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Speaker 1: This one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, how's everybody doing on the Monday after Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl fifty eight? Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. Maybe

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Speaker 2: you're lamenting yet another super Bowl title for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you got nauseous watching the end of that thing

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Speaker 2: in overtime. Because I will say, Steve, I experienced this

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Speaker 2: in the people that I talked to leading up to

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and those that I watched the Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl with. There is definite Chiefs fatigue across the country. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there is Chiefs fatigue at it not unlike you know

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Speaker 2: when your team went back to the super Bowl for

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Speaker 2: a fourth time, there was some Bills fatigue back then.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but people were trying to tire of seeing us

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Speaker 3: getting beat up like a rag doll. But the think

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Speaker 3: about this that game yesterday, and I was telling you

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Speaker 3: this today and we have a conversation about it. It's

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Speaker 3: had listen. It's it's hard. It's hard to go to

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Speaker 3: the super Bowl, right. We all know that it's hard

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Speaker 3: to go through the regular season and worry about injuries

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Speaker 3: and overcome this and week to week challenges of it.

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Speaker 3: It's really hard, and it's it's really hard to go

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Speaker 3: and it's gonna be really really hard for Mahomes and

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Speaker 3: Kelsey and Andy Reid to go back again. It's gonna

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Speaker 3: be really hard for him. It's a long way. And

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Speaker 3: I remember thinking, I remember thinking, even you know, we're

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Speaker 3: going back, and we you know, going back for the

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Speaker 3: So you got to know that whatever they go through,

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Speaker 3: it's hard, and it gets harder every year subsequent year

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Speaker 3: after you go to that first one, like the like

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs have been to two in a row now

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Speaker 3: and three out of or four out of last five,

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Speaker 3: or three out of the last five, whatever it's been.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to go. And it's even so they took

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Speaker 3: a year off, you know, they got beat by Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: in their own building and a championship game to not go. Uh,

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Speaker 3: They've been in six straight AFC championship games. It's really

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Speaker 3: hard to get there, and a lot of stuff's gotta

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Speaker 3: go right. It's and just like it's hard for the Bills,

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Speaker 3: it's hard for them as well now for some reason.

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Speaker 3: And you can all come up with a gazillion reasons why,

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Speaker 3: you know, whether it's luck or you know, leading a

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Speaker 3: charmed life or whatever. They you know, they've been able

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Speaker 3: to go back to you know, six straight conference titles

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Speaker 3: and three was it three straight Super Bowls or two

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Speaker 3: two straight super bowl and uh yeah, they're played really well.

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Speaker 3: They're playing really good. And when when they're always in

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Speaker 3: these tight, close games, just like the Bills are. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we went through another regular season this last year and

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Speaker 3: the playoffs where every single game, except unless they won big,

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Speaker 3: every single game was a single possession game. Even the losses,

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Speaker 3: every single one, all the losses were by a single possession.

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Speaker 3: A lot of the a couple of wins were big,

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Speaker 3: of course, but even the playoffs, the loss to the

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Speaker 3: Chiefs by it was a single possession loss. They're hard

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Speaker 3: to beat. And the Chiefs, whatever it is is you

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Speaker 3: want to call it that esoteric, that's that little wispy

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Speaker 3: evisceral vapor that they've got that nobody else has. It

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Speaker 3: allows them to make a play one or two plays. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you think about that game yesterday. I'm going

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Speaker 3: off here. I'm sorry Brownie here. If Christian McCaffrey doesn't

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Speaker 3: cough that ball up on the first possession of the game,

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Speaker 3: how different does that game play? It plays out very differently.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's crazy to think about all the stuff

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Speaker 3: Niners were just absolutely rifling through the Chiefs defense and

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Speaker 3: it just didn't last. So you got to make it

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they were rifling through the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: Talk about that first drive, that first drive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get to that, because there's no question Luck

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Speaker 2: played a factor in this to a certain extent, and

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Speaker 2: I'll explain how in just a second. But for those

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Speaker 2: of you that were living under a rock, the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: won back to back Super Bowls, becoming the first team

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Speaker 2: Patriots teams back then largely won with their defense, and

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Speaker 2: Chiefs did the same yesterday. Their defense held them in

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Speaker 2: figured out what the forty nine Ers defense was doing

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Speaker 2: to them. They made adjustments and found a way to

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Speaker 2: win in overtime. Because that's a ten to three game.

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Speaker 2: Like through the first half.

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Speaker 3: It was a snoozefest early on first quarter zero zero, but.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs defense kept it from being a runaway. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they really put the Niners offense under wraps, you know.

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Speaker 2: And the Chiefs, to Steve's point, talking about how games

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Speaker 2: could have turned on a play here, a play there,

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Speaker 2: Chiefs are all so lucky. Yesterday. They had five fumbles

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Speaker 2: had two fumbles and lost both of them. Gotta be

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Speaker 2: a little lucky with the way that balls. But you

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Speaker 3: That's amazing. Yeah, that's hey.

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Speaker 2: And Harrison Butker fifty seven yard field goal less and driven.

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Speaker 2: He put it between the hands of two defensive linemen.

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Speaker 3: This just in two. I mean, that's lucky. Text of

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Speaker 3: the five Presidents last night during the game. Steve Christie's

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Speaker 3: record fell last night. Thirty year old record.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it got beaten by Joe Whyoody, who had the

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Speaker 3: Hours, not even it was thirty minutes. And the next thing,

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Speaker 3: you know, Harrison Bucker tops him. So Steve, for those

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Speaker 3: what don't know what we're talking about. Steve Christie, former

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Speaker 3: hit a fifty four yarder and amazingly, that's the longest

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Speaker 3: made field goal in Super Bowl history, just fifty four yards.

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Speaker 3: It's a good kick, don't kick me wrong. But it

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Speaker 3: was beaten finally last night twice by both kickers, one

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Speaker 3: for each each club. And the Butker kick, as you said,

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Speaker 3: he hit it through a donut hole. I mean, the

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Speaker 3: defensive line for the Niners were all around the thing.

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Speaker 2: It looked like a line drive to center field play

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Speaker 3: It barely got above the uprossball. I mean it was

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Speaker 3: I thought, oh, it's not gonna make it.

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Speaker 3: It was so low. I thought the arc was gonna be,

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Speaker 3: you know, too low to make it kick. But he

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Speaker 3: vice versa. The Niners guy, he gets up high enough

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Speaker 2: Let's let's take a moment, because kickers probably don't get

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Speaker 2: enough credit. They only get blame usually when they don't

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Speaker 2: come through. But how about the season that Harrison Butker

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Speaker 2: the Bills Chiefs game in Week fourteen, Butcker was thirty

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Speaker 2: of thirty on the season on field goals. That's a

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Speaker 2: that's a career season by itself. This year, okay, with

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Speaker 2: Here is Harrison. Butcker's number line sore you ready, forty

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Speaker 2: four of forty six on field goals. That's a ninety

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Speaker 2: five point seven percent success rate. Fifteen of fifteen on

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Speaker 2: So you look at his numbers, Yeah, forty four of

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Speaker 2: forty six probably two three quarters of those were inside

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Speaker 2: including seven of seven from fifty plus. That is a

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Speaker 3: In his In his Super Bowl career, he's got four

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Speaker 3: for four on field goals. It ties the most ever.

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Speaker 3: That was last night, ties for the most makes ever

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Speaker 2: More than like VINETTERI think about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, made a Super Bowl record fifty seven yard as

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Speaker 3: you said, and he finished this postseason this year eleven

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Speaker 2: Man, that's bananas that you know what.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of the stuff that's like the fringe, not

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Speaker 3: I want to know you got to hit on those. That's

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Speaker 3: one of the fifty million cylinders you got to hit

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Speaker 2: So USA said he was eleven of eleven in this

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Speaker 3: That's what they just said in this postseason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that means he had forty five attempts in

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Speaker 2: he was thirty three of forty What was he thirty three?

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Speaker 2: I gotta do this quick math here, eleven of eleven.

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Speaker 2: I'm so bad at live math. So he's thirty three

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Speaker 2: No, no, I'm taking those away just to get his

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Speaker 2: regular season attempts in makes So he's thirty three of

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Speaker 2: thirty five on the season, which for the season, and

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Speaker 2: And so he's got a ninety four point two percent

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Speaker 2: That is a high rate. It's obviously not a record,

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Speaker 2: But on this season, his success rate is almost ninety

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was. Uh that's special. He missed two

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Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, he had. He had a great year. And

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Speaker 3: that's just one of the just one layer of you know,

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Speaker 3: a regular season where You're right, they looked vulner But

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Speaker 3: once again, I'll I'll say this too. One guy that

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Speaker 3: doesn't get enough kudos is Steve Spagnolo and the and

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Speaker 3: the job that he's done. His first offensive or defensive

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Speaker 3: won two with the Giants and now is one two

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Speaker 3: Reid and those guys, taking those young players on defense

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Speaker 3: last year, all those rookies and getting to the Super

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Speaker 3: year backing it up Steve Spagnola. He wasn't Assistant Coach

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Speaker 3: of the Year, but man, oh man, I don't know

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Speaker 3: how what what a season he had as defensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: I know that Kyle Shanahan, the head coach of the Niners,

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Speaker 2: in the league.

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Speaker 3: Two they didn't matter. They didn't light up, they did

435
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 3: not light up the scoreboard in those games. But they

436
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 3: end up winning them. You know, they end up winning them.

437
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Speaker 2: He is the ultimate decision maker where he separates from

438
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Speaker 2: everybody else in the league. You want to argue that

439
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 2: Josh is maybe more talented than Mahomes, I will agree

440
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Speaker 2: with you. I think he is more physically gifted than

441
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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, but nobody touches Patrick Mahomes in the decision

442
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: making part of the game. He recognizes time and score

443
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 2: down in distance coverages in the blink of an eye.

444
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 2: He understands tendencies, and he knows when to take risks

445
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: and when not to better than any other quarterback in football.

446
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Speaker 2: And to me, it's not even close. And that's why

447
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 2: the Chiefs win games because that guy has the ball

448
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 2: in his hands on every single play and he makes

449
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: the right decision ninety nine and a half times out

450
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Speaker 2: of one hundred. And that's why he is the ultimate

451
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Speaker 2: difference maker in this league. And it's why you know

452
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Speaker 2: they've won three Super Bowls and been in four of

453
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Speaker 2: the last five title games. I mean, that's why.

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Speaker 3: You gotta and I'll say this too, Yeah, it's frustrating.

455
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Speaker 3: And that's the frust The thing about it is, you know,

456
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Speaker 3: you don't mind losing. I think for if it's a

457
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Speaker 3: good game, stuff, you get it. You're not gonna win

458
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 3: every one of these games. But now you get into

459
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Speaker 3: these spots where it seems like the same team wins

460
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Speaker 3: all the time and it doesn't seem like they're that

461
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Speaker 3: much different than your team. That's the frustrating point. In fact,

462
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 3: this iteration of the Chiefs is much different than the

463
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Speaker 3: one the Bills met in the AFC Championship.

464
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Speaker 2: The most vulnerable, yeah.

465
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Speaker 3: And so and plus they are the most vulnerable. But

466
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Speaker 3: also that's the I think that Chiefs came from from

467
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Speaker 3: four years ago, after the twenty twenty season when they

468
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Speaker 3: got the AFC title game and the Bills got beat

469
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Speaker 3: by was.

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Speaker 2: A fourteen thirty eight to thirty.

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Speaker 3: Eight or twenty four? Yeah, that team, that Chiefs team had,

472
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Speaker 3: That team played its best game of the season against

473
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Speaker 3: the Bills in the AFC Championship game. That's the one

474
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Speaker 3: that lost to the Tampa Bay team. They played their

475
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Speaker 3: best game of the last two months of that season.

476
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Speaker 3: Against the Bills in the AFC Championship Game, no question

477
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Speaker 3: about it. You go back and watch all those games.

478
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Speaker 3: They played their best in the AFC Championship Game. They

479
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Speaker 3: lost ultimately in the Super Bowl. And I say it

480
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Speaker 3: all the time, if you know, if if there's that much,

481
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Speaker 3: if there's two percent, it's the difference in the best

482
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Speaker 3: teams in the worst team, you're somewhere in that two percent.

483
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Speaker 3: They're always towards the you know, he's a top of

484
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Speaker 3: the difference man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he has in his hands.

486
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Speaker 3: He's and you know, I'll say this too, So's So's

487
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Speaker 3: the Bills guy. There's a couple of them. The Bills

488
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Speaker 3: have a guy like that. Since He's got a guy

489
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Speaker 3: like that, Baltimore's got a guy like that, and then.

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Speaker 2: None of them are as consistent in making the right

491
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Speaker 2: decision as Mahomes is.

492
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Speaker 3: That's right.

493
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Speaker 2: Yeah, after I'm convinced he that's where he separates from

494
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Speaker 2: the other guys. And it's it's often the difference in

495
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Speaker 2: getting the Chiefs to the top of the mountain. And

496
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Speaker 2: I think it was again yesterday. And that's why I'm

497
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Speaker 2: calling him the Michael Jordan of the NFL, because it

498
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 2: doesn't matter how good everybody else is. He's just a

499
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 2: little bit better. And he's like a he's like a

500
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Speaker 2: solar eclipse. You could you could be more gifted than him,

501
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Speaker 2: Like Josh Allen, you could be maybe you even got

502
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Speaker 2: a higher IQ football IQ than him. Maybe that's Joe Burrow.

503
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Speaker 2: I don't know, doesn't matter.

504
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Speaker 3: He's yeah, he's it's been, it's and you know, from

505
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 3: this side of it, it's for a change.

506
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Speaker 4: You know.

507
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Speaker 3: We just and I've heard everybody talking about this. That

508
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,719
Speaker 3: was for the longest time it was Tom Brady. Now

509
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Speaker 3: we got this guy, you know, Oh my god. You know,

510
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 3: well it's a little different. But yeah, at least the

511
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: guy's not in your division. You gotta playing twice a year.

512
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Speaker 3: He's in the conference. No question, Bill's got to play

513
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 3: them again next season. They're gonna hear him Buffalo. They'll

514
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 3: see him here in Buffalo this next season. Hopefully it'll

515
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 3: be in September. It'll be in a good day and

516
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: all that, and be able to see these guys, you know,

517
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 3: strut their stuff. It'll be fun to watch these guys

518
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 3: player in the season when maybe the both their rosters

519
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: are healthy and all of that stuff. It'll be fun.

520
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Speaker 2: So on the heels of this latest Chiefs Super Bowl victory,

521
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Speaker 2: we ask you what do the Bills need to add

522
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: this offseason to pull even or get ahead of the Chiefs?

523
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: Eight oh three zero, five point fifty one eighty eight,

524
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Speaker 2: five fifty two, five fifteen. Then I'm gonna get on

525
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Speaker 2: board and we lead off this morning as we are

526
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Speaker 2: close to the break here, but we lead off this

527
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Speaker 2: morning with Butch on the east side. What do you

528
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: got for us? Butcher?

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Speaker 5: First of all, good afternoons, gentleman, and thanks so much

530
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Speaker 5: for taking my call. I want to just say this

531
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Speaker 5: brownie back when Michael Jordan got drafted, to say, but

532
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 5: we got drafted before they didn't know what he had.

533
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 5: And Michael Jordan became special and as you already know,

534
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 5: he's called the goat or the special person in.

535
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Speaker 4: This NBA to this day.

536
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 5: Now going what you just said is back in twenty

537
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Speaker 5: seventeen and pick number ten when Buffalo had the selection,

538
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 5: we trade the Kansas City and that selection became Pastor Mahomes.

539
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 5: He came into the NFL through our pick and sometimes

540
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 5: you know a lot of people a lot of our call.

541
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Speaker 5: If you are chosen he's chosen. We have to acknowledge

542
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 5: greatness when we see it. It's two different kinds of fans.

543
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 5: You could be a fan of a sport and you

544
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 5: could be a fan of a team. I love the sport.

545
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 5: I respect greatness regardless if it's my team or someone else's.

546
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 5: This guy is very special. Yesterday he got his yellow

547
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 5: jacket to the Hall of Fame yesterday. After that game,

548
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Speaker 5: he will be a first time favor when his time,

549
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 5: when he's up, he'll be a first bidder. Steve should

550
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 5: be there, but he's gonna be a first bidder. The

551
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 5: reason why I say that is and I'm gonna be

552
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 5: done after that, thank you. So let's think of my

553
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Speaker 5: call is that I have to look.

554
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Speaker 6: At Andy Reid.

555
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 5: Andy Reid. A lot of coaches used to criticize Andy

556
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Speaker 5: Reid because and I don't.

557
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 4: I'm not getting on the I'm not getting on flavor.

558
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 4: I call race flavor.

559
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 5: But when the black quarterback came out, he had Donovan McNabb,

560
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 5: he had Michael Vick when he came out of prison,

561
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 5: he had Terrell Owens when nobody wanted him. And then

562
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 5: he took Patrick Mahomes when everybody thought he was a

563
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Speaker 5: gunslinger down.

564
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Speaker 7: To Texas Tech.

565
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Speaker 5: I have to respect his teaching of how he taught

566
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Speaker 5: these guys to play that position even though they had talent.

567
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 5: I love my guy Number seventeen, who we have. That's

568
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 5: all I asked is somebody to teach him because.

569
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Speaker 4: He was raw.

570
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Speaker 5: I really believe Joe Brady and his staff. Now we're

571
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Speaker 5: going in that direction. To add to your question, what

572
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 5: do we need to beat this guy? First, we're gonna

573
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 5: respect the guy, like Chris Jones respected the Buffalo Bills

574
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Speaker 5: on his comments after the Super Bowl by saying, we

575
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 5: played the great Buffalo Bills team that really kind of

576
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 5: catapulted us to where we are today. Hats off to

577
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Speaker 5: Chris Jones. But I'm gonna say this, we go ahead

578
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 5: in a draft, keep building that offensive line, maybe get

579
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Speaker 5: a receiver, but keep Josh Allen on his feet and

580
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 5: keep tutelage around this guy and we can do what

581
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 5: we have to do.

582
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Speaker 4: I love both of you.

583
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Speaker 5: You guys have a great time of love HIMSG and

584
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Speaker 5: w g R and all the fans. You guys have

585
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 5: a great day, and thanks. Take thinging Yeah thanks?

586
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Speaker 3: Uh yeah not? Maybe take a wide receiver. They're gonna

587
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Speaker 3: take a life.

588
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: They have to.

589
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Speaker 3: They're gonna take a wide receiver, right. Brownie and I

590
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 3: have been harping, and we don't we don't have no

591
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 3: we don't have a voice. All we do is talk.

592
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Nobody's listening to us over here.

593
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 3: But Brownie and I have been on this thing, this

594
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 3: this arms race thing for now. This will be our

595
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: second offseason in a row thing. We got to get somebody,

596
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: a big number, big time number one, and to help

597
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,239
Speaker 3: Digs and you know, to take over for Diggs as

598
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: he gets into his mid thirties. You know, we gotta

599
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 3: have a guy and you need help. You need production

600
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: over there as well. So yes, we're gonna be on that.

601
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: And yeah, so you're right in that, and you're right

602
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 3: as well. You got to tip your hat to Mahomes

603
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 3: and those guys. They are getting it done year in

604
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 3: year out. They have morphed into a much different team

605
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 3: than they were three or four years ago. And they

606
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: still keep winning games in the moments when they need

607
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: to win. I mean, that's what makes the difference right there.

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Speaker 2: Right, And I'm convinced more so than ever we were

609
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 2: convinced of this last year I'm completely convinced now that

610
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: you have to load up on offense and what is

611
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: truly an arms race, because the three of the best

612
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: defenses in football faced Patrick Mahomes in succession and all

613
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: three teams lost the football game no matter what they

614
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: threw at him, including the kitchen saying. Now, the Bill's

615
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: defense was injury riddled. They didn't have their starting middle linebacker.

616
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: It was a huge void and vulnerability in their defense,

617
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Speaker 2: and the Chiefs exposed it. But then the Ravens, fully healthy,

618
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Speaker 2: number one defense in football. I think they were number

619
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Speaker 2: one in points allowed as well. They couldn't do it.

620
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Speaker 2: And then the Niners, arguably the next best defense in

621
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Speaker 2: football after the Ravens, couldn't do it either. So to me,

622
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: you got to load up with weapons, and that's what

623
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Speaker 2: I would like to see them ad to try to

624
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Speaker 2: pull even or even pull past the Chiefs next season.

625
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Speaker 2: We're taking your phone calls though here at eight three

626
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Speaker 2: five fifty one eight eight eight five point fifty two

627
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Speaker 2: five point fifty. We'll get to Cindy, Mark and Mike

628
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Speaker 2: when we return, and others holding at ato three five

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Speaker 2: fifty when we return. On One Bill's Live presented by

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Speaker 2: Colia Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here

631
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Speaker 2: on the Monday after Super Bowl fifty eight, Chris Brown,

632
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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you and topic of discussion for you today,

633
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: what do the Bills need to add to pull even

634
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: or get ahead of those Chiefs. They're gonna be standing

635
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: in the way for quite some time with Number fifteen

636
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: at quarterback and the Walrus on the sidelines.

637
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, both of guys, both guys swore there, Kelsey

638
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: and Andy Reid said for sure they're coming back. They're

639
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: going to defend it and try and go for another

640
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,239
Speaker 3: one this next year.

641
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Speaker 2: You're already talking three pete.

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00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Oh well, why wouldn't they. It's it's time

643
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: for that right now. Yeah, that's that's when you do.

644
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: It's just amazing that it's it's it's minutes after winning

645
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and there all seems.

646
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Speaker 3: Easy now, It all seems easy now, right, Wait till

647
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 3: they get wait till you get in the off seats like, ugh,

648
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 3: you know OTA's and minie camp and what hey, we're

649
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 3: the champions. Yeah, but you're zero and zero.

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Speaker 8: Bro.

651
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Speaker 3: You got to know you gotta go out and be

652
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 3: climb them mountain. You gotta climb them mountain again. As

653
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 3: hard man you would know.

654
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones and to Cindy and

655
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: Niagara Falls. What do you got for Cindy?

656
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 9: Hi, guys, thanks for taking my call. First off, I

657
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 9: want to say that I didn't care who won. That's

658
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,959
Speaker 9: all I was looking for yesterday was a good game

659
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 9: last night and that we got that we got a

660
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 9: good game. What I am utterly disgusted at is Travis

661
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 9: Kelcey when he pushed coach read. The thing is I

662
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 9: played sports my whole life, and plenty of times I

663
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 9: was frustrated. That's not an excuse ever, And we you know,

664
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 9: our kids see these players as role models. And the

665
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 9: thing is, you know our kid's gonna think that they

666
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 9: can do that to their coaches. You know what, I

667
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 9: don't care if it was a Super Bowl or not.

668
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 9: His ass would have been benched and he wouldn't have

669
00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 9: played the rest of the game.

670
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 6: Thanks a lot, you bet well.

671
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: So, yeah, you don't let your kids push the coach,

672
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, if you're talking about youth sports,

673
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 3: your the parents are as much a part of that

674
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 3: kid's development as the as the as the coaches are.

675
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 3: If you find your kid acting in such a way

676
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 3: like that, it's up to you, as more so than

677
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 3: the coach, to correct your kid and how he acts

678
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 3: on the sidelines.

679
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 2: Let's see if you can speak to this the emotions

680
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: that are packed into a game and frustrations which were

681
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: clearly boilingly over for a chiefs offense that had done

682
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: nothing to that point. Maybe explain how that translates to, well,

683
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: here's that kind of stuff on the sideline.

684
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: You're not talking about a kid who's frustrated. You're not

685
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 3: talking about anything like that. You're talking about two grown

686
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 3: men who have a lot of love and respect for

687
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 3: each other, a lot of love and respect for each other.

688
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: Andy Reid didn't give it a thought. I mean it

689
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: certainly it was a moment. It was a moment where

690
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: they had it. And so you can see Andy Reid

691
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: looks at him, knows the screen at him, and then

692
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 3: just lets it slide. He didn't even he didn't acknowledge it.

693
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: And to supposed it was about getting taken off the field.

694
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: For abody knows what it was about. The thing is

695
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: a lot of this and we've i mean the thing

696
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 3: on socializing. What if Diggs had done that to Sean McDermott,

697
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, right, it was gone crazy for month

698
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: guys and I and I know, I'm I don't want to.

699
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 3: I don't bring you know, gender in and out guys

700
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: are like that. That's like what this little pushing incident

701
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 3: on the sideline with Andy Reid and Travis Kelsey is

702
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 3: like water off a duck's back. They'll look a hey

703
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 3: and Kelsey come, I say, hey, bro, I'm sorry, but

704
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: I was. And Andy he's like, hey, yeah, I don't

705
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 3: worry about get out.

706
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 6: You know.

707
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 3: It's like they won't. It's and it's gone. There's no

708
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 3: baggage from that moment for those two, particularly because they

709
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 3: look they won the game obviously, But when you're talking

710
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 3: about grown men, and listen, I'm the last guy who

711
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 3: should call anybody to task for losing their temper in

712
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 3: a football game. Absolute last guy, because I did it

713
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 3: all the time, all the time. I mean I never

714
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 3: went I never went full Brian Cox or anything like that.

715
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 2: He did it with officials, though not your head coach.

716
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 10: I was.

717
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 3: I was awful. I was awful. So I have a

718
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 3: lot of grace for guys getting in that head. I

719
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 3: had a lot of grace for Pat Mahomes in the

720
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 3: in the Chiefs Bills regular season game when Tony, yeah,

721
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 3: we got calling off side. He had no idea how

722
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: correct that officials call was when it got taken off

723
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 3: the touchdown got taken off the board. Later on he did,

724
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: but that I get that headspace. You're in a game

725
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: like that and you are absolutely you go out, you

726
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: go out of your mind with the injustice of the

727
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 3: perceived injustice, whatever, whatever, whatever minutia you deemed to be

728
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: an injustice, you absolutely snap. And it's the emotions of it,

729
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 3: it's the moment of it. It's the importance of it

730
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 3: that has been attached by you and everybody around you,

731
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: all the guys you love, You all got this on

732
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 3: and something happens and you just absolutely snap. I got

733
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 3: a lot of And you're right, Cindy. It was the

734
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 3: wrong thing to do at the wrong time, but it

735
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 3: was for us. It all seems like this big blow up.

736
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 3: I mean, it's something really humble. Wow, oh my god,

737
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 3: it's believed me in the context of an NFL sideline.

738
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 2: Small potatoes.

739
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: It is not even a pebble in a pond. It's nothing.

740
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 3: It's not a drop in the drop in the ocean.

741
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 3: So I know that we perceive, and we've been doing

742
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: this a lot lately, particularly since we've had this with

743
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 3: Steph Diggs and all the stuff that goes on the

744
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 3: sidelines even before he came to Buffalo and other guys

745
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 3: on sidelines that and there was other stuff on the

746
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 3: chief sideline last night where Mahomes was yelling and screaming

747
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: at Rice at she Rice late in the game in

748
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: overtime and they were like, he was just giving it

749
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 3: to him hard and she was like, he's listening to him.

750
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: All that stuff happens, and it's just part of what

751
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 3: it is in that group dynamic when you've got a

752
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 3: highly intense situation, a highly intense environment, and you've got

753
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: guys trying to communicate and it is urgent. I mean

754
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: the urgent lot.

755
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: It's like a kitchen at a five star restaurant.

756
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 3: Yes it is. It is all hands on deck and

757
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 3: you're trying to save the ship and your very lives.

758
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 3: That's the urgency with which these guys communicate and are

759
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: their work clicking keyed up, So you can imagine that

760
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 3: it's gonna it's gonna boil over on a not just

761
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 3: not just for Andy Reid and Travis Kelcey, but it

762
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: was also for Mahomes and Rashi Rice. It was also

763
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 3: for Chris Jones getting up off it when she when

764
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 3: was a Mikole Hardman lost eleven yards on a play

765
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 3: over Valdez, scanting, Chris John gonna lose his head's gonna explode.

766
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 3: He wanted to. He was gonna ring his own teammate's neck, right,

767
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 3: And then the teammate he just had there trying to

768
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 3: make something happen, and he absolutely get blows up in

769
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 3: his face. All that stuff is going on. There is

770
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 3: no there's no turning back. I mean it is. You

771
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 3: are going full speed ahead, and if if it will

772
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 3: help you punching your teammate in the chest and saying,

773
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 3: you know, wake up, you're gonna You're gonna boil your

774
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 3: fist up and swing. That's just the way it is.

775
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

776
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 3: There, you will not do. There is nothing you won't

777
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: do to save that moment.

778
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: And that's kind of what was happening.

779
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: And that was a moment that was already gone.

780
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

781
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 3: It's I can't, you can't.

782
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: That's why I asked you to respond to it, because

783
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 2: you can capture. You can know what that emotion is

784
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: down there, but it's very hard for people that have

785
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 2: not been down there to understand.

786
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: I'll say this too. You're right, she send, He's right.

787
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 3: If you're a parent you have a kid in in

788
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 3: youth sports, that is a that is a teaching moment

789
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 3: for what not to do right. You don't want it's

790
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 3: it should never be that. It's a super Bowl in

791
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 3: a professional sport where adult men are working together and

792
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: have been working together for years. That's a different environment

793
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 3: than one of the other dads who's coaching your son,

794
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: and you're you don't want your son doing that to

795
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 3: the other kids, you know what I mean. That's that's

796
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: a it's off. It's a different world. So you need

797
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 3: to have that teaching moment if you have your kids.

798
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: It's never never appropriate. Not that it was like all

799
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 3: copasetic and all happy and fun and games for Andy

800
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 3: Reid and Travis Kelcey either, but man, oh man, yeah,

801
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 3: that's that's out of bounds in almost every other situation.

802
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: You saw Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs win their third

803
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: Super Bowl yesterday. What do the Bills need to add

804
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: this offseason to get ahead of that team in the AFC.

805
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 2: Your phone calls continue next here on One Bills Live.

806
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 2: Stay tuned, all right, Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

807
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve tasking with you, wide open for phone

808
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 2: calls all afternoon and asking you why what do the

809
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 2: Bills need to add to get ahead of the Chiefs

810
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: this off season. And we go to Mark in Jersey

811
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: City next and let me pull him up here. What

812
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: you got for us? Mark?

813
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 6: Good afternoon, gentlemen. Yeah, you guys went on about Harrison

814
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 6: Bucker earlier. The Bills always get tagged with trading that

815
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 6: draft pick to the Chiefs that got them Homes. Well,

816
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 6: Brandon Bean was in the Carolina front office when they

817
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 6: drafted Bucker, and Chiefs poached him off their practice squad

818
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 6: later that offseason, and here we are. He's just as

819
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 6: responsible for thirteen seconds as anybody. For me, it's the Bills,

820
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 6: It's not the quarterbacks. Mahomes was not magical last night.

821
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 6: The forty nine Ers just did enough to keep them

822
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 6: in the game and to loose. They don't do anything

823
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 6: with that interception on the Chiefs coming out of the half.

824
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 6: The Chiefs, the Andy Reid boondoggles the fourth and short.

825
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 6: I mean, I think Kelsey had the first down. They

826
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 6: run Pacheco in, he doesn't get it and you have

827
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 6: That was the Ray Ray McCloud I remember with the Bills.

828
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 6: Just fall on it, dude, and he tries to pick

829
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 6: it up and run with it, and next play they score.

830
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 6: The Chiefs were dead in the water. They gave them

831
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 6: every chance to get back in the game, and it's

832
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 6: the Bill's secondary players that don't make enough place for

833
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 6: them to win the game. Here's Chris Jones again impacting

834
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 6: a big play down in the red zone. Juwan Jennings,

835
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 6: who was the forty nine arguably the forty nine ers

836
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 6: best offensive player last night, aside from juice check knocks,

837
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 6: just blows up. The play doesn't give pretty enough time

838
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 6: to hang in there and hit hit Jennings for a touchdown.

839
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 6: It's it's though, it's those plays. It's it's just the

840
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 6: secondary supplemental players not making enough plays around the Bills

841
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 6: Uh and Josh Allen to get them over the hump.

842
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 6: That's what I feel like. It is nothing more than that.

843
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 6: It's not some pennis it's not you know, stroke of

844
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 6: a pen, tannasy a thing. But thanks for taking my call.

845
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:28,959
Speaker 8: Guys.

846
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it, and that's kind of the way

847
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 3: I see it as well. I mean, it's certainly I've

848
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 3: said it a bunch and you can use whatever analogy

849
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 3: you want. And I've always said you got to hit

850
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 3: on all cylinders to beat really good teams, and teams

851
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 3: have to hit on all cylinders to beat the Bills.

852
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 3: But when I say on all cylinders, it's like a

853
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 3: thousand cylinders. And those secondary players that you have, you've

854
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 3: got to find enough of those to overcome. And it's

855
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 3: Chris Jones is not a secondary player, but I would

856
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 3: have front line. He is a he is a stud.

857
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 3: You need to show up. He's an elite player, and

858
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 3: he did. He played elite last night, had made a.

859
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 2: Coup and it mattered most.

860
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 3: And that's that's what great players do. They show up

861
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 3: when it matters most. You need a lot of those players,

862
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 3: and you need a ton of those guys you mentioned, Yeah,

863
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 3: the Ray Ray mcleods. I get it. Harrison Butker, and

864
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 3: I'll say this too, not for nothing. I'm not making

865
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 3: the excuses. Harrison, Butker was drafted by somebody else, and

866
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 3: Kickers are a different guy. They go to this team

867
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 3: and they stink, they move over here, and all of

868
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 3: a sudden, they're there for ten years and they're on

869
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: the Ring of Honor.

870
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: And I'll defend Brandon Bean because I believe the kicker

871
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: they had at that time was Graham Gano, who was

872
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 2: one of the strongest legged and one of the more

873
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: accurate kickers in the league at the time. He's a

874
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 2: proven veteran commodity so Harrison, Butcker had yet to do

875
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: anything in the league, so you understand why they felt

876
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 2: one guy they had to keep and the other guy

877
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 2: they didn't know about. So it's kind of hard to

878
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 2: criticize him on that one.

879
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so that's you know, I'm kind of with

880
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: you there, Mark. I. Yes, it's a good call, appreciate it,

881
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: and yeah, that's the way these games are going to be.

882
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 3: That's the way the league is now. And I've talked

883
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 3: about it for a month and a half when even

884
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 3: this whole regular season, I was talking about it because

885
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 3: people were talking about the officiating and how it was

886
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 3: stinking it up, and they were, well, these games are

887
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 3: coming like last night is coming down to these these plays.

888
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 3: You can all pick any five you want, and that's

889
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 3: the difference in the game. And that's that's where the

890
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 3: league is these days. And that's why it's really frustrating

891
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: for teams that just can't quite get there, because it's

892
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 3: always those one or two plays that you can't predict.

893
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: And I'll be the first to and I said it

894
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: earlier in the show, the defense for the Chiefs held

895
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 2: them in the game. When the Chiefs offense could do

896
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: absolutely nothing and you had a ten to three football game.

897
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: The problem is seventeen the Chiefs adjusted did what they

898
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 2: needed to do. And then in games where you know,

899
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: the score on the board is as thin as it's

900
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: ever been in this league, over seventy five percent of

901
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: the games decided by one score or less. To me,

902
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 2: it only amplifies the elite decision making of a Patrick

903
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 2: mahone homes because when you can't make a mistake, you

904
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 2: want the guy that makes the fewest, and he makes

905
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 2: the fewest. That was his first interception in seven playoff games.

906
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: Think about that, seven playoff games. You're playing against the

907
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: best teams in football. He's got one pick in seven

908
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 2: playoff games. You know how many times he throws it

909
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 2: a game, like fifty times? One pick? The guy doesn't

910
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: make mistakes almost ever. And so when you're playing in

911
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 2: one score games, whereas Steve says, two or three plays

912
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: make the difference, he makes him and doesn't miss on him.

913
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: That's why he's elite and that's why nobody can beat him. Yeah,

914
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 2: he doesn't screw it up.

915
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, these teams are like even so you mean, you know,

916
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 3: even Josh didn't turn it over in the playoffs this year.

917
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, for a guy who gets hounded

918
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 3: like that all the time, he didn't turn it over.

919
00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 3: That's how close it is. You've you got to play

920
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 3: mistake free. And in a case like Mahomes, in a

921
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 3: case like Josh and he's got you got to make

922
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: a superlative play once in a while, you got to

923
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 3: do something wow that you got.

924
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: To know when to make a super play, when to

925
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 2: mitigate risks.

926
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 3: That's how that's how tough it is to win. So

927
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 3: it's that's why this league is gonna do nothing but

928
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 3: get even more popular. This game's like last night, man,

929
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 3: it was there's a lot going on, man, And it

930
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 3: was zero zero. Yeah, it was zero zero going into

931
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 3: going into the first first quarter, is coming out of

932
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 3: it's zero zero, and it's like, oh my gosh.

933
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: And it was even going into the fourth fifth quarter.

934
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: So think about that. It's crazy.

935
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 3: It's crazy how good that game was last night. And

936
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 3: and it's that's the same thing the Bills and Chiefs played.

937
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 3: Data fifty six million people watch the division round here

938
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 3: in Buffalo against those two guys. That's how close these

939
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 3: games are. That's it's you know, that's Uh, that's the

940
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 3: frustrating part about it because it seems like it's never

941
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 3: gonna change. But if you ask the guys that are involved,

942
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 3: they never take anything for ran. Now that the Chiefs

943
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: come in here to Buffalo and thenning, man, this is

944
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 3: going to be rough and the Bill same thing. None

945
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: of those guys know how it's going to turn out.

946
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 2: Let's go to Mike in East Arora next. What do

947
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 2: you got Mike, Hi?

948
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 11: Guys, the Bills, what they need to overcome the Chiefs

949
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 11: is a shamrock because in my opinion, Patrick Mahomes is

950
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 11: the luckiest quarterback I have ever ever seen.

951
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 8: I look at I.

952
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 11: Look at the games. I look at the games, and

953
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 11: every single one except for the one when he when

954
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 11: he put up when he put up fifty one points. Uh,

955
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 11: they had no business winning those games. As far as

956
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 11: Travis Kelsey is confirmed. Steve, I understand where you're coming

957
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 11: from because I used to play sports and I played

958
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 11: Division U. I'll leave it at that, but I will

959
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 11: tell you if you were in the NFL, which you were,

960
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 11: and I used to watch play, would you have ever

961
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 11: done that tomorrow?

962
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 5: Please?

963
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 11: That's that's all I'm asking.

964
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 3: I'll say this. I'd like to say no. I'd like

965
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 3: to say no.

966
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: And that's the distinction for me. I mean, you used

967
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: to go after refs, but you never did that tomorrow.

968
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 5: I did.

969
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 3: I never did that tomorrow. Yeah, go ahead, and you and.

970
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 11: You never would because you know why, Steve, you had

971
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 11: respect for him. Okay, And I'm very sorry. I'm very sorry,

972
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 11: but I disagree with you saying that Travis Kelsey has

973
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 11: respect because if he had respect, when there's multi million

974
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 11: people watching a game all over the world, you would never,

975
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 11: under any circumstances do that. I don't care how he

976
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 11: did you got, you would never.

977
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 7: Do something like that when there's multi.

978
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 11: Million people watching the game. It's disgusting. Just like that

979
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 11: girl said, and then by and by opinion, he needs

980
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 11: to be suspended.

981
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if that's gonna happen, that's not

982
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 3: gonna happen.

983
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 4: Uh.

984
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 3: And I and I agree with you, he was. He

985
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 3: was out of line, he crossed the line. He would

986
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 3: probably wish he didn't. But like I said that, and

987
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 3: I don't know the dynamic. I can guess and use

988
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 3: my experience that guide me. But I would guess that

989
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 3: that incident with Andy on the sidelines, and even Travis,

990
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 3: he kind of didn't want to say anything after the thing.

991
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 3: He kind of made light of it after the game

992
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 3: in one interview I saw he knows he kind of

993
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 3: got out of line in that, and probably he's gonna

994
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 3: apologize to Andy. But they'll they'll handle it in house.

995
00:51:59,840 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: Uh.

996
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 3: They don't have to. They don't owe as much as

997
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 3: you think they should. They don't owe anybody. It's Andy

998
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 3: and Travis's relationship, and I'm sure it's going to be intact.

999
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 7: Uh.

1000
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 3: And Travis will handle that in a way that gives

1001
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 3: Andy the respect he deserves, and he might even do

1002
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 3: it in front of the team. But you can bet

1003
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 3: that their relationship can withstand that altercation that happened on

1004
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 3: the sidelines. And if that's true, and you got to

1005
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 3: trust Andy Reid that he's okay with Travis, Otherwise he

1006
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 3: would punish him. If it was some guy who they

1007
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 3: already had problems with. The guys that are and he

1008
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 3: did that to Andy might just might have benched him.

1009
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 3: But a guy like Travis, who he's been around with

1010
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 3: and they have a long standing relationship, it's different. It's

1011
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 3: and I think everybody can understand that if it's if

1012
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 3: it's a family member, they get the benefit of the doubt.

1013
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 3: If it's some jamoke, they don't.

1014
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 11: No.

1015
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 3: And and Travis Kelsey, he is a family member.

1016
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: And as far as your contention that you know Mahomes

1017
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 2: is the luckiest guy in the world. You want to

1018
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: argue that the ball's bounced his way a few times,

1019
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: I'll be shrappy to agree with you on that. And

1020
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 2: last night was no different because, as I mentioned, the

1021
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: team had five fumbles in the game. The Chiefs lost

1022
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 2: one of them. San Francisco had two fumbles, they lost

1023
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: both of them, So that you gotta be a little

1024
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 2: lucky for the way the ball bounces. And there's no question,

1025
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:27,439
Speaker 2: but Mahomes also executed a thirteen play, seventy five yard

1026
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 2: drive in a haf to have it touchdown to win

1027
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: the game in overtime drive, and he executed it flawlessly,

1028
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 2: A fourth and one, a third and six, a third

1029
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 2: and one, and the game winning touchdown pass. He is

1030
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 2: Is he lucky? I'll give you that is he elite? Yes,

1031
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: he's also pretty damn good and maybe the best in

1032
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 2: the league and may continue to be for a long time.

1033
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, Blaine and Williamsville, Joe

1034
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 2: and Buffalo will lead us off when we return here

1035
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live presented by co Lot of Health.

1036
00:53:56,520 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 12: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1037
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Calida Health.

1038
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 2: There we are our number two on a Monday after

1039
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: Super Bowl fifty eight. Chiefs are again world champs, back

1040
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 2: to back chance for the first time in twenty years

1041
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: in the NFL, Patriots last to do that.

1042
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 11: No.

1043
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: Three oh four, and we are asking you what do

1044
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 2: the Bills need to add to get ahead of those

1045
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 2: pesky Chiefs ato three oh five fifty one eight eight

1046
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 2: eight five fifty two five fifty I'm probably understating it

1047
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: can't be pesky when you've won three of the last

1048
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: five Super Bowls pesky and appeared in four of the

1049
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: last five, But I digress. Uh, So we are going

1050
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 2: to get back to the phones, but we do have

1051
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 2: open lines for you eight o three oh five fifty

1052
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty And

1053
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 2: got to get to some people that have been waiting patiently.

1054
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 2: We go to Blaine in Williamsville. Here, what do you

1055
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 2: got for his Blaine?

1056
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 7: Okay, hey, guys, thanks for taking a call. I've been

1057
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 7: thinking about this for a while now, and I'm going

1058
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 7: to go off the board a little bit as to

1059
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 7: what I think they need. And I'm sure you know

1060
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 7: there'll be people disagreed, but looking at this season and

1061
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 7: then crystallized in the playoffs and culminating with the game

1062
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 7: last night, I think we need to upgrade the kicker.

1063
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,959
Speaker 7: I mean I just felt that he I just don't

1064
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 7: have confidence that if we had to try here out

1065
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 7: for a fifty plus field goal to win the game,

1066
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 7: he could do it. I mean, he couldn't make the

1067
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 7: forty four yard or let alone a fifty. And then

1068
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 7: I said, well, let me just see if it's just

1069
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 7: me or is there some objective stat that I could

1070
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 7: look at. So I just took a look at OL

1071
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 7: Football Focus Timer Bass's approval for field goal and extra

1072
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 7: points last year with sixty five percent, and I was

1073
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 7: shocked when I read that. I really was. That's in

1074
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 7: the bottom half of the league and there are fourteen

1075
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 7: kickers eighty percent or better in that same stat so

1076
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 7: I know it's not something that's you know, I don't

1077
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 7: think they're going to get rid of and believe me,

1078
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 7: I know, I don't know, but I don't think McDermott

1079
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 7: would do that. But I think if it comes down

1080
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 7: to it and we have to rely on him, he's

1081
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 7: already proven, at least to me, that he's unreliable and

1082
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 7: that's where I'm at. There are other things naturally, but

1083
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 7: that's one area. But I don't think it's going to change.

1084
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 3: Well, it's a fair enough point. I mean, the numbers

1085
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 3: don't lie. And when you look at around the league,

1086
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 3: you see other teams that you know, particularly in the AFC,

1087
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 3: like Butker and Justin Tuck for the Baltimore Ravens, Sucker Tucker,

1088
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 3: who is maybe the best guy ever. So at the

1089
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 3: top of the AFC, Yeah, you've got some guys that

1090
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 3: are pretty unique and special. Certainly Tyler Bass and Brownie

1091
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 3: and I talked about this in the preseason. This is

1092
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 3: the first year of Tyler Bass's career here. I think

1093
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,959
Speaker 3: this was his third year that they did not bring

1094
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 3: in any competition for him. They signed him to the

1095
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 3: extension and they didn't have a second key. They didn't

1096
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 3: have a second kicker to come in and even take it, take.

1097
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: Shots at it. So I think that could happen this year.

1098
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 3: I think that probably will happen this year. They're not

1099
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 3: going to go in and just be resigned to whatever

1100
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 3: Tyler Bass can give them. They're gonna I.

1101
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 2: Think they're gonna push him. I think he's there in

1102
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt to stay on the roster.

1103
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: They did just sign him to a contract extension last summer.

1104
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 2: But you're right, he is twelve of seventeen in the

1105
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: playoffs in his career on field goal attempts. That is

1106
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 2: not good enough, not if you want to advance in

1107
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 2: the postseason. Je we just talked earlier in the show

1108
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 2: about how tight these games are in the regular season.

1109
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: They're even tighter in the playoffs. You can't have a

1110
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: kicker who's twelve to seventeen. Again, I think he will

1111
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 2: get the benefit of the doubt because of his long

1112
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 2: track record of success prior to this season, but he

1113
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 2: had a down year and I think he'd be the

1114
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 2: first to tell you that he'll get the benefit of

1115
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 2: the doubt. But I would not be surprised if there

1116
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 2: is competition in training camp for him this summer.

1117
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And so yeah, I would. I would say you're right.

1118
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 3: And I'll say this too. The Bills have home playoff

1119
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 3: games most years, at least one, and you're kicking in Buffalo.

1120
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 3: And I'll say it again. The kick he missed against

1121
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 3: Kansas City, I went back in. You know, obviously I've

1122
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 3: looked at it a ton. He hit it right down

1123
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 3: the pipe and it got blown out of the going

1124
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 3: with the wind in the end where the wind is

1125
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 3: the least likely to affect it. The thing got blown wide.

1126
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 3: I mean it absolutely curved sideways. Now you got to

1127
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 3: know that if you got you got to go in

1128
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 3: there and kick enough. And he does, He and and

1129
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 3: all the punt um Sam Martin, they all go in

1130
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 3: there and they practice kicking during the week and then

1131
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 3: so they get the use to the wind. So there's

1132
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 3: no excuse for not knowing. Unless it was a strange

1133
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 3: win that night.

1134
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 2: You remember earlier in that game, his extra point didn't

1135
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 2: make it inside the right up right by much, right, But.

1136
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 3: He hit that right down the pipe and it it

1137
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 3: just got blown wide and that was the game done.

1138
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 3: You got to know that now. Having said that's why

1139
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 3: the reason I bring that up is because it's a

1140
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 3: tough place to kick in and you nobody wants to

1141
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 3: hear that because we kind of we play here, we

1142
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 3: know it and we like it. But it's a it's

1143
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 3: an issue. It's an issue in this stadium and in

1144
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 3: this region.

1145
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 2: Did the wind really blow it? The streamers aren't even

1146
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 2: moving on the top of the uprights there.

1147
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 3: Well, I know the thing curved and I don't his

1148
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 3: kicks don't usually slice. Yeah, so I yeah, I'm I

1149
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 3: was shocked at that. I thought he hit it right

1150
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 3: down the pipe and it didn't go through. I mean that,

1151
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 3: But you're right, I mean, uh, that is one aspect

1152
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 3: that you got to look at when you see these

1153
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 3: other teams in the AFC playoffs, justin Tucker and Butker,

1154
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 3: they've got outstanding kickers, and I think that's one of

1155
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 3: the conversations you have to have in the offseason. You've

1156
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 3: got to make sure Tyler bass is on his game.

1157
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 2: Let's go to Joe in Buffalo next, what's up Joe?

1158
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 6: He always say, you guys could great.

1159
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 4: Great show, Brownie. I loved the mix of facts and fury.

1160
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 4: I really love it. Yeah, I'm just a clarify now.

1161
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 11: Mahalmes three and one the Super Bowls.

1162
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 4: As well launches to Brady.

1163
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, now give me the numbers.

1164
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 4: Is he likes to lose a Brady first was the

1165
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 4: all lose one win three years.

1166
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 3: With Yeah, I think they they won one, right, No,

1167
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 3: I think they lost to Brady won and then one.

1168
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 4: The last three.

1169
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 2: No, you're right, the Rams won one in there.

1170
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 11: You know.

1171
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 13: So okay, so upgrading, Like, uh, my concern is who

1172
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 13: can do it quicker? Because you know, with all things

1173
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 13: being equal, you know, this is a NASCAR and we

1174
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 13: got Mahomes versus al and driving and I agree with you,

1175
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 13: Mahomes just has a decision making edge and add insult

1176
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 13: to injury. That picture of the locker room is just

1177
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,479
Speaker 13: he kidney. He has to work out and he's great.

1178
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 4: Uh, but like if they get ahead of us, I'm improving.

1179
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 4: I mean, you know there could be injuries. Things happened

1180
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 4: and going back the sup Bowl kicking thing. I start

1181
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 4: going into the KC game, man, like we we this

1182
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 4: might come down the kicks, and there was other things happened.

1183
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 4: But uh, you know, ka uplate quicker and you know,

1184
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 4: I'm just wondering what your thoughts on who can do

1185
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 4: better quicker case you versus Bufflow on the upgrade, because

1186
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 4: I know I'm just curious.

1187
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 2: As we laid out for you Joe earlier in the show,

1188
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 2: the Chiefs have just as many notable free agents as

1189
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 2: the Bills, if not more so. I mean they got

1190
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 2: a frontline player and Chris Jones, who is a free

1191
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 2: agent now, he may decide if I don't get bowled

1192
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 2: over by an offer on the free agent market and

1193
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 2: I want to win another ring, I go right back

1194
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: to Kansas City as long as the money's reasonable. You know,

1195
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 2: that's the other feather in the cap that the Chiefs have.

1196
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 2: They're the top banana. You want to keep winning rings,

1197
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 2: come back and play here. You know, that's the allure

1198
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 2: that the Chiefs have. Free agents will be interested in

1199
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 2: coming there and may take a little less money to

1200
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 2: do it. So from that standpoint, maybe they have a

1201
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 2: little bit of an edge. But I think Buffalo's roster

1202
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 2: is going to turn over a lot more than we're

1203
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 2: used to seeing in terms of household names no longer

1204
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 2: being on this roster. There's already been talk of a

1205
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 2: youth movement for two reasons. One Bills are up against

1206
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 2: the cap. Two they need to get younger. They were

1207
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 2: like the fifth oldest roster in the league last year,

1208
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 2: and I think you saw some of that towards the

1209
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 2: end of the season with a lot of the injuries

1210
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 2: that they incurred at the absolute wrong time and it

1211
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 2: made them vulnerable, particularly on the defensive side of the ball.

1212
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 2: So I think there will be a youth movement. You're

1213
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 2: gonna have to rely on the development skills of your coaches,

1214
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: where if those young players who are thrust into larger

1215
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 2: roles might not be ready at the beginning of the season,

1216
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 2: come the second half of the season in the playoffs,

1217
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 2: they're ready to roll and really contribute. And I think

1218
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 2: that young defense of the Chief Steve.

1219
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 3: It was a factor.

1220
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 2: Come the fifth quarter, that defense was still playing pretty

1221
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 2: darn good football on the defensive side of the ball.

1222
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 2: Why Because they're all second and third of year guys

1223
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty five years old. They can play

1224
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:50,919
Speaker 2: a fifth quarter and not lose much.

1225
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 3: That's right. If you are wondering. The Chiefs beat San

1226
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 3: Francisco in fifty four, then that was their first super

1227
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 3: back in it after you know, from Super Bowl three.

1228
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 3: Then they lost to Break then they then they lost

1229
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 3: to Brady the next year. Then the Cincinnati Bengals went

1230
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 3: and lost to the Rams. Now the Chiefs have won

1231
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 3: the last two the Chiefs, remember the New England Patriots

1232
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 3: went in Super Bowl fifty three. That's the one where

1233
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 3: the chief The Chiefs should have beaten the d Ford.

1234
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 2: Yes, the Ford is offside and the gates an interception

1235
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 2: by Brady. They killed the clock when the AFC Title

1236
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 2: game go and.

1237
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 3: They Yes, so the Chiefs could very well have been

1238
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 3: in four of the last six Super Bowls, just like

1239
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 3: the just like the nineteen seventies Pittsburgh Steelers.

1240
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 2: Five of the last six. They've been in four of

1241
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 2: the last five.

1242
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 3: Yes, they would have been five of the last six.

1243
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is an offside penalty away.

1244
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 3: If it weren't from Ford Ford lining up off sides.

1245
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is an offside penalty away from being in

1246
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 2: five Super Bowls in six years as a starter.

1247
01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 6: That's right.

1248
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 3: He's only been in four now, so there. Yeah, that's

1249
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 3: the world we live in, folks.

1250
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's going to continue. Let's go to Joe

1251
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 2: Downtown on a sale. We got Joe.

1252
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 10: Hey, I wanted to talk a little bit more about

1253
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 10: that defense. I'm sure you know a lot more of

1254
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 10: an I do, but it's fine understanding. I think about

1255
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 10: two years ago when they traded Tyreek Hill, accumulated a

1256
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 10: bunch of draft picks and became either the youngest or

1257
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 10: one of the youngest defenses in the NFL.

1258
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 11: My thought is they kind of.

1259
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 10: Had the philosophy that they had Patrick Malmes, the offense

1260
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 10: is going to be okay, and by getting a young

1261
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 10: defense like that that through was it twenty games or

1262
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 10: at twenty games, no team scored thirty points on them

1263
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 10: the entire year. If I'm right, and that's.

1264
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 4: What I'm thinking that we need to do.

1265
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 10: We've got Josh Allen, We're returning our entire offense from

1266
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 10: last year, with the exception of Gabe Davis. Why don't

1267
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 10: we load up on a bunch of salary, high ceiling

1268
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 10: defenders to give Josh Allen a lot of room for air.

1269
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 10: I love your comments on that strategy because I think

1270
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 10: the chief strategy, I think they out smart the NFL

1271
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 10: year in and year out.

1272
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Bret Viach is a very good GM.

1273
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 2: He does a very good job of reconstructing the roster.

1274
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 2: They went all in on defense because they have Mahomes

1275
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 2: on offense and felt they could do more with less

1276
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 2: on that side of the ball with an elite decision

1277
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 2: maker at quarterback, and they rebuilt their defense chiefly on

1278
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 2: the back end with I mean they drafted three corners

1279
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 2: two years ago in Jalen Watson, Josh Williams, and Trent McDuffie,

1280
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 2: who was their first round pick in his first team

1281
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:42,479
Speaker 2: All Pro in his second season in the NFL first

1282
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 2: team All Pro. So they not only drafted, they drafted

1283
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 2: well because all three of those guys play on defense.

1284
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 2: And then they filled in the safeties with some affordable

1285
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 2: free agents. They drafted Nick Bolton, that's a hit. He's

1286
01:06:56,320 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 2: a great middle linebacker. And then they have Lee Oceanal,

1287
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 2: who was you know, a day two, day three, early

1288
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 2: day three draft choice, I want to say, kid out

1289
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 2: of Wisconsin. Good role player for them. And then up

1290
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 2: front they drafted Karl Loftis in the first round last

1291
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,919
Speaker 2: year or two years ago. And good player as well,

1292
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Speaker 2: pass rusher. You know, he was right there with Chris

1293
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 2: Jones as leader on the team in sacks. So yeah,

1294
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 2: they did a good job retooling their defense, and I

1295
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 2: think the Bills will to some degree do that just

1296
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 2: because of the dearth of players up front. Eight of

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01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 2: their twelve defensive linemen are free agents. Just from a

1298
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 2: sheer numbers perspective, they're gonna have to draft and get

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01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 2: younger there because those are high priced positions. But make

1300
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 2: no mistake about it, they need weapons on offense. As

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Speaker 2: Steve has mentioned Stefan Diggs entering his age thirty season.

1302
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 2: He's tailed off each of the last two years in

1303
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 2: the second half of the season. You need an alpha

1304
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 2: male on the outside receiver, and you preferably get that

1305
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 2: in the first round, and then I tell you you

1306
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 2: draft another one in round three to stretch the field

1307
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 2: for you. You have to fight fire with fire here

1308
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 2: because you've tried to do it with an elite defense.

1309
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 2: So did the Ravens, so did the Niners against the Chiefs.

1310
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 2: Guess what didn't work? Get more weapons, Just outscore them,

1311
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 2: so it doesn't matter.

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01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, We've talked about it as well as you look

1313
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 3: around the league at other guys, other teams who have

1314
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 3: had elite quarterbacks. Even in Green Bay when they had

1315
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, it was famously they didn't have a number

1316
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 3: one wide receiver. They never drafted one of the first round.

1317
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 3: All the stuff that we expect the Bills do this year,

1318
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 3: and the Chiefs now did that again. In fact, they

1319
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 3: gutted the wide receiver room when they they let Tyreek

1320
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 3: walk out the door.

1321
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 2: Didn't resign Jujuy.

1322
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 3: They lean on an elite quarterback to elevate the guys

1323
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 3: around them on offensive side of the ball, and they

1324
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 3: put the money around the rest of the roster, and

1325
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,560
Speaker 3: they expect, you know that that's how they do it.

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Speaker 3: Do the Bills do that and continue to do that?

1327
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 3: I don't know. We haven't. Brownie and I are sitting

1328
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 3: here thinking we're like the fans were they no give

1329
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 3: Josh go with offense. But it's been done around And

1330
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 3: let's face it, the Packers were in the playoffs and

1331
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 3: going deep in the playoffs a lot with Aaron Rodgers

1332
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 3: and a bunch of guys, although they didn't you know,

1333
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 3: I mean, they did you know, find some really good

1334
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Speaker 3: wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Here's the Packers the last two drafts. Okay, because Jordan

1336
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 2: Love comes in as a first year starter by the

1337
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 2: middle of the season takes off. Why here are the

1338
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 2: drafts the last two years. Round one, they go linebacker

1339
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 2: defensive tackle. In twenty twenty two, Round two, Christian Watson

1340
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 2: wide receiver, Round three, o line Round four, Romeo Dobbs

1341
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 2: wide receiver. Last year, round one, they get an edge rusher.

1342
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 2: Round two. Luke Musgrave tight end, pass catching tight end,

1343
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 2: Jaden Reid wide receiver out of Michigan State. Round three,

1344
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 2: Tucker Craft tight end, pass catching tight end out of

1345
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 2: South Dakota. Round five don Tavian Wicks, big outside wide

1346
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 2: out out of Virginia. In round five, all of them

1347
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 2: played youngest of in football, and they upset Dallas on

1348
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 2: the road and should have beaten San Francisco were it

1349
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 2: not for what a missed field goal and they lose

1350
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 2: twenty one to seventeen in the NFC title Game. I'm

1351
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 2: telling you, get some weapons. Ravens did the same thing.

1352
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 2: Ravens go to the AFC title game. Okay, twenty twenty one,

1353
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 2: Round one, Rashad Bateman, wide receiver, twenty twenty two, Round one, safety,

1354
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 2: oh lineman, Round two edge, round three defensive tackle. So

1355
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 2: they don't do anything in wide receiver. In twenty twenty

1356
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 2: two twenty twenty three draft z A. Flowers round one.

1357
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 2: They also signed Odell Beckham Junior and Nelson Agualore in

1358
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 2: free agency. Laar Jackson is the best passing season of

1359
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 2: his career and they go to the AFC title game.

1360
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 2: Get Josh weapons please. I'm not saying neglect defense, but

1361
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,560
Speaker 2: he needs more weapons, especially with Diggs now in his

1362
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 2: age thirty season and Gabe Davis not expected back because

1363
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 2: he's gonna cost too much on the free agent market.

1364
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 2: You gotta get him help.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So there you go, and uh, I think they

1366
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 3: got to Max. Here's the thing. You got to get

1367
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 3: these guys whoever you get, they've got to outperform their contract.

1368
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 3: The Bills are fifty two million dollars down on the cap.

1369
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 3: They're the second worst team in the league and salary cap.

1370
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 3: According to some of the websites you go to, behind

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01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 3: the New Orleans Saints are the only ones that are

1372
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 3: in worst cap jail than the Bills are. And you

1373
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 3: got to get these guys to perform better than their contracts. Now,

1374
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 3: you know what's the best way to do that? Find

1375
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 3: the best players you can. But let's face it, there's

1376
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 3: a void here at two. There's two glaring voys. Defensive

1377
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 3: line is one of them, of course, and that's just

1378
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 3: because you don't even have any warm bodies there, let

1379
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 3: alone guys who can play really well for.

1380
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 2: Your twelve defensive linemen are under countract.

1381
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 3: And then, of course then it's the number two wide

1382
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 3: out where Gabe David's gonna be a free agent.

1383
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 2: And somebody's gonna pay them.

1384
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 3: You need you need somebody. You've got to have somebody

1385
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 3: on the field to balance the field away from Steph Diggs.

1386
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 2: And someone with a higher catch rate than fifty six

1387
01:11:58,760 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 2: percent you gotta have.

1388
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 3: And so when you go into the draft, you can

1389
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 3: say what you want to about who you need to

1390
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 3: draft or who you are you gotta have, and I

1391
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 3: you forget. They're gonna make it. They're gonna get cap

1392
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 3: compliant with some maneuverings that you can do every year.

1393
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,600
Speaker 3: They're gonna give guys their money upfront and so they

1394
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 3: can get underneath the cap. But they're still not gonna

1395
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 3: have all kinds of money to spend in free agency,

1396
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 3: but you can bet they'll start to bring in some

1397
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 3: bodies to fill out the roster before the draft, so

1398
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 3: at least they can say, Okay, at least we've got

1399
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 3: enough guys that can actually line up. Whether they can

1400
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 3: play or not, we're gonna have to find out. That's

1401
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 3: kind of the way it looks.

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01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 5: This year.

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01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 3: Hasn't always been that way, but it is this year.

1404
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just hope we get enough. I hope

1405
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 3: we can have fifty three guys that we can suit up.

1406
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 3: But in the draft, you've you gotta hit it. Yeah,

1407
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 3: bro Sleeve, you you gotta get some players.

1408
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,600
Speaker 2: And Brandon being said as much, we really have to

1409
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 2: hit in this draft. He said, you have to do

1410
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 2: it every year, but this year in particular, we really

1411
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 2: have to strike gold there because he knows, based on

1412
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 2: their cap situation, they're going to be limited in what

1413
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 2: they can add in free agency. You have to nail

1414
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 2: the draft, have to, and he's picking twenty eighth. That's

1415
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 2: a tall task even for somebody as a stute and

1416
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 2: accomplished as Brandon being in his personnel department. You know,

1417
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 2: Brian Gain, Terrence Gray, those guys know what they're doing,

1418
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 2: I mean, run down the list. You know, Lake Dawson,

1419
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 2: Malik Boyd, that whole crew has been killing it in

1420
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 2: the draft since they got here. They gotta nail it

1421
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 2: and do it picking way down on the board. That

1422
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 2: is not easy, and they've they've done it successfully the

1423
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 2: last several years.

1424
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 3: Know this though, it's not easy, but you know that

1425
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 3: there are gonna be players on that board that are

1426
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 3: going to be great players at twenty eight, at ninety nine,

1427
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 3: at all these I've been listing this. I've been listing

1428
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 3: this draft order for Buffalo for like a week now.

1429
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 3: They've got They've got the twenty eighth pick, the sixtieth pick,

1430
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 3: and the ninety ninth pick. All three of those guys

1431
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 3: are gonna be wearing Buffalo Bills jerseys and on the

1432
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 3: field this season they got to be.

1433
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 2: Well, and they were this past year. Yes, I mean

1434
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 2: Dorian Williams was a role player. Osiris Torrents started all

1435
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,520
Speaker 2: seventeen games. Dalton kin Kid set a record for receptions

1436
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 2: by a tight end in a season for the Bills.

1437
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 2: So you do that again, you might be able to

1438
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 2: get over on the Chiefs. Just make sure two of

1439
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 2: them are receivers.

1440
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 3: And I told Brent, I said, if they if they

1441
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:21,640
Speaker 3: don't take a receiver first in this draft at twenty eight,

1442
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 3: and they take a defensive tackle, let's say I can

1443
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 3: live with that they're gonna take Instead of drafting two

1444
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 3: guys in the top three rounds, I think they'll take three.

1445
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 3: I think they'll go ride wide receiver at sixty, wide

1446
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 3: receiver at ninety nine, and then wide receiver at like

1447
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 3: one sixty one, one ninety seven, something like that. I

1448
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 3: think they come out with three wide outs in this

1449
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 3: draft class. Wow, if they don't take one in the

1450
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:46,759
Speaker 3: first round, if they take one in the first round,

1451
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 3: then it's then that's kind of a that's kind of

1452
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 3: an elixir. That guy's gonna be a kind of guy

1453
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 3: that you can expect is gonna be good enough to

1454
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 3: step up and go. But if they don't, then you

1455
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 3: got some maybe and then it's maybe maybe an and

1456
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,560
Speaker 3: then you gotta have more guys to choose from. So

1457
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 3: I'm that's where I'm at. If they don't take one,

1458
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 3: what they do.

1459
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 2: In free agency too, might get some veteran guys on

1460
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 2: one year deals.

1461
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, you go to the free eight

1462
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 3: and I know this too. They're all expensive or whatever.

1463
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what. You go to the free

1464
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 3: agent lists at every receiver, at every position, receiver, defensive tackle,

1465
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 3: it's like oh wow, yeah, okay, it's like there's some guys. Yeah,

1466
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 3: but then it's like how much. Yeah, then that's the

1467
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 3: next Kenny for them. So we'll see do they want

1468
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 3: to play with Josh or not?

1469
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the big question. Gotta take a break here.

1470
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:35,759
Speaker 2: What are the Bills need to add to get ahead

1471
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 2: of those Chiefs? The Super Bowl champs once again? When

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Speaker 2: we come back. More of your phone calls standon Niagara Falls,

1473
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 2: Mark and West Seneca. We'll get to you when we

1474
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 2: return here on One Bills Live presented by co Lot

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Speaker 2: of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, what are

1476
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:54,640
Speaker 2: the Bills need to add to get ahead of the

1477
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 2: Chiefs next season? Eight oh three, oh five fifty one,

1478
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 2: eight eight eighty five, fifty two five fifty open lines

1479
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 2: for you there. But we lead off this segment with

1480
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 2: Stan and Niagara Falls. What's up Stan?

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01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 4: Guys?

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01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 11: Thanks for having me out.

1483
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 2: Sure you bet. You know.

1484
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 8: One of the things that the Chiefs have and what

1485
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 8: they utilize of Patrick Mahomes is an optical advantage. Now,

1486
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 8: I don't know who the science behind it, but if

1487
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 8: you notice all the pass catchers on the Chiefs, the

1488
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 8: running backs, the tight ends, they're whiteout. They're all running

1489
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 8: around with the big yellow gloves on, and nobody else

1490
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 8: on their offense has those big yellow gloves on. And

1491
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 8: when Patrick Mahomes is under duress, I can guarantee you

1492
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 8: he has an optical advantage by not having to look

1493
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 8: for helmets and look for uniforms. He's hitting those looks.

1494
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 8: Those are his markers. And there's a science behind it,

1495
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 8: and they're utilizing it and they're taking full advantage science.

1496
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:52,640
Speaker 8: I know for a fact that a lot of professional athletes,

1497
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 8: when they've taken heads or they're not out of their game,

1498
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 8: or they've had different injuries, they go for some kind

1499
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 8: of like optical training for hand eye coordination and they

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Speaker 8: do different speed tests. And I'm just I'm just throwing

1501
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 8: it out there that I'm they that I bet you

1502
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 8: they have Patrick Mahomes doing some kind of optical training

1503
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:15,440
Speaker 8: using those big yellow gloves somehow and hitting the targets

1504
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 8: or some kind of like like speed athletic training, something

1505
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 8: really scientific. Because when you see those guys out there

1506
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 8: and he's got all those defensive linemen coming down on

1507
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 8: him or he's running.

1508
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, say this station you might be onto something. They

1509
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 3: get they get a break because they can have yellow

1510
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 3: gloves other than anybody. I'll say this, there is uh,

1511
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,600
Speaker 3: there are optical cues when you look around. I'm I

1512
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 3: would be surprised if Mahomes is training with yellow gloves,

1513
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 3: as you know visual cues, because.

1514
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 2: Nicole Hartmon didn't wear yellow gloves.

1515
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 3: Last right when you drop when you drop back, hit

1516
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 3: him with fifty seven yard pas. I'll say this, when

1517
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 3: you when you come out of your break as a

1518
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,600
Speaker 3: wide receiver, you turn around, you look for optically, you

1519
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 3: got to find the quarterback because you turn around the pot,

1520
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,959
Speaker 3: it's all the offensive linemen, all the defensive linemen, whoever's

1521
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 3: out there up in the pocket. You've got to look

1522
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 3: through there and discern where the QB is so you

1523
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 3: can find the quarterback. Make some eye contact if you can,

1524
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 3: or watch where look where he's looking and find out

1525
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 3: what you know and get your visual cues that way. Certainly,

1526
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,759
Speaker 3: Mahomes may be aided by the fact that the Chiefs

1527
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 3: have red jerseys. Red helmets or whatever. The Bills famously

1528
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:35,600
Speaker 3: switched from white helmets to red helmets because you know,

1529
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 3: you had the Patriots with white helmets, the Dolphins with

1530
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 3: white helmets. At the time, the Jets had white helmets

1531
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 3: as well, so the Bills changed to red ones to

1532
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 3: make it easier for the quarterback to pick up. So

1533
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 3: there's probably something in there. I don't know that it's

1534
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 3: an unfair advantage. And plus you got to know this too,

1535
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 3: Josh and Pat Mahomes and Brock Purdy and all every

1536
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 3: quarterback in the league. They train themselves through every day

1537
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 3: of practice getting those picking up those visual cues. I

1538
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 3: don't think there's a I don't think they're using it

1539
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,759
Speaker 3: to their advantage or whatever. They got an extra special

1540
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 3: advantage because the guys trained themselves with whatever visual cues

1541
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 3: they have, and you know that's what they look for.

1542
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 3: So I think I think it goes way deeper than

1543
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 3: yellow gloves. Any quarter why Pat Mahomes is really good.

1544
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,759
Speaker 2: I think any quarterback would tell you they read body

1545
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 2: language on receiving targets more than anything else. And just

1546
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 2: so you know, Valdaz Scanling was the only guy wearing

1547
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 2: yellow gloves last night. Nicole Hardman had white gloves, Travis

1548
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 2: Kelcey had red gloves. Noah Gray the other tight end

1549
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,640
Speaker 2: white gloves. Valdas Scanling, at least to my knowledge, was

1550
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 2: the only guy wearing yellow gloves yesterday. So for what

1551
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 2: it's worth, let's go to Mark in West Seneca.

1552
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 3: What do you have for us?

1553
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 2: Mark?

1554
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 14: Very good afternoon, guys. That's an interesting conversation. That's not

1555
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 14: why I called about, but real ques Stan might be

1556
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 14: onto something. The greatest player in hockey. Famously, his dad

1557
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 14: told stories about how when he was a youth, he

1558
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,679
Speaker 14: would give him a notepad and have him watch games

1559
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 14: and then chart and write down what he was looking

1560
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 14: at and what he saw around, what was going on

1561
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 14: on the ice. And if you don't know anything about

1562
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 14: Wayne Gretzky, his biggest strength in the course of his

1563
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,560
Speaker 14: career was everybody always said he always seemed to know

1564
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 14: where everybody was on the ice and was able to

1565
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 14: feed past us to him. So that maybe be something

1566
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 14: to that, the optical training type of thing. But that's

1567
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 14: not what I was calling guys. What I called about

1568
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 14: is I got two questions for you. I think the

1569
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 14: Bills are going wide receiver number one so I'm curious

1570
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 14: if you guys know or if you believe as far

1571
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 14: as the wide receiver goes, I believe they're going for

1572
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 14: speed first and foremost. Are they going to go for

1573
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:51,600
Speaker 14: a big guy who can get down the field or

1574
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 14: you think they'd be born inclined to go to maybe

1575
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 14: a guy who's a little smaller, a little bit more twitchy,

1576
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 14: who could exploit the middle of the field with his speed.

1577
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 14: And as far as the defensive side of the ball, Brownie,

1578
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 14: I'm gonna put pressure on you until the draft comes,

1579
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 14: and I know, again it's early. Is there anybody, realistically,

1580
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 14: not some crazy thing, that you think a guy in

1581
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 14: the top five or ten might fall down to twenty eight?

1582
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 14: On defense? Is there anybody in a draft that you've

1583
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 14: come across yet that you might say, hmm, that guy's there.

1584
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 14: The Bills may be more inclined to take that defensive

1585
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,640
Speaker 14: player over a wide receiver. And lastly, I'll just make

1586
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 14: a quick comment on the offense versus defense. If you

1587
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 14: look at the final four this year, three of the

1588
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 14: four teams had great defenses last night. If without Kansas

1589
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 14: City's defense, Patrick's not anywhere near the playoffs, much less

1590
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:48,719
Speaker 14: winning the Super Bowl this year. Granted he's a great player. Secondly,

1591
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 14: he only scored twenty five points last night. The Bills

1592
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:56,759
Speaker 14: have been able to hang with Kansas City offensively for years.

1593
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 14: Where we falter all the time is defensively. We have

1594
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 14: not been able to get the stops more importantly when

1595
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 14: we need them, So we can't. You said it earlier,

1596
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 14: Brownie can't neglect defense, and I think it's going to

1597
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 14: be a heavily drafted defense this year. Get us two

1598
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 14: or three wideouts, but beyond that, we got to really

1599
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 14: show up our defense. Thanks guys.

1600
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 2: Yep, thanks Mark, and yeah, I wasn't giving indication they

1601
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 2: need to they would neglect defense, and I don't think

1602
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 2: they will. As we mentioned, from a sheer numbers perspective,

1603
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 2: they need defensive linemen, both defensive tackle and on the

1604
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 2: edge because they only have four of their twelve players

1605
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 2: that were on their defensive line this year that are

1606
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 2: under contract for next year. So from a sheer numbers perspective,

1607
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 2: they have to address it. When you're picking twenty eight,

1608
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,680
Speaker 2: you often don't get to decide what position you're going

1609
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 2: to address in round one, two or three, so you

1610
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 2: kind of have to react to how the board falls

1611
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 2: in front of you, and then try to get the

1612
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 2: best value. Naturally, you'd prefer to gravitate to some of

1613
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 2: those need positions, like defensive tack or like wide receiver,

1614
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 2: but you may not have the opportunity to do so

1615
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,600
Speaker 2: when you pick twenty eighth. Every single round, which is

1616
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 2: what the Bills are faced with, guys that I think

1617
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 2: could be there at twenty eight at defensive tackle, you

1618
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 2: got Leonard Taylor out of University of Miami, more of

1619
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 2: a penetrating style guy six x three, three oh five.

1620
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,640
Speaker 2: Byron Murphy, the kid at Texas, is a guy that

1621
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 2: figures to be there. Some people feel he's more of

1622
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:30,640
Speaker 2: a round two prospect. Everybody talks about Tovandre Sweat, but

1623
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 2: Byron Murphy is a pretty impressive player who lines up

1624
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 2: next to him. A little bit shorter, kind of built

1625
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 2: a little bit more like a poona Ford type who

1626
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,600
Speaker 2: also came out of Texas, by the way, but I

1627
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 2: like him. And then maybe in round two, if you

1628
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 2: have to go there at defensive tackle, does Chris Jenkins

1629
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 2: slept far enough, you know, from Michigan to draft. Perhaps

1630
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 2: Brandon Dorles is another kid out of Oregon that's a

1631
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 2: good player on the defensive interior. So yeah, I mean,

1632
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 2: we're a long way from the draft. Let's see how

1633
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 2: Brandon being in his personnel department fill in the holes

1634
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:07,679
Speaker 2: in free agency, you know, before we really start drilling

1635
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 2: down on the draft, because I think they're gonna you

1636
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 2: hear Brandon Bean saying every offseason we try to fill

1637
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 2: as many holes as we can through free agency so

1638
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 2: we're not forced to lean towards a position in the draft,

1639
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 2: because then you run the risk of reaching for somebody

1640
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 2: that maybe you wouldn't if you did capably fill a

1641
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 2: lot of holes.

1642
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 3: Yes, it's the old saying you need is a terrible evaluator.

1643
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 3: So you just take the best of what guy plays

1644
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 3: a position you've got to have, and that not always

1645
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 3: the guy that's going to have the best pro career.

1646
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 3: And that's when they say best player available, that's really

1647
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 3: what they're talking about. You've got a guy here that's

1648
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 3: going to be okay, maybe hang around for a year

1649
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 3: or two, maybe on the practice squad, And you've got

1650
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 3: a guy over here playing a position you may not

1651
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 3: need that much, but he's gonna have it. This guy

1652
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 3: can play, he's going to be a starter. He's going

1653
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 3: to be on the verge of a Pro Bowl quality player,

1654
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 3: you know, an NFL player for a decade. And there

1655
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 3: are two completely different positions, and you need the one

1656
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 3: guy that's only gonna you know, only just okay. But

1657
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 3: this guy over here is going to be a ten

1658
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 3: year pro. You almost got to take the ten year

1659
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 3: pro even though it's the spot you don't need that.

1660
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 3: That's the kind of balance you got to strike. And

1661
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 3: it's frustrating for gms and coaches never to have it.

1662
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 3: And that's why it's so hard to get a quarterback.

1663
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 3: I mean, those guys don't come along very often. When

1664
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 3: they do, they never fall to you. You never you know,

1665
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 3: you got, you got. You got to be in the

1666
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 3: right spot at the right time and the right year

1667
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 3: and the right generation, and all the evaluations got to

1668
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 3: fall in line because the guy may not evaluate like

1669
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 3: a like Pat Mahomes. He may not evaluate like a

1670
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 3: go Ten teams passed on Mahomes and the Bills traded

1671
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 3: to pick you know, they thought, hey, he's a good player,

1672
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,600
Speaker 3: but I don't know, you know, everybody was like that.

1673
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 3: And then Mahomes and Reid get together and all of

1674
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 3: a sudden, it's you know, it's historic.

1675
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's.

1676
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 3: Tough.

1677
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 7: Man.

1678
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 2: Just it's hard for me because I'm I just watched

1679
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 2: Mahomes go to these Super Bowls and I get flashbacks

1680
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 2: to the Jordan years in the NBA.

1681
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you got his.

1682
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 2: Talent and ability and decision making just block out the sun,

1683
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 2: like there's no room for anybody else. I want to

1684
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 2: believe there is, But the more he keeps winning, it's

1685
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 2: hard for me to maintain the faith that he's going

1686
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 2: to allow anybody else to squeeze into the Super Bowl.

1687
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:35,640
Speaker 3: From the AFS, you know, Jeff Koltenak, you know, he

1688
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 3: relayed this from Kevin Clark from US. It's Mahomes is

1689
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 3: kind of like Jordan, because Michael Jordan played for I

1690
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 3: don't know how many years, and while he was playing

1691
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 3: in the league, everybody else was compared to him. There

1692
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 3: was nobody who was nobody else was considered the best

1693
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 3: player in the league except Michael Jordan. And I think

1694
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 3: Mahomes is getting to the point where it's hard to

1695
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 3: have any room in that conversation except for him. He's

1696
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 3: he's he sucks the air out of the room, and

1697
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 3: that's kind of the area that you're living in, and

1698
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 3: you know you don't have to like it, but you

1699
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:12,600
Speaker 3: know you've got to find a way to contend with it.

1700
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 3: And that's what falls to guys like Brandon Bean and

1701
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 3: the guys in Baltimore and the guys in Cincinnati and

1702
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 3: all these teams everywhere. You got to find a way

1703
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 3: to compete with that guy. And now in football, it's

1704
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 3: more of that group. I mean, it's Andy Reid, it's

1705
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey's Trav, and it's you know, Pat Mahomes. There's

1706
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 3: a little bit bigger circle of trust than just Mike

1707
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 3: Jordan and Scottie Pippen, Right, But that's what you're in

1708
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 3: that's what you're in for, and you got to find

1709
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 3: a way to get there.

1710
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 2: Break time for us here. We'll get some final thoughts

1711
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 2: on the tweet seet when we return here on One

1712
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,000
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Speaker 2: Bill's Radio. What do the Bills need to add to

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Speaker 2: get ahead of the Chiefs? So we go to the

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Speaker 2: tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, official

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01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 2: equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Matt says the

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Speaker 2: defense to actually stay healthy in the playoff. That's it.

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01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 2: That's all they need. Mike says, there were three plays

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01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 2: in the last game that, had they gone differently, the

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01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:22,680
Speaker 2: Bills would have blown out the Chiefs. I don't know,

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01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 2: but blowout. Cooks dropped a walk in. Cook dropped a

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01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:28,599
Speaker 2: walk in touchdown, Digs let a bomb go through his hands,

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01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 2: and Jones bumps Allen preventing a sure TD. Bobby says,

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01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 2: get Shakir the ball more. Jordan says, won't matter who

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01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 2: they add. The Bills have been good enough to beat

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Speaker 2: Casey the last three years. It always comes down to

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01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 2: three to four crucial plays in a game against them.

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Speaker 2: Just need to be on the right side of those.

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Speaker 2: And then d Lava says, I think they need to

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01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 2: add more firepower on offense to beat the Chiefs in

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01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 2: their current version. You must be able to score early

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01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 2: and often. Don't let them play these low scoring ball

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01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 2: possession games as they almost always find a way to

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01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 2: win them. And Lucifer says, first round receiver move up

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Speaker 2: if possible.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to score on this Chiefs defense, though, too.

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Speaker 3: You think it's all about Mahomes and Kelsey and all

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Speaker 3: that they scored twenty five points in overtime to win.

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Speaker 3: This defense is hard to run up to score on

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Speaker 3: in Kansas City. Now you got to attack it as

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Speaker 3: its own animal and see what the iteration you're gonna

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Speaker 3: get this next year. Make your team as good as

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Speaker 3: it can be, and then see what you can do.

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Speaker 2: Bills did score the most points on this Chiefs defense

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01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,559
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. They scored twenty four in the divisional round.

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01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 2: Ravens had ten, Miami had seven, and in overtime the

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Speaker 2: Niners only managed twenty two. That's it for us today.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: One