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Speaker 1: This is a Drive to the Draft podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome on in. We've got a Shrine Bowl preview today.

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Speaker 2: Why is the Shrine Bowl important? We talked about in

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Speaker 2: the Fastest forty the draft is one or lost in

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Speaker 2: the middle rounds, question Mark. These are the guys. These

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Speaker 2: are the guys that are going to be in those

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Speaker 2: middle rounds. The proof of guys to show me guys.

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Speaker 2: It all starts right now.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Drive to the Draft Podcast. I am

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Speaker 3: just guy Jason. I'm here with ten year NFL veteran

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Speaker 3: Logan Paulson. You played tight end for ten years in

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Speaker 3: the NFL. Logan, a lot a lot of different coaches.

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Speaker 3: You were under right, you played with a lot of

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Speaker 3: different guys. The players you coach now a lot train

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Speaker 3: a lot of guys. You're just really deeply involved in

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Speaker 3: the NFL. You got a lot of connections. You're a

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Speaker 3: super smart guy.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you. That's very nice you to say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just got back from doing some stuff out

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Speaker 2: in California in terms of combine prep. Some of the

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Speaker 2: guys that are going to be at the Shrine Bowl

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Speaker 2: were there, so it's fun to talk to them and

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Speaker 2: kind of get to meet them first hand, so we'll

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Speaker 2: give you a little insight on that. But yeah, man,

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Speaker 2: it's NFL has been really good to me and my family,

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Speaker 2: and you know, it's awesome that this I get paid

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Speaker 2: to talk about the draft, which was a passion of

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Speaker 2: mine when I was growing up as a little kid.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, And the other thing I really want people

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Speaker 3: to know about with you is that you're really good

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Speaker 3: friends with me.

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Speaker 1: You're just good friends.

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Speaker 3: And I had a bit one here that I was

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Speaker 3: going to mention, but I'm going to change it up.

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Speaker 3: Before we even started this podcast, we talked about ten

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Speaker 3: minutes about a movie, just just arguing over the movie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's what friends. Did you get some great points? Man?

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Speaker 1: I really it was good good and you had okay

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Speaker 1: points to anyone listen. They would say that I was right,

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Speaker 1: you were right, You were right, for sure.

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Speaker 3: But you're always right about the NFL logan, especially the

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Speaker 3: draft process. You never get anything wrong here, and I

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Speaker 3: would say that I.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't be doing this if I didn't get anything wrong.

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Speaker 3: Jeez, man, Well no, I'm just kidding. Everybody knows that

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Speaker 3: the draft process is it's nebulous, a very nebulous, great

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Speaker 3: word for it. But before we get going. This is

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Speaker 3: going to be our last podcast for the Shrine Brawl practices,

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Speaker 3: which I want to say, We're gonna have a podcast

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Speaker 3: after every day of practice, and our first podcast is

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Speaker 3: a very special treat. We will be doing a live

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Speaker 3: podcast from Dallas in the Shrine Bowl after the first

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Speaker 3: day of practice. It will come out on Friday the

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Speaker 3: twenty third, I believe that's the date, Friday twenty third.

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Speaker 3: And what makes it even extra special is we'll have

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Speaker 3: the NFL Draft nerd Jeremy Green joining us as our

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Speaker 3: special guest for the whole thing and logan. We've had

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Speaker 3: a couple of fans already email us and leave a

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Speaker 3: comment saying when's.

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Green coming on? Yeah? Soon, very soon, and it

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Speaker 1: will be live. So if you're in Dallas, come out

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Speaker 1: and watch and Jeremy. This is just to know you.

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Speaker 2: For those of you aren't familiar Jeremy. He's really funny.

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Speaker 2: Where's he from?

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Speaker 1: Carolina?

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Speaker 2: South Carolina is from and he sent me his drafts

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Speaker 2: sheet already, you know people are on there.

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Speaker 1: I can I guess. Yes, he's a maniac. He's a maniac.

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Speaker 1: Already we either are, this.

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Speaker 3: he's at four.

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Speaker 1: Hundred, he's at five hundred right now, Okay, so he's

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Speaker 2: He sent me the thing because you know, we've we've

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Speaker 3: To have all the guys at the Shrine Bowl and

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe yeah, Like I'm trying to I'm trying

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Speaker 2: with updated grades. So if you want like the pinnacle

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Speaker 3: Well, the other thing about him that I want fans

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Speaker 3: to know, and you mentioned it, is he's funny. Right,

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Speaker 3: He's not a he calls himself to the NFL Draft nerd,

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Speaker 3: He's just he's got that party like. So he's very entertaining.

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Speaker 3: Listen to you and him get along really well when

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Speaker 3: it comes to he's saying, So make sure you check

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Speaker 3: it out. He's one of our favorite guests that come on,

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Speaker 3: and we'll be doing a live show with him down

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Speaker 2: I know'll probably on multiple times, but this is the

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft season than Jeremy.

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Speaker 3: So, speaking of the Shrine Bowl logan, we have the

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Speaker 3: Shrine Bowl coming up, then it's immediately followed by the

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Speaker 3: Senior Bowl. I think one of the things that we

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Speaker 3: is important. There are a lot of players that come in.

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Speaker 3: Did you know Tom Brady played in.

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Speaker 1: The Shrine Did not know that? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So you know the best quarterback ever was there at

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Speaker 3: one point. But let's get even more recent. Last year,

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Speaker 3: So there are players here at the Shrine Bowl, but

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Speaker 3: it is considered the lesser bowl for lack of a

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Speaker 3: the comparisons are to your Shrine Bowl and Senior Bowl?

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Speaker 3: What should fans expect from the Shrine Bowl versus Senior Bowl?

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Speaker 3: Just give me a little breakdown of these are the

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Speaker 1: Why is that? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So I think even just going through the prospects, like

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Speaker 2: But you're looking at guys that, I want to say,

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Speaker 2: So when you go to the Senior Bowl, it's easy

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Speaker 1: A way where it's like, what are the roles for

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Speaker 2: We're looking for starters, studs, impact players for our roster.

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Speaker 3: I think it goes really well with what you just

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Speaker 3: I think you're kind of looking, like you said, more

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Speaker 3: not that there isn't a diamond and a rough in there.

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Speaker 1: Of course, there will be there will be, yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: Generally what you're looking for as far as what the

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Speaker 3: the fastest forty question this week is the draft is

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Speaker 3: true or not.

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Speaker 2: So that is one thousand percent true in large part

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Speaker 2: because you just get more picks there.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: You get a third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round pick.

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Speaker 2: That's four guys right there that are going to provide

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Speaker 1: Like we just talked about.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's the special teams linebacker comes in in, you know,

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Speaker 2: And I think like that's the thing that differentiates those rounds.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And again, like that's to me why an event

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Speaker 2: Sean McVeigh told me this one time, there are four

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Speaker 2: not going to be these huge Neon night Light type names,

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Speaker 2: if you do a good job identifying what you need,

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Speaker 1: You can go shopping in this bin here for sure.

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Speaker 3: Talk about yourself a little bit when it comes to that.

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Speaker 3: You're you're undrafted free agent. Yep, right, So tell me

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Speaker 3: a little bit about what you offered, what you didn't

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Speaker 1: What got you there?

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Speaker 1: I didn't run very fast, I.

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Speaker 2: Didn't jump very high, my arms aren't very long, but

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Speaker 2: I could block a nine and I could do a

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Speaker 2: I think they said, like, we can develop that skill set.

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Speaker 2: We can develop this guy because we see a future,

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Speaker 2: we see a path for what he has. I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to try and make Logan Paulson you know, Jordan

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Speaker 2: make him an inline blocking y. They can do some

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Speaker 2: the outside zone game. And in some systems that's not

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Speaker 2: very valuable to what their offensive identity was. And I

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Speaker 2: think that's a great example of them kind of saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: come on here, we'll develop you, we'll teach you how

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Speaker 2: we want to do it. And like again, I was

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Speaker 1: But again, if I had gone in anywhere else, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Sure it would have worked out the way it did

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Speaker 2: for me because it was kind of the perfect environment

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Speaker 2: a decision that the personnel department makes, and again Mike

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Speaker 3: Well, let's find some guys in the shrine bowl here

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Speaker 3: We wish it for all these guys. So I have

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Speaker 3: two different categories here. I know it's a little nebulous, right,

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk through it.

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Speaker 1: Real quick.

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Speaker 3: I have a category of prove it, guys. That's what

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Speaker 3: we're going to talk about first, and then show me guys.

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Speaker 3: And you're like, isn't that kind of the same thing, right.

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Speaker 1: And it is.

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Speaker 3: But there's a nuance, all right, so prove it. What

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Speaker 3: I mean by that is we saw it on the tape,

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Speaker 3: Now come to the shrine bowl where you're against equal

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Speaker 3: think it's there right right, there's something on film that

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Speaker 3: I think I could squeeze this out of you. Maybe

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Speaker 3: And here, show me that you are coachable, that you

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Speaker 3: have this little untintangible thing that I can then use

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Speaker 3: the shrine bow, show me something that makes me intrigued

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Speaker 3: by you.

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Speaker 1: So that's the difference. Prove it.

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Speaker 3: You've done it before, Now do it at the next level,

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Speaker 3: right or at the next stage, and show me is

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Speaker 3: give me something that I want to grasp. One to

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Speaker 3: something with you makes sense, absolutely right, So it is

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Speaker 3: a nuance. But we're gonna start with the prove it guys. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you want to go first, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna start with Ethan Burke, who's an edge

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Speaker 2: from Texas. He's six', six he's probably he's listed it

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Speaker 2: to fifty eight to. Fifteen he looks like he might

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Speaker 2: be in that two sixty five two seventy. Range, Honestly

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Speaker 2: he's a, big long armed guy who plays really. Hard

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Speaker 2: he's maybe not the best, athlete like he's not super.

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Speaker 2: Twitchy but the thing THAT i love about him is

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Speaker 2: he uses his arms and his arm length really, really

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Speaker 2: really well and has a great feel for attacking. Shoulders

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Speaker 2: we talked about this With Keck Keldric fawk a little bit,

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Speaker 2: and so to me LIKE i think this dude. Again

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Speaker 2: we talked about finding a. ROLE i think this dude

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Speaker 2: Point he needs a little bit of time in the weight,

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Speaker 2: room needs to thicken up his lower. Half BUT i

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Speaker 2: want to. SEE i want to see if that play

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Speaker 2: strength is. Real like the GAME i watched was Against

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Speaker 2: TEXAS a AND, m and you know three of those

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Speaker 1: Bowl, also right or.

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Speaker 2: Well the right tackle is not going to be with

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Speaker 2: be out. There and he gave those guys absolute fits

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Speaker 2: with his. Power and we talk about the style of

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Speaker 2: rushers that are winning now, now like it's power rushers

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Speaker 2: that trust the, line that have a good technique and

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Speaker 2: understand how to compress the. Pocket AND i think this

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Speaker 2: no but could be A could he be a six

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Speaker 2: seven eight eight sack? GUY i think, absolutely with great

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Speaker 2: first and second down. Upside. Yeah AND i think when

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Speaker 2: we need great depth and we need to get that

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Speaker 2: of picks in the top one. Hundred, right we've GOT

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Speaker 2: i DON'T i think we have a, first a, third

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Speaker 2: this seems like a guy that you could get in

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Speaker 2: a bargain in a. SCENARIO i talked about building the

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Speaker 2: draft through that third, round AND i just want to make.

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Speaker 2: SURE i want him to prove it to me that

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Speaker 2: that WHAT i saw in film wasn't just a one.

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Speaker 2: Off he could do that versus some really solid offensive

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Speaker 3: Bowl, yeah he looks big and, long like you, said

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Speaker 3: when you look at, him he's going to have long,

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Speaker 3: arms so you can just see. It and he's six,' six.

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Speaker 3: Very strong the THING that i watched him right before we,

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Speaker 3: i noticed about HIM that i kind of liked is

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Speaker 3: make him for lack of a, better term like. Squeeze

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Speaker 3: through even though he may not have, super speed he's not.

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Speaker 3: SUPER fast i didn't think off, the ball he's a.

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Speaker 3: Little slow he's not the fastest, one there but the

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Speaker 3: HE remembered i also don't think he's the, most athletic

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Speaker 3: so that's why he's in this.

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Speaker 2: Later, Round YEAH and i think the thing about, him

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Speaker 2: a great like a really just a. Good FEEL and

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Speaker 2: i love that you mentioned the shoulder turnability, for him

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Speaker 2: because that's something. That pops he reminds me of like

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Speaker 2: a little Bit Of, jared allen, you know the guy

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Speaker 2: who used to Play in Minnesota In kansas city who

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Speaker 2: could just have this great not necessarily the fastest guy of,

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Speaker 2: really well he's much much Bigger than jared and obviously

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Speaker 2: YOU know i want to see that down At The,

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Speaker 2: senior bowl, and like if, IT'S real i think he's

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Speaker 2: hopefully doesn't play too WELL because i Think the commanders

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Speaker 2: would love to have a guy like that in a,

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Speaker 2: later round.

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Speaker 1: So then the. Prove it you want to see him do.

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Speaker 1: IT here i want to see him do.

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Speaker 2: It here, and ALSO like i want to know for

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Speaker 2: Sure what i'm seeing on, film, translates right because sometimes

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Speaker 2: you get these Guys Like landon jackson, last year who

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Speaker 2: narrow in the Base from arkansas, last year but six

435
00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,080
Speaker 2: six two. Seventy five and then when he got in the,

436
00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:35,880
Speaker 2: team drills it was a little he was a little,

437
00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,119
Speaker 2: off balance kind of getting thrown to the ground a.

438
00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,560
Speaker 2: Little bit, and again the power and the length that

439
00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,800
Speaker 2: you Saw at arkansas didn't necessarily translate To The. Senior

440
00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,200
Speaker 2: Bowl and i'm hoping that when We See ethan burke,

441
00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:53,000
Speaker 2: like that, the length, the strength and the movement torso

442
00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,840
Speaker 2: movement skill translate and that the leg strength or the

443
00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,720
Speaker 2: lack of leg strength isn't deleterious.

444
00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,679
Speaker 1: For him, All right we're to move on to the.

445
00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:01,040
Speaker 1: Next one.

446
00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,679
Speaker 3: All right my GUY that i really liked WATCHING that

447
00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,160
Speaker 3: i want him to show me With Is, dylan bell

448
00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,360
Speaker 3: the wide receiver Out. Of georgia he's six, to one

449
00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,480
Speaker 3: two TEN and i watched tape of Him against Kentucky And.

450
00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,920
Speaker 3: Old miss that was his best game ACCORDING, to pff

451
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,680
Speaker 3: and his. Worst game he has some drops and he

452
00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,800
Speaker 3: has some. INJURY concerns i don't know that he's super

453
00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:25,160
Speaker 3: physical without the, ball, right okay but excellent hands at

454
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,479
Speaker 3: times he, has drops but other times he just seems

455
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 3: to snatch, the BALL and i want him to just

456
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,000
Speaker 3: balance out. Those drops but his, CATCH radius, i guess

457
00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,600
Speaker 3: Is what, i'm saying is. Really good he plays big

458
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,320
Speaker 3: even though he's not, super big that. Makes sense he

459
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,400
Speaker 3: plays one right, decent size sinks his hips, really well

460
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 3: nice footwork. And releases he's got, nice speed and he's

461
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,400
Speaker 3: got a route tree SOMETHING that i Basically what. I'm

462
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,159
Speaker 3: saying he has. Nice versatility he was in, the slot

463
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 3: he was IN, the x they ran him.

464
00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 1: ON sweeps I just.

465
00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,320
Speaker 3: I think he might be the, to me one of

466
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 3: the most exciting receivers Of The shrine bowl that's. In

467
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 3: there so Show me i'm not, wrong, here, right like

468
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,199
Speaker 3: be the best guy At The. Trine BOWL and i

469
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 3: think maybe there's a hidden gem in.

470
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 1: Here.

471
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,159
Speaker 2: Somewhere YEAH and i think a lot of stuff you

472
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 2: talked ABOUT there i think is really important, and again

473
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 2: what you just said, ABOUT him i think illuminates kind

474
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 2: of the rest of the receivers in. This, group right

475
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 2: there's a bunch, of guys, You Know aaron ANDERSON, From

476
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 2: Lsu baron Brown from kentucky that are kind of these

477
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 2: slash hybrid return. Gadget guys and so you're kind of

478
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 2: going through all, These guys, you're like maybe this guy's a.

479
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 2: Return specialists maybe this guy moves to. Running back it's

480
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 2: not like super clean receiver. Skill set and then all

481
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 2: of a sudden you Get To dylan bell and, You're,

482
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,120
Speaker 2: like oh this guy runs a. Nice comeback he's got

483
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 2: great footwork on, the dig little, stems nice, you know

484
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 2: and is?

485
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 1: It?

486
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 2: Perfect no but does HE do i see a guy

487
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 2: whose skill set translate to playing professional wide receiver IN.

488
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 1: The.

489
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,439
Speaker 2: Nfl absolutely and so you mentioned that you thought he

490
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 2: was maybe the best. GUY here i was really high

491
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 2: into sewn Shribbling From old miss and he's a GUY

492
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 2: that i was able to MEET when i was Out.

493
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 2: In california Who was i'm, Not Kidding jason literally the

494
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,360
Speaker 2: best guy on, the board like installing Plays that i've

495
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 2: ever seen at the words. Receiver position he's. Six too

496
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 2: he's two hundred and. Ten pounds he's got this verticality.

497
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 2: To him, you're, like, oh man that'd, be great but

498
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 2: he's an old miss and, he's, like man it's. TOO

499
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 2: close i can't Make The. Shrine bowl so, you're, like.

500
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 2: Okay bummer and so when you start taking out some

501
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 2: of these guys from these, bigger schools, Like again george's

502
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 2: not a. Small School But dylan bell is a GUY that,

503
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 2: i think all of a sudden moves to the forefront

504
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 2: of this group in a way where, you're, like shoot

505
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 2: like if we're looking for wide receiver depth in, later

506
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 2: rounds and like kind of reminded me a little bit Of,

507
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 2: like zakias a guy that's just a guy that's. Just

508
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 2: good like maybe not the, fastest guy maybe not the,

509
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 2: biggest guy but he's got a little some nice physicality,

510
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 2: to him and he runs good routes and he knows

511
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 2: how to get open and when you look at the

512
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 2: skill sets people WANT for, NFL receiver i think he.

513
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 2: Fits that so, TO me i want to see him

514
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 2: be just a touch, more physical like in one, on

515
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 2: ones like let's be a little bit more physical and

516
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 2: in the, run game like how urgent can we be

517
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 2: but a guy that in the sea of kind of tweener.

518
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 2: Return specialists there's a couple guys that were we're not

519
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: gonna talk, About me we'll talk about them. Next week

520
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 2: but his kind of Part. FROM georgia i also thought

521
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 2: it was. Really interesting what's?

522
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 1: His name do you remember?

523
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 3: His?

524
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 2: Name jason i'll look, it, up yes but like six four,

525
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 2: Two Fifteen, Colby, Young Yeah, colby young but big time.

526
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 2: Injury history there there's a couple guys where, you're like

527
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 2: you've got a little of the of the probably twelve

528
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 2: receivers At The, shrine bowl there's probably three, Of them

529
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 2: i'd say that are going to be have.

530
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 1: This potential and it's cool that You Highlighted dylan.

531
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 3: Bell, HERE yeah, I mean i the biggest Thing that

532
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 3: i'll be most excited about, with him don't drop?

533
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: The ball catch?

534
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 2: The, ball well, you know it's not like he do

535
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 2: what you do and then. Don't catch it's not like

536
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 2: he has, bad hands though. It's weird it's.

537
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 3: Interesting exactly, He DOESN'T so i don't know why he

538
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 3: has so. Many, drops, yeah honestly do you have, a,

539
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 3: DROP right, I mean i'll look. It UP but i

540
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 3: saw it on the. Film too, it's like here's a nicely,

541
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 3: thrown ball easily. Catchable, dropped yeah and, it's like but

542
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 3: then you'll go make a big highlight play, and LIKE

543
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 3: so i know you can do, It right just maybe

544
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 3: it's a lack.

545
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: OF focus i.

546
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 3: Don't, know, YEAH right i don't want, to speculate, but

547
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 3: yeah just be a little more. SURE handed i think

548
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 3: he's got all. The tools and then be physical without, the, Ball, RIGHT.

549
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: Yeah i think. THAT'S great i think got these. Two

550
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: things and, It's, like okay. LET'S roll i.

551
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: Think he's a great guy To, highlight, jason honestly so

552
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: move on the next.

553
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: Guy.

554
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 2: Here yeah so the next guy that has got to

555
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 2: prove it to me Is and i'm curious to see

556
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 2: if he actually GOES because i Just Mentioned deshaun stribling

557
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 2: is not going To The shrine bowl because they just

558
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 2: finished playing Football From.

559
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: Old miss but. Diego pounds he's.

560
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: A senior he's the left Tackle For, old miss and he's,

561
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 2: six six three.

562
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: Thirty five looks like he's about.

563
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 2: Three Forty, but, jason like it's so funny going through

564
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 2: these offensive in.

565
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: Your linemen, you're like can this guy.

566
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 2: DO it i, don't know, practice squad maybe, swing tackle, swing,

567
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 2: guard interior and, you're like this guy can like move

568
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: around a, little bit and. He's big AND so i

569
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 2: Watched the miami game that they that they, got eliminated

570
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: eliminated them from, the playoffs and he's going Up against

571
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 2: Bain And akima mezzador And like bain is so sneaky

572
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: and good with. His hands he kind of made him

573
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 2: look silly a couple. Of times but his ability to

574
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: sit power and get depth on, his kickslide and the

575
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: strength that he had in, his body like you feel

576
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: THAT three p forty while also having good. Knee BEND

577
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 2: like i left Watching that miami tape and which wasn't

578
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 2: perfect film by any stretching, the imagination looking at, his

579
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: frame looking at, his length, being like this dude might

580
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 2: be a top ten tackle in. This draft that's HOW

581
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 2: good i thought. He was now who knows if he

582
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 2: ends Up going.

583
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 1: So why is he At The shrine? Bowl then so

584
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: there's got to be a?

585
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 2: Red, flag, Yeah yeah SO what i think it, is,

586
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: IS honestly I don't i, don't.

587
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: KNOW man i think he's a good.

588
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 2: FOOTBALL player i think he's a good, Football player like

589
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 2: there's another guy later we're going to talk about where

590
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: he has an interesting story about how he got To

591
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: The shrine bowl In. From texas, TO me i just want.

592
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 2: TO know i want to see so like you See

593
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 2: these he's a, big guy he's six six three, thirty

594
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: five he, moves well there's a little bit of inconsistency to,

595
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 2: His GAME like i just want to see him, in

596
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: person like he reminds me a little bit Of Like

597
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 2: jalen travis from, last year like is he a? Perfect,

598
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: athlete no but, the size. THE length i want to

599
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 2: see those measurements come to life in real time and,

600
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: living color and how he goes up against some of

601
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 2: these d RUSHERS because i think he could. Be special

602
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 2: AND again i think if you ask me what, the

603
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 2: thing what the main Issue, WAS jason i think it's probably,

604
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: The consistency like he's a little inconsistent for. My liking

605
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 2: but in terms of, bend, angles punch ability to sit

606
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,239
Speaker 2: a bull strength like he's. Got it and the other

607
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 2: thing too is that old miss offense is a little

608
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 2: bit weird in terms of run game for. Those GUYS

609
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: so i just want to see him in PERSON because

610
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: i think he could be.

611
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 3: Pretty special and with guys like, offensive line you expect

612
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 3: them to grow into, certain, Things, right like they're not

613
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 3: going to be a polished product. Right out would you

614
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 3: say that that's one of the positions that you expect

615
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: the most growth, Out of like it's hard to come

616
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 3: INTO the nfl as an offensive lineman and just be.

617
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: That, dude right it's a. Developmental. Position mostly it's a developmental.

618
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: Position MOSTLY like i was talking to an agent recently

619
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: and he, was like, YOU know i actually when you

620
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 2: think about, offensive lineman it's not, year one it's year,

621
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 2: two three, because again it's.

622
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: So technical the rushers.

623
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 2: Are so, Much, better like the offenses are so much

624
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: more complicated in terms of protection and, run scheme and

625
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 2: the technicality needs to go through. The roof but here's

626
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: a guy who's, a SENIOR and i think he's, pretty

627
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 2: technical again in terms of like. Body positions so like

628
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 2: there's certain times you watch an offensive of your lineman, you're,

629
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: LIKE man i don't know if you can physically. Do

630
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 2: IT like i mentioned the TACKLE from A and m

631
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: earlier who will not be At The, shrine Bowl but Demetrius,

632
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 2: crown over that's a hell of, a name. Isn't it

633
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 2: but he's, he's, big right he's, six seven, three thirty

634
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 2: but he can't. Really bend he's, Really tall like he'll

635
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: get drafted and play for a long time as a.

636
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: Swing player but, This Guy, DIEGO pounds i think has

637
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: some of that. Natural bend it's just like you're looking for,

638
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: traits right kind of in the same way we're looking

639
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 2: At With. ETHAN burke i think this guy's. Got it so,

640
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: FOR me i want to know if this is fool's

641
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: gold or if this is a. Real deal So if

642
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: i'm saying, prove it, it's like prove to me THAT

643
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 2: what i saw is not a one off in terms

644
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: of movement skill and.

645
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 3: Movement, characteristic yeah he played one and seventy six snaps

646
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: at left tackle, this year zero.

647
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: Sacks allowed it's a lot of that's a lot, of snaps.

648
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 3: A lot of snaps without. A sack now three, quarterback hits,

649
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: thirteen hurries but that's pretty. Low, percentage yeah it's. Pretty

650
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 3: DOMINANT and i.

651
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: Think the thing about it is LIKE when i watch

652
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: him again In that, miami game the way he's able

653
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: to eat some of, the power Like watching bain just

654
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 2: rip someone's face off and, you're like can anyone?

655
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: Stop this and?

656
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: This guy, You know i'm not saying it was a,

657
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 2: perfect game but able to stop some of those big

658
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: power rushers is.

659
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 3: Very Encouraging, All right we're moving on to ME and

660
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 3: i have another guy that is in. These playoffs he's

661
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 3: currently still, in IT so i doubt he's actually good

662
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 3: At The shrine, bowl NOW but I just i still

663
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: want to, highlight him And that's room and him be

664
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: one of the running Backs. For indiana he's six foot

665
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 3: twoh eight AND he's I don't i don't know what

666
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 3: you would. Call him maybe they're change of, pace back

667
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: but they seem to switch out between Him and black. And,

668
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 3: uh anyway, all right HERE'S what.

669
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: I said i.

670
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 3: LIKE him i think he has great burst and elite top,

671
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 3: end speed short area, of quickness like these are all

672
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: the things. You want and, running back especially in the later,

673
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 3: LATER rounds i would say he's like consistently whips one pass,

674
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: pro consistently which is. A problem, SO like i don't

675
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 3: know if he wants to like mix in. Or not

676
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 3: but In The Big ten, championship GAME which i went back,

677
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: and watched he was getting after it in. Pass PRO

678
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 3: so i almost wonder if it was a mentality, thing,

679
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 3: Like hey i'm on a big Stage now i'm gonna get,

680
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 3: After RIGHT like i, don't KNOW but i like that

681
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 3: he showed that he can. Do it so THAT'S what

682
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: i want to see from prove it with him because

683
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 3: the OTHER stuff i kind, of. LOVE right i love

684
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 3: that he has, GOOD vision i love his, Contact balance

685
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 3: like there's a lot to love about him as just

686
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 3: a pure running, back here great, hands too like almost

687
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: think of Like A. Trayvon, henderson. Ish don't i'm not

688
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: saying he's as explosive or like that level, of talent

689
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 3: but utilized in that way in. This offense, and yeah

690
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 3: it's really the pass pro stuff because it was so

691
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: bad and then now he's starting to. Show it so

692
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 3: maybe it's not At The, shrine ball maybe it's In The.

693
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: National championship but if you prove it to me that

694
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: you have the pass pro, BLOCKING mentality i think you

695
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: got enough traits here that you're going to be a,

696
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: nice little nice little hit here in the third the.

697
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: Later, rounds yeah and he reminds me a little Bit Of. Isaiah, pacheck,

698
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: oh honestly that's actually a great commercy because he runs,

699
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: so hard, you know like he's so physically, so downhill

700
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: like he's run through. PEOPLE'S faces i, YOU know i

701
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: have a little bit of, a question like about his

702
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: top end speed AT the. Nfl level he has a

703
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: long Run against perdue. THIS year i think it was

704
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: eighty two yards something like that where it. Gets OUT

705
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: but i wonder about the team Speed, of purdue. For

706
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: EXAMPLE so, i, think.

707
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: Well that's interesting because anyana like likes to put him,

708
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: in space so they must think he's.

709
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: Got too So what i'm, SAYING is i don't think

710
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: he's a bad. SPACE player i think he catches. FOOTBALL

711
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: well i think he's got a little bit of wiggle.

712
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: TO him i think he's good at that stuff, in

713
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 2: COLLEGE and i wonder how that's going to translate. To

714
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: level so when you put him, ON here i actually

715
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: thought you were going, to, say like prove to me

716
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 2: you're like a, plus athlete IS what i thought you're

717
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: going to. Say initially so, but AGAIN like i like,

718
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: the mentality like. The physicality he's not going to be

719
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: there because they're playing a. Football, team, yeah so BUT

720
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: but i think he's for a.

721
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: RUNNING back i.

722
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: Just, worry, so like this IS something i wanted to

723
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: ask YOU when i saw his name, on here was

724
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: like THE thing i think people are, moving toward moving

725
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: toward moving to with regards to. Running back is this

726
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: idea of like the, home run big play and.

727
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: Kind of this satellite.

728
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: Space player i'm NOT sure i see, that level, you

729
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: know like You Mentioned. TRAYVON henderson i don't see that level.

730
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: Of athlete he has some of those qualities, for sure

731
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: but like, TO me i se him as kind of

732
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: a role player at the, next level a physical downhill

733
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: maybe first second, ount.

734
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: Back and that's one hundred PERCENT what i see. HIM

735
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: as i want to just touch on something real quick for.

736
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: Our listeners when it comes, to, comps right comps are

737
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,959
Speaker 3: so hard, to make it really hard because people immediately

738
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 3: attach results AT the nfl level with. The person AND

739
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 3: when I Said, Travon henderson i'm not saying he's, that

740
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: Athlete and i'm not saying he's going to have. That

741
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 3: Success what i'm saying is that his usage in this

742
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 3: offense reminds Me Of Hout ohio state used Him Used,

743
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: Travon henderson so it's the same sort of Evaluation that

744
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: i'm looking. At, RIGHT no i don't Think He's, travon

745
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 3: HENDERSON but i do think that, watching him, It's, LIKE

746
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: okay i am watching this player in, this, role right

747
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 3: it looks the same to me in, that sense the

748
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: same way where you would compare him to, somebody else

749
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: maybe for body size or for, athletic ability like comps

750
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 3: are just. Really hard so, just understand we're not saying

751
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 3: they're going to have this. Person's career we're just trying

752
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 3: to give you a vision in, your head because this

753
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: is a podcast in this, audio form just a little

754
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: vision of maybe what. It, is yeah so think Of

755
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: How trevion anderson was Used in. Ohio state that's how

756
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: he's being Used. In, indiana yeah that's.

757
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: The COMPETENT and i made the comp with the checko

758
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: like different body, types obviously but in terms, OF mentality

759
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: i think that captures the.

760
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: Mentality, there yeah.

761
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely SO but i. Hear you we have a little

762
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: bit of a disagreement, with him.

763
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: But it's amazing what. It is.

764
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: To me IT'S like, i think when, you again when

765
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: you Watch, THEM indiana i think there's an explosive. PLAYMAKER

766
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: there i just wonder if that train like when he

767
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: runs at, the combine. FOR example i think that'll be

768
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: a big note for me Because LIKE i'm i do

769
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: this THING where i count strides per, five yards and

770
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: there's an old rule of rule of thumb where it's

771
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: like if it's, One stride so you're GETTING if i

772
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: if my foot leaves on the ten, YARD line i

773
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: have my right foot hits in between the ten and,

774
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: the five and then my left foot hit again on.

775
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: The five that is a guy who runs about a

776
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: four to, four usually and so he does not. Do

777
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: that when, he runs It's very he's got a very shot, like,

778
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: short choppy kind of. Connected, shride okay so THAT'S where

779
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: i wonder about the top end, speed again the short area,

780
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: stuff's good and THAT'S where i Made the. Checko comparison

781
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: so it'll be interesting to see how. He runs what

782
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: kind of athlete Actually Is.

783
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: John Harrow high school product just wanted to throw that

784
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: out with Local, Kid, maryland. Maryland right he Went to,

785
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: maryland first then transferred to.

786
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 3: Local kid so rooting. For him, all right do you

787
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 3: want to? MOVE on i have a. Note here did

788
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: you hit? That?

789
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: Note, no, yeah coss, all right so let's move to

790
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: the show.

791
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 3: Me, guys, YEAH yeah i like your show. Me, Guys

792
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 3: actually I'm gonna i'm gonna start here my show. ME

793
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: guys i want to pull. THEM up i like. GETTING there.

794
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 3: I don't you're a savant in the way that you

795
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: can memorize these guys heights, and WEIGHTS and i just can't.

796
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 3: Do that but so we're gonna Go with edge here

797
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 3: for Me From, CENTRAL.

798
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: FLORIDA ucf i got two. Guys here it's funny that

799
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: they're both of them same Screw.

800
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 3: Two, edge, Yeah Yeah malachi Lawrence And Naagic Najalik. Najalik

801
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 3: kelly We're gonna i'm gonna get that pronunciation by the

802
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: time this process.

803
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: Is done, but.

804
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, And uh lawrence is six four. Two fifty kelly

805
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 3: is six five. Two fifty so they're built about, the

806
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 3: same and so my evaluation on him is kind of

807
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 3: the same in. A, sense right they can kind of get, after,

808
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: it right but also there's a couple of things that

809
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 3: are just missing. With Them so i'm gonna Start with. Lawrence,

810
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: First okay so let me pull on. Over here lawrence

811
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 3: had seven, saxes HERE two, qb hits thirty, one hurries

812
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 3: and he has, to me really, good hands nice ben

813
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: fluid with, a motor gets lost in the. Run game

814
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 3: he gets pushed around, a lot doesn't have too much

815
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 3: power in the bowl to me and, to me he's

816
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 3: like he's like a wild wild, ball right like or a.

817
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 3: Wild bronco he's just bucking around out their, long arms

818
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 3: limbs waving all over. The place he kind of like

819
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: jump flat tackles if, you will like bell leave. A

820
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 3: sweet the technique just isn't There.

821
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: For.

822
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 3: LAWRENCE yep i would, say so like he's just. Missing

823
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 3: technique but he's got to build the size. The Motor

824
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 3: so i'm JUST what i want you to, show me

825
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 3: show me some technique because you got. Everything else if

826
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 3: you can show me that you can get better, With technique.

827
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm, in yeah that's that's it. For him what about

828
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,439
Speaker 1: let's talk about him For, A yeah i'll do. Naja

829
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: LEIKU so i have him as.

830
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 3: Long arms he actually fits his run gaps well and

831
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 3: then he also has, a motor, but slow. LAZY hands

832
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 3: i don't know about his strength bending not all, THAT

833
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: great i mean excellent in a, run gape, good, pursuved

834
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 3: tight can get. Eaten, up yeah when one on ONES

835
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: like i. THERE'S loopy i called him a little bit like.

836
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 3: Not deliberate, so again it's kind of, LIKE technique i

837
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 3: guess with, these guys but in. DIFFERENT ways i want

838
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 3: to see him. Tighten, up yeah you can do these

839
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: things like they.

840
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 2: Got something so, to me this Is the these two

841
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 2: guys are the perfect encapsulation Of The shrine bowl and

842
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: what we talked about at the start of. The show

843
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: and So what i'll say Is With, MALACHI lawrence i

844
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: agree with most of the things you, said, THERE right

845
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: i think he is a good a really good college.

846
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: Football player, he's physical he's got a. GOOD motor I

847
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: think i worry a little bit about his top ed

848
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: like the top. End athleticism but in the, college environment

849
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: you see a, good, ATHLETE right i see a guy

850
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: who's not super refined as a rusher in terms of angles,

851
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: he's taking he's taking, false steps he doesn't really have

852
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 2: a plan at the top of. The rush the Thing

853
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 2: about najalik is he has literally the body of a prototypical.

854
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: D rusher dude can scratch his knees standing straight, Up

855
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: right he's got. Long arms he's kind of like he

856
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: reminds me a little bit OF, like jpp this kind

857
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 2: of like, really long kind of languid loopy maybe is

858
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: the word you're going to.

859
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: Use there who has some twitch?

860
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 3: To?

861
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: Him RIGHT so i look at THIS and i say,

862
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: TO myself I Think malachi lawrence is kind of, maxed.

863
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 2: OUT right i think physically he's kind of where he

864
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: is in terms of, the athlete he's going to be

865
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 2: very similar to what he's going to be AS an.

866
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: Nfl pro like, you said he gets eaten up in the.

867
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: RUN game.

868
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: I agree i see that ALSO because i think he lacks,

869
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 2: traditional length but he's able to make up forward to

870
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: the college level because he just. Plays, Hard right as

871
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 2: a rusher lacks elite, first step is able to make

872
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: up for it because he just. Rushes hard he's going

873
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: to play some, bad. Tackles Right naja leak is maybe

874
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: not as productive as a, college player but has this

875
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: physical frame that, you say if you get him in

876
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 2: the right environment with the, right coach that could be

877
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: something that transcends just a first and second down player

878
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: into somebody that is a rotational started for. The team

879
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: so that's One where, i'm like this is to me

880
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: so interesting in terms of show, me right because, You,

881
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 2: know lawrence show me that you're a better athlete and

882
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: you can win versus aego pounds if he ends up showing,

883
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: up right show. ME that i don't think you can,

884
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: do it but if you can, do it. Great Job,

885
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: AND najaalique i expect to see, a long. Fluid athlete

886
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 2: can you?

887
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: Do that and how do you?

888
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: Take coaching, because again like there are some things to

889
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: your GAME that i think. Are encouraging but.

890
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: This is where.

891
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: It's all it's all projection with, these guys all what

892
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 2: we think they, can be what role they have at the.

893
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: Next level BECAUSE if I Think malachi lawrence can't be

894
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 2: a serviceable run player on first down because a lack,

895
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: of Length Obviously naja leak's gonna have a higher grade

896
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: for me in that, run environment even though in college

897
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: it's maybe not as Sharp.

898
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: As lawrence does that? MAKE sense i think that this

899
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: is a really good encapsulation of it makes.

900
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 3: COMPLETE sense, i mean this is why you're good. At

901
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 3: this that was a great job of concisely putting together

902
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 3: the difference in. THESE prospects, I mean i see it

903
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: just a little. Bit Different but i'm just, a, Guy

904
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: RIGHT but i think we're saying the same thing when

905
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 3: it comes to this show me with, these.

906
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: Guys like there needs to be they have to show

907
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 2: and this, is why like what is the what is

908
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 2: the role projection for both? These Players and i'm curious

909
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: to see what that role. Looks like and hopefully At

910
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 2: The senior bowl they can establish this IS what i

911
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: can do versus, better talent, more consistently and this IS

912
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: what i can do with. Better coaching because that's another

913
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 2: thing About these bowl games is you do get to be,

914
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: WITH coaches, nfl coaches oftentimes, developmental coaches guys that are

915
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: like assistants or gas that are trying to work up the.

916
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: Coaching ladder so with a little bit more consistent coaching

917
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: in an environment where that's the other thing is in

918
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: an environment where you're the? Next guy can we get the?

919
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: Next guy because he's, An edge let's. Do It So

920
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: Wesley wes williams is the Edge. From duke he's, sixty

921
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 2: three he's like two sixty five to seventy.

922
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: Sixty five how do you? MEMORIZE that i. Don't know

923
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: it just comes to me.

924
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: Just scrumber, body, types right and so he is like

925
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: a more of a, blocky build, long arms thick. LOWER

926
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: half i really like the way. HE plays i think he's.

927
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: PHYSICALLY violent i think he's a good against. The run

928
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 2: he reminds me of GUYS that i played against IN.

929
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: The nfl he only has, TWO sacks i believe in

930
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: terms of his Time, at duke but a football player

931
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: that has the requisite physical tools to be a good

932
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: first and second down defensive end at the. Next level

933
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: my show me is you have. Some twitch it's. Not

934
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: great you're a little bit tight in the. Upper body

935
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: he's a little bit, muscle, Bound right you have, some

936
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 2: twitch you have some. Natural athleticism they drop him, in

937
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 2: zone in fire zones all, the time gets. Under stuff

938
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 2: you see the. Hip movement there's a lot of stuff to.

939
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: Like there can you rush the passer AT the nfl

940
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: level is, MY thing, I think and one of THE

941
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: reasons i bring him up is because in the scheme

942
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 2: he's at, a duke he's playing like a tight. Five

943
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 2: technique so when you think About bain keema mesidor these

944
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: guys are playing, wide nines they can get these really

945
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 2: good angles to, the quarterback really set up the rush

946
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: and put the tackle.

947
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: In conflict that's not what they do.

948
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 2: With him they use him, on stunts they, loop him

949
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: they drop him in his zone into these, fire zones

950
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: so he doesn't get a lot of. Rush opportunities and

951
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: it's kind of the same Thing with Malachi And malachi

952
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: Lawrence And najalie kelly in terms of they're they're a

953
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: little bit TIGHTER than i would like them to be

954
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 2: in pass. Rushing situations so in these one, on ones

955
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 2: which we're going to get At The, senior bowl like

956
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 2: let's widen, him out let you attack. That runway what

957
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 2: do we get from those from those body types in

958
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 2: terms of rushing.

959
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: The passer so the one THING that i kind of

960
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 3: noticed about him is that he'll leave his feet sometimes for.

961
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: Some reason he kind of hoops, and jumps he jumps.

962
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: Around stuff but he's why why? DO that I think

963
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: the thing about HIM that i guess again he noticed that,

964
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: as WELL is i do think he's kind of got

965
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: like this explosiveness, to, Him right he's like a.

966
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: Little twitchy so there's times where. It works he's able

967
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: to kind.

968
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: Of like get to the, backside pad pull a guy

969
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: through and then be in the gap and make the

970
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: back balance or make. The tackle there are times where

971
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 2: he kind of is working wide with his HIPS and

972
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: i don't really. Understand that and, to me is that

973
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 2: a lack of understanding of what you are technically as a,

974
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 2: pass rusher because, TO me I want i want that six'

975
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 2: three two sixty five two seventy on a runway, down

976
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: your screws show him the bull attack. The outside shoulder

977
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: but because, of his alignment he doesn't get.

978
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: To do that.

979
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: He's, So tight okay, so that's again that's, WHERE it's

980
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 2: like i can you? Rush the passer i'm gonna give

981
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: you the benefit of. The doubt here let's. Widen you

982
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 2: out let's see what happens if you're. ON this runway

983
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: i want to SEE that because, I do think i

984
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: do think HE is a nfl first and second down.

985
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: Run stopping player it just can you? Rush the passer and,

986
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: if you can you're gonna make. Yourself.

987
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 3: Some money awesome i'm excited to see the edge. Rushers,

988
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 3: down there. Yeah me too that dress is. Always, for

989
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: something yeah there's there's gonna be somebody. THAT shines there

990
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 3: i hope it's one. Of These, Guys all right we're

991
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 3: moving on to. A fun one i put this guy

992
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 3: on here just because, he's to. Me he's fun he's,

993
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 3: a fun.

994
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: Player All Right. It's max britison is that how?

995
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: You say it i'm, GONNA say. Yes i haven't we.

996
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: Haven't done it we're still. Working on pronunciations but.

997
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: He's the tight End fullback from michigan six.

998
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 3: Two two fifty AND the reason i put him one

999
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 3: here is as a show ME is am I comp

1000
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 3: which i just love is A Pocket sized logan paulson because,

1001
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 3: he's smaller obviously but he's got all the things that

1002
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 3: you had, in, my opinion right he's. Just blocking monster

1003
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 3: he wants, to do it he's happy. To do, it

1004
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 3: he's physical, he attacks blocks. He finishes blocks he gets.

1005
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: Good in leverage he's, got nice strength works well to, the,

1006
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 3: second level which like some of, these tight ends, don't

1007
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 3: yet right but he's very, fluid with that rarely misses

1008
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 3: a target in a rung game. Like his assignment he

1009
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 3: goes and. He gets it his hands, are, just fine right.

1010
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 3: They're just fine but he's too small to be, an

1011
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: old lineman not athletic enough to be. A tight end.

1012
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: He is like.

1013
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 3: A true fullback but what do you do with a, guy,

1014
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: Like this right so THE thing that i want from

1015
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 3: show me is show me something that isn't just, a

1016
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: traditional fullback because a lot of teams are moving away

1017
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: from that in the sense of having a guy that.

1018
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 3: Does just that if they're going to run, a full

1019
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 3: back it's going to be a tight end that runs.

1020
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 3: That fullback position but then we'll go out to be

1021
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 3: a tight end and is your Six' four plus.

1022
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: He's just not that so.

1023
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: THAT'S my show me i like what he. BRINGS to

1024
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 3: a team i definitely like What. HE brings to michigan

1025
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: i just don't know how that ROLE. TRANSLATES to the

1026
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 3: nfl i.

1027
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: Think it's a great description of.

1028
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: Him AS a, player he i mean he's a, fun

1029
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: player to, watch like blue collar hard nos, and like

1030
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: you said like really consistent and the run fits in

1031
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: the Run GAME understanding targets like I, was surprised, because

1032
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 2: I you know when i was familiar, with THE player

1033
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 2: before and i always thought of him as. Just being

1034
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 2: a fullback but he does play a little. Bit in

1035
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: the wing they motioned him around kind of the way

1036
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: you would, do a you know kind of an, h

1037
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: back tight end kind of your. F adjuster tight end the,

1038
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 2: thing for, me is you know there are some teams

1039
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 2: that are moving to a more downhill run style and

1040
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: they actually carry. FULLBACK on the Roster i think of

1041
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: seattle as a team that's starting to do this. A

1042
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: LITTLE bit more, and i think About Honestly like the

1043
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: washington commanders and having a, More downhill running approach like

1044
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: does a player like this fit in a? More traditional

1045
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: fullback CAPACITY the thing that i want to see from

1046
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 2: him is how HE moves like Because I think about

1047
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 2: kyle yuschek is the he's the BEST, fullback in the nfl.

1048
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 3: But he has at elite athleticism and, hands, FROM that position.

1049
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: Right i just.

1050
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: Don't SEE that here So i guess WHAT i'm saying,

1051
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: is i, don't disagree is like do you have something

1052
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: to offer in that capacity right where we could put

1053
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: you out and you could catch a ball in the

1054
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: flat or what are? We going TO do and so

1055
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 2: i think this is going to be a great opportunity,

1056
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: for him to show like, to SHOW you like can

1057
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: i catch a football on some different?

1058
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: Kind of route combinations what does my?

1059
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: General athleticism look, like because to me there's no, doubt

1060
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 2: about his physicality like he, is, a really, fun like you.

1061
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: KNOW game recognized GAME i guess like i really like,

1062
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: those kind of tough hard nosed guys that are going

1063
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 2: to get downhill and stick.

1064
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: Their face.

1065
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: ON people finished blocks i love the way he finishes

1066
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: blocks like He's. A FOOTBALL playing johnny but i do

1067
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: think that the role will be interesting. At the NEXT

1068
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 2: level and again i think something he could he could

1069
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 2: help himself with is how is? He on special teams

1070
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 2: so they're going to do special teams Drills Down, at

1071
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 2: the SHRINE bowl but also i need to see something.

1072
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 2: IN the past game i can't have you on the,

1073
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 2: team just to block as fun as that is for, A,

1074
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: GUY like.

1075
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: Me yeah i was gonna say.

1076
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 3: That with special teams the thing with guys like him

1077
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 3: is that you feel like he loves football and he's gonna,

1078
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 3: do the dirty work and he's gonna love. Doing the

1079
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 3: dirty work, so that's to me that like is stuff

1080
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 3: that you're looking for in these later rounds because you

1081
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: know you can bring them in and put. Them, on

1082
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 3: special teams right maybe he, doesn't start right away, but

1083
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 3: my point is you know he will go into special

1084
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 3: teams and he will, play that hard yeah and do

1085
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 3: the dirty work in the special. Teams that you need,

1086
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 3: but like you said there's probably there's enough other guys

1087
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: that are like that that you need to show a little.

1088
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 3: Bit of something ELSE and that's what i want him

1089
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 3: TO show me because i like him. As, a football

1090
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: player right you. Are a football player but do YOU

1091
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 3: have something that i can look for to exploit or

1092
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 3: coach at the next level or you just you just

1093
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 3: a monster college. Player who loves football and that's kind.

1094
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: Of. Where, it ends.

1095
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: Page okay this next GUY to, me is i mean

1096
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: and this is such an, interesting prospect TO Me and

1097
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: like i i'm going to. SAY something crazy here i

1098
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: need everyone to.

1099
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: Just stay with me we.

1100
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 2: Talked about comps earlier so the next guy On My.

1101
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 2: List is eli hendrickson Is That? You, say hendrick hendrick No.

1102
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: It's Like. HEIDEN reich heiden reich. I like that Better.

1103
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 2: He like heiden reich he's a wide Receiver. Running back

1104
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: at navy six, foot two two. Six six ft six

1105
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 2: there's the, rain man coming out but the uh but

1106
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 2: so six foot two o six and he does Play.

1107
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 2: Wide receiver at navy he also. Does play running back they.

1108
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 2: Run the triple option he kind of, plays a wing

1109
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,479
Speaker 2: back so he's not a traditional like in. The dot

1110
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: running back he's. Not the best athlete he's. A little

1111
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: bit stiff he moves, like a running back but he

1112
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: plays wide. Receiver in this offense and SO the thing

1113
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: that i was WATCHING his film and, I just was

1114
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 2: like i couldn't shake this notion is the one thing

1115
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: you're looking. For at running back AND the one criticism

1116
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: i have of, running, backs and like oh you can

1117
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: use him in the past game is they. Don't run

1118
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: good routes eli. Runs really GOOD routes and what i

1119
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: mean by THAT is his, like i talked about he has.

1120
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 2: A great release package he runs stems really at. A

1121
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: REALLY high level so i always LOOK at like, a

1122
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: stem is LIKE how when the dB has a, certain

1123
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 2: leverage on me if he's, outside leverage ON me how

1124
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: do i work the beginning of the Route to make

1125
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: sure i'm head? Up square on him and then what

1126
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: are the LITTLE story nuances that i bring at five

1127
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: and ten yards To make him think i'm. Running a

1128
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 2: different Route and our guy eli does that at. A

1129
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: REALLY high level, so i was like if, he can

1130
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 2: do that he can for sure, because he's beating corners

1131
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: and these are not Like. Small schools like maryland He's

1132
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: being like a maryland corner. On a post route and

1133
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: again there's a little bit of context here because. It's

1134
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: so play action it's. So play action heavy he doesn't

1135
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: have To contend with line but if you, can beat

1136
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 2: a corner you can for sure be A linebacker. At,

1137
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 2: The nfl level right so the thing he needs, to

1138
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: show me is can you? Play traditional running back can we?

1139
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: Pick up a blitz? Can we get downhill can? We

1140
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 2: run outside zone because he does run sweeps Quite, a bit,

1141
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: at navy because that to me is the ultimate third,

1142
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: down PASS catching weapon like i think About Him in.

1143
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 2: A kyle shinahan offense in terms of he reminded. Me,

1144
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 2: a little bit OKAY this is where i need. Everyone

1145
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 2: to calm down just, take. A deep breath everyone he

1146
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 2: reminded me A little bit of christian McCaffrey in the.

1147
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: Way everybody in the. Way, everybody got down.

1148
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah everybody calmed down in the way that you could

1149
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: use him as a guy that you could split. Out

1150
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 2: in the slot he could, Win on a choice you could,

1151
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: put him out wide he could win on an under

1152
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 2: or a dig like that's. A valuable SKILL set like

1153
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: if i come out in twenty one Personnel With our

1154
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 2: Guy max brendanson and, eli in the backfield that, actually

1155
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 2: is eleven personnel or, it's twenty one personnel like it

1156
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: is a big personnel where we get downhill if he,

1157
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: can run the football or he can play, like slot

1158
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 2: why receiver and now You're in base and i'm winning

1159
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 2: line a matchup versa linebacker and That's What makes that san.

1160
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 2: Francisco offense so deadly and we've talked about guys. That

1161
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: can do this WE'VE kind Of like i remember dylan

1162
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 2: lub a couple Of Years ago from new hampshire who

1163
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: was a who ran good routes, for a running back

1164
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 2: but didn't run good routes for a wide receiver and was.

1165
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 2: Like five to nine, this guy's six foot he's almost two.

1166
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: Hundred and ten pounds he can win on the perimeter versus.

1167
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 2: A linebacker A safety i believe i need you. To

1168
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 2: show me that i'm giving you a lot, of CLOUT

1169
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 2: here right and i need you to show them you.

1170
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 2: Can run the football those ARE the two things, I

1171
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: need to see like it's not can't. JUST be perimeter

1172
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: runs i need to see you get downhill in between,

1173
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: the tackles and again like because that if he is

1174
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 2: a running back that moonlights, as a wide receiver that

1175
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 2: is a VALUABLE. Piece in the nfl but if he's

1176
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 2: a receiver moonlighting, as a running back there's not a

1177
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 2: lot of cause there to be excited because HE can't.

1178
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 2: WIN versus nfl corners i don't think on the perimeter

1179
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 2: because he's. Not, A plus, athlete.

1180
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 3: YEAH i mean THAT'S i know what i wrote, down

1181
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 3: with ALL this except that i thought that maybe he

1182
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 3: doesn't have the twitchiness to, Be A running back.

1183
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: Like i don't know that that's. The running back. Thing

1184
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: THAT'S the thing so i wrote down like he might

1185
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: just have.

1186
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 3: To BE wide receiver but, i literally put, Here he's

1187
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 3: Gonna struggle.

1188
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: That's what i'm saying but if, if you can play if,

1189
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 2: he can play run this, is the big if AND

1190
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 2: this is what, i need to see is if you

1191
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 2: can play RUNNING, back in the nfl, the pass catching

1192
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: stuff you. Will have a role but if you're a

1193
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 2: receiver that is occasionally moonlighting, as a Running back you're

1194
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: not you're not. A good enough athlete you're a good

1195
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 2: enough athlete, to, play running back right but you're not

1196
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 2: a good enough. Athlete to play receiver so that's where

1197
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: it's like the matchup. Here becomes so important the matchup

1198
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: he's going to draw, as a running back. He can

1199
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: win that the matchup he's going to, draw as. A

1200
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 2: receiver no Shot so that's what, i'm saying is like

1201
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 2: you have to show me you can play three downs

1202
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 2: of running back to earn the right to be split

1203
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 2: out and win roots.

1204
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: As a wide Receiver so that's where.

1205
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: I'm min, at him because again like he's not the

1206
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: best athlete, in the whole world he has a. Very

1207
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: upright running style he's got a little Bit of football,

1208
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 2: Playing johnny to him like there's a couple of plays

1209
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 2: on his target cut up where he's like mossing people

1210
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 2: one handed, Catches in the seam like he's got something

1211
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: to him. As a pass catcher it's just you need

1212
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 2: to think about matchups with. Him more than anything and

1213
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 2: this is where again we're.

1214
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: Going bargain.

1215
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: beIN SHOPPING nobody's perfect is i think about him in

1216
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: The context of the commanders as. A third down back

1217
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: show me you can, Pick up a blitz show me

1218
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 2: you could run a draw and then we can catch

1219
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 2: some passes out of the backfield.

1220
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 3: And, do SOME damage yeah and i, think that the

1221
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 3: mentality like We Just said, with max. Britison, before it's there, yeah,

1222
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 3: he loves football physical. Hard, to run it, yeah, he's

1223
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 3: maybe yeah yeah he's he's going to get after IT

1224
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 3: right like and i. Agree with you completely it's these

1225
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 3: two back to back are kind of, the, same for

1226
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 3: me right and that's. Why they're, in there show me

1227
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 3: show me that you can do the thing that we

1228
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 3: need you to do to BE effective on an nfl

1229
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 3: team because in, college you're a demon but it's a DIFFERENT.

1230
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: Animal in the nfl so you have to have. Something, a,

1231
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 1: LITTLE extra yeah absolutely i agree. With, you completely, there

1232
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: yeah all right moving. On, the bonus round yeah we got.

1233
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 3: A little bonus round we, just did eight, guys but

1234
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 3: let's uh let's round it out here and make.

1235
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: It A Nice, ten so jack andreys The, tight end

1236
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 2: from texas IS a guy that i. THINK is really

1237
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: interesting i fell in love, with him last, year two

1238
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: years ago two years Ago with him at cal because

1239
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 2: he is, Pretty, good in line like, His footwork's pretty good,

1240
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: he's got good length he can. Grab on his stuff

1241
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 2: and the other THING about him that i really like.

1242
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: Is he is TALL he's like six i. Think he's six'

1243
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: four but he has this nice ability to kind of snake.

1244
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 2: In an out of cuts, he can sink his hips.

1245
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: He's a nice hands catcher the one thing with him

1246
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: is that he's two, hundred, and thirty eight pounds right

1247
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 2: so he's not. Like this, traditional tight end so?

1248
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: Like where?

1249
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: Do You fit can you because? I've SEEN you be

1250
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: competitive like i actually thought he, weighed like, Two sixty

1251
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 2: FIVE you know and then i met him in Person,

1252
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 2: again OUT here in, california, and i was Like oh

1253
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 2: you're like basket, You're like a basketball player so? Can

1254
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 2: you compete in line because if you can AND hang

1255
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 2: on to big nfl defense events and run, Routes, the

1256
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 2: way you do like he's a guy to me that

1257
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 2: felt like he Should Have. Been at the SENIOR bowl

1258
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: like that's how i think he's gonna be. A top

1259
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 2: one hundred player so just can you show me that

1260
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: you can block with those big boys?

1261
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: At a, game like this all, right some spind this.

1262
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 1: Round we're. Moving, Pretty quick one more.

1263
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah so this kid is the maybe. The biggest question

1264
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: for me we Talked About. Best, Receiver Being dylan bell

1265
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: obviously dejoon stribling was. Another guy that came up he's

1266
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: not going to go because He, went told miss is

1267
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 2: jalen How Do? You, SAY that wall Walthall Yeah I

1268
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 2: would Say Walthall jellen walthall from incarnate word six two hundred,

1269
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 2: and eighty pounds and dude, he's got some great tape.

1270
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: Like he can absolutely fly but the but the problem

1271
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: is it looks like he's, playing, with, high school kids

1272
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: like like that's WHAT it, looks LIKE when i want

1273
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: like i actually looked Up On the high pad incarnate

1274
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: word film and it looks like it's a.

1275
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: It's big high school football like he is.

1276
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 2: Going against corners who are five to five and, so

1277
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 2: sometimes they body him they push him to the. Sideline,

1278
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 2: he gets walled out also sometimes he catches the football

1279
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: it makes five people miss and goes. Eighty yards for

1280
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 2: A touchdown what are you because we're looking for guys with.

1281
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: Roles at the next, level you have, athletic juice you

1282
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 2: have twitch. You checked the ball well but level of

1283
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: competition for me is it's almost a non starter. In

1284
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: terms of watching it i'm so glad he's Going To

1285
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 2: be AT the shrine bowl because i want to see

1286
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 2: what that athlete looks. Like against some better competition.

1287
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 3: It's so funny, you mentioned IT that way, because when

1288
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 3: i watched it the thing that came to mind is

1289
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 3: like when your buddies go out and you play flag

1290
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 3: football and you have the guy that used, to play

1291
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 3: college wide.

1292
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: Receiver he's just mossing everybody and that's what and.

1293
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 3: That's what it looks like so you, have no like

1294
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 3: to us he's the best, Guy that's ever played football

1295
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 3: but that's standing Next to, Just, A guy jason right

1296
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 3: like i have, no idea what this is but the raw.

1297
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: Talent.

1298
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 3: Looks like it's there right there's also a couple. Of

1299
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 3: fun things about him i'm going to rattle off real

1300
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 3: quick BECAUSE he was so intriguing. I readsearched it first

1301
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 3: off listeners may know him because he went viral for

1302
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 3: his headstand touchdown celebration that Was Then immediately Duplicated by

1303
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 3: Drake london, and i'm on roth right so that. Was

1304
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 3: him that started it He's Number Ninety four on feldman's

1305
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 3: freak List because he was the. Texas state, triple jump champ.

1306
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: No kidding yep uh else He's.

1307
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 3: Got a triple jump santanamos it shows a little bit Of.

1308
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 3: That birth not saying santana but he has a forty

1309
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 3: inch avert ten to seven broad ten to seven broad

1310
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 3: clocked that twenty two MILES per hour on the gps and.

1311
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 3: Can power clean to ninety.

1312
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: So he's one hundred pounds he's. One hundred and eighty

1313
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: pounds so.

1314
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 3: He's got he's got, something he's got, some guys He's

1315
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 3: got something which is i'm glad he's dominating at this

1316
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 3: level of competition because if he, had all that, and,

1317
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 3: wasn't like holy, cow right so nice, footwork, great catch and,

1318
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 3: run misstackles but It again Is that because jessic.

1319
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: Guy jason's trying to. DIATLY HE caught a screen i

1320
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: i don't even.

1321
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 2: Know who the school was he got a screen and

1322
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 2: like literally, the old line block nobody and he just

1323
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 2: outran everybody to the sideline for an ado for it

1324
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 2: was like.

1325
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: A sixty five yard, touchdown and it's like cool like what?

1326
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 3: Do?

1327
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: You do with that right like.

1328
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 2: You're just BETTER than everybody and so i want. TO

1329
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 2: see how he compete i want to see how HE

1330
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,479
Speaker 2: competes is really. What i want to see like he's gonna,

1331
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: get in one on ones. He's gonna get hemmed up

1332
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 2: like these guys are bigger and stronger than the guys he.

1333
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 2: Used to, go in against but? Like how do you

1334
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 2: compete how do you fight for the? Football when, it's

1335
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 2: not perfect and again we're looking for we're looking, For,

1336
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: diamonds in the rough right you got to kind, of

1337
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 2: squint and you know kind of duck your. Head and

1338
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 2: all this stuff he is, definitely, one of those guys man.

1339
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 3: But he Has, THE juice Let Me, so i watched southeastern,

1340
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 3: louisiana who he played RIGHT and he had a pff

1341
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 3: grade in this game. Of a.

1342
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: Ninety point three. Pretty, Good he's really good okay so.

1343
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,959
Speaker 3: In this game he is just catching, everything that comes.

1344
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 3: To him Just BURNING guys Here's where i'm i don't

1345
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 3: here's A good example of why i don't know, What,

1346
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 3: to make of him okay is he had three catches

1347
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 3: in that game where he's catching this crazy contested catch

1348
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 3: but he's, not high pointing. The ball.

1349
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: It's he's.

1350
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 3: Contorting it's an incredible catch this is not a comp in. The,

1351
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 3: In the player Comparison way but it's, How, terry mcclurin

1352
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 3: sometimes kidding Nope but you know how. Terry just has

1353
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 3: that knack it's. Not jumping and mossing people it's contorting

1354
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 3: your body and getting into the right position to make

1355
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 3: the catch at this weird kind of point and you

1356
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 3: just somehow make it compared. To what the defenders do

1357
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 3: is he had three Of Those. Like that against southeastern?

1358
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 3: Louisiana CAN you. Do that because i don't, terry, Is

1359
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 3: a special Player right So if. You that's where i'm

1360
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 3: confused why are?

1361
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 2: These?

1362
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 3: Guys even on you right why are you not Toasting

1363
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 3: them with?

1364
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: Your?

1365
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 3: Athletic WHY is leaving. Yeah so i don't know and,

1366
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 3: again and it's and again.

1367
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 2: LET me just say this i, Started, To cut you

1368
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 2: off jason like the reason we're bringing this up is

1369
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 2: because he's a. Guy, That, could be something right like

1370
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: there's you know we did that we did the top

1371
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: ten where we talked about All the guys we're being

1372
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 2: THOSE guys, Are gonna be nfl players they're all going

1373
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: to play. For at least five years they're gonna. Have

1374
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: some role and, whatever these guys are guys we're trying

1375
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 2: to figure.

1376
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 3: Out.

1377
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: IF there's a role right i Kind of CHEATED with

1378
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 2: jack enries BECAUSE i think he's an nfl player that

1379
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: waits a. Little bit of a concern But Like, you

1380
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 2: look at ethan, Burke Leg, strengths and issue dylan, bell

1381
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 2: there's just, some, Drops some, Consistency, STUFF right diego pounds

1382
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 2: right i, see the movement the athlete but there's a little, bit,

1383
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 2: Inconsistent To, his game right roman higbee?

1384
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: Is he?

1385
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 2: The plus, athlete we think you know THE, two defensive

1386
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 2: ends from ucf like. They, both have their warts wesley?

1387
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: Can? You Rest, the passer right max brennan? What position do?

1388
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: You PLAY and do that? Does Nfl Teams? Want you

1389
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: and eli henderson can you? Actually? Play?

1390
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 2: A running back YEAH right hide and sorry i keep.

1391
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 2: Saying that hide and rank. But they all have something

1392
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 2: And This is how the shrine Bowl Is, different Than The.

1393
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 2: Senior bowl the senior ball YOU'RE like. That dude's AN

1394
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 2: nfl player. He's an, nfl rotation guy right now. These Guys,

1395
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 2: Are role Players that ken we're saying ken maybe possibly be.

1396
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 2: Developed In, the right, Situation with.

1397
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: Walthall he blocks he's really like. HE has all the

1398
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: thing i.

1399
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 3: DON'T care about your combine i know you've got the

1400
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 3: explosiveness you.

1401
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: Want to see? What you want? To see what? A

1402
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: ball this?

1403
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 2: Is it this?

1404
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: Is it this is it you you be. Again, just

1405
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: like a bell yeah be THE best receiver there.

1406
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 2: Because i Think, BECAUSE when, you, said belle i said

1407
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 2: oh the other guy would Probably.

1408
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: Throw, IN there is.

1409
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 3: WALFALL yeah i like it i, needn't put them on.

1410
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 3: There but he's compelling me, i'm, excited to see him like.

1411
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 3: Be the, best guy there you.

1412
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 2: Know you know, it Would be bad though because i've

1413
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 2: seen a lot of small school guys go to some

1414
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 2: of these and you don't you.

1415
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: Don't feel them at all they just. It's too it's. Too,

1416
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: steep so we'll see yeah and. That's so excited for.

1417
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:03,439
Speaker 1: This so when's the show? When's?

1418
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 2: The show come out Jason. It comes, out on monday

1419
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 2: so yeah so by the next, show you'll have from

1420
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 2: us We'll. Be, we'll be in dallas yeah we'll, have,

1421
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 2: seen the first practice yeah which is going.

1422
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 3: To be a live show. Then, we'll respond to it

1423
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 3: man we'll tell you how these guys.

1424
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: Are doing the. Sect one it is Exciting And.

1425
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 2: Again, with the shrine bowl specifically if you're a super, draft,

1426
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 2: and there's suddenly like hey, what about so and so,

1427
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 2: please leave us. A message leave a, comment.

1428
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,919
Speaker 3: Yeah you got time because we'll see it in time

1429
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 3: to then star them on our paper and we'll, make

1430
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 3: sure we, get iced.

1431
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: We address them because again we're going to do a show, every, Day,

1432
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: we're out. There right jason every day the only one

1433
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: we're going to miss. Is they have, four.

1434
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 3: Practices miss last, one well we'll watch it but we

1435
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 3: won't do a show for the last ones.

1436
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: We're trying to go on because. We're, getting on a plane.

1437
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah BUT we'll recap It but. I.

1438
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 2: Guess what i'm saying well we'll have three days to,

1439
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 2: get to your guys day so please. Please, send, it

1440
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 2: to us yeah.

1441
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: Man what a fun.

1442
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 2: One this HAS been fun this is i actually kind

1443
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 2: of like this diamond in The Rough element of the

1444
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 2: shrine bowl a little bit more In Some. Ways, Than

1445
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 2: the senior, bowl obviously senior bowls great BUT this is

1446
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 2: fun and i can't wait to see how these guys perform.

1447
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: In a, couple of. DAYS all right that's it

1448
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 2: M