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Speaker 2: I never start my show with a card, but I'm

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Speaker 2: starting the show with a card today.

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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Speaker 2: Okay, my guest today the most decorated female skier of

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Speaker 2: all time. Eighty two World Cup wins, twenty World Cup titles,

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Speaker 2: three Olympic gold medals.

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Speaker 1: Tell me, Lindsay, if any of this is wrong, a

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Speaker 1: little wrong, I'm correct me as I go, be like

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Speaker 1: my hype.

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Speaker 3: Girl, tell me the correct twenty world gig titles, three

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Speaker 3: Olympic medals. Yeah, you got the twenty titles, three Olympic

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Speaker 3: men on. All of them are gold. I mean, like,

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Speaker 3: we could fudge that, but you can say it. I

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Speaker 3: didn't say it. Okay, and someone broke my record, but

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Speaker 3: I'm still the greatest downhiller of all time. Okay, we can, like,

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Speaker 3: you know, we can maneuver that. But here's its relatively close.

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Speaker 1: No, I like the seven World Championship medals.

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Speaker 3: I think it's eight.

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Speaker 1: Talk that shit.

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Speaker 2: Lindsay author, philanthropists and overall badass Lindsay Vaughn is here today.

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, hi, Lindsay I'm so happy you're here.

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy you asked me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Yeah, I was.

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Speaker 2: I DM Lindsay and I said, hey, you want to

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Speaker 2: be slid to her dam I was like, hey, boo, would.

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Speaker 1: You consider me on my podcast? She was like, I

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Speaker 1: love center.

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Speaker 2: I'm in Yeah, I love that. So our first meeting,

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Speaker 2: do you remember when we first met. Was it PR's

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Speaker 2: spring Hill, So all the spring Hill guys were there,

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Speaker 2: Rich Paul Mav who works with lebron Uh and Lindsay

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Speaker 2: and I were at this long dinner table and we

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Speaker 2: sat across from each other, and I have to be honest,

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Speaker 2: I didn't I.

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Speaker 3: Didn't know who you were either.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: We just talked for like hours.

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Speaker 2: We didn't know who each other were. We just on

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Speaker 2: a human level, just started chatting. And then you I

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Speaker 2: had I was what I was years ago, so I

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Speaker 2: was probably fresh off of like car accident. I was

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Speaker 2: Told you how to broke my back, and then you

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Speaker 2: got into oh, well I broke my this, and I broke.

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Speaker 1: My that, and I broke and then so now we're across.

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Speaker 2: The table talking about our injuries, and I was like, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: so anyway, so yeah, because I was in a car accident,

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Speaker 2: so how'd you get your injuries?

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Speaker 1: And he was like, you know, I'm a skier.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, you're a skier. And as I

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Speaker 2: say that, MAV walks.

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Speaker 1: By and he goes and she's the greatest skier of

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Speaker 1: all time. I was like, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: And then I became obsessed with you, and then watched

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Speaker 2: a documentary which was beautiful than you, and I kind

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Speaker 3: It's okay, I watched them, so you should be.

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Speaker 2: Let's start there. Let's start with your ability to well

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Speaker 2: So, I'm thinking I'm talking to a like like a

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Speaker 3: No, it's true, honestly, probably car accidents worse.

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Speaker 1: And because there's trump with there's trauma in that. But

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm actually a little bit weird in

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Speaker 3: I think it honestly just comes from perspective from my mom.

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Speaker 3: And so I had this perspective of Okay, I'm out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty great because I fat and it's inspiring

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Speaker 1: Life and all types of stuff.

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Speaker 2: But I realize now, just now four years later, that

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Speaker 3: I'm a little insane, it is true, But I just

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Speaker 3: I just learned so much about myself. And it's hard

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Speaker 3: to like make something positive out of something that's so

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Speaker 3: you a different level of drive. That's really positive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's totally positive. I just think I don't know,

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Speaker 2: Like sometimes i'm driving, I have like a little flashback

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Speaker 1: I just had these shots done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like, yeah, you're your ground zero, and so

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Speaker 2: This has been four years, Like like, this is me

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Speaker 3: Like, but I think it's also important to like acknowledge

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Speaker 1: And skiing it's fascinating to me. I think there's so

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Speaker 2: But have you had to deal with in other parts too,

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Speaker 1: You are so positive.

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Speaker 2: I always think that, like we've had a couple of

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Speaker 1: Those critical moments, we get scared the most.

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Speaker 3: Like you get love for those moments, That's what I mean.

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Speaker 1: You have that too, You have that you live for it.

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Speaker 3: to Billy Jean King like pressure as a privilege, and

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Speaker 3: But I like going in just full steam ahead. You know,

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Speaker 2: Well, that's usually a thing that happens to women, is

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Speaker 1: Like, what does that do? You don't make mistakes, but

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Speaker 4: You're looking for somebody to do it with, just you know,

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Speaker 3: I think in general, you know, managing your own money

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Speaker 3: Yeah, women in sports in general, it's very hard to

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Speaker 3: so don't even try And I got it.

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00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:41,200
Speaker 2: Wow.

439
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:42,879
Speaker 1: And who do you have to go to that ask that?

440
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,600
Speaker 3: Is it the brands or is it the actual to

441
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:46,440
Speaker 3: find out what they made?

442
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,880
Speaker 1: No, like to add to get more money, I had.

443
00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,359
Speaker 3: To go straight to the brand. Yeah, when I renegotiated whenever,

444
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,400
Speaker 3: when when any of my contracts were up.

445
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,679
Speaker 1: But like for a young skier who maybe she doesn't.

446
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,960
Speaker 3: Have unfortunately in skiing, like you're not going to get

447
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 3: anything until you're in the top twenty in the world, wow,

448
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,120
Speaker 3: to make any like any money whatsoever.

449
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 1: And so you have to absolutely love it.

450
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 3: You have to. Yeah, I mean, I know so many

451
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,160
Speaker 3: of my friends that I grew up with that have

452
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,440
Speaker 3: metal in almost every like limb of their body and

453
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 3: the only reason why they kept going was because they

454
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 3: loved it. I mean, you have to at that point,

455
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 3: you don't subject yourself too.

456
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,440
Speaker 2: Because this doesn't sound fun to me at all. Guys,

457
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 2: by the way, this life is not good. Like first

458
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 2: of all, it's not even just the injuries alone in

459
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 2: the whatever you got going on in your the screws

460
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 2: and the bolts, and but you also, like it's the

461
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 2: discipline of having to be able to compete at that level.

462
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 2: You're working out every however many hours a day, and like, none.

463
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,639
Speaker 1: Of that sounds fun to me. That doesn't sound like

464
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,199
Speaker 1: a good time. You love it?

465
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 3: I love it?

466
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 1: Like, yes, I love this, I think to each own.

467
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 3: Like I think a lot of people would think, you know,

468
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 3: speaking in front of people or being on a radio

469
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 3: show or whatever like that is torture. It's not tortreoss

470
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 3: but like difficult and that they wouldn't want to do it.

471
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,199
Speaker 3: I know if you're comfortable doing it, Like I can

472
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 3: never do what you do and you can never do

473
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 3: what I do. And so that's what that's what makes us,

474
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 3: you know unique. So I don't know I love in

475
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 3: the beginning, Like let's face that I was, you know,

476
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 3: a young teenager. I didn't like you know, my dad

477
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 3: made me run a mile every day, so and he

478
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 3: made me do a hundred push ups and one hundred

479
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 3: sit ups because I had to pass a test to

480
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 3: make the US ski team. Got it, and trust me,

481
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 3: I did not love that. But you know, as time

482
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 3: went on, like you realize that the more work I

483
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 3: put in, the more I get out of it, And

484
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 3: so you end up loving it because it inevidably makes

485
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 3: you better. So that's that's like how I processed in

486
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 3: my mind. And I would sit on the bike, you know,

487
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 3: for hours, and I would just think about whoever I

488
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 3: wanted to beat that season, or you know, like I'm

489
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 3: going to be this much faster because I'm spending this

490
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Speaker 3: much time m hm working out.

491
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Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about that, get like

492
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Speaker 1: your keys to being so disciplined. But I guess that's it, right,

493
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: like you everything you think about the outcome.

494
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I always believe that. You know, I never cut corners,

495
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 3: if you know, I like having plans. If my my

496
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,919
Speaker 3: trainer gives me a workout program, like I'm gonna do

497
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 3: every single thing in that program to the tea, I

498
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 3: will not cut any.

499
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 2: Wine because I'm such a whiner you are. Oh God,

500
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, it hurts you don't do this. I don't

501
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 2: imagine Lindsey and in the gym talking about.

502
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: Oh I don't like it. It hurts. I'm tired, like you're

503
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: not doing any of that.

504
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 3: No. Sometimes my trainer would try to like cheer me on,

505
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 3: and I would be like.

506
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: If you don't shut the hell up, shut off right now.

507
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 3: He's like, you know, push it, but do you think

508
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,199
Speaker 3: I'm not pushing it? Similways like I'm always giving it

509
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 3: one hundred and ten percent. And I'm like, if you're

510
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 3: cheering for me, that thinks you That means that you

511
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 3: don't think that I'm giving one hundred ten percent, which

512
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 3: means you should stop talking.

513
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 1: And I'm insulted.

514
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 3: I'm insulted that you don't think I'm trying hard enough.

515
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 2: You probably because I always say, like around they won't

516
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: play like we can't like I like play cards and

517
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 2: game game nights, Like he won't play games with me.

518
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: He says, I'm like in a competitive I'm inappropriately competitive.

519
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 1: Like it's not it's like it's too far.

520
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 2: It's not fun for everyone. And I gotta imagine that

521
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 2: you are a lunatic.

522
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 3: I'm a lunatic.

523
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you do game like even on game night?

524
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 2: Are you a crazy person? I you don't play, you

525
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 2: don't even get in it.

526
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 1: I just it's bad.

527
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: And I've definitely like I will give myself one chance

528
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 3: if I don't annihilate everybody, and then.

529
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: I won't win, but annihilate.

530
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 3: Even ping pong, Like I have a problem. I really

531
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 3: want to win.

532
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: You really want to win.

533
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 3: We want to win. Yeah, I've really tried to, like

534
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 3: honestly unprogram that from my from who I am, but

535
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 3: it's so ingrained. You can ask my siblings.

536
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, like how to God like, because

537
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 2: guys are like funny with I remember being going to

538
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 2: date back in the day with this guy and we

539
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 2: were playing we went he was like, let's go play pool,

540
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 2: and I was like, I love pool. We have a drinks,

541
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: we're playing pool, and then he said something like, yeah,

542
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: this is like not fun.

543
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: For me, and first of all, we'll ever get out

544
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: of here. But also then I it made me.

545
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 3: Like, oh, is this like you don't want me to win?

546
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 2: I definitely took it that way, but also I was like,

547
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: it was the first time anybody was like I don't

548
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:20,959
Speaker 2: like that about you.

549
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not cool.

550
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: It's so number one. He didn't obviously didn't make it,

551
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: didn't make the cut.

552
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 2: Nobody also too, And then I realized that about myself

553
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 2: because I didn't even know that that was a thing.

554
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 2: So sometimes I'm like, if we're playing, like you all

555
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 2: set it out or I'll just be like that's okay.

556
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good in the corner.

557
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: You don't want me in here?

558
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 3: No, you really don't. Yeah, because I said that after

559
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 3: that first dam like I want me and I'm telling you,

560
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 3: I'm telling you.

561
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

562
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 3: I mean it's it's hard, I think.

563
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: But how do guys handle that like with you, because

564
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 2: because if you're beating them at everything, that well, well yeah.

565
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 3: Unless you're my friend and like you don't care.

566
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 1: No, no, I mean like prominately on a date yea, or.

567
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 3: Dating say romantically doesn't particularly bode well. I mean I

568
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 3: would say, you know, it's fun to a point, it's

569
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: like always fun until it's not fun and then they

570
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 3: don't want you to beat them at everything, yeah, or

571
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 3: even if it's not, you know, competitively against each other,

572
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 3: you know, even like when I'm successful, you know, there's

573
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 3: always I think sometimes there's this like competition you know,

574
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 3: between each other, and that should never happen, you know,

575
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 3: it should always be I'm happy for you and you're

576
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 3: happy for me, and we both want to you know,

577
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 3: be better and more successful in our careers and lives.

578
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 3: And it doesn't always work out that way.

579
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 2: No, you need a very confident man in some way,

580
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 2: like he has to be good at something, yes, killing

581
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: whatever he's doing, because just the killer.

582
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 3: I think it's this insecurity part, like you have to

583
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 3: be secure in who you are no matter what you do,

584
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 3: and that's easier said than done. And I definitely think that,

585
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 3: you know, I was pretty insecure you know, at a

586
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 3: lot of points in my life.

587
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: Life when and how and why.

588
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I've been traveling the world without rental

589
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: supervision since I was like nine, so you know, like

590
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 3: I definitely felt there was something that's crazy. I like,

591
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 3: think about it now, you send your kid on an

592
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 3: airplane to go to Austria at nine at nine, I

593
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: don't know. Definitely not these days. But you know, I

594
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 3: think it made me independent. But I also, you know,

595
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 3: I think I lacked certain like social cues and you know,

596
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 3: like in relationships. I don't think that was always easy.

597
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 3: Like all I knew was competition and.

598
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: Oh I get that.

599
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So when did that switch for you? How

600
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 2: did you, like, how did you become aware and then

601
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 2: and then what did you have to do?

602
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: I think I learned over time through trial and error,

603
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 3: which is honestly how I learned a lot about my

604
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: life is just trying, like being not afraid to fail,

605
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 3: just trying things and Okay, this didn't work. Why did

606
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 3: this not work? And also figuring out like who am

607
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 3: I outside of skiing? You know, you're not what you do,

608
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 3: and that was hard for me to figure out. And honestly,

609
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 3: like I think in the last two years, I finally

610
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 3: really like wholeheartedly figure out who I am as a

611
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 3: person and nothing to do with skiing, even though it's

612
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: what I love to do. That's not who I am.

613
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you about that, because even when

614
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 2: you're watching your docment, it's like about your final season,

615
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: it's like your whole life since you're nine.

616
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is who I am.

617
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: This is my purpose to be great, to be a great,

618
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: the best skier in the world. And then all of

619
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: a sudden you're not that anymore. Then after the whole life,

620
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 2: So what am I?

621
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: Who am I? And what is my purpose?

622
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? Like what do I bring to the world?

623
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: This is probably pretty com like for athletes who retire.

624
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 3: That's why you see a lot of athletes having a

625
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: really hard time. You know, a lot of athletes have

626
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 3: gambling problems. They you know, abuse drugs and alcohol, and

627
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 3: it's a really hard place to be in. And also

628
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 3: it's because you've always thought you yourself to be invincible

629
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 3: as well, you know, like especially in team sports, you

630
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 3: know you have to, like football, for example, like you

631
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 3: have to believe that your career is gonna last forever.

632
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: It's kind of a mentality. But then it stops the

633
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 3: check stop, like what do you do? And it's a

634
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 3: hard it's a really hard reality to face. And I

635
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 3: knew for me, it was either going to go extremely

636
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 3: in one way or the other. So I went extreme,

637
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: like I went super clean. I like was working out

638
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: all the time and definitely too far to that end.

639
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: But I just it was kind of a a course

640
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 3: correction that I had to just figure out, Okay, who

641
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: am I? What's my next move? What do I do?

642
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: What's my passion? Like, what's my passion in life besides

643
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: going really fast?

644
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: And what did you figure out?

645
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: So I figured out, like through my psychologist that you know,

646
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,479
Speaker 3: it's like looking at skiing. What do I love about skiing?

647
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: I love the feeling of freedom. When I stand at

648
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 3: the top of the mountain, I feel like anything is possible,

649
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 3: Like I am in control of my life. So how

650
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: do I get that? Like what in life now makes

651
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: me feel that way? Sometimes it's driving my car. I

652
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 3: feel like I'm.

653
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: At driving really fast.

654
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: Probably, yeah, it's a problem, you know.

655
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: I just like contl Yes, not necessarily control, but the

656
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: feeling of anything is possible. So when I do things now,

657
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 3: it's like that's how I find my passion. It's like

658
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 3: when I think about doing something like creating a TV

659
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 3: show or a movie, does that make me feel the

660
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: same type of passion. Does that make me excited in

661
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 3: that way? And a lot of the time it does,

662
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: And that's like, those are the directions that I go in.

663
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: But I also figured out, like, so that's what drives me,

664
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: that's my passion. But who I am is still the

665
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 3: same person I've always been. I'm just a kid from Minnesota.

666
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: You know, I'm a flat lander. Sometimes I talk in

667
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: a funny accent after a few cocktails.

668
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: Really, I want to see that.

669
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: No, you know I do? No, you don't.

670
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: Is that it a little bit I do? I'm in.

671
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: It's bad.

672
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: It's not like it's a good time.

673
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: No, it's really not. We enunciate our vowels really badly.

674
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: That's something that I've really worked hard to suppress. But

675
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: with a couple of tequilas, I am in rare form.

676
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: I love that for you. You say that now, But

677
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 3: but yeah, I'm just the same. I'm just a kid

678
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: from Minnesota who you know loves pushing the limits and

679
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: pushing herself. And it's pretty simple.

680
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: You've had to figure out new ways to push yourself.

681
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: I guess right, that's the trick.

682
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 3: The trick because like, it's not who I am, but

683
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 3: it's also like what gives me joy?

684
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

685
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: But isn't there? Is there also a thing.

686
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: About like I think about this with athletes or anybody

687
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: who's achieved greatness in an area or in some part

688
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: of your life. If it's like, how do you not

689
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: always chase a level of greatness at that?

690
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

691
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it's how Yeah, Like, so I

692
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: want to try to chase a different type of greatness.

693
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: Am I going to be the greatest movie maker of

694
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: all time or the greatest television may I don't know.

695
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: You never know. Kobe got Kobe got an Oscar. I

696
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 3: was there, It's possible.

697
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: Were you at the Oscars?

698
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: Yeah? I was there.

699
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: I was at the Oscars that year too. My good

700
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: friend Mary J. Blische got nominated for an award and

701
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: so I went that year.

702
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: Wow, we were there, We're there together. This was all

703
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: it was all meant to be.

704
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: It's all meant to be. What were you doing there?

705
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: I was with Rolex and I was like, you know, oh,

706
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: my son is really slight. Was amazing.

707
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: I was with Rolex, I was just with a Ronde

708
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: and I was with my friends.

709
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 3: Me and my sister. It was a dress up day

710
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: and it was I've always really wanted to go.

711
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: Did you see Kobe? Did you know Kobe?

712
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 3: I've met him at the London Olympics, and you know,

713
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 3: I've been a huge I'm always a fan of Like

714
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: I love sports in all its forms, so I know

715
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: a lot of athletes and definitely was always inspired by

716
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: his work ethic.

717
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: And then you were there and you saw him when

718
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: I saw.

719
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: Him, like, Kobe just won an oscar, so you know

720
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 3: it's not possible if nothing is impossible. And guess what

721
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, win an oscar, own a fall

722
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 3: flat on my face, and I'm totally fine with either.

723
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, can you be happy if you

724
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: don't be the greatest at something else? Like, for would

725
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: you be happy with just the the striving.

726
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 3: For Yeah, I want to strive to be, like to

727
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 3: do the best that I can do.

728
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: You like the striving for it? Or is it the

729
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: actual greatness?

730
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: No?

731
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 3: I think it's a journey as well, Okay, like it

732
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 3: is a process. I mean I don't I don't just

733
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,959
Speaker 3: love winning, like, I actually really like working hard, Like

734
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: I'm again maybe like a little couple of screwslers, but

735
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: I like the journey of working hard. You know, even

736
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: though I fall like I like that, I like that,

737
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 3: I get back up and I keep going, like, you know,

738
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 3: that's just something that it fuels me, like, it gives

739
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: me more drive and motivation. So you know, maybe I

740
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: won't want to Oscar the first time. Maybe the second time,

741
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 3: you believe, but I believe, Like I don't know. I've

742
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 3: been working on a movie with Robert Redford for a

743
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 3: long time.

744
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: Now, and we talked about this night I met you.

745
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: You see a full circle. All of this is happening.

746
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: That movie is gonna be great. I know that for you.

747
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: We talked about it that night. I believed in it

748
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: and I had just met you. I didn't even know

749
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: you were to.

750
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 3: Do that shit for a long It's coming.

751
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: I remember I told you I was doing a script. Yeah,

752
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: you had just started that. I just finished. It's something

753
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: in the universe. It's happening here, doesn't happen.

754
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 3: We should do something together maybe.

755
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: Well maybe we'll be at the Oscars the same year

756
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: we should be.

757
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: Could you imagine?

758
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 3: Could you imagine we have to do another podcast that happens.

759
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: We are kind of regroup right here, regroup and talk

760
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: about the journey of that and how we made greatness

761
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: again exactly.

762
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: I love that for us.

763
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 2: I like that by the way I'm putting it out,

764
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: Oh you would like somebody who what is that called

765
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: manifests manifest Yeah, yeah, it's but it's not just manifesting,

766
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 2: it's working hard.

767
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: Like That's the key thing that I think a lot

768
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: of people miss. Like you manifest it, but you like,

769
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: you work hard to get there. But I do believe

770
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 3: that if you put it in the world and you

771
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 3: strive for it, it will happen eventually. It might take

772
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 3: me a long time.

773
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: That's okay, I'll get that. But you like the journey,

774
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: So I like the journey. Yeah, you have to love

775
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: the journey, a long journey.

776
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 3: We could be at the Oscars in ten years and

777
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 3: five years in one year. Probably not, but you know.

778
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's a thing that the people miss. It's

779
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: the journey.

780
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 2: It's like everybody sees the highlight reel and everybody sees

781
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, I want to be like her.

782
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: Oh I want that thing that they have.

783
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: But do you love the actual thing that it took

784
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: her to get there? Yeah, because you have to love

785
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: your journey. Otherwise, what the hell is the point because

786
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: the winds are just tentpoles. It's not your life. Your

787
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: life is actually the journey.

788
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 3: Well, if you think about it, I wor to my

789
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 3: whole life to win an Olympic gold medal and a

790
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 3: downhill race was only a minute in fifty four seconds.

791
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: So you have to love the journey.

792
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 2: Otherwise you're only happy for a minute and fifty four

793
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: seconds of your whole life.

794
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: That would be so sad.

795
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 3: I'll be short lived, Yeah, it would be so really sad. Yeah,

796
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: but most people I think aren't willing to put in

797
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: the sacrifices that it takes to reach your goals. Yeah,

798
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: you know, it's again it's like you can manifest it,

799
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: but like there are so many sacrifices that no one

800
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 3: sees that you know, you make every day that are

801
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 3: what get you to where you want to go, you know,

802
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 3: and I saw I've seen so many people in my

803
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: life that were more talented than I was, you know

804
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 3: that just they thought they were going to make it,

805
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: they manifested it. They didn't work hard like you you

806
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: have to put in the time.

807
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: Or they work hard, but they don't believe that they

808
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: can actually do it, or they let fear get in

809
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: the way, or they let outside noise get in the

810
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: way or all of those things.

811
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: Also, yeah, true, get in your way.

812
00:35:58,760 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: There's a lot of things that can get in your way.

813
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: It's a lot of things, mostly yourself.

814
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: That's pretty good and pretty and definitely true. I just

815
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: interviewed this. I just interviewed recently Ryan Coogler.

816
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: Oh really, and we should have talked about filmmakers since

817
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: we're both going to be when we just talked about filmmaking.

818
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 2: But one of the things he talked about is his

819
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: work addiction. And it's like he realized that about himself

820
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: because he was going through some time in his life

821
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 2: where he was dealing with some personal issues and instead

822
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: of dealing with them, he was like buried in work.

823
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: And he was like, oh, shoot, I have like this

824
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: is a problem. I should be dealing with this, and

825
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 2: instead I'm making calls and doing when I'm working. Because

826
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 2: it's his work addiction, right, and he had to learn

827
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 2: how to balance it. I was like, but you love

828
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: what would you love it? So what's the problem? It

829
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, but also you could lose the things

830
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: that are most important to you if you are not

831
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 2: aware of that.

832
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: For me.

833
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: I probably needed to hear that someone and I have

834
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 2: worked on that kind that life work life balance thing.

835
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: But I wonder for you, it's like you are just

836
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: a machine. Even now you're like talking about the next.

837
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 3: Phase, and I'm gonna it is a problem for me.

838
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like how do you balance problem? Do you shut off?

839
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: Do you find like your No?

840
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: I mean like I think I need to prioritize time

841
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 3: with my family and just being home and being depressing

842
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 3: and making sure that you know, I don't always work

843
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 3: all the time, and you know, I definitely I don't

844
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 3: have a lot of friends. And the friends I do have,

845
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 3: they understand me and and that I'm crazy about what

846
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 3: I do and they accept that, you know, they accept

847
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 3: who I am. But it's hard to you know, it's

848
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 3: hard to deal with me because I'm like, I'm always driven,

849
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: and I do think it's important to have balanced I

850
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: just don't always find it, you know, And I have

851
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: to just balance myself out because I just have a

852
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 3: tendency to go, go, go and never stop. And if

853
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: you keep going, you lose the people that are around.

854
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why that's why I asked that, because when

855
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: he said that, he's like Yeah, because you lose what's

856
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 2: the most important if you're not if you don't adjust,

857
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 2: and I wanted that for you. It must be interesting.

858
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: Do you have like your friends are like from childhood? Yeah,

859
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: because I was going to say, what kind of friends?

860
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: How do you manage friendships or relationships or anything when

861
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: you're like this is all the time?

862
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 3: So I have three really good friends and we've all

863
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: known each other since you were like seven.

864
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: So they get you, they know you. They're like, she's

865
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: she's being lindsay.

866
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, she didn't together, she didn't show up at.

867
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: The birthday party, and she didn't call me back.

868
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm the first one to admit, like

869
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 3: I'm horrible with birthdays, Like I'm just not my friend.

870
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: Also and her mother have the same birthday as me,

871
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: and I'm still bad at it.

872
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: You know that's really I know.

873
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: But you know she accept me for who I am.

874
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 3: But you know she knows my heart. We just we've

875
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 3: been through a lot and we don't see each other

876
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 3: very often, but like we're on the same page, Like

877
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 3: it's as if we you know, whenever we see each

878
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 3: other's as if no time has ever passed. And then

879
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 3: my best best friend. I met her about fifteen years ago,

880
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 3: got set up on a friend date and a friend date.

881
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you ever I had never heard of her? No,

882
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: had I didn't even know.

883
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 3: That was a thing. Yeah, because you know, she's an

884
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: esthetician and she was a good friends with one of

885
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 3: our physical therapists, and you know, my physical therapy was

886
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 3: like you don't have any friends. I'm like, okay, we

887
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: don't need to point that out or tell anybody about it.

888
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 3: She's like, you know what, you would be really good

889
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 3: friends with Vanessa, Like we should. We're going to go

890
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 3: on a friend date. And she literally went to a concert,

891
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 3: she introduced us and left. No, yeah, fully left.

892
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: Here's here's a friend, here's a friend for you.

893
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 3: Good luck.

894
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: And why did she think she was a good friend?

895
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: Why we're very similar? We're like, we're so similar. She's

896
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 3: so driven, she has two amazing kids, and she's just

897
00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 3: like super mom. But we're like instantaneous friends. Never that's

898
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 3: never happened to me before.

899
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: That's interesting because you entered the friendship with intention.

900
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely intention Yeah, but she is like, had no

901
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: clue but skiing, like honestly, no. Though she was at

902
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 3: my final race of my career. She bought her two

903
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: kids all the way to Sweden and her amazing husband.

904
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 3: So they're just amazing people. And I think it's important

905
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 3: to find people that understand you, that support you, and

906
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 3: like you can rely on them no matter what, which

907
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 3: is really hard to find these days. I mean, I

908
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 3: just don't meet a lot of people. No, it's not

909
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 3: like how do I meet somebody? Like, how am I

910
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 3: going to meet a friend? Like? I mean, we met randomly,

911
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: and we.

912
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: Didn't You didn't know me, I didn't know you. We

913
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: were like, oh my god, my back, oh my hip

914
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: on my leg. You had just had something going on.

915
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: I had just had a.

916
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: Surgery, and I was like, I liked her so much

917
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: by the way.

918
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: We were in the sea of a put But there

919
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 2: was a bunch of people, a bunch of people. There

920
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: were people from my world that know me very well.

921
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure there was people that knew you very well. Yeah,

922
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: And we were like yeah.

923
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 1: And then and then we just keeping I've.

924
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: Broke my back and I broke my knee. We should

925
00:40:59,000 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: be besties.

926
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: We should totally be resting. I'm mad we didn't stay

927
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: more in touch.

928
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: We will now now now we will, But was also

929
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: we have to get ready to go to the Wars,

930
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: you know, so we should plan like what we're gonna

931
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: wear and stuff like that.

932
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: So I'm very excited about that day. That'll be our

933
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: be like coming like a friend date.

934
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 3: Like no, like leave them behind, our men behind and

935
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 3: we'll just go together.

936
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: I would love that for us. And by the way,

937
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: that would actually happen.

938
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 4: We have to go through it's it would be disrespectful

939
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 4: if we did.

940
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 3: We manifested if we did it.

941
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: It would be so crazy. But I love this for people.

942
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 2: It's another because we always talk about like speed dating

943
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: with men. It's always about like a man woman or

944
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: just romance, not even just man women, but romantic relationship.

945
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: We talk about dating or meeting or approaching them with

946
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: intention and all that.

947
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: But you actually you can.

948
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 3: Do that with just friendships. Yeah, I mean never really

949
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 3: heard that. And it's also I think really important with women.

950
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: I don't really feel that supported by women all the time, really. Yeah,

951
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 3: especially in my skiing career. I mean a lot of

952
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: it is to do because we're competing against each other.

953
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: But you know, even with other athletes, I never really

954
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 3: felt like they wanted me to do well there was

955
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 3: always an underlying well, you know, I hope you do

956
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 3: well to an.

957
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: Extent, it's not better than me.

958
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, I think it's important to

959
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 3: support each other, and you know, I think our success

960
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 3: is you know, like my individual success is everyone's success,

961
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 3: and we you know, if we help each other, we'll

962
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 3: all become better.

963
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: That's so good. But the one thing I did.

964
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: Want to talk about so and you're honest about it,

965
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 2: like in the DOCA, So you talk about depression, dealing

966
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 2: with that, especially during times of change where you have

967
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: to walk away from something you've been doing your whole life,

968
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: this fear of that. I don't know, what have you

969
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 2: learned about that? And how do you get yourself out

970
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: of that? Because you can talk about getting yourself up

971
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: from an injury and the slopes, but getting yourself up

972
00:42:55,000 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: from depression or from whatever emotional you know, toughness.

973
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I've been dealing with depression since I was

974
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 3: a teenager. Really, yeah, I think it's been you know,

975
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: skiing can be it's like you're surrounded by people, but

976
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 3: it's so isolating at the same time, and I didn't

977
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: really know how to manage it. And you know, it

978
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 3: wasn't like now where everyone talks about depression and.

979
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: You know it's like, okay, it's like, no big deal.

980
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 3: I could ask you that, yeah, casually, but at the time,

981
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 3: it was like, you know, never show signs of weakness

982
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 3: like and and I definitely felt as though, you know,

983
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 3: it was weakness, and so I I how I dealt

984
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: with it was I journaled, you know, I talked to

985
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 3: as if it was you know, like I didn't pretend

986
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: it was a therapist, but I'm just I need to

987
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 3: in some format, you know, talk about my emotions. And

988
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 3: you know, I was a teenager, like my parents reading divorced.

989
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 3: I was living on my own and I just didn't

990
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 3: know how to deal with everything, and being isolated and

991
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 3: not having a support system was really hard for me.

992
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 3: And it kind of ebbed and flowed throughout my career.

993
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: And you always write you always journal, Well.

994
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 3: I always have since I was probably nine, but you know,

995
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 3: really leaned heavy into it when I needed it most.

996
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 3: You still have your nine journals. It's like Mickey Mouse, Yeah,

997
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 3: what was she?

998
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: What was what was her thing? Like? What was she

999
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: going through?

1000
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 3: It was like I didn't have very many friends, and

1001
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 3: I was also when I was nine. I was traveling

1002
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 3: to Europe, you know, and I was traveling with kids

1003
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: that were thirteen to twenty one and I'm nine. So

1004
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, no one thinks, yes, yeah, that's

1005
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 3: a dear diary moment. And I would like sign it

1006
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: like love me.

1007
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: At least it was love. You were learning on yourself, trying.

1008
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 3: I was trying. I was like, you know, for lack

1009
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 3: of support, you know, I I that's that was my

1010
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 3: only outlet. And you know, I think now there are

1011
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 3: so many more resources for athletes, for you know, kids,

1012
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 3: for you know, anyone. And I think probably the hardest

1013
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 3: time for me was when I retired, and you know,

1014
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 3: some extent, I use skiing as a crutch, you know,

1015
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 3: as a way to mitigate my emotions, and I put,

1016
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 3: you know, I kind of locked everything up and use

1017
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 3: it as fuel to raise And when that outlet is

1018
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 3: no longer there, you're stuck with all of these internal

1019
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 3: emotions that need to go someplace. So I started working

1020
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 3: with doctor Mondo. He works with a lot of athletes,

1021
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 3: and and he's been awesome. He does this thing called

1022
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 3: the cheat code, and he's just you know, it definitely

1023
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 3: made me think of life differently when that's when I said,

1024
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: you know, talking about what do I feel when I

1025
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 3: ski that you know makes me love it so much?

1026
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 3: Those are things I focus on with him. And but

1027
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: I think, you know, just being honest with yourself and

1028
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 3: having a support system of people that you know don't

1029
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 3: judge you, and you know, whether that's a therapist or

1030
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 3: your family, and just I think everyone needs an outlet, yes,

1031
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 3: to find that balance. Yes, And that's an ongoing struggle

1032
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: like it, you know, I think that's just life.

1033
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, was there any one thing that you can tell

1034
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: yourself to pick? Because I always feel like when you're

1035
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 2: it's like if you just like sit in the darkness

1036
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: of like whatever moment that is. Like for me, I

1037
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: always the thing I never talked about this before. Like

1038
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: for me, the little trick I have is like remind

1039
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: myself that this is temporary.

1040
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: You just haven't figured it out yet.

1041
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: It's gonna you're gonna figure it out and then you'll

1042
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: get out of it. So this this sucks right here,

1043
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: but it's temporary. Like for me, that's a trick. That's

1044
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: for my own trick for my own self. This is

1045
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: what I don't sit in it because I think to myself,

1046
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 2: if I didn't have that, how far could that.

1047
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: Rabbit hole go?

1048
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: You can go?

1049
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: And if I think about somebody who maybe doesn't have that,

1050
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: and you think, especially somebody young, Yeah, oh my god.

1051
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: I I never this is this is gonna be so

1052
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: bad forever. You could just go into you know, a thing.

1053
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: So for me, that little thing helps helps a lot.

1054
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: And I just wondered if you had anything, anything that.

1055
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: You tell yourself that lifts you up or get you

1056
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: out or no.

1057
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 3: I mean I think like when I really, like especially

1058
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 3: when I was skiing, you know, I had this thing

1059
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 3: where I I did a lot of deep breathing and

1060
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 3: I would close my eyes like I can do this.

1061
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 3: I can do this. I can do this. Like just sometimes,

1062
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 3: you know, when I whacked the self belief, I would

1063
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 3: just have to take take a moment and like internally

1064
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 3: believe in myself and then externally like let it out,

1065
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 3: and it helped.

1066
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: I can do this. I can do it and believe

1067
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 1: in yourself.

1068
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, even when it's hard. That's pretty good to

1069
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 3: because if you don't believe in yourself, then who's going.

1070
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: To in real life? When are you at your happiest.

1071
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 3: With my dogs on the sofa watching Law and Order

1072
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: and with then and Jerry's that's not specific or anything.

1073
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: We really could be.

1074
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 2: Friends because that sounds like the best tim ever. What

1075
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: did your flavor in case? Ben and Jerry's watching and

1076
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 2: they want to send you a lifetime.

1077
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 3: So trust me, they do send me supplies. They times

1078
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 3: they have dog ice cream as well. I love that?

1079
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 3: Is that true?

1080
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: Yah? My dog is Luzy and he would love that.

1081
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 3: M yep. I love Ben and Jerry's. We can do it,

1082
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 3: you know, fantastic whatever we want to do, it's possible.

1083
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: I've been manifesting that for a long time. It hasn't

1084
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: happened yet. So what is your favorite half baked?

1085
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

1086
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: It's a classic classic in real life. What's the best

1087
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: decision you ever made in your real life?

1088
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: Like most recent, best decision?

1089
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 3: Most recent, best decision. I went on a dinner date

1090
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 3: with my sister and a business partner and he brought

1091
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 3: along a friend and it was one of the best decisions,

1092
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 3: like low key, like last minute, it's amazing. You probably

1093
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 3: have to know more context, but I'm not. Yeah, but

1094
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: it was great.

1095
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: Did you meet like the love of your life.

1096
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 3: And that dinner or something. No that this is my space.

1097
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm invading your space.

1098
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 3: Sorry, a great decision.

1099
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: We don't like that. Okay. In real life, what do

1100
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: you like most about yourself?

1101
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 3: I guess it's what I love ann hate is my

1102
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 3: relentless determination. It's got me great places. It's also put

1103
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: me in a lot of bad places.

1104
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1105
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 3: Love hate.

1106
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: In real life, what do you hope people learn from

1107
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 2: your life? Like, what is the takeaway from your life

1108
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: that you would.

1109
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 3: Hope that you can always get back up? No matter

1110
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 3: what obstacle we face in life, you can always get

1111
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 3: back up. You can do it. Just put one foot

1112
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: in front of the other slowly and you'll get there.

1113
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: That's a great one.

1114
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, everybody, you never try a brisk

1115
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 2: car driving.

1116
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: You had to go to put you on God? See

1117
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: that fear? I really want to fear.

1118
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: I'm disappointed.

1119
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 2: You're going to be my friend that teaches me not

1120
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 2: to be afraid of stuff.

1121
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 3: I will do that. You need if you want encouragement,

1122
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 3: I will encourage you.

1123
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: I need that, a friend like that. I need it

1124
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 1: because I'm like fearless in what I do.

1125
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: But I'm not fearless physically you.

1126
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, They let's do it. Oh my God,

1127
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: that even hurts, I can give a time.

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Speaker 2: M h m hm