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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to a special presentation of Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: We are live high above the practice fields here at

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Speaker 1: Jillette Stadium for a joint practice with the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you the fans are streaming in, pouring

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Speaker 1: in unprecedented attendance for twenty twenty four. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be packed. They're going to be overflowing on the ramps.

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Speaker 1: Both teams are pretty much out there. Summer stragglers are

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Speaker 1: still coming on. But we're ready to go here at

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Speaker 1: Jillette Stadium for what should be a very interesting and

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Speaker 1: we hope, illuminating day with the Philadelphia Eagles. I'm here

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Speaker 1: with Paul Parillo, Mike Dods, Evan Lazar Tamara. Brown will

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Speaker 1: be up a little later. But guys, uh, do you

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Speaker 1: feel the excitement? This is a little bit different. I do. Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: So he was down there before kicking getting the crowd

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Speaker 4: hyped up, but had some PU T shirts, a lot

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Speaker 4: of PU fans down there, so it was great to

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Speaker 4: meet some of our people that support the program. So

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Speaker 4: that was good as and here comes Drake may walking

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Speaker 4: onto the field, so always good to see him and

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Speaker 4: the big day for him.

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Speaker 1: Curious how these guys, I mean, really the Patriots across.

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Speaker 4: The board going up against the offensive line versus their

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Speaker 4: defensive line, our cornerbacks versus their receivers, and you know

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Speaker 4: just how generally the quarterbacks perform here for the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: Is me, like you said Friday, a lot a lot

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Speaker 4: to see today?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we Girard Mayo spoke before the practice today and

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Speaker 1: he informed everyone that they're gonna treat it like a

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Speaker 1: game minus the tackling, so everything, you know, minus the

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Speaker 1: actual bringing guys down to the ground. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: like a thud they call it. Yeah, you know, so

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Speaker 1: but that's not the plan. But otherwise, like you said,

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Speaker 1: my you know the type of matchups. You know, both

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Speaker 1: teams will coordinate, they'll set up situations where they want

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Speaker 1: to see certain players against other players, certain units against

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Speaker 4: I think Evan was just really team periods, Like they

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Speaker 5: Do one on one blocking or one on one coverage.

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Speaker 5: It was you know, I've told the story before.

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Speaker 4: We warmed up and we went over there and it

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Speaker 4: been really taken a while to warm up. I think

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they're gonna like spend some time

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Speaker 1: Will there be some one on one drills. I think

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Speaker 4: I know a couple of weeks ago, I was saying, Ah,

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Speaker 1: The edge, how's it going to look against those tackles?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, according I've got the script, and I

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Speaker 1: Again? At eleven oh five they will have one on ones, uh,

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Speaker 1: Get me started out.

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Speaker 7: You don't have to worry about putting stuff on tape

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Speaker 7: So schematically, you can do some of the stuff that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Belichick was on Pat McAfee talk about

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Marcus Jones coming onto the field, which it's a

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Speaker 5: So I'm gonna sort of hold off and see what

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Speaker 1: So good to see them both out here and and dressed.

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Speaker 7: You also wonder with some of those injuries, if it

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Speaker 7: This is they're treating it like a game. You know,

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Speaker 1: So much what they look like on the practice field.

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Speaker 5: The part of that is, I mean, how many times

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Speaker 5: Come today today, you're not interested, right because today is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know, it's a it's kind of an

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Speaker 7: like all avenues of adding talent, whether it's the draft, trades,

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Speaker 7: He's he's really good at what he does. Now, some

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Speaker 7: duson I's big board and just picking guys from Georgia

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: It's just I think once you get that cycle going,

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Speaker 1: It's that's the ideal scenario.

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Speaker 7: They have that ability to just take some luxury picks

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Speaker 1: Them iron sharp iron, Paul, it's really hot practice, like player,

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Speaker 5: That's you know August there. Yeah, and I still crisp

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Speaker 4: Feel it football weather, right, yeah, right, let's put that

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Speaker 5: I hate the end of summer, which it was nine

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Speaker 7: I can't imagine the Eagles are in pads, what five

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Speaker 4: So Matthew Jenones got some pads on, so we'll see

438
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Speaker 4: what his participation is like. That continues to just kind

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Speaker 4: of be a side story.

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Speaker 1: I guess that we're waiting to see. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: The more time that drags on, do you start to

442
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Speaker 1: wonder if they're.

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Speaker 5: You bring that up. There was a report yesterday, not

444
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Speaker 5: much in the report, but Jeremy Fowler of ESPN said

445
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Speaker 5: that there have been a number of inquiries as to

446
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Speaker 5: his availability, Matthew Judon's availability to the Patriots. So, you know,

447
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Speaker 5: I don't know if that's something that maybe Judon's side

448
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Speaker 5: puts out there that sort of say, see, you know

449
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Speaker 5: people want me. If you don't want me, there's other

450
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Speaker 5: people that want me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was wondering where that would come from, would

452
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Speaker 1: be my guess. Yeah, Cody is in North Charlotte, North Carolina,

453
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Speaker 1: but today he's here at practice and he said he

454
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Speaker 1: ran it to Mike du So and he got a

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Speaker 1: Patriots Unfiltered T shirt.

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Speaker 9: There you go, Good job dude, meet and you Cody,

457
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Speaker 9: good job being in ambassador.

458
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Speaker 1: And he he wants to know how much you can

459
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Speaker 1: pay us for everyone to sign it.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, uh, come back, come down by the interviews afterward.

461
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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll we'll get you.

462
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Speaker 4: But now it's good to see as funny as you

463
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Speaker 4: start giving the shirts out, and then all of a sudden,

464
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Speaker 4: you're like Duze, douze, you know, PU fans, And then

465
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Speaker 4: you get some people that clearly don't know what Patriots

466
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Speaker 4: Unfiltered are and they.

467
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Speaker 1: Just want a T shirt. And I'm like, well, not really,

468
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Speaker 1: it's important a show, but I guess I'll get you on.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you need to do like PU trivia

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Speaker 1: and if they passed the test, then they Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, that's what I was thinking, And you know, I

473
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Speaker 4: was trying to think of like founding Fathers.

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Speaker 1: That's a good one. That's a good one.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: I was thinking, like, what's Paul's drink A choice on

477
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Speaker 4: the show.

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Speaker 1: So was it called before Patriots Unfilter? That's a good one, yeah,

479
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Speaker 1: pu Trivia. Yeah, the world's original podcast fans, Yeah, fons

480
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Speaker 1: just for sure. It's the world's longest running podcast. That there.

481
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Speaker 1: That's that's a good way. That's not even a debate.

482
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Speaker 1: That's not even a debate. Fans are still streaming in.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where they're going to put them. I

484
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Speaker 1: know I see them starting to get onto the ramps.

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Speaker 4: So I gotta say, though, like remember when we were

486
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Speaker 4: at Eagles camp. I mean, they did have some stands,

487
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Speaker 4: but I think I think this is a lot more

488
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Speaker 4: conducive to this kind of practice than when we were

489
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Speaker 4: at that Eagles facility.

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Speaker 1: I mean we remember, me, you and.

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Speaker 4: Scal We're kind of like we were in like an

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Speaker 4: r V that there's an r V Clark. We couldn't

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Speaker 4: see anything except Joe Flacco coming to cut through to

494
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Speaker 4: use the porta potty like three times. It was like,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on. There's places being made

496
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Speaker 4: down there. But but you had a glotle you neither

497
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Speaker 4: a couple of plays, Paul you recalled, I think was

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Speaker 4: it Dallas.

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Speaker 9: Goddard maybe j Are touchdown catching the end zone yeah, right,

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Speaker 9: and I remember thinking Hurts Hurts look good on the run,

501
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Speaker 9: but yeah, it didn't not so much. Yeah, but Goddard, Smith, Brown,

502
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Speaker 9: those guys, it's the big the big three for them.

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Speaker 5: I think you'll give you a warm up period now

504
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Speaker 5: for the Patriots anyway.

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Speaker 1: Start the stretching. So attendance wise pretty good. Just Henry,

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Speaker 1: just Hunter, Henry Is.

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Speaker 7: And obviously Napoo and Barmore. We're at the point where

508
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Speaker 7: those two guys will tell you when they're here, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, I know it's such a disappointment for Marty Maphu.

510
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Speaker 4: I mean, you got to look at Kyle Dugger and

511
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Speaker 4: Jabrill Peppers both signed extensions. I mean, when when did

512
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Speaker 4: Mapu get hurt? I don't mean, I don't even know

513
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Speaker 4: if he was out there for Pads right like it

514
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Speaker 4: was before Pads, I think, yeah, and he's just been

515
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Speaker 4: a man on an island out here. Unfortunate for him,

516
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Speaker 4: but opportunity for guys like Jalen Hawkins, I mean, even

517
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Speaker 4: Del Pattis, Josh Bledsoe, like those guys are probably gonna

518
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Speaker 4: get plenty of action here, both in the practice and

519
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Speaker 4: in the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Patriots have their helmets off too, here.

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Speaker 5: Holoa was Patriots have had their helmets off a lot

522
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Speaker 5: doing this stuff, which I don't understand, but maybe that's

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Speaker 5: that's the new wave.

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Speaker 1: Down on the defensive side, they have their helmets on,

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Speaker 1: they're tougher. Yeah, so, I.

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Speaker 5: Don't know if you guys happened to catch that. There

527
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Speaker 5: were a couple of players that chose to wear the

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Speaker 5: Guardian Cats in the preseason games. Jonathan Taylor will probably

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Speaker 5: the highest profile guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. It seemed to me to be heavy.

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Speaker 4: No, yeah, well that's what uh looking at the paper

532
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Speaker 4: was talking about yesterday. Baker said it's it's kind of heavy,

533
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Speaker 4: and he didn't really love it.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't love the aesthetics of it, but

536
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Speaker 4: if if it, I just I feel like there's so

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Speaker 4: much murky research about it that, you know, the NFL

538
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Speaker 4: is trumpeting how much it works, and then I'm also

539
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Speaker 4: seeing people trumpeting that, no, it doesn't work.

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Speaker 5: You'll have to forgive me if I'm not just gonna

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Speaker 5: take the point of fel that these are safer.

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Speaker 1: Right, but they should look dumb. But we're gonna do well,

543
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Speaker 1: nothing nothing stops the movement of the brain on a

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Speaker 1: sudden stop or hit. You can have all the padding

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Speaker 1: you want on the outside, but the brain is still

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Speaker 1: moving on the inside. So it's it's just one of

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Speaker 1: those things. Like I mean, I.

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Speaker 5: Don't know TJ was getting his hemet ready for practice

549
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Speaker 5: on Fridays because he hasn't had it on for a while.

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Speaker 1: So it takes just.

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Speaker 5: Walking around the house to about half off.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, get that off, you get those neck muscles engaged.

553
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Speaker 5: You just gotta get ready.

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Speaker 1: But you mentioned that, no, no joke, duce. I think

555
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Speaker 1: that's the biggest preventive exercise you can do, is strengthening

556
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Speaker 1: your neck muscles. Sure, because you see so many guys

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Speaker 1: that hit the ground and then the head just flops,

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Speaker 1: and and then you see other guys that have, you know,

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Speaker 1: built up that neck muscle where you know the head

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Speaker 1: doesn't hit the ground. Yeah, it's it's really important to

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Speaker 1: build up those neck muscles, you know, so when when

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Speaker 1: you do hit the ground, your your head doesn't just flop.

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Speaker 4: They should do a neck time lapse on Devin mccordy,

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Speaker 4: because I feel like he's like a prime example of

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Speaker 4: like an NFL veteran who, yeah, clearly focused on the

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Speaker 4: neck yeah, I think his next gone down though maybe

567
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Speaker 4: you ask about that on the preseason.

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Speaker 7: You also hear about guys like Tua, I know, did this,

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Speaker 7: and it was pretty well documented that they had guys

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Speaker 7: that were learning how to fall. Yeah, like there's special

571
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Speaker 7: there's actual coaches like that that coach this, obviously away

572
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Speaker 7: from the facility, but they teach you when you're going down,

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Speaker 7: you know how to properly brace yourself for the fall,

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Speaker 7: and yeah, you know different things and and that the

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Speaker 7: the Dolphins have worked really hard with that with Tua

576
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Speaker 7: to avoid injuries, you know, especially concussions, but other injuries too,

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Speaker 7: and it seemed like it had worked for the time

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Speaker 7: being and then.

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Speaker 1: He got hurt again.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know how much it really mattered.

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Speaker 1: Back in my wrestling days, we used to do a

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Speaker 1: thing called neck bridging, and you would line in your

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Speaker 1: back and you'd arch you back and you go. It's

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Speaker 1: almost like push ups with your neck from your back,

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Speaker 1: and that's how you would strengthen your neck.

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Speaker 4: You think you could do one of those now, Freddy,

587
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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 1: So I was working.

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Speaker 5: This is something like yoga, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, I was working. It's kind of I was working

591
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Speaker 1: in my backyard and I was going down the ramp

592
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Speaker 1: from the shed and it was this rainy day and

593
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Speaker 1: I my feet came out from under me, and boy

594
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Speaker 1: did I hit hard, but my neck, my head did

595
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Speaker 1: not hit the ground. And I owe it to those

596
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Speaker 1: wrestling days. Did you have your single it on too?

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Speaker 1: Is that part of the underneath? Yeah? I always when

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Speaker 1: I your lawn work, I always put the thing out

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Speaker 1: of underneath because it's a it's a secure feeling, you know,

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Speaker 1: everything tight, Yeah, everything together, which I need tights. It's

601
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Speaker 1: the required uniform. Okay, thank you? All right? So, uh,

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, I was gonna say, falcon is another bird. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles are doing this. They're stretching right now. Patriots

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Speaker 1: is still doing their ravens, their unit drills. Yeah, same

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Speaker 1: offensive line.

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Speaker 4: It looks like, uh, you know, it does seem like

607
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Speaker 4: two and three right now are the top options at

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Speaker 4: wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's gonna hold.

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Speaker 4: And I think to me, Baker and Baker and Polk.

611
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Speaker 4: First just got to say some of these rookies in

612
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Speaker 4: the past receivers couldn't stay healthy.

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Speaker 5: Those guys have been out here every day at training camp.

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Speaker 5: I mean, same with Wallace just.

615
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Speaker 4: Anytime rookies can be healthy and yep, reps every day,

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Speaker 4: it's a good sign. But you know, I look at

617
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Speaker 4: those two guys, and then and then Borne and Osbourne

618
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Speaker 4: and Douglas.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's five.

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Speaker 4: It's just I think where I struggle is how to

621
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Speaker 4: really suss out Booty and Riager And they kind of

622
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Speaker 4: look alike, and they kind of play similar roles, and

623
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Speaker 4: maybe riger has a.

624
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Speaker 1: Little bit more special teams. Uh. Plus, you know, Booty

625
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Speaker 1: seems confident.

626
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Speaker 8: I expected he outright said it at his press conference.

627
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Speaker 8: He has no doubt in his mind that he's going

628
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Speaker 8: to make the roster.

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Speaker 1: He's supposed to say. I think I'm going to be.

630
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Speaker 8: Usually you say I'm working hard every day, Like that's

631
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Speaker 8: I'm not used to someone you're saying that.

632
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Speaker 1: Usually guys don't outright now that they usually avoid.

633
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Speaker 7: I don't know, you gotta be a little cocky to

634
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Speaker 7: play CB wide receiver. But I'd also throw Taekwon in there.

635
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Speaker 1: I just forgot forget the best out of that game

636
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Speaker 1: with the first.

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Speaker 7: Group, But they're in their eleven personal I don't want

638
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 7: to Completelyn't bail at all. But he was in there,

639
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 7: and I just between him and Rakers, somebody's got to

640
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 7: bring some speed on the outside. And and that's the

641
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Speaker 7: one thing I feel like that's holding Booty back is

642
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 7: that there's redundancy to the roster with other guys that

643
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Speaker 7: are on the team already, Kendrick Bourne, kJ Osborne, Polk Baker,

644
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 7: they're all kind of similar to Kaishan Booty, whereas maybe

645
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 7: Taekwon hasn't been quite as available or quite as consistent

646
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 7: out here as as a guy like Booty. But he's different. Yeah,

647
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 7: he just plays a different style and that does matter. Like,

648
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 7: you can't have a team of all centers, right, Like

649
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 7: you gotta have some guys that handle the ball and

650
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 7: some guys that play on the wing, and like you

651
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 7: have to build a basketball team almost in those groupings,

652
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Speaker 7: you know, wide receiver and cornerback are often looked at

653
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Speaker 7: that way. So if you have a guy like Taekwon

654
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 7: and Reger, to me, are bolls fighting for the same spot.

655
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 8: I feel like Rigor has the upper hand. And when

656
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 8: it comes to those two, one because of his availability

657
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 8: and two because of his ability to also play on

658
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 8: special teams as a returner. So that's where I'm leaning

659
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 8: more towards Reger. I feel like he's been more consistent.

660
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 8: He hasn't had a ton of drops, and he's been

661
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 8: here every single day versus Thornton.

662
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just balanced that out with the fact that

663
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,239
Speaker 5: Thornton's a guy you took him the second round two

664
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 5: years ago.

665
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: He's on our rookie deal. I mean, Rager has bounced

666
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: around a little bit.

667
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 4: So I mean it's you know, there's no question got

668
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 4: to get typwon Thornton out there and get him consistent,

669
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 4: but you know, real quick, just the thing I want

670
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 4: to point out, like the difference between NFL training staffs,

671
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 4: Like I haven't seen the Patriots sit down and stretch.

672
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 4: I don't remember maybe my first year here, but they

673
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 4: are always walking and doing their stretching.

674
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: The Eagles, you know, doing it a different way.

675
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 4: I always just find it interesting that NFL teams are

676
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 4: on the cutting edge of sports science and everything, and

677
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 4: yet teams still kind of approach warm ups and stretching differently.

678
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: At a lot of ways of ways to stretch the

679
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: body out. I guess Scott and Virginia talking about kishon booty.

680
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: I think Evan answered that question he wanted to know

681
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: what his chances of making the squad I think so far.

682
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: Thumbs up on Poke as a second round pick, right, Yeah, I.

683
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 5: Did insistent I didn't love his tape against Carolina.

684
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

685
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 7: I feel like in some of this is is the

686
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 7: UW offense like that Washington offense. You don't run routes

687
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 7: like you're just running into space. A lot of it's vertical.

688
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 7: They don't really do a whole lot of the first

689
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 7: and second level in terms of row detail. So some

690
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 7: of that stuff is I still think of work in

691
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 7: progress for him that I still don't see a big

692
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 7: time separator. I guess it is like the simplest way

693
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 7: of putting it. And yeah, I like the third down

694
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 7: catch he made against the Panthers was nice to get

695
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 7: strong hands.

696
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: Box the guy. Uh, strong hand.

697
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 4: It's nice, but it's not what it exactly throttling down

698
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 4: on the routes like that. There's just not a sudden

699
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 4: like you know, that kind of cut ability that that creates.

700
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 4: You know, let's face it, very like my separation in

701
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 4: the NFL is very small, but that those are that's

702
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 4: where a lot of it's made.

703
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:36,719
Speaker 1: Uh.

704
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 4: And I feel kind of similarly about Forton, like for

705
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 4: as tall for as fast as he is straight line,

706
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 4: he's not a sudden, boom cut guy.

707
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: He kind of gathers. Yeah, you know, it's it's there's

708
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: a lot of limbs. It's yeah, he's not quick.

709
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's uh, well behind the defense on his deep run.

710
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 4: That's fat well, yeah, like fat like down the field,

711
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 4: That's what I mean. It's just at the time he's

712
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 4: got to go sideways.

713
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 7: It's it's you know, it's not yeah, I'm not losing it,

714
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 7: and I'm not like out on Jalen Polk or anything

715
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 7: like that. But you know, Paul and I have kind

716
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 7: of been on the same side of the street here

717
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 7: with him. It's just I just don't typically love those

718
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 7: types of receivers that are playing in a phone booth

719
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 7: all the time and they're always in congestion or in traffic.

720
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 7: You know, I just feel like when I watch him play,

721
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 7: especially you know, in terms of the details of his routes,

722
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 7: like the stem in particular, he's gonna have to be

723
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 7: a little bit more crafty and a little bit more

724
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 7: just sudden and quick and crafty in those stems to

725
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 7: get guys. You know, guys are just sitting on the

726
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 7: underneath stuff with him, and he's got to find an

727
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 7: element of some sort of take the top off the defense.

728
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 5: And I do like I I like the like the

729
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 5: overall skill set, and I think even in the game,

730
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 5: I agree with Evan that he didn't create much separation,

731
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 5: but he made tough, strong catches in traffic and I'm

732
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 5: like pretty much everybody else early on in that game

733
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 5: he was catching the ball. But I would like it

734
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 5: better if they didn't have And you guys just mentioned

735
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 5: this when you were going over the depth chart at receiver.

736
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 5: I think they have a number of guys that kind

737
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 5: of I think Booty is a similar kind of player,

738
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 5: you know, the less size, But yeah, they have guys

739
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 5: that can sort of win in small areas and be physical.

740
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 5: They don't have a lot of game breaking kind of guys.

741
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: Oh, you're talking about a wide receiver one.

742
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 5: I'm just talking about a skill set. Like Raager has

743
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 5: a different skill set. He's not a wide receiver one,

744
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 5: but he can run.

745
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: You can run.

746
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 5: They don't feel like they don't have a guy who's

747
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 5: really good and can run.

748
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, the only guy that they.

749
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 7: Have that's supposed to that is Pop, and we know

750
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 7: Pop's limitations with his size and his durability. Yeah, he's

751
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 7: the only one that moves differently than other guys on

752
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 7: the field offensively to me. And I just don't look

753
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 7: at Polk and say that he moves differently like that's

754
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 7: that's a dynamic athlete. He just is a really you know,

755
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 7: strong football players and that's okay, but it's just not dynamic.

756
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 5: I will say one thing for him on a pause

757
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 5: in a note to finish from from my perspective, is

758
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 5: I think he's been really consistent. Yes, I think he's

759
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 5: been He's been out there every day. He competes every day.

760
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 5: He catches the ball every day, whereas I think Baker

761
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 5: flashes here and there, and I think he has gotten

762
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 5: kind of progressively more invisible as camp has worn on.

763
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I agree with what you just said,

764
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: Paul about Pope. You know, Jacoby Myers wasn't a second

765
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: round pick. But it's like that. He's he's consistent. He

766
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: catches the ball when it comes to him, you know.

767
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 5: And yeah, I just would like to see him catch

768
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 5: the ball further away from the lasts Immich once in

769
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 5: the last.

770
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've got to call those plays, give him

771
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: a chance.

772
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 5: He has to get open on those points. Yeah, I

773
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 5: think that's what we're talking about.

774
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 7: Jacoby got a lot better as a route runner too,

775
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 7: as his career progressed to the point where like he's

776
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 7: playing with you know, like three D chess on a

777
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 7: lot of routes at that stage of his career, where

778
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 7: whereas what I see with Jalen Polk is like, all right,

779
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 7: the guy's playing eight eight r it's off the line

780
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 7: of scrimmage, and you you stop down on your break

781
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 7: like three yards in front of him, like there's no

782
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 7: reason for him to get back on his horse.

783
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: But that that that's that kind of stem, you know,

784
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: the offense that they used to have. Do they have

785
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: that now where they where the receiver can make that choice? Yeah,

786
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: and they do.

787
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 7: But you know, even if it's a locked route, like

788
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 7: he's running an in cut, you know in the game

789
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 7: last week, and the guy's off of him and he

790
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 7: never gets the defensive back to back up, right, defensive

791
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 7: back's just sitting there the whole time waiting for him

792
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,959
Speaker 7: to run the break. And it's like, if you're gonna

793
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 7: run that against off coverage, you need to get his

794
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 7: hips open so that when you break, he's then got

795
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 7: to switch his hips and get back up field. That's

796
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 7: what craates the underneath separation with him in the game.

797
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 7: It's like he wasn't here. There's no tests, like there's

798
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 7: no conflict in the defender's mind that he's gonna run

799
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 7: by him, and so he's just sitting there waiting for

800
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 7: him to run the brake and then he jumps it

801
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 7: like that. That's the little things that you know, Uh,

802
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 7: Tyler Hughes, Taekwan Underwood, like those guys got to coach.

803
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: Him on what's what's his cone numbers?

804
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 7: Okay, not not anything crazy, but to me, it's more

805
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 7: about like what he was doing in college and how

806
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 7: that college style offense that they're running at Washington is

807
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 7: so different than what you're gonna do in the NFL.

808
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 7: You know, in Washington they're there are four verds, they're

809
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 7: running into zones like they're they're not necessarily doing these

810
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 7: like detailed oriented type of stuff. So I'm confident that

811
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 7: he can develop it. I just don't see it with

812
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 7: him yet.

813
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: Teams are still warming up Ron and Conway. New Hampshire

814
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: says he had all the answers to duces trivia. Paul's

815
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: favorite pick is a two leader diet Pepsi. The founders

816
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: were Fred and Paul and it was originally called Patriots

817
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: Football Weekly. No, that's incorrect. It was not called Patriots

818
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: Football Weekly. That was the name of the newspaper, but

819
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: the show was called PFW in Progress.

820
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 5: So you have kept that a secret. And I would

821
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 5: also say that we weren't the only founders. We have

822
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 5: to put Brian more in more that's true.

823
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 4: How about a Tamara's favorite TV show?

824
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

825
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 5: Oh, that's a good one, you know, right? And favorite movie?

826
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: Favorite movie? Well? Favorite? Can I give you the favorite movie?

827
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 5: You do?

828
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: You have to run the darn ball?

829
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I should have gotten that. You're right, I

830
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 5: should have got.

831
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: I didn't do it with the southern twang.

832
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 4: Cooper g alright, go yeah, oh yeah, So Cooper de

833
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 4: Jean a little bit eagle Sky. That was kind of

834
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 4: he was the punch line of if Bill was here

835
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 4: last year, who would he have drafted in that? Uh,

836
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 4: he's right in that mold of a versatile defensive back

837
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 4: who highly athletic.

838
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 5: He's known for a lot of different things.

839
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, Bill on the On the Draft Show, when could

840
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 7: they drafted Cooper de Jean, the pants are off. He

841
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 7: was like, this guy plays everywhere. He can play safety,

842
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 7: he can play slot, he can play outside, play special teams.

843
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: Did you did you catch the weapon punting for the

844
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: Panthers on Thursday Johnny Hecker the well.

845
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 5: Did you see when he made a tackle he gave

846
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 5: the too small side. He's dropped off a little bit. Oh,

847
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 5: he was terrible in that game. Yeah, I'm looking forward

848
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 5: to seeing our wide receivers versus Quentyan.

849
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: Mitchell, Yeah, Darius Sligh and and I wasn't in a C. J.

850
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 4: Gardner Johnson. He's a little feisty too, right, Like I

851
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 4: feel like, yeah, that's what I was thinking. Like, I'm like,

852
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 4: if there's anybody who's going to be in the middle

853
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 4: of it, it's probably gonna be that guy.

854
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 8: I feel like the person you would have to look

855
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 8: out for in the situation is like Baker. Yeah, I

856
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 8: could I could see I could see Baker chirping.

857
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 4: Oh he's he's he's got to keep it under wraps.

858
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 4: But hey, you know who I want to talk about

859
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 4: real quick is I forgot about Shaqeen Bell Jaquem Bell.

860
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 4: He's heard a while, he's come back he's been easing

861
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 4: his way in. I think when he have one catch

862
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 4: yesterday the other night, Yeah, and he had a touchdown yesterday.

863
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I just you've seen eighty seven

864
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: get a lot of snaps. Which one is that? Now?

865
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: Is that still so called let's jack of my te

866
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: three at eighty seven? But I don't know. I'm just

867
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: intrigued by him.

868
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 4: I thought, he, you know, has some movement skills and

869
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 4: you know, some quickness and some you know, decent size

870
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 4: and you know, we just go back to Elliot Wolf

871
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 4: talking about we want to play the young guys. And

872
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 4: when you're looking at making roster cutdowns, it's, you know,

873
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 4: is are you going to keep a TE three just

874
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 4: to block somebody? Or you know, do you hang on

875
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 4: to a seventh round pick who's got some athletic upside

876
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 4: that you know, who knows might be able to help

877
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 4: this offense that you know clearly still looking for answers

878
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 4: in a number of different places.

879
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 5: And I think that's the answer to the question, which

880
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 5: one do they want? Because I don't think Henry O.

881
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 5: Hooper offers much as a physical presence. So do you

882
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 5: want to keep Bill Cox because he can block or

883
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 5: do you just say, well, we don't really have a

884
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 5: traditional blocking tight end. This guy's younger and more athletic.

885
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 5: Let's go with Bell. I personally would go with Bell.

886
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 5: Now I've seen absolutely nothing from Bell and Kim yep, no,

887
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 5: I know that because he hasn't been out here enough

888
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 5: to make it impression. But I personally would rather go

889
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 5: with an athletic guy who might potentially have a higher ceiling.

890
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'd also say, I mean Willcox it drops excluded,

891
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 4: which there have been a few, like to way too many.

892
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 4: But is he really a te three that moves the

893
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 4: needle as a you know, like wouldn't I'd just rather

894
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 4: keep a third tackle and you know, make it Kayden

895
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 4: Wallace if he's not starting.

896
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 7: If they had one of those, yeah, yeah they will.

897
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 7: Coox to me, has struggled in all faces. Yes, So

898
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 7: I'm really not trying to like rack up the guy.

899
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 7: But even blocking in the game I thought was rough

900
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 7: for him. You know, he misses the sif while coming across.

901
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 7: That's a one yard run for Antonio Gibson. Then he

902
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 7: gets called for a hold. You know, runner bounces outside

903
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 7: off his hip and he gets called for a hold.

904
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 7: There I just I don't really see it with will

905
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 7: Cox being an NFL player. So if if I'm the Patriots,

906
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 7: I'm trusting the scout with Jahane Bell.

907
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: Like you got to. He's got this player in the draft.

908
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 7: He hasn't been able to participate in the summer yet

909
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 7: at the level that you wanted him to. But just

910
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 7: trust what you saw, you know, in college, and roll

911
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 7: with that. Now, what about the other two guys we

912
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,479
Speaker 7: haven't really talked about.

913
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: I mean, that way is out there a lot.

914
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 4: I mean, they run a lot of three stuff and

915
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 4: with Hunter Henry's been out, they've had you know, they've

916
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 4: had those guys out there with some of the.

917
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 5: Quote unquote talk groups.

918
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 4: I just think it's a signal that they definitely want to,

919
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 4: you know, have some three tight end packages that they're

920
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 4: going to use this year. And I guess that then

921
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 4: goes back to the question of you know, are you

922
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 4: are you looking for a guy like Bell who can

923
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: maybe move the needle a little bit athletically, maybe gives

924
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 4: you you know, I know, Austin Hooper's been pretty good

925
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 4: in camp, but one year deal veteran kind of a

926
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 4: guy would love to maybe groom a guy like Bell

927
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 4: behind him to to you know, be that air apparent

928
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 4: as a as a tight end behind Hunter Henry.

929
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, Michael Petaway, I keep calling Peedaway Michael Petway reminds

930
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 7: me a little bit of Jeene Bell, Like I feel

931
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 7: like he's got a similar body type. Not necessarily someone

932
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 7: who's gonna put his hand in the dirt and like

933
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 7: dig people out, but like can move around and block

934
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 7: in space and block on the move. I to me, like,

935
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 7: why would you keep the older player? But in that instance,

936
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 7: like why didn't you just keep the younger one? But

937
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 7: I do think those guys have some similarities to each other.

938
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 7: James Belt might be a little bit bigger, a little

939
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 7: taller if I had to just looking at them right now.

940
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 7: But I just feel like their skill sets are pretty

941
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 7: pretty overlapping.

942
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 4: I hope Eagles are cool with the playlist today. Is

943
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 4: that maybe we have discussed that I want make Collapped

944
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 4: on it.

945
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 8: I think we're only going to hear hip hop today.

946
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 8: No Metallica, no whatever was playing yesterday and run the.

947
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: Country to run.

948
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 5: I had to explained Nirvana to Evan this is called

949
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 5: smells like team spirit, Evan, this is grunge and it's.

950
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: Like anybody by the name of Brownie ring a belt

951
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: to you. Oh yeah, it's my college roommate. He's writing it.

952
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: He wants to get an audio clip of you saying

953
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 1: that Howie Roseman is the best GM in football.

954
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 7: Shout out Brownie him in my roommate Jamie there there

955
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 7: both from Philadelphia, in the Wayne, Pennsylvania area, right around

956
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 7: King of Prussia. And they are our giant Giant Eagles.

957
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 7: Fins to catch that they all twenty two flys fly.

958
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 7: I heard go birds for four straight years, every single

959
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 7: Sunday in the fall.

960
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: I hope you weren't in college in twenty seventeen though

961
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: I was. No, I wasn't.

962
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 5: I was out of college at that point.

963
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: I was in college.

964
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 7: There was maybe one game Pat's Eagles Chip Kelly j Yeah,

965
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 7: and then I was in college for the Malcolm Butler

966
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 7: Super Bowl and in the second Giant Super Bowl. So

967
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 7: they saw me win and lose the Super Bowl in college.

968
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 7: Very different reactions to those.

969
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: Well, Will Wrights in I just watched the replay of

970
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: the Thursday game against the Panthers. If the Patriots don't

971
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: give Joe Milton an adequate opportunity to prove what he

972
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: could do at the pro level, they are doomed to

973
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: repeat the same missteps they've made since the departure of

974
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: the vote. They should not be afraid to repeat the

975
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: Bledsoe Brady scenario.

976
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 4: I'm not afraid to do it. I just like I

977
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 4: think it's a great thing for the team that you

978
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 4: have a young quarterback with helm. I just question is

979
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 4: what did you see from Joe Milton in that game

980
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 4: that makes you so sure that he that he's an

981
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 4: untapped gem right now?

982
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,479
Speaker 5: So I'm not even going to talk about the game,

983
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 5: but I'm going to ask a comparison. Did you think

984
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 5: that the Patriots were afraid last year like they were

985
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 5: guilty of being afraid of letting Malik Hunningham play. Do

986
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 5: you think that was part of it, Like they didn't

987
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 5: want to admit that the the undrafted guy was better

988
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 5: than now?

989
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: No, I don't think.

990
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 5: I just think they analyze the guys, they evaluate, and

991
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 5: they go off of what they see.

992
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, Like I also think who he was out there

993
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 8: playing against, Like the Panthers started the game with their backup,

994
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 8: So by that point that.

995
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 5: Milton was in who was he actually playing against? I

996
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 5: was he needs to chill out? I don't like chill out.

997
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 5: I just wouldn't want to, like go back and look

998
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 5: at what he did. Like his handles a snapper, he

999
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 5: runs around twenty yards behind the line of scrimmage with

1000
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 5: his back, you know, to the defense, and he like

1001
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 5: just runs away from it, like.

1002
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 4: Almost throws a pick six. It's a wide open guy

1003
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 4: on a double move. That's like, yeah, it's fine. I

1004
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 4: don't the touchdown.

1005
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 5: I want to give him a lot of credit on though,

1006
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 5: because everybody just keeps saying he was wide open. Part

1007
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 5: of the reason he was wide open was because of him.

1008
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 5: Milton did a really good job of looking at Now

1009
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 5: the cornerback was awful on the play, calm, but he

1010
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 5: eliminated the safety with his eyes on his shoulders and

1011
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 5: then kind of came back again. The cornerback blows the play,

1012
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 5: blows the coverage. But I want to give Milton credit

1013
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 5: for the touchdown pass because I think he did everything right.

1014
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: On that play. Yeah, yeah, don't. I don't want to

1015
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: gloss over that. He did exactly what we thought he

1016
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: was going to do, and it came in and he

1017
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: added some excitement to the game.

1018
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 5: Ye I would have thought he would have looked better

1019
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 5: than that. To be honest with you, I would have

1020
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 5: thought that it would have been smoother than that.

1021
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: No, and I mean talking to thatvan yesterday. I mean

1022
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: like he's shown improvement.

1023
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 4: And again, like, I don't think it's a bad thing

1024
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 4: to have another quarterback on the Like, I don't care

1025
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 4: who wins the next Patriots Super Bowl as quarterback.

1026
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: I just want to win.

1027
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 5: Great And I'm all on the Joe Milton fan west.

1028
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we came out of that game on Thursday

1029
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 4: night and Joe Milton didn't get a single rep. Like,

1030
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 4: the coaching staff is telling us collectively that Drake May

1031
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 4: is our guy. He's the future, He's the one we're

1032
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 4: investing in right now, and as we can slowly develop

1033
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 4: Joe Milton, if he gets it, great, He's an asset,

1034
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 4: he's a backup, he's insurance. And those are all wonderful

1035
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 4: things to have. But listen to what the coaching staff

1036
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 4: is telling it. You not you know a bunch of

1037
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 4: media members or fans who watch three plays in a

1038
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 4: preseason game and say, oh my god, this is the answer.

1039
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of fans think, oh, well,

1040
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: they drafted May and you know, three overall, they have

1041
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: to protect that otherwise, you know, they get proven wrong.

1042
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, winning is more important than that.

1043
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: If they think that Joe Milton is a better quarterback,

1044
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: Joe Milton will play.

1045
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 5: And if and if Joe Milton is a better quarterback,

1046
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 5: I don't think there are people around here that are

1047
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 5: going to say, well, that's no good.

1048
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: I know, forget it. I don't want it. I'd rather

1049
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: lose with you. Joe Bilton deserves to play.

1050
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 7: I wanted to make it's not exactly apples to apples

1051
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 7: because in the situations that you teams are in, but

1052
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 7: like in San Francisco, they have They're not going brock

1053
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 7: pretty Trey Lance like we messed up, like you know

1054
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 7: said that, Yeah they have pretty, but they The thing

1055
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 7: about the touchdown pass two that was really impressive to

1056
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 7: me was how he reads the safety rotation because like

1057
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 7: there it's a mirrored concept where they have the same

1058
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 7: routes on both sides, and he's supposed to read the

1059
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 7: rotation of the safeties and work the side that's the

1060
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 7: weak side of the formation based off of the rotation.

1061
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 7: So the safety comes walking down to his right side,

1062
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 7: so he starts on his right side, stares down the

1063
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 7: right sideline and then he knows he has one on

1064
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 7: one back side because of the way that the safety

1065
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 7: is rotated. It was a it was a scripted shot put.

1066
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 7: So I don't want to like get too jazzed up

1067
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 7: about it because they clearly practiced it. And then that

1068
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 7: they said to him, this is what you do. You know,

1069
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 7: you look off the safety this way, you come back,

1070
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 7: you know, look right and come back left. And he

1071
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 7: hit He did it, and he hit it perfectly. But dude,

1072
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 7: you know, you mentioned the little things that I feel

1073
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 7: like he has improved on. His footwork is much better

1074
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 7: now than it was at Tennessee. At Tennessee, he'd get

1075
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 7: to the top of his drop and he would sink

1076
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 7: in the mud and his feet would just be stuck

1077
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 7: there and he wouldn't move off his spot in the game.

1078
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 5: On Thursday night, he moved around.

1079
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: Heaven to Tennessee. Caleb from Knoxville rights in die hard

1080
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: volunteer fan said, Joe Milton is not an NFL caliber

1081
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: quarterback at least at this time. He was nowhere close

1082
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: to it. Everybody, chill out. Remember this time last year,

1083
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: Malik Mania was out of control.

1084
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 5: Now.

1085
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 4: I mean, I just this is different to me than

1086
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 4: the leage because Malik was just like, like I mean,

1087
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 4: I guess it was similar in an effect that people

1088
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 4: were seeing what they wanted to see in a preseason game,

1089
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 4: and then we go to practice and like he doesn't

1090
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 4: play quarterback, like you know, he threw like one pass

1091
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 4: and you know which I think we all thought was

1092
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 4: a terrible pass that was actually a great catch, you know.

1093
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: I just I don't want to disparage it.

1094
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 4: As if like I don't want Joe Milton to be

1095
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 4: good like I would.

1096
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: I would love it. I would love it.

1097
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 4: But we just got to be honest to what we're

1098
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 4: seeing here, and that is not a team that is

1099
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 4: like you know, I would say similarly, as it's frustrating

1100
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 4: that it doesn't really feel like Drake May is getting

1101
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 4: an actual chance to compete for the starting job in camp. Similarly,

1102
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 4: Joe Milton is not really getting a chance right now

1103
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 4: to compete to be the top backup.

1104
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's gonna like what two reps now, did barely

1105
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 8: even get any reps in yesterday, barely.

1106
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 4: It's hard to it's hard to even keep track, and

1107
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 4: a lot of times it's like opportunity reps at the

1108
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 4: very end where it's you know, it's they get like

1109
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 4: one or two, not like we're about to get going.

1110
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 5: So the one on ones have begun. You got some

1111
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 5: Patriots running backs going against the linebackers for Philadelphia. Uh,

1112
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 5: you got bustlessly, you get like the full corners stral

1113
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 5: You've got different one on ones going in different areas

1114
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 5: in the field. Yeah, it's gonna be tough to sort

1115
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 5: of keep track of everything, but we will do the

1116
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 5: best to us.

1117
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,479
Speaker 6: So why don't why don't we split up a little

1118
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 6: bit because you really have four things going on at

1119
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 6: the same time.

1120
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: Evan and I did.

1121
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 4: I'm going to watch the defense, uh, and Evan's gonna

1122
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 4: try to watch the offense just for the two of us.

1123
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: Okay, breaking things up a little bit. But we got

1124
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: defensive on ones here.

1125
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, we got defense on the right, offense on the

1126
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 5: left for the Patriots obviously, where this is not the

1127
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 5: Eagles broadcast wide receivers going against the Darius Slagh with

1128
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 5: really nice coverage on Jalen Reagh that was nice. Looks

1129
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 5: like a flag came out though maybe it was too good.

1130
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 5: Too good a coverage for Darius Lay Marco Wilson's had

1131
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 5: a good play against.

1132
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 7: Really good c j Azuma, really good wrapping one on

1133
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 7: ones for Canadian Wallace. He's actually struggled and Jim he's

1134
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 7: ad a little bit this summer, i'd say, but he

1135
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 7: just put Brandon Grahant into the ground.

1136
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: Savvy vet.

1137
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 5: Right, well Cox, I think that was on mail drop

1138
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 5: touchdown there for fortyen Al Austin got burned but made

1139
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 5: up for the drop.

1140
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can uh camera a little

1141
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: bit more wide angle just so we can see.

1142
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 4: Oh god, this is see this is so hard. There's

1143
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 4: just so much going on. You're like, I know, hit

1144
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 4: in a toy store like this, But what about this

1145
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 4: nice play by Jalen Hurst playing throw.

1146
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, these drills like this is this is just impossible

1147
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 5: for the for the defense, there's so much space to cover.

1148
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 4: We've got Davante Smith against Christian Gonzalez a little bit interesting,

1149
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 4: just threw the brakes on and yeah, nice patch by Pope.

1150
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: Showing a little personality there with the catch and what

1151
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: would you call that move that he did. I don't know.

1152
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: I came to it late. I wasn't sure what it was.

1153
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 5: The finger underneath the nose.

1154
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't smell this kind of you kind of

1155
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: like a Jude on thing. Oh oh, booty just gets

1156
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 1: stick the how did two balls get on the field?

1157
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 5: Porn a route from the other side. That's probably for

1158
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 5: the best.

1159
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna lean heavily into team Bills because that's a

1160
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: whole We got four sets of one on one is

1161
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: going on right now.

1162
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 5: Patriot's backup offensive line is having some issues right now.

1163
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 5: So I will say during the game the other night,

1164
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 5: not there wasn't a lot made of it, but that

1165
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 5: line really struggled, especially the two tackles. They're struggling. Oh yeah,

1166
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 5: big time right now, pad level one, Baker really.

1167
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: Too high, Baker put the brakes on, came back, and

1168
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: zc hurt showing on a j Brown.

1169
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 7: Now it's my personal vendetta Deuce to get people to

1170
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 7: stop holorifying one on one.

1171
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna mention Drended's schooler is just all

1172
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 4: over seven.

1173
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 5: But these one on ones look like.

1174
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 8: They're actually trying compared to the ones that we've seen

1175
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 8: in Yeah, but you actually see them making move.

1176
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: You kind of have to grab him at the top

1177
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 1: of the router or else. You're cooked.

1178
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 4: A quick question for the group armand wants uh Buster

1179
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 4: Bubble seen anything from him?

1180
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 7: Really, Yeah, it's a good question. I think he's on

1181
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 7: the team, but not based off of what he's done

1182
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 7: in camp. Mostly based off of what he's done. Say,

1183
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 7: he doesn't get a ton of high level reps Pop Douglas,

1184
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 7: a lot of more. Jeremiah Farms, Kristin Hill.

1185
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: About to go, oh, oh, thank you, Mary appreciates you.

1186
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 5: Eagles defensive line.

1187
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: Here he goes flag on that play that is called

1188
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: off coverage right there.

1189
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 5: There's some uh they're calling him tight. Oh put your

1190
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 5: flag away.

1191
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: It was only only three flags.

1192
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 4: I don't know about that. That's that's a tough call.

1193
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 4: All right, here we go again, Christian azell Son, he

1194
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 4: could Smith again. So we talked at the beginning when

1195
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,479
Speaker 4: you sort of said they can sort of script this stuff.

1196
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 4: And you see, like Peppers was on Goddard like that.

1197
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 5: That's not an accident, right, you know, like they want

1198
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 5: to get the front line guys going against each other,

1199
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 5: and that's that's.

1200
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: Part of the script.

1201
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 4: Yes, DeVante Smith said two pretty easy catches on Yeah,

1202
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 4: Christian zalaz that's the thing I.

1203
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: Mean Gonzales is playing off. You gotta you gotta get

1204
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: in his face and make contact.

1205
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 4: I did, uh, But by the way I did. I

1206
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 4: know that's kind of a little bit of a point

1207
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 4: of discussion.

1208
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: I did go back. He didn't have a great Packers

1209
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: joint practice either, Gonzales he got picked on a couple

1210
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: of times. Yeah.

1211
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 5: No, that that's sort of wants a story that's gained

1212
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 5: a little traction in the last couple of days that

1213
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 5: maybe this has just been kind of an average camp

1214
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 5: for a little I think part of the thing too

1215
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 5: that I would agree, but I don't know if it

1216
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 5: means anything. I like he lets his game do the

1217
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 5: talking in games, like he doesn't. I think he was

1218
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 5: a lot better once we got to the season than

1219
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 5: I thought he was, like I thought, you know, but

1220
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 5: I think part of it is to me or two.

1221
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 5: And you know, people are used to these you know,

1222
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 5: corners with a little bit of an edge and a

1223
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 5: little cocky, and he's just, you know, kind of quiet.

1224
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 5: I just I think that plays against him a little bit.

1225
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 4: And you know, you want loo do you want cornerbacks

1226
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 4: whore gonna come out here that want the top guy

1227
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 4: that are going to be in his face and feisty.

1228
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 5: If I don't want to step on your toes. But

1229
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 5: I just I just peeked at the offensive line for

1230
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 5: a second and I looked up and Calvin Anderson was

1231
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 5: chasing the guy that.

1232
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not been pretty. It's not been pretty. Oh,

1233
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,720
Speaker 7: I mean nothing that you didn't expect. This Eagle's defensive

1234
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 7: front's pretty stacked.

1235
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 5: But I just.

1236
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: Sat Wallace a lot of.

1237
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 5: L's, yeah, a lot of els.

1238
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 8: I will say something about I would say John Jones

1239
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 8: isn't really like a chirper either, though I feel like

1240
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 8: he's he's not really like a in your face like

1241
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 8: of course he might celebrate a good play.

1242
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: But he's not. I mean, I you know, and I

1243
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: don't want to say it like that just to make

1244
00:55:59,040 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: a play.

1245
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think you want to just exer

1246
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 5: by Polk right there.

1247
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: Real nice shape, Yeah he heard us, very nice.

1248
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 4: So we uh for the Eagles here uh wide receivers

1249
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 4: and Patriots TV's we've moved down into their.

1250
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 5: Ten yard line or so, so little more condensed. This

1251
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 5: has been a pretty ugly one on ones for City.

1252
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 5: So also had some issues in the game, I thought too, Yeah,

1253
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 5: just seemed like class, like just seemed all over the place.

1254
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, playing a little too fast.

1255
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, he did not play well in the game.

1256
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 5: He also missed a little time heading in. I thought

1257
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 5: there was some odd sort of personnel decisions in the

1258
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 5: preseason game based on you know, Jukes had missed three

1259
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 5: straight practices. Yeah, and then he's out there. Maybe he

1260
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 5: just wasn't physically ready to play, you know, because he

1261
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 5: struggled a little bit too. Yeah. Just see both both sides.

1262
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 5: The receivers are consistently getting open. Now. The quarterbacks not

1263
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 5: always making the uh, making the connections, but the receivers

1264
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 5: are open. Yeah.

1265
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: The two boxes on your screen right now, Brown, job

1266
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: buy our.

1267
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 5: He's just too easy.

1268
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, too physical, Brown, very very physical. That one will

1269
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: always hurt.

1270
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 7: Christian zaz is the least of my worries. Like I get,

1271
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 7: if you're gonna be honest about what we've seen in camp.

1272
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 7: He hasn't been this lockdown corner in camp, there's no

1273
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 7: doubt about that. But they got much bigger problems than

1274
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 7: Christian Zalesh. I would agree with that, But what if

1275
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 7: he is not as good as we think?

1276
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know.

1277
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 7: I mean, like I guess It's like if you were

1278
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 7: on the fitting in for the red jacket, you know,

1279
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 7: team and so in other which if you're a member

1280
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 7: of the local media, I don't it depends on what

1281
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 7: you thought it was as good as you think.

1282
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 5: You know. I I I just what if he's not

1283
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 5: a lockdown number one quarter, if he's just what if

1284
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 5: he's just an Okay, what if he's Jonathan Jones.

1285
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: I think he got problems. I mean, to be honest,

1286
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: I don't agree with you.

1287
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 4: To be honest, he is not in my head as

1288
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 4: a lockdown corner I mean, I'm excited about him, but

1289
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 4: that would be it.

1290
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: He is a jump to me.

1291
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 5: See, I think most people would say, well, you got

1292
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 5: the one guy. He's our sauce gardener, Like we have

1293
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 5: the one guy on that side that we don't have

1294
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 5: to worry about the other team's best.

1295
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: I want him to be a Pro Bowl caliber cornerback.

1296
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta see a full season of that.

1297
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think. I'm not saying he is That's

1298
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 5: what I want him to be. Know me too, that

1299
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 5: I'm not saying kind of expected to be. I'm just saying,

1300
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 5: what if he isn't. I'm not saying he is or

1301
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 5: he isn't. I'm just saying what if he isn't, because

1302
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 5: I think they're kind of relying on him to be that.

1303
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 5: Oh a guy just felt dude fell in the middle

1304
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 5: of the field for Philly. Ah, it's allas held his

1305
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 5: own there with a J Brown a little bit. I

1306
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 5: don't know if he's are one on ones, I'm not

1307
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 5: going to make toom bigger deal of him.

1308
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 8: No, thank you, thank you, I will say, Pelagrino said

1309
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 8: yesterday when he was asked about Christian Gonzalez his camp,

1310
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 8: he was like, he's one on ones or for the offense,

1311
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 8: they're not for the defense.

1312
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, eighty three John Ross.

1313
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 5: Okay, so he seemed pretty cool about where Gonzalez is

1314
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 5: right now.

1315
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: But what I saw last year for Gonzales, even in

1316
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: the one on ones, was this fluidity that all the

1317
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: lockdown corners have this ability to just change direction and

1318
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: stay with the guy. That's really hard to do. I'm

1319
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: not quite seeing that right now. I don't, you know.

1320
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 5: That's what I've seen more from Polk right now. Although

1321
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,439
Speaker 5: he's going to get as going to get a penalty there. Yeah,

1322
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 5: but he had trouble creating separation on that one. But

1323
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 5: you got the holding call, So I think Gonzo is

1324
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 5: gonna be fine. Yeah, I'm not telling you too, but

1325
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 5: don't I think you're kind of taking us to a

1326
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 5: different place. I'm not telling you I'm worried about Christian Gonzalez.

1327
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, what if he's not a top flight

1328
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 5: shut down corner, I think that's what they're relying on.

1329
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the biggest thing with him is just

1330
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 7: he's one of those guys that you have to push

1331
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 7: the right buttons with him to get him motivated and

1332
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 7: get him locked in. But I'm less worried about that

1333
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 7: happening in a regular season game than I am out

1334
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 7: here in practice. Like I get it at practice, it's

1335
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 7: gonna be difficult at times to get his motor to

1336
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 7: one hundred and ten percent. It's just is not his demeanor.

1337
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 7: But in terms of when we get into the games

1338
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 7: and stuff like that, like when he's lining up against

1339
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 7: Jamar Chase in Week one, and I don't think that

1340
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 7: he's gonna be going at ninety percent against Jamar Chase. Like,

1341
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 7: I think he'll turn it up and I think he'll

1342
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 7: be fine. I just I don't I think there's too

1343
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 7: much raw talent and ability there for me to not

1344
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 7: think that he's going to be a stud. It's She's

1345
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 7: just he's everything that you look for at that position,

1346
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 7: especially on the outside.

1347
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 5: It's like they'll work into some seven on seven now, yeah.

1348
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 1: All right, and then I'm gonna do it. Yeah, I'm

1349
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: gonna do it right now? What are you doing? I

1350
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: just I'm disappointed in Kem White. I don't see.

1351
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 4: I don't see, really, I don't see much there. I

1352
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 4: gotta be honest, I I just don't. I mean, I

1353
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 4: want him to be good. I've said it, but like

1354
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 4: and Van and I have been talking about this. I

1355
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,479
Speaker 4: know he got pumped up early in camp. I haven't

1356
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 4: heard as much of that from other members of the media,

1357
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 4: but for me, he's playing a lot and in these

1358
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 4: one on ones throughout the summer, he's stiff.

1359
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: He just doesn't really have a lot of savvy to

1360
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: his game. He doesn't have a lot of wiggle.

1361
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 4: He's a just a head down, bull rush kind of

1362
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 4: a guy. Now, it just it feels too similar to

1363
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 4: me to Anthony Jennings. I mean, I said to Evan yesterday,

1364
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 4: like three and a half sacks between those two guys

1365
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 4: this year, Like would you bet be over because I

1366
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 4: just don't think either one of them have the speed

1367
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 4: or the savvy to be consistent pass rush threats. I

1368
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 4: think they might be fine as edge setters, but unless

1369
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 4: key On White has a different gear that we haven't

1370
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 4: seen yet, I just I haven't seen.

1371
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the magic from.

1372
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 7: Him so well, but he wasn't a pass rusher in college,

1373
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 7: So why are we expecting him to be a pass

1374
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 7: rusher now?

1375
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: Exactly?

1376
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 7: Like, but that's the narrative that is out there, is

1377
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 7: that he's gonna make this huge leap and be this

1378
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 7: disruptive force. And I just think Duce and I both

1379
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 7: have not necessarily seen that out of him. Like he

1380
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 7: doesn't get off blocks, Like he can go through blocks,

1381
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 7: but he doesn't get off blocks.

1382
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: So like, if you're gonna have actual.

1383
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 5: Production, had a good pass break up over there, he

1384
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 5: was with.

1385
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: Them, right with them.

1386
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, So no Jonathan Jones, no Marcus Jones in these

1387
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 5: you know, sort of quasi competitive reps as we expected.

1388
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 5: Marco Wilson is out there with Gonzales, and then it

1389
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 5: looks like Isaiah Bolden is that Bolden Wick Duggar and uh,

1390
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 5: Peppers sort of with five dbs and then a couple

1391
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 5: of linebackers, so Nickel package you get Bolden and Marco

1392
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:47,439
Speaker 5: Wilson out there.

1393
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 1: I just say too.

1394
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 4: Another thing is where's josh uj been on camp? I

1395
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 4: I mean, I haven't seen him make a play. I

1396
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 4: don't participating. I know he's physically he's up to speed, don't.

1397
01:02:58,920 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: I don't.

1398
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 5: I don't think he's done anything. Yeah, you know against

1399
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 5: the defense.

1400
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 4: Really, that's why when I look at it through the

1401
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 4: lens of like, I can't worry about Gonzales because I'm

1402
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 4: just so much more worried about his pass rush.

1403
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: That's what I think you guys both said.

1404
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 5: And I'm a lot more worried about things more than Gonzales,

1405
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 5: I would agree.

1406
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just sort of most because in my mind,

1407
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 4: he's an athletic, promising outside corner. I'm not thinking that

1408
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 4: he's a Hall of Famer already and that you know,

1409
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 4: we need him to be our number. Like I'm excited

1410
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 4: to see him play, But I mean three games and

1411
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 4: change it was good. I hope that it hits, you know,

1412
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 4: another level kind of like I feel like it did

1413
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 4: last year in the games and all of a sudden,

1414
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 4: he fits into the defense really well because he moves

1415
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 4: so well, and there's you know, he's gonna be able

1416
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 4: to make up ground. But I don't know, I'm just overall,

1417
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 4: I would say a little bit concerned about these you know,

1418
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 4: young pass rush types that we're supposed to be counting

1419
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 4: on this year. I just don't see a lot of juice.

1420
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 5: So the Patriots offenses kind of like we've seen during

1421
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 5: during the camp. It's a lot of a lot of

1422
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 5: short throws and check downs.

1423
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: Kerch long and complete.

1424
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 4: That's a play right there. I mean it's that Smith Dugger, Yeah, Overdugger.

1425
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 4: Just you know, I mean that that's a mismatch.

1426
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: That's the play where it looks kind of covered and

1427
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: then he just kind of wrist in the right.

1428
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 5: So anybody see the play was at his zone? Yeah,

1429
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 5: So who was the corner that was supposed to be

1430
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 5: there should have dropped out?

1431
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: It might have been Dial. I'm not sure if they

1432
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: rotated before.

1433
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, but was just like, you know a little bit

1434
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 5: of that. You know, you got Marcellus Dial, Sean Wade.

1435
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 5: Oh no, I'm sorry, that's Isaiah Alex Austin, not not

1436
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 5: Sean Wade. So you got a zz hearn. This is like,

1437
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 5: I think the depth is an issue, like you know

1438
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 5: you're missing a guy or two in the two Jones is.

1439
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 5: I think it drops off quickly. But Mike Pellegrino doesn't agree.

1440
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.

1441
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 5: Gonna say this, children. I was surprised yesterday when Pelgrino

1442
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 5: was asked who's shocked him the most of this camp

1443
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 5: and he said it was an easy herder. Yeah, I

1444
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 5: was not expecting that, honestly. Yeah, I just I don't know.

1445
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 5: I just haven't seen it. I've seen those guys struggling.

1446
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: Wow, another deep past the fleet. That's Austin.

1447
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 5: I do not think Alex Austin has been very getting

1448
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 5: camp either.

1449
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: He's he's given up.

1450
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 5: Is that John Ross? Yes it was eighty three, Yes,

1451
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 5: it was all right. So there's a guy it's a

1452
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 5: reclamation project of Philadelphia trying to get something out of him.

1453
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 5: He's made some place.

1454
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: Yep, Yeah, I noticed the rule.

1455
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 4: It's like, I don't know, I haven't seen a lot

1456
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 4: of our offense, but there guys seem to be catching

1457
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 4: the ball on the run and our guys seem to

1458
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 4: be catching it and fallowing.

1459
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 5: I just I want to see it like. See the

1460
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 5: Eagles have thrown some quick passes, some quick outs, you know,

1461
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 5: and they've also pushed the ball downfield, you know, not

1462
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 5: always successfully, but they've they've done it. The Patriots just

1463
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 5: seemed like they they're content to throw a lot of checkdowns.

1464
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 5: I'd like to see them opening up again, you know,

1465
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 5: see if Drake May, let's run loose here. Yeah, here's

1466
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 5: one right down the sideline.

1467
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: The Baker.

1468
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 5: On Clay You're welcome, You welcome Patriots.

1469
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: Yeah that was a downfield down the right sideline and

1470
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: May connected with Baker.

1471
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, good route to Jay Javon Baker there on the ground.

1472
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 7: Like how he kept the space I was like, how

1473
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 7: we gave himself some room on the side room line.

1474
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: This is the day Drake May made the Patriots his Team's.

1475
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 5: Just nice to see you.

1476
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 4: This was the day that Mac Jones did nice uh

1477
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 4: passed downfield accuracy.

1478
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, your Kobe Brissett is out there, he doesn't have

1479
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 5: the luxury that Mac Jones did and went right back

1480
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 5: to check buns.

1481
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: Okay. I was think you got early down, early downplay.

1482
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 7: The whole handling of the quarterbacks have grounded my gears

1483
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 7: a little bit. Well, I'm not there yet to like

1484
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:11,919
Speaker 7: go on crazy about it, but let.

1485
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: Me read this email from Matt. He says, what's your

1486
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: take on AVP? The talking heads like Beatle are steadfast

1487
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: at AVP is a Prisette guy and isn't the best

1488
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: person to be vested into May. That the system AVP

1489
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: and others was not compiled with May's best interest and

1490
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: this team is actually designed for Brissett's skills. They made

1491
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: this claim based on AVP being the head coach of

1492
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: the offense per Mayo and it being a VP and

1493
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: others who have come up with the slow developing May plan.

1494
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: I think it's a little presumptuous to think he's not

1495
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: a may guy. But man, do they make Apelling debate

1496
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 1: on ninety eight point?

1497
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 10: Now?

1498
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 4: It just doesn't make sense to me. So AVP is like,

1499
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 4: I want to have a two year career here and

1500
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 4: then that's it. Like I mean, if he wants to

1501
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 4: have a long term career as an offensive coordinator and

1502
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 4: really like establish himself, right, it's with Drake May, you know,

1503
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 4: Like he's the guy that developed Drake May build his house.

1504
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 1: You know, on top of Jacobe Brissett.

1505
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 4: Like that doesn't make any sense to me, Like, I

1506
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 4: get it, Like you want to criticize them for being

1507
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 4: too conservative with him in the first preseason game.

1508
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: Sure, I get it.

1509
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I think that whole storyline

1510
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 4: might be completely moot after this practice and Thursday Night's

1511
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 4: game if he plays a ton So I don't know,

1512
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 4: we'll see.

1513
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of guys involved in

1514
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: this quarterback. There's there's obviously Van Pelt, but then you've

1515
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:32,560
Speaker 1: got McCartney and you've got McAdoo, And you wonder, like,

1516
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 1: when we're not watching, what who's really the person one

1517
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: on one?

1518
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 5: You know?

1519
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: Is it a VP? It may not be.

1520
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 5: It could be based on what Mayo says, it's Alex

1521
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 5: Van Pelt's. I mean he called him the head coach

1522
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 5: of the offense. He's the guy, yeah, that he referred

1523
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 5: to when he talked about the plan for the preseason

1524
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 5: or with Alex van Pell.

1525
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm talking about the one on one

1526
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 1: with with may.

1527
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 5: I'm guessing that that's Van Pelt.

1528
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: Well, it's hard to do that and be in charge

1529
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: of everything else on the offense, is what I'm saying.

1530
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 1: You have to delegate a little bit so hard jump.

1531
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 1: You know, that's why you have this quarterbacks coach. You know,

1532
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: you would think the quarterbacks coach would be the guy.

1533
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, the quarterbacks coach. He's gonna have a

1534
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 5: lot of experience. C McCartney.

1535
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: This is as full as I've seen this place. I

1536
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 1: mean it is swamped out there, even during the Brady days. Yeah,

1537
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: yea more. It's more than Brady. Absolutely. I look forward

1538
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: to those numbers. Ready, Yeah, I look forward to him too.

1539
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 5: I need something to laugh up.

1540
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 1: Well, you don't think it's.

1541
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 5: I think it's an excellent crowd. I don't think it's

1542
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 5: Brady esque. Why not because all of these banners weren't

1543
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 5: there when Brady was there, and there was literally thousands

1544
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 5: of people in those.

1545
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: I mean, look at it.

1546
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 6: It's it's three levels of ramps with about three five deep.

1547
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 6: But look at all the people down there that haven't

1548
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 6: even sat down.

1549
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, they would all be in here when Brady was playing.

1550
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: What are you talking abouts?

1551
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 5: I really hate that they're both going at once.

1552
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: I don't see any open area.

1553
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 4: Also, they just bumbled the snap over there, and I

1554
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 4: since I had some negative things to say about the defense,

1555
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 4: I mean, for better or worse. I think Daniel Lqualley

1556
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 4: has been pretty good, and it seems like he's really

1557
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 4: without Lawrence guy and without Christian Barmore. It seems to

1558
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 4: me like he's first guy up at this point, as

1559
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 4: you know, kind of next to Godshaw.

1560
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 1: They play, you know, a number of different.

1561
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 4: Fronts, but a lot of times weren't that like kind

1562
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 4: of a you know what is it like a two

1563
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 4: four or five nickel package kind of thing with two

1564
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 4: big linemen.

1565
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the one with with god jahnso.

1566
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:50,679
Speaker 5: X front X front X front.

1567
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 8: There you go, and if he can stay consistent, people

1568
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 8: might be getting aboard the Jeremiah Farms train.

1569
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1570
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 5: I mean, I you know, I don't really see him

1571
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 5: being like you know, subber pass rusher. First pass attempt

1572
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 5: for the offense results in a sack, and first past

1573
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 5: attempt for Philly results in a nice little out to

1574
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 5: a J.

1575
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: Brown.

1576
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 5: It's on My City shows on my radar.

1577
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: Was that him that got the Yeah? And see I

1578
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: think those those big guys, that's a good test.

1579
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 5: Without the interior of the offensive line, the Eagles have

1580
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 5: a good I can't tell the personnel that is that

1581
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 5: Jordan Davis on the right I believe.

1582
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 1: I think it's jail and card humongous too. Their top

1583
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: guys are in there. This is a good little play here.

1584
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: Those boop are out and off off of play action. Yeah,

1585
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: wide open. We've got a blitz coming from the Patriots.

1586
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 5: What happened another catch?

1587
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: Uh? Yep?

1588
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts just stepped up with the pressure and fired

1589
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 4: it to a J. Brown on a crosser and it

1590
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:57,919
Speaker 4: looked like it would.

1591
01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: Have been a nightmare trying.

1592
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 5: To track him down because Alex Austin could not keep up.

1593
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 5: So I do think the secondary right now is not

1594
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 5: necessarily indicative of what you might see. You know, you've

1595
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 5: got no Marcus Jones, no Jonathan Jones, really not even

1596
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 5: any Sean Wade right, he's not been out there yet.

1597
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 4: No, he got Isaiah Bolden playing in the slot these days. Again,

1598
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 4: they got to get some of these guys back healthy.

1599
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 4: Patriots O line is struggling. I mean, they they can't

1600
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 4: get anything going. This is a pretty heavy running early

1601
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 4: down period. They've been stuffed on pretty much every single run.

1602
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 4: Where are tackles the normal darian?

1603
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, have a long play.

1604
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 4: Ridiculous, it's been Matthew Jon's signature would like to see

1605
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 4: him in uniform running guys down.

1606
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 5: Rather than running people down in sweat. Nice quick read

1607
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 5: there by Jacoby Brissett. The wholesale changes.

1608
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 1: All right, I'm the two. Let's see what May can do.

1609
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 1: But again he's now with the number two's against the

1610
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 1: Eagles number two, so it's not quite apples to apples

1611
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: for May.

1612
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 7: I just don't really care for the fact that we've

1613
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 7: never opened the door to Drake made potentially starting super

1614
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 7: rather than later.

1615
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more.

1616
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 5: It's okay that if he doesn't, but we haven't even

1617
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 5: looked at it, like you can have it in your

1618
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 5: mind right now that there's absolutely no possible way I'm

1619
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 5: playing him, and I'd be fine with that, But why

1620
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 5: can't you start? But just do pigets get another pre

1621
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 5: snap penalty, flat legal motion, oh and holding two penalties on.

1622
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 7: That point the first play that Drake May just ran

1623
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 7: right there, it's just like a jail break on the

1624
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 7: left side of the backup offensive line. I mean, it's

1625
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 7: probably a sack in the game. He ended up checking

1626
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 7: it down. It just at some point I would just

1627
01:13:58,479 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 7: like to see them give.

1628
01:13:59,479 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 1: Him a chance.

1629
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I totally agree. Of like give me the like

1630
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 5: the first ten plays, you know, with the ones and

1631
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 5: let it go. Now. The other night when he played

1632
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 5: in Fairness, it was one series, but it was with

1633
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 5: the ones. He played with the ones that you know

1634
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 5: that are available at this time. But I agree with Evan,

1635
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 5: I would like to have seen that at practice a

1636
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 5: little bit more often than we've gotten a chance to see. Yeah, yeah,

1637
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 5: I just it seems to me like they had a

1638
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 5: plan coming in ye and that plans was Poe Berset

1639
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 5: for the first you know, stretch of the season and

1640
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 5: then we'll see and no matter what Drake May did

1641
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 5: and barring him absolutely coming out here and setting the

1642
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 5: earth on fire was going to change their minds. And

1643
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 5: that's just where we're at.

1644
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 7: I just I don't really know what he was supposed

1645
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 7: to do, working behind a backup offensive line, throwing a

1646
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 7: Mitchell Wilcox and and you know Kishan Boudi that was

1647
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 7: going to light the world on fire to move the needle.

1648
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll say I thought the the Patriots defense, like,

1649
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 5: I think they struggled a little bit in the secondary,

1650
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 5: but I thought they got some decent pressure at times

1651
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,759
Speaker 5: on hurts. Did you guys watch any of those plays

1652
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 5: no coming up.

1653
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah they did. I mean a couple of times. Yeah,

1654
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 1: it's hard to tell. And he moves pretty well in

1655
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 1: the pocket.

1656
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 5: They've rotated and yeah, some of the second that the

1657
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 5: two's are in now. But I thought there were a

1658
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 5: couple of plays that they looked like they got some

1659
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 5: decent penetration up front.

1660
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the one of the blitzes, that one,

1661
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 4: to me looked like they beat it. But yeah, a

1662
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 4: couple of other times just hard to tell.

1663
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 1: It is hard to tell.

1664
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 5: Oh, that's some room in that one. Yeah, that looked

1665
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 5: like you did have some room. I don't know if

1666
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 5: I think it is that ninety seven Kristin Hill maybe

1667
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 5: would have made the tackle, Yeah, but I ended up

1668
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 5: on the ground. Room.

1669
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good run. I thought, quick past the

1670
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 1: baker r P.

1671
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 5: Yeahs, that's that's jailing Pope. Pope been doing a little

1672
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 5: bit more of that. So my my concern would be

1673
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:28,560
Speaker 5: that that's what they're going to have to do to

1674
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 5: get passes off. Is the way that we've seen today

1675
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 5: is get it out quick short.

1676
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 1: Quill hasn't that that the way the last few years.

1677
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it's they just don't have the time. Yeah. Yeah,

1678
01:16:50,520 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 1: Pops Douglas in the slot here, great Mayson quarterback and

1679
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 1: he hits Pop. Yeah, but not on the run.

1680
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 7: He had that matchup that I think if you hit

1681
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 7: him on the run the safety he would annihilate him.

1682
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 7: He had the linebacker in the slot on Pop Douglas,

1683
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 7: there was his own coverage and he read that one out.

1684
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 7: Well that was that was a good like I like

1685
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 7: place to go to the ball.

1686
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1687
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 5: I think he kind of protected him Freddy with the

1688
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 5: throw and his this this will be my first of

1689
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 5: the quarterback apologist comments that I'll make for Drake May

1690
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 5: but I think he sort of settled him down. Yeah,

1691
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 5: okay the boy did they hit over the top? Were

1692
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 5: set back in for the offense, by the way, Yeah,

1693
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 5: that one popped open too. Got lucky because Mike on

1694
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 5: one who got beat in past pro kJ Osborne a

1695
01:17:54,680 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 5: little slant, that's.

1696
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, ninety eight ninety inside man.

1697
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're giving them bits.

1698
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: What you talking about, god shaw a quality and.

1699
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 5: They can't they can't run them all.

1700
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:28,839
Speaker 1: They were in the backfield. Ye, let's swin move inside.

1701
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 7: Yes, I still remains skeptical that these outside zone runs

1702
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 7: are gonna work. I just I just don't feel like

1703
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 7: they have a team's speed on offense to get get

1704
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 7: the edge. It just doesn't seem like it. They get

1705
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 7: the corner often enough to make teams respect the fact

1706
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:47,560
Speaker 7: that they could bounce.

1707
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 1: It with the hold on the drawing a hole, they're.

1708
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 5: H I know what's a hold?

1709
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 1: But where was everybody?

1710
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1711
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 1: Who was that one?

1712
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 5: Defense? Off sides?

1713
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 8: Like?

1714
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: Where was where was that?

1715
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 5: On this side? There was a defense off side of

1716
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 5: the offense. Patriots offense on the left field got a

1717
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 5: uh neutral zone infraction. Someone in the middle I didn't see.

1718
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: Working it on my Chalen Hurts back in over on

1719
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: the right side here, So this.

1720
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 5: Is Austin and Gonzales now that corner, yes, sir, Yeah,

1721
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 5: that might have been a That might have been an

1722
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 5: eight or ten yard game. Got the edge pretty easy

1723
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 5: on that. To your point, Eon White out there like

1724
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 5: this looked like they.

1725
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 1: Ran at him.

1726
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 5: I just hate taking that, like harving out space on

1727
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 5: a take of something I don't want to happen. It's

1728
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 5: just you know that he can't.

1729
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 4: He isn't a player for this team and isn't an

1730
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 4: impact player for this team this year.

1731
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: So good extended team period here. Yeah, this is kind

1732
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 1: of what they did in Green Bay last year. It's

1733
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 1: heading over ten minutes at this point for this period.

1734
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 7: Offense defense on on separate fields, and then they'll probably

1735
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 7: come together at some point and be like a good job.

1736
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 5: But the Eagles offensive line, they are just really picked

1737
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,640
Speaker 5: up that. Yeah, I think July to vibe woodstuffs in

1738
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 5: the middle and I just came flying in like got

1739
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 5: killed haphazard. And I think Kurtz would have had a

1740
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 5: big game because that whole middle parted. I think Nix

1741
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 5: Serriani started going whistle. I know, well, it kind of

1742
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 5: dangerous the way to buy just minute too.

1743
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:50,879
Speaker 7: I feel like this is so far has gone exactly

1744
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 7: how you would expect with one team that has Super

1745
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 7: Bowl aspirations and another team that does not.

1746
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 1: I'm struggling with it right now.

1747
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 5: But as a ball star away year, Yeah, so can

1748
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 5: I just say, like, I'm not even talking about talent

1749
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 5: and anything else. I never remember a camp like this

1750
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 5: with the amount of penalties they've had. And I don't

1751
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 5: know if I'm being an apologist to Bill here, but

1752
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,600
Speaker 5: they have five six pre snap penalties every practice. I

1753
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 5: feel like they had those every game last year, especially

1754
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:25,759
Speaker 5: Trump Brown. Not this many and certainly not in practice.

1755
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 5: They were a highly penalized team. Yeah they were last year. Yeah,

1756
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 5: not not in the Beellowchick era, but not like they

1757
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 5: can't even get a playoff in practice without someone jumping

1758
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 5: off side. I think it's embarrassing, and I agree with

1759
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 5: Austin Hooper doesn't require any talents to stay on side.

1760
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 5: That was ten days ago, right, yeah, and was still

1761
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 5: seeing it every day. There's a good play there, by

1762
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:57,719
Speaker 5: Godsha stuffed one of those inside handoffs oute of the Shakya,

1763
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 5: their most consistent route on offense by far, or those

1764
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 5: little sat routes over the middle where the tight end

1765
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 5: or the slot receiver just breaks off leverage and just

1766
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 5: like kind of finds the void and just sits there.

1767
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 1: And they hit him.

1768
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 7: Yeah that eight yards, yep. But hey, if it's first

1769
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 7: and ten, now it's second and two, absolutely.

1770
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 1: I'll take it. But those are good games on first dole,

1771
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 1: I'll take it. Not trying to, but I think it's it.

1772
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 5: I'm worried about first down is going to feature run run,

1773
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 5: and then it's third and eighth.

1774
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like you all day for hurts.

1775
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 5: Not good coverage though, we had to check.

1776
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 1: It down business that played, Gonzo rotated back to safety

1777
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:54,799
Speaker 1: deep safety. Hurts is done for that segment.

1778
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 7: They were back to drink may on offense. This rand

1779
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 7: of RPO handoff on the first play seems like we're

1780
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 7: moving a little bit more this way and maybe till

1781
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 7: a little bit on second and third down stuff.

1782
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 5: Now it seems like by this way, I mean closer

1783
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 5: to the end zone. Yeah, yeah, D fifty two nothing

1784
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 5: doing in the running game. It's always funny that we

1785
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 5: see these teams and then you look at it and

1786
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, yeah, I like that guy coming out.

1787
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:35,879
Speaker 5: It'll become a coops these random names Jlyx Hunt. Apparently

1788
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 5: Christian Barmore is in attendance, obviously not playing, but he

1789
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 5: is physically here.

1790
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's a good sign. Do you think at

1791
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: some point there'll be some kind of ye general update

1792
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: on him.

1793
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, if he's not going to be available for the season, yeah,

1794
01:23:56,479 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 5: they're probably gonna tell us. I mean probably at the

1795
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 5: end of the camp. He's gonna have to go on

1796
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 5: a list of some sort anyway, right, is this special

1797
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 5: teams period now looks like.

1798
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 1: Good as overwhelmed. We've got a ball on the tee.

1799
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,679
Speaker 1: So I would imagine we're doing kickoffs and the Eagles

1800
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:29,799
Speaker 1: and what are the Patriots doing? You can't tell. Yeah, okay,

1801
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 1: Patriots are going to do return on the Eagles kicking.

1802
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,600
Speaker 5: It's like, so some of this stuff is hard to

1803
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 5: do at the same time because there's so many there's

1804
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 5: so many of the same players involved.

1805
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:45,600
Speaker 1: You know, you're in.

1806
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 5: So now we can really find out what happened because

1807
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 5: the famous Greg Bodard walking right behind us. So in

1808
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 5: case anybody wanted to know what happened in practice, Greg

1809
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 5: is here to tell us what we don't know.

1810
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 1: Oh jokes, everybody thought of those one on ones, I

1811
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 1: do the.

1812
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 5: Same thing to you, that's true. Yeah, So I was

1813
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,680
Speaker 5: just saying, like, when you're doing special teams, it's hard

1814
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 5: to do a lot of different things at the same

1815
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 5: time because so many of the same players are involved

1816
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 5: in the core four special teams.

1817
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, given the Yeah, there, guys, a little brather and

1818
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:24,560
Speaker 7: then I'm sure we'll be right back into team after that.

1819
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1820
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 7: It offensively, some short completions kind of found a little

1821
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 7: bit of a rhythm there, it seemed like in the

1822
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 7: passing game, but the running game was non existent.

1823
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 11: Let's be honest, there's one team here. Like you said

1824
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 11: that his head and shoulders above the other.

1825
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 5: Flags all over the place. On this return for the Patriots,

1826
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,560
Speaker 5: Pop actually bounced it outside. Looked like we had a

1827
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:51,680
Speaker 5: little bit of room on the.

1828
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 11: The Eagles look like the more you know, the team

1829
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 11: that's closer to the Patriots by far, no doubt.

1830
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just I'm going to just do my best

1831
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 1: not to overreact.

1832
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 5: To any of Yeah, I'm not. I don't overreact to

1833
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 5: get joy practices.

1834
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 1: Hurts a quarterback who's a you know, a pro bowler,

1835
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 1: you would expect that.

1836
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, I honestly think the only thing that's going to

1837
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 8: hold this team back, the Eagles back, is is themselves.

1838
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on in their locker room,

1839
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 5: but that's the only Well, they have internal issues. They

1840
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 5: do not have talent issues. They have internal issues. They

1841
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 5: have coaching issues. Well that's internal.

1842
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, they're they're coaching staff, but I'm not sure

1843
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 7: their offensive coaching staff yet. That's going to be a

1844
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:43,600
Speaker 7: big thing with them, And that.

1845
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 5: Was losing Shane Stike in. Yeah, they haven't really looked

1846
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 5: the same since. No.

1847
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 7: He seemed to be the guy that had all the

1848
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 7: all like the secondary plays, Like their base offense is

1849
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 7: the same as it was with Stiking, but he had

1850
01:26:57,960 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 7: all of like the bells and whistles that came off

1851
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 7: of all the base concepts that they were running and things.

1852
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 7: And last year their offense was overly simple, Like, especially

1853
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 7: for a team with that much talent, it doesn't need

1854
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 7: to be that rudimentary, and it was. They were running

1855
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:27,719
Speaker 7: the same like ten plays every single game. Jeremy Springer

1856
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 7: trying to.

1857
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 5: Get out of the drill. Seen a little bit more

1858
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 5: Isaiah Bolden back there and returns.

1859
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 1: In recent somebody up loaded up.

1860
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 4: Definitely between like injuries to kickoff returners and you know,

1861
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 4: injuries and cornerback have increased his opportunities here. I mean,

1862
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 4: it's still strange. We saw him come out and play

1863
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 4: in the slot in the spring and they still said

1864
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,560
Speaker 4: we still view him more as an outside guy with

1865
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 4: his size. It makes sense, but it just seems like

1866
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 4: without Marcus Jones, without Sean Wade, he's kind of that

1867
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 4: guy right now, who's who's you know, I don't know.

1868
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 1: If you really call him a slot corner. He's just

1869
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:06,760
Speaker 1: the third corner right now.

1870
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 5: But that is one thing I do like about their

1871
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:13,719
Speaker 5: their corners. Their backup corners quote unquote backup do seem

1872
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 5: like they have a lot of versatility. I'll start, so,

1873
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 5: I think that ball didn't land in the landing zone, right,

1874
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 5: I think that might have been why they blue the

1875
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 5: whistle doesn't have to go in the land.

1876
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 7: Seemed like the Eagles, Yes, but I thought the Eagles

1877
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 7: moved before the ball hit the ground. Okay, But either way,

1878
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:37,600
Speaker 7: it was a procedural penalty for sure, because I just

1879
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:39,679
Speaker 7: thought there were guys that were way in the back

1880
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 7: that were throwing flags, and I would think the guys

1881
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 7: up on the line would be throwing off side.

1882
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:48,799
Speaker 1: There's a little programming note after the practice, Tamara Brown

1883
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:52,680
Speaker 1: will be on the field interviewing Pop Douglas one on one.

1884
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 7: Well, Pop Pop Like anybody else, Tamera can cover Pop

1885
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 7: one on one another flags, we.

1886
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 1: Got holding on the return team.

1887
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 5: Oh boy, And a related no, Brandon School are screaming

1888
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 5: at the rem No, I'm just kidding. That was last year.

1889
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 1: Oh boy, guys, oh boy.

1890
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's not a whole lot to report on

1891
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 5: when they're just doing no kickoff every uh sort of

1892
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 5: minute and a half.

1893
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:40,320
Speaker 1: Then both teams quarterbacks are with each other, kind of just.

1894
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 5: The Patriots offensive line met behind the end zone for

1895
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 5: a while while the special teams are going out. Now

1896
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 5: they're joining the rest of the team.

1897
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 1: I think we're getting ready for a team eleven and eleven.

1898
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, I would assume that we're getting to the

1899
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 7: party where they're going to just do that where both

1900
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 7: teams are on their respective side, like almost like a game. Yeah,

1901
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:05,559
Speaker 7: and uh, and you just go eleven on eleven back

1902
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 7: and forth for forty five minutes. Now, that's the best part.

1903
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 5: It's kind of nice without the music here for a moment, actually,

1904
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 5: Like it's a it's a good constant. I figured if

1905
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 5: I said that that people would say, oh, of course

1906
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 5: the old guy doesn't like the music.

1907
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 1: Boom.

1908
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 5: Well, sometimes it's just so freaking loud. I mean, honestly,

1909
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 5: like it's even louder down there on the field. I

1910
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 5: feel like some of those guys have got to go

1911
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 5: use the freaking porter pot. He's gonna get their ear

1912
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:32,560
Speaker 5: drums blasted out. It's right next to the speaker. Poor guys.

1913
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 1: Got to be able to hear the call. You don't

1914
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 1: got ear drums, all right, it's probably a good time

1915
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:40,719
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Speaker 1: All right, we are back at Patriots practice high above

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Speaker 1: the practice fields at the Lette Stadium. It's Red Curs,

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Speaker 1: Paul Parolla, Micuso and Ozar Tamarra Brown. And right now

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Speaker 1: the two teams are split up offense defense on opposite

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Speaker 1: sides of the field. On our left, we have the

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Speaker 1: Patriots offense against the Eagles defense, and to the right

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Speaker 1: the other way around. We're getting ready forteen eleven and

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Speaker 1: eleven where they actually mimic a game. So that'll be

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Speaker 1: coming up and probably about fifteen minutes or so. So

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Speaker 1: it was a play.

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Speaker 5: The Eagles had a couple of plays ago a little

2000
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 5: wheel route to Saquon Barkley.

2001
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Speaker 1: I don't really love.

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01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 5: A scheme that has Judon trying to run thirty yards

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Speaker 5: downfield with one of the most explosive pass catching backs

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Speaker 5: in the game.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, it's not necessarily drawn up that way.

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Speaker 7: So they replacement blitz, right, so you send the inside

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Speaker 7: back or Judon drops out into the coverage. Should play

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Speaker 7: by Austin Hooper there, Oh nope, he dropped it, dropped

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01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 7: it and it was picked off.

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Speaker 5: I thought he was gonna have that one.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I thought he went to the ground with it, but

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Speaker 1: he guess he didn't. In the end zone.

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Speaker 7: Passed from Yeah, I mean obviously like they're hoping that

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Speaker 7: that Saquon is just gonna like run into the flat

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Speaker 7: or pick up the blitz or something like that and

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Speaker 7: not put Judon in on him in a wheel route

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Speaker 7: forty yard and down the field. But that pressure actually

2019
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Speaker 7: gets them a lot of a lot of disruptions on

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Speaker 7: the quarterback over the course.

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Speaker 5: Of the season.

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Speaker 7: So it's one of those things that it was just

2023
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 7: kind of a bad play on that one. But I

2024
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Speaker 7: actually like the scheme.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, overall, it's part of what makes you know, chewed

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Speaker 4: On valuable is that he's a pass rusher they have

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Speaker 4: to account for, so you know, when they're watching him

2028
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 4: and he pulls out it, you know you're trying to

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Speaker 4: take advantage of their protections.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, that one just.

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Speaker 1: Got a little bit fight.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Pepper's had a little thing going like a couple.

2033
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Speaker 1: Of plays for oceans perhaps feels like this.

2034
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Speaker 7: The Patriots offense working in like the mid to high

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Speaker 7: red zone right now, right around the fourteen to fifteen

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Speaker 7: yard line. They they ran the ball a little bit

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Speaker 7: better and this stretch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of.

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Speaker 5: These plays looked like they were four five yard games. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I wonder it's supposed to getting stuffed in the back.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I wonder if the offensive line got chewed out a

2043
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 7: little bit when they went over to break there in

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Speaker 7: the special teams period.

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Speaker 5: They had a little toss to Antonio Gibbs in a

2046
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 5: few plays ago. I think he might have had had

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Speaker 5: a crease o Pin poll for you, Paul, I did

2048
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Speaker 5: not chart up on some wind. I'll take your word

2049
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Speaker 5: for it.

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Speaker 1: Drake made in the end zone incomplete. Yeah, really had

2051
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Speaker 1: no chance.

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Speaker 5: In that one, oh pin poll.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was interesting that the Patriots have run

2055
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:29,639
Speaker 5: their plays in the red zone as as as I've said,

2056
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Speaker 5: mostly the high red zone, whereas the Eagles were starting

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Speaker 5: from the twenty one, like just outside the red zone

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Speaker 5: like when they started this period.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, blown up screen, Yeah, that was a Rake

2060
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:47,040
Speaker 1: May had somebody in his face and kind of just

2061
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:48,599
Speaker 1: threw it away. Yeah, there's a screen.

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Speaker 7: They're trying to set up a screen to the running back,

2063
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 7: and the pressure got in there too quickly.

2064
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 5: Gibson was there, but so was a number of other people.

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Speaker 5: I think Bryce the main guy. There's another good run

2066
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 5: stuff for Dietrich wives. Alright, this is against there. See

2067
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 5: that was more like when we saw earlier seventy four

2068
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 5: on the ground. Probably one past attempt so far for

2069
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:31,760
Speaker 5: Drake Man this this sequence, uh two, one of them

2070
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:32,960
Speaker 5: was blown up screen.

2071
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, true, Michael Jordan's who's on the ground. Even

2072
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:41,200
Speaker 1: that was too easy a little early with some swatting

2073
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 1: at Eagles player.

2074
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Speaker 7: And the Eagles there are one of those nerd offenses

2075
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 7: Paul that just said, you know what, f the red zone,

2076
01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:54,080
Speaker 7: F they're down, We're just gonna score from the twenty

2077
01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 7: one instead of having to worry about Yeah, you can

2078
01:38:56,439 --> 01:38:58,800
Speaker 7: do that, you're allowed to. Yeah, yeah, I love that

2079
01:38:58,920 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 7: about them.

2080
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:07,760
Speaker 8: Oh he definitely jumped off sides, didn't They got it?

2081
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 1: Oh? But also that was definitely it was it was

2082
01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 1: procedure against the Patriots. Did you have a false start,

2083
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:26,799
Speaker 1: I mean fall start, a break away on May.

2084
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 5: And a play I think that Baker needed to try

2085
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 5: to get his feet in bounce on that. He didn't

2086
01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 5: get either one, and I think that was kind of

2087
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 5: system total system breakdown step. Yep, we're very positive.

2088
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to.

2089
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2090
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, everything is hard. There's some good physicality in some

2091
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 5: of these run places. Now they're down around the five

2092
01:39:57,479 --> 01:40:00,120
Speaker 5: yard lines near into the goal line.

2093
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:10,679
Speaker 7: All right, so they bring they have these r pos

2094
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 7: deuce right, and they're running. They're running pure run pass

2095
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 7: option r pos. And I just wonder when we're going

2096
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 7: to graduate to the run run pass option version where Drake,

2097
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 7: where Drake may has the ability. It's like a zone

2098
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:26,760
Speaker 7: read and an r PO built into one play. That's

2099
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 7: all you'll see with the Eagles with Hurts, that's what

2100
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:31,760
Speaker 7: they'll do. I'm just waiting for Drake made it. Just

2101
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:33,720
Speaker 7: keep one of these off the edge and just walk in.

2102
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Speaker 1: You're set with time. Yeah, no way. This is Austin

2103
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 1: Hoopah holding on Eagles on the other side of the field.

2104
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 1: Just realize that's canny. Pick it out there, huh.

2105
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:03,639
Speaker 5: He to the two gloves acquired to push Jalen Hurt.

2106
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 5: He actually played a lot in the preseason opener. Oh yeah, Yeah,

2107
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:12,479
Speaker 5: it's amazing how quickly things change.

2108
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:14,639
Speaker 8: I feel like they need a good backup though, especially

2109
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 8: with Jalen Hurts and his availability playing hurt most of

2110
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 8: last year.

2111
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Speaker 5: It do hurts.

2112
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:25,439
Speaker 1: So Deon Branch and Corey Dillon here today to Heroes

2113
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 1: of Super Bowl thirty nine. Corey Dillon was coy.

2114
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 5: D was awesome. Yeah, got a chance to do a

2115
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:33,880
Speaker 5: podcast with him yesterday and Matt Nith and I the

2116
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:38,200
Speaker 5: Pats from the Past, and well, probably not for a

2117
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 5: while because we got a lot of other stuff going

2118
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 5: on that we know that people are more interested in

2119
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 5: right now. But he was great, you know, just talked

2120
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 5: so glowingly about that two thousand and four season that

2121
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 5: I and he agreed many others believe it was the

2122
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:57,800
Speaker 5: best nice job by Brissette finding an open Austin Hooper

2123
01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:01,640
Speaker 5: for a touchdown. I want I'm coming back off a

2124
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:03,400
Speaker 5: second look I can read.

2125
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, they've been running that play a lot where they'll

2126
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 7: like flood the into the sideline on one side of

2127
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 7: the field and they'll run like a backside cross or

2128
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 7: digging digg route and if at first, you know, read

2129
01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 7: isn't open over here, that picture is muddy. He just

2130
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:17,519
Speaker 7: comes in back into the middle of the field, and

2131
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:20,960
Speaker 7: Presetts done a nice job work in that progression yesterday too.

2132
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 7: I thought he made some good throws there that Hurts

2133
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 7: back out for ye.

2134
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 1: Now that might have been I think it's also had

2135
01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:34,720
Speaker 1: a good run stop I'm lay before that so.

2136
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:40,040
Speaker 5: Good. Oh, I laid his way in on that one.

2137
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:48,759
Speaker 5: I'm giving it to him. Jouldn't Davis is enormous.

2138
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:50,599
Speaker 4: He is, but I almost feel like he's trimmed down

2139
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 4: a little bit, Like I mean, he just looks like

2140
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:53,000
Speaker 4: he's a little better shape to me.

2141
01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if I'm too far away,

2142
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:57,800
Speaker 1: but those two guys in the Holy.

2143
01:42:57,680 --> 01:43:08,360
Speaker 5: Jumper Dogs literally and figured, Yeah, I'm jealous. Not gonna

2144
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:11,960
Speaker 5: lie Jardin Davis was all of all of us, or

2145
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 5: would have been on on that one. I think he

2146
01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 5: went to throw the ball at a popped out of

2147
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:26,439
Speaker 5: his hands. I think Hurts lost the ball. I think

2148
01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 5: that would have been a fumble on almost.

2149
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:29,559
Speaker 1: Felt like he saw you. He tried to pull it down.

2150
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:31,439
Speaker 1: He just couldn't go forward.

2151
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:33,800
Speaker 5: But yeah, it might have been an incomplete pass when

2152
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:35,639
Speaker 5: you watch the replay, But I think he was trying

2153
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 5: to hold the ball yeah, yeah, and I think he

2154
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:40,799
Speaker 5: just didn't like the coverage.

2155
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:44,600
Speaker 7: Two things on the offense just now they ran to

2156
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:47,760
Speaker 7: roll their goal line rollout play, which I hate by

2157
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:50,680
Speaker 7: the way, and then Jacob were set us through late

2158
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:52,559
Speaker 7: back into the middle of the field and is almost

2159
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:57,839
Speaker 7: intercepted that that's not a decision for the steady capable,

2160
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 7: veteran bridge quarterback that they necessary need. But that roleout

2161
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Speaker 7: play can go in the can.

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Speaker 1: That one.

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01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 7: I don't understand what they're trying to accomplish with that.

2164
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:10,320
Speaker 7: That sprint out has been one of the few successful

2165
01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 7: plays though, No, but this one's different. Like they had

2166
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 7: to sprint out yesterday where they ran like a pick

2167
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 7: play for Jalen Polk. This is like a pure rollout

2168
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:20,720
Speaker 7: where they just have everybody coming, you know, two or

2169
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:23,200
Speaker 7: three routes coming into the sideline and they cut the

2170
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 7: field in half. I just I don't care for when

2171
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:28,559
Speaker 7: you're in the red zone, your space is already really condensed,

2172
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:30,679
Speaker 7: and now you're going to condense it even more. Where

2173
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:33,200
Speaker 7: like he has this little box in the end zone

2174
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:35,439
Speaker 7: that he basically has to get the ball the ball

2175
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:37,800
Speaker 7: to I'd much rather give him the full field and

2176
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:38,880
Speaker 7: let him read it out.

2177
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 1: You say, Patriot's defense stringing together a better reps.

2178
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:47,599
Speaker 5: As they got close to the goal line. I thought

2179
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 5: the Patriots defense started to control it. On the other side. Yeah, now,

2180
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:56,880
Speaker 5: they've been a lot of run plays, but I think

2181
01:44:56,920 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 5: the one defense has been stout.

2182
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:00,759
Speaker 1: In the middle.

2183
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 6: In the middle, they've had a little room off the edges.

2184
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:07,599
Speaker 6: But what's up next, Devin, I don't know. We're at

2185
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 6: twelve o'clock.

2186
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:10,680
Speaker 7: I would I'd like to hope that we're gonna get

2187
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 7: some some full field like one field of team. Maybe

2188
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:18,479
Speaker 7: after this another special teams period, maybe coming up here

2189
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:22,600
Speaker 7: to get give the big guys a blow. Looks like it.

2190
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 7: It seems to be the sequencing give the the offensive

2191
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:30,720
Speaker 7: and defensive lines a breather in beta.

2192
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna do special teams now until about

2193
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:35,679
Speaker 1: twelve fifteen, and then we go into team.

2194
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 5: So my assumption is this will be the Patriots kicking

2195
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:54,240
Speaker 5: off now, right, your assumption is correct. Yeah, there you go. Yeah,

2196
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 5: we'll see if we get anything funky with kickoffs. We

2197
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 5: haven't really seen anything all summer out of the ordinary

2198
01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:07,960
Speaker 5: in that regard. Wow special team. So everybody just decided

2199
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:11,720
Speaker 5: to take the rest of the segment off. So I'll

2200
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 5: just tell you there's a lot of standing around on

2201
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 5: the field. Yeah, I'll riff here. Yeah, I guess some

2202
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:19,599
Speaker 5: special teams pick off and then well.

2203
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 1: While, uh, while we're waiting for that, why don't we

2204
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 1: get some emails?

2205
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:23,759
Speaker 5: Okay?

2206
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:27,560
Speaker 1: Can you explain to me why Drake May is not

2207
01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:30,760
Speaker 1: getting any practice with ones? This makes no sense to

2208
01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 1: me on any sort of level. If you're sitting him,

2209
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:36,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't you want him to build chemistry as the future starter?

2210
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 1: And if you're going to play them at all in

2211
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 1: the preseason, it should be with the ones. But it

2212
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:42,519
Speaker 1: makes no sense to put them out there with the

2213
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:45,599
Speaker 1: ones if he hasn't practiced with them. I like Mayo

2214
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 1: as a coach. I like to pick a Drake May

2215
01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:49,080
Speaker 1: and the moves we made with the roster, but the

2216
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:52,960
Speaker 1: handling of his development by the OC is my greatest concern.

2217
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:56,080
Speaker 1: That's Ford and Savannah. Yeah, I mean I understand.

2218
01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:58,120
Speaker 5: We just talked about it a little bit, and I

2219
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:00,320
Speaker 5: have some reservations too, because I don't think it's been

2220
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 5: enough he has played with the ones, because they don't

2221
01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:10,080
Speaker 5: really have set once. Like I know it might sound

2222
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:12,519
Speaker 5: two fans like when we say in Vederian Lowe's at

2223
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:15,360
Speaker 5: left tackle and people think, well that means the backups

2224
01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 5: in but he's been the starting left tackle for over

2225
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:21,880
Speaker 5: a week now. That's you know, when he when Drake

2226
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:23,639
Speaker 5: May played in the game, it was with the same

2227
01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:27,840
Speaker 5: offensive line that Weresett played with. That's the ones. So

2228
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:31,400
Speaker 5: I get I don't think he's played enough, period. I

2229
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:35,240
Speaker 5: don't think he's got enough snaps in general, and certainly

2230
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:36,960
Speaker 5: I would say he didn't get enough in the game.

2231
01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:40,840
Speaker 5: But I do think that he's been out there occasionally

2232
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 5: with ones. You know, I don't really think they have

2233
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:44,280
Speaker 5: a group of ones.

2234
01:47:44,360 --> 01:47:47,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're saying with wide receivers except for to Mario Douglas. Yeah,

2235
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:50,840
Speaker 7: I think people are obviously just saying the offensive line

2236
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:53,280
Speaker 7: and be nice to see him especially out there.

2237
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:55,720
Speaker 1: And then the tackles. It's an issue, so that the

2238
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:56,439
Speaker 1: tackles are.

2239
01:47:57,080 --> 01:47:58,720
Speaker 5: What I would like to see, is them come out

2240
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:02,200
Speaker 5: one day in it lead off with Drake May, right,

2241
01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:04,960
Speaker 5: Like it's not necessarily the people that May is playing with.

2242
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:09,120
Speaker 5: Just sort of like even Thursday night, name him the

2243
01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:11,280
Speaker 5: start or let him prepare for the game, like you're

2244
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 5: at the starting quarterback tonight. This is what you're gonna

2245
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:16,840
Speaker 5: get and and go from there. That that's more of

2246
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:17,519
Speaker 5: a mindset.

2247
01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:20,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's a tough one because we're not in

2248
01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 7: that we're not truly and we're in the building, but

2249
01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 7: we're not truly in the building, right, and so it's

2250
01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:29,160
Speaker 7: it's tough to say exactly what's going on.

2251
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:29,439
Speaker 1: You know.

2252
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:32,439
Speaker 7: I I love your shows, Paul, and I listened as

2253
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:34,879
Speaker 7: much as you do. But all they do is speculate

2254
01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:37,120
Speaker 7: based off of what their gut is telling them is

2255
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:39,720
Speaker 7: actually going on. That's true, and nobody actually knows what's

2256
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:42,479
Speaker 7: what's going on inside the building. So is Alex van

2257
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 7: Pelt not? Is he not there yet? Like is he

2258
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:47,240
Speaker 7: not ready to take on more, you know, of a

2259
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:50,200
Speaker 7: workload or you know, start to push for start starting

2260
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:52,840
Speaker 7: reps and things like that, or is this just been

2261
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:55,120
Speaker 7: the plan? Like my my feeling is is that this

2262
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 7: has been the plan from day one.

2263
01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:59,519
Speaker 5: That's and and that's what I thought heading in, and

2264
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:01,599
Speaker 5: that's why I didn't think there was ever any chance.

2265
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:03,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like this has been the plan from

2266
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:08,320
Speaker 7: day one. They were never actually seriously considering him starting

2267
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:11,320
Speaker 7: week one against the Bengals, So they are getting Jacob

2268
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:14,160
Speaker 7: Brissett ready to start the season as the starting quarterback,

2269
01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:16,840
Speaker 7: while making sure that Drake May at least gets a

2270
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:20,680
Speaker 7: high volume of reps relatively in practice. And that's why

2271
01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:23,839
Speaker 7: we don't see Zappi and Milton a whole lot, especially

2272
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:27,000
Speaker 7: lately in these practices. They've barely repped in practice. So

2273
01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:30,080
Speaker 7: that's where I feel like it is. I don't think

2274
01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 7: it's anything that Drake May's, you know, far behind or

2275
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:36,400
Speaker 7: further behind them they thought he would be, or anything

2276
01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 7: like that. I just think this was the plan and

2277
01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:39,040
Speaker 7: they're sticking to it.

2278
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 1: So real quick.

2279
01:49:40,520 --> 01:49:44,000
Speaker 5: I did kind of see a little wrinkle. Joey Sly's

2280
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 5: last kickoff was definitely angled toward the sideline, and the

2281
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:52,120
Speaker 5: returner for the Eagles looks like it was Lou Nichols

2282
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 5: caught it running toward the sideline and he ended up

2283
01:49:58,040 --> 01:50:00,880
Speaker 5: stepping out of bounds if we ruled him out of

2284
01:50:00,920 --> 01:50:04,599
Speaker 5: bounds inside the one yard line. The Eagles coaches were

2285
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:06,439
Speaker 5: adamant that he hit the pie line, which would have

2286
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 5: made it a touchback. But be that as it mad,

2287
01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 5: I did think that was a little bit of a

2288
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:13,080
Speaker 5: wrinkle with the kickoff, with they trying to sort of

2289
01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:15,760
Speaker 5: make a guy make a decision, because most of the

2290
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 5: kicks have been just traditional high and landing somewhere inside

2291
01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:23,040
Speaker 5: the five yard line. I haven't seen anything a fumble

2292
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:25,040
Speaker 5: caused by a blocker. Oh and it's gonna be a

2293
01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:28,479
Speaker 5: touchdown for the Patriots, so Michael Hasty in the end zone.

2294
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 5: I haven't seen anything resembling a kickoff return that looked

2295
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 5: positive in any way, shape or form. Practice game, other

2296
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:39,800
Speaker 5: games like this new style, I don't think is going

2297
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:42,840
Speaker 5: to be they what they were hoping for.

2298
01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:45,800
Speaker 1: Could it be that teams aren't showing their you know,

2299
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:47,680
Speaker 1: their true blocking schemes yet.

2300
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:52,479
Speaker 5: I mean, I can't rule anything out because I don't

2301
01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:56,479
Speaker 5: know what what hasn't happened. Yeah, but I just see

2302
01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:59,040
Speaker 5: a lot of guys in a small condensed area and

2303
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:02,160
Speaker 5: unless someone like falls down, I don't see a lot

2304
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:03,160
Speaker 5: of room to run, right.

2305
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:07,040
Speaker 1: I think they did the average.

2306
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:10,960
Speaker 11: I think the average return was to the thirty last

2307
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:12,679
Speaker 11: week in all the preseason games.

2308
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:18,080
Speaker 5: Was it even that far, Yeah, it was certainly wasn't

2309
01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:19,080
Speaker 5: that in the Patriots game.

2310
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:20,800
Speaker 1: No, it was average was a thirty.

2311
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:25,080
Speaker 7: No, the Patriots actually was was pretty low compared to

2312
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:26,839
Speaker 7: the rest of the league, and in terms of average

2313
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 7: starting field position in the game. But granted, you know

2314
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:33,519
Speaker 7: there's a lot of punts and stuff like that in

2315
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:33,880
Speaker 7: that game.

2316
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:35,760
Speaker 5: To Oh, I was just talking about the kickoffs. Yeah,

2317
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:37,639
Speaker 5: now we'dge on kickoffs, not on the average.

2318
01:51:37,640 --> 01:51:41,479
Speaker 1: I mean, how many kicks a fight, And this is

2319
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:45,760
Speaker 1: on the kickoff Eagles. I think this started with that

2320
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 1: offensive line. I think the Patriots hit a little too

2321
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:53,519
Speaker 1: hard on that fumble play, and I think this is

2322
01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 1: a carryover from that.

2323
01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:58,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was trying to see who the someone blew

2324
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:01,200
Speaker 5: up a blocker and them into the returner on the

2325
01:52:01,240 --> 01:52:05,320
Speaker 5: fumble play, and I'm not sure if it might have

2326
01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:11,120
Speaker 5: been ninety three and it might have been Schooler because

2327
01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:13,439
Speaker 5: those guys were in the area. But I wasn't sure

2328
01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:15,280
Speaker 5: who it was. But you might be right for it.

2329
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:18,559
Speaker 5: That might have been why. Yeah, the Eagles took exceptions.

2330
01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:19,519
Speaker 1: This is like two kicks.

2331
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 5: Actually pretty someone just went down. I don't know if

2332
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:26,880
Speaker 5: that was real or what.

2333
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,080
Speaker 1: That that was weird.

2334
01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:32,599
Speaker 5: I think you might have just lost his balance. Michael

2335
01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 5: Michael Jordan.

2336
01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 1: I was watching, and.

2337
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:38,560
Speaker 7: No, it's funny because some it's like half of the

2338
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 7: team was like joking around and then there was like

2339
01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 7: just a small group of guys in the middle that

2340
01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:46,519
Speaker 7: were actually kind of in the in a little bit

2341
01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 7: of a of a jout.

2342
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:49,519
Speaker 1: But then like some of the guys were just like

2343
01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:53,080
Speaker 1: messing around. Doglas Pop Douglas was hugging something.

2344
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:55,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you're I think you're right about Leverett.

2345
01:52:57,840 --> 01:52:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2346
01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:00,320
Speaker 5: I don't think anybody knocked him over. I think he

2347
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:01,960
Speaker 5: sort of Yeah.

2348
01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:05,400
Speaker 7: No, was somebody like jokingly through through a swing at him,

2349
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 7: I think, and he like went down like jokingly to

2350
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:10,960
Speaker 7: be clear. And I also saw Jordan Mylatta from the

2351
01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 7: other field jokingly running over and tell me that is

2352
01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:17,960
Speaker 7: not a guy you want to meet in a dark alley. Okay,

2353
01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:22,479
Speaker 7: a converted rugby player who is an absolute monster.

2354
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:25,400
Speaker 1: I see the owner doing an interview with ninety eight

2355
01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:26,840
Speaker 1: point five on the field.

2356
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 4: All right, back to team Perio is here? Uh all right,

2357
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:37,000
Speaker 4: ev they're on the left field. I'm on the right field.

2358
01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:40,800
Speaker 5: That Nick Leverett at center for this one for the Patriots.

2359
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:43,720
Speaker 1: They've kind of protected David Andrews a little bit.

2360
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:47,519
Speaker 5: Here and there too, so I gotta find a backup center.

2361
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:48,439
Speaker 8: Right.

2362
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:50,800
Speaker 5: That's a nice That was a decent hole for a

2363
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 5: reminder to run through yeah. I don't know if the

2364
01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:55,120
Speaker 5: edge guy and the game might have grabbed a hold

2365
01:53:55,160 --> 01:53:57,880
Speaker 5: of him, but if he if he was able to

2366
01:53:57,960 --> 01:53:59,040
Speaker 5: run through that tackle, then.

2367
01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:00,439
Speaker 1: It was a yeah.

2368
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:04,880
Speaker 5: They got to find a backup center. Like that's I

2369
01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:09,080
Speaker 5: think that's something that's you know, uh on the priority

2370
01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 5: list of this camp to have someone that they feel

2371
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:12,040
Speaker 5: comfortable with.

2372
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:12,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2373
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:15,680
Speaker 7: I don't know if he's necessarily a backup center for

2374
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:19,080
Speaker 7: the long haul, but nick Levert's been okay. I would

2375
01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:24,479
Speaker 7: say nick LeVert qualifies as a viable backup center slash guard,

2376
01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:26,599
Speaker 7: a guy that I really can play all three spots

2377
01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:27,400
Speaker 7: on the interior.

2378
01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:29,880
Speaker 1: Your guy had a good run. I did say.

2379
01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:31,680
Speaker 4: I saw that a nice play by Peppers and in

2380
01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:35,680
Speaker 4: the backfield Peppers Willcox caught it.

2381
01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:39,080
Speaker 5: I feel like Wilcox gets a ton of reps.

2382
01:54:39,640 --> 01:54:41,400
Speaker 7: Nice throw there, but you know he was said to

2383
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:44,600
Speaker 7: like stop him before he got out to the to

2384
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:45,600
Speaker 7: the boundary corner.

2385
01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:46,920
Speaker 1: He kind of is like a zone.

2386
01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 7: He kind of like sat him down in the zone

2387
01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:51,840
Speaker 7: on the out instead of throwing it into the defender.

2388
01:54:55,880 --> 01:54:58,680
Speaker 5: Zone again, beautiful flat.

2389
01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:02,800
Speaker 1: It's yeah, real right in the bucket that Austin Yeah

2390
01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:06,400
Speaker 1: again right over him. Yeah, yeah, that was the zone.

2391
01:55:06,440 --> 01:55:08,520
Speaker 7: Austin actually made a pretty good play on it to

2392
01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:11,920
Speaker 7: get depth, but it just wasn't enough that the honey hole.

2393
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:13,640
Speaker 7: That would be the honey hole.

2394
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:19,080
Speaker 1: Dude, the you got him got them.

2395
01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:24,280
Speaker 5: Nice catch bass, Yeah, nice nice play there though.

2396
01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:26,880
Speaker 7: They ran a wheel route with Austin Hooper and and

2397
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:28,920
Speaker 7: he got opened down the field for a nice completion.

2398
01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 5: I will say I like the play out of both

2399
01:55:34,240 --> 01:55:37,000
Speaker 5: Willcocks and Hooper today in Hunter Henry's absence. I feel

2400
01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:39,720
Speaker 5: like they're taking advantage of the opportunities. It's your place.

2401
01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 1: Job se al right.

2402
01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:45,360
Speaker 5: That didn't look good.

2403
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:50,040
Speaker 7: He's all right, Yeah, it looks like he got tangled

2404
01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:53,480
Speaker 7: up there. He's coming out though. Maybe no, No, he's

2405
01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:53,920
Speaker 7: all right.

2406
01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:54,400
Speaker 1: He's okay.

2407
01:55:57,040 --> 01:55:58,880
Speaker 5: Well, I know another okay.

2408
01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:00,560
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just tough of these run plays to

2409
01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:02,880
Speaker 4: know exactly where there's a room where there isn't. But

2410
01:56:03,560 --> 01:56:06,040
Speaker 4: I just think after a rough maybe first period or so,

2411
01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:09,080
Speaker 4: it's not better defenses, at least my present, the defenses

2412
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:10,680
Speaker 4: tightened up a little bit.

2413
01:56:11,080 --> 01:56:13,320
Speaker 5: But I would say the run defense is good run defense.

2414
01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:14,360
Speaker 5: The past defense is not.

2415
01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:16,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say the run game over here too

2416
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:19,400
Speaker 7: has been up for the Patriots offense has been better.

2417
01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:22,680
Speaker 7: I mean, they haven't had any huge runs, but they're

2418
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:23,920
Speaker 7: not getting blown up in the back.

2419
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:27,360
Speaker 5: PBu there.

2420
01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:35,800
Speaker 6: Yet. Oh it's a good job by Pepper's not getting

2421
01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:44,160
Speaker 6: don't don't I know they'll come running over touch the merchandise. Yeah,

2422
01:56:44,280 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 6: Hurts was a little bit behind on the throw.

2423
01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:48,720
Speaker 1: Throw.

2424
01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:53,200
Speaker 4: But you start to see just when a special connection

2425
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:56,760
Speaker 4: exists between a quarterback and a receiver that it's hard

2426
01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:59,360
Speaker 4: to stop. Man, that doesn't have to be much room

2427
01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:00,280
Speaker 4: for them to make place.

2428
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:07,040
Speaker 1: I'll start, and we've got something going on here in

2429
01:57:07,120 --> 01:57:08,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots offense.

2430
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 5: You talking the penalty city about a false star city. Yeah,

2431
01:57:11,320 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 5: it looks like a city I use on my radar

2432
01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 5: at least three. So we got to weig got a

2433
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:26,480
Speaker 5: flag over in the Patriots defensive field too. I don't

2434
01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:29,760
Speaker 5: know who this one's on. Legal man downfield looks like okay.

2435
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:33,200
Speaker 1: So interesting. After that last flag, Mayo walked over to

2436
01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:36,360
Speaker 1: a VP and kind of, you know, hands up, like

2437
01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:40,520
Speaker 1: palms up, like what's going on? So just getting a

2438
01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:48,080
Speaker 1: little impatient with this, as are the analysts on the ramp. Oh,

2439
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:51,400
Speaker 1: Pain's got to catch that through the hands of taekwon

2440
01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:52,000
Speaker 1: over the middle.

2441
01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:54,280
Speaker 5: Is that too, what, Yeah, it looks it looks like

2442
01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:58,200
Speaker 5: it looks like I think might have gotten a piece

2443
01:57:58,240 --> 01:58:00,920
Speaker 5: of it. Yeah, I agree based on his reaction. Yeah,

2444
01:58:03,400 --> 01:58:06,360
Speaker 5: balls a little behind that, balls up front, I agree.

2445
01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:07,240
Speaker 5: I think he was open.

2446
01:58:07,480 --> 01:58:10,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. And plus it's not contested catch kind of tough

2447
01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:14,760
Speaker 1: ait not Taekwon Thornton. See lots of guys on the ground.

2448
01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:19,960
Speaker 6: Oh boy, little accident, a little accidental defense there by

2449
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:20,560
Speaker 6: the Patriots.

2450
01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:24,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, underthrown deep ball had DeVante Smith for another touchdown

2451
01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:24,760
Speaker 5: on one of.

2452
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:31,480
Speaker 1: Those deep routs. Flag though, those are the yeah in

2453
01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:33,360
Speaker 1: the back of holding on the Eagles.

2454
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:38,560
Speaker 7: Those are the little throws with Kobe that you notice

2455
01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:41,280
Speaker 7: where it's like the ball placement just is a little

2456
01:58:41,320 --> 01:58:44,360
Speaker 7: bit off, like it's it's in. It's still generally accurate,

2457
01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:47,000
Speaker 7: but yeah, the ball he just needs a little bit

2458
01:58:47,080 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 7: further in front and it's behind or you know, a

2459
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:51,920
Speaker 7: little off the shoulder or whatever. And and those are

2460
01:58:51,960 --> 01:58:59,480
Speaker 7: the differences a lot of the time it might be

2461
01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:01,800
Speaker 7: shoudn't be it Andrews down. For the rest of his practice,

2462
01:59:02,520 --> 01:59:06,320
Speaker 7: Drake May was practicing snaps with coffee leverage in there.

2463
01:59:06,360 --> 01:59:07,920
Speaker 7: Now with with the top three.

2464
01:59:10,360 --> 01:59:15,320
Speaker 5: Good protection oh you can't miss that throw.

2465
01:59:16,480 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hooper had at least a step on it down

2466
01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:22,480
Speaker 1: right down the middle of the field and just set

2467
01:59:22,560 --> 01:59:23,200
Speaker 1: overthrow him.

2468
01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:28,960
Speaker 5: There was no safety over the top either, and can't

2469
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:29,480
Speaker 5: miss that, bro.

2470
01:59:29,840 --> 01:59:35,080
Speaker 1: Yeah you know those don't come open that often. Yeah.

2471
01:59:40,840 --> 01:59:43,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of work for Jude on today. I

2472
01:59:43,400 --> 01:59:45,200
Speaker 4: wasn't sure what quite what we'd see from him. But

2473
01:59:46,080 --> 01:59:46,960
Speaker 4: that Hurts back in there.

2474
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:47,160
Speaker 8: Now?

2475
01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:58,080
Speaker 5: Who interesting run by Byremindra? Yeah, du you don't thins

2476
01:59:58,120 --> 01:59:59,200
Speaker 5: be playing at full speed today?

2477
01:59:59,240 --> 01:59:59,400
Speaker 1: Like not?

2478
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:07,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's like job good, good rush. Yeah, pressure run.

2479
02:00:07,160 --> 02:00:09,480
Speaker 5: It looked like to have three or four that would

2480
02:00:09,480 --> 02:00:10,040
Speaker 5: have been a sack.

2481
02:00:10,240 --> 02:00:12,480
Speaker 7: So that was the same pressure that they ran earlier

2482
02:00:13,280 --> 02:00:16,520
Speaker 7: with Judn dropping into coverage, and this time the blitz

2483
02:00:16,560 --> 02:00:18,680
Speaker 7: itself actually got home. He was matched up with Dallas

2484
02:00:18,760 --> 02:00:21,880
Speaker 7: Goddard I think one on one, and uh, if Hurts

2485
02:00:21,920 --> 02:00:24,320
Speaker 7: had any time in there, he would have hey Goddard

2486
02:00:24,400 --> 02:00:26,240
Speaker 7: over the middle. But that's that's what they're trying to

2487
02:00:26,320 --> 02:00:29,840
Speaker 7: get with that pressure. A nice blitz picked.

2488
02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:35,720
Speaker 1: Up spot flags, lots of flags on that pick by

2489
02:00:35,800 --> 02:00:37,720
Speaker 1: the Eagles. We'll see what the call is.

2490
02:00:39,640 --> 02:00:41,600
Speaker 5: Jeremiah Trotter Junior, I don't see it.

2491
02:00:41,840 --> 02:00:43,320
Speaker 1: You see a single by.

2492
02:00:43,200 --> 02:00:45,880
Speaker 4: The refs, I have not seen it. I feel like

2493
02:00:45,920 --> 02:00:48,800
Speaker 4: he was pointed at the Patriots side of things. Scott

2494
02:00:48,840 --> 02:00:51,520
Speaker 4: Peters went over, I think to get some clarification legal

2495
02:00:51,960 --> 02:00:54,240
Speaker 4: face mask or hands to the face or something like that,

2496
02:00:54,320 --> 02:00:55,680
Speaker 4: personal file face mask.

2497
02:00:59,320 --> 02:01:01,280
Speaker 1: Racked it up. Now on with the Eagles side of

2498
02:01:01,280 --> 02:01:01,680
Speaker 1: the feeling.

2499
02:01:03,480 --> 02:01:05,560
Speaker 5: I didn't see the throw. I just saw the results

2500
02:01:05,600 --> 02:01:07,600
Speaker 5: of the Yeah, so there's a blitz, and I thought

2501
02:01:07,680 --> 02:01:10,320
Speaker 5: Gibson actually did a pretty good job picking it up initially,

2502
02:01:10,480 --> 02:01:12,320
Speaker 5: but then he just kind of tried to dump it

2503
02:01:12,440 --> 02:01:16,040
Speaker 5: late over the middle and uh and Jeremiah Trotter Junior

2504
02:01:16,160 --> 02:01:17,760
Speaker 5: just stepped in front of their third pitch.

2505
02:01:18,880 --> 02:01:20,120
Speaker 1: All right, Drake May's turn.

2506
02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:25,000
Speaker 5: This has not been a great day for Jacobi. He's no.

2507
02:01:25,160 --> 02:01:28,480
Speaker 5: I think the offense looks every bit as pedestrian as

2508
02:01:28,520 --> 02:01:29,360
Speaker 5: it hasn't practice.

2509
02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:32,080
Speaker 1: Got Poking Baker out there with him. Yeah.

2510
02:01:32,600 --> 02:01:35,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it looks like Kashawan Boody is the other outside receiver.

2511
02:01:37,040 --> 02:01:38,400
Speaker 1: It rolled up jerseys.

2512
02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:43,240
Speaker 5: Outside them.

2513
02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:51,920
Speaker 1: Hm uh oh, it's some more uh more feistiness out there.

2514
02:01:52,240 --> 02:01:56,360
Speaker 1: Poking Volve swatched to the helmet. We gotta gotta clean

2515
02:01:56,440 --> 02:02:00,320
Speaker 1: that up, guys, don't let it ask of late.

2516
02:02:06,880 --> 02:02:07,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, we got two's going.

2517
02:02:08,200 --> 02:02:12,840
Speaker 7: I guess on both sides here, see if I can

2518
02:02:13,240 --> 02:02:15,320
Speaker 7: get somebody free down the field for him.

2519
02:02:15,440 --> 02:02:17,320
Speaker 5: I think we're into threes for the Eagles.

2520
02:02:17,440 --> 02:02:26,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, drop, that was a little early contact. It looked like,

2521
02:02:26,920 --> 02:02:29,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, no flag though, like a peck way

2522
02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:37,560
Speaker 1: oh oh geez passed over the middle by the Eagles, bobbled,

2523
02:02:38,040 --> 02:02:42,080
Speaker 1: not caught. Could have been a pick there. Not from

2524
02:02:42,120 --> 02:02:42,720
Speaker 1: Marco though.

2525
02:02:43,360 --> 02:02:45,480
Speaker 4: It seems like Alex Austin the one today getting some

2526
02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:48,720
Speaker 4: more of those reps with Jay Jones out, which it

2527
02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:51,160
Speaker 4: just feels like Marco Wilson Alex Austin kind of going

2528
02:02:51,200 --> 02:02:53,400
Speaker 4: back and forth for that outside spot.

2529
02:02:54,320 --> 02:02:56,280
Speaker 5: Can you tell if that's thirteen or sixteen?

2530
02:02:58,240 --> 02:02:58,400
Speaker 1: Ah?

2531
02:03:01,160 --> 02:03:15,640
Speaker 5: Oh please, sad, not the right side again. Sixteen it's

2532
02:03:15,800 --> 02:03:20,080
Speaker 5: Tan McKeith. Oh okay, stand.

2533
02:03:20,480 --> 02:03:23,440
Speaker 6: You just get to feel that so far they haven't

2534
02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:27,360
Speaker 6: allowed Drake to show his palents, like everything is like

2535
02:03:27,760 --> 02:03:29,440
Speaker 6: are they allowing Drake to be Drake?

2536
02:03:29,880 --> 02:03:32,800
Speaker 1: Do you mean the Eagles are the Patriots? Oh, the Patriots, you.

2537
02:03:32,840 --> 02:03:33,480
Speaker 8: Know, Like.

2538
02:03:35,080 --> 02:03:37,160
Speaker 5: I feel like they're doing it in steps, like.

2539
02:03:37,360 --> 02:03:39,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very very small steps.

2540
02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:41,720
Speaker 5: The last play was a sack over here.

2541
02:03:42,080 --> 02:03:46,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you mean by letting be Drake?

2542
02:03:47,480 --> 02:03:50,000
Speaker 5: Like? It sounds like Fred wants him to be an

2543
02:03:50,080 --> 02:03:52,680
Speaker 5: artist more and actually let it fly and not just

2544
02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:55,680
Speaker 5: just drew a bunch of checkdowns in screens and deep

2545
02:03:55,800 --> 02:03:58,680
Speaker 5: drop and I don't know, it's he wants to see

2546
02:03:58,720 --> 02:04:00,880
Speaker 5: more off plais getting open.

2547
02:04:01,160 --> 02:04:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2548
02:04:01,440 --> 02:04:03,800
Speaker 7: I just think that that like that type of stuff

2549
02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:07,280
Speaker 7: to me is now. But you're trying to practice him

2550
02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:10,720
Speaker 7: being on time and playing on script more so than

2551
02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:13,120
Speaker 7: you are, Like you know that he's gonna be able

2552
02:04:13,160 --> 02:04:14,760
Speaker 7: to do all the off off script.

2553
02:04:15,080 --> 02:04:16,960
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I don't know that at this

2554
02:04:17,160 --> 02:04:19,080
Speaker 1: level that he can do that. I want to see it.

2555
02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:22,920
Speaker 7: I think that's a given, like he's going to have

2556
02:04:23,040 --> 02:04:25,840
Speaker 7: that ability, like he's gonna have the athleticism and all

2557
02:04:25,880 --> 02:04:31,000
Speaker 7: that stuff, but a little deep like sit curl route

2558
02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:33,400
Speaker 7: to Keshan Boudi there. I just think they're trying to

2559
02:04:33,440 --> 02:04:36,800
Speaker 7: get him to play within the structure and then once

2560
02:04:36,840 --> 02:04:39,040
Speaker 7: he goes out into a game and you start seeing

2561
02:04:39,520 --> 02:04:44,200
Speaker 7: that's now, once you start seeing him in games like

2562
02:04:44,280 --> 02:04:46,640
Speaker 7: that's when he can his instincts and his like playmaking

2563
02:04:46,680 --> 02:04:49,200
Speaker 7: ability can take over a little bit. But right now

2564
02:04:49,280 --> 02:04:52,400
Speaker 7: you're you just want to hit stuff on time, because

2565
02:04:52,440 --> 02:04:54,920
Speaker 7: if he has to live off script, like he's gonna

2566
02:04:54,920 --> 02:04:55,960
Speaker 7: have a tough time, you can't.

2567
02:04:56,600 --> 02:04:59,360
Speaker 1: You can't just do that all the time. But like

2568
02:04:59,640 --> 02:05:02,360
Speaker 1: you know, we've seen a little bit of you know,

2569
02:05:02,640 --> 02:05:05,440
Speaker 1: moving on the run and throwing, you know, design plays

2570
02:05:05,640 --> 02:05:08,720
Speaker 1: like that. But i'd like to see that's probably gonna

2571
02:05:08,720 --> 02:05:09,240
Speaker 1: happen Freends.

2572
02:05:09,280 --> 02:05:12,040
Speaker 4: Soill get into the game on Thursday and there'll be

2573
02:05:12,160 --> 02:05:15,120
Speaker 4: like a jail break rush dumb. He'll like squirt out

2574
02:05:15,160 --> 02:05:16,920
Speaker 4: and I could throw on the run and everyone will

2575
02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:18,440
Speaker 4: be like, oh my god, there it is.

2576
02:05:18,520 --> 02:05:21,240
Speaker 1: But like you said, that's a jail break, that's improvisation.

2577
02:05:21,360 --> 02:05:22,720
Speaker 1: I'm about designing it.

2578
02:05:24,640 --> 02:05:24,680
Speaker 8: That.

2579
02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:27,280
Speaker 5: It was a beautiful ball. So I don't know about that, PI.

2580
02:05:27,400 --> 02:05:27,920
Speaker 1: I think that was.

2581
02:05:31,840 --> 02:05:34,000
Speaker 5: I actually didn't think it was offensive either. I just

2582
02:05:34,040 --> 02:05:36,400
Speaker 5: thought there were two guys Jost went the position, but

2583
02:05:37,760 --> 02:05:41,800
Speaker 5: Sack anyways, But yeah, I hear you're saying Freddie he's

2584
02:05:41,840 --> 02:05:47,160
Speaker 5: not They're they're having him played within the confines of

2585
02:05:47,200 --> 02:05:52,120
Speaker 5: the offense and not necessarily using his athleticism a time. Yeah,

2586
02:05:52,240 --> 02:05:53,160
Speaker 5: And I think I can and.

2587
02:05:53,360 --> 02:05:56,520
Speaker 1: Then say that should be part of the offense, using

2588
02:05:56,600 --> 02:05:59,240
Speaker 1: his athleticism. Yeah, I don't think it should always just

2589
02:05:59,360 --> 02:06:03,440
Speaker 1: be because play broke down. I think that should be

2590
02:06:03,560 --> 02:06:09,160
Speaker 1: part of the offense. Oh Jesus, don't get another another flag,

2591
02:06:09,280 --> 02:06:11,560
Speaker 1: another jail break. We're getting killed here.

2592
02:06:11,880 --> 02:06:12,440
Speaker 5: Have a sack.

2593
02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2594
02:06:17,960 --> 02:06:20,400
Speaker 5: So I have an observation that I don't like about

2595
02:06:20,480 --> 02:06:23,440
Speaker 5: Drake may on some of those plays when he gets

2596
02:06:23,480 --> 02:06:25,640
Speaker 5: the heavy pressure on a screen, I think he very

2597
02:06:25,760 --> 02:06:28,560
Speaker 5: casually flips the ball away and puts it in harm's way.

2598
02:06:28,680 --> 02:06:32,440
Speaker 5: Man like that ball easily could have been picked off,

2599
02:06:32,560 --> 02:06:34,280
Speaker 5: and then no one's caring about this, you know, the

2600
02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:39,840
Speaker 5: would be sold whatever, you know, the holding call, Yeah,

2601
02:06:40,600 --> 02:06:43,800
Speaker 5: just very sloppy offensively, a lot a lot of penalties,

2602
02:06:44,280 --> 02:06:45,480
Speaker 5: a lot of misassignments.

2603
02:06:46,160 --> 02:06:48,240
Speaker 1: It was funny because, you know.

2604
02:06:48,240 --> 02:06:50,120
Speaker 5: He did our pregame chin wag out there, and then

2605
02:06:50,200 --> 02:06:52,560
Speaker 5: Bart was down there with us, and and and Bart

2606
02:06:52,680 --> 02:06:54,360
Speaker 5: was getting the crowd hyped up about.

2607
02:06:54,160 --> 02:06:56,440
Speaker 1: You know, everything we're gonna learn today, and he's electric.

2608
02:06:56,680 --> 02:06:57,400
Speaker 1: I can't help it.

2609
02:06:57,800 --> 02:06:59,800
Speaker 4: I can't help but feel like he's electric. I haven't

2610
02:06:59,800 --> 02:07:01,880
Speaker 4: really learn anything new. I've just been kind of reinforced

2611
02:07:01,920 --> 02:07:06,240
Speaker 4: with with what I kind of have been seeing. You know,

2612
02:07:06,560 --> 02:07:09,880
Speaker 4: it's just tough for the Patriots offense to really big plays,

2613
02:07:10,040 --> 02:07:11,240
Speaker 4: string plays together.

2614
02:07:11,560 --> 02:07:14,840
Speaker 1: You know, consistency. Yeah, if I would have say plays

2615
02:07:14,880 --> 02:07:16,880
Speaker 1: through this practice. But otherwise, if.

2616
02:07:16,720 --> 02:07:18,640
Speaker 5: I want to say one positive I've seen in the

2617
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:23,080
Speaker 5: team periods, I think the Patriots front has been stout. Defensively,

2618
02:07:23,360 --> 02:07:25,160
Speaker 5: Patriots defensive front has been stout.

2619
02:07:25,840 --> 02:07:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2620
02:07:26,080 --> 02:07:29,760
Speaker 5: I think they've gotten They look like they've done a

2621
02:07:29,760 --> 02:07:31,720
Speaker 5: good job on the against the run, and I think

2622
02:07:31,760 --> 02:07:33,760
Speaker 5: they've gotten a decent amount of pressure on the passer.

2623
02:07:34,280 --> 02:07:37,800
Speaker 5: Now overall, I would say the Eagles have made a

2624
02:07:37,840 --> 02:07:39,080
Speaker 5: lot of big plays offensively.

2625
02:07:39,120 --> 02:07:39,360
Speaker 1: I don't.

2626
02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:44,080
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to like paint a Rosie picture, but

2627
02:07:44,240 --> 02:07:46,080
Speaker 5: I think that the front has been pretty good for

2628
02:07:46,160 --> 02:07:49,720
Speaker 5: the defense offensively. Really be surgic for something that you liked.

2629
02:07:50,280 --> 02:07:53,480
Speaker 1: I agree. Hey, the fact that always seen so far

2630
02:07:53,720 --> 02:07:55,920
Speaker 1: is we're set in May. Do you think that that's

2631
02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:57,480
Speaker 1: what we'll see in the preseason game.

2632
02:07:58,480 --> 02:07:58,880
Speaker 5: I don't.

2633
02:07:59,240 --> 02:07:59,360
Speaker 1: Now.

2634
02:07:59,720 --> 02:08:01,160
Speaker 5: I think you'll see May. I don't think you're going

2635
02:08:01,200 --> 02:08:02,480
Speaker 5: to see much of her set, but I don't know

2636
02:08:02,600 --> 02:08:03,080
Speaker 5: that for sure.

2637
02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would, I would agree with Paul.

2638
02:08:05,600 --> 02:08:07,160
Speaker 5: I would think I think May is going to start,

2639
02:08:07,200 --> 02:08:09,040
Speaker 5: and I think the other two we're going to play

2640
02:08:09,080 --> 02:08:10,000
Speaker 5: the majority of the game.

2641
02:08:10,280 --> 02:08:12,720
Speaker 1: Okay, oh, I would love that. And he played May

2642
02:08:12,800 --> 02:08:18,080
Speaker 1: for a whole half, for a quarter, It's like we've

2643
02:08:18,080 --> 02:08:19,960
Speaker 1: got two minute drill going on here on the left

2644
02:08:19,960 --> 02:08:22,920
Speaker 1: field a little bit. The situation, Why don't have the

2645
02:08:23,000 --> 02:08:36,720
Speaker 1: time set Hooper again? No good, No, No, that's unfortunate.

2646
02:08:37,480 --> 02:08:39,560
Speaker 5: That's a nice play though. I just I'm thinking of

2647
02:08:39,720 --> 02:08:41,800
Speaker 5: his feet and bounds. Yeah, I mean, if you had

2648
02:08:41,840 --> 02:08:45,480
Speaker 5: to pick somebody who's been stand out on offense, probably Hooper.

2649
02:08:45,520 --> 02:08:48,360
Speaker 5: I mean, ye, Hooper's been the most consistent guy. He's

2650
02:08:48,400 --> 02:08:52,200
Speaker 5: been open, hasn't always comes from the ball where he

2651
02:08:52,280 --> 02:08:54,240
Speaker 5: needs to. I mean, if he didn't have that drop

2652
02:08:54,320 --> 02:08:58,320
Speaker 5: that turned into a pick, it's a bad it's a

2653
02:08:58,360 --> 02:08:58,840
Speaker 5: bad play.

2654
02:08:58,960 --> 02:08:59,080
Speaker 1: You know.

2655
02:08:59,200 --> 02:09:02,800
Speaker 5: It's hard overlook that one. That's fair. But I think

2656
02:09:02,840 --> 02:09:04,760
Speaker 5: he's been the most consistent offensive player.

2657
02:09:04,920 --> 02:09:06,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, they've had problems with him, which is he's not

2658
02:09:07,280 --> 02:09:09,960
Speaker 7: at this stage of his career like a downnfield, dynamic

2659
02:09:10,040 --> 02:09:10,880
Speaker 7: downfield receiver.

2660
02:09:11,000 --> 02:09:14,000
Speaker 1: But he's been opened. We turn him into one. Yeah,

2661
02:09:14,000 --> 02:09:14,640
Speaker 1: that's a good play.

2662
02:09:14,760 --> 02:09:17,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, popping the slot on that those slants is just.

2663
02:09:17,520 --> 02:09:18,760
Speaker 1: Patriots are on their two minutes.

2664
02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:28,200
Speaker 5: David Andrews back in there by the way, I guess,

2665
02:09:28,400 --> 02:09:41,880
Speaker 5: uh waiting for the Patriots sack. Oh sorry, okay, kids

2666
02:09:41,920 --> 02:09:46,400
Speaker 5: don't get that one. Kids don't get that one. Remember

2667
02:09:46,520 --> 02:09:49,400
Speaker 5: sal sal Sally?

2668
02:09:51,800 --> 02:09:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was alignment for the Patriots.

2669
02:09:56,080 --> 02:09:59,760
Speaker 5: In the early oughts man must have been before. Oh

2670
02:09:59,800 --> 02:10:02,640
Speaker 5: sick is that when you started watching? That's when I

2671
02:10:02,680 --> 02:10:06,040
Speaker 5: got crazy. You didn't start watching week three of one

2672
02:10:06,160 --> 02:10:08,640
Speaker 5: like everybody else. I was in California, Paul, I had

2673
02:10:09,800 --> 02:10:11,800
Speaker 5: that's some stuff going on before I realized the Patriots

2674
02:10:11,840 --> 02:10:13,600
Speaker 5: being wagon and left the station. I need to get

2675
02:10:13,640 --> 02:10:17,080
Speaker 5: on more pressure.

2676
02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:22,320
Speaker 7: Like see that that was caught, but it's to the

2677
02:10:22,400 --> 02:10:26,120
Speaker 7: inside shoulder, like it's lucky that that's not It's similar

2678
02:10:26,120 --> 02:10:28,320
Speaker 7: to the play that Booty had the other night. Yeah,

2679
02:10:28,400 --> 02:10:30,120
Speaker 7: from ZAPPI like, I get it.

2680
02:10:30,200 --> 02:10:32,440
Speaker 5: It's you know, it's a good like I'd rather see

2681
02:10:32,440 --> 02:10:34,480
Speaker 5: the guy open and make it look like it wasn't

2682
02:10:34,520 --> 02:10:35,880
Speaker 5: almost a touchdown the other way.

2683
02:10:36,280 --> 02:10:39,240
Speaker 1: But to be fair, there's good concentration by Rager in

2684
02:10:39,360 --> 02:10:41,560
Speaker 1: traffic and he pulled it down correct, just.

2685
02:10:41,600 --> 02:10:43,840
Speaker 5: Like Booty did good, good job of catching the ball

2686
02:10:43,880 --> 02:10:45,640
Speaker 5: the other night on that play. But I'd rather see

2687
02:10:45,680 --> 02:10:47,640
Speaker 5: him get open. Oh yeah, No, it's a good. It's

2688
02:10:47,680 --> 02:10:49,720
Speaker 5: a good catch by Rager. Like I'm not trying to

2689
02:10:50,040 --> 02:10:53,000
Speaker 5: blame anything on Raager. It just the throw just needs

2690
02:10:53,040 --> 02:10:55,760
Speaker 5: to be into the sideline like he wrong shouldered to

2691
02:10:55,840 --> 02:10:58,560
Speaker 5: throw and that's what gave the defender a chance. And

2692
02:10:58,600 --> 02:11:00,000
Speaker 5: then the next play he tries to run a quick

2693
02:11:00,200 --> 02:11:02,400
Speaker 5: out with the guys right in there. Now there's a

2694
02:11:02,480 --> 02:11:04,920
Speaker 5: flag over there, so I don't know if maybe it's

2695
02:11:04,960 --> 02:11:11,560
Speaker 5: a illegal contact. I didn't see any signal. Looks like

2696
02:11:11,680 --> 02:11:17,720
Speaker 5: Mayo is trying to get the down in distance situated. Yeah,

2697
02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:20,360
Speaker 5: these these slants have been just like pitch and catch

2698
02:11:20,440 --> 02:11:23,280
Speaker 5: for the Eagles. Yea, even with pressure like that one right,

2699
02:11:23,320 --> 02:11:24,560
Speaker 5: it was guys coming and.

2700
02:11:26,080 --> 02:11:26,600
Speaker 1: Got start.

2701
02:11:26,720 --> 02:11:29,360
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts on those, I mean clearly trusts A. J.

2702
02:11:29,520 --> 02:11:32,840
Speaker 4: Brown And that's just what Brown has. He's got that physicality.

2703
02:11:33,000 --> 02:11:34,920
Speaker 5: Like they're getting pressure though, I will say that now

2704
02:11:34,960 --> 02:11:36,520
Speaker 5: they we're in a little bit of a scrambled drill

2705
02:11:36,560 --> 02:11:37,800
Speaker 5: and he's going to take what he can get.

2706
02:11:39,080 --> 02:11:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are the place Hurts look great. A few

2707
02:11:40,800 --> 02:11:41,480
Speaker 1: summers ago.

2708
02:11:43,200 --> 02:11:47,520
Speaker 5: On the couple catches in this one from Pots got

2709
02:11:47,600 --> 02:11:49,120
Speaker 5: open on a shallow cross.

2710
02:11:48,880 --> 02:11:50,720
Speaker 1: There down on the red zone.

2711
02:11:51,720 --> 02:11:53,560
Speaker 5: So now that's one off of Hooper's hands.

2712
02:11:53,680 --> 02:11:56,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, could have been caught.

2713
02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:06,160
Speaker 5: Just the execution offensively is not anywhere near where it

2714
02:12:06,200 --> 02:12:06,600
Speaker 5: moves to go.

2715
02:12:08,080 --> 02:12:12,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, it really feels to me when they do have

2716
02:12:12,320 --> 02:12:16,960
Speaker 7: downfield opportunities the passes that set just hasn't been put

2717
02:12:17,000 --> 02:12:20,200
Speaker 7: in the ball in great places and they had uh

2718
02:12:21,080 --> 02:12:25,040
Speaker 7: Hooper that should have been a touchdown down here taekwon

2719
02:12:25,120 --> 02:12:27,520
Speaker 7: over the middle was open, I thought against Darius Lady

2720
02:12:27,600 --> 02:12:29,840
Speaker 7: threw it behind him, Like these are the little throws

2721
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:32,080
Speaker 7: that they don't have the margin for error for him

2722
02:12:32,120 --> 02:12:33,800
Speaker 7: to to be missing.

2723
02:12:35,400 --> 02:12:35,600
Speaker 1: There.

2724
02:12:37,840 --> 02:12:40,200
Speaker 5: First team offense still going. He s the Patriots first

2725
02:12:40,200 --> 02:12:42,480
Speaker 5: thing defense. But Marco Wilson getting it getting it shot

2726
02:12:43,680 --> 02:12:47,160
Speaker 5: in this kind of situational because it's I guess we're

2727
02:12:47,200 --> 02:12:49,200
Speaker 5: doing a situation on the right bill too. There's no

2728
02:12:49,320 --> 02:12:51,760
Speaker 5: clock going for them. It's nothing I can see.

2729
02:12:51,840 --> 02:12:54,800
Speaker 7: But yeah, but some some good catches from Pop and

2730
02:12:54,840 --> 02:12:57,120
Speaker 7: I agree with Fred that Rager made a good adjustment

2731
02:12:57,160 --> 02:13:00,200
Speaker 7: on that catch that was behind him. So on the

2732
02:13:00,280 --> 02:13:02,960
Speaker 7: inside here a couple of plays for the offense, but.

2733
02:13:10,360 --> 02:13:19,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, covers the early rout no problem money in the bank.

2734
02:13:20,200 --> 02:13:27,480
Speaker 1: A J. Brown. I was watching White on that play.

2735
02:13:27,720 --> 02:13:30,760
Speaker 1: He shaded off center and got double team to just Stone.

2736
02:13:31,000 --> 02:13:31,200
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2737
02:13:31,920 --> 02:13:34,880
Speaker 5: I mean that's I don't want to judge him off

2738
02:13:34,920 --> 02:13:36,720
Speaker 5: the double team, but it's just it's hard to gets

2739
02:13:36,720 --> 02:13:37,240
Speaker 5: swallowed up.

2740
02:13:37,320 --> 02:13:40,320
Speaker 1: And you know, he doesn't really make guys miss like you.

2741
02:13:41,920 --> 02:13:45,080
Speaker 1: You don't's got that little duck, little shouldered duck.

2742
02:13:47,240 --> 02:13:52,240
Speaker 5: It's too bad. JJ McCarthy knee surgery in Minnesota. No,

2743
02:13:52,560 --> 02:13:54,720
Speaker 5: I thought that he wasn't. I sorry, he wasn't practicing

2744
02:13:54,800 --> 02:13:57,960
Speaker 5: because of the knee injuries. Did he get hurt games? Yeah,

2745
02:13:58,000 --> 02:14:00,280
Speaker 5: I mean, see I got hurt, and uh, why you.

2746
02:14:00,240 --> 02:14:02,400
Speaker 6: Don't play rookies in the preseason? And he was having

2747
02:14:02,440 --> 02:14:06,360
Speaker 6: a good uh for any camp, right mcart Okay.

2748
02:14:06,600 --> 02:14:10,760
Speaker 1: To give the other night, Yeah, had some good handoffs.

2749
02:14:11,960 --> 02:14:14,680
Speaker 5: Through Jack Johnson and how the Patriots defense was jumping

2750
02:14:14,720 --> 02:14:19,560
Speaker 5: off side down there in Yeah, I think that was Wait, all.

2751
02:14:19,520 --> 02:14:21,520
Speaker 7: Right, Drake May is gonna get the two minutes. Drake

2752
02:14:21,600 --> 02:14:25,720
Speaker 7: May excuse me, Jacoby's two minutes just stalled out. I

2753
02:14:25,840 --> 02:14:28,400
Speaker 7: believe they went for and out once they got down.

2754
02:14:28,600 --> 02:14:28,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2755
02:14:28,800 --> 02:14:34,640
Speaker 7: So they had incomplete to Rager pass breakup incomplete in

2756
02:14:34,680 --> 02:14:36,720
Speaker 7: the back of the end zone and a dropped by

2757
02:14:36,760 --> 02:14:37,840
Speaker 7: Austin Hooper there that.

2758
02:14:38,080 --> 02:14:41,440
Speaker 5: At a rare time where I saw Mario Douglas covered

2759
02:14:41,880 --> 02:14:42,600
Speaker 5: that last play.

2760
02:14:46,720 --> 02:14:50,560
Speaker 7: Now, I'm not sure in the game if some of

2761
02:14:50,600 --> 02:14:52,760
Speaker 7: those negative plays in the early part of the drive

2762
02:14:52,880 --> 02:14:54,440
Speaker 7: might have blown up the drive. But they did get

2763
02:14:54,520 --> 02:14:56,080
Speaker 7: down there on a couple of nice plays.

2764
02:14:56,840 --> 02:14:57,560
Speaker 1: See, that's the thing.

2765
02:14:57,680 --> 02:15:00,320
Speaker 5: And I try to explain that in practice, like everybody's like, oh, well,

2766
02:15:00,440 --> 02:15:02,600
Speaker 5: successful drive. Like, well, I don't know if they would

2767
02:15:02,600 --> 02:15:05,600
Speaker 5: have converted that second and twenty two right after the sack.

2768
02:15:05,440 --> 02:15:08,040
Speaker 7: On first out right, there was one sack in there

2769
02:15:08,160 --> 02:15:10,839
Speaker 7: that probably would have put them in second and eighteen

2770
02:15:11,000 --> 02:15:11,680
Speaker 7: or something like that.

2771
02:15:11,800 --> 02:15:12,560
Speaker 5: And who knows, but.

2772
02:15:15,520 --> 02:15:21,360
Speaker 1: Pressure sacka sure, that's like a stretcher came from behind.

2773
02:15:21,480 --> 02:15:22,480
Speaker 1: May It's just like.

2774
02:15:23,040 --> 02:15:25,400
Speaker 5: If you're doing like the sequence of plays, right, you know,

2775
02:15:25,440 --> 02:15:27,800
Speaker 5: when the Patriots had the ball, you know, they tried

2776
02:15:27,840 --> 02:15:30,040
Speaker 5: to hit like a deep over to Hooper that he

2777
02:15:30,280 --> 02:15:32,280
Speaker 5: wasn't able to get his feed inviounds. Right, So now

2778
02:15:32,440 --> 02:15:35,600
Speaker 5: second and ten, a little shallow cross to Douglas that

2779
02:15:35,640 --> 02:15:37,760
Speaker 5: would have gotten them let's just say five yards.

2780
02:15:38,160 --> 02:15:40,360
Speaker 1: So now it's third and five. That's when the sack happened.

2781
02:15:41,600 --> 02:15:44,440
Speaker 1: The next play was a sack. So now it's now

2782
02:15:44,480 --> 02:15:47,280
Speaker 1: it's fourth and long. Who knows right?

2783
02:15:47,320 --> 02:15:49,080
Speaker 5: I mean like this is the same thing that was

2784
02:15:49,120 --> 02:15:51,720
Speaker 5: a sack by Nolan Smith, no doubt about it. Defensive

2785
02:15:51,760 --> 02:15:56,120
Speaker 5: play there by Hawkins. Smith, Hawkins, a nice job getting

2786
02:15:56,200 --> 02:15:58,120
Speaker 5: underneath Dallas, got her there more pressure.

2787
02:15:58,200 --> 02:16:02,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, other sack. There's your visual letting him loose though

2788
02:16:02,360 --> 02:16:06,400
Speaker 1: that's not what I was had in mind. He was

2789
02:16:06,440 --> 02:16:07,640
Speaker 1: probably sacked on that foot.

2790
02:16:07,680 --> 02:16:11,440
Speaker 5: Get back to back sacks now on yep, I mean

2791
02:16:11,480 --> 02:16:13,440
Speaker 5: he and these are sacks. To be clear that there's

2792
02:16:13,480 --> 02:16:13,920
Speaker 5: no chance.

2793
02:16:14,520 --> 02:16:19,600
Speaker 1: This is two minutes drill right, this is things are

2794
02:16:19,640 --> 02:16:29,680
Speaker 1: supposed to be happening fast. Oh yeah, yeah, you know

2795
02:16:29,880 --> 02:16:32,680
Speaker 1: in all you know that was off the mark by

2796
02:16:32,920 --> 02:16:35,160
Speaker 1: may on that last past. But nobody was open, No,

2797
02:16:35,400 --> 02:16:36,920
Speaker 1: he was coveraged. Nobody was open.

2798
02:16:37,120 --> 02:16:38,920
Speaker 7: Now he's starting to come back round to Keisha on

2799
02:16:38,959 --> 02:16:42,640
Speaker 7: Boodi who is not open. So we have sacks, sacks

2800
02:16:42,760 --> 02:16:45,360
Speaker 7: now that they just called a sack over there that

2801
02:16:45,879 --> 02:16:49,960
Speaker 7: the Patriot might have touched herts on the shoulder. That

2802
02:16:50,160 --> 02:16:52,000
Speaker 7: was a That was a quick whistle. I think the

2803
02:16:52,040 --> 02:16:56,000
Speaker 7: Eagles are upset about it too. That was a really

2804
02:16:56,080 --> 02:16:56,640
Speaker 7: quick whistle.

2805
02:16:57,160 --> 02:17:00,320
Speaker 5: Your boot down here. That looked like another sack. Yeah,

2806
02:17:00,400 --> 02:17:04,240
Speaker 5: he ran by him. That's the guy running down the fields,

2807
02:17:04,280 --> 02:17:09,320
Speaker 5: that Nakobe Dean oh Man, Yeah, seventeen.

2808
02:17:09,879 --> 02:17:14,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the n Kobe Dean's the Nolan Smith.

2809
02:17:14,560 --> 02:17:17,680
Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, it's like you uh, it's like you're

2810
02:17:17,680 --> 02:17:20,360
Speaker 5: watching the sec from like two years ago, four years ago.

2811
02:17:25,320 --> 02:17:29,880
Speaker 1: It's like, we got a third down and long for

2812
02:17:30,080 --> 02:17:31,360
Speaker 1: the Eagles first team offenses.

2813
02:17:31,480 --> 02:17:33,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, well they just got a sack. They just got sacked.

2814
02:17:37,879 --> 02:17:40,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. That was not a good sequence by either Brissette

2815
02:17:40,879 --> 02:17:46,680
Speaker 1: or may or the Patriots offense right edge here.

2816
02:17:46,760 --> 02:17:58,320
Speaker 5: So he's gotten juice. You got about half of it

2817
02:17:58,440 --> 02:18:03,040
Speaker 5: back the fourth down for the Eagles. Yeah, I mean,

2818
02:18:03,320 --> 02:18:05,400
Speaker 5: you know, good, pretty good. Little pressure from the Patriots.

2819
02:18:05,400 --> 02:18:08,760
Speaker 5: I mean credit to Hurts. He's standing in there making

2820
02:18:08,800 --> 02:18:16,959
Speaker 5: throws under pressure. Wow.

2821
02:18:18,280 --> 02:18:19,440
Speaker 1: Somewhere Matt Morrel is happy.

2822
02:18:19,640 --> 02:18:22,080
Speaker 5: Yes, see his shirt yesterday.

2823
02:18:23,520 --> 02:18:24,160
Speaker 1: It was hard.

2824
02:18:24,840 --> 02:18:28,920
Speaker 5: So it sounds like a meniscous injury for JJ McCarthy.

2825
02:18:29,120 --> 02:18:29,720
Speaker 5: That's not good.

2826
02:18:29,840 --> 02:18:31,880
Speaker 7: But they're saying it's gonna be a trim, not a

2827
02:18:31,959 --> 02:18:34,879
Speaker 7: full repair, so they're hoping he's gonna that's a couple

2828
02:18:34,920 --> 02:18:37,000
Speaker 7: of months. It would be Sam Darnold to start the

2829
02:18:37,080 --> 02:18:38,000
Speaker 7: season at least.

2830
02:18:41,240 --> 02:18:42,000
Speaker 1: It's too bad.

2831
02:18:45,280 --> 02:18:53,600
Speaker 5: Jesus, I guess that's a touchdown. Yes, they blew the whistle.

2832
02:18:53,680 --> 02:18:55,720
Speaker 5: It just gave him a first down, but they converted that.

2833
02:18:55,959 --> 02:18:57,640
Speaker 5: It was like a fourth and six or seven. They

2834
02:18:57,720 --> 02:19:01,600
Speaker 5: converted that easy under Sures just flicked it out there.

2835
02:19:02,200 --> 02:19:04,120
Speaker 7: I think that they're saying the time ran out on

2836
02:19:04,160 --> 02:19:06,040
Speaker 7: the clock. Yeah, yeah, because he threw it in the

2837
02:19:06,080 --> 02:19:11,080
Speaker 7: middle of the field and then Alex Austin tackled aj Brown. Okay, yeah,

2838
02:19:11,600 --> 02:19:14,400
Speaker 7: he tackled him, Paul, he tackled I'm not even sure

2839
02:19:14,440 --> 02:19:15,160
Speaker 7: he ever touched it.

2840
02:19:16,120 --> 02:19:18,280
Speaker 5: If it was one hand touch, I think he almost gone. Yeah,

2841
02:19:18,480 --> 02:19:19,959
Speaker 5: they said it happened in the middle of the field.

2842
02:19:20,000 --> 02:19:21,560
Speaker 5: You don't have you don't have any time out, so

2843
02:19:21,640 --> 02:19:24,920
Speaker 5: I will say this right, but you like, that's a

2844
02:19:25,000 --> 02:19:28,320
Speaker 5: lot of context there, Like if that's truly a fourth

2845
02:19:28,400 --> 02:19:32,320
Speaker 5: down play with less than fifteen seconds left and the

2846
02:19:32,360 --> 02:19:36,039
Speaker 5: Eagles have no timeouts, that's not bad defense. Yeah, that's

2847
02:19:36,200 --> 02:19:38,000
Speaker 5: like you give him something in the middle of the field.

2848
02:19:38,440 --> 02:19:42,280
Speaker 5: They can't get another playoffs right now. I would argue

2849
02:19:42,320 --> 02:19:44,000
Speaker 5: that he was not close enough to make a tackle

2850
02:19:44,840 --> 02:19:48,240
Speaker 5: and there was nobody else over there. But that's some

2851
02:19:48,480 --> 02:19:50,720
Speaker 5: context that lends to it, like, right, that's kind of

2852
02:19:50,760 --> 02:19:54,240
Speaker 5: what you're supposed to do, right, right, Just Joe Milton

2853
02:19:54,360 --> 02:19:58,720
Speaker 5: getting a little uh little rep rep here at the

2854
02:19:58,840 --> 02:19:59,440
Speaker 5: end of practice.

2855
02:20:00,040 --> 02:20:00,640
Speaker 1: Did he rep.

2856
02:20:03,240 --> 02:20:07,920
Speaker 5: Starting at the fifty fumble the snap and he runs

2857
02:20:07,959 --> 02:20:10,360
Speaker 5: for seventeen yards and the cop goes wild. It's a

2858
02:20:10,480 --> 02:20:13,360
Speaker 5: repeat of Thursday night. Yeah, that did not happen.

2859
02:20:15,480 --> 02:20:18,600
Speaker 1: He did not run for thirty yuys. No, he simply

2860
02:20:18,640 --> 02:20:23,080
Speaker 1: picked up the snap, walked back to the bottle. Other field.

2861
02:20:23,080 --> 02:20:27,000
Speaker 1: We got picket going against a picket and stick. Yeah.

2862
02:20:27,040 --> 02:20:31,080
Speaker 5: Second, so I'd assume that this we're running down here.

2863
02:20:31,400 --> 02:20:34,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, I thought that the that Drake May started

2864
02:20:34,600 --> 02:20:38,320
Speaker 7: out okay today, looked pretty good in that first elevens

2865
02:20:38,400 --> 02:20:41,360
Speaker 7: round that he had, and then, like everything else with

2866
02:20:41,440 --> 02:20:43,680
Speaker 7: the offense, it quickly went off the rails after that.

2867
02:20:43,920 --> 02:20:48,240
Speaker 7: But that last hurry up that he had, I'm just

2868
02:20:48,879 --> 02:20:50,720
Speaker 7: I'm not trying to make excuses for him, but I

2869
02:20:50,959 --> 02:20:52,400
Speaker 7: just don't know what else he's supposed to do with

2870
02:20:52,800 --> 02:20:55,200
Speaker 7: three sacks on the four place. Yeah, And it's not

2871
02:20:55,480 --> 02:20:57,640
Speaker 7: like he's holding the ball back there either, Like there's

2872
02:20:57,680 --> 02:21:00,640
Speaker 7: a there's pressure coming in a timely man, and it's

2873
02:21:01,920 --> 02:21:04,320
Speaker 7: I just don't know what he's supposed to do. The

2874
02:21:04,400 --> 02:21:06,320
Speaker 7: one pass he did get off was an incompletion that

2875
02:21:06,440 --> 02:21:08,920
Speaker 7: Keshon Boudi, who was blanketed in by the coverage.

2876
02:21:08,959 --> 02:21:16,800
Speaker 1: It's just it's top Well, listen, if I'm if I'm

2877
02:21:16,840 --> 02:21:21,400
Speaker 1: a Patriots coach right now, what this practice is telling

2878
02:21:21,480 --> 02:21:23,640
Speaker 1: me is how much work we have to do. And

2879
02:21:23,760 --> 02:21:29,000
Speaker 1: it's a lot. And yeah, I mean I and there's

2880
02:21:29,080 --> 02:21:32,480
Speaker 1: definitely a talent disparity between these two teams. Oh we

2881
02:21:32,640 --> 02:21:32,960
Speaker 1: drop it.

2882
02:21:34,560 --> 02:21:37,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, Milton tried to hit Chakway Jackson, his new favorite target.

2883
02:21:37,640 --> 02:21:39,400
Speaker 5: I think twenty seven got a hand in it, and

2884
02:21:39,520 --> 02:21:42,800
Speaker 5: it looked like forty something forty three maybe had a

2885
02:21:42,879 --> 02:21:44,360
Speaker 5: chance with a deflection, but dropped it.

2886
02:21:45,800 --> 02:21:47,720
Speaker 4: I think the point of what Evan's been saying a

2887
02:21:47,760 --> 02:21:50,040
Speaker 4: little bit, I mean everybody's really been hinting at is

2888
02:21:50,160 --> 02:21:52,560
Speaker 4: you know, we see just a little bit how limited

2889
02:21:52,840 --> 02:21:56,400
Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissett really is on some of these downfield passes,

2890
02:21:56,440 --> 02:21:58,520
Speaker 4: and you know, at some point the drum beats just

2891
02:21:58,640 --> 02:21:59,959
Speaker 4: I mean, we're not going to get it this last

2892
02:22:00,000 --> 02:22:01,680
Speaker 4: stay of training camp, so it's going to be behind

2893
02:22:01,680 --> 02:22:04,879
Speaker 4: the scenes. But yeah, give Drake May a chance behind

2894
02:22:05,080 --> 02:22:08,080
Speaker 4: your best offensive line. It's you know, see if if

2895
02:22:08,120 --> 02:22:10,240
Speaker 4: he's going to make those downfield throws and you know,

2896
02:22:10,360 --> 02:22:12,440
Speaker 4: it's I mean, I feel like that's the route that

2897
02:22:12,520 --> 02:22:14,440
Speaker 4: it's gonna have to be behind the scenes for Drake

2898
02:22:14,480 --> 02:22:16,840
Speaker 4: May to get in this year and really, you know,

2899
02:22:16,959 --> 02:22:18,000
Speaker 4: start playing.

2900
02:22:18,320 --> 02:22:20,040
Speaker 5: Is he's got to show that well.

2901
02:22:20,120 --> 02:22:21,800
Speaker 1: I think it might not be perfect, but I think

2902
02:22:21,879 --> 02:22:26,120
Speaker 1: it comes down to how bad or decent do you

2903
02:22:26,200 --> 02:22:29,280
Speaker 1: think that this offensive line truly is. If it's as

2904
02:22:29,320 --> 02:22:31,080
Speaker 1: bad as some of the critics say, then what's the

2905
02:22:31,120 --> 02:22:33,880
Speaker 1: point of putting May out? If you can't operate the offense,

2906
02:22:33,959 --> 02:22:36,320
Speaker 1: what's the point. But if you think it's decent, then

2907
02:22:36,360 --> 02:22:38,240
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Duce. Let's let's see what you can do.

2908
02:22:38,400 --> 02:22:40,440
Speaker 7: And that's probably what the first month of the season

2909
02:22:40,560 --> 02:22:44,560
Speaker 7: will be, will be gauging how bad and how frankly,

2910
02:22:44,640 --> 02:22:46,520
Speaker 7: how how dangerous it kind of is to put him

2911
02:22:46,560 --> 02:22:49,000
Speaker 7: in there behind and off the offensive line. Like if

2912
02:22:49,240 --> 02:22:51,240
Speaker 7: if they're okay for the first you know, the month

2913
02:22:51,240 --> 02:22:54,160
Speaker 7: of September, maybe in October up front, and it's not

2914
02:22:54,200 --> 02:22:56,960
Speaker 7: gonna be great, but maybe they're just okay, then oh boy,

2915
02:22:57,120 --> 02:22:58,879
Speaker 7: then you can you can put him back there at

2916
02:22:58,959 --> 02:23:01,240
Speaker 7: some point but the throws that I see with Jacoby

2917
02:23:01,280 --> 02:23:04,880
Speaker 7: Brissetter just it's just little little things here with his

2918
02:23:05,040 --> 02:23:08,640
Speaker 7: accuracy where it's just not quite good enough. Like it's

2919
02:23:08,680 --> 02:23:11,200
Speaker 7: not that it's terrible, you know that he's can't hit

2920
02:23:11,240 --> 02:23:13,640
Speaker 7: the broadside of a barn type of thing, but it's just.

2921
02:23:14,440 --> 02:23:15,760
Speaker 1: He's off by like half.

2922
02:23:15,800 --> 02:23:18,160
Speaker 7: It it's not Tim Tebow. Yeah, no, it's not Tim

2923
02:23:18,200 --> 02:23:20,200
Speaker 7: Tebow by any means. But he's just off by that

2924
02:23:20,360 --> 02:23:24,240
Speaker 7: little bit that makes a difference in the NFL. His eyes,

2925
02:23:24,360 --> 02:23:26,160
Speaker 7: like his reads are good. You know, he's going the

2926
02:23:26,240 --> 02:23:28,840
Speaker 7: right places with the ball more times than not. But

2927
02:23:29,000 --> 02:23:30,000
Speaker 7: he you know, he just throws a.

2928
02:23:30,000 --> 02:23:34,640
Speaker 5: Little behind or it's a little bit beautiful, throw a

2929
02:23:34,680 --> 02:23:35,520
Speaker 5: little overthrow.

2930
02:23:36,080 --> 02:23:36,520
Speaker 1: What happens?

2931
02:23:36,640 --> 02:23:38,920
Speaker 4: You see that The contrast with Jalen Hurns and A J. Brown,

2932
02:23:38,920 --> 02:23:41,640
Speaker 4: though it says, you know, when under pressure on the move,

2933
02:23:41,800 --> 02:23:43,520
Speaker 4: gott to drop it right in there. I mean, those

2934
02:23:43,560 --> 02:23:46,360
Speaker 4: guys have a special connection. And you know, I think

2935
02:23:46,600 --> 02:23:48,720
Speaker 4: Pop Dougles seems like an effected piece in the middle

2936
02:23:48,720 --> 02:23:49,199
Speaker 4: of the field.

2937
02:23:49,280 --> 02:23:51,240
Speaker 1: But there just isn't a.

2938
02:23:51,200 --> 02:23:53,840
Speaker 4: Special connection on the Patriots offense right now that you know,

2939
02:23:53,879 --> 02:23:55,320
Speaker 4: when I got to have it moment with it on

2940
02:23:55,400 --> 02:23:55,920
Speaker 4: the line that.

2941
02:23:56,959 --> 02:24:00,600
Speaker 5: So I think, just you know, early, just looking at

2942
02:24:00,680 --> 02:24:03,160
Speaker 5: we're gonna get some snabs for Zappi here in the

2943
02:24:03,240 --> 02:24:06,959
Speaker 5: last two minutes. It would seem to me that unless

2944
02:24:07,000 --> 02:24:09,360
Speaker 5: to Mario Douglas can make a lot of guys miss

2945
02:24:10,120 --> 02:24:13,960
Speaker 5: after those catches another sack, I just don't see any

2946
02:24:14,320 --> 02:24:18,720
Speaker 5: any ability to strink together plays offensively. Now Douglas gets

2947
02:24:18,760 --> 02:24:21,640
Speaker 5: open like like no one's business on those little shallow

2948
02:24:21,720 --> 02:24:25,040
Speaker 5: crosses and the quick slants and all that, he's almost uncoverable.

2949
02:24:25,160 --> 02:24:27,800
Speaker 5: But do they result in five yard games or are

2950
02:24:27,800 --> 02:24:30,240
Speaker 5: they resulting in twelve yard games? It's a big difference.

2951
02:24:30,240 --> 02:24:32,440
Speaker 7: And how many times is he taking body blows because

2952
02:24:32,440 --> 02:24:34,080
Speaker 7: he's over the middle of the field wreck it's a

2953
02:24:34,120 --> 02:24:36,440
Speaker 7: hard way to live. And can he stay healthy off those?

2954
02:24:36,720 --> 02:24:39,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's And if you've got to think about with

2955
02:24:39,280 --> 02:24:42,280
Speaker 5: the run game, the run game isn't you know, above

2956
02:24:42,800 --> 02:24:45,600
Speaker 5: average at least, like what's just gonna stop piece from

2957
02:24:45,640 --> 02:24:47,600
Speaker 5: me like we're just gonna flood the middle of the field.

2958
02:24:48,160 --> 02:24:52,320
Speaker 5: I think you're you're well worn phrase. I think is

2959
02:24:52,360 --> 02:24:56,480
Speaker 5: going to be continuing to be relevant to defend. They

2960
02:24:56,520 --> 02:24:57,520
Speaker 5: are easy to defend.

2961
02:24:57,800 --> 02:25:00,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, go ahead, try to beat us deep with

2962
02:25:00,240 --> 02:25:01,680
Speaker 1: techwonkord you have.

2963
02:25:03,640 --> 02:25:06,040
Speaker 7: I definitely the run game is such a big part

2964
02:25:06,080 --> 02:25:08,080
Speaker 7: of it because if they can at least move the

2965
02:25:08,120 --> 02:25:10,160
Speaker 7: ball a little bit on the ground and stay ahead

2966
02:25:10,160 --> 02:25:12,360
Speaker 7: of the chains, and then you can have play action

2967
02:25:12,480 --> 02:25:16,120
Speaker 7: and different things that the scheme kind of does a

2968
02:25:16,160 --> 02:25:18,040
Speaker 7: lot of the heavy lifting to get guys open and

2969
02:25:18,320 --> 02:25:22,400
Speaker 7: create advantageous downfield separation and things like that, then maybe

2970
02:25:22,480 --> 02:25:26,160
Speaker 7: they can generate some consistent offense that way. But we

2971
02:25:26,280 --> 02:25:28,360
Speaker 7: just haven't seen that. We haven't seen the run game

2972
02:25:28,440 --> 02:25:31,160
Speaker 7: married to the play action and having it all buttoned

2973
02:25:31,240 --> 02:25:34,040
Speaker 7: up in some perfect way yet in practice. But like,

2974
02:25:34,120 --> 02:25:36,280
Speaker 7: maybe they get there over the next three weeks. Like

2975
02:25:36,360 --> 02:25:38,920
Speaker 7: I'm not going to rule it out. It just seems

2976
02:25:39,000 --> 02:25:42,120
Speaker 7: like that's their hope, is that first and second down

2977
02:25:42,200 --> 02:25:45,560
Speaker 7: we're gonna be run second and four. Okay, Now we

2978
02:25:45,640 --> 02:25:47,840
Speaker 7: can dial it up, you know differently with play action

2979
02:25:48,080 --> 02:25:50,640
Speaker 7: things like that. That's how you get guys open that

2980
02:25:50,760 --> 02:25:54,800
Speaker 7: aren't aj Brown right is' you're going into a single

2981
02:25:54,879 --> 02:25:58,080
Speaker 7: high coverage or misdirection play action off the boot leg.

2982
02:25:58,480 --> 02:26:00,280
Speaker 7: You know, now all of a sudden, you're winning foot

2983
02:26:00,360 --> 02:26:02,760
Speaker 7: race across the middle of the field. That that those

2984
02:26:02,800 --> 02:26:04,879
Speaker 7: are the little things that you can do. But if

2985
02:26:04,920 --> 02:26:07,359
Speaker 7: that's not what they're able to do with the sequencing

2986
02:26:07,440 --> 02:26:09,640
Speaker 7: of the play is at the run game, staying ahead

2987
02:26:09,640 --> 02:26:11,560
Speaker 7: of the chains, and then they're gonna get behind. And

2988
02:26:11,640 --> 02:26:14,080
Speaker 7: then to Paul's point, it's first and ten is going

2989
02:26:14,120 --> 02:26:15,800
Speaker 7: to become second and eight, and then second and eight

2990
02:26:15,840 --> 02:26:17,560
Speaker 7: it's gonna become third and eight, and then it's you know,

2991
02:26:17,680 --> 02:26:19,960
Speaker 7: off the field, and that those are where you worry

2992
02:26:20,000 --> 02:26:21,000
Speaker 7: about this team right now.

2993
02:26:21,080 --> 02:26:22,480
Speaker 4: I just, I mean, I don't know if we're going

2994
02:26:22,520 --> 02:26:25,080
Speaker 4: to get to watch any more practices or if we'll

2995
02:26:25,120 --> 02:26:27,600
Speaker 4: go into you know, media lockdown just for stretching or whatever.

2996
02:26:27,720 --> 02:26:29,480
Speaker 4: But I mean, I just I kind of feel like

2997
02:26:29,520 --> 02:26:31,280
Speaker 4: I'm in the same place that I've been the last

2998
02:26:31,320 --> 02:26:33,240
Speaker 4: two years, which you know, I don't know if it

2999
02:26:33,480 --> 02:26:35,280
Speaker 4: that there has been maybe a tiny bit more of

3000
02:26:35,640 --> 02:26:39,360
Speaker 4: promise here in Spurts, but overall it's just you kind

3001
02:26:39,400 --> 02:26:40,720
Speaker 4: of just hold your breath and we're going into the

3002
02:26:40,760 --> 02:26:43,720
Speaker 4: regular season and hopefully once they're actually scheming a game

3003
02:26:43,760 --> 02:26:45,240
Speaker 4: plan and like it'll all come together.

3004
02:26:45,320 --> 02:26:47,840
Speaker 5: But that's a good I don't know, the game playing

3005
02:26:47,920 --> 02:26:51,720
Speaker 5: part is a good point, Like you know, what kind

3006
02:26:51,760 --> 02:26:53,480
Speaker 5: of ability. Do they have to look at the other

3007
02:26:53,560 --> 02:26:58,240
Speaker 5: team's UH defense and figure out a scheme that is

3008
02:26:58,360 --> 02:27:01,240
Speaker 5: best for that week. Can they consistently do that well?

3009
02:27:01,920 --> 02:27:03,400
Speaker 5: Because we know they're going to continue to be a

3010
02:27:03,440 --> 02:27:06,200
Speaker 5: game playing team. Mayo said that a million times, So

3011
02:27:07,120 --> 02:27:11,360
Speaker 5: can they Can they win during the week because I

3012
02:27:11,400 --> 02:27:14,760
Speaker 5: don't think they're necessarily going to win matchups and you know,

3013
02:27:14,840 --> 02:27:16,720
Speaker 5: one on one physical matchups.

3014
02:27:17,320 --> 02:27:19,760
Speaker 1: Two years and what was ultimately the answer, No, not

3015
02:27:19,959 --> 02:27:20,520
Speaker 1: often enough.

3016
02:27:20,920 --> 02:27:24,000
Speaker 5: You know, Like I think back, you know, like the

3017
02:27:24,120 --> 02:27:26,320
Speaker 5: Jets game last year, the first Jets game that they won,

3018
02:27:26,520 --> 02:27:28,280
Speaker 5: you know, like they scheme it up and they get

3019
02:27:29,240 --> 02:27:33,000
Speaker 5: Farrell Brown wide open, you know for a long touchdown.

3020
02:27:33,120 --> 02:27:35,480
Speaker 5: You know, like, but you just didn't get enough of that.

3021
02:27:36,000 --> 02:27:38,240
Speaker 5: You know, it's the one that everybody always brings up

3022
02:27:38,240 --> 02:27:41,120
Speaker 5: as an example. Can you do that consistently enough to

3023
02:27:41,240 --> 02:27:43,720
Speaker 5: keep you competitive in games and find a way to

3024
02:27:43,760 --> 02:27:45,600
Speaker 5: win some games? And I think that's going to be

3025
02:27:45,640 --> 02:27:48,080
Speaker 5: a tough task on the you know, on the coaching

3026
02:27:48,160 --> 02:27:49,880
Speaker 5: staff that the onus is going to be on Alex

3027
02:27:49,959 --> 02:27:53,080
Speaker 5: man Pelt and in his offensive coaches to figure out

3028
02:27:53,080 --> 02:27:57,200
Speaker 5: ways because I think Evan said it perfectly, like that's

3029
02:27:57,240 --> 02:27:59,040
Speaker 5: how you have to get guys open who aren't a j.

3030
02:27:59,160 --> 02:28:03,680
Speaker 1: Brown. So just a reminder, we're gonna have Tamara Brown

3031
02:28:03,800 --> 02:28:07,760
Speaker 1: with Pop Douglas after practice down on the field, so

3032
02:28:07,959 --> 02:28:08,760
Speaker 1: that'll be coming up.

3033
02:28:09,320 --> 02:28:13,600
Speaker 5: Definitely looks like it's rapid, Yeah soon. Yeah, Patriots offense

3034
02:28:13,760 --> 02:28:16,520
Speaker 5: is done for the day. They just blew a horn.

3035
02:28:16,560 --> 02:28:18,160
Speaker 5: I think that's gonna put an end to the day.

3036
02:28:18,560 --> 02:28:21,640
Speaker 5: They had like four stringers out there on the other field,

3037
02:28:22,720 --> 02:28:24,920
Speaker 5: but I think that might just about do it. Here.

3038
02:28:25,160 --> 02:28:29,680
Speaker 1: Teams of both teams have come together son of saying

3039
02:28:29,800 --> 02:28:30,720
Speaker 1: thank you to each other.

3040
02:28:31,040 --> 02:28:34,720
Speaker 5: Not ovally chippy, pushing a little pushing shoven once in

3041
02:28:34,760 --> 02:28:35,960
Speaker 5: a while, but not overly chippy.

3042
02:28:36,040 --> 02:28:38,640
Speaker 1: I thought, not like what's happened in other practices around

3043
02:28:38,680 --> 02:28:39,039
Speaker 1: the league.

3044
02:28:40,560 --> 02:28:41,279
Speaker 5: Elite neighbors.

3045
02:28:42,040 --> 02:28:46,119
Speaker 1: Yeah you got got a little shot in running back

3046
02:28:46,200 --> 02:28:48,560
Speaker 1: little Steff Armand's face mask.

3047
02:28:48,600 --> 02:28:49,879
Speaker 5: I will punch.

3048
02:28:51,879 --> 02:28:54,520
Speaker 1: Both teams bringing it in.

3049
02:28:56,280 --> 02:28:58,240
Speaker 5: A little surprise. They didn't do any field goal work.

3050
02:28:59,120 --> 02:29:01,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, do that on your own time.

3051
02:29:01,360 --> 02:29:03,840
Speaker 5: Oh, I agree. I didn't say I'm upset about it.

3052
02:29:03,920 --> 02:29:05,000
Speaker 5: I'm just a little surprised.

3053
02:29:06,120 --> 02:29:08,320
Speaker 7: Fred, And I know you said this earlier, and I

3054
02:29:08,360 --> 02:29:11,360
Speaker 7: think it's a fair statement because we we were pretty

3055
02:29:11,400 --> 02:29:16,680
Speaker 7: critical of what we saw Offensively, it is very apparent

3056
02:29:16,800 --> 02:29:19,920
Speaker 7: that one team here has has very high aspirations, another

3057
02:29:20,000 --> 02:29:22,280
Speaker 7: team is in a rebuild. And if you thought that

3058
02:29:22,320 --> 02:29:23,640
Speaker 7: we were going to come out here today and the

3059
02:29:23,680 --> 02:29:26,000
Speaker 7: Patriots were going to be lighting up the Eagles defense,

3060
02:29:27,120 --> 02:29:28,920
Speaker 7: you were lying to yourself.

3061
02:29:28,600 --> 02:29:29,640
Speaker 1: For being naive like this.

3062
02:29:30,400 --> 02:29:33,000
Speaker 7: This was very clearly a day where one team could

3063
02:29:33,080 --> 02:29:35,000
Speaker 7: potentially win a Super Bowl this year and the other

3064
02:29:35,080 --> 02:29:38,000
Speaker 7: team is still trying to figure itself out. And that

3065
02:29:38,200 --> 02:29:39,720
Speaker 7: that's what we saw. That's how it played out. There

3066
02:29:39,720 --> 02:29:40,800
Speaker 7: a few plays kind.

3067
02:29:40,720 --> 02:29:43,720
Speaker 1: Of like when Northeastern plays the Red Sox and exhibition.

3068
02:29:43,920 --> 02:29:45,240
Speaker 1: I don't think that bad.

3069
02:29:46,760 --> 02:29:49,240
Speaker 5: Scrappy Huskies usually lose that game, like three to one.

3070
02:29:49,920 --> 02:29:51,640
Speaker 7: But there was a few plays here or there that

3071
02:29:51,720 --> 02:29:54,600
Speaker 7: popped off for the Patriots offense, you know, one Hooper

3072
02:29:54,720 --> 02:29:58,080
Speaker 7: wheel rowed and Pop Douglas plays here and there. But

3073
02:29:58,200 --> 02:30:00,800
Speaker 7: the consistency to be able to drive the ball just

3074
02:30:01,400 --> 02:30:03,520
Speaker 7: it just wasn't there because of all the issues that

3075
02:30:03,600 --> 02:30:07,440
Speaker 7: the Eagles were causing. So that's what happened. So it's

3076
02:30:07,520 --> 02:30:09,160
Speaker 7: not like it was a complete train wreck. It just

3077
02:30:09,240 --> 02:30:11,640
Speaker 7: that's what happens when you're you're a good team versus

3078
02:30:11,720 --> 02:30:13,920
Speaker 7: a team that was picking third overall last year.

3079
02:30:14,400 --> 02:30:16,080
Speaker 4: How would you compare this up to what you saw

3080
02:30:16,160 --> 02:30:18,240
Speaker 4: in Green Bay from the Patriots offense last year and

3081
02:30:18,320 --> 02:30:19,080
Speaker 4: joint practices?

3082
02:30:19,280 --> 02:30:21,480
Speaker 7: You know, I think last year in Green Bay I

3083
02:30:21,560 --> 02:30:24,360
Speaker 7: probably didn't give enough credence to the fact that there

3084
02:30:24,480 --> 02:30:26,920
Speaker 7: was probably more pressure on the quarterback than maybe what

3085
02:30:27,080 --> 02:30:30,760
Speaker 7: you were realizing live. I thought there, I thought the

3086
02:30:30,840 --> 02:30:33,560
Speaker 7: Patriots offense looked better last year in Green Bay than

3087
02:30:33,640 --> 02:30:37,440
Speaker 7: this today, to be to be fair to what happened,

3088
02:30:37,520 --> 02:30:41,480
Speaker 7: but I didn't think that it was worlds better. I

3089
02:30:41,520 --> 02:30:43,640
Speaker 7: think it was the same where it was like these

3090
02:30:43,760 --> 02:30:46,920
Speaker 7: isolated you know, I always remember I can still see

3091
02:30:46,920 --> 02:30:49,879
Speaker 7: the Devonte Parker catch, you know, in the end zone

3092
02:30:50,280 --> 02:30:52,680
Speaker 7: towards the end of the first day of practice there

3093
02:30:52,840 --> 02:30:57,040
Speaker 7: in Green Bay, and like that, those plays in isolated

3094
02:30:57,120 --> 02:31:00,520
Speaker 7: flashes happened here today to a little bit. So I

3095
02:31:00,760 --> 02:31:04,480
Speaker 7: would say it's same ballpark. But last year was I

3096
02:31:04,560 --> 02:31:05,440
Speaker 7: thought a little bit better.

3097
02:31:08,080 --> 02:31:11,039
Speaker 1: Well, I mean makes sense, this is an offense that's

3098
02:31:11,080 --> 02:31:14,440
Speaker 1: building its way from the ground up. Yeah.

3099
02:31:15,120 --> 02:31:18,879
Speaker 7: The biggest concerns to me on the offensive line still

3100
02:31:19,560 --> 02:31:23,760
Speaker 7: bull tackle spots seem like major concerns. Chukes is settled

3101
02:31:23,800 --> 02:31:25,920
Speaker 7: down a little bit now that he's back at right tackle,

3102
02:31:26,000 --> 02:31:28,720
Speaker 7: but he's not a he's not an impact right tackle.

3103
02:31:28,760 --> 02:31:31,160
Speaker 7: Like you're just hoping that he's gonna tread water at

3104
02:31:31,200 --> 02:31:34,280
Speaker 7: that spot on the right side. And then if City

3105
02:31:34,400 --> 02:31:36,720
Speaker 7: So is gonna take us to any sort of step

3106
02:31:36,800 --> 02:31:39,279
Speaker 7: back and that interior is not going to be rock solid.

3107
02:31:39,920 --> 02:31:43,040
Speaker 7: Now you're dealing with two and a half to three

3108
02:31:43,080 --> 02:31:45,920
Speaker 7: deficiencies on the offensive line. I was hoping that we

3109
02:31:46,040 --> 02:31:47,640
Speaker 7: were just going to be able to say that City

3110
02:31:47,760 --> 02:31:51,520
Speaker 7: So was just an entrench starter, don't worry about him.

3111
02:31:51,879 --> 02:31:53,880
Speaker 5: But I mean, like, we get those three guys on

3112
02:31:53,920 --> 02:31:56,039
Speaker 5: the inside, we feel really good about them, and we're

3113
02:31:56,040 --> 02:31:58,040
Speaker 5: gonna go with the Tom Brady theory that that's really

3114
02:31:58,080 --> 02:32:00,840
Speaker 5: the most important, right. I can't have that your pressure. Yeah,

3115
02:32:01,040 --> 02:32:03,640
Speaker 5: we saw some material pressure today. Yeah, and it's a

3116
02:32:03,720 --> 02:32:07,800
Speaker 5: really good interior defensive line. But City in the game

3117
02:32:07,879 --> 02:32:09,920
Speaker 5: last week, I thought struggled a little bit, and then

3118
02:32:09,959 --> 02:32:11,720
Speaker 5: I thought he struggled a little bit out here today.

3119
02:32:11,840 --> 02:32:16,000
Speaker 5: So he's one player that maybe at some point they

3120
02:32:16,040 --> 02:32:18,280
Speaker 5: give Laden Robinson a look. While I thought was decent

3121
02:32:18,320 --> 02:32:22,400
Speaker 5: on Thursday night with you, Yeah, maybe maybe he's someone

3122
02:32:22,480 --> 02:32:25,840
Speaker 5: that starts pushing for some playing time there at left guard,

3123
02:32:26,000 --> 02:32:28,880
Speaker 5: but I I just was hoping for a little bit

3124
02:32:28,920 --> 02:32:31,200
Speaker 5: more there because then all right, so yes, it's a

3125
02:32:31,320 --> 02:32:33,640
Speaker 5: major major hole to say left tackle is an issue

3126
02:32:34,240 --> 02:32:36,760
Speaker 5: for this team, but at least it's just one spot

3127
02:32:37,240 --> 02:32:40,040
Speaker 5: that's truly gonna be a weak point, and and you

3128
02:32:40,320 --> 02:32:42,880
Speaker 5: you can roll the pocket out the other way. You

3129
02:32:42,959 --> 02:32:46,720
Speaker 5: can do different things to try to slide the protection ship,

3130
02:32:46,800 --> 02:32:49,560
Speaker 5: the tight ends like whatever on the left side to

3131
02:32:49,640 --> 02:32:51,920
Speaker 5: help Outvederian Low. It's it's hard to do when there's

3132
02:32:52,440 --> 02:32:54,920
Speaker 5: there's spots all over the place that are that are leaking.

3133
02:32:54,959 --> 02:32:56,320
Speaker 4: I think it was hard for me was just watching

3134
02:32:56,360 --> 02:32:58,240
Speaker 4: that preseason game and then we came back out here

3135
02:32:58,800 --> 02:33:01,320
Speaker 4: this weekend and it was this grow and you know,

3136
02:33:01,400 --> 02:33:03,200
Speaker 4: I guess you can at least fool yourself when they're

3137
02:33:03,240 --> 02:33:05,480
Speaker 4: kind of rotating guys in those early days of camp

3138
02:33:05,520 --> 02:33:07,760
Speaker 4: where I was kind of getting a look at everybody.

3139
02:33:07,800 --> 02:33:11,800
Speaker 4: But I guess it's hard for me watching some of

3140
02:33:11,879 --> 02:33:13,960
Speaker 4: that with Viderian lo close that they came back out

3141
02:33:14,040 --> 02:33:16,119
Speaker 4: and they're like, yeah, no, we still we still got.

3142
02:33:16,120 --> 02:33:16,720
Speaker 1: To roll with him.

3143
02:33:17,160 --> 02:33:20,640
Speaker 5: The interviews are starting down there, can you see is

3144
02:33:20,680 --> 02:33:23,360
Speaker 5: that is that Stevenson? Maybe I see Austin Hooper over

3145
02:33:23,440 --> 02:33:29,400
Speaker 5: here Stevenson yet, so we are supposed to hear from

3146
02:33:29,480 --> 02:33:33,200
Speaker 5: Drake May today. At least that was the pre practice plan,

3147
02:33:33,400 --> 02:33:35,440
Speaker 5: right if they let us know.

3148
02:33:35,879 --> 02:33:38,400
Speaker 1: You got to Kobe yesterday and I'm in a head

3149
02:33:38,480 --> 02:33:39,760
Speaker 1: down there Drake today.

3150
02:33:40,040 --> 02:33:44,280
Speaker 5: All right, I'll hang up here with Freddy until we

3151
02:33:44,360 --> 02:33:47,400
Speaker 5: get to Mario Douglas and then I'll let you guys

3152
02:33:47,480 --> 02:33:49,879
Speaker 5: do the heavy lifting with with.

3153
02:33:50,000 --> 02:33:55,760
Speaker 1: Pop Pop Pop Pop goes the Weasel. Yeah, I'm trying

3154
02:33:55,800 --> 02:34:01,600
Speaker 1: to get my eyes on number three pop O. There

3155
02:34:01,640 --> 02:34:04,680
Speaker 1: he is. He's kind of hanging around the sideline, not

3156
02:34:04,840 --> 02:34:09,800
Speaker 1: any hurry, both teams are kind of I don't see him. Yeah,

3157
02:34:09,879 --> 02:34:15,880
Speaker 1: he's talking to somebody from the Eagle staff. Oh no,

3158
02:34:16,040 --> 02:34:18,000
Speaker 1: he's by himself, doing nothing.

3159
02:34:20,160 --> 02:34:23,440
Speaker 4: Just thinking about his life, Yeah, about his choices. How

3160
02:34:23,480 --> 02:34:25,880
Speaker 4: about getting that interview out of the way real quick.

3161
02:34:26,040 --> 02:34:28,760
Speaker 5: Sure, that's uh mind, I can't find it.

3162
02:34:29,360 --> 02:34:34,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's on the sideline. Oh, I see him shaking hand. Yeah,

3163
02:34:34,440 --> 02:34:36,800
Speaker 1: I see him. I see him. I see him.

3164
02:34:36,800 --> 02:34:37,640
Speaker 5: I got eyes on him.

3165
02:34:37,800 --> 02:34:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm on it. Yeah.

3166
02:34:40,280 --> 02:34:43,800
Speaker 5: I thought like what you guys said was kind of right,

3167
02:34:43,920 --> 02:34:47,160
Speaker 5: Like I kind of expected it. To be a challenging day.

3168
02:34:49,000 --> 02:34:50,840
Speaker 5: I would choose to look at the positive. I thought

3169
02:34:50,840 --> 02:34:54,039
Speaker 5: the physicality on defense was was there Because I'm one,

3170
02:34:54,800 --> 02:34:57,640
Speaker 5: unlike most, I'm a little worried about the defense. I

3171
02:34:57,879 --> 02:34:59,200
Speaker 5: don't think it was as good as a lot of

3172
02:34:59,240 --> 02:35:02,160
Speaker 5: people think it was last year. And I and I'm

3173
02:35:02,200 --> 02:35:05,600
Speaker 5: concerned about the loss of brain power. Yeah, with with

3174
02:35:05,720 --> 02:35:08,879
Speaker 5: Bill and Steve Belichick and you know, obviously far more.

3175
02:35:10,160 --> 02:35:13,680
Speaker 5: But I thought I thought the front seven acquitted itself

3176
02:35:13,720 --> 02:35:14,440
Speaker 5: pretty well today.

3177
02:35:14,600 --> 02:35:15,080
Speaker 1: I agree.

3178
02:35:15,160 --> 02:35:16,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I just think it's what you have to

3179
02:35:16,640 --> 02:35:19,920
Speaker 4: hold on to right now, because, let's face it, the offense,

3180
02:35:20,000 --> 02:35:22,360
Speaker 4: like we said, it's just it's their plays here and there,

3181
02:35:22,440 --> 02:35:24,680
Speaker 4: but you know, not a lot of consistency, not a

3182
02:35:24,720 --> 02:35:27,280
Speaker 4: lot of like all right, they're starting to find kind

3183
02:35:27,320 --> 02:35:28,800
Speaker 4: of their plays and their identity and.

3184
02:35:28,800 --> 02:35:31,760
Speaker 5: Who they are hard to know. But the defense, you

3185
02:35:31,840 --> 02:35:33,880
Speaker 5: just have to convince yourself because that's where the talent is.

3186
02:35:34,800 --> 02:35:37,120
Speaker 5: But your point, Paul, about the brain drain, and you know, no,

3187
02:35:37,320 --> 02:35:39,560
Speaker 5: no longer Bill Belichick coming up with those game plans.

3188
02:35:40,280 --> 02:35:42,480
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, I just I with the point.

3189
02:35:42,480 --> 02:35:44,560
Speaker 4: I'm att after watching the offense kind of look again

3190
02:35:44,680 --> 02:35:46,800
Speaker 4: like they they've kind of looked against the Patriots defense.

3191
02:35:46,840 --> 02:35:49,640
Speaker 4: It's you've really got to hope that that this defense

3192
02:35:49,800 --> 02:35:52,320
Speaker 4: is his top notch and is you know, going to

3193
02:35:52,360 --> 02:35:54,440
Speaker 4: be able to keep these games close? Because right now,

3194
02:35:54,560 --> 02:35:57,560
Speaker 4: the the offensive line and just the ability of the

3195
02:35:57,600 --> 02:36:01,120
Speaker 4: offense to get going and establish rhythm and you know,

3196
02:36:01,200 --> 02:36:03,600
Speaker 4: put the defense on their heels. Like I just you

3197
02:36:03,640 --> 02:36:05,360
Speaker 4: haven't really seen any of those kind of moments. And

3198
02:36:05,560 --> 02:36:08,560
Speaker 4: then granted they don't do situational stuff to the extreme

3199
02:36:08,640 --> 02:36:09,560
Speaker 4: that Belichick did.

3200
02:36:10,879 --> 02:36:15,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would have some concern just in general a

3201
02:36:15,280 --> 02:36:18,400
Speaker 5: corner to pass. Yeah, the passing game, Like I thought

3202
02:36:18,440 --> 02:36:21,600
Speaker 5: most of the passes the Eagles through today were complete. Now,

3203
02:36:21,760 --> 02:36:23,720
Speaker 5: I thought the Patriots got a good amount of pressure

3204
02:36:24,240 --> 02:36:27,320
Speaker 5: which prevented them from really really tearing it up, you

3205
02:36:27,360 --> 02:36:29,400
Speaker 5: know what I mean. I think, you know, they would

3206
02:36:29,440 --> 02:36:31,720
Speaker 5: get a completion of Smith, a completion of Brown, and

3207
02:36:31,800 --> 02:36:34,200
Speaker 5: then they get some pressure on Hurts and make them

3208
02:36:34,360 --> 02:36:37,240
Speaker 5: pull the ball down and run around, which sort of

3209
02:36:37,760 --> 02:36:40,760
Speaker 5: sort of stem the tide. I think they're gonna be

3210
02:36:40,879 --> 02:36:44,360
Speaker 5: hard pressed to prevent completions on a regular basis, so

3211
02:36:44,400 --> 02:36:47,960
Speaker 5: they better get some pressure and with no bar more. Yep,

3212
02:36:48,640 --> 02:36:50,760
Speaker 5: you know, if you lose Jude on. You know, if

3213
02:36:50,800 --> 02:36:52,959
Speaker 5: you end up trading him or whatever, he doesn't want

3214
02:36:53,000 --> 02:36:56,080
Speaker 5: to play for whatever reason. I do wonder where you

3215
02:36:56,160 --> 02:36:57,160
Speaker 5: get that pressure from.

3216
02:36:57,360 --> 02:36:59,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean you saw a little of it

3217
02:36:59,280 --> 02:37:01,560
Speaker 4: of scheming it up today with you know, Pepper's coming

3218
02:37:01,560 --> 02:37:03,320
Speaker 4: off the edge, Dug or coming off the edge here

3219
02:37:03,360 --> 02:37:04,760
Speaker 4: and there. I mean, they're always going to play with

3220
02:37:04,800 --> 02:37:07,400
Speaker 4: those safeties. But tough way to live it is. It's

3221
02:37:07,640 --> 02:37:09,360
Speaker 4: you know, to have to rely on scheme.

3222
02:37:09,520 --> 02:37:11,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, it right, tough way right right.

3223
02:37:11,560 --> 02:37:13,760
Speaker 4: And that's you know for so long that was you

3224
02:37:13,800 --> 02:37:15,879
Speaker 4: know when the Patriots defense under Belichick kind of had

3225
02:37:15,920 --> 02:37:19,160
Speaker 4: a lull and you know, nine, ten eleven still went

3226
02:37:19,200 --> 02:37:21,120
Speaker 4: to the super Bowl, but you know those defenses were

3227
02:37:21,120 --> 02:37:24,000
Speaker 4: pretty rough, Yeah, because you didn't have the you know,

3228
02:37:24,760 --> 02:37:27,400
Speaker 4: the front you need. You needed the high towers, You

3229
02:37:27,440 --> 02:37:29,440
Speaker 4: needed the Chandler Joneses of the world. You know, you

3230
02:37:29,520 --> 02:37:32,440
Speaker 4: need those guys who who can win one on one matchups.

3231
02:37:32,440 --> 02:37:33,800
Speaker 4: And I mean it's the same thing on the offensive

3232
02:37:33,840 --> 02:37:36,280
Speaker 4: side of the ball. You see offensive guys who can

3233
02:37:36,320 --> 02:37:39,360
Speaker 4: win one on one matchups. Doesn't take a lot of them.

3234
02:37:39,360 --> 02:37:40,840
Speaker 5: You got two of them I think over there on

3235
02:37:40,879 --> 02:37:43,680
Speaker 5: the Eagles, But man, it makes it a lot easier

3236
02:37:43,720 --> 02:37:47,440
Speaker 5: on your quarterback. Yeah, I mean I would I agree

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Speaker 5: with you that, like in terms of wide receivers, but

3238
02:37:49,800 --> 02:37:52,120
Speaker 5: I think Goddard is a playmaking tight end, and I

3239
02:37:52,200 --> 02:37:54,640
Speaker 5: think say, Kuon Barkley is going to give that offense

3240
02:37:55,800 --> 02:37:58,000
Speaker 5: you know, another dimension you saw it like and I

3241
02:37:58,480 --> 02:38:02,160
Speaker 5: understand what Evan's talking about, scheme like that's that's not

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02:38:02,800 --> 02:38:04,440
Speaker 5: I don't care how much pressure you get. That's a

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02:38:04,480 --> 02:38:07,560
Speaker 5: touchdown because there's no way Matthew Judon is going to

3244
02:38:07,600 --> 02:38:10,039
Speaker 5: stay with a guy like say in space.

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02:38:09,959 --> 02:38:12,680
Speaker 4: No right, And that's you know, again, good job by

3246
02:38:12,760 --> 02:38:15,440
Speaker 4: Hurts putting it out there, seeing it nowhere to go

3247
02:38:15,560 --> 02:38:15,720
Speaker 4: with it.

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02:38:18,160 --> 02:38:19,560
Speaker 1: But I just you know the bottom line.

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02:38:19,600 --> 02:38:21,840
Speaker 4: And I know this is gonna sound rich coming from

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02:38:21,879 --> 02:38:24,039
Speaker 4: me as the guy who two weeks ago is like I'm.

3251
02:38:23,879 --> 02:38:25,840
Speaker 1: Just not gonna worry about the offensive line. It's like,

3252
02:38:26,879 --> 02:38:27,800
Speaker 1: how do we do this again?

3253
02:38:27,959 --> 02:38:32,520
Speaker 4: Like another season where it's just like, yeah, they don't have,

3254
02:38:32,680 --> 02:38:34,760
Speaker 4: they don't have, And I mean, watching Lane Johnson walk

3255
02:38:34,800 --> 02:38:36,119
Speaker 4: out here, I think it's all.

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02:38:36,080 --> 02:38:38,400
Speaker 5: Of it though, Like you're going to give up pressure,

3257
02:38:38,480 --> 02:38:40,600
Speaker 5: but if you have guys that can get open, you

3258
02:38:40,720 --> 02:38:43,880
Speaker 5: can overcome him. The Eagles offensive line is considered to

3259
02:38:43,920 --> 02:38:45,920
Speaker 5: be very good. I thought the Patriots had pressure on

3260
02:38:46,080 --> 02:38:49,400
Speaker 5: Hurts today, Sure, but they made more completions because they

3261
02:38:49,480 --> 02:38:51,400
Speaker 5: have guys like Brown and Smith that are going to

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02:38:51,480 --> 02:38:51,840
Speaker 5: get open.

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02:38:52,040 --> 02:38:56,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Hurting smart He's seen it before, so yeah,

3264
02:38:56,600 --> 02:38:58,440
Speaker 1: you know right, that's what's hard with me.

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02:38:58,600 --> 02:39:00,480
Speaker 4: He doesn't know what he's doing, right, And I mean,

3266
02:39:01,120 --> 02:39:02,400
Speaker 4: you know, it's just a place that are getting that

3267
02:39:02,440 --> 02:39:03,680
Speaker 4: they're not even having a chance.

3268
02:39:03,560 --> 02:39:05,160
Speaker 1: On in the second unite.

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Speaker 4: At what point do you got to say, look, let's

3270
02:39:09,320 --> 02:39:10,840
Speaker 4: we just let's see what Drake looks like when he

3271
02:39:10,879 --> 02:39:12,280
Speaker 4: actually has a pocket for you.

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02:39:12,320 --> 02:39:15,320
Speaker 5: Know, yeah, more than a second and a half. And

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02:39:15,440 --> 02:39:18,040
Speaker 5: I think that's the That's what I'm trying to keep

3274
02:39:18,080 --> 02:39:20,200
Speaker 5: in mind with these people because I know that's that's

3275
02:39:20,200 --> 02:39:21,920
Speaker 5: all anybody wants to talk about. And I get it,

3276
02:39:21,959 --> 02:39:24,000
Speaker 5: that's all I would want to hear about. If I

3277
02:39:24,160 --> 02:39:25,560
Speaker 5: wasn't here every day, I would want to know what

3278
02:39:25,640 --> 02:39:27,720
Speaker 5: people thought, How how did May look? That's all I

3279
02:39:27,760 --> 02:39:32,039
Speaker 5: would care about, And people ask me constantly, and it's

3280
02:39:32,120 --> 02:39:35,119
Speaker 5: just I feel like I'm not really telling them anything

3281
02:39:35,200 --> 02:39:39,560
Speaker 5: because it's so hard to evaluate. Like I know, we

3282
02:39:39,640 --> 02:39:41,959
Speaker 5: could come across with Patriots dot com. And we're trying

3283
02:39:42,000 --> 02:39:44,600
Speaker 5: to sort of stress the positive. I get that, but

3284
02:39:45,240 --> 02:39:48,560
Speaker 5: how do you accurately evaluate that two minute drill when

3285
02:39:48,600 --> 02:39:50,960
Speaker 5: he gets four plays and he gets sacked three times?

3286
02:39:51,080 --> 02:39:55,520
Speaker 4: Right, yep, it's now you just you have to It's

3287
02:39:55,560 --> 02:39:57,360
Speaker 4: almost like the offense as a whole. It's the same

3288
02:39:57,400 --> 02:40:00,560
Speaker 4: thing for Drake May as an individual, where you've seen

3289
02:40:00,640 --> 02:40:02,960
Speaker 4: flashes here and there, you've seen nice throws here and there.

3290
02:40:03,040 --> 02:40:05,960
Speaker 4: You know, you've seen some of the stuff that you know,

3291
02:40:06,040 --> 02:40:08,240
Speaker 4: you know he's gonna need to be successful in the league.

3292
02:40:08,320 --> 02:40:11,359
Speaker 4: But like the offense, you just haven't you know, come together.

3293
02:40:11,200 --> 02:40:13,440
Speaker 1: For him holistically. And like, you know, if they're gonna

3294
02:40:13,440 --> 02:40:15,520
Speaker 1: be this heavy running game, how does that affect the

3295
02:40:15,600 --> 02:40:18,480
Speaker 1: passing game? Yeah? If they can actually establish some run,

3296
02:40:18,959 --> 02:40:21,680
Speaker 1: does that help? And right we we haven't seen any

3297
02:40:21,720 --> 02:40:23,959
Speaker 1: of that yet. It's it's just so hard to gauge

3298
02:40:24,000 --> 02:40:24,520
Speaker 1: at this point.

3299
02:40:24,680 --> 02:40:26,480
Speaker 5: Right And that's a good point too, Like we had,

3300
02:40:26,560 --> 02:40:30,280
Speaker 5: I thought the second series of team offense, they showed

3301
02:40:30,360 --> 02:40:34,040
Speaker 5: some signs of improved running the ball, and that could

3302
02:40:34,080 --> 02:40:36,200
Speaker 5: make all the difference if it's second and five or

3303
02:40:36,360 --> 02:40:39,400
Speaker 5: you know, or even better as opposed to so many

3304
02:40:39,440 --> 02:40:41,760
Speaker 5: second and Tens that they faced on the first on

3305
02:40:41,879 --> 02:40:44,640
Speaker 5: the first set, I see, yeah, some the Know it

3306
02:40:44,720 --> 02:40:47,120
Speaker 5: All is coming by love that love our friends at

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Speaker 1: Hi five.

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02:40:52,840 --> 02:40:55,080
Speaker 5: Oh no, I said, I said, it just just in

3310
02:40:55,200 --> 02:40:56,240
Speaker 5: time for you to come TC.

3311
02:40:56,480 --> 02:41:00,560
Speaker 1: I see Pop making his way to us. He's escorted

3312
02:41:00,640 --> 02:41:04,280
Speaker 1: by somebody from our PR staff. So looks like we're

3313
02:41:04,320 --> 02:41:07,200
Speaker 1: going to get close to Tamara Brown being able to

3314
02:41:07,280 --> 02:41:13,400
Speaker 1: interview Douglas. I think he had a decent day. Yeah.

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02:41:13,879 --> 02:41:16,200
Speaker 4: I mean I was more on the defense, but the

3316
02:41:16,280 --> 02:41:18,400
Speaker 4: few plays I caught, it looks like what Papa has

3317
02:41:18,480 --> 02:41:21,600
Speaker 4: been doing, and I mean it's you know, I guess

3318
02:41:22,000 --> 02:41:23,320
Speaker 4: the way in my mind I was thinking, man, I

3319
02:41:23,400 --> 02:41:25,199
Speaker 4: was really hoping this was year one of the rebuild,

3320
02:41:25,240 --> 02:41:26,200
Speaker 4: and I'm starting to feel more more.

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02:41:26,200 --> 02:41:29,160
Speaker 1: All right, let's give a way for Tamara Brown. She's

3322
02:41:29,240 --> 02:41:34,120
Speaker 1: down on the field with Pop Douglas. We ready to go,

3323
02:41:34,440 --> 02:41:49,680
Speaker 1: Ready you go, Fred, Okay tomorrow.

3324
02:41:49,760 --> 02:41:51,440
Speaker 8: It was seventy two hours ago when you were able

3325
02:41:51,480 --> 02:41:53,680
Speaker 8: to take off that red non contact jersey. How does

3326
02:41:53,680 --> 02:41:55,680
Speaker 8: it feel to be cleared and able to practice against

3327
02:41:55,680 --> 02:41:56,280
Speaker 8: the Eagles today?

3328
02:41:56,520 --> 02:41:58,320
Speaker 1: I feel great just to come out here.

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02:41:58,360 --> 02:42:01,200
Speaker 13: And play against a different team and get together with

3330
02:42:01,360 --> 02:42:03,640
Speaker 13: my brothers and you know, uh compete.

3331
02:42:04,760 --> 02:42:06,800
Speaker 8: It was Gerard Mayo who said, you have been having

3332
02:42:06,879 --> 02:42:09,160
Speaker 8: you back your quickness, your energy. It brings a different

3333
02:42:09,200 --> 02:42:11,000
Speaker 8: boost to this wide receiver room. How does it feel

3334
02:42:11,000 --> 02:42:11,280
Speaker 8: to hear.

3335
02:42:11,240 --> 02:42:13,800
Speaker 13: That that's a blessing? You know, when the head man

3336
02:42:13,879 --> 02:42:16,280
Speaker 13: you know praised me. I feel like I'm going in

3337
02:42:16,360 --> 02:42:16,959
Speaker 13: the right direction.

3338
02:42:17,400 --> 02:42:20,320
Speaker 8: How would you assess your practice today against the Philadelphia Eagles.

3339
02:42:20,560 --> 02:42:22,880
Speaker 13: I feel like I did smooth. I feel like I

3340
02:42:22,920 --> 02:42:26,360
Speaker 13: could always, you know, do better, got open. Uh, you

3341
02:42:26,440 --> 02:42:28,680
Speaker 13: know that was my job to do. And uh, I

3342
02:42:28,760 --> 02:42:31,880
Speaker 13: felt like we just needed well me, I need to come.

3343
02:42:32,120 --> 02:42:33,480
Speaker 13: I felt I could do more for sure.

3344
02:42:33,879 --> 02:42:35,560
Speaker 5: Have you seen the work that you put in during

3345
02:42:35,600 --> 02:42:37,039
Speaker 5: the off season payoff here today?

3346
02:42:37,280 --> 02:42:38,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? Most definitely.

3347
02:42:38,480 --> 02:42:40,720
Speaker 13: Most definitely felt like, uh what I did in the

3348
02:42:40,760 --> 02:42:44,280
Speaker 13: off season with the receivers and other the quarterbacks felt

3349
02:42:44,280 --> 02:42:44,440
Speaker 13: like it.

3350
02:42:44,600 --> 02:42:46,480
Speaker 1: U it helped with our timing.

3351
02:42:46,840 --> 02:42:49,680
Speaker 5: How would you define that timing with Jakobe Grisat Andrek Man.

3352
02:42:50,240 --> 02:42:50,920
Speaker 1: It's pretty good.

3353
02:42:51,160 --> 02:42:54,200
Speaker 13: I say, we've been putting the pieces together and uh,

3354
02:42:54,240 --> 02:42:56,800
Speaker 13: I say the plays that you know that's meant for

3355
02:42:56,879 --> 02:42:58,879
Speaker 13: me to get it been coming, the.

3356
02:42:58,920 --> 02:43:01,200
Speaker 8: Plays that a VP has for you guys, how do

3357
02:43:01,280 --> 02:43:03,720
Speaker 8: you how would you describe this Patriot's offense this season?

3358
02:43:04,000 --> 02:43:06,440
Speaker 13: I feel like, uh like I say, yes, there's gone.

3359
02:43:06,480 --> 02:43:08,280
Speaker 13: I feel like it's all gonna come together. You know,

3360
02:43:08,560 --> 02:43:10,680
Speaker 13: we ain't do too much out here today, but I

3361
02:43:10,760 --> 02:43:13,520
Speaker 13: feel like once we come game week one, we're gonna

3362
02:43:13,520 --> 02:43:14,520
Speaker 13: have all the pieces together.

3363
02:43:14,840 --> 02:43:16,119
Speaker 5: Thanks so much for your time to Mario.

3364
02:43:16,320 --> 02:43:16,600
Speaker 1: Thank you.

3365
02:43:16,959 --> 02:43:18,000
Speaker 5: Back to you guys upstairs.

3366
02:43:18,160 --> 02:43:21,600
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks Tamara. That will wrap it up for Patriots

3367
02:43:21,720 --> 02:43:25,280
Speaker 1: joint practice with the Philadelphia Eagles. This is the last

3368
02:43:25,440 --> 02:43:29,000
Speaker 1: public practice for the Patriots, so uh, as far as

3369
02:43:29,160 --> 02:43:32,480
Speaker 1: fans coming, this is it. But Patriots dot com and

3370
02:43:32,720 --> 02:43:35,360
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3371
02:43:35,400 --> 02:43:37,720
Speaker 1: be at practice, still giving you all the news, so

3372
02:43:37,840 --> 02:43:40,640
Speaker 1: stay tuned to Patriots dot Com and of course Patriot's

3373
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3374
02:43:44,640 --> 02:43:47,760
Speaker 1: come after every practice will still be delivering that. But

3375
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Speaker 1: for Paul Parello, Evan Lazarre, Mike or so Fred Kursch,

3376
02:43:51,560 --> 02:43:55,119
Speaker 1: Tamara Brown, that's gonna be it for this edition. Thanks

3377
02:43:55,160 --> 02:44:00,280
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