1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: Well, it was NFL. Remember this offensive rookie of the year. 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: He was a Heisman Trophy winner eight years in the league. 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: Now Fox Sports, he's got the cowboy hat on. He 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: is ready to go RG three. Robert Griffin is now 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: joining US live. It was a cowboy hat weekend. I'll 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: tell you that. It was nuts Saturday and Sunday. Let's 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: go back to Saturday. I said this when Nick Saban left, 15 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: Robert I said, Kaylin de Bor was the best, most 16 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: courageous higher you could do, because it would have been easy. 17 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: He'd go, oh, let's get let's go get Dan. He's 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: from the South, let's go get Dabbo. He's got a 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: Bama connection. And Greg Burns like, now I'm gonna go 20 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: all the over to the Pacific northwest to and I said 21 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: that takes guts. The Bama people didn't want to hear it. 22 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 1: I thought, Robert, he out coached Kirby Smart. I thought 23 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: that was a coaching classic. What do you make of 24 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: Bama's win on the road. 25 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 3: Well, you're making a lot of great points there, Colin, 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: and that's why you're in the position that you were in. 27 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: And I'm gonna, first of all want to say thank 28 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: you for having me on the show. Completely honored to 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 3: share the airways with you. But when you look at 30 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: Kaylen de Boor, I agree with you, he did out 31 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: coach Kirby Smart, but it was more than that. I 32 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: thought that Kaylen de Boor has always been a hell 33 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: of a football coach. He's won every single way that 34 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 3: he's been and for him to take on the challenge 35 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: of replacing the greatest college football coach of all time, 36 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: some might argue the greatest coach of all time and 37 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: Nick Saban lets you know how much he believes. 38 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 4: In himself and his staff. 39 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: But after the loss to Florida State, I thought he 40 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 3: was self aware. He understood, you know what, I'm not 41 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: getting it done the way that I need to get 42 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: it done here at Alabama, and he changed his identity 43 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: and for a coach who's won in multiple different places 44 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 3: to make that admission and step in and say, you 45 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: know what, we're going to come up with a new slogan. 46 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: We're going to say, don't let up, no mercy. Why 47 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: did he say that, It's because Alabama had kind of 48 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 3: lost its luster a little bit, it had lost its 49 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: fear that it had put into people's souls when they 50 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: stepped on the field with them, and his quarterback, Ty Simpson, 51 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: stepped up to the podium, took full responsibility and said. 52 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 4: I will be better. And he's been better. 53 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 3: He's been one of the best quarterbacks in all the 54 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 3: college football. So I wonder what the Alabama fans are 55 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 3: saying now. 56 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: Right Listen, success is hard and it doesn't always happen quickly. 57 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: I always joke Saban lost the Louisiana Monroe's first year 58 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: and got smoked by Utah his second year. Now, he 59 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: took over a bit of a mess, But it's hard 60 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: to take over Alabama. 61 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 5: The nil, the portal. You're losing, guys. 62 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: Now, I want to talk about I said going into 63 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: the year, I liked Drew Aller's potential. I watched Dante Moore, 64 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: Robert if I had a number one pick in the draft, 65 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: I would take Dante Moore. That kid's composure. I mean, 66 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: you played in this league. I was blown I mean 67 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: I thought he was good. I was blown away by him. 68 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,839 Speaker 4: What say you yed? Yeah? 69 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: Dante Moore is climbing up of draft boards faster than 70 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: any quarterback in the country right now, and it's because 71 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 3: he proved one simple thing. 72 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 4: He proved that the tools that he has. 73 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: Can travel to a big time playoff atmosphere, and that 74 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 3: his poise overcomes all of it. When you look at 75 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: Dante Moore there at the end of the game, when 76 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: they needed him the most, he went on the play 77 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: action boot leg. We call him naked when you don't 78 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: have a backside blocker. He stepped up in the pocket 79 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 3: and he hit Gary Bryant for a touchdown. When his 80 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: team needed him the most, he stood tall. And when 81 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: I watch his tape, what I'm so impressed by is 82 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 3: the simple fact that he transferred from UCLA to go 83 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: sit for a year at Oregon behind Dylan Gabriel. It 84 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: shows me that he understands he needed to be developed. 85 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: He understood that it takes patience to make that happen. 86 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: And what do you see when you watch the tape, 87 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: you see calm feet in the pocket. You see him 88 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: staying in rhythm, not forcing the football to any one 89 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 3: particular guy, but allowing the ball to go where it's 90 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 3: supposed to go on each play versus each coverage. NFL 91 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 3: coaches absolutely love this young man. Fourteen to one touchdown 92 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: interception ratio. Eight guys in this big time matchup caught 93 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 3: a pass from him. It lets you know that he's 94 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 3: processing it well. And in today's modern NFL you have 95 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: to be able to operate in the pocket, but you 96 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 3: also have to have off schedule answers. And Dante Moore 97 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: has that. He showed that with his ability to run, 98 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: with his ability to extend plays. So I'm right there 99 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: with you. He could very well be the number one 100 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 3: pick in the draft. 101 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: Okay, well, one more college question. Then I want to 102 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: go to some NFL stuff where I think you'll have 103 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: a really great perspective. So I defended Lincoln Riley I 104 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: was at this game. I defend him scoring with a 105 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: minute fifty five left, because I think when you're on 106 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: the road, you don't get cute like if you can 107 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: get into the end zone, get into the end zone. 108 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: The bigger issue is they brought Deanton Lynn on as 109 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: a decordinator a couple of years ago, and I thought 110 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: he was tremendous. And the defense is getting softer. And 111 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily blame the DC. I don't know if 112 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: it's because of the way they practice. They're now getting 113 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: pushed around by Illinois, and I know the kind of 114 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, Robert. 115 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 5: I know what their. 116 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: Nil money is and I know what they recruit that 117 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: shouldn't happen. 118 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 5: Who do you blame? 119 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: Is it this offense that maybe at practice you don't 120 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: develop toughness. But I feel like, oh, here we go again, 121 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: another Lincoln defense that can't make stops. 122 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 4: And I know you know this very well, Colin. 123 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 3: You're out there, you're around a lot, you're around the program, 124 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 3: and when I look at this defense, I agree with you. 125 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: I think that it's the defense that's holding them back. 126 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: Look against Illinois gave up twelve point four or twelve 127 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: point six yards per attempt to Luke Altmeyer and that 128 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: Illinois offense. You're not going to win in those situations. Yes, 129 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: they're getting a ton of sacks, but they're giving up 130 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 3: way too many big plays. In the secondary. And I 131 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 3: was able to call their game against Michigan State with 132 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: Jason Bennetti and a Lex Atlantistoy. Amazing crew that we 133 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: have there for college football, and they dominated that game 134 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 3: in Michigan State. And I agree with you, it's not 135 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: the nil. It's not that they don't have the playmakers. 136 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: This team is field with's high level recruits. But in 137 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 3: my talks last week with Kyle Whittingham, the head coach 138 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 3: at Utah, he talked about how it's almost impossible to 139 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 3: have a great defense when you truly have an up 140 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: tempo offense. Why cause it's putting your defense out there 141 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 3: on the field more often. 142 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 4: For Utah, they averaged some of the. 143 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: Fewest plays played per game for their defense, and he 144 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 3: really believes that the longer your defense is out on 145 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: the field, the more opportunities you're going to give up 146 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 3: in explosives that they're going to get and guys who 147 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: aren't fresh don't play well. 148 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,239 Speaker 4: They say, fatigue makes cowards of us all. 149 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: So I wonder if that's a question that Lincoln Riley 150 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: has to ask himself, because at the end of the day, 151 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: it all falls on him, Colin, he's the head coach. 152 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: He's the high price, money making guy that was brought 153 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: in there to make them a championship contender. 154 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 4: So make the decision. 155 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 3: Are you going to go truly all the way up 156 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: tempo and score as many points as you possibly can, 157 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 3: like we used to do back at Baylor in the day, 158 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 3: or are you going to try to play this game 159 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: where you kind of slow it down to help your 160 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 3: defense not be on the field as much. I think 161 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: I know the answer to that. I think you do 162 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 3: as well. They're probably just going to try to outscore everybody. 163 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: So I want to shift to the NFL because you 164 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: were a profoundly athletic. You could move, you could throw, 165 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: and I think Caleb has both of those. And somebody 166 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: told me years ago, they said, listen, if you're born 167 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: with a great singing voice, or develop it at an 168 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: early age, you'll sing in the car, you'll sing in 169 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: the shower. You'll sing because God gave it to you 170 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: and it's special. And I think there's a burden being 171 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: a great running quarterback. Steve Young years to develop the 172 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: pocket stuff because he was so damn athletic. And I 173 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: watched Caleb and I watched Ben, and I think Ben's 174 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: a structure guy, and I think Caleb can play in structure, 175 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: but man, he's got horse power. And go back to 176 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: your career, how do you balance well, I can take 177 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: off and get a lot of these first downs with Okay, 178 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: play with the coach's structure. Is it a fight when 179 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: you have the ability to move. 180 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it's a fight when you have the 181 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 3: ability to move, But you gotta have the right relationship 182 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 3: between the head coach and the quarterback. So right now, 183 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: when I look at at Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams, 184 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 3: I feel like they're the perfect Yin and Yang. Caleb 185 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: is delaid back, you know, gonna wear the funny, funny 186 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 3: clothes and not be super hight type of quarterback. And 187 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: Ben Johnson is the type of guy who's gonna stare 188 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 3: a hole through a sideline reporter if they ask him 189 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: a question about his offense. Okay, that that Yin and 190 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: Yang to me works for them because Caleb lacks Ben 191 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 3: Johnson has in what Ben Johnson lacks, Caleb has. Now, 192 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: when you look at the last two weeks for them, 193 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: he throws four touchdowns and literally eviscerates the Cowboys defense. 194 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: He's feeling good about himself. Well, guess what happened this 195 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: week against the Raiders. Wasn't the cleanest game, but in 196 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: late game execution, he goes and he leads his team 197 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: on a game winning drive. I still believe that Caleb 198 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: Williams is learning how to not color outside of the lines. 199 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 3: But they're finding ways to win games, and that's going 200 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 3: to make that growth process even better. The more they win, 201 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 3: the more success they have, the more belief they're going 202 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 3: to have in one another, and the more belief this 203 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 3: team is going to happen one another. You can see 204 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: him celebrating on the sideline and feeling good about themselves. 205 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: That goes a long way. Winning cures all in. The 206 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: Bears right now at two and two are winning. 207 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 5: So I listen. 208 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: Aj Brown is showing to me a great patience because 209 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean. 210 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 5: Here is we got to give him credit like he's read. 211 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 5: I don't care if he's reading a book. 212 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: Every time they put a mic in front of him, 213 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: he's very patient. He says the right thing, and I 214 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: think to myself, they targeted him nine times yesterday they're trying. 215 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: We got seven yards and it worked against the Rams 216 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: because the Rams could use length and physicality. It's the 217 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: only weakness on the Rams that they don't have a 218 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: kind of physical corner. They let Jalen Ramsey go. They're 219 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: a little small, they don't have that, so it works. 220 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: But I'm watching yesterday and my takeaway is this is 221 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: a long season. Robert and AJ's being real patient. I 222 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: don't know if this thing. Would you consider because they're 223 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: so deep, would you consider saying, listen, we need another corner. 224 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 5: It's just not vital to our offense. 225 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna move AJ get a draft pick in a 226 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: corner or do you ad just put your head down 227 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: and try to make it work. It's like a marriage. 228 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: It can't be this hard. You shouldn't have to go 229 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: to therapy every day. It just feels like it doesn't fit. 230 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the dilemma you get in when you have 231 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 3: a guy like Jalen Hurts, who I do believe is 232 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: the top five quarterback in the NFL because he makes 233 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: the winning plays, and sometimes the winning play, unfortunately for 234 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Eagles, is not throwing the football to AJ Brown, 235 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 3: or at least throwing it to him and not completing it. 236 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: It's one of the more confusing things that happened this 237 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 3: weekend for me, because when their offense is clicking, who 238 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 3: is the guy that is really making it go. It's 239 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 3: not Jalen Hurts. It's honestly, right now this year, not 240 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley. It's AJ Brown. When they put up points, 241 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: AJ Brown is involved. When they have to make a 242 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 3: drastic comeback like they did last week, AJ Brown is involved. 243 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 3: So I honestly don't put this on Jalen Hurts. I 244 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: put it on their offensive coordinator. You have to find 245 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 3: ways to get him easy completions. I always use this 246 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: analogy when we call games. You see a team go 247 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: on a fifteen play drive and they've got a couple 248 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: trick plays, and they got a bunch of different crazy 249 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: things that they're trying to make it work. And it's 250 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: like in a basketball game, you see the teams that 251 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: do the thumbs down bounce passes right and they get 252 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: the open guys to the basket and they make the 253 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 3: easy layups. Well, right now, the Eagles aren't doing that. 254 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 3: They're not making the easy plays. They're not getting him 255 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: the easy screen catches, lining them up in the slot 256 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 3: and having them run option routes, keeping him away from 257 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 3: double teams and not just putting him on an island 258 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: on the outside where they can roll coverage to them. 259 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: They have to find ways to get him that easy 260 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 3: cut to the basket where he can make the easy 261 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 3: layups early in the game. 262 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 4: So you're not looking at him in the third quarter like, hey, Aj, 263 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 4: where you at. 264 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: He's like, I don't know. You're not getting me easy completions, guys. 265 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: I'm a dynamic player. You see when he has the 266 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 3: ball in his hands, how special he is. That is 267 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,599 Speaker 3: the job of the offensive coordinator. It is not the 268 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: job of the quarterback to force the ball to Aj Brown. 269 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 3: So we don't have these conversations on the national airways. 270 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 271 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: and noon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 272 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: FS one and the Eye Hard Radio app. 273 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 6: Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. Join me every weekday morning 274 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 6: on my podcast, Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. This isn't 275 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 6: your typical sports pod pushing the same tired narratives down 276 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 6: your throat every day. Straight Fire gives you honest opinions 277 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 6: on all the biggest sports headlines, accurate stats to help 278 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 6: you win big at the Sportsbook and all the best guests. 279 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 6: Do yourself a favor and listen to Straight Fire with 280 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 6: Jason McIntyre on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever 281 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 6: you get your podcasts. 282 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: This is where I defend pro athletes. I can do 283 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: my radio TV thing forever. But if you're Aj Brown, 284 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: you may have six years in this league to be 285 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: a star. And you know, in baseball again, you can 286 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: play to your thirty six. In basketball, you know a 287 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: guy can shoot, you can stay in the league forever. 288 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: I get AJ Brown being you know, I mean, I 289 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: think he's showing. 290 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 5: I don't know. I think it's tough. 291 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: I don't think fans quite understand how hard it is 292 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: to be this gifted and have seven yards. 293 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard. 294 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 3: Colin would be like, uh, you know Kobe Bryant, and 295 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 3: You're like, you know what, We're not going to give 296 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 3: him thirty shots tonight. 297 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 4: We're gonna we're gonna. 298 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 3: Give him five, you know what I mean, Like that, 299 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: that's never going to work. You saw how aggressive Kobe 300 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 3: was when he played the game. So for AJ Brown, 301 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 3: my only the only reason I don't say trade him 302 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 3: and get him out of out of Philadelphia is because 303 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: when it comes down to it, when you get late 304 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: in the season, when you get into the early rounds 305 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 3: of the playoffs and potentially try to get to another 306 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 3: super Bowl to make yourself a dynasty, it's not going 307 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 3: to be about the ex'es and the o's. It's going 308 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: to be about the Jimmy's and the Joe's. And the 309 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 3: Eagles are a better football team when aj Brown is 310 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 3: on it than than they are when he isn't. So 311 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 3: that to me is why right now you gotta focus 312 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: on the ex's and the o's, and your ex'es and 313 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 3: o's aren't good enough because your best player is not 314 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 3: getting the football. 315 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 5: You're tremendous. 316 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: Robert Griffin knowses college does his college and pro stuff. 317 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: You know, met you years ago at a volume party. 318 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: If I recall you and your is correct, and it's 319 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: great seeing you again. I'd love to have you on again. 320 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 321 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 4: No appreciate you having me on, Colin, and I'm on 322 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 4: in to be your team made brother. 323 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 5: All right, that's great stuff, some good points. 324 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: You know. It is interesting that he used Kobe Bryant, 325 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: and that's the I think we had talked about this 326 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. Like you know, in most 327 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: professions you're an accountant, you're going to be in like 328 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: you can have prime years for fifteen years a painter. 329 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: But there are professions like you got about six years 330 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL because of all the injuries. You got 331 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: about six years, about twenty four to thirty for a receiver, 332 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: those maybe thirty one. Those are your big years. So 333 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: I get the frustration. 334 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,359 Speaker 5: Jmack with the news. 335 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,239 Speaker 4: Heard on the news. 336 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: This is the herd Line News. 337 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 6: All right, Colin, let's revisit that Bears Raiders finish just 338 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 6: gut punch for me and anybody who had the Raiders. 339 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 6: But I will say, listen, it came down to a 340 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 6: game winning field goal. All these seemed to go against 341 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 6: me this year. Here's the call of the blocked kick 342 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 6: by the Bears. 343 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 5: It's good snappers kind of blocked. 344 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 6: Bears blocked the kick. 345 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: They blocked the field goal on fourth to three for 346 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: thirty two seconds to go in the game. 347 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 6: The Bears blocked the kick. 348 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: They're gonna sneak out of Allegiate Stadium for the twenty 349 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: five twenty four win. 350 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, go ahead, I know you're excited. You're ear Bears 351 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 6: with the big win. They're your Bears now right, They're 352 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 6: not mine, they're yours. 353 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: Not all wins are pretty, Buffalo yesterday did not play well. 354 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: Not all wins are pretty. I mean when Baker led 355 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: to come from behind winn against Atlanta, that's one of 356 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: the ugliest wins of the year. 357 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 5: So take them big picture. 358 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 4: Okay. 359 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 6: Well this last week you went and said Bears eight 360 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 6: to nine. Okay, Well, a lot of things changed around 361 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 6: the league this week. Because it's a week to week league. 362 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 6: I don't want to get dramatic here, but that win 363 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 6: could be you know, the impetus for a bit of 364 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 6: a run here, so they get to buy. Then they 365 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 6: come out against Washington. Michael Pennix just went up and 366 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 6: down the field against Washington. That defense is going to 367 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 6: get exposed. Okay, they're not great, Colin. After that, it's 368 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 6: the Saints, and we know the Bears are probably gonna 369 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 6: be favorite to win that one outdoors. That Ravens game, 370 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 6: I don't know what's up with Lamar. I don't know 371 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 6: what's up with the defense. Sure, the Ravens are gonna 372 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 6: be favorite at home, but I don't think they're a 373 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 6: slam dunk to win that, and you start looking at 374 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 6: that and you're like, oh, we don't have to face 375 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 6: Joe Burrow in week nine, you know. So I'm not 376 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 6: saying Bears are going to the playoffs, but I'm I'm 377 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 6: just pointing out, like that win showed me, like Kayleb 378 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 6: Williams is growing. There is definitely growth from week one 379 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 6: to week four. 380 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: There's some real I mean Washington, New Orleans, Baltimore and 381 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: Cincinnati out of the by are defenses that are trying 382 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: to find their way. 383 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 6: Baltimore's debt was down six or seven, sorry, six to seven, huh, 384 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 6: six or seven defensive starters midway through that game against Chiefs. 385 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: And then they face a series of teams that aren't 386 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: offensively consistent Giants, Vikings, Steelers, Philadelphia. 387 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 3: Well J J. 388 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 6: McCarthy will be back for that Vikings game. 389 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 5: So that's what I'm my point. 390 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 6: So all of a sudden, you're like, oh, is there 391 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 6: a world that you know the early buy because their 392 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 6: secondary is beat up and I think the good cornerback 393 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 6: who had one of the interceptions yesterday got dinged up late. 394 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 6: I'm not saying they go in playoffs, but I'm saying 395 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 6: there is certainly optimism off that win. 396 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 5: Right, Oh, I think absolutely. I think you feel great 397 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 5: if you're Chicago. 398 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: They haven't. 399 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: They've been a terrible road team for like ever, but 400 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: I mean under eber Flus they were the league's worst 401 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: road team. So you just take it and get I 402 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: guarantee you that flight from Vegas to Chicago was a 403 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: great flight to be on. 404 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, certainly. All right, Let's go to Monday night football 405 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 6: Colin Jets Dolphins tonight. Justin Fields is cleared from concussion protocol. 406 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 6: He's ready to go. Dolphins are favored by two and 407 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 6: a half. I'll just I'm on the over here. I 408 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 6: don't love anything about either of these defenses. Jets defense 409 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 6: has sneakily regressed badly. It's early, and the Dolphins historically 410 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 6: with Tua have moved the football and these guys, so 411 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 6: I'm over forty four and a half. I don't really 412 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 6: have a feel on the side. There's this Anthony Weaver 413 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 6: video going around, he's the defensive coordinator of the Dolphins, 414 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 6: about how him talking about we're gonna be violent on defense. 415 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 6: We're coming out fired up. We'll see what Breece Hall 416 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 6: has to say. About that, But I think this could 417 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 6: be a really good game. I'll go thirty to twenty seven. 418 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 6: Somebody wins. I don't know them. 419 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I think you're in the right space. 420 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a lot of points. And 421 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: I think Denver, which has should have two more wins, 422 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: has kind of played with their food. I think Denver 423 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: plays well tonight offensively, and they have not this year. 424 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 6: All right, final story is college football where your guy 425 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 6: Donte Moore outduled the immortal Drew Aller, Poor Drew Aller. 426 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 6: He ends the Notre Dame playoff game with that bad 427 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 6: pick and then just an abomination of an interception in 428 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 6: overtime James Franklin, and I don't think you could kill 429 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 6: James Franklin for this, but he was. 430 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 5: He did. 431 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 6: They did have a bad start. I think they were. 432 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 6: They were stuck on three points for most of the game. 433 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 6: Franklin talked about his woes against top ten opponents, and 434 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 6: he owned it in the postgame. I get that narrative, 435 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 6: and it's really not a narrative. 436 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 5: It's it's factual. It's the facts. 437 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 7: I get it, you know, But I try to look 438 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 7: at the entire picture and what we've been able to 439 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 7: do here. But at the end of the day, we 440 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 7: got to find a way to win those games. I 441 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 7: totally get it. They're passionate and when we win, there's 442 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 7: nothing better. When we lose, there's nothing worse. So I 443 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 7: get it. I get the frustration that comes with a 444 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 7: fan base that has invested and cares. 445 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, my take his you're at home. 446 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: You have the best backfield in the country, a top 447 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: five offensive line, and you have really good defensive personnel. 448 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 5: To me, that's a game you have to win. And 449 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 5: they didn't. 450 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: And I've defended James Franklin, but you got to win 451 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: that game. I mean, Dante Moore had not played in 452 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: an environment like that. Oregon's young, Oregon's a college team 453 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: traveling three thousand whatever, three thousand miles whatever it is. 454 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: That's a game you gotta win. Like it's not Bama Georgia. 455 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: Georgia doesn't have to win that. Georgia has won a 456 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: lot of big games. Ohio State's won a lot of 457 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: big games. That's a game you get, Oregon, That's that's 458 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: the biggest stadium Dante More has ever played in. You 459 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: got you got a ball control offense, and I thought 460 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: Drew Aller just looked pedestrian. 461 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, they too conservatively, Colin, there was no imagination in that. 462 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: That's the knock on James strength when he recruits. But 463 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: it's not a lot of there's not a lot of 464 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, there's not a lot of juice. 465 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 6: He did not feel like like a mini Pacquiao fight 466 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 6: where neither side wanted to make a mistake and it 467 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 6: was just very safe boxing throughout. I'm like, dude, you're 468 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 6: at home. You got the white out. I'd get that 469 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 6: for Oregon. 470 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: Like if I was Oregon, I'd go into the first 471 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: quarter and I would feel out. I think that's one 472 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: of those games. If I was Penn State, I'd have 473 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: trick plays. I would put the pressure on Oregon. And 474 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: I thought Penn State played a little bit like a 475 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: road team. And it's like, no, no, no, you're at 476 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: home most of the time in college football. When two 477 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,479 Speaker 1: good teams meet, take the home team. In the NFL, 478 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, they say, now the NFL home crowd 479 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: is worth a point. 480 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 5: I think I think. 481 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: Penn State that's a seven eight point advantage. Dan Lanning 482 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: admitted that after the game, and I think. 483 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 2: You go in. 484 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: If you're Penn State and you you take big cuts. 485 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 6: As I remembered this play, I think it was seventeen 486 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 6: to three Colin in the third quarter, Oregon was rolling 487 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 6: like you can't have that now. Final note is you 488 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 6: have just repeat your national championship right now? Is it Oregon? 489 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 5: And who I would say? 490 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: If I had to bet right now, I'd say Ohio 491 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: State based on what I've seen, Ohio State, Oregon. I 492 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: can't trust Penn State. I mean, if you lose to 493 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: Oregon at home there, I can't trust you. And Texas 494 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: isn't good enough offense? 495 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 6: Can I give you a sleeper? 496 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 4: Bama? 497 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 6: The note, Well, Alabama's for sure. The Notre Dame fighting 498 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 6: Irish mister Carr, Oh, he looks amazing in Antem country. 499 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 5: That's Arkansas. 500 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 6: But still, I mean, Arkansas is a good SEC team. 501 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 6: They just fired their coach, I know, but still, come on, man, 502 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 6: it's Carr, a young quarterback going into Arkansas. You can't 503 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 6: go to Fayett Villain. 504 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: I want the highlights of that game. Arkansas played with 505 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: eight players defense stop it football. 506 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 6: Dame had forty two at the half. Listen, man, it 507 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 6: was impressive. Carr. He might be like a top five 508 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 6: quarterback in the country. It's Beck, Dante Moore and I 509 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 6: think Simpson for sure, right from Alabama. 510 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: If you ask GMS, I'll text one after the show. 511 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: I can't believe Dante Moore would not be the number 512 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: one pick. 513 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 6: He looks like he's ready to go in the NFL. 514 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 6: He was rolling out. I mean that kid looked now 515 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 6: that kid. 516 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 5: And he was a five star recruit. 517 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: I think out of Michigan he went, I think ended 518 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: up Ucla than Oregon. 519 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 5: He sat, so he's got some maturity. 520 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 6: Imagine that sitting for a year helped huh Art set 521 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 6: for how many Okay. 522 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: That was a I'm telling you, in college football, that 523 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: is a hard place to win an Oregon coach. If 524 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: you have a great coach and a great quarterback in college, 525 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: you can win anywhere. And I think that's what Bama has. 526 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: I think that Tys Simpson's really I don't think he's 527 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: Dante Moore, but he's good. 528 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 6: He's throwing darts. 529 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 5: Just like Jackson did. J Mack with the news, Well. 530 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: That's the news and thanks for stopping by. 531 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 5: The herd Line News show is flying by boy. 532 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: The show after us today is going to have a 533 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: lot of nuance, a lot of contextualization on Kansas City 534 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: hammering Baltimore. Now, I like Kansas City in that game, 535 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: I said, if you get me three, I would have 536 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: put it in my blazing five. 537 00:24:58,880 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 5: But that was. 538 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 1: I mean, I Mahomes hasn't done that for over two years. 539 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 5: Just seven on seven, pitch and catch. It's the hurt. 540 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays 541 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 2: and noone Eastern, not a em Pacific. 542 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 5: A couple of month of the night football games tonight. 543 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 6: Like j Mack, I. 544 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: Think the Jets the Dolphins over is the play and 545 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: actually I'll uh, I'll take a favorite Denver at home 546 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: offensive sputtered. I think Sean Payton will get it right. 547 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 6: Why don't we Why don't we make it interesting? Since 548 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 6: you're gonna be out here soon? Why do we make 549 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 6: it interesting? You want a little wager on what I 550 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 6: don't know, Let's go Jets. You you love Mike McDaniel 551 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 6: and two, I'll take Jets. 552 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 5: I don't love Mike McDaniel and TOOA or the GM now. 553 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 6: Or the odor for the stadium. 554 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: I like going to Fort Lauderdale in Miami. I don't 555 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: like the football team. It was just funny yesterday the 556 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: base fall playoffs. Regular season's over. Steve Cohen's owned the 557 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: Mets forever. They've missed the playoffs three times and got 558 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: bounced in the wildcard round. They literally were the only 559 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: team in baseball that did not have a ninth and 560 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: income from behind wind with all that money, all that 561 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: Steve Balmer with the Clippers, all that money, playoff disappointment. 562 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: Everybody fears money. The both New York teams stink in 563 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: the NFL, though, Giants feel pretty good today. Everybody worries 564 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: about money, and here you got you know, you start 565 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: looking around sports right now. Milwaukee's the best team in baseball. 566 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: They swept the Dodgers earlier this year. Best team in baseball, 567 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: great bullpen, good starting staff, hit. I'm just telling you, 568 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: it's a Watching that game last night, everybody speak freaking 569 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: out in Green Bay and I'm like, these games now 570 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: where the kickoff comes out to all you need is 571 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: a is a fifteen yard completion and a penalty and 572 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: you're in field goal range. I mean, Matt Hasselback talked 573 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: about that earlier. You get into field goal range now 574 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: so fast. In the NFL, That's why I think betting 575 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: the NFL is harder than it's ever been. My last 576 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: year and a half never been harder. There's so many 577 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: backdoor covers. I've had three games this year. I thought 578 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: I had wrapped up. I thought I had the Raiders 579 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: wrapped up yesterday, and then all of a sudden, you know, 580 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: That's why I think you're also getting a higher percentage 581 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks that can play because they come in with 582 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,239 Speaker 1: so many snaps out of high school and college and 583 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: personal coaching, and then the NFL also the kickoffs. Now 584 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: you get better field position with a kickoffs, So between 585 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: the elevated quarterback play because of you know, a million reasons, 586 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: because of there's more great offensive coaches than we've ever had. 587 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: That's why you're seeing guys like Sam Darnold and Baker 588 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: Mayfield getting second and third chances and flourishing. And because 589 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: of you know, I mean that the rules are all 590 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: geared toward the offense. Is that you get these crazy games. 591 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: And I mean, Micah Parsons, what's the impact I said 592 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: before in the NFL, there's three things you have to 593 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: have to be great, great coach, great quarterback, and somebody 594 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: to protect his backside. What about receivers? What about him? 595 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: How Justin Jefferson knew yesterday. If you don't have the 596 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: quarterback and he didn't have protection, star receivers don't matter. 597 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase did not make the playoffs last year. And 598 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: also at the bottom line is that's why I defended 599 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: the Cowboys getting a couple of number ones. Cowboys have 600 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: four number ones in the next two years. That gives 601 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: them massive flexibility in the draft, massive flexibility with the 602 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: cap because they're not paying Micah. 603 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 5: Cowboys are going to be fine. I like Mike. I 604 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 5: thought he was a good fit. 605 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: But I mean, you start looking around and you got 606 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: to have a coach, you got to have a quarterback, 607 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: and you got to have somebody to protect the quarterback. 608 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: Outside of that, you don't have to have anything. There's 609 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: so many different ways to win. Green Bay wins and 610 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: they're young, Seattle wins, and they're young Kansas City wins. 611 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: And they can't run the football. Philadelphia's reliant on the 612 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: run game, can't throw it consistently. There's a million I 613 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: still think I watched yesterday. I mean, Daniel Jones, he 614 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: looks like he can play. Daniel Jones Sam Darnold, Baker 615 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: Mayfield would not have happened fifteen years ago. There weren't 616 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: that many good offensive coaches, and the league wasn't as 617 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: quarterback friendly, and the kickoffs didn't come out to the 618 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: place they come out to now. And now, because the 619 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: kickers can kick easily from fifty five to fifty eight yards, 620 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: the whole offense has changed. I mean, I'm I'm sitting 621 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: there watching you know, Green Bay last night, and I'm 622 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: watching some of these late games and I'm like, you know, 623 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: even in college, I'm watching Illinois's got a great kicker. 624 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm watching Illinois this week, and I'm like, all they 625 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: have to do is get to the forty yard line. 626 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 5: They'll be fine. I mean, the Raiders, it. 627 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: Got blogged, but the Raiders kicker has been a pro bowler. 628 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: All they got to get to is a forty yard line. 629 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: It used to be like thirty two yard. 630 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 5: Line was pushing it. 631 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: You know, then, oh it's a forty nine yeard you 632 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: wanted to get to, like the twenty eight yard line 633 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: and that you know that that felt. 634 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 5: Like a mid forty yard kick. That's okay. 635 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: Now it's like fifty eight, fifty seven to me, and 636 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, that depends on the kicker, but I feel 637 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: pretty comfortable. 638 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 5: It used to be outside of about forty three yards. 639 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: You're like, oh no, I don't know if I feel 640 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: good about this. So and the big game of the 641 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: weekend beyond last night was Kansas City dominating Lamar. Matt 642 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: Hasselbeck came on earlier. It does feel like the Chiefs 643 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: are in Lamar Jackson. Spags is in Lamar Jackson's head. 644 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 8: I think there are some defensive coordinators that they don't 645 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 8: feel they don't fear certain great players. Lamar Jackson is 646 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 8: no doubt a great player, but for whatever reason, Steve 647 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 8: Spagnolo and the Chiefs I don't think they fear him 648 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 8: like the rest of the league does. The Chiefs they 649 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 8: feel like they've got a system and a game plan 650 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 8: that works with the Ravens, and it's tough when it's 651 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 8: such a rivalry game, and I wonder, I guess I 652 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 8: would wonder if Lamar feels like he's got to put 653 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 8: the team on his back when he goes up against 654 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 8: the Patrick Mahomes. 655 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 4: That's what I would wonder. 656 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it's that I do think Lamar is a 657 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: unique player. I don't think there's any answer ever for 658 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: Mahomes if he has protection. I don't think there's an 659 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: answer ever for Josh Allen. I do think their answers 660 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: for Matt Stafford put pressure on him. I do think 661 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: their answers for Lamar Jackson not many, and they're not sustainable, 662 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: usually over three and. 663 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 5: A half hours. 664 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: But there are answers for most quarterbacks, just not Mahomes 665 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: and Josh Allen pretty much ever, if they have reasonable help. 666 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's status for Sunday against Houston reportedly in question, 667 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: may not play. 668 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 5: See Tomorrow