WEBVTT - Hard Contact Catches Up With Zac Gallen, D-backs Offense Stymied vs. Rays 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:12.600 Hello, and welcome to another episode of Snake's Territory, part 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:15.400 of the fouls Heritory Network. Be sure to like this video, 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:18.560 subscribe to our YouTube channel, maybe leave us a five 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:21.560 star review wherever you get your podcasts. I am Jesse 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:25.320 Friedman alongside Jack Summers and Jack Things gone off to 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:28.640 a good start for the Diamondbacks on Friday against the Rays. 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:32.360 Heraldo Perdomo hits a first inning home run. The vibes 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:35.920 are good, and then Zach Gallen gets tagged for a 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:38.199 three run shot in the bottom of the first. D 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:41.080 Backs ultimately lose this one six to one. 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.120 I wish I could say I was surprised that Junior 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:49.480 Camanaro got him, got to him early. But the guy's 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:51.239 on a heater. He hit three home runs in the 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:54.560 prior game. Definitely not a guy you won up with 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:58.200 two on and nobody out. It wasn't a terrible pitch. 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.520 We're going to get to that and what else was 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:04.479 going on in that event, But you know this is 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:07.200 unfortunately he wasn't able to get it just high enough 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:08.759 in the zone. It was a little above the zone, 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:09.640 but not enough. 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:15.279 Yeah, that was a big moment in this game. Bottom 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:18.440 half of the first inning. It was a a one 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:23.120 to two count on junior Cameronaro. Zach Gallon executes a 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:27.560 pretty darn good slider on the lower outside corner. Gabrielle 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:31.800 Moreno did not challenge that pitch, and then the next pitch, 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:34.440 as you're saying, gets hit one hundred and eleven miles 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:38.200 per hour off the bat for a three run home run. Certainly, 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:42.759 it's easy to say that Gabby should challenge there from 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.240 our standpoint, I mean, we're looking at the box on 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:48.960 the screen. But at the same time, I mean, if 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:51.680 Gabby had any thought that that might have been a strike, 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:54.080 I mean, that is a moment where you want to 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:57.720 be aggressive, even if you're not sure two on nobody out. 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:02.120 You're trying to get Gallon some pause momentum there, and 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.960 it's just felt at large, Jack like Gabby has not 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:08.600 had the best instincts, especially lately, when it comes to 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:10.720 using those abs challenges. 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:15.320 Yeah, I mean, look, I got hammered a little bit 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.200 because I kind of called Gabby out on that on 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:22.359 X platform. But obviously Zack's a guy that walked the 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:24.680 bat her, and zack'son guy that hit a batter, and 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.800 zack'son guy that you know, put left the ball in 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:31.200 a hitable spot for Cameron Aro and to get hammered 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:34.800 out out of the ballpark. So you know, nobody's questioning that. 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.960 But in that situation, it was frustrating because it felt 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:43.120 like if you're fifty to fifty in that situation with 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:46.200 two on, nobody out and that guy up, and you 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.880 just got a one nothing lead and you're trying to 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:52.280 help your pitcher kind of get off to a good start. Here, 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.960 it maybe not had Maybe it wasn't like the conventional 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:01.000 best leverage situation being it was the first with nobody out. 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.080 But in the context of what's been going on with 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:08.040 Zach Gallon this year, I think it was the exact 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:11.640 spot that he needed to challenge and unfortunately just couldn't 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:14.000 pull the trigger on it. And you know it hurt 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:15.760 because that would have struck him out. 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.520 I'll show it on the screen here. You can see 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:22.680 that has pitch number four an eighty seven point eight 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:26.520 mile per hour slider. It does catch the lower outside 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:31.040 corner according to the box on the screen, really close pitch. 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:33.520 I don't think you can blame the home played umpire 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.880 too much. And again it's not like it was obvious 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:39.880 from Gabby Moreno's perspective, But yeah, those are the moments 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.560 in the game where you want to be aggressive with 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:46.120 your challenges. I guess on the subjective challenges Jack. We 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.520 also saw Heraldo Perdomo a couple of innings later. This 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:52.880 was the top of the third bases empty, two outs 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:57.560 in a one to two count, and Perdomo challenged a 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:01.640 called third strike that was in the zone and it 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:05.240 wasn't all that close. It just feels like, at large, 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.920 the Diamondbacks have been overly aggressive at times when it 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.200 didn't make sense, and then they've been a little bit 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:14.560 too passive when you know you really have a chance 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.520 to change the game by getting a call flipped in 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:21.479 your favor. So their usage of the ABS system in 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.960 general has not been great in twenty twenty six. 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.320 It depends on how you look at it. I mean, like, 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.400 you know, based on Statcast's way of measuring it, they're 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:36.440 actually ranked well. So it's a little confusing. I think 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:42.000 you know, statcasts a has a measurement of this, and 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.120 they're they're weighing a lot of things. It's not just 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:48.279 straight up one loss. It's the net runs over under 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:52.200 or expected and when you look at how you know 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:56.360 the Diamondbacks rank there, it's actually pretty good. So it's 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:00.120 maybe it's just a little bit of a confirmation bias. 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:04.800 You know, we notice it more when it's wrong. I'm 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:05.920 not sure, you know all. 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:11.720 I'm looking at their net runs for minus against right 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:16.640 now on Baseball Savant, they have the Diamondbacks at minus 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:20.839 two point six. It appears I could be I could 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:25.039 be missing something here, but my first glance is the 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:28.600 Diamondbacks rank a little bit below average in that regard. 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.920 It's a little tricky to read this chart that they have. 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:33.960 But what we can say now, you've got to. 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:37.920 Go team summary, Jess, team summary. You don't just go 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:41.480 catchers pitchers. You got to you gotta select team summary. 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:45.680 On team summary, They're total verse expected is plus twelve 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:49.200 point eight. That's eighth best of Major League Baseball. 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.200 Okay, I think I might be on a different screen 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:52.560 from you. 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:56.440 Regardless, what we can say for sure is the Diamondbacks 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:00.000 usage of the challenge system in this game certainly left 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:04.240 something to be desired. But as you were saying earlier, 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:09.520 I mean, even if Gabrielle moreno, you know, regardless of 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:13.520 Gabrielle Moreno's decision in that moment. Zach Gallon still is 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:17.200 responsible for giving up a home run at one hundred 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.839 and eleven miles per hour off the bat on the 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:24.279 very next pitch, So that is a bit of an issue. 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.920 And at large, there was a whole lot of hard 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:31.839 contact against Gallon in this game. I know Steve Berthume 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:37.159 on the broadcast was very complimentary of Gallen's outing. Will 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:40.400 show the full line on the screen here. Six and 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:45.480 two thirds innings, four hits, five runs, two walks, zero strikeouts, 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.840 eighty six pitches, fifty three of them strikes. He did 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.400 get on a nice run in the middle innings there, Jack, 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:56.279 he retired fifteen batters in a row, but the hard 0:06:56.320 --> 0:07:00.360 contact was hard to ignore. I think this was an 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:04.000 instance of Zach maybe getting a little bit lucky more 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:07.279 than truly pitching well overall in this game. 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:11.720 Yeah. Look for me, I was just happy he wasn't 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.720 nibbling after nibbling on the first batter of the game, 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:19.200 going falling behind three and ohero, you know he threw 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.560 his strike zone, threw the fastball into the strike zone 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:26.400 or right around it often enough. You know you have 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:28.760 eleven balls, you said, I think over one hundred miles 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.880 an hour, So I mean, obviously, look the ball was 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:35.400 getting smoked all around the yard at one point, you know, 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:36.960 and they were even saying there was a lot of 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:41.920 soft contact. Just it wasn't true. You know, it was 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.920 a lot of hard contact. He had one whiff on 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:47.640 a change up that came in his eighty fifth pitch, right, 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.480 I mean, like, come on, this was not you know, 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:56.200 zero strikeouts. This is not a bounce back outing for 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:59.160 Zach Gallon. This is a type of outing where you're 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.640 just gonna have to take it like this is what 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:06.320 we'll get. Just throw strikes, let your defense play. He 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:08.400 did keep the team in the game in the you know, 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:12.200 from the second inning up through you know, the sixth. 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.640 I mean, balls found gloves. There was a lot of 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:17.440 good defensive plays. And that's the only way that you're 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:21.280 going to win a start with Zach Gallon pitching, you know, 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:23.880 and it's going to happen sometimes he's going to have 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:25.600 that kind of outing. Sometimes he's going to have an 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:29.160 outing where you know, all the hits fall. So I 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.320 think this is just is what it is. There's nothing 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:36.080 different about the fastball, douce vertical break the velocity, the 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:41.000 horizontal movement, the zone percentage, all of that was exactly 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.840 what we've seen all year long, so you know, and 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.360 zero whiffs on the pitch, of course, so there was 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.520 nothing special about his fastball. He just you know, they 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:51.320 just put it in play and they hit it hard 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:52.880 and most of them went at people. 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:58.600 Yeah, I think that's the reality of the situation. There's 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:02.120 this this built an assumption that if a pitcher is 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:04.880 working quickly and getting a lot of outs, you know, 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:08.160 on just a couple of pitches per batter, which Gallin 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:10.600 definitely did to his credit. I mean, he threw single 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:14.400 digit pitches in innings three, four, and five in this game. 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.240 And yeah, people see that and they're like, well, he's 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:20.080 pitching the contact, and the assumption is he's pitching the 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:23.720 soft contact, when in reality, as you said, it was 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:26.800 eleven batted balls of one hundred miles per hour exit 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:31.560 velocity or higher. That is tied for the most in 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:35.240 any game by a starter this season, by any pitcher. 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:36.200 Not just the Diamondbacks. 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.800 So that is not good company there for Zach, and 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:42.839 I guess there could be a silver lining if some 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:46.240 of those were ground balls. Exit velos can be a 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.640 little bit deceiving in that, you know, if you hit 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.360 it one hundred and five miles per hour, but it's 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.000 on the ground, that's not really the end of the world. 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.440 But that wasn't the case for Zack in this game. 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.760 Only one of those eleven batted balls at one hundred 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:03.000 plus were on the ground. So there just wasn't a 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:07.280 whole lot to be optimistic about from Zach in this game. 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:09.600 I guess the one thing you could say Jack is 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:14.240 he did really attack in those middle innings. He rattled 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:18.480 off twelve out of fourteen first pitch strikes in those 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:20.720 middle innings, which was nice to see. He was getting 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:22.880 ahead of guys in a way that you know, we 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:27.560 haven't seen from him as much. But yeah, the full 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.360 body of work, I mean, it's still as you see 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:33.160 on the screen, five runs and six and two thirds innings. 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.319 I mean, Zach Gallen a few years ago, if he 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.360 had an outing like this, we would be like. 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:39.520 What's wrong with Zach Gallen? 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:41.360 I mean, sure, he pitched him to the seventh, but 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:45.079 this wasn't anything like Gallon at his peak. 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:51.240 Yeah, look, I feel like it's almost unfair at this 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.320 point to just keep beating up on the guy, but 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.200 the team keeps sending him out because they don't have 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:02.920 a choice. You know, had maybe and Nelson not gotten injured, 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:05.960 you know, we would be looking at something different. Maybe 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:09.440 it'd be in the bullpen, you know. But they need 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:13.280 the innings, even if it's innings with five runs allowed. 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.200 They need the innings and have to hope that the 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.840 offense can make up for some of it, which is 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.080 another topic we're about to get to. You know, there 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:24.960 were opportunities earlier on in this game to maybe create 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:26.960 a little bit of momentum and put a little pressure 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:29.480 back on the A's and once again the dbacs just 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.240 failed to do so, and so that didn't help either, 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:33.719 and we can't ignore that. 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:41.360 Yeah, the Diamondbacks offense definitely should take some responsibility in 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:41.800 this game. 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:42.120 For sure. 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:45.040 We'll get into that here in a moment. I will 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:48.560 mention real quick this stat from Asy Snake pit over 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:52.480 on Twitter. Are good friends there. They tweeted out that 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:55.320 Zach Gallen is the first d Back starter in over. 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:56.240 Eight years. 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.960 To face twenty seven plus batters without a strikeout, the 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:04.160 last guy to do that being Matt cook Back. 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.840 On June nineteenth of twenty eighteen. 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:10.800 So yeah, just the one with it came on Zach's 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:16.840 eighty fifth pitch. Hard to be so optimistic about that 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:22.600 given the circumstances, Jack, I guess when it comes to 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:28.160 Zach's future, do you feel like there is a route 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:32.080 for the Diamondbacks to move him to the bullpen anytime soon? 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:35.440 Or does it feel to you like they're just going 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.680 to keep running him out there for the foreseeable future. 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:42.559 I think they'll do it up until the All Star break, 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.319 and then once they get a break, they might reset 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:49.360 their rotation. At that point, you know they're in a situation. 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:52.040 I mean, they just had an option grant back to 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:54.600 the minors. I mean, if you move Zach out, who's 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:56.400 going to replace him? Right now? Mitch Brad's the only 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:59.199 guy you got right, They don't have anybody else to 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:03.120 replace him. I mean, I guess you could go Human 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:06.360 Lean and Dylan Ray trying one of those guys, Maybe 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.840 bring Cole Drake up and see if he can do anything. 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:12.320 But I think from the team's perspective, they're just not 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:14.480 going to look at any of those guys as potentially 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:19.800 being any better. Brat maybe, but he was just option, 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:21.960 so he's not coming back before the All Star break, 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:25.280 so you know, he Jack's going to have. However many 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:27.880 starts between now and July twelfth, I haven't mapped it 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:31.000 out with you know, probably three, maybe two at least two, 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:34.400 maybe three starts more for Zach Gallen is what we're 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:37.239 going to have to see and then you know, hopefully 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:41.440 they you know, they figure something out. Now they've surprised 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:45.360 us before. You know, this team is not totally predictable 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.520 in the moves that they make, so you know, stay tuned. 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:53.000 Not great, not a great day for the Diamondbacks against 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:57.160 the Tampa Bay Rays. We will talk about the offense 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.440 and the role that they played or did not play 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.920 in this game against Tampa. We also have some other 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.240 items to get to, some news with jilber Diaz, who 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.920 is now no longer in the organization. Talk a little 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:13.319 bit about lordus Guriel Junior and his future later in 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:13.720 the show. 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:14.559 So don't go anywhere. 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:22.720 We'll be back right after this here on Snakes Territory. Well, 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:27.120 if you're looking for baseball tickets or tickets to any event, 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:31.960 the number one ticketing app is our good friends over 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.760 at sea Geek with over thirty five million download see 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.720 Geek is the number one rated ticketing app. There are 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:43.160 more than seventy thousand events listed on sea geek, including concert, sports, festivals, 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:49.600 and more. 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That's 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:32.640 ten percent off any MLB tickets with promo code Territory ten. 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.360 Make sure you click the link in the description to 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.600 download the app and have the code automatically added to 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:41.240 your account so that you can use it later. 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:42.840 Thank you see Geek. 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:47.920 Well, Jack, the Diamondbacks offense did not exactly do its 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:51.560 part in this game and The reality is, regardless of 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.520 how good or not good Zach Allen was in this game, 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.000 it is very hard to win a baseball game with 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:01.920 only one run. We mentioned earlier Heraldoo hit that first 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:05.680 inning home run against Nick Martinez. The vibes were good 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:08.240 at that point. Corbyn Carroll followed that up with a 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:11.920 one out triple, but the Diamondbacks were unable to get 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:15.760 him home from third base in that first inning, and 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.360 that just kind of set the tone for the rest 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:18.840 of the game. 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:23.280 Yeah, that was Corbyn's fifty third triple. It's set a 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.320 new franchise record. He broke his tie with Steve and Drew, 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:30.360 So you know that's a positive. And again Corbyn keeps 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:34.479 performing at an extremely high level. You know, he's basically 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.920 the lone bright spot for me on the offensive side. 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.840 You know, everybody else has just been so inconsistent. Gaby 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:46.000 popped out, Nolan popped out, boom Over two didn't get 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:49.120 the crooked number. You know, you get to the fourth inning, 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:55.000 Corbyn singled, Gabby singled, another pop out from Nolan, a 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.560 line out for Max Kepler. A little bit of bad 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:00.800 luck on that one. Was a good defensive play by 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:05.280 Camin Arrow and then of course lords a ground out 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.280 and boom, you're for five with runners in scoring position. 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.440 It's the fourth inning. It's still a pretty close ballgame. 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:13.479 You have a chance to get back in it, and 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:18.240 you don't get any momentum. And then of course Ildemaro Vargas, 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:21.280 he came up in the sixth inning with runners on 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:24.320 first and second and two outs, he pinch hit for 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:27.639 Max Kepler. Interesting to note that Kepler has pinched hit 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:30.760 for immediately his first time facing a lefty. If you're 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.879 wondering how he's going to be used. And I mean 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:37.159 Vargas hit a line drive out to left field, but 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:40.520 it was right at the fielder. Boom for six runners 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:42.719 in scoring position. They never got another shot at that. 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:48.800 Just a weak offensive performance again, you know, and uh, 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:52.600 I mean we had four from lordus Coil junior. We 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:56.160 had four again from peven Smith. Neither one of them 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:59.399 are having good looking at bads, you know, neither one 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:03.080 of them are car their weight for me. You know, 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:06.399 why not just start groover, put Pevent on the bench 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:08.760 if you if you don't want to dfa him and 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:10.840 make him earn his way, you know, have a few 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.560 good pinch at bats. And one start a week, and 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.480 if he earns his way back into the lineup, he does. 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.280 If he doesn't, then make another move. I mean, that's 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:22.520 that's not including whether or not they should DFA him 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:27.919 or whatever. I am, along with everybody else, you know, 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.080 even when they were supposed to play yesterday in Saint 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:34.280 Louis and Groover getting benched right after having a good 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:37.760 game and hitting his first career home run. I don't 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:39.760 I don't like it, and I don't like it. I 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.560 think Groover should be playing, you know, at least four 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.880 or five of the games every week minimum. I don't think, 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:48.280 you know, Peven should be playing starting more than once 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:53.200 that while he's on the roster, you know, whether or not. 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:57.399 I just want to clarify, there's two components to this. 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:00.200 If the team, if the front office put that's a 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.040 guy on the roster, toy's got to play him once 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:04.800 a week. You can't have a guy on the roster 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:07.760 and never ever play him, because then when you do 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:10.280 need him, and you're gonna need him at some point 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:12.720 to pinch it, to come in and do something, then 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:15.160 they got to at least have a few reps in there, 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:17.840 so you know whether or not he should be on 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:20.320 the roster. There is one question. If he's on the roster, 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:22.840 how do you utilize him. He's on the roster, so 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.359 Toy's got to utilize him. But he shouldn't start more 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:26.040 than once a week. 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:28.760 Yeah, I think that's fair. 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.440 I mean, I think it's certainly in line with how 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:35.280 the fan base is feeling right now. I will say, 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:38.960 I mean Pavin is still hovering around the sixty PA mark, 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:42.920 and we've talked in the past about how sixty played 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:48.080 appearances in baseball is almost meaningless. A very bad hitter 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:50.080 can do really well, a really good hitter can do 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:52.960 really poorly. I know with Peyvin, it doesn't feel like 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:56.440 he's getting unlucky by any means. Certainly the underlying numbers 0:19:56.480 --> 0:20:01.439 don't bear that out. But some ways, I don't blame 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:04.200 Tory Lavello for doing this. I mean, I think either 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:08.280 Peven Smith is worth rostering and he should start against 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:12.360 every righty, or he's not worth rostering because I mean, 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:16.160 he doesn't have really any kind of defensive value, although 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:17.920 he did make a really nice play in this game, 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:20.880 but you're rostering him for his bat, and if you're 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:23.680 not willing to start him against someone like Nick Martinez, 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:26.960 then he probably just shouldn't be on the team in general. 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:30.240 And it's also you know, lou James Groover. His numbers 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:33.199 this season are actually very similar to Peven Smith in 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:37.920 all fairness, but yeah, Groover has had some good games 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:40.960 here recently, so whether it's at first base starting over 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:44.680 Peven Smith or maybe finding his way into the lineup 0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:48.920 at DH, it does feel like Groover deserves some more 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:54.280 playing time here. Diamondbacks also had an opportunity with runners 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:58.040 in scoring position in the sixth inning, I believe it was, 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:02.200 but as you mentioned, they were unable to come through 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:06.400 there as Ildemar Vargas entered the game as a pinch 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:10.360 hitter and ultimately flew out. So just a rough day 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:15.000 for the Diamondbacks all the way, all the way around offensively. 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:18.840 Jack, Yeah, just for the record, you know, coming into today, 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:20.600 I don't know what he ended up at after his 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:23.560 OH four and contact wasn't all over good, right, I mean, 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:26.280 a couple of flyouts he did it. One deep fly ball. 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:30.280 He almost comered, but it was it was kind of 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:32.959 a you know, would have been a true down the line, 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:35.320 like hit it in the perfect spot, kind of home run. 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:36.920 I think it would have been a home run in 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:40.800 a handful of ballparks, but not even trapped. 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:44.359 And then the line out to second base and the game. 0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:45.720 I mean, you know, I don't know what the x. 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:48.760 He came into today with a one sixty eight expected 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:52.280 batting average and a two twenty eight expected slug It's 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:54.119 not like Groover sat in the world on fire, but 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:58.080 it is two thirty two, three fifty six, so it's better. Yeah, 0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:01.920 but you know those numbers of and it's small sample size, right, 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:05.560 but you know who's got more upside? Who's who's going 0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:07.560 to benefit the most from the extra playing time at 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:13.199 this point? Yeah, you know that's that And and I 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:16.040 don't you know, I mean, obviously the team doesn't see 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:18.160 it the way I do, but you know, I think 0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:21.520 that the team and Groover probably is going to benefit 0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:24.840 more from the extra playing time than Peved Smitwell, I 0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:27.199 mean it's not just the sixty plate appearance. It was 0:22:27.240 --> 0:22:30.280 the last two hundred and fifty of twenty twenty five, 0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:34.280