1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: It is a Football Friday Week three edition and the 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: challenge is a big one this week. Welcome Bird Gang. 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: On today's show, Zach Gershman joins me, they are maybe 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: the best team in football right now. They are the 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys and they visit State Farm Stadium on Sunday. 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: We give our thoughts on the matchup, plus head into 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: enemy Territory to get that side of the matchup first though. 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: Another Kyler Murray updates. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode six 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: seventy six and it starts now. 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 3: Buda Baker, What Heart? 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: What rent? 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable. 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Azycardinals 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: dot com Slash podcasts. 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 3: He's a a ten half of five. He's it again? 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: So far hurry chick? Whoa here's Craig Griolut. 19 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: So we know Kyler Murray will not play this week, 20 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: but Kyler Murray has been in the news this week. 21 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: Has been in the news a lot this week. He 22 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: has been posting a lot on social media, kind of 23 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: giving fans a glimpse behind the scenes on his recovery 24 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: from ACL surgery. So the obvious follow up to that 25 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: on Friday, Zach was to ask the head coach, Jonathan Cannon, 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: about Kyler Murray. And we learned something. Actually a couple 27 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: of different things, but we learned something about the head 28 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: coach one and this is not a surprise. Doesn't quite 29 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: follow social media, he doesn't have the time for it. 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: But he joked, quote, I have an iPhone two. I 31 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: was like, wow, okay, so that is that's going back 32 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: a ways. You have an iPhone too. I believe I've 33 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: got an iPhone shoot. I don't even know what mine is, 34 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: twelve or two whatever exactly. I don't use it to call. 35 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: I use it for everything else but pick it up 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: phone and calling everyone. But yeah, Jonathan Gannon just and 37 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: that's again it's not a surprise, but the fact that 38 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: he's got to set it again an iPhone two. 39 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: I don't believe it. 40 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: I don't believe it. 41 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 3: And here's why I don't believe it, Kyler Murray said 42 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 3: explicitly into TikTok, I'm itching to get back out there. 43 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: What did JG said when he was on the podium 44 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: quote Kyler is itching to get back out there. I 45 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: don't think that that was a coincidence by any stretch 46 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 3: of the imagination. But hey, maybe JG's iPhone two actually 47 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 3: like speaks to the future. 48 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, all right, you might be onto something there, 49 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: because I actually did look it up. There was never 50 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: an iPhone two made. I mean, the iPhone debuted, as 51 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: I look here on my iPhone, but it's used for 52 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: debuted in two thousand and seven. But there was never 53 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: an iPhone two, and there wasn't even an iPhone three, so. 54 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: They started with an iPhone four. 55 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: There was an iPhone three G and then an iPhone four, 56 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: so they kind of skipped the two. But to Gannon's point, 57 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: he was joking that his phone is sold. It probably 58 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: doesn't have the social media apps that you and I have, 59 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: and basic ninety nine percent of anyone listening to this show. 60 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: Listen if there's an iPhone. There's an iPhone fifteen coming out, 61 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: which is exciting and all, but if you don't know 62 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: how to use the apps within it, then you could 63 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: have the best phone out there. 64 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: That's true. 65 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: So JG could have the iPhone twenty for all that 66 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 3: care is if he doesn't have a TikTok account, he's 67 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: not going to be able to follow Kyler Murray. Although 68 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 3: if he just goes on any other social media platform, 69 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 3: it's being shared everywhere. 70 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: Or azycardinals dot com. Because how about that. He doesn't 71 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: even need a phone. 72 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 3: He has his laptop exactly, and I know the company, 73 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: I know the organization provides those. 74 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: Now, there was some bit of news with respects to 75 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and Gannon in the plan because one, there 76 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: is no guarantee that once week four ends, which would 77 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: be that Monday, October second, that Kyler Murray would be activated. 78 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: He is eligible to be activated off IR at that point, 79 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: but there has been no determination, according to gan at 80 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: least not right now. The interesting part was, and I 81 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: think there's a belief among some zach that when Kyler 82 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: does get activated, he'll play that week, and I just 83 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: I find that hard to believe because he's been doing 84 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: absolutely no football activities. In fact, Gannon mentioned the words 85 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: weeks of practice before Kyler would be able to play 86 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: in a game. 87 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 3: I mean, zach Ertz was elevated off the pup on 88 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: August fourteenth, and he did not really get into any 89 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 3: sort of physical activity until Week one's game in Washington, 90 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 3: So it's gonna take some time to get adjusted to 91 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 3: the offense. He's gonna have different weapons on the outside. 92 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,799 Speaker 3: He's got a Michael Wilson that he has not necessarily 93 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: thrown too because he hasn't been there. It's a completely 94 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 3: different scheme. So while you expect Kyler Murray to write away, 95 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: jump in and snap your fingers and he's the Kyler 96 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: Murray of old, that's unrealistic and that's not gonna happen. 97 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 3: The one thing I will say with JG and the 98 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: way he spoke about it, I appreciate a little bit 99 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: of that transparency. We have not been able to get 100 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: much of that out of JG, especially early on during 101 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: training camp. He would just say, we'll wait and see. 102 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 3: We're not one hundred percent sure which way this is 103 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 3: going to go. That's what we would hear hearing Jonathan 104 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: Gann and say it's going to take some time. This 105 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 3: is a process. We're not rushing him. It was refreshing here. 106 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: They value the type of possession you have in a 107 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray. 108 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: And we've heard before whenever anyone is asked about a 109 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: player coming back from an injury. All we have a 110 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: good plan in place, and that's exactly what Gannon said 111 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: regarding Kyler coming off that ACL injury, and the plan 112 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: is adaptable. Maybe Kyler doesn't need as much ramp up 113 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: time as say a zach Ertz or someone else. You're 114 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: not going to know that until that first day Kyler 115 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: hits the practice field and then the next day how 116 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: does he respond. So there is going to be time 117 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: before we see Kyler Murray play in a game. Again, 118 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: how much time don't know. But another interesting aspect in 119 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: all this is now you're in season. So okay, Kyler 120 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: Murray is available, he's practicing, but if he's not ready 121 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: to start that game or even be the backup, well, 122 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: you got to get Josh Dobbs ready. You got to 123 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: get Clayton tune ready. So how do you divvy up 124 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: the reps? And once again again and said, there is 125 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: a good plan in place because you are limited on 126 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: how many reps you have within a practice so it 127 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: is going to be a lot of moving pieces, moving 128 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: targets if you will try to figure out, Okay, we 129 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: need to get ready for this week's game, but also 130 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: we also have this player that we really love. We're 131 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: anxious to see him play because we haven't seen him play. 132 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 1: So how do we get the team ready for Sunday 133 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: and then Kyler Murray ready for maybe it's this Sunday 134 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: or the following Sunday or the Sunday after that. So 135 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna be fascinating to watch that work. 136 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 3: Of course it will be. And when you as part 137 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: of the offense, you gotta know who's throwing you the ball, 138 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: and you're gonna want to see Kyler Murray get out there, 139 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 3: and you're gonna want to seem perform in play like 140 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 3: the Kyler Murray of old. See Kyler Murray be Kyler Murray. 141 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: But you're also playing football to win the football games, 142 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: and your objective is to practice like you want to 143 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: play in the game. So you're gonna need to get 144 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs and Clayton Tune the same amount of reps 145 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 3: that they've been getting because you're going to go into 146 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: every single game week the same exact way. 147 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: Now, this would have been the perfect week for Kyler 148 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: Murray because he loves playing against the Dallas Cowboys. He's 149 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: undefeated at hometown cooking exactly undefeated against the Cowboys, but 150 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: we will not see Kyler on the field on Sunday 151 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: when the Cardinals host the undefeated Cowboys at State Farm Stadium. 152 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: One twenty five is the kickoff eight thirty am. Pregame 153 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. We will 154 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: dive further into that matchup when we are joined by 155 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: Kyle Yeomans on air, host and producer for the Dallas 156 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys Dallascowboys dot Com. But some injury news, both Cardinals 157 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: and Cowboys related. First, for the Cardinals, we know that 158 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: Carlos Watkins will not play. In fact, he needs surgery 159 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: on an injured biceps. He is for all intentsive purposes, 160 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: going to miss a lot of time, if not the 161 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: entire rest of the season. Josh Woods, though, will not 162 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: play this week. He'll miss a second straight game with 163 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: a name ankle injury, although Gannon said quote Woods is 164 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: trending the right way, so that is good news to 165 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: have one of your starting inside linebackers back on the 166 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: field sooner rather than later. Speaking, a sooner like you Fotto, 167 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: who did not play last week because of a shoulder issue, 168 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: will be on the field this week and that is 169 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: huge for a defensive line that has been decimated with 170 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: injuries not only to Watkins but also LJ. 171 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: Collier. 172 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: Starting with the inside linebackers, you've had a Chris Barnes 173 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: step up, You've had Owen Papo jump in, Ezekiel Turner. 174 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: These guys have been able to get in and be 175 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: alongside Kaisier White, and on the linebacker unit, they haven't 176 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 3: necessarily used as many inside linebackers because they've been so 177 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: focused on getting to the quarterback and those outside linebackers 178 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 3: rushing into and to get to whoever it is, and 179 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 3: this week it's going to be trying to get to 180 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: Dak Prescott. So you haven't necessarily seen as much or 181 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: hasn't been a drop off when it comes to that 182 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: unit for the defensive line man where they gassed against 183 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: the New York Giants, and Jonathan Ledbetter said, yeah, it 184 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: plays a part of it a little bit. I know that. 185 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 3: Kaizier Whit said post game, there's no excuse. Well, the 186 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: human factor of it shows that you're able to at 187 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 3: least recognize it. And that unit took a lot more 188 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 3: snaps than it otherwise would have, so adding a lucky 189 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: pot to a big body into that unit and having 190 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: more experience out of Dante Stales and Eric Banks definitely 191 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 3: is going to be a big help for that defensive line. 192 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: That front. 193 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: Now, you don't want Ledbetter and Kevin Strong to play 194 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: fifty snaps in a game, and that's exactly what they 195 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: did last weekend. They ran out of gas late in 196 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: that game against the Giants. But if you can get 197 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: a five man rotation with FOTO two Ledbetter, Strong, Stills 198 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: and then Eric Banks, elevate him perhaps to the active 199 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: roster or maybe even sign him to the active roster, 200 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: depending on when they make that move for Watkins to 201 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: place him on injured reserves. So that is where the 202 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals stand here on this football Friday. Now, for the Cowboys, 203 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: Trevon Diggs suffered a torn acl at Thursday's practice and 204 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: that is a big loss for that Cowboys secondary and 205 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: it is something that one excuse me, you never like 206 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: to see Gannon mentioned how tough that is for any team. 207 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: But the fact is the expectation for the Cowboys and 208 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: how well that defense is played this season, and you 209 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: lose a key piece in someone who has played very 210 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: very well, not only this season but throughout his first 211 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: three seasons in the league. 212 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 3: He's one of the better cornerbacks in the entire league. 213 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 3: And game respects game. Talent respects talent. So when you're 214 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: able to look out there and you're able to circle 215 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 3: number seven for the Dallas Cowboys on that outside, somebody 216 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 3: you always have to be mindful of. You never want 217 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 3: to see injuries, especially to that extent that's not just 218 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: some booboo that's going to take a long time to 219 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: recover from. We see it with Kyler Murray, we saw 220 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: it with Zach Ertz. It takes a good chunk of time. 221 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 3: In as much as it is physical, it's also that 222 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: mental component. So JG said that he wishes the best 223 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: for Trayvon Diggs, and I know that extends beyond the board. 224 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: Two Pro Bowls in All Pro selection, eighteen career interceptions, 225 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: and Diggs is one of those players that this is 226 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: going to be something brand new. He has only missed 227 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: five games through his first three seasons and now he's 228 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: looking at missing the rest of this season. So that 229 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: is a big blow to the Cowboys. They do have 230 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: Stefan gilmour deron Bland, Jordan Lewis, so again it's going 231 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: to be by committee. Plus they have a dominant front 232 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: and a pass rush that certainly helps the secondary. Although 233 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: I know you hear a lot with Nick rawlis rush 234 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: and cover, cover and rush. The rush is more if 235 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna choose one or the other, you want the 236 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: rush versus the cover because if you can get to 237 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: the quarterback quicker, then you don't need anyone to cover 238 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: too long. 239 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 3: And when it's Michaeh Parsons and DeMarcus Lawrence, they're gonna rush, rush, rush, 240 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: They're gonna go right through that line and do whatever 241 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: they can. They're a vicious group out there. 242 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: Speaking of Micah Parsons, let's go to our conversation with 243 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: Kyle Yelman's on air host and producer for the Dallas Cowboys. 244 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: Dallascowboys dot Com had a chance to speak with him 245 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: on Thursday, and this was before for the news about Diggs. 246 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: But we began our conversation about Michaeh Parsons and I 247 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: asked Kyle specifically, what comes to mind when anyone mentions 248 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: or asks about number eleven. 249 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 4: Disruptive, I mean game wrecker. There are so many different 250 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 4: words that could get to describe what what Mike has 251 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 4: been doing this season, but really he has a chance 252 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 4: to be one word, and that's immortal. I mean the 253 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 4: fact that he is doing what are you doing through 254 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 4: these first two weeks of the season at such a 255 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 4: high level. It's pretty impressive. And the biggest question now 256 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 4: is how long can he keep it sustained? How long 257 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 4: can he keep it going? Because it's it's certainly been 258 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 4: fun to watch through the first two weeks. 259 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: He's playing about eighty plus percent of the defensive snaps. 260 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: You mentioned it, how long can he sustain this? But 261 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: based off his usage, not only this season, but his 262 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: first two years, I mean he's basically been someone that 263 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: is always on the football field, correct, Yeah, it really. 264 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 4: I think his conditioning and his really ready made frame 265 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 4: for the linebacker position coming out of college, and then 266 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 4: whenever they made the move to an egg rusher, it 267 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 4: took him a little bit of time to adjust. I mean, 268 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 4: that's a different body build, that's a different workout regiment 269 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 4: from being a linebacker and trying to force off of 270 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 4: the durability early in his career. Then it turns into 271 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 4: the speed and the agility side of it to match 272 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 4: with the size. So I think it took some time 273 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 4: for him to really get that durability back since he 274 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 4: was focusing so much on the longevity of or not 275 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 4: even really the longevity, but just the athleticism that it 276 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 4: took to be an edge rusher when making that full 277 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 4: time switch last year. Now, I think he's starting to 278 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 4: combine the two though. He's starting to combine his effectiveness 279 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 4: as a pass rusher with some of the durability that 280 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 4: he had trained for early in his career at the 281 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 4: linebacker positions and something that I think he'll continue to 282 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 4: grow with as his career goes along. 283 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: There's no question he's been dominating these first two weeks 284 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: of the regular season, But over those first two seasons, 285 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: what have you seen as far as how teams have 286 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: tried to slow him down and maybe not be as 287 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: effective when whenever he has a quote unquote bad game, 288 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: what are what are the what is the opponent doing well? 289 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 4: They're making that making him think. One of the things 290 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 4: about Micah is is he is a phenomenal, phenomenal uh 291 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 4: jazz musician. I mean he is all about the uh 292 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: the the nuances of the position. I mean he is 293 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 4: one of the guys that you you don't want to 294 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 4: script anything for Micah. He wants to play off of 295 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 4: the ad lib. He wants to play off of the freestyle. 296 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 4: Whereas when you make him think and you make him 297 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 4: go scripted with the read option and misdirections and certain 298 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 4: types of movement behind the line of scrimmage, that's normally 299 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 4: when he would be in a position like you said, 300 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 4: where it's a quote unquote bad game where he only 301 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 4: has three pressures as opposed to the seven pressures in 302 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 4: the two sacks. I mean, he's always going to have 303 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 4: some sort of impact on the game. I mean, he's 304 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 4: proven that through his first two years. As long as 305 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 4: he's on the field, he's going to provide some sort 306 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 4: of production, which makes him special in his own right. 307 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 4: But when teams are able to confuse him and make 308 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 4: him hesitate by either running that red option, the RPO, 309 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 4: getting the misdirection rolling, that's when he's a step behind. 310 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 4: He can still catch up and he can still make 311 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 4: a play. But for the most part, it's certainly the 312 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 4: effective on him. It's plus. I mean, you can throw 313 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 4: double teams in Micah Parsons, but he's already shown that 314 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 4: he can beat a double team. He can work around 315 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 4: the double team. It's really the movement and the motion 316 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 4: that does keep him at least on his toes. 317 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: His play has kind of overshadowed everyone else as far 318 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: as individually, whether that is a DeMarcus Lawrence or the 319 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: guys in the secondary. But this defense, because of dan 320 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: Quinn and his return, learn how big was just having 321 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: everyone back for another season. 322 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 4: That's the biggest thing two years in a row. Now 323 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 4: dan Quinn and having that system with a bit of 324 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 4: just comfortability, I mean, just having him for three years 325 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 4: now in a system that had seen at a revolving 326 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 4: door at defensive coordinator the years prior to his arrival. 327 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 4: Having him back in the building is massive, and that's 328 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 4: something I think kind of lost in the shuffle with 329 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 4: the winning and of course the spotlight that's always on 330 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 4: the quarterback position and on the head coach, and now 331 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 4: it's on Michael Parsons. But dan Quinn deserves the majority 332 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 4: of the credit of what has been built on this 333 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 4: defensive spot going and finding guys like Trayvon Diggs in 334 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 4: the second round, jay Ron Curse as an undrafted rookie, 335 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 4: and somebody that they went out and signed off the 336 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 4: free agent market, and now he's a key cog. Some 337 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 4: of these late round editions that you've gone and made 338 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 4: picks with, like Damon Clark that are playing impact roles. 339 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 4: So I think Dan has built this thing the way 340 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 4: that he wanted and wanted the way that he intended 341 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 4: to build it. But I don't even know if the 342 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 4: expectations were ever going to be as high as they 343 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 4: are now on what this unit could really be, because 344 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 4: it's starting to look like something special happening on that 345 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 4: side of the ball. 346 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: I can say this now, Kyle. I could not say 347 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,239 Speaker 1: it during the offseason, but had a brief interaction with 348 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn when he was interviewing for the Arizona Cardinals 349 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: here within this building. But that was all kind of like, 350 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: you know, under rapts, but seemed like a good guy. 351 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: It'd hated to see him walk out the door at 352 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: that moment, but again, his decision to come back. And 353 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: if we are going to nitpick this tellis defense over 354 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: two games. It's stopping the run. So what are the 355 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: Card of the Cowboys saying about James Connor going into 356 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: this week's matchup. 357 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 4: Well, he's a tough runner. Whenever you watch him on film, 358 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 4: he does not go down easily. And that's really been 359 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 4: his mo throughout his career. I think it's so fun 360 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 4: to watch a guy like that because not only is 361 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 4: it the physical aspect, but it's the mentality that James 362 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 4: Connor brings to the table that I think will challenge 363 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 4: this Dallas defense. Dallas did a nice job last week 364 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 4: of slowing down the Jets running game because they brought 365 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 4: Breeze Hall, who had one hundred and forty yards in 366 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 4: week one. They have Dalvin Cook, these two athletic backs 367 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 4: in the backfield, and then of course sac Wilson escaped 368 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 4: the pocket a couple of times to put up some 369 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 4: rushing yards. But for the most part, Dallas did a 370 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 4: good job of bottling those guys up. But I say 371 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 4: that in the comparison of now seeing James Connor, it's 372 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 4: a completely different thought process. Connor is going to wear 373 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 4: you down. Connor's going to plunge right in in between 374 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 4: the tackles, make things tough at the line of scrimmage, 375 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 4: and fight for extra yards to try and help move 376 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 4: the chains, and then it opens things up on the 377 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 4: outside for those tight ends. For Joshua Dobbs as a runner, possibly, 378 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 4: of course, he said a career high in rushing yards 379 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 4: last week too, So I'm interested to see just how 380 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 4: early and often Arizona will go into the teeth of 381 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 4: that Dallas defense, because teams have been showing, at least 382 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 4: through the first two weeks, you can't really throw the 383 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 4: ball effectively against Dallas in this pass rush, but they 384 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 4: can certainly run it. So I'm interested to see just 385 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 4: how often the Cardinals want to try and get that 386 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 4: ground game going in that first and second quarters. 387 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,959 Speaker 1: You bring up josh Dobbs. He's making his fifth career 388 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: start second though against the Cowboys. He started Week seventeen 389 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: last season. From that game to these past two games, 390 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: obviously it's a different team for him. But what have 391 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: you seen as far as maybe an improvement in Dobbs 392 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: from late last season to these first two games with 393 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. 394 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 4: Well, I think that was right around the time where 395 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 4: Joshua Dobbs was first getting his feet wet as a quarterback. 396 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 4: Now you can see the confidence level has grown with 397 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 4: him now in Arizona, And I think the big reason 398 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 4: why he's in Arizona in the first place is the 399 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 4: way that he played down the stretch last year with 400 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 4: Tennessee and against the Cowboys. Late in the year, and 401 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 4: he did a great job last year of keeping Dallas 402 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 4: off balance defensively just by the misdirection, good reads, making 403 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 4: smart decisions with the football. I mean he has a 404 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 4: degree in aero science for that matter. I mean he's 405 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 4: a smart quarterback and you can see that transition onto 406 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 4: the field. He doesn't normally make these these reads the 407 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 4: wrong decisions. He's gonna throw it to an open receiver. 408 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 4: Whether or not they make the play after the fact 409 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 4: is out of his hands. He made one throw last week. 410 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 4: I think that was one of the better throws he's 411 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 4: made since he was a starting quarterback with Tennessee in college. 412 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 4: I mean it was an outside route. There were levels 413 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 4: to the routes that Arizona was running against New York, 414 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 4: and he put it in really the honey hole against 415 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 4: the cover six defense, and it was really fun to 416 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 4: watch Joshua Dobbs kind of let it loose. I'm interested, 417 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: like I said earlier, with how they're going to run 418 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 4: the football effective effectively against Dallas. I just want to 419 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 4: see maybe some Reid option from Joshua Dobbs if he's 420 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 4: going to keep things interesting against the Dallas front seven. 421 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 4: He's going to have to tote the rock a little 422 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 4: bit as well, and we'll see how much he can 423 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 4: get going. After putting up forty plus yards against the Giants. 424 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: Last let's talk about the other quarterback that will be 425 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: on the field on Sunday, and that would be your quarterback, 426 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Small sample size, but his completion percentage is 427 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: off the charts. Is that him the offense being a 428 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: little bit more reliant on the run game, or knowing 429 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: he doesn't have to do a lot because he's got 430 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: the backing of a great defense. 431 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 4: It's probably a little bit of both. I think really 432 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 4: it's the scheme that's that hand new play caller in town, 433 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 4: and it's Mike McCarthy, and he's done just a fantastic 434 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 4: job of setting back up for success in those certain scenarios. 435 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 4: Whenever you have the quarterback position playing with those mistakes 436 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 4: last year, you'd have to put a little bit on 437 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 4: the wide receivers. You have to put a little bit 438 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 4: on the quarterback. But this year they haven't really put 439 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 4: him in a situation to make those decisions. It's been 440 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 4: within ten yards, it's been to the it's been with 441 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 4: play action and predicated off the run. So I think 442 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 4: he's just been in a better position as a quarterback 443 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 4: to be successful and and it plays into his strengths 444 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 4: as really a pocket passer, somebody that wants to get 445 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 4: the football out quick, and they've been doing that even 446 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,959 Speaker 4: against two good front sevens against the Giants and the Jets. 447 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 4: These first two weeks of the season, they're going to 448 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 4: face a good front seven again that loves the blitz 449 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 4: from Arizona. But Dak throughout his career has shown that 450 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 4: he knows how to pick up a blitz, he knows 451 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 4: how to throw out of a blitz, and especially this year, 452 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 4: he's been getting the ball out quicker. So not only 453 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 4: is he relying on that eviens, but he's turning around 454 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 4: and he's getting it out fast regardless and finding a 455 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 4: way to get into his playmakers. 456 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: I have not seen every throw that he's made this season, 457 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: but for the first time since late twenty twenty one, 458 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: he's gone back to back games without an interception. I 459 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: know that was a big deal of this offseason as 460 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 1: far as the number of interceptions. He's predicted not to 461 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: throw this season. But has he put the ball in 462 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: jeopardy or is he getting the ball basically just the 463 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: quick reads and getting it out sooner rather than later. 464 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. Really only one bad decision last week, or bad 465 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 4: ball placement you could say, was it was against sauce Gardner. 466 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 4: It was a throw from the far hash Bart to 467 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 4: the right sideline and he put it right where sauce 468 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 4: Gardner had a chance to pick it off. And if 469 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 4: you would have it might have stuck out in NFL 470 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 4: minds because it might have been a house call for 471 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 4: sace Gardener. But I think more so outside of that 472 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 4: just being a great play from the reigning rookie of 473 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 4: the year in the AFC side of things, I really 474 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 4: just think that was the only real wrong decision that 475 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 4: Dak has made. And even that one, you could kind 476 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 4: of see on the film what Dak was looking for. 477 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 4: I think he was expecting a break back to the 478 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 4: ball from his receiver a little bit quicker, maybe a 479 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 4: miscommunication on that part, but his wide receivers are doing 480 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 4: a good job of building separation. He didn't have Brandon 481 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 4: Cooks last week on a guy like Jayalen Tolbert to 482 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 4: step up, and he did so with three catches, So 483 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 4: I think there's as a cohesion on that offensive side 484 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 4: of the ball that he hasn't had in quite some time, 485 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 4: and I think he's excited to see how his role 486 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 4: will continue to grow and how he can continue to 487 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 4: take care of the football while his defense is taking 488 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 4: them away. 489 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: On the ground, though, is where this Cowboys offense has 490 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: had a lot of success. Tony Pollard with thirty nine 491 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: rushing attempts already in just two games. Is this something 492 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: that the offense can rely on or is it just 493 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: basically because you've been ahead, you've just been relying on 494 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: that ground game. 495 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's mostly because they want to establish 496 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 4: the run early. Because the West Coast offense, and that's 497 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 4: what Mike McCarthy's running from a scheme standpoint, that West 498 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 4: Coast offense needs the run to be effective, and it 499 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 4: needs to provide chunk yardage through, especially in between the tackles, 500 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 4: because that's where you keep a defense on their heels 501 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 4: and they're not allowed to really not able to pin 502 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 4: their ears back and blitz happy and they have to 503 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 4: remain gap sounds. So I think they're trying to establish 504 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 4: it early. But then, like you said, the last two weeks, 505 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 4: they've really put games out of hand early. So even 506 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 4: when they're trying to establish the run. They've had to 507 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 4: continue that throughout the entirety of four quarters. They haven't 508 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 4: had to throw them from behind and put Dak Prescott 509 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 4: in a spot where he has to throw forty passes. 510 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 4: They won the time of possession battle last week forty 511 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 4: two minutes to seventeen. I mean, that's what it was, 512 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 4: and it was one of the best time of possession 513 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 4: wins in Cowboys franchise history. So if they can continue 514 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 4: to control time of possession by running the ball effectively, 515 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 4: I think Mike McCarthy is going to be just fine 516 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 4: as a play caller. It's not necessarily how many carries. 517 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 4: It's just how long they can carry the ball or 518 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 4: how often they can hold the ball, and how often 519 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 4: they can move the chains to keep drives a lot. 520 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, these first two games outscoring the opposition seventy to ten. 521 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: We'll see what awaits here on Sunday. Kyle, appreciate the time. 522 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: Best of luck after this Sunday. It's always an adventure 523 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: when the Cowboys come to town. But looking forward to 524 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: week three, Yeah. 525 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 4: I appreciate you having me as always, and you guys 526 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 4: do great work over there for the Cardinals and keep 527 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 4: on rolling. This will be a fun one on Sunday. 528 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: Good stuff there from Kyle. Appreciate him joining us on 529 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: Cardinals cover two presented by Hyundai, probably partner of the 530 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. Again, that conversation was done on Thursday before 531 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: the news about Travon Diggs. So that is something that 532 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: no one likes to hear or see, is that as 533 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: one of your starters go down late in the week. Fact, 534 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: the Cardinals had it just a week ago Friday when 535 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker suffered a hamshring injury during practice and now 536 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: is on injured reserve. But let's go back to where 537 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: Kyle and I picked up our conversation. That is talking 538 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 1: about Michael Parsons again. He is the most dominant player 539 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: offense or defense, at least in my opinion Zach right 540 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: now in the National Football League, the reigning NFC Defensive 541 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: Player of the Week, and someone that yeah, Josh Dobbs 542 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: is gonna have to know where number eleven is when 543 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: he breaks the huddle, comes up to the line of scrimmage. 544 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: And the key with Parsons is he lines up so 545 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: many different spots. It's not just gonna be against DJ Humphreys. 546 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: It's not just gonna be against Paris Johnson. Could be 547 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: against the center or the guard. We've seen that before, 548 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: so everyone on that line of scrimmage, including the tight ends, 549 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: are going to have to be aware. All right, Parsons 550 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: on my side. Okay, great, let's just snap the ball 551 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: and see what happens. 552 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 3: Did you see the video before we get into that. 553 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 3: Did you see the video of Mike like imitating Miles Garrett? Yes, 554 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 3: right over the center and then chasing down. How demoralizing 555 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 3: is that as a center when you see the star 556 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 3: that you're about to just nail, Like you guys are 557 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 3: badges run right into each other and he's he's making 558 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: a basketball move and still executes it. That's just the 559 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 3: dominance that Micah Parsons plays with Paris Johnson Junior said 560 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 3: that he's not invisible and he's a big body. Michah 561 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 3: Parsons is one of those athletes you make in a 562 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 3: lab and you put him out onto that field just 563 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 3: by his body structure, his physical abilities, his mental stamina. 564 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 3: How no matter what side of the ball it's on, 565 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 3: he's gonna do whatever he can to get to the quarterback. 566 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 3: He is as good, I agree, as dominant of a 567 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 3: player on either side of the ball. The beauty of 568 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 3: it is, though, is that you have two tackles on 569 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 3: both sides that are very capable of stopping a Micah Parsons. 570 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 3: Drew petsk said, he's not sure if you can't stop 571 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: Micah Parsons. He said that with the chuckles. So they 572 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 3: do have a plan in a place. But Micah and 573 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 3: number eleven being Micah Parsons is one of the best 574 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 3: players in the world period. 575 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: And you had a chance to speak to Paris specifically 576 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: about this matchup, and this is a matchup that even 577 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: going back to when Paris was drafted, I remember him 578 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: being in this very studio alongside Paul Calvisi and myself 579 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: and talking to Paris Johnson about some of those matchups 580 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: i e. Against Amiicah Parsons, and he was even then 581 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: looking forward. And this was all the way back at 582 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: the end of April early May. So it's a matchup 583 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: that everyone is going to be watching. I think there 584 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: might even be I don't know, can you can you 585 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: have a can you have just a camera focused on 586 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: number eleven and pay attention to there is period that 587 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: is true there's always at least one and depending on 588 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: what angles Fox gives you as far as replays, Yeah, 589 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: so pay attention to that. But this is a matchup 590 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: that these two talking about. Paris and Micah know one 591 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: another from their high school days, but they've never competed 592 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: against each other. 593 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, so from Micah was, I guess it was one 594 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 3: of his first years at Penn State and Paris Johnson 595 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 3: Junior was at a camp and when he was in 596 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 3: high school and since then they started they exchanged pleasantries 597 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 3: with each other and they've been having light smack talks 598 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 3: since then. I re listened to that podcast that you 599 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 3: did with Paris. He said he was watching film all 600 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 3: the way back then and now he's he's kind of 601 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 3: had this he circled on his calendar for a while. 602 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 3: That's the MAAC talk is about a come to fruition 603 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 3: at State Farms Stadium on Sunday at one twenty five, 604 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 3: and Micah Parsons is one of those players. It's like 605 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 3: a show Heyo Tani and Patrick Mahomes that your eyes 606 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 3: just automatically gravitate towards you want to see what number 607 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 3: eleven's about to do in the field. Because at any 608 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 3: chance it could be magical, and in most cases it is. 609 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: So how do you handle a Micah Parsons. Earlier in 610 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: the week on the Red Sea Report, Lorenzo Alexander mentioned 611 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: you run right at him because he has the speed 612 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: to track you down, so the easiest, And I've heard 613 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: the same thing when people talk about Aaron Donald, you 614 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: want to go right at them. Yeah, it sounds. It 615 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: doesn't sound the best way to attack a player like that, 616 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: but it's better because you expect, you know exactly what 617 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: you're doing, as opposed to worrying about someone coming over 618 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: your shoulder or whatever and then trying to figure things out. 619 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 3: I think a big part of it is just the 620 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 3: accepting the fact that Micah is going to get his licks, 621 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 3: he's gonna get what, He's gonna have numbers on the 622 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 3: stat line. You have to accept that matter of fact, 623 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 3: because it's gonna happen. He's one of the best players 624 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: in the world. When you have to when you have 625 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 3: that already in your mind and understand that Micah is 626 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 3: going to have some noise, he's gonna make some noise, 627 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 3: you're able, i think, to clear your mind and right 628 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 3: away go after him. And when you run out a 629 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 3: guy like Micah Parsons, you got to meet force with force, 630 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 3: and you got to do whatever you can to stop him. 631 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 3: And if you get him off this timing by half 632 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 3: the second, that's enough time for josh Ops to slinging 633 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 3: the ball, or to look at a different read and 634 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 3: try to get the ball out there, or running back 635 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 3: to find a hole. That's so I would only assume 636 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 3: that that's the way to stop Michah Parsons is by 637 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 3: running at him. But there's a reason why I'm here 638 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 3: in this chair, Craig, alongside you, because we're not in 639 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 3: that meeting room, uh, getting ready to stop the sheer 640 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 3: lieon that Micah Parsons is. 641 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: The key is for the Cardinals not to fall behind, 642 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: and not to fall behind by a lot. And what 643 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: happens if the Cardinals do get off to an early lead, 644 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: whether that's three or nothing or seven to nothing. This 645 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: Cowboy team has not had to play from behind, So 646 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: what happens when they face a little adversity this early 647 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: in the season. Everything has gone brilliantly for the Cowboys 648 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: so far in two weeks. What happens in week three 649 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: if the tables get turned just a little bit, because 650 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: that's where I think the Cardinals, if you can get 651 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: off to an early lead, might be able to have 652 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: and be able to hang and maybe even surprise not 653 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: only basically themselves, but everyone else across the league. 654 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 3: Before that, it just came to mind, I think that 655 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 3: Micah Parsons is also gonna be a really great test 656 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 3: for this offensive line before they go play Nick Bosa 657 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 3: the following week in San Francisco. Knowing that you're gonna 658 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 3: have two elite pass rushers and back to back weeks, 659 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 3: you're automatically going to be in that sort of mindset 660 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 3: ready to go, knowing what you're about to expect there 661 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 3: when it comes to the Cowboys potentially and facing adversity, 662 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 3: this Cardinals team has started off strong in both two weeks. 663 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 3: If games were only three quarters long, the Cardinals are 664 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 3: two and zero right now, being able to build off 665 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 3: of that. The Cowboys have only let up ten points 666 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 3: all season between the first two games, and mean they 667 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 3: shut out the giantsis really just in that second game 668 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 3: against the Jets they were able to let go of 669 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 3: ten points on the defensive side of the ball. This 670 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 3: Cardinals team has the opportunity to earn the respect of 671 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 3: a lot of people in the country. They fought hard 672 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 3: against the Commanders, they did not come away with the win. Okay, 673 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 3: it's that week one game, Eric b Enemy, you didn't 674 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 3: finish Karl's penalties. A week two through three quarters, you 675 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 3: were incredibly strong, you were incredibly dominant. You had the 676 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 3: Giants on their heels, and then Kayser White said it 677 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 3: was like a different team when the Giants came out 678 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 3: for that second half. The Cowboys are a very strong unit, 679 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 3: but their offensive line has been on the injury report 680 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 3: list for the past couple of days. They're starting to 681 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 3: deal with some knicks and bumps, as Jonathan Ganna likes 682 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 3: to refer to them. This Cardinals team definitely has the 683 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 3: opportunity to put that Cowboys team in the spotlight of 684 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 3: how they handle adversity. 685 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Cowboys two starting guards Tyler Smith, he has 686 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: not played the first two weeks because of a hamstring issue, 687 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: and Zach Martin on the right side is dealing with 688 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: an ankle injury. So again, what happens on Sunday, a 689 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: lot of is going to fall on Josh Dobbs's shoulders 690 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 1: and his third straight start in the National Football league. 691 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: He's never started three games in a row. You have 692 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: to go back to his days at Tennessee. But he 693 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: does have a little bit of familiarity with the Cowboys. 694 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: His first start ever was last season Week seventeen with 695 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: the Titans, and his first game was against the Cowboys. 696 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it'll be great for Josh Dobbs to see 697 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 3: another familiar opponent once. To go back to the injury report, also, 698 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 3: the Cowboys starting center has also hurt his hamstring yesterday 699 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 3: afternoon on at Thursday's practice. He underwent an MRI to 700 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 3: determine the severity of it. So they said that he's 701 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 3: going to be okay. But that's another player that you 702 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 3: have to think about with how much their body is 703 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 3: put at use. For Josh Dobbs, I mean, he hasn't 704 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 3: been able to see many opponents. He's walked out all 705 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 3: the opponents from the sidelines, being able to see an 706 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 3: opponent twice. Albeit it's a little bit different of a scheme. 707 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 3: Everyone's asking JG about what it's like when you have 708 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 3: familiarity through his time in the NFC East with the 709 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys. I think it will be helpful for Josh 710 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 3: Dobbs to see that star on the other side going 711 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 3: against him because it is an opponent that he does 712 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 3: have familiarity playing against. 713 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 1: One last note here and that is Dobbs specific because 714 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: off the field a great story that you wrote and 715 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: is up on Easycardinals dot com. As far as Josh 716 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: Dobbs and his connection to a Cardinals. 717 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 3: Cheerleader, Yeah, so we found this out earlier on the week, 718 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 3: and that was a really powerful story. There's a Josh 719 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 3: Dobbs is a as being a public figure, being the 720 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 3: starting quarterback of an NFL team, one of thirty two. 721 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 3: You're gonna be out there, and it's such an incredible 722 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 3: thing when you're able to see a guy that does 723 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 3: look a little bit different in how he embraces it. 724 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs has alopiche area out of a condition in 725 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 3: autoimmune skin condition that forces hair loss, and he said 726 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 3: he said he started at third grade. He noticed a 727 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 3: bald spot in his head, as most third graders do, 728 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 3: they don't really think much of it. And then his 729 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 3: hair started to grow back and we get patched. She 730 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 3: would fall out. By the time he went to college, 731 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 3: he decided to shave it off entirely and rock the 732 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 3: Baldy as he told me, which I thought was just 733 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 3: a pretty neat nickname, the Baldy, but he said he 734 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 3: was gonna rock that. And then we found out and 735 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 3: that he's been very vocal about it. September's Alopecia Awareness Month, 736 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 3: so he's been a very strong supporter of that cause. 737 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 3: And then we get told that there's an Arizona Cardinals 738 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 3: cheerleader that auditioned in May for the team. In January, 739 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 3: she was diagnosed with alopecia and her dream this entire 740 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 3: time was to be an Arizona Cardinals cheerleader. And a 741 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 3: few months before that, she is starting to lose your hair, 742 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 3: and around March she said, I'm not sure if I'm 743 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 3: going to be able to do this cheerleading such a 744 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 3: beauty based industry, it's very cutthroat. Is this what's meant 745 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 3: for me? But she said, no, I work so hard 746 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 3: for this. I'm gonna try out. And she went into 747 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 3: about a week before the audition, she shaved her head 748 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 3: entirely and she went in and it was a very 749 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 3: empowering moment for her, as she said, and the entire 750 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,919 Speaker 3: cheer team they all were cheering her on. She said 751 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 3: that they made her feel beautiful and special and she 752 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 3: didn't feel much different than anybody else, and even if 753 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 3: there was a feeling of difference, it was one that 754 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 3: she was beginning to embrace. And she met Josh for 755 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 3: the first time after Thursday's practice and the two interacted 756 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 3: and it wasn't like your typical blow bye. Let me 757 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 3: just take a picture, thank you, have a good day. 758 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 3: Josh was talking to her and he was giving her advice. 759 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 3: He was telling her about the Alopecia Convention, that they 760 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 3: have people of all ages coming together and they're able 761 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,240 Speaker 3: to share their experiences and share their stories. And Josh 762 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 3: told me, and you'll see it once the article is 763 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 3: uploaded on Azycardinals dot com, if it's not uploaded already. 764 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 3: As we're recording this early Friday morning, Josh said to her. 765 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 3: Was Josh said to me, rather that having somebody like 766 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 3: Ellie within your staff and just in the organization, somebody 767 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,919 Speaker 3: were able to share stories with relief to a little 768 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 3: bit different You're everyone's going through something, what they go 769 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 3: through is a little bit more visible than what most 770 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 3: other people go through. So to have somebody within the 771 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 3: organization one that Josh is still new and uh to 772 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 3: come in and to see somebody that looks like him. 773 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 3: He said, it's it's it's a beautiful thing because you're 774 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,959 Speaker 3: able to share stories and be there for each other 775 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 3: if adversity does arise. 776 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: Great story on asycardinals dot com, videos as well, photos 777 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: as well, on all the social media platforms. But great 778 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: job by u zech and getting that out not only 779 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 1: for us here on Cardinals cover too, but everyone else. 780 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: I strongly encourage everyone to go to Asycardinals dot com 781 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: and read that story. Well done, Thank you. 782 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 3: If anything, it's also a testament to Josh Dobbs and 783 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 3: Ellie both being willing to share their story. It's not 784 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 3: a comfortable thing to be able to sit in front 785 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 3: of the cameras and I don't want to necessarily use 786 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 3: the word expose yourself, but you're bringing light to the situation. 787 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 3: It's not something that people on social media. Ignorance is 788 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 3: a Josh Dobbs said that to me, everyone's going to 789 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 3: make their comments. People were taunting him as he was 790 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 3: in college, and they were using that as a hackling 791 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 3: tactic to get over that and to embrace that, to 792 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 3: say hey, I'm different and that's okay. It was a 793 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 3: really powerful thing, and I think regardless of what people 794 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 3: are going through in life, it's something that they could 795 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 3: look at in or in Something from both Dobbs and 796 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 3: Ellie will be on display for everyone to see on Sunday, 797 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 3: Dobbs on the field, Ellie off the field when the 798 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 3: Cardinals hosts the Cowboys. It is Week three, cardinals second 799 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 3: home game again. Sunday's game kicks off at one twenty five, 800 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 3: eight thirty am. Pregame coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals 801 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 3: Radio Network. 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