: you get Trump regret voters?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're seeing, you mentioned it, right?

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Speaker 5: I think we got to hear buyer's remorse for quite

735
00:38:11,050 --> 00:38:15,140
Speaker 5: some time during this congressional run. But people are having

736
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,940
Speaker 5: voters regret for what they voted into office, right?

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Speaker 6: They wanted lower costs. They wanted stronger borders.

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Speaker 5: They didn't want higher costs, unaffordable health care, this big,

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00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:29,029
Speaker 5: ugly bill that is threatening to close rural hospitals.

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Speaker 6: And the list goes on and on. And you mentioned it.

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Speaker 5: When I'm driving in this district, it's very rare if

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00:38:35,010 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 5: I do see a MAGA flag waving. We don't get

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Speaker 5: to see all the signs that we were seeing maybe

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Speaker 5: in 2024. We know that Democrats got it wrong on

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Speaker 5: the border, that Democrats didn't pay enough attention to folks

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Speaker 5: here in Texas. But things have changed and you always

747
00:38:51,060 --> 00:38:54,620
Speaker 5: have the opportunity to change. And it's why we remain steadfast,

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00:38:54,660 --> 00:38:58,070
Speaker 5: focused and laser focused. on the everyday issues of Texans

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Speaker 5: that this party has completely gotten out of touch with

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Speaker 5: on the Republican side.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about Abbott? And is he popular?

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Speaker 1: What about Paxton?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, look, we've gotten to see on March 3rd in

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Speaker 5: the initial primary with our top of the ticket candidates, right?

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Speaker 5: You had Tallarico on our side and you had Paxton

756
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Speaker 5: and Cornyn on their side. And Democrats in this district

757
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:25,180
Speaker 5: still outvoted Republicans, especially in a district that they redrew

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00:39:25,410 --> 00:39:29,009
Speaker 5: to specifically favor themselves, thinking that this was just going

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00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 5: to be an unchecked contest in this race. And we're

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00:39:32,140 --> 00:39:35,620
Speaker 5: getting to see this backfire on them. This gerrymander is

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00:39:35,660 --> 00:39:38,529
Speaker 5: turning into a dummymander. Again, with our top of the

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Speaker 5: ticket candidate, we know that they're going to drive out

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Speaker 5: folks that are tired of failure from Abbott and Paxton

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Speaker 5: that are at the top of their tickets. They've had

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Speaker 5: 30 years to get things in check to help us

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00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,819
Speaker 5: out here in Texas. But it's clear as day that

767
00:39:55,940 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 5: they're sold to their billionaire donors and they're catering for

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Speaker 5: the 1% while the rest of us, the 99% here

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Speaker 5: in Texas, we're hurting. And it's why I'm so focused

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Speaker 5: to make sure that we win this race so we

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Speaker 5: could actually serve the people. I say in law enforcement,

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Speaker 5: representation should reflect the community it serves. And it's clear

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Speaker 5: that Abbott and the Republican ticket is not reflect of

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Speaker 5: the vast majority of Texans here in this district, Congressional

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Speaker 5: District 35.

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Speaker 1: So costs are big, which makes sense because that's what

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Speaker 1: we hear from everyone. What are the other issues, the

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Speaker 1: ICE raids, data centers? Is there anything else you're seeing

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Speaker 1: in your race that cost of like I interviewed a

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Speaker 1: representative from Maine who was talking about the cost of

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Speaker 1: heating oil is a big one?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 6: The price of beef.

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Speaker 2: Clearly, right?

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Speaker 5: We got to see when they wanted to experiment importing

786
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Speaker 5: beef just a couple of days ago. It completely backfired.

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Speaker 5: And by doing that, you're also hurting Texas cattle ranchers.

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Speaker 5: And you got to see the vast majority of cattle

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Speaker 5: ranchers get angry with this experiment. While they turn their

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00:41:07,850 --> 00:41:11,299
Speaker 5: back on Texas cattle ranchers, it's doing nothing for the

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00:41:11,380 --> 00:41:14,780
Speaker 5: industry here. But also, we're still not seeing the immediate

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Speaker 5: relief thought it was going to bring health care.

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Speaker 1: Say more about the imported beef. What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: So they took the beef. It made beef cheaper or now?

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Speaker 5: That was the intention, right? You know, it was going

796
00:41:26,910 --> 00:41:29,270
Speaker 5: to it was supposed to be an immediate relief. It

797
00:41:29,290 --> 00:41:31,850
Speaker 5: was supposed to be a shot in the arm. But ultimately,

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Speaker 5: it was just another blow to Texas cattle ranchers here

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Speaker 5: that isn't supporting anybody to include our barbecue restaurants. We're

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Speaker 5: now seeing barbecue restaurants start to push more of the

801
00:41:44,380 --> 00:41:47,370
Speaker 5: other items that they have on their menu because brisket

802
00:41:47,410 --> 00:41:48,810
Speaker 5: has risen tremendously.

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Speaker 1: So it didn't lower costs at all. It hasn't.

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Speaker 2: It hasn't.

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Speaker 5: We've gotten to see all of the basic essentials rise up, right?

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00:41:55,930 --> 00:41:58,890
Speaker 5: Since the start of this war, gas has risen up

807
00:41:58,989 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 5: over $ 1. 07. Ground beef has risen up. And the list

808
00:42:03,820 --> 00:42:06,620
Speaker 5: goes on and on. But, you know, going back to

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Speaker 5: some of the issues... Healthcare remains unaffordable. When I talked

810
00:42:10,620 --> 00:42:12,779
Speaker 5: to some of the folks in this district, I got

811
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Speaker 5: to meet an individual who told me that before the

812
00:42:15,739 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 5: ACA subsidies lapsed, he was paying $ 75 for his COPD medication.

813
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 5: When the subsidies lapsed, he went from paying $ 75 to

814
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Speaker 5: $ 200 a month. for that medication. And he said, Johnny,

815
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Speaker 5: I just have to stop and discontinue it. And I

816
00:42:29,070 --> 00:42:32,390
Speaker 5: was using that medication to fight my chronic illness. And

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Speaker 5: these are the.

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Speaker 6: Realities that Texas families are facing.

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Speaker 5: You know, my sister went from paying $ 100 for her

820
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Speaker 5: health insurance to $ 200 per paycheck.

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Speaker 6: And she's a single mother.

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Speaker 5: And I know the vast majority of folks are also

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Speaker 5: experiencing these harsh realities, especially in a state that is

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Speaker 5: the largest uninsured state in America. Health care is important

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00:42:53,730 --> 00:42:56,050
Speaker 5: to folks here and we have to make it affordable

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Speaker 5: because so many folks depend on it.

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Speaker 1: So Paxton is running for Senate, but he was impeached

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Speaker 1: by You talk to voters who are very to date

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Speaker 1: with things. You talk to voters who are in very

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Speaker 1: rural areas where they may not get the news the

831
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Speaker 1: same way. Are people read in on the Paxton situation?

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Speaker 1: And so what is their take?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 5: They read it as he's the most corrupt politician that's running.

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Speaker 5: You know, here in Texas, folks, we're just common sense, right?

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Speaker 5: We believe firmly that if it walks like a duck,

837
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Speaker 5: it talks like a duck.

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Speaker 6: Guess what? It's a duck.

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Speaker 5: And people see corruption being played out in its highest form.

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Speaker 5: And it's why folks just aren't willing to vote for

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Speaker 5: this guy. And it's why we're running to make sure

842
00:43:40,850 --> 00:43:43,049
Speaker 5: that we're going to root out corruption. Look, what I

843
00:43:43,090 --> 00:43:45,469
Speaker 5: didn't get to is coming out of high school, I

844
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:48,630
Speaker 5: worked construction and plumbing while going through college. And then

845
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Speaker 5: I joined the sheriff's office where I worked in the jail.

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Speaker 5: And then I also served as a SWAT hostage negotiator.

847
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Speaker 5: So when I'm meeting folks in the district, they tell me, Johnny,

848
00:43:56,300 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 5: we need construction work in Congress to go up to D.C.

849
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Speaker 5: to fix this system that is broken and isn't working

850
00:44:02,420 --> 00:44:04,900
Speaker 5: for working class families. They say, We need a plumber

851
00:44:05,060 --> 00:44:07,469
Speaker 5: to go to Congress and drain the swamp that Senate

852
00:44:07,489 --> 00:44:10,469
Speaker 5: and House Republicans have allowed and festered into a cesspool.

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Speaker 6: They say we need a sheriff's.

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00:44:12,290 --> 00:44:14,910
Speaker 5: Deputy to go to Congress to root out the corruption

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Speaker 5: that we continue to see by Paxton and his other

856
00:44:17,410 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 5: billionaire cronies. But if you ask me, we're going to

857
00:44:20,140 --> 00:44:22,500
Speaker 5: need a SWAT hostage negotiator to go up to Congress

858
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Speaker 5: to end this standoff with Senate and House Republicans who

859
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Speaker 5: continue to hold our economy and democracy hostage.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It was great to

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Speaker 1: have you.

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Speaker 6: No, thank you.

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Speaker 2: And now your moment of fuckery.

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Speaker 1: Rick Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Molly.

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Speaker 1: We have a special international moment of fuckery.

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Speaker 4: So while Trump is over in the UK, he's this

868
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Speaker 4: morning defending Putin, saying, oh, well, it's Zelensky's fault because

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Speaker 4: Zelensky's hitting things in Russia for diesel fuel.

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Speaker 2: And that's why we're doing, Russia's doing all these things.

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Speaker 4: Well, I want to hear why Trump won't come out

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Speaker 4: and condemn the fact that Russia hit a train with

873
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Speaker 4: former UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson on it with a drone.

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Speaker 4: Johnson survived, got out of the train. But I don't know,

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Speaker 4: when you're drone striking Western leaders and the president of

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Speaker 4: the U.S. won't say a word about it, you know

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Speaker 4: that Donald Trump is, as always, Putin's bitch.

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Speaker 1: So Rick is talking about a moment where Boris Johnson

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Speaker 1: was on a train near the border of Poland and

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Speaker 1: it was attacked by drones. I'm looking at video of

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Speaker 1: the train right now. It looks really scary and bad.

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Speaker 4: He's very lucky to have escaped. But again, this is

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Speaker 4: Trump's team doing this to people who are Western leaders.

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Speaker 2: Trump's team is doing this.

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Speaker 1: Crazy, crazy, crazy.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Rick Wilson, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Molly Drunk Fast. See you soon.

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