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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to our number two of the Drive here

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio. He is Matt Williamson, I'm Dale Lollie.

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Speaker 2: We are looking here offensively at the Pro Football Focus

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Speaker 2: position rankings. They ranked the top thirty two at each

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Speaker 2: position in the league. We did quarterbacks last week. Well,

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Speaker 2: we're just done running backs and wide receivers in the

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Speaker 2: previous hour. Here, let's take a look at their tight

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Speaker 2: end rankings going into this one. And this is one.

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Speaker 2: All tight ends are not built the same.

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Speaker 3: No, No, they're definitely asked to do different things. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I will say thirty two tight ends is different than

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Speaker 3: thirty two backs. A lot of few receivers, of course,

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Speaker 3: And I also think I'm gonna say it's a golden

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Speaker 3: age of tight ends, but I think there's more good

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Speaker 3: ones than there usually have been good. The old guys

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Speaker 3: are still hanging around producing, and we saw the Kinkaid

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Speaker 3: Laporta stretch. There's been a nice influx of young guys

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Speaker 3: that have made a splash.

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Speaker 2: So at number thirty two on their list is Kate

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Speaker 2: Aughton with Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 3: We could probably skip through the Yeah, I'm not ignore, but.

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Speaker 2: The lower part of the list is yeah. Thirty one

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Speaker 2: Mike Kasicki with the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: You think he does much there, man, I mean he's

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Speaker 3: never good for me.

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Speaker 2: He's a glorified watch RECEI.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean he's a slot.

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Speaker 2: Thirty Hayden Hurst with the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: That's his third team, forty fourth. I know he's been

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Speaker 3: a Panther Raven Falcon. Yeah, yeah, he came in a

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Speaker 3: league old.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a draft pick of the Pirates. Twenty nine

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Speaker 2: zach Ertz still holding on to the list here.

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Speaker 3: Oh then, ol, we can chug along at this position.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. Twenty eight Tyler Higbee with the Rams.

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Speaker 3: I think he's falling off too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's uh, he's heading toward the end here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Twenty seven with the Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: He's a splash player here and there, but kind of

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Speaker 3: a tease. Never lived up to the first round thing,

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Speaker 3: and nobably won't at this point.

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Speaker 2: Twenty six Isaiah Likely with the ravens Now.

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Speaker 3: I think that's fair. I mean I take him over

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Speaker 3: all these guys back to the argument of you know

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Speaker 3: Waddal and Dvante Smith being the two or can he

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Speaker 3: play every day? I mean the Warren Gibbs thing. Could

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Speaker 3: he be every down? The same? Dude? He's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five Taysom Hill. Come on, man, come on?

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Speaker 3: Is he a tight end?

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Speaker 2: He shouldn't be on this list?

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Speaker 3: No, I agree. I mean, does he run routes?

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Speaker 2: And the thing Hill isn't a true tight end? Is

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Speaker 2: he actually a true hybrid? Well, then why is he

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Speaker 2: on your tight end list? Yeah, you don't need to

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Speaker 2: include him. I disagree with that strongly.

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Speaker 3: Does he I mean, I'm not sure if either of

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Speaker 3: us know this answer. I bet he goes to the

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Speaker 3: tight end room, not the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I guess at this point. But they don't use him

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Speaker 2: like a tight end. No, yeah, he wouldn't be on

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Speaker 2: my list. Twenty four John new Smith.

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Speaker 3: I've always been a fan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They got a lot out of him in Atlanta last year.

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Speaker 2: Twenty three Luke Musgrave with the Packers.

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Speaker 3: He was really high on my list of that great

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Speaker 3: class and flashed and then he got hurt and then

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Speaker 3: the other kid that they drafted sort of went past them.

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Speaker 2: A little yeh.

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Speaker 3: But kraft Craft Yeah, Tucker Craft, Tucker Craft. I like

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Speaker 3: what Muskrave does so he can get that feeling.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two Chicken Kwonkwo with the Titans.

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Speaker 3: I liked the more a year ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of I'd rather have musk Grave.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would too. I might rather have I'd.

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Speaker 2: Rather have John ash Smith. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Twenty one Tyler Conklin underrated. He did nothing around him,

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Speaker 3: and he's had a pretty good career.

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Speaker 2: Twenty Dawson Knox.

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Speaker 3: I think he's going the wrong way too, kind of

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Speaker 3: like Higbee. Yeah, when they drafted Kincaid, I think it

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Speaker 2: Nineteen Gerald Everett with the Bears.

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Speaker 3: He's been a lot of teams lately too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's kind of like Whitebread.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean him and Jigger about the same for me.

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Speaker 3: Undersized and consistent.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen is Hunter Henry.

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Speaker 3: I think that's fair. I mean I think he's kind

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Speaker 3: of like Grimondre Stevenson on that offense, like it wasn't

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Speaker 3: his fault. Yeah, but he also isn't scaring anything dynamic.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing dynamic there. Uh. Seventeen Darren Waller retired today

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Speaker 2: or rumored to be. That's been all off season. I

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Speaker 2: expect him to retire.

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Speaker 3: Expected to retire, Yeah, and.

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Speaker 2: He he's a tight ending name. He's just again another

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Speaker 3: We had a good conversation about him today. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I guess he's into music and stuff, and hey, good

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Speaker 3: for you. But I mean he was the last in

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Speaker 3: the line of that the Marius Thomas, Calvin Johnson, fast

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Speaker 3: huge wide receivers on a team that ran the ball

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Speaker 3: like ninety percent of snaps busted out and then you know,

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Speaker 3: he talked about his substance abuse issues and then reinvented himself.

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Speaker 3: So it's a good story. Yeah, but I don't think

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Speaker 3: he's it's probably time to retire.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen Dalton Schultz quality, Yeah, he's a B.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen Pat Fryarmouth seems low and I would have him

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Speaker 3: over everyone listed.

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Speaker 2: He's coming off an injury and say this year and

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Speaker 2: didn't do them a lot. If he had had another

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Speaker 2: season comparable to what he had done his first two years,

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Speaker 2: he's probably much higher on this list.

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Speaker 3: He actually kind of reminds me like T Higgins. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, just the season they had. It's not all

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Speaker 3: their fault, but you can't reward them for that season.

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Speaker 4: Right, you know? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: And he's top twelve are pretty good? He was he

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Speaker 3: fifteen he said fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, fourteen is brock Bowers. Again. You're putting a

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Speaker 2: rookie on here. That's not fair. Thirteen Dalton Concaid.

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Speaker 3: He's a certain type. I mean, but I think he's

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Speaker 3: he gets open, and I think he's gonna leave that team.

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Speaker 3: In receiving. He's an put up numbers. I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: Hundred and one targets last year.

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Speaker 3: I bet he has one thirty this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. Twelve Jake Ferguson.

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Speaker 3: I would trade fire Muth for Ferguson, but I understand

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Speaker 3: Ferguson a better year. Yeah, I don't know that he'll

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Speaker 3: Dalton Schultz to me.

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Speaker 2: Eleven. Cole Comet, these are guys I would take.

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Speaker 2: I I'd take Firemouth over Ferguson. I'd take Firemouth over

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Speaker 3: I mean, this isn't all fantasy and all production, but

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Speaker 3: I don't think Comet will be very fantasy relevant with

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Speaker 2: No, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he probably peaked.

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Speaker 2: Uh ten.

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Speaker 3: Evan Ingram, he's a glorified receiver too. Yeah, but he

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Speaker 3: had on targets, right, I mean, I mean he got

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Speaker 2: Uh nine, David and Joku.

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Speaker 3: He's give him credit. I mean he's definitely stepped up

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Speaker 3: There's some inconsistencies and there always will be drops. You

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Speaker 2: Pick it just showed. I mean, you know, his breakout

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Speaker 3: Wasn't really Yeah, Wow, it's been that long, and so

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Speaker 3: did Angram. Right, they're the same draft.

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Speaker 2: It took them a while to get to where they

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Speaker 2: needed to be.

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Speaker 3: Brown stuck with them. The Giants didn't, but he would

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Speaker 3: probably been hard to stick with. I remember, like when

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Speaker 3: the closest one I'd ever thought of, right, do it

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Speaker 3: or not?

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Speaker 2: Eight.

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Speaker 3: Trey McBride ascending though, Yeah, I think he's I mean,

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Speaker 3: the Steelers fans saw him in person. I think he's rocketing.

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Speaker 3: Him and Kinkid are going to be flying this list.

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Speaker 2: Good player.

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Speaker 2: Seven Kyle Pitts.

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Speaker 3: I heard the craziest thing about Kyle Pitts while I

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Speaker 3: was driving here. He is still so young that when

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Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey was Kyle Pitts's age right now, Kelsey had

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Speaker 3: zero NFL catches. You know what I mean, Like, there's

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Speaker 3: still a lot ahead of this guy. Oh yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: Six Dallas Goddard solid.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he reminds me what Keith Miller. Yeah, a little bit,

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Speaker 3: but be in the Eagles Ring of Honor, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, right right. Five Sam laporta amazing season.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's I don't think it was flashing

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Speaker 2: For t J. Hawkinson.

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Speaker 3: Injuries looming bad, but you can't thing them for that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah Yeah, good player, good player. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Three Mark Andrews.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he's legit, he's legit. I think the top three

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Speaker 2: To Travis Kelsey.

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Speaker 3: I saw that. I remember that. Yeah, Kittle's just a

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Speaker 3: way better blocker.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Kittle is number one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I mean looking at those two guys. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's and they're asked to do different things.

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Speaker 3: That's what I say. Like, I hate when people say

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Speaker 3: these things like, well, what if we flip their situation, Well,

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Speaker 3: they would never ask Kelsey to block like Kittle, right

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Speaker 3: of course. But I do think Kittle would put up

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Speaker 3: bigger numbers with the Chiefs receiving than he does with

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Speaker 3: San Francisco. Yes, maybe the number one target, not the third, right, right,

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Speaker 3: I think he's capable of that, but he's fun to

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Speaker 3: root for it too.

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Speaker 2: Let's move on real quickly here to the offensive tackle rankings. Okay,

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Speaker 2: no Steelers made this list. Now, Yeah, if we're talking

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Speaker 2: a year from now, maybe that's a different case here, because, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the the guys here from like twenty down or not.

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Speaker 3: No, it's I mean, that's why it was a tackle shortage,

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Speaker 3: why you drafted them in the first round two years

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Speaker 2: So thirty two Darnell Right with the Bears.

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Speaker 3: He's going up though, Yeah, he's been successful for a rookie.

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Speaker 2: Thirty one Braxton Jones with the Bears.

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Speaker 3: Solid right tackle or left tackle, you know special.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, former first round pick that lived up to it.

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Speaker 2: On every every week. Eleven Andrew Thomas with the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Ali. He is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt we were going through the those offensive

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Speaker 3: I did see that.

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Speaker 3: a top three player.

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Speaker 2: And on the other hand, you look at those three players,

448
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 2: you go, well, those three guys, those three guys might

449
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,800
Speaker 2: be among the top players on every team in the league.

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Speaker 3: Right And when we talked defensive ranks from Pro Football

451
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 3: Focused Tomorrow, these guys are all highly ranked, right, Yeah,

452
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 3: and they're You're obviously had a very good defense on

453
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Speaker 3: these three players backs and others for a long time.

454
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Speaker 2: Then.

455
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's been a really good situation. Three different

456
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 3: positions on defense, they all do different stuff. And so

457
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,360
Speaker 3: back to your question. The only guy I could see

458
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,239
Speaker 3: getting challenge though, is Cam. I mean, it doesn't mean

459
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Speaker 3: you have to go backwards for someone.

460
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Speaker 2: I don't see t J. Watt falling off. I don't

461
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Speaker 2: see I don't see make a fitz Patrick falling off

462
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Speaker 2: the cliff.

463
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Speaker 3: But we could come with a lot of names that

464
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Speaker 3: could challenge them.

465
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Speaker 2: High Smith being one of them, yeah, Patrick Queen being Queen,

466
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Speaker 2: Joey Porter Junior being one of those guys that push

467
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Speaker 2: his way onto that list, Yeah, George Pickens being a

468
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 2: guy that could push his way onto that list.

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Speaker 3: Back to our segment of we could go or a

470
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Speaker 3: minute ago, if one of.

471
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Speaker 2: The tackles, one of the tackles could be really happy,

472
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Speaker 2: he could be on that list.

473
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Speaker 3: Yeah, could be really happy. I think Russell Wilson has

474
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Speaker 3: a chance. I mean, I'm not predicting it, but I'm

475
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Speaker 3: just who's who's possible. I think friar Mouth has a chance.

476
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 3: Like who do you want on that list? Is almost

477
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Speaker 3: the conversation, right, I mean quarterbacks aside. I love the

478
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,439
Speaker 3: Steelers pair of guards, but if one of those are

479
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,120
Speaker 3: your top three players, that's not good. Yeah, other things

480
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 3: are going wrong, you know what I mean, Like Cam

481
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 3: fell off and nobody stepped up.

482
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,959
Speaker 2: And you know, Keanu Benton could be on them.

483
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Speaker 3: Benton's the name I would come up with both tackles

484
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 3: question Friarmuth pickings. So there's a lot of options that

485
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 3: could certainly push those guys out. The problem is, I

486
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 3: don't two of the three almost have no chance of

487
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 3: going backwards, right, and the other one's been a stalwart

488
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Speaker 3: for a decade.

489
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is highly motivated. Yeah, this year after

490
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Speaker 2: having helped you know, an injury front an injury season

491
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 2: last year, and I think that was injury, not age.

492
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Speaker 2: My money is on Cam to bounce back this year.

493
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Speaker 2: You have a big.

494
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Speaker 3: Season exactly, So what percent chance are you from now

495
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,919
Speaker 3: that's still the same three who probably better than most teams.

496
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's roll through something and see you know

497
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 2: who it is for each team. So for the Cardinals

498
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Speaker 2: it's Kyler Murray, Buddha Baker, Marvin Harrison.

499
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Speaker 3: So you got to you can't put rookies on you.

500
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 2: You've got a guy on this list as your best

501
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 2: player who's a rookie's never never played it down. That's

502
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Speaker 2: a problem.

503
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Speaker 3: I mean in terms of who's the most valuable Cardinals.

504
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Speaker 2: Three months from now, we might be saying Marvin Harrison

505
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Speaker 2: belongs on there.

506
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Speaker 3: No doubt, But I can't put it. It's all these lists,

507
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 3: I can't put a rookie on there.

508
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

509
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Speaker 2: For the Falcons, Chris Lindstrom, Jesse Bates, Kirk Cousins. Again,

510
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Speaker 2: one of them's never played it down for you before,

511
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 2: and another one's a guard.

512
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a problem in a safety Yeah, and that's

513
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 3: not ideal either. They're good players, but they want that.

514
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Speaker 2: None of whom Lindstrom was there. But Bates and Cousins

515
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 2: are two guys that you've added in the last two years,

516
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Speaker 2: in the last twelve months.

517
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Speaker 3: Really yeah, yeah, they're not homegrown talents. You had went

518
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Speaker 3: out and bottom.

519
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've had top ten draft.

520
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Speaker 3: Picks Cousins aside, like they would like that list to

521
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Speaker 3: be be John Linds from London.

522
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, or Pitts or yeah yeah yeah.

523
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Speaker 4: Uh.

524
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Speaker 2: For the Ravens it's Lamar Jackson, Rokwan Smith, Kyle Hamilton.

525
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 3: I agree with that.

526
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but again you're looking at it and inside back,

527
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Speaker 2: inside linebacker, safety, quarterback, you know, would they would they

528
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Speaker 2: be happy? Well, we need I mean they're paying Ronnie

529
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Speaker 2: Stanley right to be one of those guys.

530
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

531
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Speaker 3: Matta Bouquet probably four Yeah, after the last year.

532
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 2: He was also considered, as was Mark Andrews.

533
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Speaker 3: I think about Andrews, Yeah, I mean he's a top

534
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 3: five tight end.

535
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 2: For the Bills, it's Josh Allen, Matt Mulano, Gregory Russo.

536
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 3: Missing hurt them a lot, that killed him last year, shouldn't.

537
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure who's better, But for a team, it's

538
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 3: one of the many games they have that's okay. But

539
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 3: he's not a star.

540
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 2: But also considered guy was Daikon Jones, who.

541
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Speaker 3: Say even Oliver, Yeah, they want that to be Kincaid

542
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Speaker 3: or something that right.

543
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Speaker 4: Uh.

544
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Speaker 2: For the Carolina Panthers, this is the problem for them.

545
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: Derrick Brown, Jon he's I think he's clearly number one. Yeah.

546
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 2: J C. Horn, he could be.

547
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 3: He's never on the field.

548
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 2: To Davian Clowney. That's when you have issues like that's

549
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 2: the worst league. They signed Clowney less than a month.

550
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 3: Ago, and I don't think people were beating on his door. No,

551
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 3: you need to get some offensive guys on.

552
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: They also considered guard Robert Hunt.

553
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Speaker 3: Another new edition that you're depending on. Yeah, uh drafted yeah.

554
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: For the Bears. Jalen Johnson. Okay, Okay, Montes sweat nice. Well,

555
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 2: now you're talking that's not you know, but.

556
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Speaker 3: The Bears were in the Panther shoes a year or

557
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 3: two ago. Now it's coming around.

558
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jalen Johnson knows the only guy on that list

559
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Speaker 2: that you drafted.

560
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you on that list, right, you know, right?

561
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Speaker 2: Even there are others considered, Caleb Williams, Keenan Allen, T. J.

562
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 2: Edwards mm hmm, well again Allen and Edwards are free

563
00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 2: agent guys.

564
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 3: That you, yeah, go out and they spent a lot.

565
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 3: It looks like they spend it in good ways.

566
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Speaker 2: For the Bengals, Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, Trey Henderson, it's

567
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: really good. Yeah.

568
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Speaker 3: I mean, you have quarterback receiver at ed Rusher, you're

569
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Speaker 3: pretty happy.

570
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Speaker 2: For the Browns. This is a problem for the Browns.

571
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 2: It's gonna be Garrett, Zadarius Smith, Jeremiah Wosu Coromo, and

572
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Speaker 2: Garrett hmm. Also consider Denzel Ward, Marie Cooper, Nick Chubb.

573
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 3: It's none of the alignment anymore.

574
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Speaker 2: Zadarius Smith did nothing last year. Nick Chubb is hurt.

575
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Speaker 3: Right, Cooper is what he is. It's a good player. Yeah, yeah,

576
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 3: I mean.

577
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Speaker 2: And it's not there. It's not the quarterback that you're

578
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,479
Speaker 2: paying sixty dollars.

579
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 3: That's a problem.

580
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 2: Uh. For the Cowboys, Michael Parsons, Ceedee Lamb, Dak Prescott.

581
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 3: Pay like that's a wonderful problem. I mean, that's exactly

582
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 3: what you want. But we got pay all those dudes,

583
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 3: right yeah.

584
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 2: For the Broncos, Patrick certain Quinn, Miners, Courtland Sutton.

585
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 3: Sutton shouldn't be your third best player, no, I mean

586
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 3: Miners is turning into a really good player, and certain

587
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 3: is a.

588
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 2: Star, but a wide receiver, he is not top one

589
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 2: thousand yards in his career.

590
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 3: Is like, hey, when he was in the top thirty

591
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 3: two wide receiver conversation and we didn't feel like he

592
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 3: was admitted. No, he's not bad, but I mean it's

593
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 3: he shouldn't be your third best player.

594
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 2: For the Lions, a'mon Ross, Saint Brown, Aiden Hutchinson, Penay Sewell.

595
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 3: I think they're my picks. I mean they got a

596
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 3: lot of candidates.

597
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, the guys you just missed for Goff,

598
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: Frank Ragnow, Allen McNeil. I can make an argument that ragnow.

599
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 3: Now is pretty strong.

600
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's probably now the best center in the league.

601
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say right there for sure.

602
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

603
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 3: DJ reiders on that team now, Yeah, that's a pretty

604
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 3: good roster.

605
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 4: Yeah.

606
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 2: For the Packers, Jay r, Alexander Rashawn, Gary, Jordan Love.

607
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 3: I'm a believer in Love. I think he'll stay there.

608
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 3: Defensive schemes change should help Gary, Alexander's been a little

609
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 3: hit and miss. Yeah, my bat group though, I mean

610
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: they got a lot of young candidates that could step.

611
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: Up for Houston. C J. Stroud, Nico Collins, Will Anderson.

612
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 3: Perfect got nice. Yeah, all homegrown young talent you plan

613
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 3: on paying.

614
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 4: And yeah for.

615
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 2: The Colts, Michael Pittman, DeForest Buckner, Quenton.

616
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 3: Nelson, I think it'd be my three picks.

617
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, also considered, we're Jonathan Taylor, Kenny Moore, Bernard Raymond.

618
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 3: I was thinking about Taylor. Taylor's pretty good, but season

619
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 3: wasn't great.

620
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: Jacksonville, you're looking at Josh Allen, Travis atn Trevor Lawrence.

621
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 2: That's a problem for them if one of your top

622
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: three players. Yeah, and we just talked about that in

623
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: the previous hour. I don't love him.

624
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 3: And even Allen if he's your best player, yeah, I

625
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 3: mean like he's going on well, I mean he's you know,

626
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,719
Speaker 3: they paid him for franchised him. He's been a good story.

627
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 3: He was a super high pick. He's a hit, but

628
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: he's not challenging Max Crosby. No, he's not.

629
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: He's not in t J. Watts ranging. He's probably eighth.

630
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 2: He's like yeah you know Alex high.

631
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 3: Smith ring Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's not great.

632
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: Uh. For Kansas City, Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, Chris Jones.

633
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 2: Their problem is eight season twelve season.

634
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 3: Ninth season, That's who's next.

635
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also considered Trump McDuffie and Creed Humphrey.

636
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 3: I mean that those two are promising, Yeah, but cracking

637
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 3: that threesomes?

638
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck for that. Right for the Raiders, DeVante Adams,

639
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: Colton Miller, Max Crosby.

640
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 3: They Miller ahead of Crosby.

641
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: Well that any real?

642
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got no problem with that, yeah.

643
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: Also considered linebacker Malcolm Coonts really yeah yeah for the Chargers.

644
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 3: Not much to pick for him out of those three.

645
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 3: Justin should be in the mix.

646
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Justin Herbert or Shawn Slater, Khalil Mack.

647
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: For the Chargers had a really good year. I guess

648
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 3: I'm fine with that.

649
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, be nice.

650
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 3: I like Darwin James got back in that conversation.

651
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: Right for the Rams, Matthew Stafford, Pooka and the Kupa

652
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: Cooper Cup.

653
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Donald's not there, so yes, that's the answer.

654
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that shows you. I mean they got nothing

655
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: on defense, right, nothing.

656
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: That's kind of concentrated there. Kind of the same thing here,

657
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: much as Stafford and Cup have left for.

658
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: The Dolphins, Tyreek Hill, Jaylen Waddell to a tago Byloa, I.

659
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: Think i'd have like Javon Holland or Phillips, maybe even

660
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 3: Chubb or Armstead over to Yeah. I mean, I'm like,

661
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: you can't get bonus prizes just for a quarterback if

662
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 3: think he's your best player. I think he's one of

663
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 3: your best players.

664
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Speaker 2: For the Vikings, Justin Jefferson, T. J. Hawkinson, Christian darrisaw

665
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: pretty nice, Yeah, very nice.

666
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Speaker 3: They're not old either. The Patriot, it's this is not

667
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 3: gonna be good.

668
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: Matthew Judon, Kyle Duggard, Jabriel Peppers. Two of your guys

669
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: are safeties. Yeah, I think got a bar more on there.

670
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: Peppers isn't even.

671
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: Like he's like if we would do safety ranks.

672
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: On Whensay, I don't know if he makes a top

673
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: thirty two twenty.

674
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 3: Five right right, He's okay, He's not what he was

675
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 3: coming out of Michigan.

676
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: I also considered was Unaway New on a Way New

677
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: and Barmore I think or two that are Yeah, that

678
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: don't make most teams list, but we compete for theirs.

679
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: For the Saints, we have a bad roster. Chrystal Lave

680
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: the Mario Davis, Tyram Mathol. There's a problem with the

681
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: Saints Davis is in year thirteen and Mathow is in

682
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: year twelve.

683
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

684
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: I can't believe Matho was in year twelve.

685
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: That's crazy. I mean even like ram Checks probably in

686
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: the year eight or nine. Latimore is probably an eight

687
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 3: or nine. Yeah, it's not a quarterback. Camara is not

688
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: even considered.

689
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: Anymore, and he's making a ton of money.

690
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

691
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not a good roster construction.

692
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: For the Giants, Dexter Lawrence, Andrew tom Us, Brian Burns.

693
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: That's pretty nice. Yeah, maryell Lyman, you know, quality dudes

694
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: and neighbors or somebody like that could get involved.

695
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: For the Jets, Quentin Williams, Sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson Yeah, yeah. Uh,

696
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: the Eagles, and I don't think Rogers belongs to the list,

697
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: and those are your.

698
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: Studs, yeah, especially since he didn't play last Yeah.

699
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

700
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: For the Eagles, it's Jalen Hurts, Jalen Carter, A J. Brown, Yeah,

701
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: Lane Johnson and Jordan my Lot. It didn't make the.

702
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 3: List, right, I would have Lane Johnson on the list

703
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 3: over Jalen Carter. Yeah, and maybe even Hurts. Yeah, I

704
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: mean considering I don't care.

705
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: When you did the rankings, they're both top six tax

706
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: in the league.

707
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 4: League.

708
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, A J. Brown. I'm cool with Carter could be.

709
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he's there.

710
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: He really winded down as a season on a long uh.

711
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: For San Francisco, Trent Williams, Fred Warner, Nick.

712
00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 3: Bosa, McCaffrey doesn't make your list. That's pretty awesome. There's

713
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 3: some age, yeah, but that's pretty awesome. Yeah.

714
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: For the Seahawks, who was the one?

715
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean Williams is the number one.

716
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: Tackle, Warner's the number one, Bosa's.

717
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: Top three or four. Yeah, yeah, Jeffery's number one.

718
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, poor guy Metcalf, Geno Smith, Devin Witherspoon, No.

719
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 3: I don't love that. Yeah, I must say he's wrong.

720
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 3: But you need somebody to be better than that.

721
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Witherspoon making it making it here too.

722
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like putting Porter there, right, Porter made their Listen, Yeah,

723
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 3: who's the top? Have you got even like Brian Biron

724
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 3: Murphy or somebody.

725
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay is Tristram Morris, Antoine Winfield, Mike Evans.

726
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: I mean and all that. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Evans

727
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 3: is older, but the Titans is Jeffrey Simmons, DeAndre Hopkins

728
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: luxurious Snead Hopkins still belongs, but I only who had

729
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: replaced him with. Yeah, I think he's Him and Ridley

730
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: are about the same to me. Hopefully when the old

731
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: linemen and Latham or somebody like that can go and

732
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: get up there.

733
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: And for the commanders Terry McLaurin, Jonathan Allen, Frankie Louvu.

734
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: It's not great, no, I mean they're not bad players.

735
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: But surprisingly very few quarterbacks on that list. Yeah.

736
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: I would think a lot of teams. I mean then

737
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 3: some of them were a little pushed up the Geno's

738
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 3: I don't know two it would have made my top

739
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 3: three Rogers didn't. I mean, maybe there's fifteen quarterbacks listed.

740
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: I don't even think. I don't even think there were

741
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: that many. I think he's more like eight.

742
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: I think the Cousins made it, and Dad Herbert I

743
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: might even have hurt should have. Yeah, yeah, I mean

744
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: there's yeah, it's not that's okay, though, I mean I

745
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 3: give them credit because it's easier just to shove the

746
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: quarterback in there. But if he's not one of the

747
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 3: best three at what he does right, one of the

748
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 3: about value put the guard in.

749
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: Like I don't know at any time though in his career,

750
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: well maybe they were, they were towards the end was

751
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: Ben Roethlisberger was not one of the top three for

752
00:33:59,240 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: the Steelers.

753
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: I've been ninety percent of his seasons. Yeah, maybe not

754
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: rookie year and maybe not final year. Yeah, but other

755
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: than that yeah, oh yeah, I mean, and that's probably

756
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: true for every quarterback in the Hall of Fame. Yeah,

757
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: give or take, but that's what you want.

758
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: But you know, at the same time, the Steelers had

759
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 2: the same those the threesome that we're on the Steelers list,

760
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 2: we're all on some of those teams with Ben Roethlisberger.

761
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 3: Hmm. Yeah. It kind of reminds you the Chiefs a

762
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: little bit, you know. Yeah, cracking the top three is

763
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 3: not easier these teams.

764
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. First, absolutely, let's get to another break. He is

765
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to

766
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 2: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back

767
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: to finish up the show right after this.

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769
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,279
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Speaker 2: and I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the drive

779
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Speaker 2: here on Steelers Nation Radio, and Matt, there's a a

780
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: we're now in this summer, Yeah, June. We're in June.

781
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: That means right around the corner is the release and

782
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: all that and the release of uh, the latest Madden game. Now,

783
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: I used to play that a lot when younger.

784
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 3: No, it might shock never did, I can't remember, so I.

785
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: I think, Uh I can I go back to, you know,

786
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: when it was still like Joe Montana football and back

787
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: and the old Sega Genesis and even before that when

788
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: it was you know.

789
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 3: These before Madden. Yeah, I mean, so just a pair

790
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 3: of I mean only if you've be and I've ever

791
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: had video game conversations. I played a little like EA

792
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 3: hockey in in did you p j Ye? And that's

793
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 3: about it. I mean, that's like the last time I

794
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 3: picked up like a joysticker ader.

795
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: I then I go back to the old tech mobile

796
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 2: and things of that nature. But you know that was

797
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 2: that was my wheelhouse.

798
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 3: It was never my bag and my buddies we playing

799
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 3: and I'd be in the corner do something else or whatever.

800
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I get it. I mean part of me

801
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: was like, I don't want to start because I might

802
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: never put.

803
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 2: It that well, that was part of the problem.

804
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 3: I could imagine. Madden makes all the sense in the world,

805
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 3: like my son loves team building and takes after his

806
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: dad a little bit that way.

807
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: So last year I believe it was Josh Allen was

808
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: the cover boy. Yeah, the NFL NFL dot Com here

809
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: is who will grace the cover of Madden NFL twenty five?

810
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: Who would be your top candidates to be because you

811
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: want a star player?

812
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 3: I mean, Mahomes is too easy, I assume, And has

813
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: he been on it?

814
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: I believe, yeah he has.

815
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: I assume you don't want doubles.

816
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 2: Probably not, so T J. Watt has been on I believe.

817
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: So Anyways, it's been a while since I bought the game.

818
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 3: I know nothing. Yeah, I'm doing my best here.

819
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: People are their tough content.

820
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 3: Okay, great c J.

821
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: Stroud, that's a good one.

822
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 3: I mean, young up and comer. I would think is

823
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 3: on a team that should win a lot of games.

824
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: You know, a year ago they looked like a down

825
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 3: Trott and organization, big city, you know, Okay.

826
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey, it's boring, Yeah, Justin Jefferson, the aforementioned.

827
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 3: It's fair. Yeah, we've talked about him a lot today.

828
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 3: That's very fair.

829
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: Here's the interesting one here.

830
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: So it's rarely a defensive.

831
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: A tip of the cap to a future Hall of

832
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 2: Famer Aaron Donald.

833
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: I guess no rules on the Donald is certainly worthy

834
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: of the Lifetime Achievement Award.

835
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 2: And his kickoffs are back option on NFL dot Com.

836
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 4: This is.

837
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: Bob Quintonic, one of their digital people. Justin Tucker. Since

838
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 2: kickoffs are now going to be back in vogue, I don't.

839
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 4: Think that helps yourself.

840
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 3: Is your marketing department to.

841
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 4: Be cool with that?

842
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 3: You know me? I mean I think he's a surefire

843
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 3: Hall of famer. I think he's changed tons, but you

844
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 3: can't put him on the cover right, yeah, I mean

845
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 3: speaking of hated rivals, though, what about Miles Garrett?

846
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: I mean, if TJ has already been on, he did

847
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: just win Defensive Player of the Year, I think he's

848
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: been let me look it up while we're talking about here.

849
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: I'm sure you can just look at former. Yeah, that

850
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 3: curse thing is gone, right, Yeah, that's no longer. Okay,

851
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 3: that only happened a couple years in a row. I mean,

852
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: wasn't there a Sports Illustrated curse too or something?

853
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: Okay, So twenty twenty two was John Madden. That was

854
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 2: from yeah, the anniversary. Yeah, So twenty one was Patrick

855
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: Mahomes and Tom Brady not bad. Twenty twenty twenty was

856
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson.

857
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: That was him coming off his I guess TJ.

858
00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: Watt hasn't been on, that hasn't it.

859
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 3: So what right, he's probably never been a Steeler then.

860
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: No, there has been because Antonio Brown was definitely on.

861
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: That wasn't eighteen. Yeah, Patrick Mahomes in nineteen, Antonio Brown

862
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: in eighteen. Tom Brady was the twenty seventeen cover boy.

863
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 3: So those both had one and a half visits for

864
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 3: those two, Yeah, run together.

865
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: Then you're looking at Seventeen was Rob Gronkowski.

866
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 3: He's popular, dude. I mean he wasn't on commercials then

867
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 3: like he is now, but I get it.

868
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: Sixteen was Odell Beckham.

869
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: He was a star early in his career New York.

870
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 2: Fifteen was Richard Sherman.

871
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 3: Seems like a bit of a reach, but I mean

872
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 3: he was a big guy.

873
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 2: Fourteen was a throwback Barry Sanders and Adrian Peterson.

874
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 3: The throwback. It would be kind of interesting that was like.

875
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: Their twenty five by a year anniversary.

876
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, it's not like they're to put Larry Allen on,

877
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 3: but I mean, but kind of like the Donald call.

878
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: Madden two thirteen was Calvin Johnson.

879
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean this has been out for twenty some years, right, yeah, okay, yeah.

880
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: This is the one that Madden twenty twelve was Peyton Hills.

881
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 3: Oh I remember Hillis, right, Yeah, Peyton hillis full back.

882
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 3: Wasn't even like the best player on his team, no.

883
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: Right, I mean he was okay, bad Browns teams? Yeah,

884
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 2: come on.

885
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: I remember he had a splash season or two. But

886
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 3: he was in that same backfield with McFadden and Felix

887
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 3: Jones at Arkansas. So he didn't get the ball ever,

888
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: and got a better NFL career than that, But that's

889
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:33,959
Speaker 3: a reach.

890
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how they how they came to

891
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: fall in that one. Madden eleven was Drew Brees, Sure,

892
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: Madden ten was Troy Paulamalo and Larry Fitzgerald.

893
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: Oh nice, too close to home.

894
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 2: Madden O nine was Brett Favre Wow.

895
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 3: Okay, so Ben never made it.

896
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: No, Madden O eight was Vince Young Ouch.

897
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 3: I mean it's pretty easy to hit on these.

898
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got the entire Yeah, Madden O seven was

899
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: Sewn Alexander that was coming off of the six.

900
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 3: You remember this, but I'm sure some of our listeners don't.

901
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 3: I mean, like he was first picking the fantasy league

902
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 3: for three or four years in a row. I mean

903
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 3: like him an lt. I mean a couple of those guys.

904
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 2: Madden O six was Donovan McNabb.

905
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: Not the best quarterback they've mentioned yet, but it's not

906
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: too bad.

907
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: Madden O five was Ray Lewis Popular.

908
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense.

909
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 2: Madden O four this might have been the last one

910
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: that I had. Mike Vick.

911
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: He deserves it. Yeah, he was a phenom the first

912
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 3: couple of years Madden O.

913
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: Three was Marshall.

914
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: Falk, another first pick in your fantasy draft for a

915
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 3: couple of years.

916
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: Madden O. Two was Dante Culpeper.

917
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 3: The world hadn't seen a lot of mcnabs and Culpepper's

918
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 3: back then, right, I mean they were big, strong, fast,

919
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: and so they were noteworthy.

920
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 2: Madden one was Eddie George maybe was.

921
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 3: Right there with Jerome for a lot of years as

922
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: best power back in the league.

923
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 2: That's how That's how far back this list goes from me.

924
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 3: But there's tons of candidates now. So the so Troy

925
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 3: was on there and A B were on there.

926
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: Troy and a B were the Steelers.

927
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 3: Steelers. Yeah, I'm sure a lot of teams don't have any.

928
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we just rolled through, right, you know.

929
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 3: To me, I mean just spitting those off the top

930
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 3: of your head, is the America's team had any? I

931
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 3: don't think. I don't think you put dak on there.

932
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 3: Maybe Michael Parsons, but you would think a popular team

933
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 3: like Dallas would have would be represented. I think if

934
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 3: any Cowboys that comes to.

935
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: Mind, how about how about a T. J. Watt slash

936
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett Comfort.

937
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 3: That'd be kind of fun. I mean, rivals and both

938
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: are deserving and down all time great type pass. Yeah,

939
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 3: that's not bad. If you're gonna go defense, I think

940
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 3: that would be my defensive calls. Or Donald McDonald should

941
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 3: have been on there at some point problemly.

942
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Donald be strong. But you know, if

943
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: you're if you're telling me to pick the top two

944
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: defensive you know two of the top defensive you're talking

945
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: about the last two defensive players of a year.

946
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah in the division. Yeah, that's a good one. Sports.

947
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 3: Do you any idea like when this comes stuff comes out?

948
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: I mean, the game itself comes out, I think in

949
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: late July early August, so that's.

950
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 3: When a little before that people know the cover.

951
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 4: Boy.

952
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, I have no clue on this topic. But

953
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 3: when do the ranking or the ratings come out, those

954
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: come out?

955
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 2: They do it absolutely, Yeah, absolutely. I want to say

956
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: those are always out right a on training camp too.

957
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 2: They started training camp so.

958
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: You don't have to get the game to know the

959
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: right ratings. Yet they start leaking.

960
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Steelers have some inside information on that to them. Yeah,

961
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: because James Daniel's brother works on the game. He works

962
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 2: for a sports and he helps. Because I know I

963
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 2: did the story on James games last off. Yeah, talk

964
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: to yeah, talk to some of the family members. And

965
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Speaker 2: I asked James, I'm like, right, I talked to his brother.

966
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: I believe his dad. I think I definitely talked to

967
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: his dad.

968
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: I know you definitely talked to his dad, but I

969
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 3: think I talked to.

970
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: James about it. I'm like, you, guys, you know that

971
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: they once they find out that your brother works on

972
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Speaker 2: the game, do they like start lobbying you, like, hey,

973
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 2: give me a little.

974
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 3: More text to bump me up two spots or whatever.

975
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 3: I know they take that very seriously.

976
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

977
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Speaker 3: I mean I don't compare it to their contracts because

978
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 3: I mean that pays the bills.

979
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: But everybody wants to be a ninety nine and everything.

980
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 4: Yeah.

981
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, how could you have me as a twenty

982
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: third ranked receiver? You know, got twelve hundred yards last year? Yeah,

983
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: that's competitive human beings.

984
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: I would take there were some you could like play

985
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: GM on these games a little bit too. That would

986
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 2: be right up your alley.

987
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 3: That's what my son loves.

988
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 2: You never stopped.

989
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he loves I think with franchise mode or whatever,

990
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: and you could go into the all time greats I mean,

991
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 3: it blows me away when I walk do.

992
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: The draft every year, when you do a franchise, it's cool. Yeah,

993
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: it's cool, absolutely, Matt. That's going to do for the

994
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Speaker 2: show today. All Right, we will be back, as I

995
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Speaker 2: mentioned to show Monday Wednesday Friday. This week. We'll get

996
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Speaker 2: into our Monday Wednesday Friday schedule here on a regular basis.

997
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: But Steeler's back at it on the football field tomorrow

998
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Speaker 2: for their OTA sessions against the OTA's Tuesday, Wednesday Thursday.

999
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Speaker 2: This week we're getting.

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Speaker 3: Close to and they vanished for a while, right, well, we're.

1001
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Speaker 2: Getting close to the mandatory mini camp here.

1002
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Speaker 3: I don't when's that off top of your head?

1003
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: You know, I believe it's next week.

1004
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: Okay, I was screwed up.

1005
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Speaker 2: Not next week, it's a week after one of these

1006
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Speaker 2: weeks they have the four day uh coming OTA session

1007
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:35,959
Speaker 2: and then I've been out.

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Speaker 3: Of the loop level and that's we all have all

1009
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Speaker 3: that information.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just show up and when they told me

1011
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: to show up, I have all that information somewhere. Anyways,

1012
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Speaker 2: that's gonna do it for the show today. So for

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Speaker 2: my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here on site,

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Speaker 2: keeping us on the air. I'm Dale Lollie. We appreciate

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Speaker 2: you listening to this edition of the Drive on Steelers

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