WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Standouts From #DALvsAZ 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:03.880 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:07.080 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:11.600 a break? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely ready 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:15.560 for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. It's 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:21.520 time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:26.800 Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:30.640 It is Monday, September twenty fifth, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen, 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.240 episode number forty four. Welcome to another edition of The Break, 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:36.440 live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:38.879 And this is going to be a delirious hour of 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.800 Cowboys football because not only do we have a lot 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:44.680 to talk about, but we are all delirious because we don't. 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:49.199 We haven't slept much. How's everybody doing today? Hell, I 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:52.760 am great. Derek want me to bring the energy. So 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.840 I'm bringing the energy. Bring the energy. Got two and 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:58.360 a half hours of sleep. I'm ready to go do 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:00.959 some radio. Here we go, Nick, We're I mean, we're 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:03.440 for the people here. I mean, think about it, for 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.240 the people. I mean the look at the you know, 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:08.840 not only do we got different groups that we represent here, 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:10.679 but we're also I mean we got the we got 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:12.640 the sport code, we got the polo, we got we 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:15.560 got a hoodie at the top. We got yeah, I 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:20.320 mean we oh the relax relax. As I thought she 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:24.720 said the Blacks. I was like, the people have one two. 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:29.160 I don't know about the Blacks, but we got one. Yeah. 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:30.959 All right, let's let's get into this. We got a 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:34.080 lot to talk about. Cowboys win yesterday twenty eighth, seventeen, 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:37.759 and um, it was I think a sorely needed wind 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.679 coming out of what happened against Denver. Although it may 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:43.360 have started off a little bit shaky and a little 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.400 bit like, oh, here we go again, they righted and 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.280 they righted. There we go again. They righted the ship 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:51.760 and uh and actually got onto a role there. But 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:53.639 I don't do is that there were so many different 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:55.560 storylines coming out of yesterday. I want to take some 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:57.640 time first to go around the table, and I want 0:01:57.680 --> 0:01:59.600 everybody to start by giving me one thing that stood 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:03.760 out to you most from yesterday, whether that's pregame, whether 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:05.920 that was in game, what stood out the most? You 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.639 will start with you Nick, Well, I mean there's a 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:10.600 couple of things. I don't want to steal anyone stuff, 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.520 but you know, it is unfortunate. It's unfortunate that people 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.440 just don't see what's what's really going on. You know, 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:20.280 the fact that that what the Cowboys did, what they 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.799 did before the game, UM, that that people are losing 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:26.440 sight on that they see the kneel and they think 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.359 that they were kneeling for the national anthem and that 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.200 they didn't see what they really did. And if whether 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:35.160 you're watching it at a sports bar or whatever and 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.360 you didn't hear it, but it's it's your fault if 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.760 you're gonna get on social media and attack people and 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:41.919 say that you can't believe the Cowboys did this. To 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:44.320 get your facts straight on what they did and why 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.720 they did it before you speak that, and that that's 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:50.120 unfortunate because they put a lot of thought thought that 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:54.079 that actually UM took into their preparation. I mean, let's 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:56.200 not forget forty eight hours four game. You're thinking about 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.600 what you're gonna do pre game because it's that important, 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:00.480 and they went out and delivered it. No, they didn't 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.679 play well to start the game, but they put a 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:05.799 lot of thought into it. Find out what they did 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.680 and why they did it before they get judged for it. 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.440 They were the best team in the league this weekend 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.320 at what they did, and they have to because you're 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:17.480 America's team, and they acted like it. Amber No. I mean, 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:22.320 I'm absolutely impressed by the way they handled this situation. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.720 And I know they have been struggling with what they 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:29.080 were going to do about this fact and how they 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.640 we're gonna go about it, and I'm just absolutely proud 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:36.480 to see the outcome of this because not only did 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:40.440 they go by respecting the flag and the national anthem 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.520 and all that, but they also took a stand and 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:47.440 stood side by side with those players that did want 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:51.200 to protest, you know. So it was good to see 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:53.840 them all united because I'm sure there were several there 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.840 are players that may not want to do that, but 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.680 they still did it. But at the same time respecting 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.720 anthem and kind of keeping the two things separate and 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:09.240 not letting the whole presidential and politics kind of talk 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.840 bad about this flag and the honor that it is 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:18.039 to be an American. So I loved what they did here, Dave, 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:23.760 I guess I'm just stuck with football. Then feel feel 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.200 free to get let's change that. Then, since we kind 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:27.720 of start on that, why don't you give your give 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:29.520 us your opinion of the pregame, and then we'll get 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.919 into some of the football stuff. UM leave it to 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.479 leave it to Jerry Jones to come up with a 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:40.560 way to kind of satisfy everybody and kind of think 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:44.880 outside the box. Even with all the different um, even 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:47.039 with all the different demonstrations you saw around the league 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:49.360 on Sunday, he came up with something that clearly nobody 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:51.400 else had thought of, where you were able to kind 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:55.120 of speak your mind about the issue that started this 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:59.360 whole thing while still um honoring the national anthem and 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:02.080 the American which is something that Jerry Jones and Jason 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:05.120 Garrett have both repeatedly expressed is something that they value 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:08.760 a lot, something the Cowboys organization values a lot. So 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:12.080 they were basically, I mean, they were kind of able 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:13.719 to have their cake and eat it too because they 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:17.120 made a really powerful statement. I mean, you saw a 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:20.680 lot of NFL owners take part in these demonstrations over 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:22.960 the weekend. You didn't see any of them kneel with 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:27.760 their team in this moment of solidarity before kickoff. And 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.159 then they were still able to, you know, adhere to 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.400 their core values about the flag and the anthem and 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.160 everything that it stands for. I thought, I'm not going 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.280 to read the whole thing, but Jason Garrett had a 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:41.200 pretty striking quote last night about how, you know, the 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:44.839 flag represents two hundred and fifty years of struggle and 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:48.960 the ideals of you know, the American democracy. You can 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:50.840 go find on my Twitter timeline if you really want 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.480 to read it. But but you know, they basically didn't 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:55.480 have to compromise on any of that stuff while still 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.320 making a statement, and it was impressive that they were 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:00.360 able to come up with kind of a work around 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:02.880 like that. Yeah, I thought, UM, I thought there were 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.240 some pretty important things that happened as a part of that. 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.560 I think one of them was that UM and Jerry 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.680 talked a little bit about this after the game. I think, UM, 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:14.360 I think they were able to and I'm not quite 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.760 certain yet. I think time will tell, but I think 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:20.760 they were able to, UM kind of change the narrative 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.480 a little bit. I was uncomfortable and at Dave, you 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:25.080 and I had this conversation. I think both of us 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.840 were a little bit uncomfortable with how it seems like 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:31.640 over the last over the last several days, the narrative 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:35.359 of what all the protests was originally about had changed, 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.520 and the narrative had had taken more of a tone 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:44.919 of either that that it was somehow a something that 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:49.280 that was um that was harmful to the flag and 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:53.320 represented something that was not respectful of the flag. It 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.520 had taken on a whole Trump thing because it kind 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.920 of got boosted up to another level because of his comments. 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.279 I think that in this way, what it did was 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:06.440 kind of disarmed those things and said, Okay, well, if 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:08.760 the flag is the issue that so many people have, 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:12.000 let's take that part out, like, let's remove that part 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:15.400 from the discussion, and then let's let's now kind of 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:19.920 point back to equality, and which the original issue was 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.600 the fact that there were there were people that Colin 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.640 kaeperni felt like, specifically there were African American people that 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.720 he felt like, we're not being treated justly in a 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.480 lot of different areas, and that was his original protest, 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:35.400 and it got bastardized because of all these other things. 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:37.280 And so I like the fact that the way the 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.120 Cowboys did it kind of disarmed that and moved back 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.720 away from that. Now did it do enough? I don't know. 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.800 Is it going to really create more of a conversation 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.200 to where people are really talking more about these issues 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:51.960 and willing to not just talk because we all do 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.800 a good job of talking, but listen and hear what 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:57.240 other people are saying so that we all can kind 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:00.960 of learn from one another and improve the conversation, improve 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.040 the dialogue so that we get better as a country. 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:05.360 Like that's still to be seen, but I do like 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:08.440 the fact that it changed the narrative back hopefully to 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:10.720 kind of what it should have been. Do you think 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:12.600 it did? I don't know. That's why I said, I 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:15.360 think this is time will tell. I hope so, because 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:18.320 I think it did disarm at least for the people 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:21.560 that were not being able to see the issue because 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:25.240 of the method. This takes the method out of the 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.920 out of the out of the equation, and now let's 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.160 see if they can really hear the issue and deal 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:34.400 with the issue. To mister Eatman's point, though, their period 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:36.160 to still be a lot of people that are pretty 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.920 mad about it, just be for I mean, in my 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.240 personal opinion, for no reason other than that they want 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.400 to be mad. And that may also tell you that 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.400 at least for some of those people, I think some 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:48.480 of it is misinformation, But maybe for some of those people, 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.000 it may tell you that they weren't as upset as 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.280 they said about the method. Yeah, they were more upset 0:08:54.320 --> 0:09:00.280 with the idea that these multi millionaire black athletes are 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.319 taking a stand for something that's not about them, it's 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.320 about somebody else, and and they have a problem with 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:09.200 that fundamentally. That's well, that's kind of where I sorry, 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:13.040 but I worry about that aspect of it. Derek and 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:15.520 I we've known each other for about I don't know, 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:19.920 eighteen nineteen years something like that, and uh, probably had 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:23.440 one of the more deeper conversations we've ever had a 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:28.400 few hours ago, and you expressed some some things, you know, 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:29.800 and I don't know if you want to get into 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:31.720 it here, but but you kind of gave your stance 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.800 on some on some things um that I thought were 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:38.920 really um they were deep, you know, and you were 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:42.560 talking about what taking a stance will do because because 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.360 what I talked about it in my column, and I 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:47.839 was really careful with it because I'm like, I feel 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:51.679 like my platform is to talk about the Cowboys. We 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:54.440 covered the team. We're here, you know, my platform to 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:58.240 talk about my opinion, you know, the guys that are listening, 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:00.960 listening right now, their opinion matter just as much because 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:04.320 this isn't about football, this is about what your stance is. 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:08.680 So I'm all careful to kind of almost abuse my platform. 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:10.880 And I kind of talked about are the players going 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:14.599 down that road too a little bit? And if we 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:16.800 I mean, if you don't mind sharing on some of 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:20.480 the things that you said, because it really opened my 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:24.040 eyes to the situation a little bit more, I guess 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:25.800 the point of it for me, and I really kind 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:27.520 of came to this as I was thinking about this 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.400 over the weekend. I kind of came to this. I 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:31.880 don't know if you want to call it an epiphany 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.320 or not, but I live. For those that don't know me, 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:37.840 I live a pretty comfortable life. I have a job 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.920 as a pretty high and pretty high profile brand. I 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.400 manage a lot of people. My wife's an attorney, kid 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:46.560 goes to private school. Like, there's a lot of things 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:49.280 about my life that suggests that I don't have to 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:53.760 worry about a lot of things, right, And when I 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.559 think about that in the context of these players, I 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.520 know where near where those players are from a financial standpoint, 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:03.920 or you know, whatever level of success they've reached. Versus 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.000 the level of success that I've reached. But I live 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.880 a comfortable life. And when you start thinking about it 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:12.720 from that perspective, I look at I look at just 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:16.440 a generation ago, and there were a ton of people 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:22.839 who had money and privilege and wealth and success, people 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:27.480 like Muhammad Ali, people like Kareem Abdul Jabbar, people like 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:31.320 Bill Russell, people that, and that doesn't even get into 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.439 some of the other people that we know, like doctor 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.960 King and people like that. But people that were willing 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:39.880 to do things that could affect them that they'd have 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.440 to pay price for, but doing it for the greater good, 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.880 not for themselves, not because they were going to get 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.679 in because they already had success, they already had fame 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:51.800 and wealth and the whole nine. They were doing it 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.120 because they saw a lot of other people who needed 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:57.520 someone with a platform to be able to speak on 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:01.800 their behalf. And it would be hypocritical of me at 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:07.200 this point where I am to now scoff at how 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.199 these athletes are choosing to use that platform. And Nick, 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:12.400 when you talked about the platform and using the platform, 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:16.480 I think that but for that platform, and but for 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:20.960 those guys like Muhammad Ali and those others being willing 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:24.560 to use their platform to speak out, I wouldn't be 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:26.800 in the position that I'm in. It's very hard to 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:29.959 believe that I would be in a position, judging from 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.440 where people like me were in the nineteen sixties and 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:34.760 seventies in this country, that I'd be in a position 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:38.240 where I'm managing, you know it, let's be blunt, while 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.840 I'm managing people who are white like That would not 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:44.640 be happening, right, And so it would be very very 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:48.120 hypocritical of me now to say, hey, these guys have 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.440 a platform, but they should not use that platform in 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.560 order to speak on behalf of people who don't have 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.320 that platform and don't have the ability to be able 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.200 to speak for themselves to where people will listen and 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.959 hear what they have to say. So I applaud people 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.360 being willing to take a stand for what they believe in. 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:07.679 Sometimes they're gonna be there's gonna be a penalty that 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.560 has to be paid for that. But just as those 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.560 guys a generation ago and two generations ago have done, 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.640 I applaud them for doing that. And I respect the 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:18.880 fact that the cowboys were willing to find a way 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:22.200 where in a room of fifty three men. They could 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.480 find something that was a compromise that they all could 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:27.280 agree on, that allowed some to protest in certain ways, 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:29.760 and like do you said, dave others to hold true 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.560 to whatever core values they had. It's, you know what 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.880 I mean, very well said. And I think that it's 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:39.280 really hard for people to try to get into other 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.600 people's shoes and to say what they're dealing with. And 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:43.800 I've said this to you before, I've said this. You know, 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:46.880 when I've been pulled over in my life, it's because 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:50.640 I was speeding. That's why. That's why I got pulled over, 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.640 or maybe I didn't have my signal on or seatbelt 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:56.000 or whatever that you probably can't say the same thing. 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.800 And there's something that's something I don't go through and 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.360 I know that, and I try to the best I 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:03.960 can to kind of give him my views, but not 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.880 knowing what yours are in your stance and stuff like that. 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.640 And I think if more people would do that and 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.000 quit saying, well, you don't need to do that, you 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:14.000 don't need to do do you don't really know, you don't 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.040 really know what that's like. And so and I know 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:19.640 I don't, I don't, I don't think you can empathy 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.600 in perspective or like just I genuinely believe those are 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.760 two of the most important things. And it's funny that 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.000 Derek just said that and it was so eloquent. I've 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:29.040 been thinking about the same thing from the opposite side 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.960 of the spectrum all weekend, which is that I can't 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:33.960 really relate to that at all, you know, like I 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:37.480 am the I am the poster boy for the term 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:39.800 white privilege that you here thrown around so much. You know, 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:43.960 I mean, middle class, white guy, nuclear family. I went 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.080 to private school. I didn't have to worry. I mean, 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:47.640 I knew I was going to college from the time 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:49.720 I was old enough to know what college was, you know, 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:51.600 that type of Yeah, I don't have to worry about 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:53.280 what the cops are gonna do to me. I've never 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:55.760 been afraid of a police officer in that sense, you know, 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:00.240 or anything like that. But I can still empathy with 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:02.520 people who come from that and look at that and say, 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.400 you know, there are some realities in this world that 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.240 that I can't comprehend. But I still understand that they 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:11.200 are issues, and just because I can't relate to them 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:14.000 doesn't mean they're not real things. Uh, it's not something 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.960 you have to get angry about. Um. And and to 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.440 your point, and an NFL locker room or any locker 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:21.520 room is a great place to kind of see that. 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:22.920 I was thinking about that last night when I was 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.720 talking all these guys. I mean, uh, you know, you're 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:29.720 you're Ezekiel Eliot's your DeMarcus Lawrence is your Dez Bryant. 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.120 I mean, who comes from a rougher background than Dez 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:36.320 Bryant Coming together with a guy like Sean Lee, who's 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:39.960 a white dude from western Pennsylvania. You know, mister, all 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:42.440 of me, you know, all high school basketball and h 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:46.280 and Jason Witten and they come together and kind of, 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:50.480 you know, decide on this solution that they can all 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:52.920 agree on that that makes them all feel like they're 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:55.040 they're part of something. They're they're being true to who 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:57.040 they are and what they want to do. And they 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.520 made it all work between sixty three dudes and or 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:02.960 fifty three players and two dozen other you know, staffers 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:06.520 and owners and everything else. And like I said, empathy 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:08.760 being able to understand where other people are coming from, 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:10.960 even if it's not your own story or your own struggle. 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:13.320 I think you know, we'd all be a little better 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:15.920 off if more people were. And let me just say 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:19.080 this real quick. I don't know how much of an 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.360 impact this will have. I don't know what change we 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.760 will see coming from this, but I do believe that 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:27.880 a lot of people, and if you want to call 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:31.920 it ignorant, I mean a lot of people can't form. 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:35.440 There aren't opinions, they can't form, they can't come together 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:38.960 with having their own beliefs, and they go with what 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:43.200 they see online or people they look up to. So 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:47.640 I feel like there might be some people that are 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:51.480 fans of the Cowboys and they see what they did, 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:55.360 and maybe they change their views on things and now 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:58.560 they go with, Okay, well the Cowboys are supporting this, 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:03.000 let me support this. Or the guy I look up sorry, 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.600 the guy I look up to could be Jason Witten 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:09.120 or Sean Lee like you were talking about. Now they're 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:13.480 gonna go that route. So I feel like you might 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:17.440 have even if it's a little impact, it's still something 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.960 And I'm glad they did what they did. You know, 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:23.760 and I wrote this in my story last night. Then 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:26.959 they they what they did more than anything was they 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.439 they opened it up for everybody in their belief. If 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:32.919 you really want to kneel down, you get to kneel. 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:36.080 If you want to stand, you get to stand for 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.840 the national anthem. And if you're so upset with what's 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.680 going on, you're you're upset with the leadership of our country, 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.240 but you still respect the flag in a country enough 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.240 that you want to stand and do both. You got 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:48.920 to do both. You got to do both. You got 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:53.119 to do everything. Best Monday night game ever because it 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.880 gave him another day to figure out what they've done. 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:59.280 To think about that, thirty things happened, Thirty teams did 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.679 it one way, and they say, Okay, you have to 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:03.680 be number thirty one. You have to be thirty one. 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:05.639 You have to do something different than everyone else. And 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:07.360 they did it, and they did it better than anyone else. 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.560 And the fact that people didn't appreciate it, I think 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.280 they're just being shortsighted or stubborn or ignorant maybe. And 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.560 one of the things that kind of goes to that 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.800 is I think there is a there's a word that 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:23.040 I think is inherently important to democracy that has somehow 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:26.280 become a bad word. And at this point, people are 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:30.080 now not being reelected because they do it, and it's 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:32.960 called compromise. There is no way you're going to bring 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:36.359 groups of people with different backgrounds and different opinions together 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.640 to create one government and to be able to effectively 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:42.040 govern a people and make laws and those kinds of 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:46.000 things unless there is compromise. And somehow that's become a 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.879 dirty word. If you compromise, you're now giving in. There's 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:51.440 not enough people willing to sit and talk to people 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.520 with different opinions and listen and then be willing to 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:56.320 say I'm gonna give a little bit, You're gonna give 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:58.280 a little bit, and we're gonna find a middle ground here. 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:00.680 And it sounds like from what we heard in the 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:03.520 locker room, those fifty three men were able to do that. 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:06.359 They were able to sit and have discussions and at times, 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:08.480 from the way Jason went and talked about it, at 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.040 times it got heated. But the fact of the matter 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:13.640 is they were willing to listen to one another and 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.080 come to it an agreement on what they wanted to 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:19.000 do as a group, which is compromise. And that's the 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.479 part that's I think missing so much about you know, 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:23.760 what's happening right now just in our in our society, 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.359 in general and our fans that are listening that you know, 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:29.919 we're gonna talk about the game. But this was bigger 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:32.199 than the game. It was it was last night. It 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:34.440 was bigger than the game, and I think that's why 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:37.320 we spent the whole first segment talking about still will 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:40.479 be bigger. They will be, Yeah, absolutely, Hopefully going forward, 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:45.720 more attention is paid to the overall issue that's here, 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:49.040 and at some point we find some resolution and we 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.280 kind of get better as a society. That's why I'm hoping, 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:52.760 all right, let's take our first back. When we come back, 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:54.080 I do want to jump into the game. There's so 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:55.920 much to talk about here. Kat was going to win. 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:59.040 That's a big, big deal coming off last week's lost. 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:00.320 So let's do that when we come right. This is 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:04.120 Dallas Cowboys dot com Radio. People demand the best unlimited 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:06.440 wireless plan ever from AT ANDT. What else do you want? 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:08.600