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Speaker 1: how we've been marketing in it, and I've I've been

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Speaker 1: on the team that's like we should stop using Fauci,

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Speaker 1: because every time Fauci goes on TV to talk about vaccines,

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Speaker 1: more people are going to do like a backfire infact,

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Speaker 1: to be like, no, I'm not gonna get that. Don't

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Speaker 1: trust Fauci. So there's a particular like marketing thing that

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Speaker 1: I think we've failed on. Like America is very good

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Speaker 1: at marketing when we can make money, but when it's

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Speaker 1: not related to getting gaining more off it. I think

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Speaker 1: the government is very bad at marketing these types of things. Um.

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Speaker 1: And on the kind of the marketing side of things,

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Speaker 1: I don't know this is this is kind of old

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Speaker 1: news at this point. But the whole smoll in testicals

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Speaker 1: thing um, which we have you have not talked about

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Speaker 1: on this show about but I'm sure you have thoughts

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Speaker 1: about how this thing has kind of balloons, which is

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Speaker 1: that can be like so, how how the marketing and

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Speaker 1: misinformation relates to this cold kind kind of current problem. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: First of all, that particular story, I mean that's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like this, I've never I've never seen someone's

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Speaker 1: excuse for venereal disease becomes such an international issue. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: contribute to the test probably of hundreds of people, Um,

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Speaker 1: you know it's it's the marketing thing. Is a really

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Speaker 1: great question, and and it's been driving me crazy because

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Speaker 1: like part of me at this point just wants to

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Speaker 1: be like, get the fucking vacs. What the fund's wrong

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Speaker 1: with you? Get the vaccine part of my language and like, um,

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Speaker 1: but then the part of me knows that that doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: Like I do believe doctors should be able to express

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Speaker 1: their frustration. Um, they need to be able to do that.

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Speaker 1: If we can't do that right now, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: game over. They need to at least have that ability

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Speaker 1: where doctors can voice their frustration with antivactors but still

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Speaker 1: give them the same high level of care that we're

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Speaker 1: always going to give them the matter what when they

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Speaker 1: show up in the hospital. But if not working to

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Speaker 1: do that, we need other approaches. I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: entirely know what they are. There are some people they're

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Speaker 1: they're so far out there that we're just never going

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Speaker 1: to reach the people, the microchip people. There's like a

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Speaker 1: level of deep programming that will need to happen to

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Speaker 1: those people that we just it's it's too exhausting to

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Speaker 1: do that. You really have to, like, if you can't

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Speaker 1: scale that in any meaningful way for the country. I think,

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I don't know. I think calling it

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Speaker 1: the Trump vaccine was the closest we got to have

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Speaker 1: psibility and that fucking I'm interested in your thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the fucking bright part article and if you're not aware,

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Speaker 1: if you're less online than us, and God bless you

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Speaker 1: if you are right bart the which is I don't know.

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Speaker 1: CNN for Fascists came up with an article blaming the

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Speaker 1: Democrats for the fact that Republicans don't want to take

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Speaker 1: the vaccine and saying it's a secret liberal plot to

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Speaker 1: exterminate conservatives because conservatives refused to take vaccines because they're

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Speaker 1: fundamentally oppositional, defiant um and like it's it's the fault

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Speaker 1: of people who are telling them to take the vaccine

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Speaker 1: that they're not taking the vaccine because obviously, why would

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Speaker 1: you trust the liberal on anything, But also they're trying

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Speaker 1: to kill us and we're gonna lose the election because

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Speaker 1: we're all dying because we refuse to get vaccinated for

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Speaker 1: a preventable disease. Anyway, how do you feel about that, guy?

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't love it. I don't love it. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm vaguely familiar with bright Bart. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: exact article because I have enough pain in my life already.

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Speaker 1: But um, but you know, I do wonder it's like

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Speaker 1: when they put out articles like this or would Tucker

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Speaker 1: calls him, goes out and he does his thing questioning vaccine,

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Speaker 1: just asking questions about vaccines that lead to vaccine hesitancy,

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Speaker 1: Like what calculations are they doing? Are they doing calcular?

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Speaker 1: Is this just him being callous in not giving a

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Speaker 1: fun and just doing it, or is there some calculation

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Speaker 1: that him and some sort of right wing fink tank

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Speaker 1: are doing where they're like, hey, look this sells to

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Speaker 1: our audience. They love it, Let's keep doing it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we are going to lose ex portion of our audience

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Speaker 1: because of this, but we still have plenty of audience left. Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't I wonder how that's happening. Like it is hurting.

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Speaker 1: It is true, it is hurting them more than than

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Speaker 1: other people. It's hurting everyone. Everyone's getting affected by this. Um.

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Speaker 1: But there it's those states that are being affected, the

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Speaker 1: people not getting vaccinated who are listening to people like

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Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson. So I don't. I don't understand what their

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Speaker 1: endgame is here, like this is their market, why why

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Speaker 1: not protected? And that I do not have a good

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Speaker 1: answer for. I was hoping one of you guys would. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's there's a lot going on there. I

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Speaker 1: think a decent chunk of it is the assumption that

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Speaker 1: whatever they lose in terms of dead followers won't be

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Speaker 1: worth more than continuing the cash bonanza that is owning

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Speaker 1: the lips, right, because that's all they that's all that's

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Speaker 1: the entirety of the right wing media. It's just owning

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Speaker 1: the lips. It's just oppositional, defiant, it's just hating anything

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Speaker 1: democrats do. So you you kind of can't. You're a

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Speaker 1: cuck if you tell people to receive basic medical care

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Speaker 1: if democrats are taking that basic medical care right, Um,

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Speaker 1: so it's a pride thing for a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: To two things I love is when you when you

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Speaker 1: use the word cuck or when you do Ben Shapiro's voice,

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Speaker 1: Like those are like two of my favorite things that

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Speaker 1: you do. It's you're saying really well, far beyond anything

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Speaker 1: rational on the right. Um, and it's it's difficult to

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Speaker 1: like I I think the calculation is just like I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of these guys is the same thing

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Speaker 1: with climate change. Like they're smart enough to know that

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Speaker 1: they're contributing to an uninhabitable world, but they want to

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Speaker 1: cash in first. They want to get as much as

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Speaker 1: they can out before it falls apart. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's all any of these people care about, because I

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Speaker 1: think there are the true believers. The radio guys are

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Speaker 1: true believers, right, the radio guys who keep dying because

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Speaker 1: they don't be vaccinated. Those guys did believe that it

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Speaker 1: was some sort of weird conspiracy, it was the communist whatever,

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Speaker 1: um clearly because they did management level, mid management level.

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Speaker 1: They don't know all the stuff that they're being told

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Speaker 1: from above, and they kind of believe it enough to

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Speaker 1: where they kill themselves for the company. I think for Tucker,

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Speaker 1: it's more a matter of like, hey, I keep making

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Speaker 1: money and I maintain my power if I if I

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Speaker 1: continue to hold this line, you you lose power, you

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Speaker 1: get weaker. It's like when Trump got booed for people

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Speaker 1: to take the vaccine. You know, yeah, yeah, um yeah crazy.

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Speaker 1: You can't go back with this ship. You just can't,

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Speaker 1: and you certainly can't admit to ever having been wrong. Right, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: it's good ship. What a what a fun note to

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Speaker 1: end of the episode on what a good society we've built.

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Speaker 1: big fat pile of cocaine. And the good thing about

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Speaker 1: cocaine is it's a sterilizing agent. So if you're worried

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Speaker 1: about COVID getting in your nasal passages, just rail cocaine

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Speaker 1: like getting a COVID test, but more fun. Legally, I

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Speaker 1: have to tell you that's false. Well, we all have

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