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This was going to be 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.160 this was going to be a conversation about how we 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:21.560 should have spent our Sunday, what would what should we 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:26.320 have done other than sitting through three hours and ten 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.760 minutes of a football game that was going to result. 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:34.679 And to Tamara Brown's credit, she said, some point early 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:36.760 on in the second half, is this game going to 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:38.520 end in a tie? And at that point it was 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:40.959 three to three, and it looked like that no team 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:42.280 was going to be able to put points on the 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:44.920 board today and it was going to go into overtime 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.600 and end in a three three tie. And she asked 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.320 early on, and he kind of scoff at it. And 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:55.120 it was a real possibility until the New York Jets 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:59.400 decided to make some very puzzling decisions down the stretch, 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.640 and some puzzling decisions on both sides of the ball 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:06.480 down the stretch. But the New York Jets did's electing 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:08.960 to call a time out, run a play that had 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:13.320 no hope of extending their drive and punting the ball, 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.960 giving the Patriots enough time to look. They didn't even 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:20.680 need to run the ball back for a touchdown, there 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:24.280 would have been enough time on the clock to put 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:26.920 Nick Folk in field goal range and actually win the 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:31.160 game that way in regulation based on how the game ended. 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:34.679 But we've got so much to get to in just 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:38.480 the last two minutes of that game. There is practically 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:42.560 nothing to talk about throughout first fifty eight minutes of clock, 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.239 and in the last two minutes we are here to 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:47.760 break it down here for you on the Patriots postgame 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:51.040 Show presented by Cyber Reason Hardy Mike to Sell, Paul 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:54.120 Perillan now joining us here in studio. As you can imagine, 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:58.120 we were all in our seats until the last possible moment, 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:00.480 and I was I had to been fit of being 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:02.840 two floors lower than these guys, so I was able 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:06.880 to make it down here first. So welcome in juice. 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.760 What a finish to that game, What a What an 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:16.120 absolute exercise and futility for three hours followed by twenty 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.960 seconds of sheer pandemonium. Right, Oh my gosh, what the 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:21.680 heck has happened? I'm like, I'm I'm still in shock 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:24.360 right now. I mean, you expect them, We're going over time, 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:27.280 you know. And then all of a sudden, Marcus Jones. 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.240 I mean, that's what they drafted him to do. Had 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:33.400 to leave the game briefly with an ankle injury, came back, 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:37.120 So I guess the legend of Marcus Jones, who will 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.800 continue to grow. So yeah, I mean, I don't know 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:41.920 how much there is to dissect overall from from the 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.360 game credit to the defense offense will we'll get into, 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:48.200 I'm sure, but hey, defense and special teams, they did 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:50.120 it again for you. Well. One of the one of 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:52.720 the bads in there I had originally written down was 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.640 when the Patriots had to call a time out because 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:57.960 they didn't have anyone back to receive the punt. But 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:00.840 you know, as it turns out, it is because Marcus 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:04.040 Jones was slowly to leave the field and he wasn't 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.360 able to get out there, and he wasn't okay. So 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:11.520 I mean, all these things they somehow come to, you know, 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:13.600 come to the same point, and they all end up 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:16.760 leading to the same thing, which was just a crazy 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:19.520 wild play at the end, a crazy decision from the 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:21.920 from the Jets I think toward the end of that game. 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:25.720 And the result is both teams come out of this 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:29.680 game at six and four with the Patriots holding the tiebreaker, 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:32.039 of course, after beating the Jets in both their meetings 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.960 this season. Paul, I don't know what you thought for 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:38.039 the first three hours of that game, but just terrible football. 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:39.760 I was just thinking about other things I wish I 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.719 would have been doing. I have a couple of socks 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.160 sitting at home that you know, I could go and 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.280 maybe try and find the matches for those songs. You 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:53.400 got lucky that you missed the Colts game. Okay, well 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.680 I don't feel all that lucky except the result. Wow, 0:04:56.839 --> 0:05:00.360 the excitement at the end of that game. It made 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.160 it worth it. We'll see what you think here eight 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.159 five five, pats five hundred and the email. I gotta 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:06.919 get another look at this here we're playing it on 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.920 the screen. So he cut about the sixteen and then 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:13.720 it was and there was a cutback. The cutback was 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.400 you know, it's just yeah, that was it. There was 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.080 one play here at the end that I think the 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:25.400 Pits oh pads may have gotten away with the police. No, okay, now, 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:27.000 I didn't think they were gonna be I can't believe 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:31.520 holding on the third down before that, like the way 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.000 that game was going. Yeah, are you surprised at all? 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:37.720 Though that the flag. Could the flag have come out here? 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:40.680 That's a plating block in the back. I didn't see 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:44.040 that by so you're saying that could of the game 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:45.960 was over anyway, he was going to kick a ten 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:47.839 yard field goal and win. And that was the point 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:51.320 I'd made thanks to thanks to the Jets calling time 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.839 out before they ran their last play from scrimmage. What 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:58.320 they called a time or did they did? The Patriots 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:00.080 called the time? Yes, okay, I thought it was the 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:04.440 Jets time out. Well, h here we go. Let's get 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.760 into it. Um, good, bad, injured? Is there is there 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:09.480 anything else you want to talk about before we get 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:11.799 into it. It It was a terrible It was a terrible, terrible. 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.080 It was a terrible game to watch, a terrible game 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:17.240 to witness that started started off, started off with a 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:21.000 ten minute delay and got worse from now. That is true. 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.640 That was the that's when there was still hope. That 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:25.760 was the most exciting part of the game, the first 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:28.120 ten minutes when they didn't actually play in the last 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:31.520 ten seconds, that's it. That's it. That would those would 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.360 do two best parts of the game. Let's get into 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:38.279 it here. Now it's time for the good pretty good 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:47.120 pretty good, the bad and the injured. Ah, you are 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:52.279 right gay. Before we get into the good, the bad, 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:56.120 and the injured, let's speak with Devon Gottscha was joining 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:59.440 us now from the locker room. I'm sure you guys 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:04.280 from being in follow moods to fantastic modes. Divon, congratulations 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:07.080 on the win. I appreciate it. It's feel so good. 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.520 It's so good to uh, you know, always get to 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.000 winning your division account as tools. You know, the Jets 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:13.880 have a really good team, have been playing really good 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.600 big win against Buffalo, but it feels good to come 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:18.560 out with a winch that. Hey, Divon, I just gotta 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:20.120 ask you, what what are things like right now for 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.440 rookie Marcus Jones there in the locker room. I imagine 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.360 you guys are all over him. Oh, he's been due 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.680 for one. He's this guy. He's gonna he's gonna be special. 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:29.560 He's gonna be very special. About to stay up because 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:31.640 he's a trying to bust. But he's been dupe for 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:33.520 one of you. Look at the games. He's been been 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.040 due to break one. He's going to be special. He's 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.280 very dynamic. You know. I'm excited to see him over 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:41.840 the years, Sabon, What can you talk about the run defense? 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:43.720 They obviously the Jets wanted to play it close to 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.720 the vest and play field position and do all those 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.160 kinds of conservative things. But you just wouldn't allow it 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.840 all day. What was the key to your success? Up front? 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:54.160 We know the Jets wanted to run the ball. They 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.360 want to They ran the ball. They try to run 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.960 the ball and make the complete get against Buffalo. The 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:02.560 Buffalo game the last time played us uh the quarterback 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:04.880 to a couple picks, So we knew they want to 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:06.240 come out and run a ball. So you know, we 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.200 wanted to come out and stop them, you know, like 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:09.920 that that's that's that's my job. That's a lot of 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:12.000 guy's job. And be long, you know, don't get all 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:13.760 accolades and double teams and all that. You know, you 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:15.720 don't see that on the statieet, but when you watch 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:17.120 the games and the staid so we just want to 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:18.720 come out and stop it. Though, do you have to 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:21.040 guard against being impatient in a game like that when 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.200 you're kind of waiting for something to happen, you're standing 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.280 in the sidelines, you're waiting for your offense to kind 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:27.920 of pull ahead. Do you have to be careful not 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.640 to get overaggressive when you get back out of the 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:33.800 field and try and get another stop. Yeah, it really 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:35.400 didn't matter. I mean we could have got one pick. 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.400 It really didn't matter. Whatever. We would have got one 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.199 field I mean I mentioned saying one field goal. It 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.400 didn't matter. We just know it's the score was tied 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:46.280 three three. We wasn't allowed to let them score against 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.640 there though, so you know, kind of human let him 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.000 like a cross the ppyr line. Yeah, I was. Defense 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.280 played pretty good today and they mostly rang the ball. 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:54.480 We know they want to try to run a ball, 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.960 so we know we had to stop runt. So you know, 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:58.880 that's why that's why they brought guts like me here 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.439 devon what's now on tap? I mean you got a 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:03.760 quick turnaround to the Vikings in a few short days. 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:05.960 I mean, how can you build with this energy just 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:07.600 coming off the field with a big win like that, 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:10.920 carry that into Thursday twenty four. I was just you know, clear, 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.480 we're gonna watch it tomorrow. I'm actually gonna try to 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:15.880 go home and watch some of the Minnesota game. Team 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.640 is playing something high, playing pretty good. We gotta make 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:20.520 sure we come out and start fast on both all 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.480 three phases. Uh, you know, do just team have a 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:26.080 lot of confidence. They're playing out pretty good. I got 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.080 a very good offense, very good with sevens, very good 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:29.959 running mat So maybe you want to make sure we 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:31.480 come out and start fast. You know, we're gonna watch 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:32.960 this game. Get to give the corrections that move on 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.560 to better all right, Devon, Like Deuce just said, he 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:37.720 had a short week, so we'll let you go. Congratulations 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.319 on the wind, all right, thank you? All right, take care, 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:44.040 there he goes Devon. Gotcha who's defensive UNA did their 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:47.000 job today holding the page, holding the jets too. I 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.400 think one hundred and four hundred three I think on 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.920 hundred four hundred three yards of total offense, just over 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.120 one hundred yards in total, fifty nine yards rushing two 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:58.560 point six per carry. Zach Wilson was nine of twenty 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.679 two for seventy seven yards. All right, so there we go. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:07.719 We would like to thank Microsoft and Microsoft Surface, specifically, 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:11.600 the official sideline technology provider and laptop of the NFL 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.000 and the New England Patriots, provides players and coaches with 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.560 the tools to succeed both on and off the field. 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:20.079 Check out the powerful Surface Pro eight, combining the power 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:23.400 of laptop with the flexibility of a tablet at surface 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:28.400 dot Com. Oh all right, now we can get into 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:31.839 the ground without worrying about someone calling in. Now we 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.800 play some football. Well, I mean Hetty called in during 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:37.800 the good what else? I mean, there's a few good 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.719 things talking about it, But it's it's defense. Defense doing 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:42.960 their job today, duce. Yeah, sure, but let's share. I mean, 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:44.840 I was going to throw Marcus Jones on there, just 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:46.400 to the obvious one for the for the big play 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:49.480 at them, but I got But but let's start with 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.240 the defense. I mean, I just you know, I mean, 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:53.920 they think they allowed them one first down after the half, 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:57.320 so they just refused to let the team down and 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:01.480 they had to today again. I just think gotcha, guy, 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.240 all those guys up front, um, were just really strong 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.520 and stout. And it's a continuation of how they've been 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:10.400 playing against these teams. Now that said, great performance. Now 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.240 the stage is set. Now you got legit offense in 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.920 Minnesota and then Buffalo coming up. So um but you know, hey, 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:19.560 you gotta give them credit. The yardage speaks for itself. 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:21.240 One hundred yards. I mean that's you know, they shut 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.440 they shut the Jets down completely and you know for 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:25.400 a large part. I mean, you know, if they weren't 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:27.200 able to come through the punt, one play could have 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.599 changed it really quick. So um, they were able to 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:31.440 get those stops. I was a little nervous down the end, 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.640 but uh but yeah, they they shut them down. Um. 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:39.160 I think just defensively, and obviously it's gonna it's gonna 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.160 start in with Marcus Jones. I mean, the biggest play 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.360 of the game and the you know, the the truly 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:48.280 the only big play of the game that just obviously 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.160 changed anything in the whole tone of the day, in 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.480 the whole tone of the game. But uh, yeah, I'll 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:54.840 give it up to the to the defense first, Paul, 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:57.439 what do you yeah, I mean, the run defense was outstanding. Um. 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:02.120 I also thought, um, the timely nature of some of 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.480 the pressure in the second half, especially they didn't get 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:07.839 much in the first half, but I thought they kind 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:11.000 of adjusted their pass rush where Wilson got free a 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:14.040 couple of times for some scrambles, and in the second half, 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:16.520 I thought they did a better job of containing him 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:20.480 while getting after him. So yeah, I mean defensively, Jonathan Jones, 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.280 I thought was a standout in coverage. I mean, I 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.680 know they weren't pressured because of the nature of the game, 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.719 and they weren't throwing. They couldn't sustain any offense, but 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.319 Jonathan Jones was one that stood out to me in 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:37.600 the run defense. All Right, I will give I will 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:40.840 give a credit to the first offensive player, I guess, 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:45.040 and just in order, starting with Romandrea Stevenson. I mean, 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.679 your offense came from you know, two running backs today essentially, 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.679 and of course one huge special teams play. But I 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:57.400 had Romandrea Stevenson down early as as something that looked 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:00.560 better than everything else out there. How's that? Yeah, Well, 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.040 the third and sixteen run that he just like powered 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.520 through five tackles I think to get the first down. 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.400 I mean that was That's what Remandri has been doing 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:10.800 all year long. And you know, I think there were 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:13.200 a couple plays where there were some holes, but largely 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:15.600 I think the guys had to get everything they earned. 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:18.280 For Damien Harris had a nice big run too, But um, 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.800 you know, handful of offensive plays probably that we can 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:22.920 you know, hand out some acknowledgement too, But that's probably 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.640 I mean, offensively, if we're going to do this it's 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.960 individual plays. Yeah, it's it's the third and eighteen passed 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.440 that Stevenson broke four tackles on to get a first down. 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.719 It's two runs by Damian Harris, one for twenty two 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:38.720 and one for thirty yards. I mean, remindre Stevenson had 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.080 fifteen carries for twenty six yards in this game. Horrific 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:43.640 one point seven yards to get and it wasn't not Stevenson. 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:46.360 I mean, that's not on Stevenson, no, but but but 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.080 Damian Harris had eight for sixty five, two big runs 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:53.680 thirty and twenty two yards. We're talking about individual plays 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:57.280 offensively because there was nothing, no, and for Stevenson it 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:58.800 was you know, it was like just just said it 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:00.800 was a reception that it was, you know, like I'll 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:04.719 run you know, yeah, one reception. But the point is 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.079 what we're going to keep going back to is that 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.079 they couldn't do anything with their good fortune. If they 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:12.320 did convert on a third and long, they couldn't do 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.319 anything with it. They didn't ever get any points out 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:17.480 of that. Yeah, they were there were granted outstanding field 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:21.520 position time and time again, and couldn't do anything with it. Yeah. 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.320 And I mean you know, and I'm sure we'll talk 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.640 plenty about this, but I mean I thought, you know, individually, 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:27.920 they had some good plays, some good drives. I thought 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:29.840 Mac had, you know, looked a little bit more comfortable 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:31.440 in the pocket. I thought he delivered some balls that 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:33.600 we haven't really seen him delivered this year. But as 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:35.840 they got closer to the red zone, all of a sudden, 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.800 things just started falling apart and you're taking penalties, you're 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.920 making negative plays, you're taking sacks, and then you're moving backwards. 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.240 So you know, there were some little pieces there where 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.120 you're like, there's a play that looks you know, I 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.600 think more than I've probably seen. But the negative plays 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:49.960 continue to be there. I saw a stat at the 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:52.000 end that was, you know, the Patriots had ten negative 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.760 plays to the Jets eight. So they continue to go backwards, 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:56.640 they continue to take penalties, and you know, we can 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:58.920 talk about the one I was counting. I only had nine. 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:01.640 I missed one. I didn't think it was twenty three 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.920 and twenty seven, the ultimate two hundred forty six, the 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:09.000 ultimate plastic stat game of all games. Because Mike just 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:12.480 hit it. They would make and we're seeing the highlights now, 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:14.560 you know, they would make a play, Damian Harris would 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.560 would go thirty yards, they would get down in position 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:18.840 to get points, and he would take a sack. He 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.400 did it like three times, Like you can't take a 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.640 sack when you're on the edge of field goal range 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:27.520 in a game that the wind was definitely a factor 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:29.840 at that end of the stadium. And he got sacked 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.200 six times today. He wasn't under attack. It wasn't like 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:35.640 free runaway guys. Like there were times that he was 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:39.280 standing back there with plenty of time. They couldn't sustain 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:43.440 anything offensively. If the Jets weren't if the Patriots, I'll 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.760 rephrase that instead of saying that the Jets weren't so inept, 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:49.320 if the Patriots defense wasn't so dominant, you'd look at 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:51.040 this as one of the worst offensive games you ever 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:55.040 saw by the Patriots. I mean, fourth or fifteen on 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:58.640 third down, thirteen first downs in the game, two hundred 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:00.840 and ninety seven total yards. That's like the fifth game 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:02.520 in a row they've been under three hundred yards of 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:06.000 total offense. That's pathetic. Now, in comparison to the Jets, 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.560 it's not so bad, but they couldn't do a thing 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:13.000 offensively in this game. And again it was just some 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.800 individual plays. John and I would throw John who Smith 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:17.960 in there, who made a couple of individual plays. But 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.320 even on one of his I think that they had 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:21.880 a little jet sweep. I think that might have been 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.000 a touchdown and he dropped the ball. Well, that was 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.280 That was my first good that I had was John 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.920 who Smith's fumble recovery. But yeah, to immediately counter with 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:33.800 that was the ghost of somebody who forced the fumble. 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:37.040 He's switching hands for no apparent reason on that play. 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.240 I didn't get it. Zoe talked about it on the broadcast. 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:41.800 He said, look, it's cold out there, he said, and 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.280 he grabbed one of the footballs during warmups. He's like, 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:48.520 they're slick. It's it's also not the first rodeo for 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:52.200 these guys. They've played football in cold weather before. They 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:55.960 know what this is. Like, it's and you just he's 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:59.880 wearing gloves. I mean, it's like there's it was a 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:01.800 good play to get the ball back and that's how 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.640 you ultimately otherwise you probably lose the game. Yeah, it's 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:07.120 a probably lose three nothing if you because that's where 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.760 they got their field goal after that in right, and 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.120 they ain't punting the ball if they're up three, nothing 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.800 there not doing that. They punted the ball out of bounds. 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.600 It was it was a fantastic recovery, but you immediately 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:21.400 have to counter it with well, why, you know, how 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:23.600 did he fumble it? Why just dropped the ball? He 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.320 was switching hands and I don't really understand why, but 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:28.439 I did think he was. He made a couple of 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:32.080 plays and I thought, you know, as a good I 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.639 thought there was a little bit more creativity offensively today 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.320 at times, um, you know, a little bit more play action, 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:41.199 a little bit more under center throw on first down, 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.400 throwing on early downs. And now it didn't always work 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:45.760 the first down, first play of the games. They get 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:49.920 tacked on first down. Um, so the player the play 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.080 actions that they ran on Hunter Henry's reception. Hunter Henry 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:56.200 had said, and I say, John, who had one, Yeah, singularly, 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.720 his one reception today was the result of great play 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.280 at actually good and good fit you know, good good 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.840 work by Mac. But but I could put all eleven 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:07.160 guys on defense on the good list. I'm sorry, I'm 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:09.239 hard pressed to get anybody on offense on it. It 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.119 was bad. Um, I know, the Jets have a good 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.639 defense too, just like the Patriots did. But you got 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:16.199 to move the ball. I put it. I put a 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:19.280 Harris on there too, just be yeah, Harris booms. Yeah, 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.639 that's you know, eight for sixty five solid day. I mean, 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:24.120 I don't want to, you know, just hand out boot 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.200 case the defense, but I would just I would. I 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.880 would highlight choot On and Uh and Wise kind of together. 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.200 I've got, yeah, I had, I had. I thought Wise 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:33.120 was really good today. Yeah, I just you know, those 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:35.600 guys coming through in some big moments. Um, you know 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:37.920 Mac Wilson as well, a couple you know, key kind 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:40.280 of Wilson was good too. Yeah, I agree, I'll put 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:42.800 I'll put Devon Gacho and there just because there was 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:45.880 a great phone call. There was really a himball. Yeah, 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:47.680 he was happy. They will let's puin him out, let's 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:49.680 give him an honorary good list today. I don't even 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:50.879 think I mean, I think he gets on there for 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.520 his play. I thought he was good un too so, um, 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:55.840 but you know, otherwise I would just say though generally, 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:57.639 like I just think it's the team defense, you know, 0:18:57.680 --> 0:18:59.720 and and as much as you want to highlight individual guys, 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:02.119 I think that they're, you know, playing well together. The 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:03.960 coverages is playing well. I mean, you had the one 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:07.119 what was the thirty four yarder that Jack Jones didn't 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.159 really turn around and look the other guys stopped. But 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.359 other than that, they really didn't give up much of 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:15.040 anything today and they're they're playing well. But like I said, now, 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:16.479 I want to see it against the Vikings. I want 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:18.120 to see it against the Bills. Does it look like 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:22.680 in the next couple of weeks. Okay, let's let's just 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:27.360 let's just get through the I know I'm I'm telling you, 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.080 you really want to see what it looks like. You 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:30.480 want to see what it looks I want to get 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:32.320 hurt again. I want to get hurt. I don't I 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:36.360 don't know that I'm quite ready to say that. Yes, 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:40.159 I am eagerly anticipating how they look against the Minnesota 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:42.920 Vikings on Thursday night. I can't say, why are you 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:44.239 saying that? You're saying that because you think they're going 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:45.520 to get rolled by the Vikings. Do you think the 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.320 Vikings are overrated and that they'll be fine. I'm not 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.080 sure which angle you're coming at it from the first 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:53.080 that they're going to get rolled. So you have no 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:55.560 false sense of security at all with this defense. You 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:59.160 think they're they're paper champions right now. Well, I think Minnesota, 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:02.240 even if if you play against you very good defense, 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:07.040 I think Minnesota can still score ten points, thirteen points, 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:11.479 you know that is okay? And I don't and I 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:13.879 don't know that you can score more than that. And 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:17.080 I know the front seven for the Jets is fantastic, 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:20.080 But I mean, you want to talk about like a 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:22.840 conditions game and it was cold as a little windy. 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:26.040 It wasn't that bad out there. It really wasn't that 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:30.160 level of offense bad. Oh well that was like Buffalo 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:33.280 offense last year, right, I mean, I mean they played 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:35.639 that game like it was in Buffalo last year with 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:40.680 forty mile an hour crossfield sustained wins. That wasn't that. 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.840 That was just that was a November football game, That's 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:47.120 all that was. Yeah. So I no, I am not 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:49.880 I am not looking forward to how this team looks 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:53.800 against a very good football team in the Minnesota Vikings. 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:56.640 Not quite there, ye all right, asked me after ask 0:20:56.720 --> 0:21:00.000 me after a couple of days, like I'm not interested 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:03.280 and watching like until they have an offense that's like, yeah, 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:05.280 you could play defense and winning. You can win games 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:08.840 like this. Sure the defense played great, but I don't 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:10.440 want to watch that. I don't know, I don't know 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:13.520 who wants to watch games like that. Um, how how 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:15.920 much do you want to like get into the bad list? 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:19.560 I mean, it's gonna be it's gonna be entire groups, 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:21.760 It's going to be certain plays, it's gonna be a lot. 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:24.320 I mean, do you want do you want to do 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:26.160 you want to focus in on things now? Or should 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:28.199 we just leave it for the entirety of the post game? 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:30.720 Because I gotta tell you, as as good as you 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:32.880 need to feel, and I'm not going to qualify to win. 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:34.720 It's a win and you're six and four and you 0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:37.639 took care of business. But a part of what I 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:40.280 was saying, you know, like no style points before, I 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:42.879 need to see the game first, Like that was a 0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:47.800 good call by you. Um, can we just start with 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:51.400 the offensive line and just spend a moment talking about 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:54.080 the offensive line? And I know they lost Andrews early on, 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:57.040 but even with Andrews in, it did not look good 0:21:57.080 --> 0:21:58.760 the first play of the game, you know, allow of 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:01.200 your quarterback to be sacked. I mean, come on. Yeah, 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:03.800 when wind goes out too, and then you I don't 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:05.600 know what's going on with Trent Brown was I mean 0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:08.159 I saw some online speculation that he was maybe sick, 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:10.439 but you know that that kind of came out of nowhere. 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:13.680 He was then put in both tackles, had rough times. 0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:15.200 I mean, there were a couple of times it felt 0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:17.000 like they were coming around the corner and meeting at 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:21.760 the quarterback. Um, it's just uh, it's it's not it's 0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:23.600 it's gonna get mac hurt first of all. But I 0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:25.479 mean they just they can't really do anything, and it's 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:28.280 just I think the thing that's hard is that I 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:30.399 saw moments of Matt kind of being comfortable in the 0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:32.200 pocket and then you know, you see that I don't 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:36.280 see that's like all right, there's some time there. But uh, yeah, 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:38.159 just it's it's tough, and then you wonder what's going 0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:40.760 to happen now. Is Andrew's out, you know, thigh injury? 0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:44.040 Was that mean? Um? And his win out? So you 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:46.200 know you might be looking at Yadnika just and James 0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:49.040 Fern's for the immediate future. Certainly with a quick turnaround 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:51.360 in three days, that's that's gonna be a big, big 0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:54.679 storyline this week. I was afraid the way he stood up, 0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:56.640 the way Andrews stood up on that like he had 0:22:56.720 --> 0:22:59.959 broken his femur. I mean it looked like, you know 0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:03.080 something really now, it's hard to imagine a guy that 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:08.239 tough getting like a deep bone bruise or something like 0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:11.320 that and him, you know, unable to walk off the 0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:13.719 field under his own power. He did go down the 0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:15.800 stairs into the locker room under his own power. But 0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:17.919 that's David Andrews. That is a guy who's like, no, 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:20.440 I'm not getting on any cart and being taken off 0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:24.159 the field that way. But I don't know what that 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:26.400 injury could be. It's so were I mean, we were 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:29.840 doing our speculating up there, but you know, first year 0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:31.639 hoping it's like just the Charlie horse. But he was 0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:34.439 really really hurt, and when they declared him out, I 0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:40.200 started thinking real bad stuff. So all right, um, what 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:41.679 else do you want to focus in on? What do 0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:43.400 you have on your bad list that Yeah, it's really 0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:45.359 stuck in your crawl you need to get out. I 0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:47.639 mean I already said the thing about just how frustrating 0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:49.720 it was when they'd string a couple plays together. And 0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:51.359 get close to the red zone and then all of 0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:53.639 a sudden, it was like it was like magnets, like 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:55.800 you flip the magnets around and they start to get close, 0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:58.480 and they just there was this force pushing them back 0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:00.840 away from the red zone. It's just the execution and 0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:03.240 the overall focus of the team as they get close 0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:04.879 to the end zone. I mean, they didn't score a 0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:08.800 touchdown today. There's little reason to see why you think 0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:11.479 they're making strides in that area. I do like some 0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:13.000 of the things they did on offense, but the red 0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:15.159 zone and the execution when they get close to the 0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:20.320 red zone remains a mess. Hi boss Man Fred Kirtch 0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:22.800 joining us now in the post game. What's up there, Fred? Oh, 0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:25.800 you know, just uh, you know that game was like 0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:28.280 those Twitter videos you see and it says wait for 0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:32.320 the end. That's that's the way this game was. Yeah, 0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:34.520 we're not going to focus a whole lot of think 0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:36.080 on the bad list. We took care of the very 0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:38.399 short good list. We're going to talk about, you know, 0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:41.399 the way things went during the game. But I mean, obviously, 0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:45.280 the the offense is a big, big concern right now 0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:47.800 and how they're going to be able to match up. Defensively, 0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:50.679 We'll give them credit where it's due, but offensively, if 0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:53.160 you're not able to move the ball effectively and you're 0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:57.480 not able to protect your quarterback, I'll take the win. 0:24:57.520 --> 0:24:59.879 I'll absolutely take the position they put themselves in. But 0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:01.640 it makes you wonder how things are going to look 0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:03.520 here in the coming weeks, especially when they have to 0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.399 put they got to get back on the field in 0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:07.760 a few short days. And then long after that, you 0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:11.800 knew things we're not going to be perfect when you 0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:16.359 saw could you starting and Win starting and Trent Brown 0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:19.520 We're starting where you're like, what's going on? You know? 0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:25.359 Up We're trying, you know, trying to figure out exactly 0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:28.600 what the level of health is for some of these guys. 0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:31.159 But this is a conversation we've had with a lot 0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:33.800 of these guys in the game. I mean, I I 0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:36.640 don't want to make it sound like we're doing any 0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:41.120 excuse making because it hasn't mattered a whole lot personnel 0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:43.080 wise who has been in during the year. There there 0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:46.040 are times when everybody is has done the whole offenses 0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:49.000 out of sink. It goes from the coaching on down, 0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:51.320 and I don't know, like if you talked about it. 0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:54.159 But I was really upset when they decided to go 0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:56.760 for it on fourth and three. That's my biggest thing 0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:58.560 on the bad list. I haven't got a field goal 0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:01.200 in a game like this. They weren't in field goal range. 0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:03.639 You punt, I mean punt. I'm sorry, you punt, and 0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:07.520 a game like this, you punt. Then it was second 0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:12.560 and two or three and Max sneaks. Now everybody's assuming 0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:15.800 that it was Max's call, that he did that on 0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:19.239 his own, but my inside sources are telling me it 0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:23.280 was a call play stupid. I don't care whose decision 0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:25.200 it was. It was a bad decision. I agree with 0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:27.520 the last part there. Yeah, I don't care who's whose 0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:29.399 call it was. If you sneak, you make you have 0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:31.159 to get it right second and two, you have to 0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:33.160 get it, get it, yeah, you know, but I hate 0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:35.840 that when you have second and very short and you 0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:38.480 sneak it. Yeah. I don't like that when your offense 0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:41.760 is good, right, yeah, exactly, let alone when it's bad. Yeah, Well, 0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:44.040 on second and short, two is usually a down and 0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:46.600 distance that you might like to get a little creative 0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:49.960 or you know, yeah, kind of dial something. Absolutely, you know, 0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:54.720 So I hated that, but the fourth and three from 0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:58.680 the thirty six yard line, you know, to me, it 0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:01.280 completely allowed. Now they got away with it because the 0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:05.680 Patriots defense just completely suffocated New York. But the only 0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:09.520 way you were losing that game was a turnover slash 0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:14.280 field position kind of thing where you know, the Patriots 0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:16.480 had a situation where they were punting the ball and 0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:21.200 they were pinning the Jets inside their ten getting three 0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:24.480 and out. It's getting the ball back around midfield. Just 0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:28.560 keep doing it until you finally score, right, and now 0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:30.160 all of a sudden, you go for a fourth down 0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:33.359 from the thirty six you gets stuffed. Now the Jets 0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:35.800 have twenty plus yards of field position that they didn't have. 0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:39.320 It was twenty yards plus. We're watching the play right now. 0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:40.600 It's like, all right, you're gonna go for it on 0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:43.959 fourth down? What do you do? Long delay sweep? You know, 0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:47.320 because that's been working really well. And so I gave 0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:49.560 them credit for you know, I did think they did 0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:52.280 some different things offensively today and showed some creativity. I 0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.520 gave him credit for that in the good list. But 0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:56.720 I agree with Fred. I think that was an egregiously 0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:59.120 bad decision by Bill Belichick to go for you. He's 0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:01.720 the guy who I don't even care about the play, 0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:05.080 just the decision to go for it. Um, that could 0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.560 have cost you the game. Now the Jets. The Patriots 0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.359 offense bailed them out because they completely stuffed the Jets. 0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:13.280 I can't separate myself completely. I care about the play too, 0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:17.320 because the play call was so horrific and just it 0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:22.040 it goes against you know, anybody with any lick of 0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:24.680 sense watching this team this year is saying like, well, 0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:28.000 you know that doesn't work. I know you. I know 0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:30.719 you've been trying it since camp and it's your shiny 0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:33.200 nude toy that you somehow think is going to be fun. 0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.439 It doesn't work. It's not working. You need to stop 0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:39.040 doing it. When should you? When should you really not 0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:40.880 do it on a fourth and three that you shouldn't 0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:43.960 be going for anyway. I mean, I don't know how 0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:46.560 many times you can double down on the decision and 0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:49.600 the play call. But it's both, and it starts with 0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:51.200 the decision. I'd get it if you just want to 0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:54.800 leave it, they're fine, but I can't separate the actual 0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:59.479 play either. UM. I gotta tell you this is this 0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:05.200 is really nitpicky. But the dropped interceptions, especially the one 0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:09.880 from Accordy. Yeah, it's right, it's just it's right there, 0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:13.400 it's it's it's it's a veteran player, it's a guy 0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:17.560 that you expect to be able to just write in 0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:21.720 the chest. The mccordy one was bad. I cut Jonathan Jones. 0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:24.600 I assume that's the other one you're talking about. Jonathan Jones. 0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:26.280 He was laying out that'd be a tough guy. I 0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:28.680 don't think that's a drop. The mccordy one was a drop. 0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:31.720 That's a drop. Um. I had that on my on 0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:36.800 my bad list of just things that really really bothered me. Um, 0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:40.880 I I'll throw uh. I just Thornton, I mean everybody, 0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:44.320 And I know, like one fumble that didn't technically count 0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:47.640 is really probably reason to land on there. But the 0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:50.240 more that we all watch that, the more real way. Yeah, 0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.360 and and just and I think it connects for me 0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.160 to the fact that we get all these calls about 0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:56.680 like get Thornton involved, you know, and it's just disappointing. 0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:58.960 They're trying to get him involved early and you know, 0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:00.320 he puts the ball in the ground. And I mean, 0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:02.280 I think you know, they seem to pull him. So, 0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:05.040 I mean, I it was a really close play. I'm 0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:07.920 not sure if that. I've seen a couple this year 0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:11.200 that were called fumbles on plays like that, two full steps, 0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:13.719 a third one really close to hitting the you know, 0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:16.240 maybe maybe maybe not the third one that was a 0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:19.240 fortunate play. That's a touchdown. They're inside the five. And 0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:20.880 it's just the mistakes like this that are going to 0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:23.200 continue to hurt his development and keep him off the 0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:25.640 field and you know, not not make them able to say, 0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:27.080 hey this kids are going to make plays. Let's get 0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:29.280 him more involved. Now he's going to continue to be 0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:31.360 kind of in the middling, you know, area of receivers 0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:33.360 that aren't really produced. Like you know, as frustrated as 0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:35.840 wey are. If you're a Jets fan, oh my god, 0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.600 you have to be killing yourself. I mean, they've got 0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:41.480 a problem with Zach Wilson. This is a guy after 0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:43.520 the last game who came out and said, yeah, we'll 0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:45.760 see them in two weeks. And then this is what 0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:47.840 you bole. Teams have the same problem. But I know, 0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:49.920 but they have absolutely no confidence in their quarter. But 0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:52.440 this is what you put up. I mean, he thinks 0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:57.560 he's good that's the problem. He thinks he's good. They 0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:01.040 I don't understand what's the difference. You can't We don't 0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.360 think it's three three with five seconds left from the game. 0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:05.840 I don't know how we're like puffing our chests out 0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:07.880 like we have. Both have the same problem. They have 0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:11.080 good defense, no offense, quarterback can't score. Well, you don't 0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:13.760 think if you're a Jets fan you're frustrated with your quarterback. Yeah, 0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:16.080 every bit as frustrated as I am as a Patriots 0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:19.240 fan right now. I'm frustrated that I can't move the 0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:22.080 ball and I can't score points despite as Hardy said, 0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:25.600 taken over at midfield throughout the second half. Yeah, I 0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:28.719 really don't take much solace in time of possession or 0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:32.120 the yards or anything else, you know, because again, you know, 0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:34.920 Socie and Zille were talking about this, you know, the Patriots. 0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:37.040 If I'll played the Jets today and they did all 0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:41.760 the Patriots, absolutely, I'll play the Jets today. What doesn't matter. 0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:44.680 What does it matter if you can't convert when you 0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:47.920 need to and score points. And I'm not going to 0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:50.600 put him on the bad list, but I'm sorry Nick 0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:52.760 Folk missed a couple of field goals today and what 0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.920 was not a driving howling win because you don't put 0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:57.760 Nick Folk on the bad list. I'm not gonna put 0:31:57.800 --> 0:31:58.960 him on the Are you gonna put him on the 0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:03.560 bad list? I would, Yeah, missed a fieldicles, but put 0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:05.120 them in the put them on the bad list then. 0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:09.920 But this is like an entirety of the game. You 0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:12.800 talk about who got out played today? Yeah, I guess 0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:18.680 statistically the Patriots were able to complete more passes and 0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:22.200 run the but but so what some When it comes 0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:27.560 down to it, you scored three points on offense today. Three? Okay, 0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:31.280 you're absolutely right coming out of the game. Which team 0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:36.080 should have more hope? If you got a quarter in 0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.120 your pocket, I'll flip it like, I don't have any 0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:40.520 hope for either team right now. If I'm the Jets, 0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:42.960 I have no hope. I feel well, let me put 0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:46.000 it to you this way. If I'm the Patriots, hope that, 0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:49.640 like the Jets have some degree of hope because they 0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:51.600 prove that they can show up and beat a team 0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:53.800 like Buffalo. How much hope do you have that the 0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:56.880 Patriots can go to Minnesota and went on Thursday night. Oh, 0:32:56.920 --> 0:33:02.120 they could do that. But anything that's possible. Yeah, I 0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:04.640 just don't have like and you're talking about faith and hope. 0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:07.400 I don't know how you can come out of that 0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:10.400 game either side. Maybe Marcus Jones can return whatever. I 0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:13.800 don't know. There's evidence that the Jets can beat a 0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:17.800 real football team, because they did they beat Buffalo. So far, 0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:23.240 the Patriots haven't done that. Honest question, honest answer. If 0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:25.920 let's just say that they go down in the punt 0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:28.880 return was three yards, they go to overtime, what does 0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:32.560 everybody think the outcome of the game is. So? I mean, 0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:33.760 I don't know how you can come out of that 0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:41.400 with any degree of hope, like harmonize that I said 0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.480 about halfway through the third quarter, this game is either 0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:46.120 going to be decided by a a blocked punt or 0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:49.400 b a punt return. Yeah, I said it about halfway 0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:51.400 through the third quarter. Someone's gonna block a punt or 0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:53.800 someone's gonna return a punt. That's the only way someone's 0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:56.440 scoring in this game. Well, that's also because about half 0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:59.680 the plays in the game were punts. I mean, right again, 0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:03.480 So because my quarterback went twenty three for twenty seven 0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:05.440 and the other quarterback went nine for twenty two, I 0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:08.080 don't care neither team moved the ball and neither team scored. 0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:12.600 I care seventeen punts. I think your quarterback was shaky 0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:16.319 as hell today with those six sacks. He costs them 0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:20.080 points constantly. I don't know what what what the hope 0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:22.200 is for. All I'll say is that stare down the 0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:24.879 barrel of almost losing that game and what like the 0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.359 alternative would have been to blow that game. I don't 0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:28.839 know where the Patriots are had it. I just know 0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:30.640 I think the season would have ended if they lost. 0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:32.719 At least you've got some hope for the next few 0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:35.000 days to see. We'll see what We'll go to Minnesota. 0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:37.920 Every point you made about their offense and everything is apt, 0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.040 but you know it's it's these are these are good 0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:42.080 teams now that they're gonna have to play, so there's 0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:44.960 no more we were able to not let them get 0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:47.120 a first down after the second half, like you're not 0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:50.160 gonna be a whole teams like that. So but considering 0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:52.440 the alternative, I'll take it. Yeah. I mean, do I 0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:56.000 eliminate their chances to be Minnesota or Buffalo or Miami 0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:59.759 or Vegas or no, they could they could win games 0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:02.520 over those teams. I don't think they'll win enough of 0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:06.280 them not playing. You can't play like this. You can't 0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:09.680 just try to like play around your quarterback constantly and win. 0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:15.760 And I second and two quarterbacks sneak And if Fred's 0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:18.359 telling me now it was a called play, like that's 0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:21.759 playing around your quarterback. You know, I don't know. You 0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:24.400 know that they did what they needed to do to 0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:26.239 win the game today. I would have done the same thing, 0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:27.719 I thought, because I think the only way you were 0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:29.399 going to lose that game is turning the ball over. 0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:31.960 So did you initially think that it was a broken play? 0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:35.839 And Matt just decided to tell I thought he just called, 0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:39.480 Yeah that's what I took it, Okay, yeah, all right, 0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.239 But Freddy's got some inside dope. Well, to me, it 0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:45.560 looked like that, I mean, just the way it unfolded, 0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:48.000 like right there in front of us. I'm like, because 0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:50.239 I looked at Louth. He said the same thing, he said, 0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:54.880 what does that play? It looked like that was the play? Right? Yeah, 0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:58.560 I don't know. I don't know. Uh injured. I hated 0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:01.040 when they did it with Brady. Was our team just 0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:04.840 dumb um? Yeah? But well talked about David Andrews, and 0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:09.080 we talked about isay when um Marcus Jones. Apparently apparently 0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:13.640 he's okay. He saved he saved the season, so evidently 0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:16.640 he's okaya. The Kurt's shilling the tape up his ankle 0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:18.440 that put me in coach, I got one more return 0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:21.080 in me. He limped onto the field and uh yeah, 0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:23.239 eighty plus yards later, I mean they are trying to 0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:27.160 get Smith involved. Oh yeah, you know. Um. By the way, 0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:29.560 there were a lot of Jets fans in front of 0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:31.759 us today as there you know normally are there's you know, 0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:35.160 pockets of the visiting team section, and it was from 0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:37.600 a Jets fan because we could identify his voice. He 0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:41.760 was yelling after another one of the numerous injury timeouts. 0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:43.799 There was the Jets higher down on the field and 0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:48.160 you heard this guy specifically say, oh god, come off. 0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:52.279 That was us up in the first pots too. I 0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:54.320 don't know how the game got over as fast as 0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:55.960 I don't need to seem like there was an I mean, 0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:58.720 there was all punts, all injuries in the game was delayed, 0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:03.440 but it was also all well, it wasn't all running plays. No, 0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:07.120 I don't know. I don't know. There were no offensive plays. 0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:11.200 I'm trying to remember. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out 0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:13.080 how the clock kept running and how it got over 0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:15.920 as soon as it did. Let me throw this out there. 0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:17.680 Thank you to Tom Sean Millers for sending me this. 0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:20.840 Ian Rappaport says Patriots center David Andrews is feared to 0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:23.320 have suffered a serious thigh injury that could end his seasons. 0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:25.240 So said, my guess is that he broke his femur. 0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:27.520 He'll have more testing done to determine the extent. But 0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:29.759 now that's what I was thinking. Well that's what I 0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:31.480 thought too. I said it before you even came in, 0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:34.839 that it looked like a broken leg because the way 0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:37.560 he couldn't put any weight on it at all. In it, 0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:41.440 you know, that's it. Just it looked like maybe that 0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:44.279 was I mean, that's the most significant bone breaking. I 0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:46.719 believe me. I know a lot about it. I unfortunately 0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:48.319 know a lot about it. What does that rehab? Like, 0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:50.520 how long does that takes like a whole year? It's 0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:54.239 like six months? Then, well, it all depends on what 0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:56.759 kind of surgery he'll have. Like for my son, he 0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:59.920 had to have a plate with with nine screws put 0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:02.880 in and it was nine months, I mean six months 0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:05.040 before you could get that played out. And then it 0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:08.719 was another you know, like another month or so with 0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:10.799 him not you know, I think it was three more 0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:14.360 months with no contact. That's a very very significant injury 0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:18.319 for anybody. Broken femur if I mean we're speculating, I 0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:21.960 mean Ian Rapood says serious thigh injury, torn quad. I 0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:24.560 mean we speculated. To me, that's not a serious thigh injury, 0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:30.040 like serious to me is a broken bone. But all right, um, 0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:32.759 I'm gonna grab some calls here. Anybody else have anything good? 0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:35.200 Bandage him. We're gonna take a break real quick, says 0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:38.480 Marie Matt. Let's do that. Let's also thank us cyber Reason, 0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:41.160 the presenters of the Patriots postgame show. Great defenders don't 0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:43.920 just play on the field, they're also protecting your company 0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:46.960 and data. Cyber Reason on admission to end ransomware and 0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:50.200 keep your business undefeated against cyber attacks. Learn more at 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:54.480 cyber reason dot com. 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I mean, I don't want 0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:36.200 to be doom in gloom, but do you think the 0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:38.560 offense is going to figure anything out this year live 0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:44.640 from our studios inside Galette Stadium. Here's Hardy Wow. Well 0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:47.640 you'll answer your own question. They're dooce. Did they figuring 0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:50.239 out anything today? I don't look like it. No. They 0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:52.919 had a couple of new twists, you know, a couple 0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:55.719 of plays. Well, the problem is when the Patriots just 0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:59.879 lined up, the Jets are just better. They're they're from 0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:03.279 is just better. So if if the Jets line up 0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:06.080 in the right the Patriots aren't going to have success. 0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:08.719 They had to use a little deception, especially once it 0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:12.720 got into deference and you know that that part of it. Yeah, uh, 0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:16.279 let us go to the phones here. We'll start with Uh. 0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:20.040 I'm gonna go with Mika. Could be Mica in Delaware. 0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.839 We'll find out momentarily. You're on the Patriots postgame show. 0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:25.799 How do you pronounce your name a little person? It's 0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:31.200 Micah all right, like like Parsons Like. I was just 0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:33.480 like racking member and watching that game, thinking about things 0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:37.000 I'd rather do than be watching that football game. I 0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:40.240 was thinking about listening to Paul talk about his fantasy team. 0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:44.760 I don't do that. Eric. Do you stand up comedy? Yeah? 0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:49.200 Like anything, I really, I'm just I'm just so happy 0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:51.720 Marcus Jones hold it out at the end there, because 0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:53.279 not like I don't care to we won at all, 0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:56.080 Like just the end of the the game, I go the 0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:58.840 prospect of like a full like ten minute overtime back 0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:01.799 and punt and punt and punt, and that was such 0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:06.719 a relief, give me out. But Paul got in a 0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:08.720 little bit trouble a couple of weeks ago talking about 0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:12.799 Minster Stevenson being the best player on the team. But 0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:15.960 we still have the same record if we didn't have him, 0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.440 And I think this is like a great example of that. 0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:21.640 I think, you know, obviously the stats don't bear it out, 0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:23.880 but some of the plays that he made, the broken 0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:27.000 cackles and things that he was like able to turn 0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:30.520 nothing into something like that's really great talent. And it's 0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:33.520 just it just doesn't matter if that's really the only 0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:35.799 thing that's going on in the field. Yeah, that was 0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:38.759 you know, you're right, Mica, because today was a game 0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:40.400 that kind of illustrated the point. I thought he was 0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:43.399 really good, you know, but he averaged less than two 0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:47.880 yards of Gary Like he didn't he wasn't responsible really 0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:50.400 for any of their offense. That, you know, because any 0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:53.000 of their production, because they had no production. So even 0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:56.000 when you had an individual that played well, it's not 0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:59.759 really a difference maker at especially at that position. But 0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:02.000 it doesn't mean he hasn't played well. And I think 0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:04.800 he's he's played very well. And I thought Damian Harris 0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:06.360 gave them a little spark today. I thought he was 0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:08.960 had a little juice to his game. The thing that 0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:11.680 but again that didn't translate to anything either. No, it didn't, 0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:14.040 Mike it thanks to the call. I'll just say this, Paul, 0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:16.520 while you're watching the game before you know that they're 0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:18.520 not going to say get into the end zone and 0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:20.080 they're not going to do anything more than the one 0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:24.959 field goal offensively. As I was watching the game, I said, 0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:28.759 if it's not for Romandre Stevenson and Damien Harris, they 0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:32.600 have no offense today. And Stevenson, he was he caught 0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:34.960 all six balls that were throwing his way. You know, 0:44:35.000 --> 0:44:37.200 it's not just the rushing in the in the horrific 0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:40.440 you know average that he put together together for the rushing. 0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:43.600 If if you're being honest, you have to say, if 0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:47.239 it weren't for those two guys, it's even more unwatchable 0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:49.640 than it was. That's and I'm not giving him credit 0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:51.840 for having a great offensive day. I'm just saying, but 0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:53.960 absolutely those were the guys. That's why we put him 0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:56.799 on the good list. Okay, all right, yeah absolutely, I'm 0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:59.719 just saying to win the game anyway, It's my point. 0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:04.480 But the two biggest plays where Hunter Henry and Jono Smith, right, well, 0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:06.359 I think it was the run, the thirty yard run 0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:10.439 away Damien Harris twenty two yard runs really the Hunter 0:45:10.520 --> 0:45:13.120 Henry played. Jon Smith had a twenty six yard catch, 0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:17.480 the Hunter Henry reception. I think it was his only target. 0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:20.680 I know it was one catch twenty yards. That was 0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:24.319 one of the few players today that looked like offense. Yeah, 0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:26.560 play acts. That's what I said about the design. I 0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:29.319 thought that they at least showed a little creativity today 0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:32.680 and squeaked some you know, they leaked some tight ends 0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:35.360 out into areas where they were able to catch the 0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:38.560 Jets out of position because when they lined up they 0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:41.759 couldn't move the ball in inch throughout the day. But 0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:45.240 they had some chunk plays today, it just didn't translate 0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:47.440 to any any points. Let's go to Eric in New 0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:52.040 Jersey on the Patriots postgame show. What's up? Eric? Hey, guys, 0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.160 First question, dude, you said you call him Mac made 0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:57.800 some throws that he hasn't made before. Oh what throws 0:45:57.800 --> 0:45:59.520 were they? Because I didn't. I didn't, I didn't see 0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:01.839 any of that. Um. So, I mean, I'm not saying 0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:03.960 like overall, like he's never made throws. He just to me, 0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:06.160 on a few of his passes, he looked more comfortable 0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:07.680 in the pocket than he's looked in the last couple 0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:09.239 of weeks. I'm not saying all of a sudden he was, 0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:11.759 you know, making all amazing throws that we haven't seen. 0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:13.680 But I just I just thought he had some places 0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:15.480 he looked. He looked a little bit more comfortable to 0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:18.160 me today overall than he has in the last couple 0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:20.920 of weeks. Okay, I got you. Um, And I'm much 0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:22.840 of a homer. I'm much of a homer as Fred 0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:25.640 and I won't. You know, I won't. I won't attack Fred. 0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:29.560 That fall's job. But this this, I mean Mac, like, 0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:32.360 I mean, the offense isn't I mean the offense in general, 0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:34.440 you can just I mean, you can throw it all 0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:36.759 all in the same bags. I just don't know how 0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:40.200 like I've seen enough. There's just no confidence. I mean, 0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:42.359 watching this game, I was better off watching the high 0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:45.720 school football games. I mean, this was Cam Newton offense 0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:49.160 at UM. I just don't know how. There's just nothing. 0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:51.080 There's just nothing again, you can move the ball between 0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:53.399 the hashes. Uh, you know when you get down into 0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:55.359 that you know passage, you know in the red area 0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:58.040 of you know, past the thirty it's just pedestrian. I mean, 0:46:58.200 --> 0:47:01.200 at what point you know you can't keep hanging hanging 0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:03.000 your hat on Nick Folk. You know he's due for 0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:05.560 a bad game, and you know whether you know, but 0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:08.320 even Tom you got you got to muscle some balls 0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:10.480 in there. I know, you know Max doesn't have the 0:47:10.520 --> 0:47:12.400 strongest onm but at some point in your career you're 0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:14.240 gonna have to. You're gonna have to muscle some balls 0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:16.200 in there. And I mean, I just don't know how 0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:18.960 we take any any confidence. I mean, how many weeks 0:47:19.040 --> 0:47:21.880 is this that we keep talking about the offense not scoring, 0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:24.480 especially getting down in the red area that you know, 0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:26.399 at what point is it going to change? And I'll 0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:28.480 take it off the line, but I mean, guys, in 0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:30.759 the let's we gotta be realist here. How how are 0:47:30.760 --> 0:47:32.400 we going to compete with the Bengals, you know, some 0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:34.839 of these good teams when we get down into that area, 0:47:34.920 --> 0:47:36.600 and it's just I just don't see any hope that, 0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:38.400 you know, we can score any points. And I appreciate 0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:40.719 a guys, thank you. Guys. Well, it's assuming you can 0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:42.719 get down into that, they're gonna have to figure it out. 0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:45.520 You're not winning games on punt returns with five seconds 0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:47.960 left every week. It's just you have to have to 0:47:47.960 --> 0:47:50.000 figure out how to how to move the ball. They 0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:51.920 haven't moved the ball in over a month, that is, 0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:54.880 I think five straight games under three hundred yards. Like 0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:58.359 I mean it, it's just it's what it is. Yeah, 0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:02.200 it's what it is. They can't score, and until they 0:48:02.200 --> 0:48:05.040 figure out how to score, you're not beating any team 0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:10.840 of any significance. Let's go to Dave in Chicago Patriots 0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:17.680 postgame show. Hi Dave, what's going on? Hey guys, what's up? Hey? Hey? 0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:21.400 So yeah, one of the things. By the way, I 0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:24.319 love the show and just enjoying it. Thank you. I 0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:26.480 was cracking up earlier when you guys did that thing 0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:30.759 with the synchronized tie. Me and my buddies were doing 0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:32.520 the same thing. We're like, how's this game gonna end? 0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:37.840 We're like time, we all saw it happening. And but anyway, 0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:40.600 one of the things that bothered me in this game, 0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:42.600 you know, it's such a tight game and you got 0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:48.000 all the defense holding it down, is nobody's scoring and 0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:52.200 mac Jones is just taking sack as soon as they 0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:53.920 get down to the twenty yard line. It's just like 0:48:53.960 --> 0:48:56.200 he's given himself up. I know some of them, you know, 0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:58.600 he kind of got knocked over by Trent Brown on 0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:00.880 one of them, but there was one where he's just 0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:02.440 like an arm hit him in the leg and he's 0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:05.319 just like, yeah, like they needed he needed to throw 0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:07.880 the ball away. He needed to do this Wilson thing, 0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:10.799 like to throw the ball away and you can kick 0:49:10.840 --> 0:49:14.319 field goals. Get three point yes, right, I agree with you. 0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:16.879 Losing my mind they got to the seven, they ended 0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:19.640 up on the twenty nine. Yeah, I couldn't believe it. 0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:21.560 I was like, just get three point. I was like, 0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:23.480 six to three. That's the final sport. If you can 0:49:23.520 --> 0:49:26.560 get three, the game's over. Like I was just so 0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:30.640 frustrated by that. Um and um oh another thing kind 0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:32.840 of cracked you have you guys seen that meme lately 0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:36.600 with Lebron, where you know he's like predicting the future. 0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:38.919 He's like, oh yeah, you know, I watched the high 0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:42.560 school tape of like This Guy, and I called it 0:49:42.680 --> 0:49:45.000 right before it happened. That kind of cracked me up 0:49:45.040 --> 0:49:48.279 when I heard Faull say, you know, I think they're 0:49:48.280 --> 0:49:51.080 gonna have a punt return or like a block punt here. 0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:53.239 That's what's gonna end the game. I said it in 0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:55.399 the third quarter, and then it turns out you're right. 0:49:56.280 --> 0:49:58.280 Did you really say that or is that a Lebron 0:49:58.600 --> 0:50:01.719 asked Mike. I mean it's I mean, you can all 0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:03.279 feel it. Yeah. I mean if it wasn't that, it 0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:05.240 was gonna now I'm not gonna lie. I was leaning 0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:08.239 more toward the blocked punt because I actually think a 0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:11.000 punt return would show skill, and I didn't think there 0:50:11.000 --> 0:50:13.719 was any skill on display today. But you like Marcus Jones. 0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:16.960 I love Marcus Jones, He's my favorite rookie by fuck um. 0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:20.280 But I thought it would be a play on special 0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:22.560 teams or you know, a turnover. But I had mentioned 0:50:22.600 --> 0:50:24.759 someone's gonna block a punt or return a punt, and 0:50:24.800 --> 0:50:26.719 that's how the game's gonna end. I didn't think it 0:50:26.760 --> 0:50:28.360 was gonna be like on the last I was just saying, 0:50:28.560 --> 0:50:30.200 at some point in the game, I didn't think it 0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:33.400 was going to be a walk off, you know, Sean Jackson, 0:50:33.480 --> 0:50:36.840 like you know for the the Eagles against the Giants 0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:40.080 one hundred years ago. In terms of the officiating today, 0:50:40.080 --> 0:50:42.560 and this didn't have any impact on the game whatsoever. 0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:44.840 But there were a couple of bad play calls. And 0:50:44.880 --> 0:50:47.120 he mentioned the uh, you know, just in the in 0:50:47.160 --> 0:50:50.839 the punting game, the roughing the kicker call. Yeah, that 0:50:51.040 --> 0:50:53.200 was the subject for some debate up in our up 0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:54.960 in our section. I thought he landed on the guy, 0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:57.360 and that's a penalty five yard put five yard, not 0:50:57.520 --> 0:51:00.640 a fifteen. Yeah. And and the fun alley of that 0:51:00.760 --> 0:51:03.439 fourth and five, how many was it three times? Oh 0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:05.839 my gosh, three times they had to do that? Played 0:51:05.880 --> 0:51:07.880 that we didn't get enough punts today. We needed to 0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:10.680 get a couple of them replayed. But watching it on 0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:14.200 the replay, I thought, in no way should was that 0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:17.120 a penalty even in today's NFL. I didn't think they 0:51:17.200 --> 0:51:19.319 got that one correct. So we'll guys talk about the 0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:22.680 delay of the game. Yeah, ten minutes at the start 0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:25.600 power outage in the trucks. I thought supposedly there was 0:51:25.640 --> 0:51:29.279 an accident on Route one that caused a power surge. Yeah, 0:51:29.280 --> 0:51:32.880 we CBS truck. Yeah we noticed it when we were 0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:34.880 on the pregame show. The TV went out and all 0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:36.960 these TVs went out, and Matt all of a sudden 0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:41.040 went into like checking buttons mode. You know, but that, 0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:43.279 but that, So that just knocked us back ten minutes 0:51:43.320 --> 0:51:47.879 where they said everything actually just five Yeah. Um, I 0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:55.520 don't know, Uh you say surge or an outlet seas, No, 0:51:55.800 --> 0:51:58.640 I like that. All I know is I got a 0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:02.480 chance to eat a delightful lunch upstairs of keish and 0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:06.920 steak tips. I didn't have any steak tips. I had 0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:09.799 to had a strip of bacon and chicken and make 0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:11.759 it down series in time for kickoffs up. You know, 0:52:11.960 --> 0:52:14.600 you know, I didn't mind. It was fun. I didn't 0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:16.200 want to miss a second of that game. I tell 0:52:16.239 --> 0:52:19.920 you that. Uh. Scott in Michigan, Scott on the Patriots 0:52:19.920 --> 0:52:24.920 postgame show, Hello, hey guys, how are you good? Good good? 0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:27.880 Can you hear me? Yeah, so a lot of the 0:52:28.000 --> 0:52:31.040 other callers have stolen my fun to hear about moving 0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:33.520 the ball. But I guess what I want to ask 0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:37.120 you guys analysts, we're all bemoaning the stack, but when 0:52:37.200 --> 0:52:41.600 it comes to red zone possessions, is it just total 0:52:41.760 --> 0:52:45.880 system failure or what's the one or two issues that 0:52:46.040 --> 0:52:50.480 preventing the teams he's scoring a touchdown, what are the 0:52:50.600 --> 0:52:53.600 issues that's preventing them from scoring touch What's going on? 0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:56.120 And you think it's just way calling, is a lack 0:52:56.160 --> 0:53:00.919 of execution? Is it all of the above? Ye, well, 0:53:00.960 --> 0:53:03.400 it's a it's a combination. And I think that the 0:53:03.440 --> 0:53:05.239 best way to put it is how we discussed. When 0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:08.600 they do pick up a you know, a big play 0:53:08.920 --> 0:53:11.359 on a third down and they get themselves a bit, 0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:14.640 the first thing that seems to happen is either a 0:53:14.760 --> 0:53:16.879 no gain or a loss of two on the very 0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:19.440 next play, and it puts it. It's it's almost this 0:53:19.800 --> 0:53:22.040 you know, resignation to where, well, we're not going to 0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:24.040 do it this time either, because now we just pushed 0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:26.799 ourselves back in the whole. Whatever gains we just picked up, 0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:28.880 what are this first down? It's going to be squandered. 0:53:29.000 --> 0:53:31.319 You you have that sense watching the game and it's 0:53:31.360 --> 0:53:33.840 got to permeate down out of the field quite Frankly, 0:53:33.920 --> 0:53:35.920 I don't know how Marcus Jone was able to bust 0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:38.600 free and go eighty four yards because the whole game 0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:43.520 had a feeling of it's not happening today, guys. It's 0:53:43.520 --> 0:53:46.080 just not nothing's gonna work today. The fact that he 0:53:46.120 --> 0:53:49.400 busted loose and made in the end. But to me, 0:53:49.520 --> 0:53:52.319 the biggest thing is the short of the field. The 0:53:52.400 --> 0:53:55.719 more the Patriots offensive line is overmatched, you know, they 0:53:55.760 --> 0:53:59.040 just can't they can't execute. Yeah, I mean, and I 0:53:59.080 --> 0:54:00.600 would I would build on that and just say I 0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:02.919 think in the red zone all of the issues come out. 0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:05.520 So whether it's the play call, whether it's the quarterback play, 0:54:05.960 --> 0:54:08.440 the tight windows, you know, the confidence that they have 0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:11.680 within their scheme to throw with anticipation. Also the lack 0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:14.960 of downfield explosive scoring plays. I mean, they've gotten they 0:54:15.000 --> 0:54:17.160 had a few twenty plus yard plays today, but they're 0:54:17.200 --> 0:54:18.960 not getting into end zone, so they're not getting from 0:54:19.000 --> 0:54:20.960 far distance. And when they get into a close distance, 0:54:21.440 --> 0:54:23.360 everything is sped up. I Mean, we taught in the 0:54:23.360 --> 0:54:25.239 pre game how much time they spend in the red zone, 0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:27.200 how everything down there. It's such a critical part of 0:54:27.200 --> 0:54:29.440 the game. So I just think that is what brings 0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:31.399 out all of their issues, and it's hard to point 0:54:31.400 --> 0:54:33.560 to just one thing, but everything is on display when 0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:38.360 they get inside next week indoors, everything's gonna be fixed. Ye, 0:54:39.520 --> 0:54:41.160 all right, we're gonna get it all done in the 0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:44.319 next two days of practice. The players are good enough. 0:54:45.200 --> 0:54:48.200 I think it's a simple like we can talk about 0:54:48.239 --> 0:54:51.000 the play calling and all we want. I thought there 0:54:51.040 --> 0:54:53.080 were times where he had plenty of time to look 0:54:53.080 --> 0:54:54.759 for a guy today and got sacked. I thought there 0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:56.960 were times where you got sacked immediately. I thought there 0:54:57.000 --> 0:55:00.680 were times where they had chances to make some yards 0:55:00.680 --> 0:55:03.959 on running plates and they didn't. And then, like Fred said, 0:55:04.040 --> 0:55:06.360 they're just so inconsistent when they get down close and 0:55:06.400 --> 0:55:09.600 the field gets shorter. I think that's when when the 0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:12.960 other team, like you know today, can't we just kind 0:55:12.960 --> 0:55:15.040 of give the other team a little credit and just 0:55:15.080 --> 0:55:16.960 say the Jets have a better defense than the Patriots 0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:19.600 have an offense, just like the Patriots defense was better 0:55:19.600 --> 0:55:22.160 than the Jets off by far. Yeah. I mean. The 0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:24.520 point to though, is like it's one thing to stop 0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:25.719 them when they get to the red zone. It's the 0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:27.560 other thing that you're going backwards when you get to 0:55:27.640 --> 0:55:29.520 the red zone. And I don't really credit the Jets 0:55:29.600 --> 0:55:31.640 d with pushing them back. I credit the Patriots with 0:55:31.760 --> 0:55:36.120 being poor execution, stupid mistakes. You know, those things are 0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:38.560 killing them. Talk to me about mac Jones staying in 0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:41.240 the pocket. He loves staying in the pocket. For better 0:55:41.400 --> 0:55:44.959 or worse? Is it is? Is he unable to roll 0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:48.520 out and create anything outside of the pocket, Because what 0:55:48.640 --> 0:55:51.240 do you say, okay, is that Friday he missed Myers. 0:55:51.400 --> 0:55:53.880 He could have had Myers for first down. And he 0:55:53.920 --> 0:55:55.800 can't throw on the run, so he can't throw on 0:55:55.840 --> 0:55:58.040 the run. And by the way, he went down a 0:55:58.040 --> 0:56:01.160 couple of times easily today. Zach Wilson, Yeah, he did 0:56:01.160 --> 0:56:03.279 throw it away. He went down a couple of times 0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:06.759 today when he barely one time he went really uh yeah. 0:56:06.800 --> 0:56:08.759 I think it was one of dietrich wises sacks. I 0:56:08.760 --> 0:56:11.000 think he like basically touched him and he kind of tripped, 0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:13.480 but maybe it was a trip. No, no, no no, he 0:56:13.480 --> 0:56:15.920 didn't get tripped. He like just kind of touched him 0:56:15.920 --> 0:56:19.920 and he like tripped over his own called it a swipe. Yeah, yeah, um, 0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:24.919 so that was that was weird. I just I think 0:56:24.960 --> 0:56:28.319 both both teams are suffering from the same issue right now, 0:56:28.360 --> 0:56:32.000 that they're working around their quarterbacks right and neither team 0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:36.600 runs the ball well enough to overcome it. Chris in Scottsdale, 0:56:36.800 --> 0:56:38.719 where I understand there are a bunch of homes who 0:56:38.719 --> 0:56:40.560 are going to be running out of water soon. Chris, 0:56:40.600 --> 0:56:43.600 I hope that's not one of your one of your 0:56:43.640 --> 0:56:47.239 places or where you live. Well, let's uh, let's hope 0:56:47.239 --> 0:56:50.160 for the best that not happening. Okay, good, Hey, Paul, 0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:52.799 I got a question for you, because I feel I'll 0:56:52.800 --> 0:56:56.040 get the most honest answer. How long is it going 0:56:56.080 --> 0:56:58.239 to take for mister Kraft to say this is enough? 0:56:58.920 --> 0:57:02.040 He picked the wrong guy to get understanding this. I 0:57:02.080 --> 0:57:04.239 don't know. In all seriousness, I do not think that 0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:08.080 we're anywhere close to that. I I think if there 0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:11.560 were signs that he's lost it, losing the locker room, 0:57:11.640 --> 0:57:14.239 the guys are not respecting him, whatnot, then maybe we 0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:16.480 could have a conversation that's might be a little different. 0:57:17.040 --> 0:57:19.640 I think there's a chance that that Robert Craft sits 0:57:19.640 --> 0:57:21.760 and talks to Bill and says, you know, what are 0:57:21.760 --> 0:57:24.960 we doing in terms of our structure of our coaching staff. 0:57:25.280 --> 0:57:27.040 I think there's a chance that they might do something 0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:29.600 like that. I do not think that we're looking at 0:57:29.720 --> 0:57:32.800 making any kind of a significant change in terms of 0:57:32.800 --> 0:57:36.640 the head coach. I'll explain why I pose the question, 0:57:36.880 --> 0:57:40.520 and and oh it's a it's a very fair question, right, 0:57:40.520 --> 0:57:43.400 Oh of course, And and but here's here's what motivated 0:57:43.480 --> 0:57:46.800 there sparked the question for me. If you, if you 0:57:46.840 --> 0:57:49.480 look at it, it's pretty systetic if you think about it, 0:57:49.520 --> 0:57:52.720 because if we're putting, you know, right down from the coaches, 0:57:52.880 --> 0:57:55.160 you know, like Patricia and Judge and what have you 0:57:55.160 --> 0:57:58.320 can obviously that's the train rank, and everybody predicted that 0:57:58.360 --> 0:58:00.880 and new that, which is incredible that if if you 0:58:00.960 --> 0:58:03.200 and I can do that, Paul and everybody else at 0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:05.680 the table, you know, obviously Bill should be able to 0:58:05.720 --> 0:58:07.560 do that, you know, right, And then if you if 0:58:07.600 --> 0:58:10.320 you think about just even the team that we've constructed, 0:58:11.240 --> 0:58:16.160 most teams in this situation aren't necessarily gonna tank per se. 0:58:16.200 --> 0:58:18.640 But we can't even I don't, I don't, I don't know. 0:58:18.680 --> 0:58:21.720 I'd rather see them not win, which which makes me 0:58:21.760 --> 0:58:23.200 it brings my heart to say it, because I'm a 0:58:23.440 --> 0:58:26.200 massive Patriots fan. But but when you know you're not 0:58:26.240 --> 0:58:27.720 a good team, you're not a good team. You need 0:58:27.760 --> 0:58:30.160 to position yourself in the draft. Right. But then I 0:58:30.160 --> 0:58:33.760 don't even have any faith at all, not even slightly 0:58:34.240 --> 0:58:36.640 in Bill Belichick doing the right thing in the draft. 0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:40.080 Well pick the guy would trade it down for you know, 0:58:40.160 --> 0:58:42.200 two picks in the in the in the first round, 0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:44.760 you know, number thirty two and thirty one, and then 0:58:44.880 --> 0:58:48.040 a lay fourth. I'm always, I'm always, I'm always amazed 0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:50.120 at that, And Chris, thank you for the call. I'm not. 0:58:50.160 --> 0:58:52.640 I'm not dogging on you because you're You're hardly alone 0:58:52.640 --> 0:58:56.560 in this. I'm amazed at people who think we'll fix 0:58:56.600 --> 0:58:58.320 it in the draft. How are you going to fix 0:58:58.360 --> 0:59:01.560 it in the draft? How many? How many impactful players 0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:03.360 do you think you're going to draft that are going 0:59:03.400 --> 0:59:06.120 to fix things for you? But what do you mean 0:59:06.160 --> 0:59:10.280 by like next year? No? No, if you'll notice that. 0:59:10.800 --> 0:59:12.840 But that's what you need to do, though, you need 0:59:12.880 --> 0:59:15.000 to start, like you know, they had some contributions from 0:59:15.080 --> 0:59:17.640 last year's draft, They've had some contributions from this year's draft. 0:59:17.800 --> 0:59:20.200 Get some contributions from next year's draft. That's how you 0:59:20.200 --> 0:59:22.120 get out of this. You got to find a way 0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:24.960 to get some playmakers. Now, it would help if Taekwon 0:59:25.000 --> 0:59:27.640 Thornton is one of those guys that works out right now. 0:59:28.000 --> 0:59:30.920 He's just kind of man. He's out there, but he 0:59:30.960 --> 0:59:33.320 hasn't made much of an impact. But that's what you need. 0:59:33.560 --> 0:59:35.560 You need to find a way to get more dangerous 0:59:36.000 --> 0:59:40.040 than what they've been so far, I guess. But I 0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:43.440 see other teams doing it by by virtue of figuring 0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:46.920 out the non existing salary cap and just signing already 0:59:46.960 --> 0:59:49.080 proven players that can come in. And I know we're 0:59:49.120 --> 0:59:50.720 going to make it him to That's a tough way 0:59:50.760 --> 0:59:52.439 to do it. No team has ever really been able 0:59:52.440 --> 0:59:56.280 to do it that way consistently. You get you get 0:59:56.280 --> 0:59:58.840 a bump from it, like they did two years ago, 0:59:58.920 --> 1:00:00.960 like they got a bump. Would you settle for a 1:00:01.000 --> 1:00:03.760 bump right now as you're looking at a team that 1:00:03.800 --> 1:00:07.600 doesn't look like it's really, you know, capable of a 1:00:07.600 --> 1:00:10.600 playoff win for a fourth year, fourth straight year. I mean, 1:00:10.840 --> 1:00:14.200 it's just I'd take a bump offensively. They have to 1:00:14.200 --> 1:00:15.959 figure something out. I don't know how these last seven 1:00:16.000 --> 1:00:18.160 games are gonna go, but they need they need to 1:00:18.200 --> 1:00:19.880 change some stuff up. I don't it's hard to see 1:00:19.920 --> 1:00:22.720 in these seven games enough happening to prove to you 1:00:22.760 --> 1:00:26.160 that things can say vaguely the same going into next year. 1:00:26.400 --> 1:00:28.680 It just it does feel like they're gonna need significant changes, 1:00:28.880 --> 1:00:31.600 a lot of free agents at wide receiver. Um, you know, 1:00:31.600 --> 1:00:33.680 we'll see, We'll see what happens when Mac down the stretch. 1:00:34.080 --> 1:00:36.640 All right. Josh mcdanzez is listening to the show and 1:00:36.640 --> 1:00:39.360 he's like, there's six and four. What's the score in nine? 1:00:40.040 --> 1:00:44.520 What I wouldn't give? Yeah, cousin, Patty, what's going on? 1:00:44.600 --> 1:00:48.960 Pat Hey, Polly, I'm on record this Tethersday and the 1:00:49.000 --> 1:00:54.360 Playbooks saying that I thought Marcus Jones was gonna break one. Now, granted, 1:00:54.520 --> 1:00:56.680 I did you know. I did think it was going 1:00:56.760 --> 1:00:58.760 to be a twenty eight to twenty three game, and 1:00:58.800 --> 1:01:01.080 I don't think it was gonna happen with five seconds 1:01:01.160 --> 1:01:04.360 left in the game. But hey man, I'll take it, sure, 1:01:05.480 --> 1:01:08.640 I gotta. I got a feeling though, just watching this team. 1:01:08.640 --> 1:01:11.120 I mean, our defense through the spread from they're gonna 1:01:11.200 --> 1:01:13.280 keep us in some games, but ultimately I think our 1:01:13.280 --> 1:01:16.280 offense is gonna end up losing the majority of them, 1:01:16.480 --> 1:01:18.840 because I mean, just look at look at what's on 1:01:18.920 --> 1:01:24.800 the docket. You know, two games in Buffalo Miami, it's 1:01:24.800 --> 1:01:27.720 gonna be a rough self, you know. And today was 1:01:27.760 --> 1:01:29.920 like eating blast watching in this game that was it 1:01:30.000 --> 1:01:32.480 was so tough to watch. But he wins to win 1:01:32.560 --> 1:01:34.880 and I'll take it and that's all I got. All right, thanks, Pat, 1:01:35.040 --> 1:01:37.800 I appreciate it. He's on a record. He called it. 1:01:37.840 --> 1:01:40.120 He did, he did. I remember his call? All right? 1:01:40.120 --> 1:01:43.880 Good called it. Did Spi and Fresne call anything like that? Speed? 1:01:43.880 --> 1:01:48.040 What's going on on? Behalf of the unwashed masses? Hardy 1:01:48.160 --> 1:01:52.000 and and with all due respect to Christmas Thanksgiving, Christian Arkan, 1:01:52.160 --> 1:01:57.600 it's great having you back. Absolutely. Um. By the way, 1:01:57.640 --> 1:02:01.120 I actually did call the the return for touchdown, and 1:02:01.360 --> 1:02:04.160 my wife as us as evidence of it somewhere, but 1:02:04.320 --> 1:02:06.560 I called it right before it happened. I take my 1:02:06.560 --> 1:02:11.080 own credit. Appreciate you. We got you confirmed. I UM, 1:02:11.200 --> 1:02:13.280 I wanted to ask you guys about the coaching. There's 1:02:13.320 --> 1:02:18.240 two specific sort of sequences or plays uh that that 1:02:18.240 --> 1:02:19.920 that were just I was kind of puzzling to me, 1:02:20.120 --> 1:02:24.000 and I'm like, there's there was redoing the punt after 1:02:24.040 --> 1:02:27.040 the offsetting penalties with Miles Bryant back there, like Myles 1:02:27.040 --> 1:02:30.760 Bryant had done a non Miles Bryant thing and actually 1:02:30.840 --> 1:02:34.240 had a decent return, and then Bill's like, no, let's 1:02:34.280 --> 1:02:36.360 let's run it back now that we for some reason 1:02:36.400 --> 1:02:38.640 to have him out there. I didn't like that. And 1:02:38.680 --> 1:02:42.440 the other one was the two consecutive run plays, first 1:02:42.440 --> 1:02:44.280 the third and seven and then fourth and third. I 1:02:44.280 --> 1:02:46.480 think where you're running the ball close to the middle 1:02:46.480 --> 1:02:49.120 of the field in a game where like field position 1:02:49.160 --> 1:02:51.040 and you know picked up they happened, that's going to 1:02:51.120 --> 1:02:54.200 determine the winner. And I'm just like that seems like, uh, 1:02:54.480 --> 1:02:56.440 I don't know, kind of a kind of a mysterious 1:02:56.560 --> 1:02:58.680 play call. I wanted do your thoughts on all those things. 1:02:59.320 --> 1:03:01.560 I'm just trying to remember them to Myles Bryan player 1:03:01.640 --> 1:03:06.320 don't know it was offsetting penalties though, and that's so 1:03:06.440 --> 1:03:09.640 that's not a decision, right, But I don't remember Miles 1:03:09.640 --> 1:03:12.320 Bryan having a good part return either. Well, it wasn't terrible. 1:03:12.320 --> 1:03:14.880 It was like ten yards. Oh, I think he returned 1:03:14.960 --> 1:03:16.800 from like I think he was close to midfield after 1:03:16.840 --> 1:03:19.040 that one. And then and I don't know, maybe the 1:03:19.040 --> 1:03:21.280 announcers misled me, but they said it was Bill's choice, 1:03:21.280 --> 1:03:23.440 and Bill elected to redo it. Maybe, Yeah, I don't know. 1:03:23.560 --> 1:03:26.760 It was the one I'm thinking of was offsetting penalties. 1:03:26.800 --> 1:03:29.920 But yeah, so that's not You don't have a choice 1:03:30.120 --> 1:03:33.880 of offsetting penalties. Do you replay the down? That's what 1:03:33.960 --> 1:03:35.880 I mean. But I guess I was misled by these 1:03:36.000 --> 1:03:39.080 by the Yeah, yeah I found it. I heard that speed. 1:03:39.120 --> 1:03:41.520 They were wrong if that's what they said, they were wrong. 1:03:41.560 --> 1:03:45.320 I agree with fred Um penalty on Hardy player out 1:03:45.320 --> 1:03:49.360 of bounds on kick off setting um in four out 1:03:49.360 --> 1:03:51.600 of the twenty five no play penalty on New England 1:03:51.680 --> 1:03:56.120 Jonathan Jones offensive holding offsetting. There's no decision to be 1:03:56.160 --> 1:03:57.920 made there. What about the what about the running on 1:03:58.000 --> 1:04:00.480 fourth and three like close to mid field? Oh I 1:04:00.480 --> 1:04:02.400 would have punted. I yeah, that was that was a 1:04:02.440 --> 1:04:05.320 major down on my down on my bad list. We 1:04:05.360 --> 1:04:07.880 all thought the ball pin them down inside the fifteen 1:04:08.000 --> 1:04:11.080 and and just keep playing field decision until you get 1:04:11.120 --> 1:04:13.040 the ball in field goal range and win. A lot 1:04:13.040 --> 1:04:14.560 of people on the blog would say, you got to 1:04:14.560 --> 1:04:17.200 play the game to win the game. That's way the 1:04:17.240 --> 1:04:19.479 game to win, right. The way you play that game 1:04:19.520 --> 1:04:22.880 to win was to punt exactly, And so I was 1:04:22.880 --> 1:04:25.360 just kind of curious, don't take it off like overall 1:04:25.400 --> 1:04:27.920 in light of those and maybe some other you know, 1:04:27.960 --> 1:04:31.240 the penalties, the special teams looking spotted over the beginning 1:04:31.240 --> 1:04:33.600 of the game. I don't know what you guys overall 1:04:33.640 --> 1:04:35.760 thought about the coaching. Is it moving in the right direction? 1:04:35.880 --> 1:04:38.680 Is installed in the same place or going back? Verick 1:04:38.680 --> 1:04:41.160 it off? Yeah, offensively feels like whack them all. I 1:04:41.200 --> 1:04:43.640 think I think the penalties are worth highlighting two. I 1:04:43.680 --> 1:04:45.800 mean eight fifty five just only had three. I mean, 1:04:45.840 --> 1:04:49.880 you know, it's just sloppy play overall. And one more 1:04:49.920 --> 1:04:52.160 thing I wanted to just say real quick, Jeff House says. 1:04:52.920 --> 1:04:55.520 Patriots oil Isaiah Wynn, who was ruled out today with 1:04:55.520 --> 1:04:57.760 a foot injury, will also likely miss time. According to 1:04:57.800 --> 1:05:00.760 a source, more testing to determine the sent to the injury. 1:05:00.880 --> 1:05:02.720 But he also might be back and be fine by tomorrow. 1:05:02.960 --> 1:05:05.720 I'm just kidding at it. That last part you got me, 1:05:06.800 --> 1:05:10.200 I'd be right in line with that individual's text. You 1:05:10.320 --> 1:05:15.200 got me though, good job. And also that's a huge 1:05:15.240 --> 1:05:17.880 problems too. I mean, say what you will about win. 1:05:17.920 --> 1:05:19.520 I mean, it's just a depth issue. At least at 1:05:19.520 --> 1:05:22.920 this point, he lost. He lost his job evidently, so 1:05:24.240 --> 1:05:27.400 and U to Speek's questioned about what the announcer said. 1:05:27.440 --> 1:05:29.760 You can't always trust the announcers, either on TV or 1:05:29.800 --> 1:05:33.439 in stadium. I mean, for us. The PA announcer kept 1:05:33.480 --> 1:05:36.680 referring to a tackle by C. J. Mossley today. I 1:05:36.720 --> 1:05:39.000 don't know if you heard that, Like, Sarge, what was that? 1:05:39.040 --> 1:05:45.120 Our guyside the buildings, I'm mostly I most would know that. Hey, 1:05:45.400 --> 1:05:49.640 Chen Foster Grant, Thanks, I've been looking all over for 1:05:49.680 --> 1:05:53.440 these Alonzo. What the hell are you guys? Sam? All 1:05:53.480 --> 1:05:55.760 the way from New Zealand? Sam? What's going on? Thanks 1:05:55.760 --> 1:05:58.840 for joining us on the Patriots postgame? What do you got? Sam? 1:05:59.080 --> 1:06:03.600 How you guys? Are you going good? Um? Okay? So 1:06:03.600 --> 1:06:08.560 I've got two queries slash questions. The first is I 1:06:08.640 --> 1:06:11.680 thought I saw Zeppy, which kind of scared me. Walling 1:06:11.760 --> 1:06:16.000 up before the pun rappin toushdown. He was talking to 1:06:16.000 --> 1:06:18.480 the coaches, he was all get up, he was going 1:06:18.480 --> 1:06:20.560 through plays and stuff like that, and I kind of 1:06:20.640 --> 1:06:22.479 got the steeling that they may have been thinking about 1:06:22.520 --> 1:06:25.520 bringing them on. That's interesting. I'd have to try to 1:06:25.520 --> 1:06:29.400 look at that. Sam. I won't twenty five seconds left. 1:06:29.840 --> 1:06:32.880 I won't derail you here, Sam. There was some talk 1:06:33.160 --> 1:06:36.200 in in the booth about the way Mac looked, and 1:06:36.680 --> 1:06:39.200 you know, he's taken these sacks and he's in the pocket, 1:06:39.600 --> 1:06:41.800 and there was some discussion as to whether or not 1:06:42.320 --> 1:06:45.880 he had gotten you know, I know, you can't say, God, 1:06:46.240 --> 1:06:49.720 get your bell rung anymore, get dinged up. But there 1:06:49.840 --> 1:06:53.480 was some discussion as to whether or not he was operating, 1:06:53.640 --> 1:06:57.120 you know, on all levels perfectly. So I have no 1:06:57.200 --> 1:07:00.400 idea if if Zappy was warming up doing anything other 1:07:00.400 --> 1:07:02.640 than just staying loose with Mac, which interest you know, 1:07:02.720 --> 1:07:06.960 the other quarterback will will oftentimes do. But that's just 1:07:07.120 --> 1:07:10.880 something maybe to pay attention to here going forward. So 1:07:11.120 --> 1:07:14.280 but what what was your other query, Sam? That's very interesting. 1:07:15.400 --> 1:07:19.120 I was wondering, as McDaniels ends up getting the boot, 1:07:19.920 --> 1:07:22.760 does he come back. I don't think he's gonna get 1:07:22.760 --> 1:07:24.280 the boot, and I don't think it's gonna get it's 1:07:24.320 --> 1:07:25.960 gonna get the boot, and I'm not sure he's interested 1:07:26.000 --> 1:07:29.080 in coming back. But you know, stranger things have happened, 1:07:29.800 --> 1:07:34.919 true enough, Sam, thanks for they call. Um Breer said 1:07:34.920 --> 1:07:38.040 it again this week that not only is McDaniels not 1:07:38.120 --> 1:07:40.800 getting the boot, but he's good for next year or two. Yeah. 1:07:40.960 --> 1:07:42.840 The money. I mean, the money issue. It always comes 1:07:42.840 --> 1:07:44.840 back to money, right, And that's right. They're gonna give him. 1:07:44.840 --> 1:07:47.240 They're gonna give him two years, right, which I think 1:07:47.520 --> 1:07:51.000 unless there is some significant problems in terms of the 1:07:51.040 --> 1:07:54.040 locker room. I think you can't fire a guy in 1:07:54.120 --> 1:07:58.480 one year unless there's just in like utter ineptitude. Like 1:07:58.960 --> 1:08:00.680 and I'm watching the broncho is right now on red 1:08:00.760 --> 1:08:04.040 zone against the Raiders. Nathaniel Hackett looks to me like 1:08:04.080 --> 1:08:06.920 a guy who's never coached football in his life. Like, 1:08:07.480 --> 1:08:09.760 if they decide to pull the plug after one year, 1:08:10.120 --> 1:08:12.160 I would understand it. Like what do they do? And 1:08:12.160 --> 1:08:14.800 they're all like it's clearly short, and Russell Wilson's like, 1:08:14.800 --> 1:08:18.000 first down, no problem, Like you are a short Russell. 1:08:18.840 --> 1:08:20.400 I mean, I think he gave up the play calling 1:08:20.479 --> 1:08:24.240 duties this week too, he did, he did, Um, so 1:08:24.760 --> 1:08:28.479 it happens. I do think there's a chance. Um oh wow, 1:08:28.600 --> 1:08:32.519 touchdown Bengals. I hate the uniforms. I do too. Um. 1:08:32.560 --> 1:08:36.120 I know everybody goes goes gaga on Twitter about just nothing. 1:08:36.640 --> 1:08:40.240 What do you think, Freddie? They're okay, just okay, Yeah, 1:08:40.280 --> 1:08:43.000 for white on white they're okay. But but you don't 1:08:43.040 --> 1:08:44.719 have to wait a white on on and you're ill, 1:08:45.000 --> 1:08:48.439 you're not of your right, he'd be ill and Michelle 1:08:48.479 --> 1:08:51.400 and South Carolina. Let's let's do this, Michelle, what do 1:08:51.439 --> 1:08:55.479 you Got's the hi? Guys? Hi? Do you wish you 1:08:55.520 --> 1:08:58.599 were lost in the wits for that game? What do 1:08:58.640 --> 1:09:01.200 you wish you were lost in the woods during that game? 1:09:02.600 --> 1:09:07.880 I wish I was lost in another country. That was horrible. 1:09:08.680 --> 1:09:16.360 So look, Mac is not making me feel any better 1:09:16.520 --> 1:09:20.400 about him. Um, I understand everybody's coming, who all trying 1:09:20.439 --> 1:09:24.160 to figure out what this offense is becoming, who's the 1:09:24.200 --> 1:09:26.200 cause of it, who's not the cause of it? And 1:09:26.880 --> 1:09:30.639 we all know it's a factor of everything, right. I mean, 1:09:30.720 --> 1:09:34.759 I think, and I called earlier, I asked the question 1:09:34.800 --> 1:09:38.679 about math, and so this is what I'm taking away. 1:09:39.160 --> 1:09:43.920 There's two days to practice. I have not seen anything today. 1:09:44.040 --> 1:09:47.479 He was in the pocket today where he actually had 1:09:48.080 --> 1:09:51.200 plenty of time to actually make a decision and not 1:09:51.400 --> 1:09:55.000 get sacked. That he could have ran out of it, 1:09:55.760 --> 1:09:59.120 or he could have thrown the ball away, and he 1:09:59.240 --> 1:10:03.439 didn't do. Our defense is winning as the games, and 1:10:03.560 --> 1:10:08.720 that shows you today right now is my belief. The 1:10:08.880 --> 1:10:13.640 second another thing is when um, who was who was 1:10:13.720 --> 1:10:16.599 a tight end? Who caught the ball today? One hunter 1:10:16.760 --> 1:10:21.200 enery John Smith, Henry when he makes a good play 1:10:21.439 --> 1:10:26.599 and it's actually a great Yeah, after a catch, Night's play, 1:10:26.800 --> 1:10:29.679 it's spread out. You can't tell what they're gonna do, 1:10:30.600 --> 1:10:34.439 and then they go away from it. But like the 1:10:34.479 --> 1:10:36.800 rest of the game, I don't get it well. And 1:10:36.800 --> 1:10:40.120 then when they get into the red zone, why can't 1:10:40.200 --> 1:10:45.599 I know? It's a store of field, but I don't 1:10:45.640 --> 1:10:51.160 get it. Okay, I can't understand why their creativity is stunted, 1:10:51.640 --> 1:10:55.240 all right, Michelle, Okay, coach who was trying to create? 1:10:55.439 --> 1:10:57.000 Right right right? Well, thanks for the calling. That's what 1:10:57.080 --> 1:10:59.080 I think it gets back to, is the coaching aspect 1:10:59.120 --> 1:11:01.960 of it. But to Paul point earlier, Yeah, it's when 1:11:02.000 --> 1:11:04.160 you get into the red zone. It's it's not that 1:11:04.240 --> 1:11:06.439 you know, the defense has a chance to pack things in. 1:11:06.560 --> 1:11:10.360 Your offensive line can't handle the additional pressure of having 1:11:10.680 --> 1:11:14.360 a condensed defense in there. This offensive line. So I 1:11:14.400 --> 1:11:16.160 think that's your easy answer in the red zone in 1:11:16.240 --> 1:11:18.360 terms of the creativity or the play calling or why 1:11:18.400 --> 1:11:22.040 they get away from stuff. One quick thing to add 1:11:22.520 --> 1:11:25.479 Bill Belichick press conference said, Trent Brown not starting the 1:11:25.520 --> 1:11:28.920 game was a coaching decision. Yeah, so, I guess Zoe 1:11:28.960 --> 1:11:33.960 alluded to some sort of discipline on the pregame show, 1:11:34.120 --> 1:11:37.360 I mean on the broadcast, but he did not mention 1:11:37.439 --> 1:11:39.320 on the pregame show when we were talking about the 1:11:39.520 --> 1:11:42.760 various machinations on the offense the second time we've had 1:11:42.800 --> 1:11:48.240 a mysterious by the way, Minnesota's um you know how 1:11:48.400 --> 1:11:51.680 high powered offense is completely doing nothing. Again, by the way, 1:11:51.680 --> 1:11:54.160 I know you guys all think that the Vikings or 1:11:54.160 --> 1:11:57.960 the be all end all anyway, Yeah, hardy, Oh yeah, 1:11:58.000 --> 1:12:00.720 what prompted us Zoe on the pregame show. I think 1:12:00.720 --> 1:12:03.519 he was cold. Oh yeah, he came in. He came 1:12:03.560 --> 1:12:06.800 in to chat as hard he would say, quarterback chin 1:12:06.880 --> 1:12:10.400 wag for Zoe? What what was the last game the 1:12:10.400 --> 1:12:13.680 Minnesota play that I mean, did the quarterback look good 1:12:13.680 --> 1:12:15.880 at all? They have any receivers that did anything? The 1:12:15.960 --> 1:12:18.800 quarterback look good at all? No, Justin Jefferson, that would 1:12:18.800 --> 1:12:21.000 be a hard No. You don't think Kurk Cousins look 1:12:21.000 --> 1:12:24.240 good in the last Vikings game? No, he too. Two 1:12:24.280 --> 1:12:26.880 of the most hilacious picks you'll ever see one right 1:12:26.960 --> 1:12:30.760 to a guy in stride um. Justin Jefferson. I didn't 1:12:30.800 --> 1:12:34.439 say he played mistake free. He good? Justin Jefferson, justin Jefferson, 1:12:34.520 --> 1:12:36.880 he very good. What was the other time this year? 1:12:36.960 --> 1:12:39.200 I'm blanking? Was it a preseason game? Trump? Brown was 1:12:39.240 --> 1:12:44.400 mysteriously just like not in uniform Carolina correct. Yeah. But 1:12:44.760 --> 1:12:47.240 the weird part about this is that whole thing that 1:12:47.320 --> 1:12:52.000 happened during the week with him maybe not getting the 1:12:52.439 --> 1:12:55.200 amount of snaps or maybe he was getting that to 1:12:55.280 --> 1:12:57.760 me is part of this equation here. It's just how 1:12:57.760 --> 1:12:59.280 bad is it that now you have to like lead 1:12:59.320 --> 1:13:01.720 on Isaiah Win who has been I'm telling you he's 1:13:01.760 --> 1:13:05.599 a big problem. How much how much has he run 1:13:05.600 --> 1:13:08.599 afoul of the team rules or the coaches good will? 1:13:08.640 --> 1:13:11.360 I mean, what do I think? You know? I know 1:13:11.439 --> 1:13:13.400 and degree And it's such a funny position, like I 1:13:13.439 --> 1:13:14.920 think back in like you know when a college like 1:13:14.960 --> 1:13:16.600 you know, like the coach is like sitting you, but 1:13:16.640 --> 1:13:18.479 then he has to put you in, so you kind 1:13:18.479 --> 1:13:21.360 of feel like, look, who's playing you know, I don't know, 1:13:21.360 --> 1:13:23.360 it's just a it's just a strange position. You're trying 1:13:23.360 --> 1:13:24.880 to make a point and you're like, crap, we gotta 1:13:24.920 --> 1:13:26.559 put him in now. And he has to play, and 1:13:26.840 --> 1:13:28.760 you know, how invested is he in playing? And is 1:13:28.760 --> 1:13:31.120 he kind of frustrated that, you know, he plays well 1:13:31.160 --> 1:13:34.639 again the game. Proud of you. I'm glad we got 1:13:34.640 --> 1:13:37.240 through that together. Yeah, I'm glad we worked that out. 1:13:37.760 --> 1:13:46.040 You guys are funny with the whole scenarios. Call entire conversation. Yeah, yeah, 1:13:47.040 --> 1:13:50.400 Chip and DC, what's going on? Chip? Hey, Hey, guys, 1:13:50.560 --> 1:13:54.240 what's up? So? I understand that the offense is kind 1:13:54.240 --> 1:13:56.559 of a focal point of the discussion after this game, 1:13:56.600 --> 1:13:59.519 but uh, I had a quick question about the d line. 1:13:59.520 --> 1:14:02.240 It seems like we get through kind of the opposing 1:14:02.280 --> 1:14:05.800 offensive line pretty easily, but after that, it seems like 1:14:05.840 --> 1:14:08.519 we're kind of just letting the quarterback run the muck 1:14:08.640 --> 1:14:11.840 in that either results in um, you know, them throwing 1:14:11.840 --> 1:14:14.160 the ball away or you know, a completion, and I 1:14:14.160 --> 1:14:17.600 feel like a lot of those should be sacked and dead. Um. 1:14:17.800 --> 1:14:20.280 So interested to hear what your guy's thoughts are on 1:14:20.320 --> 1:14:22.720 that and if, like other teams kind of deal with 1:14:22.760 --> 1:14:25.200 that or do we just have a particularly slow but 1:14:25.320 --> 1:14:28.960 powerful defensive line that's it. I mean, that's a good question. 1:14:28.960 --> 1:14:30.879 I mean, if they've had some problems with mobile quarterbacks, 1:14:30.880 --> 1:14:36.040 I think, But you know, overall, I mean there's four 1:14:36.120 --> 1:14:39.679 more sacks today. Um, yeah, he scrambled a couple of times, 1:14:39.720 --> 1:14:43.719 but I don't know. Yeah, they're they're among the league 1:14:43.800 --> 1:14:47.000 leaders in sacks. I think they've got some different stuff 1:14:47.000 --> 1:14:49.120 this year. I mean Mac Wilson is you know, I 1:14:49.120 --> 1:14:51.320 think he was struggling a little bit to the beginning 1:14:51.320 --> 1:14:52.840 of the year. But I mean they just have some 1:14:52.880 --> 1:14:54.599 new pieces to play with, and I guess that's why 1:14:54.680 --> 1:14:57.000 I expect a bunch of sacks next week too against 1:14:57.160 --> 1:15:00.920 Kirk Cousins doesn't have a lot of mobile Oh that's right, 1:15:00.960 --> 1:15:03.200 he stinks. It's just I didn't say stinks. I said 1:15:03.200 --> 1:15:06.200 he doesn't have a lot of mobility. Did you You 1:15:06.240 --> 1:15:08.640 said he wasn't good last week? I don't think he 1:15:08.680 --> 1:15:12.240 played very well when that minute started. Sean, I'm sorry. 1:15:12.240 --> 1:15:14.879 In the Buffalo games a tough critic, Sean and Austin. 1:15:14.960 --> 1:15:22.559 What's going on? Sean? Hey, you know what it's just 1:15:22.800 --> 1:15:26.960 is killing me offense? Dude. I'm old. I'm almost fifty 1:15:27.040 --> 1:15:31.600 and I remember Bless before Brady. You know, I have 1:15:31.720 --> 1:15:35.760 to say to some correlation with Brady, not Brady. What's 1:15:35.760 --> 1:15:38.960 it called them? See point eight rating in that game 1:15:39.040 --> 1:15:42.479 last week, seventy one point? Is that good? It's not good? Well, 1:15:42.880 --> 1:15:45.760 are we're using the ESPN rating? No, I'm listening to 1:15:46.040 --> 1:15:48.080 I'm using the passer rating. I'm trying not to be, 1:15:48.520 --> 1:15:53.519 trying not to be, uh nervous. Four sacks, two interceptions. 1:15:53.800 --> 1:15:56.840 We never won anything with bless Yeah, why would you 1:15:56.840 --> 1:15:58.800 want to go to a super Bowl? I get it, 1:16:00.120 --> 1:16:03.320 I'm saying, right, Yeah, Bletso went to went to the 1:16:03.360 --> 1:16:06.519 super Bowl. Yes, and he won another AFC championship. That 1:16:06.560 --> 1:16:09.760 got you to another super Bowl? Right, Well, I don't 1:16:10.800 --> 1:16:12.479 And how did it work out for it? They won? 1:16:13.240 --> 1:16:15.200 Worked out very well. We get trade of Buffalo and 1:16:15.240 --> 1:16:17.240 beat the crap out of it all the time, all 1:16:17.320 --> 1:16:19.280 them things. I don't know what we need to do. Yes, 1:16:19.400 --> 1:16:21.639 the Patriots are better than Buffalo. Yes, you are correct, 1:16:21.720 --> 1:16:25.439 good call. Yeah, I mean, you know, make fun of 1:16:25.520 --> 1:16:28.240 Drew Bledso I mean, like we're comparing this to Drew 1:16:28.280 --> 1:16:31.240 Bledso poked the bear. I mean, this is what the 1:16:31.280 --> 1:16:33.080 offense you had when Drew Bledsoe was here on a 1:16:33.120 --> 1:16:36.120 consistent basis every week you couldn't move the ball and score. 1:16:36.560 --> 1:16:40.440 Is that what they had? When we're here five touchdowns. 1:16:40.479 --> 1:16:42.400 I'm trying. I'm trying to record it a little bit. 1:16:42.800 --> 1:16:51.120 Him called Patricia. Patricia. Yeah, it's everything I love to 1:16:51.160 --> 1:16:54.400 read to say, Patricia, good, I love I love you guys. 1:16:55.400 --> 1:17:00.920 We love you too, Sean. I'm proud of you, part 1:17:00.960 --> 1:17:05.439 of your Sean, Sean. Listen to me, Sean, Listen to me, Sean. 1:17:05.520 --> 1:17:07.519 It's not your fault. It's not your fault. It's not 1:17:07.600 --> 1:17:13.800 your fault. Not you too, Sean. Oh Man, can we 1:17:13.840 --> 1:17:16.880 break please? Oh no, there'll be no breaks for you. 1:17:16.880 --> 1:17:21.519 What do you mean? Oh? Good? Greet all right, Zack. See, 1:17:21.560 --> 1:17:23.840 we got some emails here there, so I'm not that 1:17:23.880 --> 1:17:25.719 we had to turn this into any like you know, Fred, 1:17:25.720 --> 1:17:27.280 you were talking about how like the Jets have to 1:17:27.320 --> 1:17:30.280 be so frustrated, and I totally agree some of the 1:17:30.280 --> 1:17:32.280 stuff coming out of their locker room. I mean, first, 1:17:32.439 --> 1:17:34.479 like Zach Wilson was asked if he felt like he 1:17:34.560 --> 1:17:39.360 left the defense down. No, no, okay, idiot um. And 1:17:39.400 --> 1:17:43.519 then Quincy Wilson not Quincy Wilson, what's his name, Derett Wilson. 1:17:43.920 --> 1:17:46.519 I got the quote right here. Yeah, it's like this 1:17:47.280 --> 1:17:49.840 bleep is not okay, straight up, it's not Okay, how 1:17:49.840 --> 1:17:51.559 many totally yards do we have? One hundred and three? 1:17:51.960 --> 1:17:55.040 That sh is not gonna fly. We got, we got 1:17:55.080 --> 1:17:57.040 the dudes. It's time to be consistent. It's time to 1:17:57.040 --> 1:18:00.080 win the games in there, yes, search of Francis. Yeah, 1:18:00.120 --> 1:18:05.559 and they they they have to be sitting there kicking themselves. Um, 1:18:05.840 --> 1:18:08.240 they probably played better than the Patriots in the first 1:18:08.280 --> 1:18:11.720 game and lost this game that Patriots played better than them, 1:18:12.400 --> 1:18:15.320 and they still lost. Like, yeah, and you lost in 1:18:15.400 --> 1:18:17.920 the last second on ten and and listened. The Jets 1:18:17.920 --> 1:18:20.200 are playing a little bit with house money. They're not 1:18:20.360 --> 1:18:24.000 ready yet to be, but they were one play away 1:18:24.280 --> 1:18:26.679 from being seven and three and tied with everybody else 1:18:26.680 --> 1:18:29.880 atop the division. And they just couldn't make that play. 1:18:29.920 --> 1:18:33.120 They couldn't make a play. They they had a terrible 1:18:33.160 --> 1:18:36.360 loss with Hall going out. Oh yeah, I agree, I agree, Freddy. 1:18:36.439 --> 1:18:38.719 But still you I mean, I mean, you really should 1:18:38.760 --> 1:18:40.160 be able to get more than hundred. And it's the 1:18:40.200 --> 1:18:43.720 same thing, exactly, you know, you really should be able 1:18:43.760 --> 1:18:46.360 to do a little bit more than that. It's the 1:18:46.400 --> 1:18:48.320 same I said. It's the same thing we say about Maxactly. 1:18:48.439 --> 1:18:50.400 They had more punks than first. I mean, some of 1:18:50.400 --> 1:18:53.160 those throws two, were you short hopping him? Firing him 1:18:53.160 --> 1:18:55.320 over guy's heads? How about the one the mims like 1:18:55.320 --> 1:18:56.840 there was like a third, It was like a third 1:18:56.880 --> 1:18:58.559 and seven. It was like kind of a slant and 1:18:58.600 --> 1:19:01.200 he just threw it, threw it at his feet, like 1:19:01.240 --> 1:19:04.400 what do you do? What are we doing? Bob, Bob 1:19:04.400 --> 1:19:06.760 in New Mexico says, check if you don't believe me, 1:19:06.880 --> 1:19:10.240 Matt Jones has only two tenths of a second less 1:19:10.680 --> 1:19:14.760 in a safe pocket than the average NFL quarterback. Yeah, 1:19:14.760 --> 1:19:16.519 I don't think that the pressure. I mean, I know 1:19:16.560 --> 1:19:18.680 he got sack six more times today. I agree. I 1:19:18.680 --> 1:19:21.559 don't think I agree with what what Mike was talking about. 1:19:21.560 --> 1:19:24.080 There were times where he looked comfortable in the pocket. 1:19:24.080 --> 1:19:26.479 He just wasn't throwing the ball. That's the first play 1:19:26.520 --> 1:19:28.240 of the game, that one. He didn't have a lot 1:19:28.240 --> 1:19:30.400 of time on. No, but I was defend him on 1:19:30.439 --> 1:19:35.120 that one. No, that's why I'm taking the ball. But 1:19:35.160 --> 1:19:37.840 the play was designed to get right out of his heads. 1:19:37.840 --> 1:19:39.479 It was like a three step. You could see him 1:19:39.520 --> 1:19:42.360 go like that quick like it was it's not there. 1:19:42.400 --> 1:19:44.879 It was like a thirst step drop. Like Bob says 1:19:44.720 --> 1:19:46.640 that something was wrong. But I think it's easy to 1:19:46.680 --> 1:19:48.439 just say, well, they got sex six times, they couldn't 1:19:48.520 --> 1:19:50.800 run the ball. The official line sucks. I don't think 1:19:50.800 --> 1:19:53.840 it was that bad today. He had six opportunities today 1:19:53.920 --> 1:19:58.360 of more than four seconds. One of them he had 1:19:58.400 --> 1:20:02.040 a lot of time to throw and just sailed one 1:20:02.320 --> 1:20:06.200 way high near the sideline to Agalore. Yeah, the player 1:20:06.320 --> 1:20:09.439 had no chance. Mike Greenbriog said, had Zach Wilson played 1:20:09.439 --> 1:20:11.599 like an NFL quarterback in either game, the Jets would 1:20:11.640 --> 1:20:14.040 have swept the season. Serious with all Patriots, I mean, 1:20:14.120 --> 1:20:16.760 that's that's accurate. We're gonna hear from it. But if 1:20:16.840 --> 1:20:20.120 Mac Jones did, they might have blown them out twice. Yeah, 1:20:20.160 --> 1:20:22.439 we're gonna hear from Mac. We're gonna hear from Coach 1:20:22.520 --> 1:20:26.240 Belichick coming up here on the Patriots postgame show. 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Here, we'll go to Adam, 1:22:30.720 --> 1:22:33.360 who is in Dublin. Adam, thanks for joining us on 1:22:33.400 --> 1:22:35.800 the Patriots postgame Show. Oh by the way, Adam, before 1:22:35.800 --> 1:22:37.760 we get to you, just want to thank cyber Reason, 1:22:37.800 --> 1:22:40.400 presenters of the Patriots Postgame Show. Great defenders don't just 1:22:40.439 --> 1:22:43.320 play in the field. Also protecting your company and data. 1:22:43.400 --> 1:22:45.880 Cyber Reason a mission to end ransomware, keep your business 1:22:46.240 --> 1:22:49.000 undefeated against cyber attacks. Learn more at cyber reason dot 1:22:49.040 --> 1:22:53.479 com slash ransom. Adam, what's going on? Gotta thank cyber Reason, 1:22:53.560 --> 1:22:59.120 Gotta do it exactly prefaces it's written reporters of our 1:22:59.160 --> 1:23:01.799 head coach Police. He can win with a top fifteen quarterback, 1:23:02.240 --> 1:23:04.479 and last year we had give or take a top 1:23:04.520 --> 1:23:07.000 fifteen quarterback. And I know you guys talked during the 1:23:07.000 --> 1:23:09.719 week about the conditions of an experiment to sample sizes. 1:23:09.720 --> 1:23:12.799 All these things, right, Well, last year, what are the changes? 1:23:12.840 --> 1:23:15.479 The quarterback is his same But this year we've got 1:23:15.520 --> 1:23:18.920 a different offensive system, we've got a different offensive coaching team, 1:23:19.760 --> 1:23:22.599 one of our productive receivers, and Kendrick Bourne is being 1:23:22.640 --> 1:23:27.320 pulled out of the offense, and our online is absolutely useless. 1:23:27.960 --> 1:23:30.400 I'm not saying mac Jones has the potential to be 1:23:30.600 --> 1:23:33.800 a top ten, top five NFL quarterback, but it is 1:23:33.840 --> 1:23:39.000 becoming increasingly impossible to judge him in these conditions as 1:23:39.040 --> 1:23:41.639 to where his ceiling really is. And I think he's 1:23:41.680 --> 1:23:44.960 completely been rattled by what's happened this season with an 1:23:45.000 --> 1:23:48.960 injury the offense of the Chicago game. So I really 1:23:48.960 --> 1:23:51.639 feel like we're going to be stuck in limbo because 1:23:51.760 --> 1:23:53.920 you've got to give him at least one full season 1:23:54.720 --> 1:23:58.200 with some continuity. And I don't disagree with anything that's 1:23:58.200 --> 1:24:00.720 been said. I'm not a mac apologist, but we have 1:24:00.760 --> 1:24:04.559 no idea really where his ceiling is. And I'm not 1:24:04.600 --> 1:24:07.680 saying his ceiling is extraordinarily high, but he has been 1:24:07.680 --> 1:24:10.960 given a raw deal this year so far, and he's 1:24:11.000 --> 1:24:14.519 not coping with us. And if that's the case, how 1:24:14.560 --> 1:24:18.280 do we trust Bill and this coaching staff. If he 1:24:18.320 --> 1:24:20.800 year's time to decide he's not the guy to find 1:24:20.840 --> 1:24:24.920 another guy and not make the same mistakes. Well, I 1:24:25.360 --> 1:24:27.240 guess I would agree with you, Adam and in that 1:24:27.280 --> 1:24:30.240 it's one is much more complicated. Yeah, yeah, but it's 1:24:30.320 --> 1:24:32.439 it's been a rough year for Mac. When you factor 1:24:32.479 --> 1:24:34.920 in the injury, you factor in the new offensive coordinary, 1:24:35.000 --> 1:24:38.080 your factor in the the you know, the change in 1:24:38.160 --> 1:24:41.120 the offense. And also I don't think he's handled it 1:24:41.200 --> 1:24:43.000 all that well. We'll see. That to me is where 1:24:43.000 --> 1:24:46.280 it falls, because like, what do you think of Brandon Staley? 1:24:47.640 --> 1:24:50.160 Probably not much? Right, do you think it's Zach Taylor? 1:24:50.600 --> 1:24:53.320 I don't thinking about it. Yeah, But I mean these 1:24:53.320 --> 1:24:57.840 are like coaches that are just like they're out there, 1:24:58.280 --> 1:25:00.519 you know, in charge of these young quarterb Actually we're 1:25:00.520 --> 1:25:03.040 finding ways to you know, Like I'm not putting Andy 1:25:03.040 --> 1:25:04.760 Reid in that because I think Andy reads a good coach. 1:25:04.800 --> 1:25:07.799 I think he has proven with him without Patrick Mahomes, 1:25:07.800 --> 1:25:10.040 that he's going to be productive. I mean he brought 1:25:10.080 --> 1:25:13.200 the Donovan Nabo I think was kind of average at 1:25:13.240 --> 1:25:17.719 best to four straight conference title games. But I mean, 1:25:18.360 --> 1:25:21.680 how is Joe Burrow having success with the support that 1:25:21.720 --> 1:25:25.600 he has around him? Like, yeah, at some point, you 1:25:25.720 --> 1:25:28.160 gotta you gotta figure out a little bit more. Now, 1:25:28.360 --> 1:25:31.439 I'm not giving up this is the injury was huge. 1:25:31.479 --> 1:25:34.840 I think the injury in Week three against Baltimore like 1:25:35.120 --> 1:25:37.280 that kind of derailed his season a little bit. I'm 1:25:37.280 --> 1:25:39.760 going to give him some time to to sort of 1:25:39.960 --> 1:25:43.400 see if he can figure this out. But yeah, I 1:25:43.439 --> 1:25:45.240 don't like the way that the offense is structured. I 1:25:45.280 --> 1:25:47.960 don't I think that the caller just he mentioned a 1:25:48.040 --> 1:25:50.320 raw deal. I agree. I think he got a raw 1:25:50.400 --> 1:25:53.599 deal in the offseason. Get over it, Yeah, get over 1:25:53.640 --> 1:25:57.960 it and produce. By the way, Keith send an email, 1:25:58.080 --> 1:26:02.400 said Paul Parillo, I'm done with Mac the Hack. Wow, 1:26:02.960 --> 1:26:05.080 he says, I don't carell crazy. This sounds. I'd rather 1:26:05.160 --> 1:26:08.360 lose with Bailey Zappy than win with Mac Jones. It's 1:26:08.400 --> 1:26:10.560 time to go back the draft, find another quarterback or 1:26:10.680 --> 1:26:13.240 sell out for Aaron Rodgers while we developed someone other 1:26:14.080 --> 1:26:22.960 than Mac the can hack at Jones's mean mean on that. 1:26:24.280 --> 1:26:26.439 So we got to tweet about the offsetting penalties on 1:26:26.479 --> 1:26:30.200 the on the on the change of possession play, and 1:26:30.240 --> 1:26:34.240 they said the receiving team can opt to decline the penalty. Um, 1:26:34.280 --> 1:26:36.719 and then they would have to have the penalty incurred 1:26:36.760 --> 1:26:38.599 against them if they did that. I don't know why 1:26:38.600 --> 1:26:41.840 you would do that, right Like, so, so I can 1:26:41.840 --> 1:26:44.280 decline the penalty and then just move back ten yards, 1:26:44.840 --> 1:26:46.200 Why would you want to do that? I don't know. 1:26:46.360 --> 1:26:49.240 I have no idea. All right, let's let's hear from 1:26:49.280 --> 1:26:52.960 the head coach here after the ten three Patriots win 1:26:53.280 --> 1:26:59.160 over the Jets at Gillette Stadium today, here is Bill Belichick. Well, great, um, 1:27:00.200 --> 1:27:03.479 great team win for us today. Um. You know, Jets 1:27:03.520 --> 1:27:05.880 are are tough, like they always are. We knew it 1:27:05.960 --> 1:27:08.679 was gonna expected this kind of a game and um, 1:27:09.360 --> 1:27:11.479 you know, the best fourth quarter team in football, so 1:27:12.000 --> 1:27:12.920 you know, we knew it was going to be a 1:27:12.920 --> 1:27:15.440 battle there all the way to the end. But um, 1:27:15.520 --> 1:27:18.760 you know, great great ending there with the you know, 1:27:18.760 --> 1:27:21.639 with the punt return. Um, you know, we we came 1:27:21.680 --> 1:27:24.679 close on a couple of punt rushes. Um blocked punt 1:27:24.800 --> 1:27:27.799 last week. So you know a combination of Russian returning 1:27:27.880 --> 1:27:32.160 is a good yeah, good, good weapon to have. Um, 1:27:32.240 --> 1:27:34.439 you know, obviously, big day for us defensively, you know, 1:27:34.479 --> 1:27:37.920 a hundred yards total offense. It's a great job by 1:27:38.000 --> 1:27:40.720 a staff of players. Um, and all the units that 1:27:40.800 --> 1:27:43.920 played running game, passing game, pass, rush coverage, third down. 1:27:44.120 --> 1:27:47.160 You know we played played well on defense, as do 1:27:47.280 --> 1:27:51.040 the Jets, and and um, you know we moved the ball. 1:27:51.080 --> 1:27:53.160 You know, we had three hundred yards offense, but only 1:27:53.160 --> 1:27:56.559 three points. Um, so did a poor job of finishing 1:27:56.560 --> 1:27:59.400 our drives, getting the ball UM in good field position, 1:27:59.560 --> 1:28:02.680 in the score in range, or getting the ball in 1:28:02.720 --> 1:28:06.360 the red area into the end zone. So um, and 1:28:06.439 --> 1:28:07.800 I got to find a way to do that better. 1:28:07.880 --> 1:28:10.320 But it's good to do it from from a win. 1:28:10.720 --> 1:28:15.519 And you know, quick, turnaround here, get ready for Minnesota, 1:28:14.800 --> 1:28:19.080 and get ready to go up there and go on 1:28:19.120 --> 1:28:25.679 Thursday night. Bill, can you teach a player to become 1:28:25.720 --> 1:28:27.479 a good punt returner or do they have to have 1:28:27.520 --> 1:28:31.040 a certain instinct? And as Marcus Jones possibly one of 1:28:31.040 --> 1:28:35.160 those players would that kind of an instinct. Uh, yeah, 1:28:35.200 --> 1:28:38.360 Marcus is really quick and uh I think Troy Troy 1:28:38.400 --> 1:28:40.880 Brown's done a great job with him. Um, you know 1:28:40.920 --> 1:28:43.519 where Marcus was when he got here and where he 1:28:43.640 --> 1:28:47.559 is now? Or are you know they're an ocean part 1:28:48.040 --> 1:28:49.920 and um, you know, Troy has really done a good 1:28:50.000 --> 1:28:52.960 job with the ball handling, ball catching, making the first 1:28:52.960 --> 1:28:57.920 guy miss ball security, um, setting up blocks, um you know, 1:28:58.520 --> 1:29:00.680 having visioned on the ball, the gun or playing the 1:29:00.680 --> 1:29:05.120 win so forth. So um, you know, Marcus, we didn't 1:29:05.120 --> 1:29:06.560 feel like he was quite ready at the beginning of 1:29:06.600 --> 1:29:10.519 the year with Miles, and uh then as Marcus got 1:29:10.560 --> 1:29:15.040 better and game more experience and confidence and then perform, well, 1:29:15.800 --> 1:29:17.880 then you know he's handled all the return game for 1:29:18.000 --> 1:29:20.800 you know, a number of weeks now. So um, yeah, 1:29:20.880 --> 1:29:22.720 certainly there's some an eight skill that goes with that. 1:29:22.840 --> 1:29:25.400 There's certainly a developmental aspect. Um. You know, we saw 1:29:25.960 --> 1:29:29.160 Edelman who never returned punts you know, league league and 1:29:29.160 --> 1:29:32.200 punt returns, and be a great punt returner here um 1:29:32.479 --> 1:29:34.640 cred like Troy Brown who came in as a as 1:29:34.640 --> 1:29:37.000 a very good returner and continued to be you know, 1:29:37.040 --> 1:29:40.400 as good as anybody we've ever had. So um, but yeah, 1:29:40.400 --> 1:29:42.759 Troy done a tremendous job with Marcus. Mars has worked 1:29:42.760 --> 1:29:46.880 hard and he's really improved and um, you know he's 1:29:46.920 --> 1:29:49.280 had a number of big returns for us. But obviously 1:29:49.320 --> 1:29:52.280 today go into the house might have been the first 1:29:52.280 --> 1:29:55.760 one in the league this year. I don't know, but yeah, so, uh, 1:29:55.880 --> 1:29:59.240 you know, obviously a huge playing a game, and you know, 1:29:59.240 --> 1:30:01.519 a great execution by the punt return team to you know, 1:30:01.560 --> 1:30:05.479 get Marcus started and then you know handle Hardy, who's 1:30:06.360 --> 1:30:10.000 you know, good coverage player Hardy Echoles, Um and Um 1:30:10.080 --> 1:30:12.080 Davis and those three guys make a lot of tackles 1:30:12.080 --> 1:30:15.040 for the Jets, so you know, if you can get 1:30:15.040 --> 1:30:17.160 them block, get it started, than you you know, at 1:30:17.240 --> 1:30:20.559 least have a chance. And then he did the rest. 1:30:20.640 --> 1:30:22.600 So um, well he didn't. I mean there was some 1:30:22.640 --> 1:30:24.920 other good blocks in there too, but that it was good. 1:30:24.960 --> 1:30:27.600 But our combination of Russia's and returns, you know, we 1:30:27.760 --> 1:30:30.120 try to you know, keep the pressure on their punt team, 1:30:30.160 --> 1:30:36.320 and I paid off for us. Bill Mac completed I 1:30:36.360 --> 1:30:38.639 think eighty five percent of his passes or so. And 1:30:38.800 --> 1:30:42.200 but obviously, like you mentioned, the offense struggle with points. 1:30:42.240 --> 1:30:45.040 So how do you kind of evaluate his performance between 1:30:45.160 --> 1:30:48.639 those two and obviously many other facts. Well, yeah, we'll 1:30:48.640 --> 1:30:50.559 take a load of the film here and see. But 1:30:50.800 --> 1:30:54.439 we we moved the ball. We had we had some 1:30:54.520 --> 1:30:57.240 good plays, but not enough and not enough consistency, and 1:30:57.360 --> 1:30:58.680 we weren't able to get the ball on the end 1:30:58.720 --> 1:31:02.000 zone or get the ball close enough often enough for 1:31:02.680 --> 1:31:05.960 what our opportunities were. Um that too many negative players 1:31:06.240 --> 1:31:10.120 holding penalty sucks and and that was a combination of things. 1:31:10.520 --> 1:31:15.880 Um so we just we gotta do a better job. Hi, Bill, 1:31:15.920 --> 1:31:18.360 I know it's probably not the best time for story time, 1:31:18.400 --> 1:31:20.360 but just a game like that we don't see too 1:31:20.439 --> 1:31:23.520 often with no offensive touchdowns where a special teams touchdowns 1:31:23.520 --> 1:31:25.080 breaks it at the end. Can you recall a game 1:31:25.120 --> 1:31:28.320 and your experience where it ended like that in the 1:31:28.360 --> 1:31:33.400 final minute where offense wasn't happening. Uh nope, no, off 1:31:33.680 --> 1:31:35.800 my head and my memory is not that good, so 1:31:35.840 --> 1:31:42.760 they probably we probably find one. But yeah, you Oconnor, Bill, 1:31:42.840 --> 1:31:44.559 you mentioned that Marcus got off to a bit of 1:31:44.560 --> 1:31:47.000 a slow start. What did you see in him at 1:31:47.000 --> 1:31:49.559 Houston and in the pre draft process that compelled you 1:31:49.600 --> 1:31:57.680 to draft him? Who's a good players? What specific qualities 1:31:58.000 --> 1:32:01.760 did you see last He's quick, I mean return punts 1:32:01.800 --> 1:32:04.040 and kickoffs down there. He also played some offense, you 1:32:04.040 --> 1:32:07.800 know as converted receiver, so he's an explosive playmaker that 1:32:07.800 --> 1:32:10.880 that end up moving to defense. Played inside played outside 1:32:11.360 --> 1:32:14.160 in return kicks, so he did all those in college. 1:32:14.479 --> 1:32:20.200 It's a good player, hey, Bill. Prior to their punt 1:32:20.200 --> 1:32:23.160 return for the touchdown, Kyle Dougga came up with a 1:32:23.200 --> 1:32:26.559 big play there on not third down. And his game 1:32:26.640 --> 1:32:30.280 was pretty good today. Yeah. Um again, I thought we 1:32:30.320 --> 1:32:31.960 played good team defense and all to look to the 1:32:31.960 --> 1:32:34.040 film and you know, see exactly how each guy did 1:32:34.040 --> 1:32:36.040 and all that. But yeah, Kyle had a number of 1:32:36.800 --> 1:32:39.400 good plays that I know is you know, tackles, coverage plays, 1:32:40.160 --> 1:32:41.880 but there are also some plays where he was able 1:32:41.920 --> 1:32:45.000 to do his job and help out on somebody else 1:32:45.040 --> 1:32:48.040 at the same time. And um, you know, just a 1:32:48.520 --> 1:32:50.960 just be a physical presence and a factor in there. 1:32:51.080 --> 1:32:52.840 You know, also gave us some plays in the kicking game. 1:32:53.280 --> 1:32:54.720 So it's good to have Kyle back. You know, we 1:32:54.760 --> 1:32:56.240 didn't him in a first game against the Jets, but 1:32:56.280 --> 1:32:59.400 it's always good to have, you know, and you're good 1:32:59.439 --> 1:33:02.200 players back there, and so van kyleback was. You know, 1:33:02.240 --> 1:33:06.879 it was great. Bill. You guys got into the stadium 1:33:07.120 --> 1:33:09.559 for the last practice of the week that we had 1:33:09.560 --> 1:33:12.120 a chance to attend his media I think on Friday, 1:33:12.160 --> 1:33:15.080 and I know the conditions today were not exactly the same. 1:33:15.120 --> 1:33:17.400 But how helpful was that to be in the stadium, 1:33:17.400 --> 1:33:20.160 particularly when you look at somebody like Marcus, who's got 1:33:20.160 --> 1:33:24.040 to handle the ball in conditions like he did today. Right, Yeah, 1:33:24.080 --> 1:33:26.400 well it was it was the Marcus play, it was 1:33:26.960 --> 1:33:31.160 John who on the squipt kick, it was um. You know, 1:33:31.240 --> 1:33:33.719 just in general, the balls went to their their boundary 1:33:34.160 --> 1:33:36.760 or their sideline and jet sideline, and that's the way 1:33:36.800 --> 1:33:40.840 we practiced on Friday. The wind was stronger today than 1:33:40.840 --> 1:33:42.759 it was on Friday, but we had the general idea 1:33:42.760 --> 1:33:44.439 on Friday about the way the ball was going to go, 1:33:44.600 --> 1:33:47.519 and you know how we would call certain returns based 1:33:47.560 --> 1:33:51.759 on whatever the situation was, the distance, the field position 1:33:52.640 --> 1:33:54.559 and the win and so forth. So it kind of 1:33:54.560 --> 1:33:58.120 did play out. It's not also, it's not always like that. 1:33:58.240 --> 1:34:01.479 Sometimes the can just and change from Friday to Sunday 1:34:01.520 --> 1:34:04.080 and the wind changes direction or a velocity or whatever, 1:34:04.120 --> 1:34:06.559 which it did. The velocity changed today, and I'd say 1:34:06.560 --> 1:34:08.439 the tough thing today was just the gusting. You know, 1:34:08.520 --> 1:34:11.160 when when Nick went out there for his field goal 1:34:11.240 --> 1:34:13.720 was pretty it was pretty still, and then when he 1:34:13.840 --> 1:34:16.080 kicked it it was really gusting up and hit the 1:34:16.320 --> 1:34:19.000 crossbar and you know, it didn't make it, but you 1:34:19.040 --> 1:34:23.240 know that ball probably you know, was affected by I 1:34:23.240 --> 1:34:25.920 don't know, five to six or eight yards, I don't 1:34:25.960 --> 1:34:27.680 know whatever it was, you know, just in that so 1:34:27.800 --> 1:34:31.800 it was you know, good kick, really closed, but you know, 1:34:32.240 --> 1:34:35.160 just just a little bit, a little bit of a 1:34:35.160 --> 1:34:37.760 difference there and kicking into that open end. You know, 1:34:37.800 --> 1:34:40.040 that was That's definitely a factor. But yeah, it was 1:34:40.080 --> 1:34:41.760 good to get in there, good to get the specialist 1:34:41.800 --> 1:34:44.280 to kick, and good to get the returners, not just 1:34:44.320 --> 1:34:48.360 the returners, but the guys blocking to you know, anticipate 1:34:48.400 --> 1:34:50.880 the direction of the ball and and you know how 1:34:50.920 --> 1:34:54.280 the return was going to be set up based on 1:34:54.360 --> 1:35:00.320 where the wind was going to carry it. U built 1:35:00.360 --> 1:35:02.720 where Trent had started every game for you guys this 1:35:02.800 --> 1:35:05.080 year at left tackle and wasn't on the injury report 1:35:05.160 --> 1:35:07.439 this week. What went into the decision to sit him 1:35:07.560 --> 1:35:12.240 until Isaiah got hurt? Uh? Yeah, it was a coaching decision. 1:35:19.640 --> 1:35:22.280 I built. Question about your punting unit this time. You 1:35:22.360 --> 1:35:24.120 have a new punter and with this kind of a 1:35:24.200 --> 1:35:27.720 weather condition, Uh, is there any particular adjustment you have 1:35:27.760 --> 1:35:30.599 to make, especially you know, shifting from Jake to Mike 1:35:30.760 --> 1:35:34.960 from a righty to lefty. Yeah, sure, anytime you change 1:35:34.960 --> 1:35:38.000 a position like that, there's there are some adjustments, um, 1:35:38.040 --> 1:35:41.720 in the punning game righty to lefty, and you know, 1:35:41.800 --> 1:35:44.720 just overall timing, certainly for a snapper like Joe or 1:35:44.960 --> 1:35:46.280 you chart to put the wall on the right hit 1:35:46.320 --> 1:35:48.160 for a right punter and left hit for left foot punter. 1:35:48.160 --> 1:35:50.439 It's a little bit of an adjustment there. But then 1:35:50.840 --> 1:35:53.120 you know, also you know, Michael did the holding on 1:35:53.200 --> 1:35:55.599 the field goals, you know, for Jake, and and then 1:35:55.680 --> 1:35:58.760 Nick did the kickoffs for Jake. So um, there were 1:35:58.880 --> 1:36:05.120 multiple adjustments with Jake not available today that both Nick 1:36:05.160 --> 1:36:09.640 and Um Michael had to make. And in addition, you know, 1:36:09.760 --> 1:36:14.200 Joe Cardona, so you know, the rest of it's everybody 1:36:14.200 --> 1:36:17.240 else kind of you know, they're blocking assignments and coverage 1:36:17.240 --> 1:36:19.559 responsibility and all that are like all pretty much the same, 1:36:19.600 --> 1:36:22.040 but certainly the direction of kick, the hang time of 1:36:22.080 --> 1:36:24.360 the kick, and and you know the way the balls kicked. 1:36:24.479 --> 1:36:27.519 Nick's kickoffs versus Jake's kickoffs. There there are definitely some 1:36:27.560 --> 1:36:31.400 differences there that we um you know, had to adjust to. 1:36:31.560 --> 1:36:33.680 But that's you know, that's what you have to do. 1:36:33.760 --> 1:36:35.240 You know, you always want to play into the strength 1:36:35.240 --> 1:36:39.040 of your specialists, and so that's you know, we try 1:36:39.080 --> 1:36:44.960 to play into that. Bill, Do do you feel like 1:36:45.000 --> 1:36:47.640 your offense and MAC are close to a breakthrough of 1:36:47.720 --> 1:36:49.800 kind of cleaning up some of those mistakes are getting 1:36:49.800 --> 1:36:51.400 the points that you want or are you a little 1:36:51.439 --> 1:36:54.240 concerned that even from this point on it's just going 1:36:54.320 --> 1:36:58.719 to be a slog and a fight for this offense. Yeah, well, again, 1:36:58.840 --> 1:37:01.240 we move the ball. We just didn't have enough points. 1:37:01.240 --> 1:37:04.080 So we got to do a better job of scoring 1:37:04.120 --> 1:37:06.160 more points when we get down there. And when we 1:37:06.200 --> 1:37:08.920 get close to scoring points, you know, thirty thirty five 1:37:08.960 --> 1:37:11.040 yard line all the way to you know, get the 1:37:11.040 --> 1:37:12.880 ball closer to get some points on the board. So 1:37:13.320 --> 1:37:15.000 it wasn't like we couldn't move the ball. You know, 1:37:15.040 --> 1:37:18.400 we had you know, several good opportunities, but we just 1:37:20.200 --> 1:37:24.720 you know, penalties, negative plays, dropped the ball, missed opportunities. 1:37:24.840 --> 1:37:26.360 You know, just have to do a better job there. 1:37:26.720 --> 1:37:30.320 And again, get the Jets credit coach, you know, Salal 1:37:30.760 --> 1:37:32.760 and his staff and their players they have you know, 1:37:32.840 --> 1:37:35.040 they have a really good defense. I mean we all 1:37:35.080 --> 1:37:38.160 know that. So but we're gonna see good defenses, you know, 1:37:38.600 --> 1:37:40.760 for the rest of the year as well. So you 1:37:40.800 --> 1:37:45.519 know we just got on coach and play beat. Okay, great, 1:37:45.560 --> 1:37:49.479 thank you? All right, all right, there's your head coach there. 1:37:49.520 --> 1:37:51.640 After today's ten three win over the Jets, do you 1:37:51.640 --> 1:37:54.680 feel like they moved the ball today? I mean, I know, statistically, 1:37:54.720 --> 1:37:58.439 you know, Mac completed most of his past attempts today 1:37:58.439 --> 1:38:00.760 and through for two hundred forty six yards, and there 1:38:00.880 --> 1:38:04.720 was some offense. But I mean, just watching the game, 1:38:04.760 --> 1:38:08.720 did the Patriots move the ball effectively today? Well, they 1:38:08.840 --> 1:38:13.000 moved the ball at times, they did. I didn't say 1:38:13.920 --> 1:38:16.240 I would say that they probably should have had you know, 1:38:17.600 --> 1:38:21.800 nine points, you know, maybe maybe sixteen, But they didn't 1:38:21.840 --> 1:38:23.680 move the ball. They had two hundred and ninety seven 1:38:23.760 --> 1:38:26.360 yards of offense for an entire game. I know. That's 1:38:26.400 --> 1:38:28.160 not moving the ball. They got down to the seven 1:38:28.160 --> 1:38:30.000 and they got zero. Right, That's why some you know, 1:38:30.240 --> 1:38:33.679 at a field goal, you know, somewhere. But to say 1:38:33.680 --> 1:38:38.800 that they moved the ball, I don't think, Bill believe. 1:38:39.479 --> 1:38:44.360 I don't think that's a pathetically low number in an 1:38:44.439 --> 1:38:47.240 NFL game. Now, it's it's a comparison to the hundred 1:38:47.320 --> 1:38:50.599 the Jets. But but I mean, in comparison last week, 1:38:50.680 --> 1:38:53.920 two weeks ago Jet against the Colts two three, two 1:38:53.920 --> 1:38:56.200 eighty eight. Last time against the Jets two sixty verse 1:38:56.280 --> 1:38:58.240 the Bears. I think it's is it five in a 1:38:58.360 --> 1:39:00.000 row or four in a row? Under three hundred year 1:39:00.160 --> 1:39:04.040 in a row what you're looking for. Yeah, they've been 1:39:04.120 --> 1:39:06.559 under three hundred four games in a row. Yeah, they've 1:39:06.560 --> 1:39:09.639 only broken three hundred yards four times this year. That's 1:39:09.760 --> 1:39:12.479 really bad. Yeah, the other two seventy one against the 1:39:12.479 --> 1:39:16.439 Dolphins and just to somehow to somehow for Bill to 1:39:16.760 --> 1:39:19.160 you know, to kind of chalk it up to, well, 1:39:20.240 --> 1:39:22.360 you know, we dropped a couple and a couple of 1:39:22.439 --> 1:39:25.400 negative plays and you know, credit to the Jets too 1:39:27.040 --> 1:39:33.400 that I don't think he believes it, but I shuddered 1:39:33.439 --> 1:39:35.439 to think if he actually believes it, like, oh no, 1:39:35.479 --> 1:39:38.080 we're really close because we're moving the ball. They punted 1:39:38.160 --> 1:39:44.439 seven times. Well what happened to them? Happens to bad offenses. Well, yeah, 1:39:44.600 --> 1:39:49.719 but there are times when you know, you just find 1:39:49.720 --> 1:39:51.280 a way to move and you go for it on 1:39:51.400 --> 1:39:54.800 fourth down, you don't, you know, make it or you know, 1:39:55.560 --> 1:39:58.559 you get maybe inside the five if you get a 1:39:58.600 --> 1:40:00.920 penalty and get put best. Not what happened in this game, 1:40:01.000 --> 1:40:03.120 like they didn't. They weren't on the verge of scoring 1:40:03.200 --> 1:40:05.880 touchdowns like constantly in this game. The way he's now, 1:40:05.960 --> 1:40:08.479 I get it. He's trying to he's trying to prop 1:40:08.520 --> 1:40:11.040 up his young quarterback, and I understand it, but it's 1:40:11.160 --> 1:40:13.720 not really the way the game unfolded. All right? Would 1:40:13.760 --> 1:40:16.240 you agree? Yeah? I would agree. 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I'm that guy live from 1:42:07.720 --> 1:42:12.719 our studios inside Galette Stadium. Here's Hardy. Thank you NFL 1:42:12.880 --> 1:42:17.200 all day. All your favorite Patriots highlights become digital video 1:42:17.280 --> 1:42:20.519 collectibles called Moments moment. Not only can you buy and 1:42:20.600 --> 1:42:23.880 sell them on a secure marketplace with thousands of NFL fans, 1:42:23.920 --> 1:42:27.120 you can use them to compete in epic Game Day challenges. 1:42:27.200 --> 1:42:29.920 Check it out. Find some moments from all your favorite 1:42:29.920 --> 1:42:33.680 Pats players at NFL all day dot com. Back to 1:42:33.720 --> 1:42:36.920 the phones, Alex's in California, Alex, thanks for joining us. 1:42:36.920 --> 1:42:45.439 What do you got, Addax? Going once? You only get twice? 1:42:45.520 --> 1:42:48.000 Good job, Hardy. Now I see that wasn't me, that 1:42:48.160 --> 1:42:50.440 was that was Marie Man and there I haven't show. 1:42:50.439 --> 1:42:52.800 You haven't dropped anybody making sport of me? Yeah? I haven't. 1:42:52.800 --> 1:42:54.080 Then this is the last call. I'm not going to 1:42:54.160 --> 1:42:56.120 drop you either, Lewis and Orlando. What do you got 1:42:56.200 --> 1:43:00.559 Lewis Fellas? I just want to hand this show on 1:43:00.640 --> 1:43:03.719 this No really, I don't know what's wrong with all 1:43:04.080 --> 1:43:08.400 Patriots fans, but New England six and four, six and four, 1:43:08.439 --> 1:43:11.360 and all we do is complaining about the offense, about 1:43:11.360 --> 1:43:14.639 the defense and all this shenanigans. But look at the Rams, 1:43:15.000 --> 1:43:19.080 look at the Cardinals. Go Ast Daniels over in Raiders. 1:43:20.000 --> 1:43:21.840 What do you what do you care about the Cardinals for? 1:43:23.000 --> 1:43:24.840 What do you care about the Rams for? Don't you 1:43:24.880 --> 1:43:29.599 care about your team? Like like six six and four? Good? 1:43:31.000 --> 1:43:33.599 Could you imagine being the Rams sitting there, sitting there 1:43:33.479 --> 1:43:35.760 and winning the Super Bowl? Ten months ago, like a 1:43:35.760 --> 1:43:38.840 bunch of idiots. Yeah, that would suck. Yeah, I mean, 1:43:39.160 --> 1:43:40.800 I don't know. I don't know who's complaining about the 1:43:40.840 --> 1:43:43.680 defense right now, not us. I mean, the defense is 1:43:43.680 --> 1:43:45.680 winning you games. I don't know. I hadn't really heard 1:43:45.760 --> 1:43:48.920 much criticism of the defense personally, the offense. You can't 1:43:48.920 --> 1:43:51.320 win by scoring three points. New England fans are constantly 1:43:51.360 --> 1:43:56.320 just complaining, complaining about the offense because they're not very good. Yeah. Also, 1:43:56.400 --> 1:43:59.080 did you just get here? I mean, if they want 1:43:59.080 --> 1:44:01.680 they won six Super Bulls. People around here understand what 1:44:01.720 --> 1:44:03.599 it looks like when you have a team that's capable 1:44:03.640 --> 1:44:06.600 of winning big. This isn't a team that looks like 1:44:06.640 --> 1:44:11.040 that offensively, So people are concerned about it. I mean, 1:44:11.160 --> 1:44:12.880 I think I think that's that's all it is. I 1:44:12.920 --> 1:44:16.920 think people are concerned about the offense. Yes, I hear 1:44:16.920 --> 1:44:20.320 you on that, But we've also had offensive teams that 1:44:20.400 --> 1:44:23.320 were their offensives weren't as good as their defense, and 1:44:23.360 --> 1:44:26.840 the defense carry us. But that's not going to happen now. 1:44:29.080 --> 1:44:31.360 I don't know. I stay positive. I think that the 1:44:31.360 --> 1:44:33.800 team is you know, absolutely, we have some work to 1:44:33.880 --> 1:44:35.880 do it on the offensive line, et cetera, et cetera. 1:44:35.960 --> 1:44:39.160 But hey man, six and four making our way up there. 1:44:39.360 --> 1:44:42.240 We got a tough schedule ahead, But go Patsy. I'm 1:44:42.240 --> 1:44:44.439 with you, Lewis. I think that's that's how you end 1:44:44.439 --> 1:44:46.280 a post game show. Because I said, I wasn't going 1:44:46.360 --> 1:44:48.680 to qualify that it'll win today, and I'm not going 1:44:48.760 --> 1:44:50.800 to do do they got the win, I think that they won't. 1:44:50.880 --> 1:44:54.640 If the things that Mac were responsible for we're looking okay, 1:44:55.000 --> 1:44:58.960 people wouldn't be as freaked out. But you know, because 1:44:59.000 --> 1:45:01.000 you can fix the other thing things. But when your 1:45:01.080 --> 1:45:05.000 quarterback is having trouble, now you're stuck, you know. So 1:45:06.400 --> 1:45:09.720 everybody was hoping for that second year progress and we 1:45:09.800 --> 1:45:13.360 haven't seen it. That's that's the big thing, right And 1:45:13.360 --> 1:45:16.280 and not all of it is his fault. I think 1:45:16.320 --> 1:45:19.800 we all, you know, like tough to judge them in 1:45:19.800 --> 1:45:23.320 this situation, it really is, but there are things that 1:45:24.240 --> 1:45:28.559 he does that are his responsibility that aren't looking good 1:45:28.560 --> 1:45:32.320 as well. Absolutely, And by the way I said this, 1:45:32.439 --> 1:45:34.479 going back to last year, before we knew that it 1:45:34.560 --> 1:45:36.760 was going to be Matt Patricia and some dual role 1:45:36.800 --> 1:45:40.680 as offensive line coach and de facto offensive coordinator, I 1:45:40.800 --> 1:45:43.320 went back to going back to the last offseason when 1:45:43.360 --> 1:45:46.360 I was saying, hey, don't automatically chalk up Mac being 1:45:46.439 --> 1:45:49.519 better next year. That's not That's not an automatic thing 1:45:49.560 --> 1:45:52.560 for his second year quarterback. He can either remain stagnants. 1:45:52.600 --> 1:45:54.840 Sometimes they take a step back in the second year. 1:45:55.040 --> 1:45:58.000 And I think you're seeing a combination of some you 1:45:58.040 --> 1:46:01.840 know some some you know, bad cards being dealt to 1:46:01.920 --> 1:46:04.880 him and him not playing very well. It's it's a 1:46:04.880 --> 1:46:08.720 one two punch that you know results in what you 1:46:08.760 --> 1:46:10.920 saw today. Yeah, and then you can have both. And 1:46:10.920 --> 1:46:12.439 I think that's we spent a lot of our time 1:46:12.439 --> 1:46:14.599 trying to divide up the blame pie, but you do. 1:46:14.640 --> 1:46:16.080 And I think you just if you want to invest 1:46:16.080 --> 1:46:18.960 in a quarterback long term, you want to believe that, Look, 1:46:18.960 --> 1:46:20.680 he doesn't have to be everybody's not going to be 1:46:20.680 --> 1:46:22.720 Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady, but you want to hope 1:46:22.760 --> 1:46:25.600 that you have a guy that can overcome some adversity. 1:46:25.600 --> 1:46:27.439 And I think what we've seen out of Mac over 1:46:27.479 --> 1:46:30.439 the last calendar year call it is a guy that 1:46:30.600 --> 1:46:32.719 can't really, you know, lead a team through the adversity. 1:46:32.760 --> 1:46:35.000 If it's bad, he's he's not really able to rise 1:46:35.000 --> 1:46:38.240 above that yet, so we'll see it's it's it's been 1:46:38.240 --> 1:46:40.840 a disappointing and tough year for him. Uh. That is 1:46:40.880 --> 1:46:43.320 going to do it for this Patriots postgame show. I 1:46:43.360 --> 1:46:47.439 want to thank everybody responsible for this fine, fine program 1:46:47.800 --> 1:46:50.000 h and everyone who called an emailed, and we didn't 1:46:50.000 --> 1:46:52.200 get to most of the emails today to a lot 1:46:52.200 --> 1:46:53.760 of them though, and all the phone calls, so you know, 1:46:53.800 --> 1:46:56.280 we do what we can. Um, We're gonna see you 1:46:56.320 --> 1:46:59.720 again very very shortly, just a few days from now. 1:46:59.760 --> 1:47:02.800 We will meet days from right now. Yeah, meet back 1:47:02.880 --> 1:47:06.759 here from right now. We're doing a six o'clock pregame 1:47:06.800 --> 1:47:12.720 on Thanksgiving, six pm pregame shows ninety six hours as 1:47:12.760 --> 1:47:17.559 the Patriots face off against the Vikings. Who I guess 1:47:17.600 --> 1:47:19.800 I shouldn't be concerned about they getting shut out? How 1:47:19.800 --> 1:47:21.240 are they got only a field goal right now? So 1:47:21.280 --> 1:47:24.320 we'll see, she say, be concerned about it. I just 1:47:24.360 --> 1:47:26.519 said that Kirk Cousins didn't play very well last week, 1:47:26.600 --> 1:47:28.840 and that's the only thing that I said. And it 1:47:28.840 --> 1:47:32.000 looks like multiple facets of the Vikings are not playing 1:47:32.120 --> 1:47:34.400 very well right now against the Cowboys. Some might call 1:47:34.520 --> 1:47:36.799 them as some might call them a house of cards. 1:47:37.120 --> 1:47:39.400 I might call them a fraud. They should have lost 1:47:39.400 --> 1:47:41.400 to your Detroit Lions. They should have lost to the 1:47:41.479 --> 1:47:43.840 Chicago Bears, but they didn't. How are you gonna do? 1:47:43.920 --> 1:47:47.000 How did the Lions do today? The Lions? They did winning. 1:47:47.120 --> 1:47:50.000 Oh that's right. Your coach didn't go for a fourth 1:47:50.080 --> 1:47:52.120 down from like his own thirty. They would have beaten 1:47:52.200 --> 1:47:54.800 the Vikings too. Who picked the Lions out of the 1:47:54.800 --> 1:47:56.960 three of us today? To know you did? Rob? Oh, 1:47:57.000 --> 1:47:59.800 thank you very much. Good job, Rob. Final score for 1:47:59.840 --> 1:48:04.720 the final time Jets three, Patriots ten. That's for you, 1:48:04.840 --> 1:48:08.200 Paul Wolf. Thank you for listening and watching. Thank you 1:48:08.240 --> 1:48:11.800 for downloading this podcast. Subscribe on Apple, google Play, and 1:48:11.920 --> 1:48:14.920 everywhere else you listen. Like the show, Please rate and 1:48:15.040 --> 1:48:18.280 review us. Listener comments and ratings help keep us high 1:48:18.280 --> 1:48:21.160 in the podcast rankings so new listeners can find us. 1:48:21.360 --> 1:48:24.519 Be sure to Checkpatriots dot com for more news and 1:48:24.760 --> 1:48:25.800 more podcasts.