WEBVTT - The Nutty Confessor (with Jonathan Giles) 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:04.400 You leave me in a room with peanuts per a week, 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:09.280 I'm gonna make a peanut butter up in the It's 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:14.120 not put that to the time. So also, now knowing 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:18.120 the ingredients, that shouldn't take you a week. Yeah, it's well, 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:22.560 I wouldn't turn all the other stuff he did. Yeah, 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:27.880 in twenty twenty three, you're life still just just escaping 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:34.360 it until it turns into peanut butter. Cheering. Gotta get 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:41.080 it wet, Peter, what you want? You want to smooth? 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:44.839 Come a big girl, I would you want? I appreciate 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:47.400 you think I would have a woman in there with me. Oh, well, 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.400 you know I would, hope. So you're you're never alone, 0:00:50.440 --> 0:01:10.360 my man, You're never chips in yours. Ask me racists, money, 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:19.200 monitary stuff. I can't tell me. I want to let 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.399 let lick you from your head to your toes. That's 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:25.560 right there, It is there. It is. Ladies and gentlemen, 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:29.440 Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:34.160 The Podcast. It dives deep into the pockets of black 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:38.560 conspiracy theories and we finally work to prove that the 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:43.480 Whinies and the Wayans are just the original descendants of 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.960 Cain and Abel. This is the way that that family 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:50.720 truth split. It is. It is two warring families just 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:54.280 trying to make more and more people for their ultimate 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:57.760 battle face off. I love it, and it begs the question, 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:05.640 am I my Wayans keeper? I will say that if 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:08.680 it's the Cane Enables story, the Waves are definitely cane 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:15.880 if I right, I think can Yeah, Yeah, they seem more, 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:19.799 they seem like they would stab Yeah, they're gonna be 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.120 a lot more stabby, I think. And the Waves just 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:26.200 feel like they followed more rules. Yeah. The Windings. Yeah, 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:28.880 so you can't even give them because of the same 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.760 it's all the same group. It's just gonna ask you 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:33.400 this and this is a safe space, so if you 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:37.200 don't mind my asking. Mario he's a Whinings, right, because 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.000 then he start out going by Mario Winans and then 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.200 he was like, hey, I'm just it's a me Mario 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:47.240 and then no, no, no no, no, Mario Winans and Mario 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:51.800 uh just a friend. Part two. They're two different people. 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.399 That's that's two different dudes. Mario Windings his light skin 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:59.840 and baldhead and oh yeah he kind of looks at 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.560 more Chico dabar Jish for shots and that's I feel 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.399 this is embarrassing. Yeah, I thought it was the same 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:09.280 guy because it's like Mario, why didn't he just say? 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.240 And then I thought he was like maybe jealous, like 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:15.440 he was like, BBCC don't want to be doing this 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:18.399 remix with Gucci Mane, so I'll just be Mario. Yeah, 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.680 he's like, I just want to branch out on my own. 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:25.000 My family's back from my my greatest success. Yeah. No, 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.440 I don't think he's related to that. I don't think 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:29.959 that Mario is related to the wine into it all 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:32.280 all right, And for everybody out there judging me, don't 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.960 fucking judge me, because you all have that family ship 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:38.800 that you fucked up to. Tatiana Ali was Mohammed ali 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:42.880 saughter for a minute. For a minute, don't fucking judge me. 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:47.240 You're not better than You're not better than him. Well 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:50.240 you know who is better than you? It's our guest today. 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:58.160 He's a very hilarious comedian. He runs a fantastic show 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:02.280 here in Los ange Li called Black Mitzvah. I had 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.880 the pleasure of doing it very recently and I had 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:08.560 a grand old time. He's hilarious. Were really happy, Easier 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:16.560 give it up for our guests. Mister Jonathan Jile, Hell yeah, 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:19.040 I would have said other things, but you demanded I 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:23.680 shut the fuck up. Listen. They didn't. Those other things 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.320 didn't pay me enough to be talked about on my office. 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:30.440 Fair enough. Can I jump back to the wine please 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:35.280 real quick. They had a boy band group that I do. 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:39.120 It was like wine ands five, I want to say, 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:48.680 or wine asked niggers. Yeah, it was so My mom 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:59.160 used to call ch Somebody says that at like the 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:07.680 family down shuts down the party, Wine is five, more 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:11.760 like five wine and as niggas, And then a lady 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:19.880 throws her potato salad because she's laughing too hard. I didn't, wait, 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.760 what's it this Christian supergroup that it was a Christian Yeah, 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:24.839 it was like a Christian army, like it was during 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.320 that time when like all the all these artists were 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.320 like Christian and decided they were gonna try to get 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.200 on that way. Yeah. I'm not saying that's what they 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.600 were doing, but I mean they definitely were the religious 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:38.640 one twelve like just sweater veasts. I'll say this, not 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:42.120 only do I remember them, I had that CD and I, Oh, 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.479 I fucked with it. It was Yeah for sure, that 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:49.320 ship banged and like you knew they were singing about Jesus, 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.000 but you could pretend they weren't, you know what I mean, 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:56.400 Like the songs hit body roll ye just like enough 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.640 for you be like, you gotta give me a timeline. 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.560 Is this like pre or post soul for real? This 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.760 is uh post soul for real? This is like in 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:09.200 the early early two thousands. Oh like right at the 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.880 crack of the two thousands, we're getting a Whinings group 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:18.640 comprised of mostly like the sons and nephews of like 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:24.599 bbmcc and they it was just five dudes just killing it. Baby. 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:28.760 They no, I'm googling it right now. Yeah, Like I 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:30.719 feel like if they came out now, like people would 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.560 really people would really like fun with them, Like yeah, no, 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:37.039 they were, they were they were legit, but okay, we 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.720 we can't. Sorry, that's my bad. Yea, we're talking about it. 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:41.480 I got excited. Oh that's good, that's good. That's how 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:44.120 he likes to do it. Yeah, O, Whinings Phase two 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:47.080 is what they were called. There you go, yeah, Phase 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.440 two and and that because you're like, I don't remember 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:57.760 phase one and they weren't crazy. I fucked with them heavy. Uh. 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.000 But we can't talk about that forever because you can't 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:03.680 aim to us with a conspiracy theory that when you 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.200 told me this, we we You actually told me this 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.800 in person, And when you told me this, it took 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.720 everything in my being not to smack you in the face. 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:15.000 I was furious at what you said. I was. I 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.600 couldn't have been more rageful at the suggestion that you 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:22.560 were making. And I won't. I won't precious this any 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:24.880 longer because I just need to get to this and 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.920 I need you to answer for your crimes. But you said, 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:34.239 my mama told me George Washington Carver did not invent 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:41.040 peanut butter. Yeah, I'm sorry to have that you had 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:44.320 to have that sort of vesceral reaction. Well, I'm sorry 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:49.960 that you hate black but he did it. I don't know. 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.160 I don't know how to tell you guys any different. 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:56.800 But he also started singing, yeah, you hate you hate 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.800 black people, and I need to know why. I'm kind 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.840 of I'm trying to I'm trying to listen man, like that. 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:04.960 When I when I was doing I found that out 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.720 maybe like a couple of years ago, I was doing 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:12.480 some independent research about peanut butter or George Washington Department. Yeah, 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.200 there's no shaming. I was. There's no shaming. I was. 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:22.280 I think there might be some shame. Educate education, college 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:25.559 is power. I want to say. It was like during 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:27.760 a Black History Month. Every Black History Month, I try 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:33.840 to like learn something new, and so when I when 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:37.280 I stumbled upon this information, it blew my mind. It 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.040 took me out for like a good week. I didn't 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:40.600 know what to do. I didn't talk to nobot. Okay, 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.640 And and when you stumbled upon this, did you feel like, 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.880 because here's where I take issue, Maybe you're right right, 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:53.040 Maybe maybe he's George Washington Colver didn't invent peanut butter. 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.480 Do you guys feel like this upset? I just want 0:08:56.520 --> 0:09:01.000 I'm I'm not just upset, I'm I'm raging. Hand behind 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:05.760 you is flickering in a strange plan. It's getting hotter 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:10.000 because of me because I'm so angry. But I'm saying, 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:13.440 at any point, did you go for the sanctity of 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:16.760 black people for the protection of my own people's. I 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:20.680 will keep this information private. I won't spread this around 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:26.120 town as slander against one of our greatest I'll stuff 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:31.200 it down because that's my responsibility to the black man. Well, like, 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.440 so it's funny you said that, because for a hot 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.360 minute I did feel that way. For a minute, I 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.240 was like trying to go to every website. There's there's 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:40.680 websites out there where they actually tell you where pinut 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:44.040 butter was invented and like the rise of it, and 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:45.560 so I was on there just sort of like how 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.640 do I scrub all this? Like yeah, yeah. But then 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.560 I started thinking about it because like once you like 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.160 dig into it and you find out like it was 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:57.040 created by this indigenous tribe and then it was patented 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:59.600 by white man. I was like, oh no, we need 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.640 we need to let people know that the white man 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:10.360 is out there. Still from other people know you're right, 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:13.679 but in my mind I was like, it was like 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.400 oh shit. So like George Washington Carver did so many 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.800 great things with peanuts, but he just didn't get to this. 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:23.240 Jonathan was like, hey, have y'all heard that white people 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:29.120 aren't good? It turns out it turns out they're not 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:33.360 that nice. Every every February I just go and I 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.880 find out that white people are Okay. I can I 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:39.760 say about this one? This is interesting because I had 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.200 never Yeah, even as a kid, I had always just 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:45.800 the same being George Washington many peanut butter, you know, 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:47.599 bluck guy, even in the Super So Girl and to 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.720 stop like it was just like one of the ones 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:52.840 on the list. But now I'm thinking about it. Just 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.800 being from West Africa, they make this thing called granut stew, 0:10:56.920 --> 0:11:00.720 which is just like the grunuts are what they called peanuts, 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.880 and it's just basically peanut butter and soup. But they've 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:07.280 been doing it forever. I'm pretty sure, Like, yes, sir, 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:11.480 peanuts didn't start here. And I'm saying, like peanut as 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:14.840 far as having peanuts and inventor venting peanut butter, I 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.640 don't want to be that guy not fucking rocket science, 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:22.040 all right, Yeah, but okay, I guess that I had 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:25.800 never considered Bori to that point. This it is a 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:29.760 very American argument to suggest that a dude in the 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:34.920 late eighteen hundreds, super late eighteen hundreds somehow invented this 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:38.480 thing that that feels like it should have been around 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:43.200 for millennia. Like it's not an insane concept, it's not 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:45.320 flaming hot, you know what I mean? Like this is 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:51.440 this is fucking peanut butter, because that is concept. That's upset. 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:55.440 What if someone during the time of George Washing Carver 0:11:55.600 --> 0:12:00.839 did invent flaming Now that's like that they're not ready. 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:05.200 We have to unload this peanut butter first. I got 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.480 so many ideas for Penus. He's like no, no, no, brother, 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:11.880 first the peanut butter, then the flaming hot flats phase too. 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:22.720 That's the family secret. Fuck if the Windings are secretly 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:27.800 behind the flaming opp sports, Oh wow, that's crazy. That's 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:31.760 cute because and it makes sense. TD Jakes is secretly 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:35.880 behind Shade Room like it's not where it's not. That's 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:43.000 very real. Apparently the tdhop Tjas Bishop T. D Jakes. Yeah, 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:48.800 not skateboarder TD Jakes, Bishop T. D Jakes is. Apparently 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:55.240 his family is like partial, if not like majority, owners 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:59.720 of the Shade Room. Wow, an empire that could truly 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:04.040 be worth way more, way less than I estimate. I 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:06.800 don't know. I don't know how much the Shade Room is. 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.520 I don't know. It's probably way it's probably way less. 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:14.320 They're good marketing. It feels like it should be a 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:18.200 billion dollar corporation based off of how like popular it 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.200 is so I gotta assume it is far from whatever 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:24.560 that is. Yeah, I don't think they're gonna hit that assessment. No, 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:28.280 that shame on you. The Shade Room. I see you 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:31.320 as often as the New York Times, and somehow I'm 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:36.880 gonna be honest, probably more. Yeah, I don't you remember 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:41.000 pandemic The time's got real heavy handed. The Shade Room 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:46.880 did not know The Shade Room stay true to their ship. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:51.559 it does feel like a very American thing to presume that, 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.200 uh that peanut butter started here. Well, bo, you just 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:56.959 made like a good a good comment, like a thing 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:00.160 that I've been thinking about, like because you said, like, yeah, 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.600 a black person event, the Super Soccer, a black person event, 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:04.680 the traffic light. But I have a question. Do you 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:07.640 know who they are? Oh? I could pick the Super 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:10.760 Socer guy out of a lineup. I remember seeing him 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:18.160 in in Lonnie isn't Lonnie Johnson? Okay, I thought it 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:26.640 was actually Tristan Walker. Do you remember Black Enterprises Magazine? No? 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:33.480 I don't remember that. Yeah, we had it, we have, 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.880 Like you know how you would have like one episode 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.280 of magazine anybody who was broken? You remember how you 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:40.720 would have like one episode of a magazine in your 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:44.680 house that you didn't no one hit ordered or anything like. Yeah, 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.160 that was back when magazines used to send you shit 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:51.160 on spec like that would just be like, uh, hey 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.600 you want Yeah, you wanna go ahead read one of 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:55.480 these and then you'd be like, I do want this, 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.200 and you'd send them thirty dollars or whatever the fuck 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:01.680 it is. Yeah, exactly. That that's we had. We had 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.960 an episode, we had one of those, and it was 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.600 it had this picture of Lonnie Johnson, which I'm going 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.160 brought to you by Chlorine guys, but it's like a 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:15.240 famous picture because it's like him in the prototype. Yeah, 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.800 he's a cool looking brother man. M like the sweater 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:22.840 and the glasses. Yeah, no, he's got it. Yeah. But 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.040 I think that I think that's the other thing, like 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:29.040 because you like, like all the all the stuff we're 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.600 learning as kids. Man, Like, I like, where I grew up, 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.640 it was just George Washing Carver, George Washington Carver, but 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.120 we weren't really taught about anyone else. So the fact 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:40.480 that George Washington Carver and Peanut Butter was like sort 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.800 of forced down our throats pun intended or whatever. Like 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:46.720 you're like Oh no, there's a lot of other great 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:49.760 things that black people have done. But why did why 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:51.880 did this get pushed to the flight? It was almost 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.600 like you know, people were like, yeah, let's give him 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.800 peanut butter. They'll be okay with right, don't be happy 0:15:56.840 --> 0:16:00.320 with that because nobody, yeah, nobody really care. Which is 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:02.720 now that I'm thinking about it, how come the stop 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:07.920 like guy wasn't first? Okay? Not or the there's a 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.480 there's a black guy who like helped figure out how 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.760 to do blood transfusion, transfusions or whatever, like was like 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:17.600 really montumental, Charles Drew Drew, Charles, I'm maybe getting that wrong, 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:19.800 that's but this is my point, Like, yeah, why was 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.760 peanutbutter first? Why was that so monument even first? Of 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:26.520 what he did? Yeah, because he in reading about him, 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:30.680 he came up with three hundred different uses of the 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:34.880 peanut butter of peanuts, some of which were like real, legitimate, 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:39.120 like medical things. It wasn't just like fucking you know 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:41.320 what I mean, numb numbs. All I ever heard was 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:46.880 butter and brittle. Yeah. Yeah, I will say I've never 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:52.720 considered the possibility that pushing George Washington Carver like forward, 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:56.320 like making him very front facing with like this reduced 0:16:56.520 --> 0:17:00.560 role as just Peanut butter Man might be in intentional 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:05.720 and frankly attacking the black the black person. That's how 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.280 that's how I feel. I feel like they wanted just 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.360 to sort of be like, you guys got Martin Luther 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:13.919 King and then you got the Peanut butter Man, and 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:16.000 you guys should be okay, yeah you've been you may 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:18.720 just get this, get these twenty eight days out there. Yeah, 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:23.400 you mad, you make great entertainment. Here's the super socer guy. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:27.520 everything's silly billy ship with y'all are a really good speaker, 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.760 but it's not a isn't he articulate type shit? But 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:35.360 it's never somebody that like truly outthought y'all out fucking 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:39.359 like maneuvered on you. Yeah for sure. No, that's a 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:46.480 good point. They give all the flashy inventions up. Mmmmmm yeah. 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:49.960 Fuck all right, Well, maybe I need maybe I need 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.280 a moment to gather myself because this this is heavy. 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:57.000 I never considered some of these possibilities. So maybe here's 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:58.920 what we'll do. We'll take a break. We're gonna take 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.240 a break. We'll be back when more. Jonathan Johnathon More, 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:14.000 my mama told me, how did all of this travel began? 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:21.639 Living in America? Welcome back to my mom. So I 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:24.680 forgot that Legson wasn't gonna talk. We are here talking 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.439 about George Washington Carver and not the idea of it 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:31.280 he's a fraud, but that they've minimized his place in 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:34.480 the history books because it seems like of all the 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:38.600 things he does, peanut butter is by far the least interesting. Yeah. 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:41.440 I think he's done a lot of cool shit that 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:46.639 that peanut butter is overshadowing. And furthermore, I think, based 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:51.399 on Jonathan your suggestion, it seems as though this is 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:56.000 not George Washington Carver, who like went out and was like, yeah, 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:59.000 I'm peanut Butter daddy. Now call me miss a peanut Butter. 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:02.960 It was the white man who did that to him. 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:05.840 I feel like, if anything, George was probably can I 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.640 call him, I'll call him mister Carr. Yeah, mister Carr. 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:13.080 I think I think you better. Mister Carver probably like, hey, guys, 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:15.440 you know, no, guys, actually that wasn't me. But he 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:19.240 kept like people just kept saying like peanut butter. He 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:21.600 was just like a fuck it I get like he didn't. 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.280 He didn't like that. It almost feels like a real 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:28.160 scientist would you like, yeah, no exactly. He was like, Yo, 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:30.040 I could do, I could do. Look what I can 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:32.840 do with these peanuts. Have a laboratory for peanut butter. 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:35.879 I have a lab. You think I just smashed some nuts, right, 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:37.560 I'm not. I don't work in the back of a 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:42.800 fucking Delhi, you idiot. I got I got colleges name. 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:47.520 Yeah you think they did that because of Jeff to 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:51.600 Peter Pant No, yeah, I It does feel almost as 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:54.160 at this point is if peanut butter was like a 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:57.560 slur that they whipped out where he'd be like, hey, y'all, 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:01.000 I invented a new serum made from the peanut oil 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.560 that can do blah blah blah, and they're like, shut up, 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:06.040 peanut butter. And then and then he had to just 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:08.840 eat that. You know what I mean? Yeah, you fucking 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:13.520 peanut butter. And then that was his whole personality to everybody. 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:16.040 If if he ever was like at a conference, they 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:18.720 probably he always would give them credits, so they were like, no, 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:21.800 they don't care about yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:27.679 I'm Yeah, he's like Ted talks, man, wait first and 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:30.919 foremost before we get too deep. So who was the originator? 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:33.480 You said you found out who started it? Was like 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:37.320 so like it was a peanut paste, I guess, and 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:39.480 I want to say it was the aspects. I may 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:43.400 be wrong, but oh it started on this continent, according 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:47.280 to the National Peanut Board, which feels like the most 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:50.240 legitimate source I could get this from first of us 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:54.840 on the Nutboard always, and I pray they don't vote 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:58.119 him out this year. He's he's been doing good all 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:04.240 the time. He's getting loose with the scholarship money. But 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:07.399 according to the National Peanut Board, the first appearance of 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:10.160 peanut butter can actually be traced back to the ancient 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:16.160 Incas and the Aztecs, who ground roasted peanuts into a paste. 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:20.440 So they did a paste originally, and then I guess 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:24.080 it evolved, so I guess technically this continent, but not 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:27.200 in a way that that Americans can be proud of, 0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:30.880 you know what I mean. So then so they made 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:34.840 that down there, but it didn't travel obviously, or it did, 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.159 but it didn't travel in a way where anybody was 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:41.760 like attempting to yeah, monetize it. They were just like, oh, 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:44.640 this is a thing that regular people do, whatever the fuck, 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:48.399 and then out of nowhere this dude, and it's you know, 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:52.160 a long time in between, but this dude in eighteen 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:57.880 eighty four, Marcellus Gilmour Edson whiter than you think of Canada. 0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:03.840 You know, Marcellis feels like it could be uh yeah, 0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:10.320 fair enough trumpet. Uh. He patented this peanut paste and 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:14.840 then finished uh oh, the finished product by milling roasts 0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:20.080 roasted peanuts between two heated surfaces. Okay, that sounds like 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:22.040 a lot of work. And then what so what did 0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:26.320 Carver do exactly? So, Carver, I guess, never really fucked 0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:29.240 with peanut butter like that. He just was doing other 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:36.119 stuff with peanuts. And then we attributed this invention to him. Again, 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:39.040 I think as a weapon more than as the the 0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:42.520 gift of what he actually did. And I do take issue. 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:44.960 I think this is where I start to have issues 0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:48.200 with some of the uh, the white lens of all 0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:52.120 of this shit is that they give. Basically, they these 0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:56.480 articles are like, did you know, Mark, uh, George Washington, 0:22:56.560 --> 0:23:01.359 Carver didn't actually invent peanut butter. The real inventor was 0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:06.960 Marcellus Gilmore Edison in eighteen eighty four because he patented it. 0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:10.600 And it's like, that's not no, that ain't it. He 0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:13.840 didn't fight it. Yeah, that's not. You think the first 0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:16.040 person who got to the pattent office was the first 0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:18.879 one to do it. Yeah, get the fuck out. Spend 0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:22.560 a whole day talking about everything black people invented that 0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:25.880 they didn't patent. Yeah, I honestly, they say al Gore 0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:28.520 invented the Internet. I think it was a Mexican dude 0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:31.040 stealing cable that crossed the wrong wires. And now the 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:33.400 whole neighborhood had porn Hub, you know what I mean? Like, 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:36.160 I don't. I don't even think a very interesting view 0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:41.359 of how the Internet works, like your first like my 0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:45.800 first time in the Internet, the first time, I think. 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:49.240 But if you press two audi courts together at the 0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:52.360 right angle, you get porn Hub. That's oh man, I 0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:55.800 was looking at Geocity. Yeah, I'm pretty sure my first 0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:59.280 Internet website was like cash Money Millionaires dot com or 0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:01.680 something like that. Yeah. No, I wasn't on port Hope. 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:06.720 You know. I'm just like, yeah, I'm a regular guy 0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:15.240 like everybody else. But so so they give credit to 0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:18.840 March Settler's for this thing and then but he battened 0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:22.560 it but then didn't move into production or anything like that. Well, 0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:25.280 I guess he was selling it in a way that 0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:29.320 like it was probably more localized at that point. Yeah, 0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:31.840 he wasn't necessarily like big timing it. But then in 0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:36.520 eighteen ninety five, doctor John Harvey Kellogg, the creator of 0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:40.200 Kellogg Cereal. Oh, I know a lot about this guy. Actually. Okay, 0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:43.280 hell yeah, tell me what you know. Let's start there. Oh, 0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:45.720 him and his brother, it was a whole feud. So 0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:48.680 he was a very well known in Massachusetts, right is 0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:51.560 where he's from. It's like a very well biggest they 0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:57.399 all mission. Yeah, because one of the Yeah, you just 0:24:57.400 --> 0:24:59.159 said you know a lot about this guys. No, no, 0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:02.440 I'm just standing. He had no he had a retreat 0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:05.560 where he had invented breakfast cereal as like a health treatment, 0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:09.000 and his brother was a lot more ambitious and was like, 0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:11.200 we should go to market with this, and he didn't 0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:13.320 want to. He just wanted to keep it as a 0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:20.760 health food for his patience. At someone happened it was 0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:24.680 like granola, right, Yeah, I think it was. My understanding 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:28.520 is it was completely unsweetened before that. It was just 0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:32.560 like at the time, breakfast wasn't even a real thing, 0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:36.080